So, fun fact. Blue Corundum's name comes from the mineral Corundum, which is the second hardest mineral known, and is the mineral that both sapphires and rubies are made from.
This is a year later but that’s really cool. Not only does it show the strength of the dragon but it kinda combines it with the Ruby Dragon (patron of the gem dragons)
The 'no-name' versions of those spells are the free versions available through the OGL that all people on DnD Beyond get access to for free. If you buy the right book you get the IP protected version of the spell with the name as well. Many of the names can be traced back to Greyhawk and Gygax's early games and where actually made by his players at the time.
Named spells are based on Tales of the Dying Earth's spells too But yea Rary the Traitor, Tenser, Bigby, Mordenkainen , Tasha Most named spells are Greyhawk's and not Forgotten realms I love Named spells cause , of course a wizard would name their spells, if im playing wizard i want to make spells that future players of that world can find, already named spells tell me that is a thing you can do in the world
I love the idea of some ancient enemy re-emerging, and the party has to visit a sapphire dragon because they have the history and knowledge of what weapons and tactics were used against them in ancient times by forgotten and fallen civilizations. I get a very Mass Effect, Crucible vibe from it.
Imagine you're in a party, you're in a cavern. There is an alter with the remains of a legendary warrior laid to rest on top of it, their sword clasped across their chest and a huge sapphire stalactite above it. One of your party gets greedy and goes to take it after checking for traps. As they go to take the sword the sapphire stalactite unfurls its self revealing a Sapphire Dragon clinging to the ceiling, glaring at fool who dares intrude upon this sacred ground!
YES! i just got the the point in my homebrew campaign where i introduce the Dragon, the forest has been riddled with giant spiders lured to the dragons cave, they sealed off the cave with a barrier but are scared to go inside, now unfortunately they are fighting a mind flayer underground im going the have the dragon burrow through the roof of the cavern and say he just wants quiet and is tired of all these voices in his mind (psionic correlation) im excited so good timing thanks for the info. i read fizbans and saw the dragon and psionic correlation. that was the first turning point encounter i wrote for the campaign ^.^ next, elder brain seeks revenge? who knows.
"Rary is probably a Forgotten Realms character" "Yes, definitely" No, not definitely. Like most of the early D&D characters who have spells named after them, Rary is a Greyhawk character. Ruler of the Bright Lands, and he betrayed the Circle of 8
I think gem dragons might be my new favorite kind of dragons. I’ve always liked Psionics, so the fact that there’s dragons who specialize in it and also look cool as hell is awesome.
I have always been a fan of sapphire dragons! I would have liked to see obsidian dragons, but the gem dragon lore has been fantastic. Also, I may run sorcerer but I’m naming all my spells. Also the gods can die from being forgotten, naming spells and passing them on just seems like the right thing to do…but I also praise Mystra
It's been to long since I commented regularly. I have to show up for the long awaited gem dragons though. One thing I immediately thought of in regards to the whole eating spiders thing. Do they like the taste of ettercaps? I would imagine so. I mean they're quite literally spider people and they share similar territory both being in the under dark and all. Sapphires don't seem like the friendliest sort by a long shot, but if they want to clear out some creepy crawlies by all means let them do it. I hate spiders.
The Dungeoncast Ah, I've been listening to old episodes based on my campaign's needs. This is the first time I've caught an episode recently after it was posted. Alliteration makes everything better!
I agree the names attached to the spells are weird but if we get rid of them now we are going to have spells like “Hand” and “Sword” which rock I love that but it might get confusing. /j XD
My players in my game have allied with a sapphire dragon by asking its help in succeeding in a coup in a pirate nation, the dragon took all military books as prize and declared himself the new leader and has an army of giant spider being ridden by kobolds.
As others have pointed out, the name question is because the traditional spell that goes back multiple versions of the game is attached to not just a character from Greyhawk (not FR - that was invented later by Ed Greenwood and others) but specifically a wizard (typically) played by one of Gygax's original players or even Gygax's own character. The Greyhawk Circle of 8 were Gygax's wizard players' characters, and these are where we get most of the names and they date back to original and even pre-release DnD. For example, I saw an interview with Luke Gygax where he talked about how he needed a spell to keep damaging a spellcaster to try to break their concentration while he's busy with the people in front of him. Thus we have Melf's Acid Arrow since Luke was Melf. And of course a (self-declared) all-powerful wizard is going to egotistically name their spells after themselves. These got passed down both as tradition and as official names. It's a way to honor the great designers of the past by letting their characters continue to live in the game they invented. It also serves to, by default, give your world a depth. Fireball and magic missile and shield are spells that go back to a time when magic was just coming to the foreground and possibly wasn't even being written down yet so even if the names were associated originally they have been lost. But these spells are from near-contemporary history. Your characters can go to a library and read about the plane-hopping adventures of Otiluke and Mordenkainen and discover why exactly they would have invented these spells. I love you guys and you have great discussions and great chemistry when talking about current rules and so forth, but you really need to dig deeper into the meta-lore of DnD as a game. A lot of times when you ask questions like this you end up showing vast ignorance and can make people mad about something that they should be, in my opinion, grateful for. The non-named versions of spells (e.g. telepathic bond) are the open-source versions that can be used in 3rd party materials (e.g. Kobold Press, Green Ronin, etc.) without licensing issues. In other words, the names "Rary" and "Otiluke" and "Melf" are copyrighted (trademarked?) by WotC, but there's no reason these spells shouldn't be usable by others (being generally "generic" spells) so they strip the complication from it and publish the unnamed version in the SRD.
In chess white always goes first. Pro chess games use a scoring system to offset this advantage. Most people like to choose black, because they don't know which openings are traps, like the one leading to the Scholar's Mate: th-cam.com/video/jrUalgPaiPQ/w-d-xo.html
So, fun fact. Blue Corundum's name comes from the mineral Corundum, which is the second hardest mineral known, and is the mineral that both sapphires and rubies are made from.
Ccooool
This is a year later but that’s really cool. Not only does it show the strength of the dragon but it kinda combines it with the Ruby Dragon (patron of the gem dragons)
The 'no-name' versions of those spells are the free versions available through the OGL that all people on DnD Beyond get access to for free. If you buy the right book you get the IP protected version of the spell with the name as well.
Many of the names can be traced back to Greyhawk and Gygax's early games and where actually made by his players at the time.
Named spells are based on Tales of the Dying Earth's spells too
But yea Rary the Traitor, Tenser, Bigby, Mordenkainen , Tasha Most named spells are Greyhawk's and not Forgotten realms
I love Named spells cause , of course a wizard would name their spells, if im playing wizard i want to make spells that future players of that world can find, already named spells tell me that is a thing you can do in the world
I came here to say exactly this.
I love the idea of some ancient enemy re-emerging, and the party has to visit a sapphire dragon because they have the history and knowledge of what weapons and tactics were used against them in ancient times by forgotten and fallen civilizations. I get a very Mass Effect, Crucible vibe from it.
Bro, I never realized just how RIPPED Will is until he put is arms on the table
lol
Imagine you're in a party, you're in a cavern.
There is an alter with the remains of a legendary warrior laid to rest on top of it, their sword clasped across their chest and a huge sapphire stalactite above it.
One of your party gets greedy and goes to take it after checking for traps. As they go to take the sword the sapphire stalactite unfurls its self revealing a Sapphire Dragon clinging to the ceiling, glaring at fool who dares intrude upon this sacred ground!
This is so perfectly timed! My players are meeting one of these in our upcoming session!
yesss YUSSSS MORE DRAGON ah *ahem* mmm... Thanks for the episode guys :D
YES! i just got the the point in my homebrew campaign where i introduce the Dragon, the forest has been riddled with giant spiders lured to the dragons cave, they sealed off the cave with a barrier but are scared to go inside, now unfortunately they are fighting a mind flayer underground im going the have the dragon burrow through the roof of the cavern and say he just wants quiet and is tired of all these voices in his mind (psionic correlation) im excited so good timing thanks for the info. i read fizbans and saw the dragon and psionic correlation. that was the first turning point encounter i wrote for the campaign ^.^ next, elder brain seeks revenge? who knows.
"Rary is probably a Forgotten Realms character"
"Yes, definitely"
No, not definitely. Like most of the early D&D characters who have spells named after them, Rary is a Greyhawk character. Ruler of the Bright Lands, and he betrayed the Circle of 8
I think gem dragons might be my new favorite kind of dragons. I’ve always liked Psionics, so the fact that there’s dragons who specialize in it and also look cool as hell is awesome.
A wonderful episode as always!
Time!
36 seconds until Brian said Fizban like a carnival barker
I have always been a fan of sapphire dragons! I would have liked to see obsidian dragons, but the gem dragon lore has been fantastic. Also, I may run sorcerer but I’m naming all my spells. Also the gods can die from being forgotten, naming spells and passing them on just seems like the right thing to do…but I also praise Mystra
Boi I can’t wait till deep dragons!!! I love those weird things!!!
"Are Dragons people?"
"Everything's people."
XD
This thing is darn near a xenomorph
In chess white is preferred because they have the first move which is generally considered an advantage.
It's been to long since I commented regularly. I have to show up for the long awaited gem dragons though.
One thing I immediately thought of in regards to the whole eating spiders thing. Do they like the taste of ettercaps? I would imagine so. I mean they're quite literally spider people and they share similar territory both being in the under dark and all. Sapphires don't seem like the friendliest sort by a long shot, but if they want to clear out some creepy crawlies by all means let them do it.
I hate spiders.
I love the named spells. It adds history to your world without you doing any work and 99% of the time pcs won't ask about it
Fizban!!!
THESE DUDES HAVE T-SHIRTS IN PURPLE. OH YEAH! It's the good purple to! I like violet...
Love you guys
Wly2
Cyanic instead of Psionic because they are blue.
Lol
Rary is Greyhawk
"Stone Go Crazy" gives me JoJo vibes
What? No more alliteration openings?? I REVOLT! I RAGE! I SAY NO!
You’re the first person to say anything about it and we haven’t been doing them for a while
The Dungeoncast Ah, I've been listening to old episodes based on my campaign's needs. This is the first time I've caught an episode recently after it was posted. Alliteration makes everything better!
Hold monster can affects PCs, Hold Monster says "Target a Creature" it has no limit on creature type
Anymore superquest sagas planned
Yes I’m editing one as I type this
I agree the names attached to the spells are weird but if we get rid of them now we are going to have spells like “Hand” and “Sword” which rock I love that but it might get confusing. /j
XD
My players in my game have allied with a sapphire dragon by asking its help in succeeding in a coup in a pirate nation, the dragon took all military books as prize and declared himself the new leader and has an army of giant spider being ridden by kobolds.
I think I fought that guy in dark souls
Didn't appreciate the hate on myconids. They're funguyz.
As others have pointed out, the name question is because the traditional spell that goes back multiple versions of the game is attached to not just a character from Greyhawk (not FR - that was invented later by Ed Greenwood and others) but specifically a wizard (typically) played by one of Gygax's original players or even Gygax's own character. The Greyhawk Circle of 8 were Gygax's wizard players' characters, and these are where we get most of the names and they date back to original and even pre-release DnD. For example, I saw an interview with Luke Gygax where he talked about how he needed a spell to keep damaging a spellcaster to try to break their concentration while he's busy with the people in front of him. Thus we have Melf's Acid Arrow since Luke was Melf. And of course a (self-declared) all-powerful wizard is going to egotistically name their spells after themselves. These got passed down both as tradition and as official names. It's a way to honor the great designers of the past by letting their characters continue to live in the game they invented.
It also serves to, by default, give your world a depth. Fireball and magic missile and shield are spells that go back to a time when magic was just coming to the foreground and possibly wasn't even being written down yet so even if the names were associated originally they have been lost. But these spells are from near-contemporary history. Your characters can go to a library and read about the plane-hopping adventures of Otiluke and Mordenkainen and discover why exactly they would have invented these spells.
I love you guys and you have great discussions and great chemistry when talking about current rules and so forth, but you really need to dig deeper into the meta-lore of DnD as a game. A lot of times when you ask questions like this you end up showing vast ignorance and can make people mad about something that they should be, in my opinion, grateful for.
The non-named versions of spells (e.g. telepathic bond) are the open-source versions that can be used in 3rd party materials (e.g. Kobold Press, Green Ronin, etc.) without licensing issues. In other words, the names "Rary" and "Otiluke" and "Melf" are copyrighted (trademarked?) by WotC, but there's no reason these spells shouldn't be usable by others (being generally "generic" spells) so they strip the complication from it and publish the unnamed version in the SRD.
DD
In chess white always goes first. Pro chess games use a scoring system to offset this advantage. Most people like to choose black, because they don't know which openings are traps, like the one leading to the Scholar's Mate: th-cam.com/video/jrUalgPaiPQ/w-d-xo.html