EP:3B Ducati Multistrada Rear Brake problem, Brembo CC pads & Brake Fluid Change
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- Ducati Multistrada rear brakes, maintenance, common problems and Brembo brake pads CC compounds, and Lucas MCB700 Pads, brake fluid types and rear brake pedal adjustment.
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The Multistrada does have several brake problems, mostly related to Heat from the exhaust, we will look at this, along with changing the brake fluid and the types of brake fluid you can use, and which Brembo brake pad compound you might fit. This is the fourth video in a series about buying and ownership of a Ducati Multistrada and my personal long-term experience over 3 years and 20,000 km.
If you are going to service your callipers, below is the piston lubrication product you must use:
Remember, 1 x tube will last you a lifetime.... This is the product i have used for many years. Also... below are the links to purchase the two main Brembo Pads (SA and LA and Rear CC) That I mention in this episode; most are available on Amazon at a very good price: Just click on the link below…
If you live in Europe....
Lubrication for pistons during calliper service: amzn.to/3E7E68D
Pads for Brembo Calipers :
Brembo 07BB19LA (Full Bike Set for Front & Rear CC): amzn.to/3fzXO2G
Brembo 07BB19SA (Front set 2 pairs): amzn.to/3Rv2JiN
If you live in the United Kingdom....
Lubrication for pistons during calliper service: amzn.to/3e02QFi
Pads for Brembo Calipers :
Brembo 07BB19LA (Full Bike Set for Front & Rear CC): amzn.to/3RojImQ
Brembo 07BB19SA (Full Bike Set for Front & Rear CC): amzn.to/3LXCwrX
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Great series Carl, heaps of knowledge and information.
Thank you 👍
The monsters have the trouble with the brakes too. The rear brake line crosses under the rear cylinder exhaust pipe. The fluid boils and it’s hard on the brake line. A recall is out to replace the line and add more heat shielding. Before the recall, I fixed it with more heat shielding and Castrol SRF. The Castrol isn’t a glycol ester like other brake fluids, it’s a silicone ester. That makes it much less hydrophilic so it pulls in less water. Its dry boiling point is about 620 f and wet 580 f. Less water means less corrosion and helps save your expensive brake components. Before adding heat shielding and changing the fluid to Castrol, the rear brake would make it a couple months before failing. Now it doesn’t fail. I also made a bracket that bolts onto the swing arm that allows the caliper to mount upside down with the bleeder up, making bleeding much easier.
Hi Scott, thank you for sharing this information with the channel members, indeed SRF is the way to go to make a big improvement to the brakes in general and especially the rear.
The other thing is to de- mount the rear caliper during the bleeding of the rear brakes and get it up high so the air within the line has a better chance to escape.
Ideally get it up high and leave it there overnight 👍
Some of the better dealerships do this anyway, some not.
Thank you for sharing your experience with your Monster 🙏
Best wishes Carl
Very good video. I don’t even have a Multistrada (I drive a 2011 gs), but it’s a pleasure to watch someone who knows what they’re talking about. Keep up good work 🙂🙂🙂
Hello Zulluchief, thank you for the compliment. I think you might be interested as a GS owner, in the next few episodes...smile. We have an even older GS in our bike club and it still goes on all our motorbike tours. Thanks again Carl
Hey Carl - a really invaluable series of videos you're making here I think. I've had a 2013 Multi 1200s Touring since 2019, and have been through a lot of the ownership experiences but without being a time-served technician like you, so I wasn't able to think my way through gripes as well as you have. As always, really appreciate what you've made here.
Hi SS, thank you. I presume you have been problem free with your Multistrada?. What tyres do you currently run ?
Carl
@@justthewayitis I had a few teething troubles.
Spongy brakes (not just the back brake), weeping fork seals, back wheel gravel guard stripping the thread on one mounting point, stickiness in the throttle travel, excessive wobbliness on the number plate/indicator assembly, persistent misfire, seized exhaust mounting bolts. I've probably forgot a few other issues, but really it doesn't matter because of how otherworldly stupendously brilliant the bike is when it's running well.
Currently on Michelin Road 5s. Previously had PR4 GTs - these were horrible, way too stiff for the weight of the bike, but they were on it when I bought it, and Metzeler Roadtec 01s, which I thought were fantastic until I got the Road 5s. The Road 5s are so much better than any tyres I've ever had on any bike it's unreal. Amazing comfort, seemingly endless grip in the dry, and rock solid stability when leaned over. I think the tyre profile really suits the Multi well, as the usual rounder profile of sport touring tyres makes the steering lighter, and the huge leverage available due to wide bars of the Multi meant the steering always felt a bit nervous and prone to overcorrection.
Hi SS thankyou for sharing your experience with different tyres, it will other users have plentiful choice of which to fit. And I agree ... without the problems... it's a great bike. Carl
Great information 👍🏽
Hi Carl, thank you.
Very informative 👍 thank you I’ve a 2012 with 75thousand miles on it 😁
Hi David, thank you, glad to hear yours is still running strong, they are lovely bikes and it's still the best bike I have ever owned in terms of smiles and fun. Kindest regards Carl
Same problem on my Supersport939 2018. Thanks so much for the explanetion about the kind of oil to use. Hope to solve it
Hi Luca, thank you, and i hope you sort out your problem. Best wishes carl
Very interesting.
Thank you 👍
A suggestion to inserting a spacer between the brake pads on a caliper, like the rear, insert an extra brake pad to act as the rotor. Agree with the best brake fluid.
Good suggestion.
Well after 30,000 miles plus on 2 Multistrada’s I never realised they had a back brake LOL, just had my current bike Desmo serviced and brake pads/fluids etc and now on the front it’s again one finger braking 👍
When working correctly the brakes are very very good....and with a simple pad change things can be improved again. 👍😏
Hi Carl , your videos are great and I appreciate the clear and precise instructions .
Next mission for you is ' how to get brakes on a V4' . My bike has virtually no rear and the front are ordinary to say the least . 330mm rotors with M50 should be good .
4 mth old bike . Big dissapointment as my DS1100 MTS will out brake it .
Hi Andrew and good morning. If you have watched the multistrada episodes about brakes and brake pad choice you will know how to tackle the problem. First is to make absolutely sure there is no contamination on the discs and the pads by cleaning both. Then test your V4 again, if things are still not great then a change of front pads might help. To be honest I have been on 2 different road tests on the V4S and the brakes felt good on both occasions... maybe it is a good clean they need. Let me know how you get on. It really is worth the time to check and clean. Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl , yes I have seen your brake video . The bike is only 4 months old and I am very particular with rotor clean etc. Will try new pads to start with , SR In the front maybe and the rear with an 86 coefficient rating . The main problem is there is just no 'bite' .
From the forum talk others are having same issues . Cheers .
Hi Andrew, ok thanks for answering, I was not aware other owners have reported the same issue. Perhaps once you have installed a different front brake pad and it works...you can let other users know here.
Do I understand you correctly... the performance does not improve when the brakes get hot ?
It remains constantly poor cold and hot ?
Carl
@@justthewayitis Yes , no braking power hot or cold . I am off to see a Brembo specialist tomorrow and see what he comes up with and will keep in touch . Thank you for your interest in this . 😉
Good luck tomorrow, I hope he can help you it might just be a change of pads. Fingers crossed 👍
Interesting tip on the rear pads -thanks. I'm also thinking of putting on a wavy rear disc to shed dirt etc.. My bike is 10 year old and probably time for a new component. Have you had experience with this type of disc?
A good quality wavy disc would probably work well on the rear. Have you measured the thickness of the rear disc?
If you look closely on the rear disc you should see the minimum stamped on there.
I think the 2010 to 2018 rear disc is 6mm from new.
@@justthewayitis I really appreciate you getting back to me on this, and your vids are really helpful. On these single side swingarms, I think the technique of hanging the caliper up for 24 hours, is great. I'll probably also tap things periodically.
The rear disc is 5mm with a minimum of 4.5. Galfer seems to be the big wavy people.
The rear system has been through a lot - and has never been very good, but I'm hoping a few new parts, and careful systematic adjustment, will make it a genuinely useable system.
Let me know how your rear brake project goes once you’ve finished ✔️. Don’t also forget to check and adjust the brake pedal mechanism 👌
Best wishes Carl
Thanks Carl, great video and at last the real reasons why the multistrada rear brakes are often not great.
Just wondering if using a small vacuum bleeder on the rear would negate the need to remove and raise the rear caliper when changing fluids ?
Thanks Nick
Hi Nick, I tried this also, sadly it didn’t work, only hanging the caliper up high overnight did the trick. After that it’s regular bleeding and better fluid
Best wishes Carl
Many thanks for saving me trying and failing and for the quick reply. I’ll do it as you recommend.
Thanks Nick
No problem 😉
Castrol React SRF racing break fluid it's expensive but will take those extreme temperatures from the cadillac converter 😁
Hi Tom, yes it’s definitely worth it 🙋🏻♂️👍
@@justthewayitis I'm in Alberta Canada it's $120 per liter
@@justthewayitis working on my 2011 that back break buddy is enough to just gear down hard lol
@tomhinch5760 🙋🏻♂️😀
@tomhinch5760 omg ! That’s a lot 🫣
The Aprilia RSV 1000 always had the same rear brake problems... Unbelievable those two brands don't put their heads together to solve these problems once and for all...
Hi Chief, yes I totally agree with you. But a little bit of maintenance can improve they slightly. Best wishes Carl
I also think with the 1260S your going to be the best they made and most reliable...👍your wife is going to be very comfortable on the back and if you get a top box... its brilliant for the passenger to relax a bit more. My wife has been very happy. Carl
@@justthewayitis My wife rides all my bikes herself... ;) The top case will be helpfull if I (we) take our teenage kids on the back though. I have watched many video's of the KTM Super Duke GT aswell... Very, very big competitor if you ask me (and more reliable...) What are your thoughts?
Lol... my thoughts are honestly very simple, having riden the 1290GT twice I know I would lose my license within 6 months. Lol... that and the comfort is missing on the GT. Otherwise it is a great bike. Carl
@@justthewayitis Interesting. Thanks! 👍
does air get trapped at the abs pump?
Normally no it doesn't, I've not had that problem. Carl