Thanks for the videos. I have to open up my Dads gearbox seeing that it only turns one way. Turn it the other way and the shaft turns out 🤷♂️ thanks again for your time!
Would have been good if you showed how it went together, with the marks lining up, for those of us who want to repair ours, that haven't done one at all.
Thanks for all the time you put this video together. I'm sure a lot of guys are nnow going to respect the steering box more and more like me. I'm afraid to touch that box and hope I never have to repair anything there, but the least I can do is grease it. For my 8N, do I use grease, or 90 W oil. I read somewhere and my notes say use Cornhead pourable high EP grease, another guy says to use 90 W oil. What's the real answer? Thanks again.....thumbs UP!
You are welcome. I figured I didn't have anything to loose with taking a shot at rebuilding mine. For the lubrication question, either should be fine since there's not a lot of motion going on in the steering box like a rear differential or axle. Cornhead grease is specially formulated for agricultural gearboxes in implements and supposedly maintains protection at temperature. It turns into a semi liquid when hot and then returns to a grease consistency when it cools down. At least that's what I gathered from my reading of it's properties. Figured that it'd protect my little steering box for as long as I'll have it.
There are alignment marks on the gears. Those have to be right. Another possibility is that the balls in the worm block aren't right. Don't know if you tore it down that far.
@@InquisiitorWH44K I took it back apart and jacked up the front to get the weight off the front end Then I pushed the Front wheels completely to the right and reassembled, now it’s working perfect I appreciate the comment/help I will most likely be back on here from time to time it’s got alot of little bugs , But overall I’m very satisfied with the tractor I feel like I got a great deal on it and about five pieces of equipment
Which side does each gear go on and what number is the tooth to align each gear together or do you just center the teeth? I took mine apart and forgot which side the shaft goes in to each other. How do you align the ball sterring gears on the shaft to the teeth on the two side shaft?
Great series! Have watched it twice. Bought a steering shaft, ( old one broke) I am not taking out the sector gears. The thought is they are already aligned with each other, I just need to align the Ball nut to the sector gears. What am I looking for with the shim seats. ( min. axial movement? Do I start by having the ball nut at the bottom of the ball screw? half way up? Any tribal knowledge on this would be great. Again thanks for the time spent on this.
Sorry to hear that yours broke. I think, getting the ball nut back onto the shaft with all of the bearings was the hardest part of the reassembly. My steering unit has over a quarter of turn slop before the rebuild. Got it down to pretty much nothing by adjusting the sectors. The shop manual was pretty helpful with rebuild. Those little ball bearings can be a pain. Make sure you don't loose any. As far as where to start the ball nut I think it was half way up but it seemed that part was pretty easy to get back together. It was getting the ball nut back on the steering shaft that was the pain. Good luck!
@@InquisiitorWH44K Thanks for the info. We bought the assembly ( steering shaft and assembly) Thinking the ball nut half way up would be the center of the steering Also got copies from the IT manual on adjusting the sectors. Bought the seals and felt dust washers for the Pittman arms. Expect to get this back in business before the end of the month. Hey, again my thanks for putting these videos together.
@@InquisiitorWH44K Thanks ! Kevin for this vid. series , i'm looking at possibly my first tractor , 8n , purchase , but steering is really bad . My question -- the shop manual you refer to in the above comment that was helpful in the rebuild , could you tell me the name of it & where you got it , and any other ones you needed / used . Thanks in advance for your time -- Cyril
Didn't use gear oil. Went down to the local John Deere dealer and got some of the green corn head grease and packed it full. It's a specially formulated grease for gear boxes.
Thanks for the videos. I have to open up my Dads gearbox seeing that it only turns one way. Turn it the other way and the shaft turns out 🤷♂️ thanks again for your time!
Would have been good if you showed how it went together, with the marks lining up, for those of us who want to repair ours, that haven't done one at all.
Does the shaft have to be lunges up maybe halfway when you put it in.... like in a certain position with the tires ??
Could you tell me when you bought the rebuild kit thank you
💪 Thanks
Thanks for all the time you put this video together. I'm sure a lot of guys are nnow going to respect the steering box more and more like me. I'm afraid to touch that box and hope I never have to repair anything there, but the least I can do is grease it. For my 8N, do I use grease, or 90 W oil. I read somewhere and my notes say use Cornhead pourable high EP grease, another guy says to use 90 W oil. What's the real answer? Thanks again.....thumbs UP!
You are welcome. I figured I didn't have anything to loose with taking a shot at rebuilding mine. For the lubrication question, either should be fine since there's not a lot of motion going on in the steering box like a rear differential or axle. Cornhead grease is specially formulated for agricultural gearboxes in implements and supposedly maintains protection at temperature. It turns into a semi liquid when hot and then returns to a grease consistency when it cools down. At least that's what I gathered from my reading of it's properties. Figured that it'd protect my little steering box for as long as I'll have it.
Good job
How do you check it for the fluid level
Kevin zeitz Great link Man helped a lot, thanks
Sooooo, I sat throught the most painful youtube video to find out how you adjust the wormgear. Thanks for wasting my time dude.
Was that the fourth valley of the gears? which side of the valley to make sure the gears align to the right side?
I put mine back together, can only turn left, how can I remedy this ?
Thanks
There are alignment marks on the gears. Those have to be right. Another possibility is that the balls in the worm block aren't right. Don't know if you tore it down that far.
@@InquisiitorWH44K
I took it back apart and jacked up the front to get the weight off the front end
Then I pushed the
Front wheels completely to the right and reassembled, now it’s working perfect
I appreciate the comment/help
I will most likely be back on here from time to time it’s got alot of little bugs , But overall I’m very satisfied with the tractor I feel like I got a great deal on it and about five pieces of equipment
Which side does each gear go on and what number is the tooth to align each gear together or do you just center the teeth? I took mine apart and forgot which side the shaft goes in to each other. How do you align the ball sterring gears on the shaft to the teeth on the two side shaft?
Check this PDF out. It's what I used. Pretty much has everything needed. www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/pdfs/Steering-Box-Late-8N-Steering-Rebuild.pdf
Great series! Have watched it twice. Bought a steering shaft, ( old one broke) I am not taking out the sector gears. The thought is they are already aligned with each other, I just need to align the Ball nut to the sector gears. What am I looking for with the shim seats. ( min. axial movement? Do I start by having the ball nut at the bottom of the ball screw? half way up? Any tribal knowledge on this would be great. Again thanks for the time spent on this.
Sorry to hear that yours broke. I think, getting the ball nut back onto the shaft with all of the bearings was the hardest part of the reassembly. My steering unit has over a quarter of turn slop before the rebuild. Got it down to pretty much nothing by adjusting the sectors. The shop manual was pretty helpful with rebuild. Those little ball bearings can be a pain. Make sure you don't loose any. As far as where to start the ball nut I think it was half way up but it seemed that part was pretty easy to get back together. It was getting the ball nut back on the steering shaft that was the pain. Good luck!
@@InquisiitorWH44K Thanks for the info. We bought the assembly ( steering shaft and assembly) Thinking the ball nut half way up would be the center of the steering Also got copies from the IT manual on adjusting the sectors. Bought the seals and felt dust washers for the Pittman arms. Expect to get this back in business before the end of the month. Hey, again my thanks for putting these videos together.
@@InquisiitorWH44K Thanks ! Kevin for this vid. series , i'm looking at possibly my first tractor , 8n , purchase , but steering is really bad . My question -- the shop manual you refer to in the above comment that was helpful in the rebuild , could you tell me the name of it & where you got it , and any other ones you needed / used . Thanks in advance for your time -- Cyril
@@cyrilbrun8764 I've got the I&T shop manual. But you should be able to just do a search for 8n Shop Manual and get what you need.
Nice and informative video series! Where did you get all your rebuild parts from? I seen the packages on video 2, but couldn't really read them.
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Great series! How much gear oil did you use?
Thanks!
Didn't use gear oil. Went down to the local John Deere dealer and got some of the green corn head grease and packed it full. It's a specially formulated grease for gear boxes.