A level 17 character could true polymorph himself into a gold dragon permanently. And still be able to polymorph back into their previous form. This is my endgame
The reason the Gold Dragon doesn't take care of the Party's problems can be as simple as he been busy taking care of some awful world-ending level kind of shit in the background. Edit. Really enjoyed all of the Dragon episodes. Can't wait for whatever you guys have next in store.
I’m thrilled to know there will be more dragon episodes in the new year... I am excited to see what information y'all dig up on the 12 ferrous dragons species since I haven’t been able to find any details on about half of them. And then... gem dragons!
One of the Gold Dragon enter chat:Jonny I think who you work for where you are from and once I join you and get all information on evil then I will take you and your friend out at once
I have liked and commented! I continue to serve the beloved dungeoncast just as the year of the Dragon...oh wait, it's not continuing. this is a sad occasion for a great year ends. but no! I shant let grief overcome my heart! instead of mourning this loss I shall do as the dragons do when they celebrate the life of a passed Dragon and be exceedingly glad that this happened. I shall remain positive! and hey we'll still have the gems and miscellaneous dragon's to look forward to! thank you will and Brian for bringing us a fantastic series. I may have been late to this episode but I loved it nonetheless. now let's take a short rest shall we? hey everybody! it's paladin Dorian here once more to spread to word. the word of love! yes indeed, just remember when you face immeasurable darkness and innumerable threats while the weight of the world barrels down upon you, that my heart shall shine with the resplendense of a gold dragons scales and be with you always. now enough mushy stuff, this short rest ends. :) yeah personally while I like their current design I grew up reading my fathers dnd monster manual which depicted golds as serpentine bodied. so that's just how I picture them. also if I may make a suggestion, after superquest saga ends and if you look for a new campaign. what about homebrewing a campaign or one shot where you play as dragons? maybe brian could dm even so will could play as the ever glorious blue Dragon and act as long range artillery! have a good day all of you!
Thanks for telling me what drove the Darkaxe Hobgoblins south out of Old Hob's Wood and into the Grenkin Forest where they have been in a stalemate with the Lockjaw Orc Clans for the last 250 years. I was wondering why it's been quiet the the Rhin Valley Freeholds for so long.
Excerpt from my home game, involving a gold dragon who has gone insane: "Victem or traitor, however you choose to remember me, it matters not. For I am Chronaus the Golden One. And even here, without the shine of my crystals, I am the last; and most Beautiful Dragon."
The term "Wyrm" is old English for "Serpent" and was used to describe some Dragons because historically Dragons have been portrayed as Giant Serpents. Also in previous editions of D&D there were more stages of a Dragons life and the oldest of Dragons were called Wyrms and Great Wyrms.
No wyrm comes from worm, which comes from OLD NORSE word orm, which meant serpent, and historically, the word dragon, spelled with the letters D-R-A-G-O-N, was first used by old french to mean a serpentine lizard creature with wings and a breath weapon of sorts, and used it's tail to squeeze things to death. It was later when Christianity became prominent in england, and the fact the drew some words from old French, that ALL serpentine creatures, pagans, and such became the word dragon, because Christians had very little respect for alot things outside their religion, and as such, the word wyrm became synonymous with the word dragon, which lead to d&d using the word to describe dragon, and other cultures using wyrm and dragon inner exchangeable. Also, seen some editions call certain dragon in d&d stories, great wythla, just fyi. Can't remember where though.
finally someone mentions the old categorizations. I've been wondering for a long time now if it was just changed or something because personally I like great wyrm more than ancient.
@@DragonGunzDorian I think it should have been kept as the classification above ancient. Egg=> Wyrmling=> Young=> Adult=> Elder=> Ancient=> Great Wyrm=> Twilight=> Death
@@zionthedragon8866 the word Dragon comes from the ancient greek Drakon and the ancient greeks were pagan, then it evolved into the Latin word Dracon, still pagan until Emperor Constantine. Then it evolved into Dragon in old French then later into English. So it has less to do with christianity and more to do with the evolution of language through conquest, which is one of the most common ways it evolves. History is written by the victors, no culture respects the culture of those who it has conquered no culture came into existence without snuffing out another.
I actually did some math on Gold Dragons, an Ancient Gold Dragon using the variant innate spell casting is capable of casting 9 8th level spell innately so a Gold Dragon can fuck you up, I'd argue that the Gold Dragon has the capacity to be the Strongest Monster in all of 5e.
Just imagine giving Tiamat innate spell casting! That's what I'm going to throw at my party of goddamn eight people with two clerics someday. (they're at 8 level now)
I read somewhere there's a red dragon called inferno that can cast something in the ballpark of 7 9th level spells, and has access to 10th, 11th, 12 and 1 13th level spell slot, which he can use to hasten 7-9th level spell casting - on top of being able to cast any 6th level or below spell as a bonus action
One extremely passive way to defeat a villain is if the gold dragon banishes someone to the dreamrealm, the realm could act as a rehabilitation event. Like, make the villain live a good life, make them think they've lived an entirely different life and truly change their outlook on life. For fun maybe gold dragons could even train sages in the same way. You could live multiple lives if the dragon wishes it.
One of the Gold Dragon enter chat:Jonny I think who you work for where you are from and once I join you and get all information on evil then I will take you and your friend out at once
Random idea for a hilarious battle soapbox Johnny was just a red dragon who figured out how to polymorph making argument for chaos and the golden dragon and then got on his soapbox and debated him lost became a gold dragon to end the shenanigans then soapbox Johnny reveals he’s a red dragon and the party is confused as fuck by two ancient dragons and fighting in the middle of the square causing so much collateral damage At the end of that encounter I want everyone to think well that escalated quickly.
Fuckn DRAGONS!!! Will we see a gem dragon episode? I know we have no info currently in 5e on them, but even the lore from past editions would be awesome.
Forget that, what about SARDIOR? Tiamat and bahamut got their own vids BEFORE their alignment dragons were shown, so he should get one too before gem dragons get theirs....
Okay, so there are a lot of creatures that seem to be innately alignment locked. Is it possible for them to change that? Could a Red Dragon be good and a Gold evil? Somethings make sense; for instance, becoming a Lich is a fairly vile process and it makes sense that it would be pretty much exclusively evil or at least neutral characters that become one, but a baby dragon would be relatively blank slate save instinct.
Late but just to answer this… Baby dragons aren’t inherently blank slates. They’re born knowing who they are, who their parents are, and what they are. Even if they’ve never seen their parents before and we’re literally just born a few hours ago. Instinct is also a thing of course. But dragons are capable of changing alignment through careful or harmful teachings. It’s difficult, but can be done. A Gold dragon for example could be swayed into an evil mindset if you give it the idea that everything not them is evil, and a Red dragon could be swayed into a good mindset if you teach them the benefits of doing good deeds (money and praise that’s bestowed willingly.) They’re intelligent creatures who use their instincts and parental memories as a way to quickly adapt and grow into what they were meant to become. Give them these new conflicting ideas with proper reasonings to back them up, and you’ll probably be able to convince a wyrmling into following a different path.
@@yarmch3686 Now I want to see a story of a "Good" (filled with semi-enlightened self interest) Red Dragin having to hunt down and kill a Gold Dragon that's gone down the "burn everything because the whole world is corrupt and evil" "Good" route. I can just see the arrogant Red Dragon that has learned the benefits of having a stable and happy kingdom under its rule going out to proactively kill a rampaging Gold Dragon before it can slaughter it's people, winning through malicious cunning and a greater knowledge of how to be effectively Evil.
Hey guys. Great job!!! I am just going to guess i have been playing D&D for longer than the two of you have been alive. I got the white box for my 12th B-day. You guys are funny and fun to listen to. Keep it going.
Nice Englican accents there at the start lads, but pull tha uvva one your takin tha Mick right? Like the episode by the way and as an Englishman I appreciate the attempt at the accent!
Whats the next years theme? i heard Fae a few times but is their enough fae of similar interest as dragons? because i dont really see 12, hour long fae videos on a single creature as viable. fae and celestials are really lacking in comparison.
@@DragonGunzDorian well, I hope they do sardior BEFORE they talk about them, just how the other dragon gods got their own vid before their dragon creations got a vid of their own.
@@DragonGunzDorian yes, just like bahamut created metallics and tiamat chromatics. Those 3 gods, and three groups were the original trio of main iconic groups of dragons. But gems fell out of practice and as such, became the obscure ones they are now. The original ones across both the magazine and offical hand books for 1e, minus sardior, were just sapphire and crystal (as in quartz crystal). Jade and emerald were related, and others had different doppelgangers that did their role, but the sapphire, crystal, and "ruby" (aka sardior) stay consistent throughout.
@@zionthedragon8866 He did say all dragons. But to be fair there are dozens of obscure dragons that you wouldn't know of if you didn't play earlier editions.
@@xreaperxiii yeah, well, alot of those obscure dragons are seen as add-ons, or seen as extra or in essence non cannon, and seeing as those dragons were later added on, it's easy for some people to regard them as non cannon. I mean, there is a certain point were becomes like, for example, a bad pokemon game like sun & moon and onwards, with literally them throwing everything they can think off out of their butts just to make something cool, but replace the pokemon series with d&d, and the pokemon with dragons, and you got yourself the problem. I believe, unless further stated, that they are referring to the main basic, generic template well known dragons of d&d that exist in ALL editions, so no matter what edition, there is some consistency. Also, from what I know, prismatic is a unofficial dragon template, just like shadow, in which a dragon was altered by the planar powers. So not a "naturally" occurring dragon. So for all tense and purpose, they claim GOLD is the strongest in magic.
@@zionthedragon8866 The prismatic dragons, like the force dragons, were not a template. The were part of the "epic" dragon category because they were so far beyond chromatic and metallic dragons in strength and magic. They aren't altered or changed forms of lesser dragons, they are simply another more powerful category of dragon.
"The paladins of dragon kind.."
Me: Gasps in horror thinking of the damage of multi attack dragon claws with Smite...
Awesome episode guys
A level 17 character could true polymorph himself into a gold dragon permanently. And still be able to polymorph back into their previous form. This is my endgame
I hate working sundays, dudes. Ready to go home and pack one and watch this. Golden Bois are my favorite of the dragons
Much love
This was a sad episode, the best year is finally over... at least the year was ended with such a bad ass dragon!!
The reason the Gold Dragon doesn't take care of the Party's problems can be as simple as he been busy taking care of some awful world-ending level kind of shit in the background.
Edit. Really enjoyed all of the Dragon episodes. Can't wait for whatever you guys have next in store.
Catfish wizard and soapbox Johnny fan art. I’m on it.
WOW Hero forged sponsore? That is awsome!
I’m thrilled to know there will be more dragon episodes in the new year... I am excited to see what information y'all dig up on the 12 ferrous dragons species since I haven’t been able to find any details on about half of them. And then... gem dragons!
Soapbox Johnny really hates Kirkwall
Soapbox Johnny was just a guy who really hates Dragon Age 2
One of the Gold Dragon enter chat:Jonny I think who you work for
where you are from and
once I join you and get all information on evil
then I will take you and your friend out at once
I almost chocked on that get off my lawn part.
I love putting on your Mythos and listening while I'm making my miniatures.
I have liked and commented! I continue to serve the beloved dungeoncast just as the year of the Dragon...oh wait, it's not continuing. this is a sad occasion for a great year ends. but no! I shant let grief overcome my heart! instead of mourning this loss I shall do as the dragons do when they celebrate the life of a passed Dragon and be exceedingly glad that this happened. I shall remain positive! and hey we'll still have the gems and miscellaneous dragon's to look forward to!
thank you will and Brian for bringing us a fantastic series. I may have been late to this episode but I loved it nonetheless. now let's take a short rest shall we?
hey everybody! it's paladin Dorian here once more to spread to word. the word of love!
yes indeed, just remember when you face immeasurable darkness and innumerable threats while the weight of the world barrels down upon you, that my heart shall shine with the resplendense of a gold dragons scales and be with you always. now enough mushy stuff, this short rest ends. :)
yeah personally while I like their current design I grew up reading my fathers dnd monster manual which depicted golds as serpentine bodied. so that's just how I picture them.
also if I may make a suggestion, after superquest saga ends and if you look for a new campaign. what about homebrewing a campaign or one shot where you play as dragons? maybe brian could dm even so will could play as the ever glorious blue Dragon and act as long range artillery!
have a good day all of you!
Please make March on Kirkwald shirts. I want one so bad. With soapbox Johnny on the back.
Thank you for your work.
Thanks for telling me what drove the Darkaxe Hobgoblins south out of Old Hob's Wood and into the Grenkin Forest where they have been in a stalemate with the Lockjaw Orc Clans for the last 250 years.
I was wondering why it's been quiet the the Rhin Valley Freeholds for so long.
Excerpt from my home game, involving a gold dragon who has gone insane:
"Victem or traitor, however you choose to remember me, it matters not. For I am Chronaus the Golden One. And even here, without the shine of my crystals, I am the last; and most Beautiful Dragon."
“The doody’s of Gold Dragons are often light”
Huh.
The term "Wyrm" is old English for "Serpent" and was used to describe some Dragons because historically Dragons have been portrayed as Giant Serpents. Also in previous editions of D&D there were more stages of a Dragons life and the oldest of Dragons were called Wyrms and Great Wyrms.
And newly hatched dragons are called wyrmlings.
No wyrm comes from worm, which comes from OLD NORSE word orm, which meant serpent, and historically, the word dragon, spelled with the letters D-R-A-G-O-N, was first used by old french to mean a serpentine lizard creature with wings and a breath weapon of sorts, and used it's tail to squeeze things to death. It was later when Christianity became prominent in england, and the fact the drew some words from old French, that ALL serpentine creatures, pagans, and such became the word dragon, because Christians had very little respect for alot things outside their religion, and as such, the word wyrm became synonymous with the word dragon, which lead to d&d using the word to describe dragon, and other cultures using wyrm and dragon inner exchangeable.
Also, seen some editions call certain dragon in d&d stories, great wythla, just fyi. Can't remember where though.
finally someone mentions the old categorizations. I've been wondering for a long time now if it was just changed or something because personally I like great wyrm more than ancient.
@@DragonGunzDorian I think it should have been kept as the classification above ancient. Egg=> Wyrmling=> Young=> Adult=> Elder=> Ancient=> Great Wyrm=> Twilight=> Death
@@zionthedragon8866 the word Dragon comes from the ancient greek Drakon
and the ancient greeks were pagan, then it evolved into the Latin word Dracon, still pagan until Emperor Constantine. Then it evolved into Dragon in old French then later into English. So it has less to do with christianity and more to do with the evolution of language through conquest, which is one of the most common ways it evolves. History is written by the victors, no culture respects the culture of those who it has conquered no culture came into existence without snuffing out another.
Oh I have been waiting for this episode. Can't wait to watch y'all.
Loved the Soap Box Johnny bit haha! Liked and subscribed.
Soapbox Johnny- Best ad lib of all time?
These moments are why i watch.
Gold Dragon just eats Soapbox Johnny and says "No! None of that! Shame on you."
The most expensive dragon if all
Of XD
Mercury Dragon or Lunar Dragon
@@charlottewalnut3118.....yes
I know that you know that I know that you know that I'm coming. Lol
I would love to see 2 dragons polymorphed into humans having a slapfight. Lmao
Farewell year of the dragon.
19:53. Break Ends
Shoutout to my boy, Three Jackdaws!
I actually did some math on Gold Dragons, an Ancient Gold Dragon using the variant innate spell casting is capable of casting 9 8th level spell innately so a Gold Dragon can fuck you up, I'd argue that the Gold Dragon has the capacity to be the Strongest Monster in all of 5e.
Just imagine giving Tiamat innate spell casting! That's what I'm going to throw at my party of goddamn eight people with two clerics someday. (they're at 8 level now)
I read somewhere there's a red dragon called inferno that can cast something in the ballpark of 7 9th level spells, and has access to 10th, 11th, 12 and 1 13th level spell slot, which he can use to hasten 7-9th level spell casting - on top of being able to cast any 6th level or below spell as a bonus action
In Shadowrun dragons can easily transform into humans and have fist fights with each other! Or if not then with guns! :)
The last two minutes before the long rest were the best content! Bummer it wasn't longer.
One extremely passive way to defeat a villain is if the gold dragon banishes someone to the dreamrealm, the realm could act as a rehabilitation event. Like, make the villain live a good life, make them think they've lived an entirely different life and truly change their outlook on life. For fun maybe gold dragons could even train sages in the same way. You could live multiple lives if the dragon wishes it.
Sword in the Stone movie 4:50 merlin transform in the fish
5:00 were you thinking of the pokemon Whiscash by chance?
"Googles catfish wizard"
I did, the closest thing I could find was a magikarp with a wizard hat.
From southpark?
Carp that can grow powerul enough to climb a waterfall may even become a dragon. Goldfish.
It's South Park
Catatafish from south park
One of the Gold Dragon enter chat:Jonny I think who you work for
where you are from and
once I join you and get all information on evil
then I will take you and your friend out at once
New d&d campaign name, the seige of kirkwall
Random idea for a hilarious battle soapbox Johnny was just a red dragon who figured out how to polymorph making argument for chaos and the golden dragon and then got on his soapbox and debated him lost became a gold dragon to end the shenanigans then soapbox Johnny reveals he’s a red dragon and the party is confused as fuck by two ancient dragons and fighting in the middle of the square causing so much collateral damage At the end of that encounter I want everyone to think well that escalated quickly.
If you really like the idea of wingless dragons Bryan, maybe take a look at the Linnorm dragons from older editions ;)
Soapbox Johnny 🤣😂
"Can I just tell you how disappointed in you I am?"
Brass dragons have the same wings as the gold
My bois
I've used gooog gold dragons for my campaign
GUYS I STATTED OUT THE THICCETS, THEY'RE IN YOUR DISCORD
"Now I know how safran smells!"
Carry me to Kirkwall!! -Last Battle Cry of Soapbox Johny
Fuckn DRAGONS!!! Will we see a gem dragon episode? I know we have no info currently in 5e on them, but even the lore from past editions would be awesome.
Forget that, what about SARDIOR? Tiamat and bahamut got their own vids BEFORE their alignment dragons were shown, so he should get one too before gem dragons get theirs....
Will has replied to one of my comments in the past saying they will do the gems at some point.
You're thinking of South Park for the catfish wizard
Remembered when Kurenai try to use genjutsu against Itachi 🤣
Itachi was like am I a joke to you?
Okay, so there are a lot of creatures that seem to be innately alignment locked. Is it possible for them to change that? Could a Red Dragon be good and a Gold evil? Somethings make sense; for instance, becoming a Lich is a fairly vile process and it makes sense that it would be pretty much exclusively evil or at least neutral characters that become one, but a baby dragon would be relatively blank slate save instinct.
Late but just to answer this…
Baby dragons aren’t inherently blank slates. They’re born knowing who they are, who their parents are, and what they are. Even if they’ve never seen their parents before and we’re literally just born a few hours ago. Instinct is also a thing of course.
But dragons are capable of changing alignment through careful or harmful teachings. It’s difficult, but can be done. A Gold dragon for example could be swayed into an evil mindset if you give it the idea that everything not them is evil, and a Red dragon could be swayed into a good mindset if you teach them the benefits of doing good deeds (money and praise that’s bestowed willingly.)
They’re intelligent creatures who use their instincts and parental memories as a way to quickly adapt and grow into what they were meant to become. Give them these new conflicting ideas with proper reasonings to back them up, and you’ll probably be able to convince a wyrmling into following a different path.
@@yarmch3686 Now I want to see a story of a "Good" (filled with semi-enlightened self interest) Red Dragin having to hunt down and kill a Gold Dragon that's gone down the "burn everything because the whole world is corrupt and evil" "Good" route. I can just see the arrogant Red Dragon that has learned the benefits of having a stable and happy kingdom under its rule going out to proactively kill a rampaging Gold Dragon before it can slaughter it's people, winning through malicious cunning and a greater knowledge of how to be effectively Evil.
disney feature sword in the stone has merlin as a fish...probaby a catfish? he has whiskers...
the comicpop shout out
I'm looking forward to shadow dragon episode
D&D - Orkney Edition
Hey guys. Great job!!! I am just going to guess i have been playing D&D for longer than the two of you have been alive. I got the white box for my 12th B-day. You guys are funny and fun to listen to. Keep it going.
Nice Englican accents there at the start lads, but pull tha uvva one your takin tha Mick right?
Like the episode by the way and as an Englishman I appreciate the attempt at the accent!
Is the Kirkwall mention a dragon age reference 👀
I bet you’re thinking of Catatafish from South Park Brian.
What energy drink were you drinking this episode Will? :D
Rockstar Lemonade
Good old golden sáragy dragon.
Is the catfish wizard Merlin from sword in the stone? (Hes not a catfish but he has a beard?)
Were you thinking of "Catatafish" from South Park?
Hey have you guys ever made any content on the Carrion crawler?
It was prob South Park's Catatafish
Are you thinking of the great wize wizard (catfish wizard) from the terrible movie "your Highness"?
I'm watching you Soap Box Johny
Is Battle Royal part of super quest saga?
Whats the next years theme? i heard Fae a few times but is their enough fae of similar interest as dragons? because i dont really see 12, hour long fae videos on a single creature as viable. fae and celestials are really lacking in comparison.
Why does the dragon year have to end? Can we atleast have some of the gem dragons?
Will has told me before when I asked months ago they will do the gems. don't worry friend it'll happen eventually.
@@DragonGunzDorian well, I hope they do sardior BEFORE they talk about them, just how the other dragon gods got their own vid before their dragon creations got a vid of their own.
Zion The Dragon I've never heard of sardior before. I assume he's the god that created the gems then?
@@DragonGunzDorian yes, just like bahamut created metallics and tiamat chromatics. Those 3 gods, and three groups were the original trio of main iconic groups of dragons. But gems fell out of practice and as such, became the obscure ones they are now.
The original ones across both the magazine and offical hand books for 1e, minus sardior, were just sapphire and crystal (as in quartz crystal). Jade and emerald were related, and others had different doppelgangers that did their role, but the sapphire, crystal, and "ruby" (aka sardior) stay consistent throughout.
So no steel dragon?
has anyone ever been genjutsued by a gold dragon?
Allen Scott
Loved the Episode, tho the latest episode of Rick and Morty did leave a stain for me with dragons, cause they were basically dnd dragons
Strongest of all dragons....
Prismatic dragon: *laughs in CR 60+*
Of the main ones, I believe they mean.
@@zionthedragon8866 He did say all dragons. But to be fair there are dozens of obscure dragons that you wouldn't know of if you didn't play earlier editions.
@@xreaperxiii yeah, well, alot of those obscure dragons are seen as add-ons, or seen as extra or in essence non cannon, and seeing as those dragons were later added on, it's easy for some people to regard them as non cannon.
I mean, there is a certain point were becomes like, for example, a bad pokemon game like sun & moon and onwards, with literally them throwing everything they can think off out of their butts just to make something cool, but replace the pokemon series with d&d, and the pokemon with dragons, and you got yourself the problem.
I believe, unless further stated, that they are referring to the main basic, generic template well known dragons of d&d that exist in ALL editions, so no matter what edition, there is some consistency.
Also, from what I know, prismatic is a unofficial dragon template, just like shadow, in which a dragon was altered by the planar powers. So not a "naturally" occurring dragon. So for all tense and purpose, they claim GOLD is the strongest in magic.
@@zionthedragon8866 The prismatic dragons, like the force dragons, were not a template. The were part of the "epic" dragon category because they were so far beyond chromatic and metallic dragons in strength and magic. They aren't altered or changed forms of lesser dragons, they are simply another more powerful category of dragon.
@@xreaperxiii that's not what I remember reading and what some others have said, but I will look into it someday.
South park
To be fair... Kirkwall deserves to razed, Dragon Age 2 was kinda shit.
Gold dragon are so white XD
Good podcast, 1 giver of info, 1 giver of silliness. I would prefer less silliness.