I like that he shows some details that I was doubting about, like shipping costs, some tell they are free for the first order, my country wasn't listed but now I can imagine. @Alex yes, me too, just love electronics especially quality pcb's, pure porn, I need hundrets to take a bath in them like Dagobert Duck in his money xD 😂
honestly, used JLCPCB twice. Never had bad results, cost me $20 both times, both times got the boards a week after ordering. i just go from breadboard to pcb and buy the parts of digikey. Considering that most american pcb houses want an arm and a leg to get a pcb to me within the month i'm loving jlcpcb
Because there is a minimum width the solder mask can have, otherwise it can peel off etc. So if the pads are close, it's better to just omit the soldermask between them. It's not that a problem actually (Although more expensive fans are able to make the solder mask even between very close pins).
Do you know when we ask for a panel, if the stencil would also match the panel or only the circuit being panelized ? That could be super convenient if they could match the stencil with the panel too !
Today is not hard too 'make' pcb, just send file and done. But i love too make PCB alone, i'm using photoresist dry film. Results is not bad and protect it with solder mask. I'm more satisfied if make it myself, and always can learn something new.
For me the “charm” is the turnaround time. Even if you're willing to pay absurd amounts to have your PCB manufactured and delivered, you can't really get bellow 2 days. I can make a PCB at home in an hour (including soldermask) or even less if I really needed to. I can go from an idea to a working prototype in a couple of hours, not days.
What happened with that black silkscreen? It's clear the white silkscreen is screen printed, but the black one is inkjet, but why is the design printed at an angle and then showing the bad resolution of the printer?
Nice production of the video, love the music :) Btw, what kind of soldering flux do you use for smd soldering, Androkavo? Can you please put direct link to seller from which you are buying it? Ebay is full of low quality fakes... :(
Mechanic MCN-UV80 or UV50 (different weigh), i buy at local market, they not have link :( you can try on aliexpress : goo.gl/zSSyHd i not sure fake or not, just buy from seller have best vote, good luck to you
@@Androkavo Yes... I find best or high vote an indication of quality. A good rep = more sales, so the legit sellers do their best to only sell quality products.
If your software gives the hole sizes as the final finished size you must make that clear to them. Otherwise the holes are drilled at that size and after plating they are too small. Once that is clear, they compensate for the plating thickness and all goes well. Recommended
0:41 WHY ?? u dot use MAXimum area GND in PCB like headsink? And thin lines (in PCB) is like resistors (making heat) (better is 3x wide lines (only solder pads (mayby wo paint is only thin, like chip legs, but better is, if right and left solder pad is 2x wide and center is 2x thin/down solderpad (& solder pasta/flux never too much used (better result)) ).
Only the standard lead green pcb has soldermask between the fine pitch qfp. I mean I would be mad to pay for ENIG and custom color PCB only to get a lower quality product than standard lead HASL!
i got answer from support of jlcpcb, maybe help you to clear "The soldermask bridge is usually made by random if our customers didn't remark to do the soldermask bridge for IC. In other words, sometimes the soldermask bridge will be applied , sometimes not. That's why there is no soldermask between pads on the blue board"
JLCPCB is one of the cheapest and yet highest quality PCB manufacturer. If you are making a prototype, the minimum of 5 boards is like a maximum - it is actually good if you tend to screw things up. However, it always costs some material loss. Prototyping isn't actually thing to order PCB for. Very first prototype is good to make in home environment. First with breadboard if possible, then first PCB prototype printed and etched fully home. It's better to prototype first full THT PCB, then if it works, you may of course redesign it for professional manufacturing in China. First order of 5 pieces is way enough to test it out. Make necessary changes, and final design can be now ordered to be more than 5 pieces therefore.
Or just use photoresist method at home and make 0.1 mm traces in minutes. You don't get solder mask or plated holes, but I don't care about those in my own designs which won't be sold.
Pause at 1:57 Nice comparison. More and more people order from them. Hopefully they wont increase the price. Its cheap and good quality. But for one project 5 or 10 pcbs is too much. You use 1 and the rest are useless. You will never use them unless you make many copies of the device and sell them. If you dont sell, then these 4 or 9 boards will just collect dust and you will throw them away.
A set of PCB fabricated by Jlcpcb is complete useless. They have not made inter layer connections for the vias. Also they are not responding to the complaint lodged with then. You will get good PCB if you are lucky.
All fake. I have ordered samples pcb and paid 32 euros. DHL is calling me and informed me that in order to get my parcel from Jlcpcb I need to pay them 50 euros plus customs charges. What the f*. Never again. Black listed.
WARNING JLCPCB has a very very bad service, i have order in total 5 project and only recieved 3 of those, the 2 missing NO REFUND ANDNO HELP solving it thay just say just reorder it (with again paying for it)
careful with jlcpcb. My bank account was hacked from using jlcpcb. They stole over 500$ from me. chances are that they are stealing your pcb designs as well. DO NOT TRUST CHINA!!!
I'm not in a market for PCBs but basically watched an 18 minute ad. Well done sir, soothing video.
Me neither but i loved that Blue, Gold PCB. Looks so beautiful... I need one...
Me too.
I like that he shows some details that I was doubting about, like shipping costs, some tell they are free for the first order, my country wasn't listed but now I can imagine.
@Alex yes, me too, just love electronics especially quality pcb's, pure porn, I need hundrets to take a bath in them like Dagobert Duck in his money xD 😂
me t00. let me join you.!
This is a new genre of reviews. You microscoped the free pen!
Your video solved many doubts I had regarding the ordering process. Thank you! You should really be sponsored by JLC ❤️
It was great that you explained all the PCB specifications. I didn't know all of them.
honestly, used JLCPCB twice. Never had bad results, cost me $20 both times, both times got the boards a week after ordering. i just go from breadboard to pcb and buy the parts of digikey. Considering that most american pcb houses want an arm and a leg to get a pcb to me within the month i'm loving jlcpcb
This is a golden age for home pcb generation.
11:35 - I notice no solder mask between pads. Was that intentional?
That's the clearance to the solder pad ruled in the designing software.
5:25
Why there is no solder mask between the pads?
Because there is a minimum width the solder mask can have, otherwise it can peel off etc. So if the pads are close, it's better to just omit the soldermask between them. It's not that a problem actually (Although more expensive fans are able to make the solder mask even between very close pins).
Do you know when we ask for a panel, if the stencil would also match the panel or only the circuit being panelized ? That could be super convenient if they could match the stencil with the panel too !
The music on your video has helped me to sleep more soundly.
your knowledge with soldering and pcbs made me subscribe tjis channel
Today is not hard too 'make' pcb, just send file and done. But i love too make PCB alone, i'm using photoresist dry film. Results is not bad and protect it with solder mask. I'm more satisfied if make it myself, and always can learn something new.
That is very true. You'll not get the same quality doing it at home, but it certainly got its own charm.
For me the “charm” is the turnaround time. Even if you're willing to pay absurd amounts to have your PCB manufactured and delivered, you can't really get bellow 2 days. I can make a PCB at home in an hour (including soldermask) or even less if I really needed to.
I can go from an idea to a working prototype in a couple of hours, not days.
Also you get it done much quicker than waiting for delivery.
This is a very educational video!
What happened with that black silkscreen? It's clear the white silkscreen is screen printed, but the black one is inkjet, but why is the design printed at an angle and then showing the bad resolution of the printer?
15:00 What other manufacturers do you mean?
Amazing Video, will place my first order tomorrow!
What type of microscope do you use?
Very well done both you and JLCPCB. What microscope did you use?
Nice production of the video, love the music :) Btw, what kind of soldering flux do you use for smd soldering, Androkavo? Can you please put direct link to seller from which you are buying it? Ebay is full of low quality fakes... :(
Mechanic MCN-UV80 or UV50 (different weigh), i buy at local market, they not have link :(
you can try on aliexpress : goo.gl/zSSyHd
i not sure fake or not, just buy from seller have best vote, good luck to you
I'll try, thanks a lot.
@@Androkavo Yes... I find best or high vote an indication of quality. A good rep = more sales, so the legit sellers do their best to only sell quality products.
If your software gives the hole sizes as the final finished size you must make that clear to them. Otherwise the holes are drilled at that size and after plating they are too small.
Once that is clear, they compensate for the plating thickness and all goes well. Recommended
What software do you use for the Design of the PCB ?
please, talk about best softwares for pcb....
0:41 WHY ?? u dot use MAXimum area GND in PCB like headsink? And thin lines (in PCB) is like resistors (making heat) (better is 3x wide lines (only solder pads (mayby wo paint is only thin, like chip legs, but better is, if right and left solder pad is 2x wide and center is 2x thin/down solderpad (& solder pasta/flux never too much used (better result)) ).
is it possible to print a flexible types in this site
pls tell the name of the first song used in this video!
best jlpcb orderung tutorial
really it's a great video, thank you a lot!
What microscope or macro lens do you use?
microscope Andonstar ADSM201
Thanks
Excellent video! Thanks
Thanks
I love you 😘
The video was so amazing
Where are you from?
Only the standard lead green pcb has soldermask between the fine pitch qfp. I mean I would be mad to pay for ENIG and custom color PCB only to get a lower quality product than standard lead HASL!
i got answer from support of jlcpcb, maybe help you to clear
"The soldermask bridge is usually made by random if our customers didn't remark to do the soldermask bridge for IC. In other words, sometimes the soldermask bridge will be applied , sometimes not. That's why there is no soldermask between pads on the blue board"
So 2$ + 7$ for economic shipping?
Name of the music? ( 15:51 )
beneath the moonlight
JLCPCB is one of the cheapest and yet highest quality PCB manufacturer. If you are making a prototype, the minimum of 5 boards is like a maximum - it is actually good if you tend to screw things up. However, it always costs some material loss. Prototyping isn't actually thing to order PCB for. Very first prototype is good to make in home environment. First with breadboard if possible, then first PCB prototype printed and etched fully home. It's better to prototype first full THT PCB, then if it works, you may of course redesign it for professional manufacturing in China. First order of 5 pieces is way enough to test it out. Make necessary changes, and final design can be now ordered to be more than 5 pieces therefore.
Nice video
good
What is the music title / author ?
That was hypnotic..
how did you tent those vias?
i did it by increase limit field for higher hole diameter of vias (DRC -> Masks -> Limit field)
this setting for Eagle, not sure for other software
I just did it, awesome.
song please 0:08
wigs - riot
what's the name of this song ?
I get it that you are promoting them, but come on, those pcb you made to prove your point were just zero effort.
Great music!
Soothing.
Meu parabéns excelente video
Wellington Miyake si
15:00 It's very questionable test. You can use good solder or don't scratch it so much.
Or just use photoresist method at home and make 0.1 mm traces in minutes. You don't get solder mask or plated holes, but I don't care about those in my own designs which won't be sold.
1:53 this looks like willingly Done
Pause at 1:57
Nice comparison. More and more people order from them.
Hopefully they wont increase the price.
Its cheap and good quality. But for one project 5 or 10 pcbs is too much.
You use 1 and the rest are useless. You will never use them unless you make many copies of the device and sell them.
If you dont sell, then these 4 or 9 boards will just collect dust and you will throw them away.
Dont use sandpaper for cleaning ink. Use alcohol for this. For cleanin copper before etching you can use HCL.
At most, you can use one of those sponges with the green abrasive pad on the back.
Richard Smith yes
first music name pls
wigs - riot
Superior é aquele que ama o que faz.
SUPERGOOD!!!
perfect
Teach us please how can we make :
1- solder mask at home
2- stencil for pcbs at home
,please.
joseph shokry lol why would they do that!
I guess you'd need a cnc router for a stencil.
whole order+registered mail for $8, small and affordable way for a hobbyist
Très satisfaisant
Good
Wow!!! that's a lot of plastic bags 09:45
A set of PCB fabricated by Jlcpcb is complete useless. They have not made inter layer connections for the vias.
Also they are not responding to the complaint lodged with then.
You will get good PCB if you are lucky.
good.
Cómo se llama la musica
10:14: order 5 pcs and received 6,haha
They send everyone an extra... Maybe for practice purpose...
Solder mask color not green will not increase price now!
There's no need to speak,
if someone know... how to make VIDEO ♥ love it ♥
All fake. I have ordered samples pcb and paid 32 euros. DHL is calling me and informed me that in order to get my parcel from Jlcpcb I need to pay them 50 euros plus customs charges. What the f*. Never again. Black listed.
Where did you ship it to?
omg the fucking music!
ЛУТ можно в 100 раз качественее сделать. Размазню показушную развели.
WARNING JLCPCB has a very very bad service, i have order in total 5 project and only recieved 3 of those, the 2 missing NO REFUND ANDNO HELP solving it thay just say just reorder it (with again paying for it)
中国制造好东西来的
很高兴看到中文评论
18minute ad
you can make a religion out of this.
嘉立创? 滑稽
FIRST
TO SAY FIRST!
careful with jlcpcb. My bank account was hacked from using jlcpcb. They stole over 500$ from me. chances are that they are stealing your pcb designs as well. DO NOT TRUST CHINA!!!