So lucky to have this while Toreando pass was taught in my academy. Very detailed and supplement to the traditional way, I always find myself on my knee too early before finishing the pass.
I'm really grateful to you for sharing your expertise. I'm old and a slow learner of this stuff. I appreciate your clear methodical exposition. Oss. Keeping 2:51 pictured in my mind's eye is useful: shuck with left hand and drive shoulder in.
Great video Jon I have gotten quite a knack for the torreando, just like my idol leandro lo 🥶 But I was wondering what your methodology was when your opponent sits up vertically on the ground. Theres a guy in the class that does this and sometimes i try and grab his ankles and dump him on his back, but because hes sitting up he can get great grips higher up on my lapel or sleeves which nullifies me
I think in those cases I generally start setting up knee cuts or driving them to their back, you can’t always force the Toreando. I actually have a good video discussing how to approach when your opponent is sitting up
Love your videos. However, I've noticed kind of a gap in all the torreando tutorials I've watched online. How exactly do you get to the starting position of having someone fully on their back with no grips on you? Do people just go into this position willingly? I don't think I've ever seen tutorials about starting from this position.
K, I’m a white belt, so take this with a grain of salt lmao to answer your second question first, yes I’ve seen people willingly get down and scoot their butt like a dog to try and find an opening to pull guard…it’s annoying to train with personally. I’ve also had people grab my lapel and put their foot on my hip to pull guard, but I break their grip before they fully pull the guard, so they end up defending from their back. Last one I’ve experienced is someone having closed guard on me and I stand up and break the closed guard. Again, white belt, but just trying to explain what I’ve experienced so far. Hope it helps
@@brandonwaddell2583 Hey thanks for the reply. I'm actually a purple belt, but I started decades ago and came back to the game recently and it's totally different. Anyways, I've since figured it out. There's the stuff you mentioned and also, I've learned to force the position by crowding and pushing people who start on their butts or by grabbing their arm 2 on 1 and starting to run to their back, forcing them to lay back to defend it.
@@brandonwaddell2583 It's weird that bjj teachers don't explain this stuff in class. They always start teaching a move from some random position and nobody new has any idea how to get to that position.
I have a question that I think can help a lot of people. I have a recording of me rolling to show what the issue is and I’m look for some solutions. I can send you a clip with the question. @jon thomas
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So lucky to have this while Toreando pass was taught in my academy. Very detailed and supplement to the traditional way, I always find myself on my knee too early before finishing the pass.
Can't believe this is free. Super comprehensive
Thank you!!! Will try this out in class next week
Hope it goes well
I'm really grateful to you for sharing your expertise. I'm old and a slow learner of this stuff. I appreciate your clear methodical exposition. Oss. Keeping 2:51 pictured in my mind's eye is useful: shuck with left hand and drive shoulder in.
The Leando Lo footage is definitely bittersweet. RIP
For sure, won’t be same without him
Super clear and well-explained concepts, as always! Great info covered here!
The angle drop at 6:53 is slick
It is time for this channel to post some rounds. You should post you rolling 6 x 8 minute rounds showing some of this technique in action.
Great video Jon!
Thanks so much
FYI, I’m going to be pushing hard for you to get Best Teacher on the r/Bjj poll that’s going on right now.
Great video Jon
I have gotten quite a knack for the torreando, just like my idol leandro lo 🥶
But I was wondering what your methodology was when your opponent sits up vertically on the ground. Theres a guy in the class that does this and sometimes i try and grab his ankles and dump him on his back, but because hes sitting up he can get great grips higher up on my lapel or sleeves which nullifies me
I think in those cases I generally start setting up knee cuts or driving them to their back, you can’t always force the Toreando. I actually have a good video discussing how to approach when your opponent is sitting up
7:38 pass
9:16 pass
oh my god!!!
Love your videos. However, I've noticed kind of a gap in all the torreando tutorials I've watched online. How exactly do you get to the starting position of having someone fully on their back with no grips on you? Do people just go into this position willingly? I don't think I've ever seen tutorials about starting from this position.
K, I’m a white belt, so take this with a grain of salt lmao to answer your second question first, yes I’ve seen people willingly get down and scoot their butt like a dog to try and find an opening to pull guard…it’s annoying to train with personally. I’ve also had people grab my lapel and put their foot on my hip to pull guard, but I break their grip before they fully pull the guard, so they end up defending from their back. Last one I’ve experienced is someone having closed guard on me and I stand up and break the closed guard. Again, white belt, but just trying to explain what I’ve experienced so far. Hope it helps
@@brandonwaddell2583 Hey thanks for the reply. I'm actually a purple belt, but I started decades ago and came back to the game recently and it's totally different. Anyways, I've since figured it out. There's the stuff you mentioned and also, I've learned to force the position by crowding and pushing people who start on their butts or by grabbing their arm 2 on 1 and starting to run to their back, forcing them to lay back to defend it.
@@stepheninczech glad you figured it out, and thanks for the tip!
@@brandonwaddell2583 It's weird that bjj teachers don't explain this stuff in class. They always start teaching a move from some random position and nobody new has any idea how to get to that position.
@@stepheninczech I can agree, but its def worth drilling the positions so it becomes second nature when you end up in them
first
Thanks buddy!
I have a question that I think can help a lot of people. I have a recording of me rolling to show what the issue is and I’m look for some solutions. I can send you a clip with the question. @jon thomas