In the UK and don't even see an option to prefer fuel efficient routes nevermind specify what engine type I have. Looks like it has some way to go before it competes with ABRP and zap-map so I will just wait.
I would have been impressed if google released an efficient route from charger to charger for best efficient trip planning, then the comparison with a better routeplanner would be more interesting and worthwhile to compare. Then we would only need one app. Instead of now dealing with multiple apps for efficient route planing and driving and charging (more work less efficient).
For me, start directions for your destination, pull up on the menu bar at the bottom, select “search along route”, type in “charging stations”. Would be nice as a default option for sure though.
ABRP (A Better Route Planner) already has charging station locations shown in the route, and you can even tell it what kind you prefer/have a membership with (Tesla SuperChargers, ChargePoint etc)
I've been hoping for this for a long time. It's especially useful for me, because my plug-in hybrid has an official range of only 53 miles, and this will make it easier not to burn gasoline.
There's a huge difference between _route planning_ and simple routing with charger locations along the way. ABRP is currently superior to Google Maps in that it takes your particular EV into account, along with your preferences, such as quickest arrival, then actually plans your route, *as well as* suggests a charging strategy. Since this video dropped a year ago, there's been zero progress shown by Google Maps to make the product more useful for true route planning.
For me here in Melbourne Australia it appears that the 'Settings > Navigation settings' option is not there for me. There *IS* a 'Settings > Navigation > Route Options', but no 'Prefer fuel-efficient routes', or 'Engine type'. There is also an 'Electric Vehicle Settings' under 'Account Settings', but it only allows you to select what plug types your vehicle can handle. Anyone here in Melb got this working ?
It’s odd they haven’t done this for ages, particularly when their Android automotive offerings are in Volvo and Polestar EV’s where they include quite good route planning including charging station and battery on arrival. Would be nice to have those functions on my phone or tablet to plan out a road trip, I guess it’s ABRP for now for that functionality.
It does not appear that the function is available in Denmark. Everything in Google is about fossil cars. If you can choose to see BEV chargers this far down the list, you only have a few brands with, for example, Tesla not included in the overview. Google is just so far behind on BEV. I love Google maps, but I hate that Google is so slow to follow up.
I hope they also add a feature that tells me BEFORE I need to turn & pull into a driveway to turn around instead of going 2 mi out of my way to correct course. I'd like two efficiency level settings, a Max setting it takes surface streets & Min setting that avoids time saving backtracking, or less direct but faster freeways.
Google could work with Tesla. Google should add a feature for the customer to upload a file and mark pot holes, closed streets, other things. This could be for any customer, but Tesla FSD vehicles could start feeding this data to Tesla and they could build a combined file to distribute to the fleet. Following Musk's logic, these would all include an expire date. There would be multiple files for different geographic areas so you don't download updates for the whole country. Then when one vehicle sees a pot hole, others are warned. Google has only provided the interface, and is not responsible for data accuracy.
I think Teslas could automatically record potholes (every time a car hits one, sensors detect the shock and every Tesla that "finds" the same hole confirms suspected pothole. That info would be relayed back to the Mother Ship, similar to the way Google detects delays, average speeds at various times of day.
I just ran a comparison on a 1,300 mile trip from St. Louis, MO USA to Park City, UT Google map is a joke A Better Route Planner is comparable to the Tesla guidance in the Tesla and wins hands down I don't even see charging stations on Google Maps and I've followed all the settings listed in this video. not even close
@@noleftturns obd2 scanner is used by mechanics to access the car's computer. In EVs, it can read the battery state of charge, consumption history, etc... Adding that capability to the route planner should make it a lot more accurate.
5:55 Absolutly, not only the itinerary needs to determine the consumption, but the itinerary needs also to integrate the superchargers usage and location. I have a Tesla and travelling is so easy, but during may last trip I decided to use the Electrify America CCS Supercharger network. And it was really difficult to estimate which EA Supercharger I had to stop to, also preconditioning was not activated so charging was very slow.
Glad to see GMaps implementing this. I just drove down to Margaret river last week; the route was littered with EV chargers including super chargers which was nice compared to a few years ago. Maybe useful for the Nullarbor or far North of Western Australia.
yep, Google should have bought ABRP but they let Rivian scoop them up. That was dumb. Google needs to be able to calculate when and where to charge like Tesla navigation.
timing .just watched some guy in the U.K have range anxiety in his porche EV. He was using waze to find chargers unsuccessfully.his takeaway was not enough charges.Let the early adopters sort it out.
You're referring to the MacMaster I assume who is either totally clueless when it comes to trip planning or deliberately creating controversy for the clicks. I assume the latter given his love of clickbait titles.
Another option is PLUGSHARE, but when I enter Sydney as my destination from Melb, it AVOIDS Tesla SuperChargers (even thought it knows I have a Model Y. Weird. (And there's no way to force it to use superchargers either - well not that I could see anyway)...
Still not as good as the Tesla navigation for trips. The ability to see all the charge locations on the route and the percentage of battery you will have when you get there is perfect. Google should just buy a better route planner and take all their ideas and roll them into Google maps. Tesla cars are already have good EV nav features but non-Tesla EVs need to know where the WORKING chargers are on the route.
I still don't see any Engine Type setting in Google Maps (last updated Sept 12 on Android), maybe it's not in Canada just yet? Besides, an even more usefull feature would be a "Find nearest Fast Charger" button instead of the fossil "Find nearest Gas Station" option...
Apple teased tighter vehicle integration possibilities with iOS 16 and CarPlay. Hopefully this means eventually CarPlay should know what kind of vehicle you are driving and have access to state of charge and average efficiency numbers, which could be used in navigation apps like Apple Maps, Google Maps, ABRP.
At present it's not really good for a route planner. A Better Route Planner is better currently. But for short routes not needing charging stops it's good. But overall time is also important and I don't like having to go through cities. I generally hate stop and go traffic.
A Better Route Planner (ABRP) used to be a very straightforward way to plan a route based on your specific EV model, as you could see all the possible chargers and set your minimum and maximum states of charge when charging, your max speed, many other variables, even weather conditions. Projected weather could even be added automatically. Without showing at least charger locations, the Goggle update is pretty useless.
This is good news, though new nav settings not yet in my Gmaps. I do notice that Gmaps is now showing charging stations along a route if you ask it, and they now have details on the branding, types of chargers, power output, etc...
I just do a general search for EV chargers in the general area of the route, then specify the route and it offers up "EV Charging" along with options to show restaurants, hotels, things to do, etc... If you don't see EV charging, try the "More" button and search for EV charging in the "search along the route" box that appears on the left. Now that Google knows my interest in EV charging, it offers up charging with each route selection.
10% of vehicle sales does not equal 10% of vehicles on the road. And I want the fastest route. Make my car efficient to fit my driving style. If I have do take a slower route, the vehicle is pointless.
I just tested this..yes it gave me the option but didn't save the option...done a test route and instead of going in a straight line from my house it took me longer route lol 😂
health missing / Is there something wrong with you? It's the same meaning when applied to things. Recoup or recuperating money, energy, lost items, etc, means the same thing.
@@mikel4879 No, those two words do NOT mean the same thing. Notice that one has "coup" and the other has "cupe". Don't believe me? Simply look them both up in an online dictionary. "Recuperating" means to heal from an illness or injury. To "recoup" something means to get it back somehow, which is what Sam was alluding to regarding regenerative braking.
@@rp9674 Regenerative braking is a way to recoup energy instead of letting it be lost to the heat from braking... this is what Sam was referring to, except that he used the wrong word. He said "recuperating" instead of "recoup" or "recouping". That's all I was point out.
Wow...so more convoluted and longer routes to make sure there's a charger nearby. More power being used for the same journey. Yeah...sounds like EVs are really making us use LESS energy. Now we're using MORE, but at least the grid can handle it...right?
Did you even watch the video? The new feature finds the most efficient route, not the one with the most chargers or fastest. It already works this way for non-EVs, it finds the most efficient route, not the fastest. For both EVs and non-EVs, the standard behavior is unchanged. It finds the fastest, most direct route.
@@cerealspiller The most efficient route, IS the fastest (shortest) route! The only thing EV apps look for, is routes that go by CHARGERS. Otherwise, it's not an EV-specific feature, is it? Sometimes you have to slap people on the back of the head (figuratively) to get them to see either errors in logic or lines of bs that need to be called.
@@billcichoke2534 So given a choice of 2 routes for your EV, which one consumes the most energy: A) 100 mile straight shot on the freeway at a steady 75 mph or B) 100 miles on a secondary road, chock full of traffic signals and other traffic slowdowns, averaging 40 or 50 mph. Same question, for a standard internal combustion engine. Maybe you can explain what you call BS, since we can only assume that YOUR answer is the same route for both the EV and the non-EV, because "fastest".
@@cerealspiller False equation. The back roads are going to be longer than 100 miles, because if they were the same distance, YOU'D BE ON THE FREEWAY. Also, you're going to be using more energy to do those backroads and such, because you're running your other systems (heat/air con, radio/internet) for a longer time, creating the need and requiring at least one stop, ESPECIALLY in winter. Any other logical fallacy you want to throw out?
yep, Google should have bought ABRP but they let Rivian scoop them up. That was dumb. Google needs to be able to calculate when and where to charge like Tesla navigation.
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The engine type option isn’t available on my google maps app which is updated.
You said it last. What we like to see is the power stations along the route. This would be the ultimate upgrade to Google Maps.
In the UK and don't even see an option to prefer fuel efficient routes nevermind specify what engine type I have. Looks like it has some way to go before it competes with ABRP and zap-map so I will just wait.
When is this update coming? I just updated Google maps a few minutes ago and the EV option isn't there yet.
My app doesn’t have this option either.
I would have been impressed if google released an efficient route from charger to charger for best efficient trip planning, then the comparison with a better routeplanner would be more interesting and worthwhile to compare. Then we would only need one app. Instead of now dealing with multiple apps for efficient route planing and driving and charging (more work less efficient).
+1 Sam, the map needs to include charging stations along routes and nearby.
For me, start directions for your destination, pull up on the menu bar at the bottom, select “search along route”, type in “charging stations”. Would be nice as a default option for sure though.
ABRP (A Better Route Planner) already has charging station locations shown in the route, and you can even tell it what kind you prefer/have a membership with (Tesla SuperChargers, ChargePoint etc)
I've been hoping for this for a long time. It's especially useful for me, because my plug-in hybrid has an official range of only 53 miles, and this will make it easier not to burn gasoline.
My BEV has an unofficial freeway range close to that, so ditto
There's a huge difference between _route planning_ and simple routing with charger locations along the way. ABRP is currently superior to Google Maps in that it takes your particular EV into account, along with your preferences, such as quickest arrival, then actually plans your route, *as well as* suggests a charging strategy.
Since this video dropped a year ago, there's been zero progress shown by Google Maps to make the product more useful for true route planning.
Does not appear to be available in Canada 😡
That solution with the chsrgers It's already the mentioned a better route planner
For me here in Melbourne Australia it appears that the 'Settings > Navigation settings' option is not there for me.
There *IS* a 'Settings > Navigation > Route Options', but no 'Prefer fuel-efficient routes', or 'Engine type'.
There is also an 'Electric Vehicle Settings' under 'Account Settings', but it only allows you to select what plug types your vehicle can handle.
Anyone here in Melb got this working ?
Consider me enlightened!! Very informative, thanks for uploading.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It’s odd they haven’t done this for ages, particularly when their Android automotive offerings are in Volvo and Polestar EV’s where they include quite good route planning including charging station and battery on arrival.
Would be nice to have those functions on my phone or tablet to plan out a road trip, I guess it’s ABRP for now for that functionality.
It does not appear that the function is available in Denmark. Everything in Google is about fossil cars. If you can choose to see BEV chargers this far down the list, you only have a few brands with, for example, Tesla not included in the overview. Google is just so far behind on BEV. I love Google maps, but I hate that Google is so slow to follow up.
I hope they also add a feature that tells me BEFORE I need to turn & pull into a driveway to turn around instead of going 2 mi out of my way to correct course.
I'd like two efficiency level settings, a Max setting it takes surface streets & Min setting that avoids time saving backtracking, or less direct but faster freeways.
Google could work with Tesla. Google should add a feature for the customer to upload a file and mark pot holes, closed streets, other things. This could be for any customer, but Tesla FSD vehicles could start feeding this data to Tesla and they could build a combined file to distribute to the fleet. Following Musk's logic, these would all include an expire date. There would be multiple files for different geographic areas so you don't download updates for the whole country. Then when one vehicle sees a pot hole, others are warned. Google has only provided the interface, and is not responsible for data accuracy.
I think Teslas could automatically record potholes (every time a car hits one, sensors detect the shock and every Tesla that "finds" the same hole confirms suspected pothole. That info would be relayed back to the Mother Ship, similar to the way Google detects delays, average speeds at various times of day.
would be nice if it works in Oz one day. Perhaps we need more than 0.1% of vehicles as EV's before google spends effort on this in the antipodes...
To be real efficient just tap avoid highways. Going slower in an EV is always more efficient.
I just ran a comparison on a 1,300 mile trip from St. Louis, MO USA to Park City, UT
Google map is a joke
A Better Route Planner is comparable to the Tesla guidance in the Tesla and wins hands down
I don't even see charging stations on Google Maps and I've followed all the settings listed in this video.
not even close
Did you use it with an obd2 dongle? I am wondering if it's worth investing in one.
@@dgurevich1 Honestly I don't know what that is or does.
@@noleftturns obd2 scanner is used by mechanics to access the car's computer.
In EVs, it can read the battery state of charge, consumption history, etc...
Adding that capability to the route planner should make it a lot more accurate.
@@dgurevich1 I'll look into that - thank you.
5:55 Absolutly, not only the itinerary needs to determine the consumption, but the itinerary needs also to integrate the superchargers usage and location.
I have a Tesla and travelling is so easy, but during may last trip I decided to use the Electrify America CCS Supercharger network.
And it was really difficult to estimate which EA Supercharger I had to stop to, also preconditioning was not activated so charging was very slow.
Outstanding update for folks that use Google maps via Android Auto or Apple Carplay!
Glad to see GMaps implementing this.
I just drove down to Margaret river last week; the route was littered with EV chargers including super chargers which was nice compared to a few years ago.
Maybe useful for the Nullarbor or far North of Western Australia.
I will definitely be using goggle map if it’s on my phone. If it’s more fuel saving in EV s that is got to be great news.
People use other mapping software in a Tesla, based off of web browser... Why would google maps not work like this?
People don’t realize Tesla chargers a stream of income for company where a sale of a car is one time.
yep, Google should have bought ABRP but they let Rivian scoop them up. That was dumb. Google needs to be able to calculate when and where to charge like Tesla navigation.
Not available in Australia
Google Maps is useless unless you drive a Tesla. Virtually no non-Tesla DC charging sites are shown on my 1,400-mile route across the US.
My google maps does not have engine selection in nav settings. Just prefer fuel efficient routes on/off. Yes, I’ve updated, on android
Not seeing the option for engine type after selecting “prefer fuel-efficient routes”.
timing .just watched some guy in the U.K have range anxiety in his porche EV. He was using waze to find chargers unsuccessfully.his takeaway was not enough charges.Let the early adopters sort it out.
You're referring to the MacMaster I assume who is either totally clueless when it comes to trip planning or deliberately creating controversy for the clicks. I assume the latter given his love of clickbait titles.
@@AndysComputer yep that's him.just finished watching it the Viking appeared...timing..
Another option is PLUGSHARE, but when I enter Sydney as my destination from Melb, it AVOIDS Tesla SuperChargers (even thought it knows I have a Model Y. Weird. (And there's no way to force it to use superchargers either - well not that I could see anyway)...
Does Google map tell us where to charge on trip like on ABRP?
Do they show where the EV chargers are??
I have a Google pixel 6 Pro phone and I can't see the settings in Google maps. Is this still beta or unavailable in Australia?
This efficiency problem is actually the same with hybrids! so its not just evs benefiting.
Still not as good as the Tesla navigation for trips. The ability to see all the charge locations on the route and the percentage of battery you will have when you get there is perfect. Google should just buy a better route planner and take all their ideas and roll them into Google maps. Tesla cars are already have good EV nav features but non-Tesla EVs need to know where the WORKING chargers are on the route.
Why you show the Waze App, you are speaking about Google Maps
I still don't see any Engine Type setting in Google Maps (last updated Sept 12 on Android), maybe it's not in Canada just yet? Besides, an even more usefull feature would be a "Find nearest Fast Charger" button instead of the fossil "Find nearest Gas Station" option...
Apple teased tighter vehicle integration possibilities with iOS 16 and CarPlay. Hopefully this means eventually CarPlay should know what kind of vehicle you are driving and have access to state of charge and average efficiency numbers, which could be used in navigation apps like Apple Maps, Google Maps, ABRP.
At present it's not really good for a route planner. A Better Route Planner is better currently. But for short routes not needing charging stops it's good. But overall time is also important and I don't like having to go through cities. I generally hate stop and go traffic.
A Better Route Planner (ABRP) used to be a very straightforward way to plan a route based on your specific EV model, as you could see all the possible chargers and set your minimum and maximum states of charge when charging, your max speed, many other variables, even weather conditions. Projected weather could even be added automatically. Without showing at least charger locations, the Goggle update is pretty useless.
This is good news, though new nav settings not yet in my Gmaps. I do notice that Gmaps is now showing charging stations along a route if you ask it, and they now have details on the branding, types of chargers, power output, etc...
How do you ask it to show charging stations along the route?
I just do a general search for EV chargers in the general area of the route, then specify the route and it offers up "EV Charging" along with options to show restaurants, hotels, things to do, etc... If you don't see EV charging, try the "More" button and search for EV charging in the "search along the route" box that appears on the left. Now that Google knows my interest in EV charging, it offers up charging with each route selection.
@@cbrbird I found once the route starts for directions there is an option for “search along route” then you can enter “charging station”
10% of vehicle sales does not equal 10% of vehicles on the road.
And I want the fastest route. Make my car efficient to fit my driving style. If I have do take a slower route, the vehicle is pointless.
You can use the fastest route if you want. No one is forcing you to use the most efficient route
Tesla should include ABRP on their app so you can plan trips when not in the car.
For me a better route planner is the best for EV’s.
google does not plan the charging stops yet, not a real competitor for ABRP
I just tested this..yes it gave me the option but didn't save the option...done a test route and instead of going in a straight line from my house it took me longer route lol 😂
Apple map is a lot better for EV rout planning.
Love your videos, but it's not "recuperate" energy from braking... it's "recoup" energy from braking. :)
It's not recoup, it's regenerate
health missing / Is there something wrong with you?
It's the same meaning when applied to things.
Recoup or recuperating money, energy, lost items, etc, means the same thing.
@@mikel4879 No, those two words do NOT mean the same thing. Notice that one has "coup" and the other has "cupe". Don't believe me? Simply look them both up in an online dictionary. "Recuperating" means to heal from an illness or injury. To "recoup" something means to get it back somehow, which is what Sam was alluding to regarding regenerative braking.
@@rp9674 Regenerative braking is a way to recoup energy instead of letting it be lost to the heat from braking... this is what Sam was referring to, except that he used the wrong word. He said "recuperating" instead of "recoup" or "recouping". That's all I was point out.
Recoup and recuperating have the same meaning when they are about things.
Just look up in the dictionary and stop lying.
For crying out loud, stop saying 'gas' powered cars - you're Australian.
h101 / The words 'recoup' and 'recuperate' have the same meaning when they are about things. Just look up in a dictionary.
Stop lying.
Wow...so more convoluted and longer routes to make sure there's a charger nearby. More power being used for the same journey.
Yeah...sounds like EVs are really making us use LESS energy. Now we're using MORE, but at least the grid can handle it...right?
Did you even watch the video? The new feature finds the most efficient route, not the one with the most chargers or fastest. It already works this way for non-EVs, it finds the most efficient route, not the fastest. For both EVs and non-EVs, the standard behavior is unchanged. It finds the fastest, most direct route.
You watched the video and didn't understand a thing. LOL
@@cerealspiller The most efficient route, IS the fastest (shortest) route! The only thing EV apps look for, is routes that go by CHARGERS. Otherwise, it's not an EV-specific feature, is it?
Sometimes you have to slap people on the back of the head (figuratively) to get them to see either errors in logic or lines of bs that need to be called.
@@billcichoke2534 So given a choice of 2 routes for your EV, which one consumes the most energy: A) 100 mile straight shot on the freeway at a steady 75 mph or B) 100 miles on a secondary road, chock full of traffic signals and other traffic slowdowns, averaging 40 or 50 mph. Same question, for a standard internal combustion engine. Maybe you can explain what you call BS, since we can only assume that YOUR answer is the same route for both the EV and the non-EV, because "fastest".
@@cerealspiller False equation. The back roads are going to be longer than 100 miles, because if they were the same distance, YOU'D BE ON THE FREEWAY. Also, you're going to be using more energy to do those backroads and such, because you're running your other systems (heat/air con, radio/internet) for a longer time, creating the need and requiring at least one stop, ESPECIALLY in winter.
Any other logical fallacy you want to throw out?
yep, Google should have bought ABRP but they let Rivian scoop them up. That was dumb. Google needs to be able to calculate when and where to charge like Tesla navigation.