Got an SVR f type and the car is built to have a monster underneath the hood. What I love is the "theater" the car produces when driving it. It's an event, even as my daily, the pops never get old.
I agree. The P300 is the best version for a number of reasons. Who needs more than 300HP on the street? For what reason? Of course, Jaguar decided to discontinue the P300 at the start of a Global petrol shortage.
Congratulations Dan..This is a very realistic report. I like this car with the 2ltr 4-Cylinder engine because where I live in the real world we can only travel at speed of 110kph. I am also one of the lucky ones who have gotten over my juvenile mentality. (I no longer measure things for my ego) One of the main features I have always loved about Jaguars is that they do what they do without too much noise. I just got rid of a Jaguar with v6 engine and I was really pleased to see it go. I work on my own cars and my Jaguar with the straight 6 is a much better and superior engine. As you say if you are buying a car for the track then? However if you are a beginner in this area I would suggest that you practice a lot on the track to keep your skills up to date as even this 2ltr 4 Cylinder engine will take you off the road if you don't have the skills. Anyone can go fast but not every one can keep the car on the road and not everyone survives accidents at speed. I do hope that lots of you speedsters out there have rolled a car and survived like I have, and have also learnt a lot like me a from my experiences.
I fully agree with you. Most car testers have a hang-up with childish things and look at cars as if they were toys. I had an XJ8 for a few years and really loved it. But I loved it for it's looks and comfort, and getting me about 35 mpg on the freeway, due to the all-aluminum engine and body, and I didn't need all the power and speed. Once we grow up mentally we start to appreciate stuff that really matters.
Funny because most Jag owners are old.. so they understand what to appreciate already and guess what? It's the V6 and V8 lol. Having a car like this is LITERALLY about the fun factor, not the economy. You don't buy one of these to pootle along and talk to your friends about fuel economy, you buy it to enjoy life
Yes in uk the V6 may be 4 grand more , but in some countries it is a whopping €25,000 more, astonishing, don't think the exhaust note is justified for that kind of money, have driven the 2.0 and it is a beautiful car to drive, does not cheapen the brand at all, in the other markets it will sell well due to price, if you want big theratal noise you can buy a V6 or V8, the V8 is a different beast altogether, but not much performance difference in the 2.0 and 3.0 to warrant the extra cash in other markets alright if you live in the uk, the weight difference does make a dramatic effect coming from racing karts all my life at club level, weight and balance is crucial. Not going to say it is better than another model, but it will suit some people and orders are flying in for it, not be long before the jag aftermarket exhausts specialists get to work on a bigger noise if someone once one.
Some good points. But something was bothering me about this video, and it took me a while to figure it out. And then it hit me. I couldn't hear the engine well over your excellent commentary. And for a Jag sports car, that's a problem.
V6 is almost as heavy as a V8 as the cylinder blocks are identical but with 6 cylinder heads on the V6. A V8 or inline 4 is the best choice. P300 or 6 cylinder Supra?
Well reasoned and very capably explained... despite the inevitable uphill struggle of trying to convince those among your audience for whom the V6 or V8 soundtrack outweighs every other consideration, whether they’re willing to admit it or not... 🤔 And the extra power, of course... 💪 As for myself, though I do (partly) fall into that latter category... 😂 I’m also amenable to reason and so I can see the appeal of owning the same beautiful vehicle, with the same opulent interior, but not feeling like I need to drive it like a hooligan in order to satisfy the auditory expectations of passengers and appreciative pedestrians alike. (I’m on my 4th TVR at the moment, and it’s often been hard to drive sedately when everyone and his dog wants to hear and see what TVR’s do best). Also, though you didn’t mention it, the improved fuel consumption, lower servicing, road tax and insurance costs all contribute towards a better value motoring experience, and the 2 litre model is also sure to depreciate slower than the more potent gas guzzlers, so another point in its favour... I’d never buy a new Jaguar - since they all depreciate horribly - but a relatively new, low mileage, low previous owners specimen that’s been well looked after and maintained, is very much a performance bargain when compared to many over priced and far less desirable competitors, especially from our German neighbours... and the fact remains that a Jaguar F-Type looks far more spectacular, is a far rarer sight, and draws way more admiring glances than most of its so-called rivals, however capable they might or might not be under their bland or commonplace exterior. I’ve been strongly drawn to the V6S and particularly the grippier AWD variant, if I can stretch my budget that far. Anyone who can make a compelling case for me to buy a cheaper, less potent alternative, and pat myself on the back for my wisdom 😏 (instead of feeling like I’ve just had to make do with less 😔) is certainly “pushing at an open door” as far as I’m concerned! ✌️😊 Thanks for a well timed review of the often overlooked baby Brother, who clearly deserves as much attention as his older, more hairy chested brothers usually receive. Great Video! 👍
I have a 2020 2L turbo P300 and it does so many things so well. Plenty of power, cool noises, unbelievable fun. Random Milfs telling me they like my car...lower insurance and maintenance. I have the same blue, but repainted the roof black. Also here in the USA long warranty that and the dealer included scheduled maintenance for 5 years.
@@uerti4013 Zero problems with the drive train at 35K miles. I use launch control occasionally and it's a blast! The only issue with the car has been the LED daytime light failed and the headlight washers failed. Thankfully under warranty.
Firstly, I haven't driven a modern Jag with a supercharged engine, but the older ones whine, which soon gets old and annoying, so I have been put off even trying an F-Type that until this time was only available with a supercharged engine. Secondly, I tend to prefer the sound of a good V6 over most V8s, but note that the 2020 model F-Type has just been announced and the V6s are gone. Thirdly, given that Jag's V6 required a supercharger to deliver 340hp, a naturally-aspirated version would have been underpowered. And I note that n/a is now out of favour because forced induction enables manufactuers to fool the official fuel consumption tests by driving without bringing in the turbo, however, in the real world the turbo sucks more fuel. Fourthly, however, IMO, the F-Type should be offered with the naturally-aspirated V8. The 385hp variant in the bigger and heavier XK was more than enough on British roads. And if it could be tweaked to deliver more than 400hp it would get over a likely psychological hurdle now that so many hot hatches deliver 300hp+ and a few are even circa 400hp. Fifthly, most people only drive on public roads and never on track. Most new performance cars are too powerful to exploit on public roads. Most exceed the national speed limit if you rev them out in 2nd gear. IMO, more than circa 400hp is wasted on public roads, and even that likely means you exceed the speed limit in 2nd, so circa 300hp likely means you can exploit significantly more of the car without risking your licence, which is surely a good thing. Sixthly, power isn't everything...obviously. Power without good handling and braking isn't much good. Power you can't effectively put down to the road even in a straight line is not much good and even dangerous. And there are current models from prestigious makers that struggle to effectively and safely put the power they have down to the road. IMO, this Jaguar takes a step in the direction of Lotus, and that isn't necessarily a bad direction, or a bad option to be given the choice of. In conclusion, while I am sceptical of the move to 4-cylinder turbos in cars like the F-Type and 718 Porsches, I note that turbos can add to performance driving enjoyment, and that this 4-cyl F-type actually seems pretty good, and IMO, sounds pretty good, too, especially if you judge it in its own right. Also, I think it is good to have the choice of a well-rounded car that looks 'proper' compared to hot hatches, and that can also be realistically used as a daily driver. I think the car needs to be judged in its own right and considering a different context from that which applies to its siblings. Maybe those that wouldn't consider a V6/V8 as a daily would consider a 4-cyl and see its softer suspension and more neutral handling as positives on top of lower purchase price and running costs? Maybe those that are primarily concerned with how a car looks and image will also welcome a cheaper model? And let's face it, I'm not aware of a single reviewer that has said the car is not good in its own right...only that they prefer the V6/V8 versions for their sound, or in the case of the V8s, for their drama! Context is everything! As always, YMMV.
It's funny, here in Ireland this car makes every sense as it comes in at €25K less than the V6 would you believe! It's a tax thing and makes it the ideal F-Type to buy, starting at €68K for this 2.0.
you're probably not the only one^^ for me the f-type is defined by it's beautiful shape and the sounds it makes when driving (or even seeing one passing by) it. Soundwise i prefer the v6 over the v8, but i always liked the more raw and higher pitched engine noises. The v8 still sounds great though and it's really a matter of personal preference. The 4 zylinder though.... i haven't seen one yet but watching videos the sound just doesnt cut it for me. Power is not the problem, the ford fiesta st "only" has 180hp and is still great fun to drive. The 4 zylinder f-type might still be a great car, but it's probably the same as with porsches.... it just doesn't seem right fitting a 4 zylinder engine in these cars, i could never buy one without being dissappointed not having the v6
Very good review. At 300 hp 0-60 in the 5.6 - 6 sec range, it's plenty quick for the overwhelming majority of people and their actual driving. I have a XK 5.0L n.a. and actively did not get the R version due to cost, one more thing. the supercharger, to worry about, and for me ....power I would never use. Lastly, I am envious of the upper 30's gas mileage of these 2.0 F Types.
Interesting video Dan. I'm pretty much in agreement that the smaller engined version of such cars can often be the sweeter drive - they're not trying to chase big numbers or prove anything & the lower weight over the front axle always makes a noticable difference to a cars balance. Nice to see the reference to flow as well - this is something I made a video about a couple of weeks ago and a vital ingredient for a good road car which often gets forgoten in the race for higher g forces and faster Nurburgring times.If only it came with a manual gearbox!!
On the used market the 4cyl is drastically cheaper and because there is more room under the engine it’s much easier to service. Also from what I have seen. The bigger engines are rougher on the drive train. So this 4cyl will prob last longer
Everyone else: v6, v8, emotion, bought for sound. Me knowing the common issues with the v6/8: i wonder if the 2.0 is more reliable and can have a nice map without blowing up?
I'm in the process of replacing my C class with an F-type. I've only driven the V8 so far, but I can see no way that either the V6 or the 4pot are better. The V8 is hilarious and lairy all the time. If you want a sharp handling sports car you should buy a Cayman, if you want theatre you buy an F-type with a big engine.
Recently bought my first jag at the age of 63 and opted for a 5.0L XK. The fuel consumption is bearable, as is the sky-high road tax. Despite its lack of a supercharger it goes like $hit off a shovel, as my old dad used to say and is well quick enough for me. Perhaps when I get to 70 I'll become sensible and trade in the XK for a 2.0L F-Type ......... if the wife will let me
Faster and more power than the old Jaguar V12... what's not to like... balance and agility + 39 MPG has me buying one, I can do without the silly look at me - noise switch, it'll probably soot up after a season or two anyway.
I own a type S and i feel like the less expensive 4 cylinder will only make the f-type less exclusive. A big reason the f-type is so special is because you don’t see it all the time like the corvette and the Germans.
idk about you ,the road sucks, the traffic is bad so makes more sense to get a 2.0 jaguar , you cant use the full power anyway , there is road in the world that needs more than this 2.0 300 hp jag does, yes we have germany with fancy roads and shit but at the end of the they you probably head back home and that not germany for most of people
The V6 is $10k more in America :( Performance-wise the 4 and the 6 are very similar so the 6 is kind of a waste unless that exhaust sound is worth 10k for you.
Hypothetical question: you have the choice of keys to Jaguar F Type; all versions from this 2.0L four cylinder through 3.0L V6 up to and including 5.0 V8 R and even 5.0L V8 SVR. Which would you choose (excluding purchase cost)
Honestly, I'd choose the 2.0, as I would be able to drive it 10x harder and faster on the road and in the future it would be kinder to the environment and better on fuel too.
V6s because of the sound, the v8 would drive me a bit mad with so much noise plus the extra weight, the 4 cylinder sounds okay but it doesn’t sound like a snarling hotrod like the v6 and v8 do.
Non-British reviewers tell the truth. The car is overpriced, even in countries that the tax is based on cc or emissions. It lacks a manual gearbox and even with the 52kg saving, the car is still heavy enough to make the turbo lag noticable. The car is made like it's destined to compete with the Mustang Ecoboost.
@@germanengineering204 Why? I use my Ferrari F12 if I want immense sound and weekend fun and it embarrasses both the V8 and V6 F Type. However, as a fun to drive, reasonably economical and good looking car to drive Monday to Friday, with some twisty B road fun thrown in on the commute to the business I run? The F Type in 4 cycl guise makes a lot of sense. Ask me how I know?
I was hoping for an entry level F-type for a much better price, not one thats basically $10,000 shy of a V6 in the States. If it was priced much better, I'd snag one right up, but now im just looking for damaged I4's on Copart for less than $18,000.
Nice and natural is not what you're going for with an F Type. Intoxicating is the word. Only the R & SVT provide this for me from driving a half dozen F types. Without the theatrics of the V8, you're missing out. I think this model cheapens the brand and is disappointing. Thanks for presenting a controversial point, but it's hard to believe you would take this over a roaring high performance beast. If it was the "best" I'm sure it would have a matching price point- add a couple electric motors to the front drivetrain like the NSX and 918 and perhaps you'd be right.
I'm looking to buy an F-type as a second, weekend car. I'll go for the V6. I'm sorry to say I wouldn't be seen dead in a 2 litre. It just doesn't have the sound or the poke of a V6 or V8.
Frankly I think the folks that “love” the 4 cylinder over other options are the ones that can only afford the 4 cylinder (initial cost, gas, maintenance, road tax, etc)…Generally speaking anyway, so I would take a lot of these glowing comments with a huge grain…Car enthusiasts deep down love fast beautiful cars…That is generally the true draw for most of us, I really believe this…Then there is what we can afford…There is a reason I don’t own a Lambo, and it’s not because I all of a sudden have some deep desire for a sexy Lambo with a 4 cylinder…Give me a break…Lots of silly talk in the comments here if you ask me, but this is one man’s opinion…Take it for what it’s worth…
I think Jag got the whole thing wrong. Starting with my 2017 V6 - it was missing some basic features, like keyless entry or home-link garage opener - but it sounds like a beast, right from the time you start it up. That car was the "base model" in 2017 - and the lease deals were great. Now they added all the necessary bells and whistles to the base model, but fitted it with a 4-banger. Hey - it's a Jag F-type - what freaking 4-cyl??? And the deals again are great - but only for the 4-cyl version. So now my lease is up, I love the car, the styling, the sound, the power - but will most likely have to settle for the base model again, not wanting to spend an extra $200/month... What a shame!!!
It's the worst in the range let's be honest. It literally sounds like a garden hedge trimmer and its weak and slow. Best one for England is the V6 with AWD, had the privilege of driving the 400 model and I've been in the 2.0 one and there's no comparison. 2.0 one is ass.
well ive been in the v6 and the 2.0 and tbh i dont see very much difference except the sound and thats all. Here in germany the v6 is way pricier than the 2.0. The ftype is not in general a fast car cause its heavy,but with the 2.0 you lose 50kg upfront while being only 0.3 seconds or so slower than the v6.i bet they will kill the base v6 sooner or later.
If you’re bothered about economy and handling, just buy a Golf Gti or an R - a car that an i4 works in perfectly. The Jag needs a V6 or V8, otherwise its character is lost.
Buying this car with a 4 cylinder in it is like going to a high class 4 or 5 star restaurant and ordering a baloney sandwich just to save money. I HATE the sound and vibrating feel of a 4 cylinder. Enough said.
No one said you had to buy a 4 banger. this was made for people who don’t care for a v8 in there jag but want a jag sports car that gets good fuel economy.
"just to save money" okay in that case, why buy a V6 or V8 F Type just to save money? Do what I did and buy a Ferrari F12 and stop being a cheapskate? Right? I use an F Type 4 cyl purely as a fun car for the commute to work (to the company I own) and for that, these vehicles actually make rather a lot of sense. For visceral weekend fun and outright performance, I wouldn't bother with an F Type at all, why would I when I can afford, and indeed have that glorious V12 Ferrari?
Sorry, don't try to convince me with reasons to buy a car which is bought with the heart. Then I prefer the M2 with more power, more seats, more trunk space, better technology...
I think that comparing the F-Type with any two-door Porsche, and knowing it's a sports car, you have to consider that the engine is in the front and in the rear there a very decent boot for a few bags, perfect for two going for a long weekend south of France. You can't say that about any two-door Porsche. And it seems quieter and more civilized overall than the other bigger cats, all the more that you only have 8 pots to go for as alternative. Completely unsustainable in Europe.
Very astute…Let’s be honest, to some degree there’s almost always some angle that needs to be brought into view…Very often it is exactly what you are suggesting…Not saying for sure this is the case here, but that would not surprise me in the least…
Dan, well done. You're right. The V6 and V8s can't really hold a candle to any equivalent Porsche, unless punters think that wearing a massive discount assuages that sinking feeling they're driving something deeply inferior....which, of course, they are :-). However, this 4-pot F-Type appears to be the most cohesive of all F-Types and, therefore, mechanically superior as a 'sporting' car. Pity about not having a manual and all the electric shizzle left hanging around just adding 'fat-ness', but maybe one day all those lovely F and E-Paces will finance a proper sports car that tips the scales sub-1500 kg.....
Can't hold a candle in what respect? Well, for a start, looks and sound, there's one clear winner and it's the F-Type. That's two thirds of what most folk look for. Even a Turbo S can't "hold a candle" to the sound of the Jaguar V8 and there's one clear winner with the looks department - and it's certainly not the boring and bland looking Turbo S.
My V8 also has great throttle response. It also comes with a massive grin every time you hit the start button. Hard to describe it once you press on the gas but certainly cant see it here. Buying an F-Type 2L probably bought by people that buy low fat cheese or stick to the missionary position.
if someone wants to race with you, let's say Aston martin with a V8 engine...A V4 will be...I mean you already paid that much money if you get the new car, why not get a v6 to match this beautiful body and you can also have that confidence when racing? (that's only my thought)
I think most of the people bought or want to buy this car because of the design. If you really want more horsepower for less money...C-class AMG, Chevrolet or Corvette Z06, etc are there for you.
Racing usually involves going round corners, the 2litre’s faster round these than the bigger engined cars. Unless you mean drag racing? In which case you’ve still bought the wrong model as motorbikes are faster.
Best choice is a V8; theatre, drama and outright thrills. Don't talk to me about the environment and being sensible. Buy an electric car if you want to compliant and sensible to appease the green lobby. I intend burning as much fossil fuel as I can. I am entitled to my opinion; nobody has to agree with me; looking at the comments below, very few would, don't care o)
Yeah, appeasing green lobby only, not necessary really solving the problem it supposedly sets out to solve…Whole other conversation and debate…Which makes what’s happening all the more frustrating…
Not really. The v6 is just 0.3s faster. Thats why Jag kicked it from most countries. Noone buys it as its worthless. The 2.0 is currently more than 50% of the F-Type sales.
Nah still think the V6 is the best choice for an F type imo. You get the better MPG closer to the 4 cylinder but you also get the beautiful exhaust notes and more power closer to the V8. It’s just the best mid ground for everyday use.
Each to their own and at least, unlike Porsche, Jaguar still offers a six- or eight-cylinder option too! Pity about the manual but their experience shows so few people want them it's not worth their while. It's even lower than the 5% quoted in the video in fact - less than half that in fact! And the 52kg is compared with the V6, mostly but not entirely from the engine. Thanks!
Dan Trent it sounds great to me plus the fuel economy should be excellent I live in Hawaii and I fill up at Costco gas cheapest on the island for regular and premium and ethanol free
Bro, why wouldn't you just get an Mx5 if you like 4pots...lighter, more balanced, just as good looking...cheaper as well...zero reason to go ftype, unless its a V6/V8...come on man
No the 4 pot is not the best version you buy a v6 or a v8 which is the proper version this car is a page filler/entry level model just like a base poxster not the one to buy and jaguar want you to buy the bigger engine cars as they will make more money off them
Bovine Scatology ! 4 cylinders belong in crappy little rice turd cars NOT Jaguars! Then why don't you buy a bloody Corolla? As for the $50K price tag, SAAB ragtops were nearly that much in 1999.
You can hear how slow that transmission is-- I've had the 8 speed ZF evoque in my family and let me tell you, it's an awfully slow transmission. Don't let anybody fool you.
Well a ZF trans in one car will feel much different from a ZF in another car. Its all on how the manufacturers tuned them. Most manufacturers will tune them for lazy smooth shifts for drive ability and best fuel consumption. They are very stout transmissions that can be tuned for lightning fast and rock hard shifts if your are aiming for the best performance. The new supra runs the ZF trans and the majority of people that reviewed the car say its the best tuned ZF trans on the market.
@@Hisokaa-d2j Based on my experiences with the ZF 8 speed, I have obtained a bias. Again, execute me for my crimes. What are you expecting? An apology? This ain't twitter. I stand by what I said.
Yes you are right this is boring. This is dull and sensible. In the meantime and to avoid a car sounding like a lawnmower I think I will be keeping my F Type SVR and both the thrill of 3.5 second 0-60 time and the bangs and crackles that go with it. Don't care about fuel economy or the environment. For those who want to save the planet.... use public transport
But the character is lost. Headlights are now ugly, no more cheek gills, ugly exhaust tip, lost its beautiful sound, no more bronze interior trims. Its just ruined an already beautiful car. The only thing upgraded are the seats and the infotainment system.
Headlights are basically the same only very minor changes, you can get the cheek grills, as im pretty sure they are standard, just a single exhaust, literally the same as the dual just in the center, and who cares about silly trim. The changes are very minor, unnoticeable basically. It has character of its own, more nimble, still great sound especially with the dynamic mode or whatever its called, better torque response because of the weight drop, almost 10 grand american less from dropping 2 cylinders, its still insane.
I know I'm 6 years late viewing your video, however this is terrific presentation of the p300 and I totally agree with your finding thank you
Let me guess, because the 4 cylinder meets your budget better…Lol…okay
Got an SVR f type and the car is built to have a monster underneath the hood. What I love is the "theater" the car produces when driving it. It's an event, even as my daily, the pops never get old.
I agree. The P300 is the best version for a number of reasons. Who needs more than 300HP on the street? For what reason?
Of course, Jaguar decided to discontinue the P300 at the start
of a Global petrol shortage.
Congratulations Dan..This is a very realistic report. I like this car with the 2ltr 4-Cylinder engine because where I live in the real world we can only travel at speed of 110kph. I am also one of the lucky ones who have gotten over my juvenile mentality. (I no longer measure things for my ego) One of the main features I have always loved about Jaguars is that they do what they do without too much noise. I just got rid of a Jaguar with v6 engine and I was really pleased to see it go. I work on my own cars and my Jaguar with the straight 6 is a much better and superior engine. As you say if you are buying a car for the track then? However if you are a beginner in this area I would suggest that you practice a lot on the track to keep your skills up to date as even this 2ltr 4 Cylinder engine will take you off the road if you don't have the skills. Anyone can go fast but not every one can keep the car on the road and not everyone survives accidents at speed. I do hope that lots of you speedsters out there have rolled a car and survived like I have, and have also learnt a lot like me a from my experiences.
I’ve owned both the V6 manual and now the 2.0 litre. The latter is better, more useable, more accessible for the ordinary mortal .
What was the real world mpg difference?
Nonsense
Hello. Years later, can you tell me if the Ingenium engine is reliable?
I fully agree with you. Most car testers have a hang-up with childish things and look at cars as if they were toys. I had an XJ8 for a few years and really loved it. But I loved it for it's looks and comfort, and getting me about 35 mpg on the freeway, due to the all-aluminum engine and body, and I didn't need all the power and speed. Once we grow up mentally we start to appreciate stuff that really matters.
........... once you get old
Funny because most Jag owners are old.. so they understand what to appreciate already and guess what?
It's the V6 and V8 lol. Having a car like this is LITERALLY about the fun factor, not the economy. You don't buy one of these to pootle along and talk to your friends about fuel economy, you buy it to enjoy life
Yes in uk the V6 may be 4 grand more , but in some countries it is a whopping €25,000 more, astonishing, don't think the exhaust note is justified for that kind of money, have driven the 2.0 and it is a beautiful car to drive, does not cheapen the brand at all, in the other markets it will sell well due to price, if you want big theratal noise you can buy a V6 or V8, the V8 is a different beast altogether, but not much performance difference in the 2.0 and 3.0 to warrant the extra cash in other markets alright if you live in the uk, the weight difference does make a dramatic effect coming from racing karts all my life at club level, weight and balance is crucial. Not going to say it is better than another model, but it will suit some people and orders are flying in for it, not be long before the jag aftermarket exhausts specialists get to work on a bigger noise if someone once one.
It doesn’t cheapen the brand, it cheapens the f type range in my opinion.
Mapping it for more power 😆
I’m no armchair expert, driven them all and bought the best in the range, as recommended by you the 2 litre is the best!
Some good points. But something was bothering me about this video, and it took me a while to figure it out.
And then it hit me.
I couldn't hear the engine well over your excellent commentary.
And for a Jag sports car, that's a problem.
The noise the V6's and V8's make, are what makes this car an end of life aspiration for me . . . . . . 4 cylinder is just too sterile. Sorry.
Blame the high taxes in some country for anything above 2 liters
V6 is almost as heavy as a V8 as the cylinder blocks are identical but with 6 cylinder heads on the V6. A V8 or inline 4 is the best choice. P300 or 6 cylinder Supra?
Well reasoned and very capably explained... despite the inevitable uphill struggle of trying to convince those among your audience for whom the V6 or V8 soundtrack outweighs every other consideration, whether they’re willing to admit it or not... 🤔 And the extra power, of course... 💪
As for myself, though I do (partly) fall into that latter category... 😂 I’m also amenable to reason and so I can see the appeal of owning the same beautiful vehicle, with the same opulent interior, but not feeling like I need to drive it like a hooligan in order to satisfy the auditory expectations of passengers and appreciative pedestrians alike. (I’m on my 4th TVR at the moment, and it’s often been hard to drive sedately when everyone and his dog wants to hear and see what TVR’s do best). Also, though you didn’t mention it, the improved fuel consumption, lower servicing, road tax and insurance costs all contribute towards a better value motoring experience, and the 2 litre model is also sure to depreciate slower than the more potent gas guzzlers, so another point in its favour...
I’d never buy a new Jaguar - since they all depreciate horribly - but a relatively new, low mileage, low previous owners specimen that’s been well looked after and maintained, is very much a performance bargain when compared to many over priced and far less desirable competitors, especially from our German neighbours... and the fact remains that a Jaguar F-Type looks far more spectacular, is a far rarer sight, and draws way more admiring glances than most of its so-called rivals, however capable they might or might not be under their bland or commonplace exterior.
I’ve been strongly drawn to the V6S and particularly the grippier AWD variant, if I can stretch my budget that far. Anyone who can make a compelling case for me to buy a cheaper, less potent alternative, and pat myself on the back for my wisdom 😏 (instead of feeling like I’ve just had to make do with less 😔) is certainly “pushing at an open door” as far as I’m concerned! ✌️😊 Thanks for a well timed review of the often overlooked baby Brother, who clearly deserves as much attention as his older, more hairy chested brothers usually receive. Great Video! 👍
I love mine , had the 6 Cyl 2015 and went to the 2018 Turbo and love it 100%
I have a 2020 2L turbo P300 and it does so many things so well. Plenty of power, cool noises, unbelievable fun. Random Milfs telling me they like my car...lower insurance and maintenance. I have the same blue, but repainted the roof black. Also here in the USA long warranty that and the dealer included scheduled maintenance for 5 years.
Hello. Years later, can you tell me if the Ingenium engine is reliable?
@@uerti4013 Zero problems with the drive train at 35K miles. I use launch control occasionally and it's a blast! The only issue with the car has been the LED daytime light failed and the headlight washers failed. Thankfully under warranty.
In THIS day and age, WHY do road testers hardly concern themselves with MPG ? Got to be a big point with even rich folk.
What about the 1 liter 2 cylinder F Type?
Firstly, I haven't driven a modern Jag with a supercharged engine, but the older ones whine, which soon gets old and annoying, so I have been put off even trying an F-Type that until this time was only available with a supercharged engine.
Secondly, I tend to prefer the sound of a good V6 over most V8s, but note that the 2020 model F-Type has just been announced and the V6s are gone.
Thirdly, given that Jag's V6 required a supercharger to deliver 340hp, a naturally-aspirated version would have been underpowered. And I note that n/a is now out of favour because forced induction enables manufactuers to fool the official fuel consumption tests by driving without bringing in the turbo, however, in the real world the turbo sucks more fuel.
Fourthly, however, IMO, the F-Type should be offered with the naturally-aspirated V8. The 385hp variant in the bigger and heavier XK was more than enough on British roads. And if it could be tweaked to deliver more than 400hp it would get over a likely psychological hurdle now that so many hot hatches deliver 300hp+ and a few are even circa 400hp.
Fifthly, most people only drive on public roads and never on track. Most new performance cars are too powerful to exploit on public roads. Most exceed the national speed limit if you rev them out in 2nd gear. IMO, more than circa 400hp is wasted on public roads, and even that likely means you exceed the speed limit in 2nd, so circa 300hp likely means you can exploit significantly more of the car without risking your licence, which is surely a good thing.
Sixthly, power isn't everything...obviously. Power without good handling and braking isn't much good. Power you can't effectively put down to the road even in a straight line is not much good and even dangerous. And there are current models from prestigious makers that struggle to effectively and safely put the power they have down to the road. IMO, this Jaguar takes a step in the direction of Lotus, and that isn't necessarily a bad direction, or a bad option to be given the choice of.
In conclusion, while I am sceptical of the move to 4-cylinder turbos in cars like the F-Type and 718 Porsches, I note that turbos can add to performance driving enjoyment, and that this 4-cyl F-type actually seems pretty good, and IMO, sounds pretty good, too, especially if you judge it in its own right. Also, I think it is good to have the choice of a well-rounded car that looks 'proper' compared to hot hatches, and that can also be realistically used as a daily driver. I think the car needs to be judged in its own right and considering a different context from that which applies to its siblings. Maybe those that wouldn't consider a V6/V8 as a daily would consider a 4-cyl and see its softer suspension and more neutral handling as positives on top of lower purchase price and running costs? Maybe those that are primarily concerned with how a car looks and image will also welcome a cheaper model? And let's face it, I'm not aware of a single reviewer that has said the car is not good in its own right...only that they prefer the V6/V8 versions for their sound, or in the case of the V8s, for their drama! Context is everything!
As always, YMMV.
This is why I am getting a n/a V8 XK instead of F-Type for a comfortable GT road trip car.
It's funny, here in Ireland this car makes every sense as it comes in at €25K less than the V6 would you believe! It's a tax thing and makes it the ideal F-Type to buy, starting at €68K for this 2.0.
v6 and v8 sound way better than this. one of the reasons I bought this car was for the sound
you're probably not the only one^^ for me the f-type is defined by it's beautiful shape and the sounds it makes when driving (or even seeing one passing by) it. Soundwise i prefer the v6 over the v8, but i always liked the more raw and higher pitched engine noises. The v8 still sounds great though and it's really a matter of personal preference. The 4 zylinder though.... i haven't seen one yet but watching videos the sound just doesnt cut it for me. Power is not the problem, the ford fiesta st "only" has 180hp and is still great fun to drive. The 4 zylinder f-type might still be a great car, but it's probably the same as with porsches.... it just doesn't seem right fitting a 4 zylinder engine in these cars, i could never buy one without being dissappointed not having the v6
Commenting from the spectator stands eh got bitch slapped by jiren
II KOACH II I don’t believe someone who has cartoon character as profile pic drives anything other then tram
Are you 12 years old?
Very good review. At 300 hp 0-60 in the 5.6 - 6 sec range, it's plenty quick for the overwhelming majority of people and their actual driving. I have a XK 5.0L n.a. and actively did not get the R version due to cost, one more thing. the supercharger, to worry about, and for me ....power I would never use. Lastly, I am envious of the upper 30's gas mileage of these 2.0 F Types.
Who buys a Jaguar to save gas? 🤡
@@ExplorerMediaPeople that want to drive them everyday.
@@life_of_riley88 you know that’s BS lol you want an affordable daily, get a Toyota otherwise don’t complain about gas
@@ExplorerMedia I daily drove my XKR. . .and enjoyed it, but would have loved 30+mpg instead of 22-24. I also have a KIA Rio 😆
This car actually feels faster than the specs they give for 0 to 60
Interesting video Dan. I'm pretty much in agreement that the smaller engined version of such cars can often be the sweeter drive - they're not trying to chase big numbers or prove anything & the lower weight over the front axle always makes a noticable difference to a cars balance. Nice to see the reference to flow as well - this is something I made a video about a couple of weeks ago and a vital ingredient for a good road car which often gets forgoten in the race for higher g forces and faster Nurburgring times.If only it came with a manual gearbox!!
Thanks! And the right road helps too, eh?
Dan Trent Yeah, it's a good one! I've got some more new ones for you for next time!
On the used market the 4cyl is drastically cheaper and because there is more room under the engine it’s much easier to service. Also from what I have seen. The bigger engines are rougher on the drive train. So this 4cyl will prob last longer
I would pay the extra 4K for a V6☺
Its almost 10k american
It also includes extra taxes and higher repair costs
@@quintijnkroesbergen5611 well worth it the 4 is awful compared to the 6 cylinder!
And it sounds far nicer than the 718
I love it can’t wait to get mine
Everyone else: v6, v8, emotion, bought for sound.
Me knowing the common issues with the v6/8: i wonder if the 2.0 is more reliable and can have a nice map without blowing up?
Good video Dan!
I hope Jaguar releases this model with the manual because the base 718 Porsche comes with manual and pdk is a 4k option.
Jacob Keepa agree! A manual version would peak my interest
Jacob Keepa you can get a manual 340hp and 380hp 3 litre v6
Liam Hodgson not on the 2 liter. At least not here in the states. ZF 8 speed auto only
Blake Swan yeahhh just realised, I thought there was a manual in the 2 litre my mistake
Liam Hodgson oh no worries. Logically you would think it would be offered in a manual since the V6 has it. I was surprised
I'm in the process of replacing my C class with an F-type. I've only driven the V8 so far, but I can see no way that either the V6 or the 4pot are better.
The V8 is hilarious and lairy all the time. If you want a sharp handling sports car you should buy a Cayman, if you want theatre you buy an F-type with a big engine.
Recently bought my first jag at the age of 63 and opted for a 5.0L XK. The fuel consumption is bearable, as is the sky-high road tax.
Despite its lack of a supercharger it goes like $hit off a shovel, as my old dad used to say and is well quick enough for me.
Perhaps when I get to 70 I'll become sensible and trade in the XK for a 2.0L F-Type ......... if the wife will let me
I’m 723 and I’m buying one what is the age got to do with it
Good review
Faster and more power than the old Jaguar V12... what's not to like... balance and agility + 39 MPG has me buying one, I can do without the silly look at me - noise switch, it'll probably soot up after a season or two anyway.
I own a type S and i feel like the less expensive 4 cylinder will only make the f-type less exclusive. A big reason the f-type is so special is because you don’t see it all the time like the corvette and the Germans.
These are all paid reviews. Surprisingly no car reviewer is speaking badly about this 4-cylinder. Despite… well… their bored faces.
I’d just get a porche if I wanted that the v6 sounds insane
idk about you ,the road sucks, the traffic is bad so makes more sense to get a 2.0 jaguar , you cant use the full power anyway , there is road in the world that needs more than this 2.0 300 hp jag does, yes we have germany with fancy roads and shit but at the end of the they you probably head back home and that not germany for most of people
The V6 is $10k more in America :( Performance-wise the 4 and the 6 are very similar so the 6 is kind of a waste unless that exhaust sound is worth 10k for you.
Same here in Germany.
Lol in China the v6 cost 40k euros more.
Hypothetical question:
you have the choice of keys to Jaguar F Type; all versions from this 2.0L four cylinder through 3.0L V6 up to and including 5.0 V8 R and even 5.0L V8 SVR.
Which would you choose (excluding purchase cost)
Or drop 20 years, 400cc, 500kg and 45k and get an MX-5.
Shane Pleasance rusty shit box altho a hoot to drive dont compare it to something like an svr lol
Honestly, I'd choose the 2.0, as I would be able to drive it 10x harder and faster on the road and in the future it would be kinder to the environment and better on fuel too.
V6s because of the sound, the v8 would drive me a bit mad with so much noise plus the extra weight, the 4 cylinder sounds okay but it doesn’t sound like a snarling hotrod like the v6 and v8 do.
SVR - it’s a riot and full sensory overload whenever you want....
Power beauty speed and mpg it has it all
a 3-cilinder 1.0 liter would be better, still more weight saving up front
Made me laugh. Thanks for that.
Or a w16 engine for more childish noise & higher taxes.
why add an engine at all when you can save 400 kilos by not adding an engine? 😃
Non-British reviewers tell the truth. The car is overpriced, even in countries that the tax is based on cc or emissions. It lacks a manual gearbox and even with the 52kg saving, the car is still heavy enough to make the turbo lag noticable. The car is made like it's destined to compete with the Mustang Ecoboost.
So how many of these 4 cylinders have you drove?
Talk shit it’s an amazing car to drive the Mustang is a peace of shit compared to the jaguar
Aftastos K the Mustang looks like a dog...the F type is handsome
In the UK the F-type is cheap
the v6 includes extra taxes and higher repair costs beside the fuel, i think this 2.0 f type can be a daily "supercar"
It's absolutely 100 % worth it if you have the disposable income!
@@germanengineering204 Why? I use my Ferrari F12 if I want immense sound and weekend fun and it embarrasses both the V8 and V6 F Type.
However, as a fun to drive, reasonably economical and good looking car to drive Monday to Friday, with some twisty B road fun thrown in on the commute to the business I run? The F Type in 4 cycl guise makes a lot of sense. Ask me how I know?
@@iiwii8622well said bro!
I was hoping for an entry level F-type for a much better price, not one thats basically $10,000 shy of a V6 in the States. If it was priced much better, I'd snag one right up, but now im just looking for damaged I4's on Copart for less than $18,000.
Yaaay GTI Trompete Sound in a F Type 😂
Nice and natural is not what you're going for with an F Type. Intoxicating is the word. Only the R & SVT provide this for me from driving a half dozen F types. Without the theatrics of the V8, you're missing out. I think this model cheapens the brand and is disappointing. Thanks for presenting a controversial point, but it's hard to believe you would take this over a roaring high performance beast. If it was the "best" I'm sure it would have a matching price point- add a couple electric motors to the front drivetrain like the NSX and 918 and perhaps you'd be right.
Interesting, what front/rear spring frequencies does it use please?
I'm looking to buy an F-type as a second, weekend car. I'll go for the V6. I'm sorry to say I wouldn't be seen dead in a 2 litre. It just doesn't have the sound or the poke of a V6 or V8.
Frankly I think the folks that “love” the 4 cylinder over other options are the ones that can only afford the 4 cylinder (initial cost, gas, maintenance, road tax, etc)…Generally speaking anyway, so I would take a lot of these glowing comments with a huge grain…Car enthusiasts deep down love fast beautiful cars…That is generally the true draw for most of us, I really believe this…Then there is what we can afford…There is a reason I don’t own a Lambo, and it’s not because I all of a sudden have some deep desire for a sexy Lambo with a 4 cylinder…Give me a break…Lots of silly talk in the comments here if you ask me, but this is one man’s opinion…Take it for what it’s worth…
The only version of this car that's how good is the v 8 I mean, literally half the experiences in the sound.
I took a test drive in one a year ago. I couldn't believe the amount of freeplay in the steering, around 30 degrees. Is that typical or just that car?
For the 2.0t version, I test drove the v6. Yes there are a big free play in the steering.
My S has none.
If this thing came with a manual i think it would suit this car a lot more but 50k??£? Thats just wayyyyyyy too much
I think Jag got the whole thing wrong. Starting with my 2017 V6 - it was missing some basic features, like keyless entry or home-link garage opener - but it sounds like a beast, right from the time you start it up. That car was the "base model" in 2017 - and the lease deals were great. Now they added all the necessary bells and whistles to the base model, but fitted it with a 4-banger. Hey - it's a Jag F-type - what freaking 4-cyl??? And the deals again are great - but only for the 4-cyl version. So now my lease is up, I love the car, the styling, the sound, the power - but will most likely have to settle for the base model again, not wanting to spend an extra $200/month... What a shame!!!
I wouldn't get keyless entry, too easy to steal.
Does anyone know the fuel consumption on this 2.0? Is it good?
It's the worst in the range let's be honest. It literally sounds like a garden hedge trimmer and its weak and slow. Best one for England is the V6 with AWD, had the privilege of driving the 400 model and I've been in the 2.0 one and there's no comparison. 2.0 one is ass.
well ive been in the v6 and the 2.0 and tbh i dont see very much difference except the sound and thats all. Here in germany the v6 is way pricier than the 2.0. The ftype is not in general a fast car cause its heavy,but with the 2.0 you lose 50kg upfront while being only 0.3 seconds or so slower than the v6.i bet they will kill the base v6 sooner or later.
@@meddler766 You were correct. You can't get the V6 anymore in the UK and I assume Europe, with the latest model. It's 2.0 or the V8. That's it.
If you’re bothered about economy and handling, just buy a Golf Gti or an R - a car that an i4 works in perfectly.
The Jag needs a V6 or V8, otherwise its character is lost.
Really good video !
Buying this car with a 4 cylinder in it is like going to a high class 4 or 5 star restaurant and ordering a baloney sandwich just to save money. I HATE the sound and vibrating feel of a 4 cylinder. Enough said.
Totally agree.
not everybody can afford a V8 dude.
Try to buy V8 in Poland, good luck. It’s just not worth
No one said you had to buy a 4 banger. this was made for people who don’t care for a v8 in there jag but want a jag sports car that gets good fuel economy.
"just to save money" okay in that case, why buy a V6 or V8 F Type just to save money? Do what I did and buy a Ferrari F12 and stop being a cheapskate? Right?
I use an F Type 4 cyl purely as a fun car for the commute to work (to the company I own) and for that, these vehicles actually make rather a lot of sense.
For visceral weekend fun and outright performance, I wouldn't bother with an F Type at all, why would I when I can afford, and indeed have that glorious V12 Ferrari?
My girlfriends weight is less than 52 kg and trust me that they will definitely squirt more being driven with a V6 or V8
Lol ofc you incel.
Ewwwwwwwww......
Reliability of this car? Does the engine have problems like its Diesel brother?
The 2.0 diesel is problematic ?
@@vladimirart758 The ingenium engine is said to be full of problems
Still sporty but more efficient
Sorry, don't try to convince me with reasons to buy a car which is bought with the heart.
Then I prefer the M2 with more power, more seats, more trunk space, better technology...
I think that comparing the F-Type with any two-door Porsche, and knowing it's a sports car, you have to consider that the engine is in the front and in the rear there a very decent boot for a few bags, perfect for two going for a long weekend south of France. You can't say that about any two-door Porsche. And it seems quieter and more civilized overall than the other bigger cats, all the more that you only have 8 pots to go for as alternative. Completely unsustainable in Europe.
Can you mapp more power?
I'm guessing there will be a diesel version soon? I'm sure it would sell well.
Should you buy a petrol car or electric car
it needed to be more afforable to make sense
How much did Jaguar pay you?
Very astute…Let’s be honest, to some degree there’s almost always some angle that needs to be brought into view…Very often it is exactly what you are suggesting…Not saying for sure this is the case here, but that would not surprise me in the least…
For once it was refreshing to hear Jaguar pronounced properly... But then you proceeded to saying Porschhh in American
well brits dont pronounce it properly either pretty much only german natives pronounce it properly, since its a german brand
Dan, well done. You're right. The V6 and V8s can't really hold a candle to any equivalent Porsche, unless punters think that wearing a massive discount assuages that sinking feeling they're driving something deeply inferior....which, of course, they are :-). However, this 4-pot F-Type appears to be the most cohesive of all F-Types and, therefore, mechanically superior as a 'sporting' car. Pity about not having a manual and all the electric shizzle left hanging around just adding 'fat-ness', but maybe one day all those lovely F and E-Paces will finance a proper sports car that tips the scales sub-1500 kg.....
Can't hold a candle in what respect? Well, for a start, looks and sound, there's one clear winner and it's the F-Type. That's two thirds of what most folk look for. Even a Turbo S can't "hold a candle" to the sound of the Jaguar V8 and there's one clear winner with the looks department - and it's certainly not the boring and bland looking Turbo S.
Porsches are as common as Hondas at this point. Meh.
This is a ridiculous statement even 6 years on…So silly…But hey, people will say silly things that meet their narrative…
Nah. V-6 at least . V8 preferred save weight by junking stuff like heavy seats air con sound proofing
Great video Dan, I own a v6s. What B road in Snowdon is that bud?
Cheers! It's the B4391 running between Ffestiniog and Bala. Great road but likely to be busy with car photoshoots!
My V8 also has great throttle response. It also comes with a massive grin every time you hit the start button. Hard to describe it once you press on the gas but certainly cant see it here. Buying an F-Type 2L probably bought by people that buy low fat cheese or stick to the missionary position.
if someone wants to race with you, let's say Aston martin with a V8 engine...A V4 will be...I mean you already paid that much money if you get the new car, why not get a v6 to match this beautiful body and you can also have that confidence when racing? (that's only my thought)
I think most of the people bought or want to buy this car because of the design. If you really want more horsepower for less money...C-class AMG, Chevrolet or Corvette Z06, etc are there for you.
Racing usually involves going round corners, the 2litre’s faster round these than the bigger engined cars.
Unless you mean drag racing? In which case you’ve still bought the wrong model as motorbikes are faster.
Me personally , would like to see a hybrid , i appreciate efficiency. Extra poke , would be the incentive over the larger engines
It has lost its soul when they put the 4 cylinder in
Best choice is a V8; theatre, drama and outright thrills. Don't talk to me about the environment and being sensible. Buy an electric car if you want to compliant and sensible to appease the green lobby. I intend burning as much fossil fuel as I can. I am entitled to my opinion; nobody has to agree with me; looking at the comments below, very few would, don't care o)
✌️ Same here
Yeah, appeasing green lobby only, not necessary really solving the problem it supposedly sets out to solve…Whole other conversation and debate…Which makes what’s happening all the more frustrating…
Why is Jordan Peterson driving a Jag? Any ideas please?
V8!!!!!
IT IS RIDICULOUS COMPARE 2.0 LITER ENGINE WITH V6 OR V8 ENGINE...
Not really. The v6 is just 0.3s faster. Thats why Jag kicked it from most countries. Noone buys it as its worthless. The 2.0 is currently more than 50% of the F-Type sales.
Make a good base for a hybrid F-Type.
So it’s the f type for old people??
No, it’s the f type for thinking people.
Nah still think the V6 is the best choice for an F type imo. You get the better MPG closer to the 4 cylinder but you also get the beautiful exhaust notes and more power closer to the V8. It’s just the best mid ground for everyday use.
You don’t get the sharper 2litre handling though, much better on twisty roads!
Sounds awful and has no manual. I can't support your opinion. Is the 52kg savings in the front when compared to the V6 or V8?
Each to their own and at least, unlike Porsche, Jaguar still offers a six- or eight-cylinder option too! Pity about the manual but their experience shows so few people want them it's not worth their while. It's even lower than the 5% quoted in the video in fact - less than half that in fact!
And the 52kg is compared with the V6, mostly but not entirely from the engine. Thanks!
Dan Trent it sounds great to me plus the fuel economy should be excellent I live in Hawaii and I fill up at Costco gas cheapest on the island for regular and premium and ethanol free
Yuk Brown leather seats spoiling a lovely body colour.
not to talk of the engine lmao
Is there any greater British motoring journalist cliche than ALWAYS insisting the one with the smaller engine is actually the best? nice video though
Oh I dunno, can think of a few! Corners on rails, stump-pulling torque, thumbing the starter button ... I could go on! Glad you liked the vid though!
'It's a racecar for the road!' 'It's an absolute weapon!'
Bro, why wouldn't you just get an Mx5 if you like 4pots...lighter, more balanced, just as good looking...cheaper as well...zero reason to go ftype, unless its a V6/V8...come on man
No the 4 pot is not the best version you buy a v6 or a v8 which is the proper version this car is a page filler/entry level model just like a base poxster not the one to buy and jaguar want you to buy the bigger engine cars as they will make more money off them
Sounds like crap.
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UALHVY compared to a 718 its excellent sound
Save gas and look classy asf say less
Bovine Scatology ! 4 cylinders belong in crappy little rice turd cars NOT Jaguars! Then why don't you buy a bloody Corolla? As for the $50K price tag, SAAB ragtops were nearly that much in 1999.
Oh God please stop.
Saves 52kilos, only another 350 kilos to go then.
Seriously? Are you on drugs? Ridiculous argument
You can hear how slow that transmission is-- I've had the 8 speed ZF evoque in my family and let me tell you, it's an awfully slow transmission. Don't let anybody fool you.
Well a ZF trans in one car will feel much different from a ZF in another car. Its all on how the manufacturers tuned them. Most manufacturers will tune them for lazy smooth shifts for drive ability and best fuel consumption. They are very stout transmissions that can be tuned for lightning fast and rock hard shifts if your are aiming for the best performance. The new supra runs the ZF trans and the majority of people that reviewed the car say its the best tuned ZF trans on the market.
@@Hisokaa-d2j Oh no, I gave my personal anecdotal experience with a ZF Transmission! Crucify me no pfp.
@@Hisokaa-d2j Based on my experiences with the ZF 8 speed, I have obtained a bias. Again, execute me for my crimes.
What are you expecting? An apology? This ain't twitter. I stand by what I said.
The 4 cylinder should be crushed.
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A decade ago a Bmw 3l twin turbo had the same power power output.
Yes but 300 pounds of torque at 1400rpm is a real thrill.
No
Yes you are right this is boring. This is dull and sensible. In the meantime and to avoid a car sounding like a lawnmower I think I will be keeping my F Type SVR and both the thrill of 3.5 second 0-60 time and the bangs and crackles that go with it. Don't care about fuel economy or the environment. For those who want to save the planet.... use public transport
But the character is lost. Headlights are now ugly, no more cheek gills, ugly exhaust tip, lost its beautiful sound, no more bronze interior trims. Its just ruined an already beautiful car. The only thing upgraded are the seats and the infotainment system.
Headlights are basically the same only very minor changes, you can get the cheek grills, as im pretty sure they are standard, just a single exhaust, literally the same as the dual just in the center, and who cares about silly trim. The changes are very minor, unnoticeable basically. It has character of its own, more nimble, still great sound especially with the dynamic mode or whatever its called, better torque response because of the weight drop, almost 10 grand american less from dropping 2 cylinders, its still insane.
Shit engine
16 sec in and just no.
This video must be a joke.