i live in alaska and the hrv is my daily, it does fairly deep snow very frequently along with sand and gravel with little issues thus far. also has a great interior layout, all the seats will go full flat and hold pretty much every thing not to mention good mpg. been a home run for me thus far especially in snow
Drove my wife's 2016 HRV to Colorado and back. We went skiing during a snowstorm and never gave me problems, we were up and going trough the mountain roads before the snow plows. I'll never sell this vehicle! Great milage, reliable as hell and will take you to most places you want to go. A good ol' parter for the road.
I drove my wife's 2016 HR-V over similar sized rocks on forest service roads without the drama portrayed in this video. It's not a Wrangler and it's definitely not designed for rough terrain, but it did better than I expected over rocks.
Right? He was a little dramatic with it. And he stopped when he should of just went on the rocks. The car is good for what it is. I have one and its so much more then what these reviewers make it to be. I have a 2018 HR-V AWD and its been great in the snow and back roads. The acceleration is plenty, its not a sports racer. Its a practical vehicle that does everything but at a leisure pace. Its good on the highway, even if it has the CVT, its good. For what its worth, I'd not take this into a real mountainous trail. Its not built for it so why test it there where its at a disadvantage. Rocky back roads, rain, sleet and snow are fine.
@@twodayhero5139 I'm coming from a 2002 LX AWD CRV (automatic, 2.4L 4 cylinder, 160hp apparently). I live near some 75mph highways with pitifully short on-ramps. Do you think the HRV is okay for accelerations like that? I'm wondering if I should find something with a turbo engine
Actually thought it was well done and helped manage expectations. The wheel spin and braking and viewing the undercarriage was cool to see. HP and wheel clearance makes a big deal.
A whole drama production! These cars do so well in the Caribbean and most of our roads, especially in Jamaica are gravel and rocks and filled with potholes and these cars do so well in that kind of terrain. I am actually going to purchase one as soon as I’m finished with College
Driving over a rock with the front and rear wheels at the same time from a dead stop is actually lifting the car straight up as opposed to rolling forward. That takes an enormous amount of power. I've had Jeeps struggle in that situation (bigger rocks). If you were to drive over those rocks one wheel at a time it would have rolled right over it. That's just a matter of choosing a better approach, and with this car probably carrying a little more momentum up the hill would help.
I have an 18 HRV, bought it mainly for snow. It does fantastic in snow, no doubt about it. I have a long driveway in the country that front wheel drive vehicles can not get up in snow, but my HRV doesn't even spin a wheel. Very satisfied with mine, plus it averages 30 mpg.
@@mudjerry You drive on plowed roads with winter tires something a FWD can do well. Watch the video at 9:00 the HRV can't send power to the rear it fails on a small camping trip. You can also watch the Diagonal tests th-cam.com/video/U6tOJ3CQiuc/w-d-xo.html
For a while it was full throttle and the car was not moving. From the outside you can see that I did almost get it over that one time - but from the inside I don’t have the benefit of that view and I didn’t know I was that close. I was lifting early because I didn’t want to come down hard on the opposite side if/when I did get over. -RD
I just went offroad on my 2WD HRV with Bridgestone Turanzsa tyres on a 40kilometre track far worse than the 'offroad' track in this video. While I had to go painstakingly slow in some parts, the HRV did fine and pulled through in the end. My respect for Honda and Bridgestone has increased. P.S. My GPS incorrectly navigated me into the bush in Australia and I mistakenly followed it. Hence why I was offroad in the first place.
By the way I have a two-wheel drive stick shift version of this car where I downsized to 16 inch wheels and up sized to 215 70 tires off-road type and it's actually quite the beast as long as you have momentum, because of the approach and departure angles that are so advantageous as you noticed.
I picked the HRV for my wife’s daily commute and awd helps on a rainy day commute. She doesn’t take it up the mountains. Plus it’s a good pass down vehicle for my daughter 5 years from now when she heads out to college. If I take my family to the mountains, that’s when my Tacoma comes in the picture.
Agreed! I’ve seen the comments that blame the driving (which is possible) but it’s common knowledge that the computer cuts the power to save the CVT. So, I’m thinking those who accused him of playing on the rock were actually seeing the system killing the power.
10:06 It's the CVT not transferring power, not a lack of horsepower (although more is always the answer). Toyota has a new CVT that has a with a launch or first gear for very low speed. That direct gear allows more torque to be transferred to the wheels.
another comment after my other meandering ones on other vids because i have meandered back to the subcompacts in my search. i walked away from a rav4 today. in part because man i loved driving my Fit and i probably wouldn't have car shopped for 10 years if it didn't get tree'd. i want my Fit back with some clearance. so honestly the HRV is probably all of the upgrade i need and it'll take less bucks over top of my insurance payout for fewer compromises on things like size and interior spaciousness. i have access to 2 folks with Crosstreks and they're great at what they do, but they aren't the swiss army knive that was the Fit. these r so useful videos. what a calming fun educational channel.
had mine a year, never used the sport mode or the paddle shifters yet. i like it very much but wish i got a Crosstrek. it's my last car. I'm ancient. lol
Turn off the traction control and it will do better off-road... Weird fact: The front-wheel-drive HR-V model actually has more ground clearance than the all-wheel-drive model.
Raven Smith Thanks girl! Do you think it has a noticeable lack of acceleration power?? I hear everyone complaining about it, but I’m not sure if it’s being exaggerated lol 🤦🏾♀️
CVT slipping and can’t put enough torque to the wheels so it commands a reduced power from the engine to prevent damage to the CVT. You can pedal to the metal and the engine won’t cooperate.
Clear up the misinformation about CVTs then, please? Long term reliability in a small SUV that some people might take to the mountains, where the push belt will have to be stretched (work under tension) to allow engine breaking?
Waldemar Ishibashi It’s “clear up”, “braking” and CVTs’ belts don’t stretch to perform engine braking any more than they do to shift normally. You can’t force a CVT to downshift past its safe operational rotation. Its ECU will control everything. God, you’re always wrong, in every single comment.
Jesse James They (belt and chain) both actually do stretch. They need to to move between the cones. They don’t droop, like a bicycle chain. However, they don’t stretch like clothes do. They’re made of compound fibers. The weakness of CVTs is their tendency to overheat due to increased friction. For that reason, they need better lubricants, regular oil transmission oil changes and relatively light applications. A chain is a bit more robust, generally, than a belt, but there are varied sizes of both, and size is what matters in CVTs. For example, Subaru’s CVTs are chain-driven, but their regular models have a fairly light duty CVTs, while their turbo models have a heavier chain CVT that can handle higher torque without slippage.
@@valdius85 There isn't any part of a CVT that gets stretched. They use either a metal belt or a chain that wraps around 2 pulleys. The pulleys expand and contract to allow the belt or chain to slide lower or higher because them. As for long term reliability, CVTs have been around in heavy use for long enough to know which car companies have had issues with them and which ones have been pretty good.
I like the Honda HRV and Subaru Crosstrek, but I would not buy a CVT model because I like my cars to last 20+ to 30+ years with reliable manual transmissions.
My wife and I have a 2017 HR-V. This thing is SLOWWWWWWWW so much so that highway merges are borderline dangerous. But other than the slow noisy engine, it is a comfortable car that has a surprising amount of interior space and I average 26 mpg in the city pretty regularly. Over all I like the car but I need a bit more head room and more power.
Good video! I like the fact that you put this little SUV through its paces where no one in his or her right mind would drive it (in rugged SUV and Jeep territory). If it can survive this it is certainly good enough for us to drive on the typical forest service gravel roads. We plan on purchasing one for driving on the road and occasional light to moderate non-paved driving (not four wheel drive territory!). We are seniors and are seriously considering this vehicle and we are looking for a small AWD SUV/Crossover with good mpg.
Thanks for watching, Stan. You might also want to look at the Subaru Crosstrek. It’s a bit bigger, but much better on dirt roads, plus the available Eye Sight safety system is class leading. (Also gets great MPG.)
@@drivingsports Thanks! We don't plan on doing four wheeling, just road trips and driving on some light unpaved roads. Cost is a big factor for us being retired and on a fixed income. I will look into the Crosstrek though.
Great video! We recently leased a base model HV-V AWD as our first new car and our first CVT. I'm not loosing a wink of sleep over a few seconds of acceleration throughout hours of commute time, and I'm not fortunate enough to have rock crawling problems, but I am bothered about a serious lack of engine braking (D,S,L) from my HR-V. I do a lot of driving on steep, winding mountain roads and took for granted upon signing that the down shifting actually slows the vehicle. I intend to approach Honda reps about this during the first oil change. I notice that higher model HR-V's have paddle shifters, and higher model Subaru CVT's offers "hill descent" assistance....I'm failing to recognize much utility in descending a mountain in cruise control, can Honda tune in some electronic values to amplify my "S" and "L" gear selectors? It would not be the first time Honda dropped the ball on properly wiring drive systems. th-cam.com/video/jkiv-bWbLIo/w-d-xo.html
The HR-V Sport is the best value all around, but it needs the N/A 2.0L engine from the Civic Sport sedan. The extra power may maje tge difference. But maybe the manual would be needed for the AWD version. Also, the AWD is a lot slower under acceleration than the FWD versiin.
I will say that neither the rav4, nor the CRV, nor the HRV, gift for offroad, but I know that it depends on how you want to make the vehicle look, the truth is that test is difficult even for those mentioned above, if for a tundra or tacoma , Pilot, Wrangler, Bronco, etc. But Honda is an excellent product.
WHY are you taking an HR-V off-road? Why not a Fusion a Mazda3? The current PTU of the HR-V and CR-V uses all 4 wheels to launch, so it’s not being responsive to slip, it’s simply 50/50 until it starts rolling.
Our old 2013 Buick Encore was a slip-n-grip system. But from a stop if you brake torqued it briefly on snow or on a wet road all four tires would be spinning. Honda systems do not do this?
Norm T The only way all 4 wheels will spin is if you overpower the tire traction. That has to do with 2 things: engine torque output and quality of tires. The HR-V isn’t extremely powerful and comes stock with Michelins that are pretty decent. Remember, the Encore comes with a turbo, so when you brake torqued, it likely spun up the turbo and provided LOTS of torque. That’s why on loose/slippery surfaces, it’s best to start out in a higher gear.
@@afcgeo882 the HR-V did not spin the rear wheels in this test on gravel.i havent sewn the HR-V on rollers to see if the rear wheels will actually spin or not. The Toyota and Lexus FWD based AWD systems do not spin the rear wheel on this gravel test nor do they succeed in the inclined diagonal test.
Norm T They will spin on rollers too. As I’ve said, the current Honda system sends power to both axles (50/50) from a stop, regardless of sensor input. Many cars do that. Toyota’s system does not. It still needs actual or potential wheel spin to kick in. Subaru doesn’t kick into 50/50 from stop either. It starts at its default 60/40. However, your takeaway from this gravel test is incorrect. It does not measure what axles are getting torque. It measures which axles are losing grip, which is why it’s a baseless test for an AWD system.
i have been on many hard and tuff roads wiht F XT 2014 and nothing seems to stop it . Im only scared to have a flat tire and get stuck With my 8,7 inch of ground clearance it can do alot !!
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Can someone tell me why Honda removed they dual climate control and power seating on the 2021?
0-60 best time is not achieved by flooring it. You have to run the throttle at about 80% I learned this with my Nissan Sentra. Secondly the car cuts power because it doesn't want to burn up the transmission that's why it would stick on rocks ,it wasn't a lack of power but the car actually cutting power to save the transmission this is the fatal flaw of CVT transmissions when put in all wheel drive system. For any questions about CVT City all wheel drive cars just watch the fast Lanes review they just posted about the Subaru outback
Two owners I’ve known traded their hrv in after lease. Did not like them and didn’t do well in the snow. They went to Toyota and Subaru. Much happier Im sure others will say differently, just keeping it real. Personally not a vehicle I’d get.
This is an odd experiment because you’ve spent over $30,000 on a vehicle meant to save gas and tread through snow, ice and mud IN THE CITY. Yet, this guy takes the vehicle up a freaking gravel and rock mountain and gets frustrated and perplexed when it can’t go over a rock. If you are going to put that much money into a vehicle and you want this type of capability: get a mid level CRV or an entry Pilot, that’s common sense.
The road we tested on isn’t an uncommon experience for Pacific Northwest locals. But the point was to see what it could do - where it’s limits were. In the real world. We found them. It wasn’t to replicate every HRV owners daily commute. That’s no fun.
$29,000 for 141 hp? No good. Nice little commuter Ute otherwise but... 141hp? Wow. 170hp would seem more appropriate although probably still merely adequate for the AWD version.
I just financed this car 2021 hrv I should of went with Toyota rav but I loved the hrv in this last snow storm.. I feel like I made the wrong decision but than again I'm not climbing rocks..
@@jacklo325 thank you!! So helpful. It’s a big coincidence too because I was thinking of calling Honda today to ask how I know when my car is in AWD mode
I was looking at buying one of these for the family car but my and the ol lady both prefer standard which was not an option, which I could look past except that little motor made the car feel like it couldn't get out of its own way...
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot why is it dumb to put a lower gear? Also wouldn't it be beneficial for towing? I never said for this vehicle specifically, just Honda should look into it. Also "if" the hr-v had a dedicated low 1st it wouldn't have had this problem. Toyota has a 1st gear and cvt. Why should jeeps only get a low gear? If I'm dumb for limiting myself and not have an opinion then so be it.
Oh I had no idea that a low gear would only multiply horse power and not torque. Only if I knew how gear ratios worked. Wow I've been wrong this entire time. One thing I don't understand. Why was the Suzuki samurai so popular for off road adventures? They only peaked about 63hp. Since your proficient in how this all works. Can you explain this?
I love these tests! Yeah, I'm not doing this stuff all the time but am curious how different vehicles handle off roading. Thank you! & Ahhhh!!! I love the lane watch too! That's one of my favorites things about the 2017 Civic EX!! 😍😍😭😭
Driving Sports TV that’s the most dumbest thing I could’ve ever came up with like u push that unlock key to open all doors lol I’m ready to give my suv back the same day I got.. and before I get a new car I’m going to be watch video before I buying anything on this earth because u will end up not loving it
It front wheel base but when on an incline or when it start slipping the system detect that it need power to the back so it send power to the back (sorry my english is bad it not my first languages)
I love this little suv BUT Honda does not make it with a 6 Speed Manual with AWD... it is a shame that Honda doesn't understand that many car buyers that are not happy with Subaru's issues will just switch to Honda because of better overall reliability.
I've never understood why Honda didn't outfit this with a turbo. 11.5 seconds, 0-60 is just abysmal. Honda is just totally out to lunch sometimes. I heard they're coming out with a newly re-designed and more powerful HR-V for 2022, but it won't be available in North America?!?!?!?!?! Honda is gonna get eaten by the competition. And deservedly so.
That was a bear of a rock. I can see why it was a problem. It's not like the HR-V is lifted. It was trying it's best, that rock was just a bear. Also the way the rock was shaped, it was like a ledge that would prevent it from going over
This is an excellent video. Thank you! I'm trying to find an affordable vehicle that can take me on at least some cool camping trips with a mattress in the back while not killing my wallet in the city. Currently I have a Civic so I was hoping to stay with Honda but it seems like without any decent hybrid options, I might have to switch manufacturers. Anyway, Thank you!
In this class, I really like the Kona and Crosstrek. But these come so close in price to something like a well-equipped Rav4 Hybrid LE or XLE that it makes me want to pass. The Rav4 would have more space, get 10ish mpg more (with the hybrid), have better interior/safety/features, and have the expected reliability of Toyota. A friend who has an HR-V just had to replace her transmission at less than 50,000 miles. All signs point to no HR-V for me.
Looking to get a new car and been eyeing the HR-V, Live in the New England area and want something that can handle the winters no problem. Also considering a subaru, but these HR-V really caught my eye
Come on. Let’s be honest. The average Joe’s would buy this and use it on paved roads only. Off-road, you got better choice. Even my own two feet are better.
They never fail to underpower these little mainstream hatchie things and it's disappointing. They're fun size; they ought to be at least a little bit fun to drive. Even archetypical "mom car" configurations like CR-V's are better. :(
What’s your favorite compact crossover?
Driving Sports TV that would be the Crosstrek
Are you gonna try the CR-V on this road?
Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid up the same trail maybe...
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i live in alaska and the hrv is my daily, it does fairly deep snow very frequently along with sand and gravel with little issues thus far. also has a great interior layout, all the seats will go full flat and hold pretty much every thing not to mention good mpg. been a home run for me thus far especially in snow
Drove my wife's 2016 HRV to Colorado and back. We went skiing during a snowstorm and never gave me problems, we were up and going trough the mountain roads before the snow plows. I'll never sell this vehicle! Great milage, reliable as hell and will take you to most places you want to go. A good ol' parter for the road.
I drove my wife's 2016 HR-V over similar sized rocks on forest service roads without the drama portrayed in this video.
It's not a Wrangler and it's definitely not designed for rough terrain, but it did better than I expected over rocks.
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Right? He was a little dramatic with it. And he stopped when he should of just went on the rocks. The car is good for what it is. I have one and its so much more then what these reviewers make it to be. I have a 2018 HR-V AWD and its been great in the snow and back roads. The acceleration is plenty, its not a sports racer. Its a practical vehicle that does everything but at a leisure pace. Its good on the highway, even if it has the CVT, its good. For what its worth, I'd not take this into a real mountainous trail. Its not built for it so why test it there where its at a disadvantage. Rocky back roads, rain, sleet and snow are fine.
@@twodayhero5139 I'm coming from a 2002 LX AWD CRV (automatic, 2.4L 4 cylinder, 160hp apparently). I live near some 75mph highways with pitifully short on-ramps. Do you think the HRV is okay for accelerations like that? I'm wondering if I should find something with a turbo engine
Actually thought it was well done and helped manage expectations. The wheel spin and braking and viewing the undercarriage was cool to see. HP and wheel clearance makes a big deal.
A whole drama production! These cars do so well in the Caribbean and most of our roads, especially in Jamaica are gravel and rocks and filled with potholes and these cars do so well in that kind of terrain. I am actually going to purchase one as soon as I’m finished with College
Made it up and back... and here's the kicker... it was never meant to do it in the first place. That speaks volumes for me.
Less than 1% of customers would actually try this with their new HRV.
Pretty sure something like that would be 0.1% haha
In my country people go camping,skiing,road trips very similar to this that is why they buy crossovers.
I do it all the time , I love my hrv lol
0.000000000000000000000001%
I’d be that 1%…. Because I definitely did exactly this with my Hyundai Elantra GT 😵💫😵💫
Driving over a rock with the front and rear wheels at the same time from a dead stop is actually lifting the car straight up as opposed to rolling forward. That takes an enormous amount of power. I've had Jeeps struggle in that situation (bigger rocks). If you were to drive over those rocks one wheel at a time it would have rolled right over it. That's just a matter of choosing a better approach, and with this car probably carrying a little more momentum up the hill would help.
I have an 18 HRV, bought it mainly for snow. It does fantastic in snow, no doubt about it. I have a long driveway in the country that front wheel drive vehicles can not get up in snow, but my HRV doesn't even spin a wheel. Very satisfied with mine, plus it averages 30 mpg.
Seriously, I think most people will buy this kind of vehicle to have a little more traction in the snow than a front wheel drive.
Ray I think it’s more about making people feel “safe”. Some may actually use the AWD, but I feel more just buy it for a (false) sense of security.
The AWD of other brands is way better, if you have a snowy slope the HRV's awd will fail you, unlike cars like crosstrek,Tiguan etc...
jp ch Mitsubishi Outlander Sport is amazing
@@jpch8814 well i live in alaska and drive through alot of snow all winter and its been a great car for me so maybe your mistaken ;)
@@mudjerry You drive on plowed roads with winter tires something a FWD can do well. Watch the video at 9:00 the HRV can't send power to the rear it fails on a small camping trip. You can also watch the Diagonal tests th-cam.com/video/U6tOJ3CQiuc/w-d-xo.html
You keep lifting off the gas just as you crest the rock then blame the car.
Scott it was hard to watch. Lol
For a while it was full throttle and the car was not moving. From the outside you can see that I did almost get it over that one time - but from the inside I don’t have the benefit of that view and I didn’t know I was that close. I was lifting early because I didn’t want to come down hard on the opposite side if/when I did get over. -RD
@@drivingsports I may have missed it, but did you put it into S mode with Eco off and use the paddles?
HR-Vex Paddles didn’t do anything useful. We tried S off-camera and it also wasn’t any help.
@@drivingsports ok with eco off? That eco button really reduces power in my use
Okay. I liked this video specifically for that shot where you just casually drove over your camera for that glorious under-body shot. Very nice.
I just went offroad on my 2WD HRV with Bridgestone Turanzsa tyres on a 40kilometre track far worse than the 'offroad' track in this video. While I had to go painstakingly slow in some parts, the HRV did fine and pulled through in the end. My respect for Honda and Bridgestone has increased. P.S. My GPS incorrectly navigated me into the bush in Australia and I mistakenly followed it. Hence why I was offroad in the first place.
They're phasing out the side-mirror camera? Noooo! I have it on my '17 Honda Accord Touring and I find it very useful. This is too bad.
They added it in the Touring version on HR-V 2022
By the way I have a two-wheel drive stick shift version of this car where I downsized to 16 inch wheels and up sized to 215 70 tires off-road type and it's actually quite the beast as long as you have momentum, because of the approach and departure angles that are so advantageous as you noticed.
What brand 215/70-16's are you using? What 16" rim did you go with? Does the tire rub? I'm planning on going with the same setup but in an AWD.
I picked the HRV for my wife’s daily commute and awd helps on a rainy day commute. She doesn’t take it up the mountains. Plus it’s a good pass down vehicle for my daughter 5 years from now when she heads out to college. If I take my family to the mountains, that’s when my Tacoma comes in the picture.
can you please do the 2017-2019 Honda CR-V AWD in those rocky roads please.. We wanna see it.
This car is awesome in terms of size, appearance, engine and price. It's a great looking car!
I like it.
Dear CVT/DCT-based SUVs: If a pleasant man named Ryan approaches you and offers to "take you to the mountains" - be afraid, be very afraid!! 😉
That was the cvt and lack of torque not letting you go over that rock. The hrv was doing exactly how Subaru's act.
Exactly.
If that was a manual, he would have been over no problem.
Agreed! I’ve seen the comments that blame the driving (which is possible) but it’s common knowledge that the computer cuts the power to save the CVT. So, I’m thinking those who accused him of playing on the rock were actually seeing the system killing the power.
10:06 It's the CVT not transferring power, not a lack of horsepower (although more is always the answer). Toyota has a new CVT that has a with a launch or first gear for very low speed. That direct gear allows more torque to be transferred to the wheels.
It's the lack of torque not hp for off road torque is more imfortant for off road
It has nothing to do with horsepower. It has to do with torque, which the CVT transmission may limit.
another comment after my other meandering ones on other vids because i have meandered back to the subcompacts in my search. i walked away from a rav4 today. in part because man i loved driving my Fit and i probably wouldn't have car shopped for 10 years if it didn't get tree'd. i want my Fit back with some clearance. so honestly the HRV is probably all of the upgrade i need and it'll take less bucks over top of my insurance payout for fewer compromises on things like size and interior spaciousness. i have access to 2 folks with Crosstreks and they're great at what they do, but they aren't the swiss army knive that was the Fit. these r so useful videos. what a calming fun educational channel.
I just did a road test on HR-V AWD . for the money and capability of this vehicle I can't go wrong
I have drove my Toyota prius on this kind of rocky path and i was shocked with the performance it was 1.8 but unbelievable power👍
Another reason to keep my wrx running
Power was never the issue there. You'd go up that hill easily with 30 HP and a low enough gear.
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot Super low gearing, ie a very large lever would allow you to climb that hill with 30 HP.
You hog tied by the CVT, I think...
That is the issues, no low gear option makes all modern day cross overs fairly useless
Once in sport mode and using the paddle shifters I was climbing over all kinds of crap.
had mine a year, never used the sport mode or the paddle shifters yet. i like it very much but wish i got a Crosstrek. it's my last car. I'm ancient. lol
Turn off the traction control and it will do better off-road... Weird fact: The front-wheel-drive HR-V model actually has more ground clearance than the all-wheel-drive model.
Well those speed bumps In my apartments are pretty high and my 19 HRV went right over it
Do you like it?? I’m considering buying one!
@@chocpink2464 I love it. The LX Model isn't a push start but it fine. I love it
Raven Smith Thanks girl! Do you think it has a noticeable lack of acceleration power?? I hear everyone complaining about it, but I’m not sure if it’s being exaggerated lol 🤦🏾♀️
@@chocpink2464 yes it does but unless you are drag racing it shouldn't matter. Or maybe if you're trying to pass that 18 wheeler
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CVT slipping and can’t put enough torque to the wheels so it commands a reduced power from the engine to prevent damage to the CVT. You can pedal to the metal and the engine won’t cooperate.
Jeez, guy, this car isn't designed to be driven on rocky mountain roads, it's perfect for the city and on the highways though, saving gas.
There is interesting rear suspension, with a whole rear beam.
What is this tube under the car on the left side?
Good to see Honda stepping up their AWD game, past attempts from them were feeble at best. Also queue the misinformed CVT hate comments.
Clear up the misinformation about CVTs then, please?
Long term reliability in a small SUV that some people might take to the mountains, where the push belt will have to be stretched (work under tension) to allow engine breaking?
Waldemar Ishibashi It’s “clear up”, “braking” and CVTs’ belts don’t stretch to perform engine braking any more than they do to shift normally. You can’t force a CVT to downshift past its safe operational rotation. Its ECU will control everything.
God, you’re always wrong, in every single comment.
@@afcgeo882 Not to mention some CVT's use a metal chain instead of a metal belt. I would love to see someone stretch either one of those LOL!
Jesse James They (belt and chain) both actually do stretch. They need to to move between the cones. They don’t droop, like a bicycle chain. However, they don’t stretch like clothes do. They’re made of compound fibers.
The weakness of CVTs is their tendency to overheat due to increased friction. For that reason, they need better lubricants, regular oil transmission oil changes and relatively light applications. A chain is a bit more robust, generally, than a belt, but there are varied sizes of both, and size is what matters in CVTs. For example, Subaru’s CVTs are chain-driven, but their regular models have a fairly light duty CVTs, while their turbo models have a heavier chain CVT that can handle higher torque without slippage.
@@valdius85 There isn't any part of a CVT that gets stretched. They use either a metal belt or a chain that wraps around 2 pulleys. The pulleys expand and contract to allow the belt or chain to slide lower or higher because them. As for long term reliability, CVTs have been around in heavy use for long enough to know which car companies have had issues with them and which ones have been pretty good.
I like the Honda HRV and Subaru Crosstrek, but I would not buy a CVT model because I like my cars to last 20+ to 30+ years with reliable manual transmissions.
It looks like it did ok considering its not made for any forum of off roading.
My wife and I have a 2017 HR-V. This thing is SLOWWWWWWWW so much so that highway merges are borderline dangerous. But other than the slow noisy engine, it is a comfortable car that has a surprising amount of interior space and I average 26 mpg in the city pretty regularly. Over all I like the car but I need a bit more head room and more power.
I have a "17 EX-L and no problems merging! I have had to pass a Corvette and full size pick-ups that were not going fast enough.
Try using premium gas
Good review. I loveeeee that Jamaican 🇯🇲 music too!!!!
Use the low range in the transmission
I really liked this video, watching again.
Nice review!! Yes it's interesting how it simulates shifting.
The old Hr-v design is far better than this new ones.
Good video! I like the fact that you put this little SUV through its paces where no one in his or her right mind would drive it (in rugged SUV and Jeep territory). If it can survive this it is certainly good enough for us to drive on the typical forest service gravel roads. We plan on purchasing one for driving on the road and occasional light to moderate non-paved driving (not four wheel drive territory!). We are seniors and are seriously considering this vehicle and we are looking for a small AWD SUV/Crossover with good mpg.
Thanks for watching, Stan. You might also want to look at the Subaru Crosstrek. It’s a bit bigger, but much better on dirt roads, plus the available Eye Sight safety system is class leading. (Also gets great MPG.)
@@drivingsports Thanks! We don't plan on doing four wheeling, just road trips and driving on some light unpaved roads. Cost is a big factor for us being retired and on a fixed income. I will look into the Crosstrek though.
Well said!
8:58 CVT issues
I’d really, REALLY like to see how the crosstrek does on this same mountain road test
You’re in luck: 2021 Subaru Crosstrek Sport 2.5 Review and Off-Road Test - th-cam.com/video/KL7tFtfFVEw/w-d-xo.html
Great video! We recently leased a base model HV-V AWD as our first new car and our first CVT. I'm not loosing a wink of sleep over a few seconds of acceleration throughout hours of commute time, and I'm not fortunate enough to have rock crawling problems, but I am bothered about a serious lack of engine braking (D,S,L) from my HR-V. I do a lot of driving on steep, winding mountain roads and took for granted upon signing that the down shifting actually slows the vehicle. I intend to approach Honda reps about this during the first oil change. I notice that higher model HR-V's have paddle shifters, and higher model Subaru CVT's offers "hill descent" assistance....I'm failing to recognize much utility in descending a mountain in cruise control, can Honda tune in some electronic values to amplify my "S" and "L" gear selectors? It would not be the first time Honda dropped the ball on properly wiring drive systems. th-cam.com/video/jkiv-bWbLIo/w-d-xo.html
Lack of engine braking. Is that something to be concerned about if it's just used for commute?
is the Subaru awd system still the best on the market ?
yet my engin of 2014 fxt just died lol
@@JaggedMercenary i know...
I test drove one with manual transmission. It was nice just so slow . Got me another accord in manual transmission
Do you think the problem was power or the CVT avoiding to destroy? Lol
Yup, cvt problems :(
I believe that problem is overcome by the torque converter.
Dude why you went off roading to a mountain in a daily commuter small crossover you people are nuts !!
Because the mountain was there.
The HR-V Sport is the best value all around, but it needs the N/A 2.0L engine from the Civic Sport sedan. The extra power may maje tge difference. But maybe the manual would be needed for the AWD version. Also, the AWD is a lot slower under acceleration than the FWD versiin.
Cx3 awd pls!!! Or will it be the same as this? Also whats the tyre pressure for this?
The coolant light comes on every time even in hot weather.
I will say that neither the rav4, nor the CRV, nor the HRV, gift for offroad, but I know that it depends on how you want to make the vehicle look, the truth is that test is difficult even for those mentioned above, if for a tundra or tacoma , Pilot, Wrangler, Bronco, etc. But Honda is an excellent product.
The problem is not the 1.5 engine it is that CVT , yes it’s the gearbox not the engine
Where is the video of the RAV4 doing this hill?
Here: th-cam.com/video/rWxzkY8_D3g/w-d-xo.html
We plan to try out the new RAV4 Hybrid on it as well.
No one knows but the back seat have two reclining setting by using the fold down seat lever. LOL its about 1 inch difference.
WHY are you taking an HR-V off-road? Why not a Fusion a Mazda3?
The current PTU of the HR-V and CR-V uses all 4 wheels to launch, so it’s not being responsive to slip, it’s simply 50/50 until it starts rolling.
Our old 2013 Buick Encore was a slip-n-grip system. But from a stop if you brake torqued it briefly on snow or on a wet road all four tires would be spinning.
Honda systems do not do this?
Norm T The only way all 4 wheels will spin is if you overpower the tire traction. That has to do with 2 things: engine torque output and quality of tires. The HR-V isn’t extremely powerful and comes stock with Michelins that are pretty decent. Remember, the Encore comes with a turbo, so when you brake torqued, it likely spun up the turbo and provided LOTS of torque. That’s why on loose/slippery surfaces, it’s best to start out in a higher gear.
@@afcgeo882 the HR-V did not spin the rear wheels in this test on gravel.i havent sewn the HR-V on rollers to see if the rear wheels will actually spin or not. The Toyota and Lexus FWD based AWD systems do not spin the rear wheel on this gravel test nor do they succeed in the inclined diagonal test.
Norm T They will spin on rollers too. As I’ve said, the current Honda system sends power to both axles (50/50) from a stop, regardless of sensor input. Many cars do that. Toyota’s system does not. It still needs actual or potential wheel spin to kick in. Subaru doesn’t kick into 50/50 from stop either. It starts at its default 60/40.
However, your takeaway from this gravel test is incorrect. It does not measure what axles are getting torque. It measures which axles are losing grip, which is why it’s a baseless test for an AWD system.
i have been on many hard and tuff roads wiht F XT 2014 and nothing seems to stop it . Im only scared to have a flat tire and get stuck With my 8,7 inch of ground clearance it can do alot !!
Can someone tell me why Honda removed they dual climate control and power seating on the 2021?
Did u try L mode?
0-60 best time is not achieved by flooring it. You have to run the throttle at about 80% I learned this with my Nissan Sentra. Secondly the car cuts power because it doesn't want to burn up the transmission that's why it would stick on rocks ,it wasn't a lack of power but the car actually cutting power to save the transmission this is the fatal flaw of CVT transmissions when put in all wheel drive system. For any questions about CVT City all wheel drive cars just watch the fast Lanes review they just posted about the Subaru outback
Two owners I’ve known traded their hrv in after lease. Did not like them and didn’t do well in the snow. They went to Toyota and Subaru. Much happier Im sure others will say differently, just keeping it real. Personally not a vehicle I’d get.
Hi, which trail did you go to check out the HRV?
This is an odd experiment because you’ve spent over $30,000 on a vehicle meant to save gas and tread through snow, ice and mud IN THE CITY. Yet, this guy takes the vehicle up a freaking gravel and rock mountain and gets frustrated and perplexed when it can’t go over a rock. If you are going to put that much money into a vehicle and you want this type of capability: get a mid level CRV or an entry Pilot, that’s common sense.
The road we tested on isn’t an uncommon experience for Pacific Northwest locals. But the point was to see what it could do - where it’s limits were. In the real world. We found them. It wasn’t to replicate every HRV owners daily commute. That’s no fun.
Lift? Can you skid plate that...put same size tire but aggresive...so you could floor it in rock climb
Too much emphasis on the hump. Seems like you are just pumping the throttle on and off.
$29,000 for 141 hp? No good. Nice little commuter Ute otherwise but... 141hp? Wow. 170hp would seem more appropriate although probably still merely adequate for the AWD version.
AMV7 for real. All those compromises and it still doesn’t break 30mpg like the larger Forester, Crosstrek, and Rav4? Geez.
I just financed this car 2021 hrv I should of went with Toyota rav but I loved the hrv in this last snow storm.. I feel like I made the wrong decision but than again I'm not climbing rocks..
Update
Does the AWD Light pop up on the dash when it’s in AWD??
No, it does not. It only lights up when there is an issue with the AWD system.
@@jacklo325 thank you!! So helpful. It’s a big coincidence too because I was thinking of calling Honda today to ask how I know when my car is in AWD mode
Put a turbo 1.5 in there and it would be a real contender.
It is in Europe. The HRV sport. Hopefully comes to US
NO THANKS! Guess you haven't heard about the 1.5 problems.
@@wadeharrison5404 Which problems.!!!?? .? Greetings from Europe..
@@afrank3029 oil dilution. Look it up
@@moeanthony9308 here in Europe we have the 1.5 since 2017 and never heard about oil dilution, only in countries with -30°
I was looking at buying one of these for the family car but my and the ol lady both prefer standard which was not an option, which I could look past except that little motor made the car feel like it couldn't get out of its own way...
I would say that cvt is the biggest issue, put gears and it would be better
Honda should make a dedicated gear for crawl only when selected.
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot why is it dumb to put a lower gear? Also wouldn't it be beneficial for towing? I never said for this vehicle specifically, just Honda should look into it. Also "if" the hr-v had a dedicated low 1st it wouldn't have had this problem. Toyota has a 1st gear and cvt. Why should jeeps only get a low gear? If I'm dumb for limiting myself and not have an opinion then so be it.
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot isn't that a reason why it should have a low gear? Can't go up a rock the same height as a curb.
Oh I had no idea that a low gear would only multiply horse power and not torque. Only if I knew how gear ratios worked. Wow I've been wrong this entire time.
One thing I don't understand. Why was the Suzuki samurai so popular for off road adventures? They only peaked about 63hp. Since your proficient in how this all works. Can you explain this?
Has the Crosstrek been on this road ?
We haven’t had the Crosstrek up it yet. But we’ve done similarly challenging roads with them.
This was a tough watch. You are purposely not trying to get over that rock. Driver mod needed
Look at the rock again, that was a bear
It's painful to see your effort to don't pass that small bump. That's sad.
I love these tests! Yeah, I'm not doing this stuff all the time but am curious how different vehicles handle off roading. Thank you! & Ahhhh!!! I love the lane watch too! That's one of my favorites things about the 2017 Civic EX!! 😍😍😭😭
Out of all Honda why this one doesn’t pop open in the back you have to walk up and open it yourself so why it’s on the key if it doesn’t pop open
Yeah, it’s just a trunk unlock. Not a power door.
Driving Sports TV that’s the most dumbest thing I could’ve ever came up with like u push that unlock key to open all doors lol I’m ready to give my suv back the same day I got.. and before I get a new car I’m going to be watch video before I buying anything on this earth because u will end up not loving it
In other countries it’s called a XR-v and has turbo engine.
cvt and awd system that works
Compared to a 05 Ford escape 4 cylinder, this HR-V is pretty fast.
What is “real-time awd” ? Thanks
It front wheel base but when on an incline or when it start slipping the system detect that it need power to the back so it send power to the back (sorry my english is bad it not my first languages)
So it’s safe to say anything this hrv awd is the same the crv awd can do?
Not really: CRV has a more advanced AWD setup.
I love this little suv BUT Honda does not make it with a 6 Speed Manual with AWD... it is a shame that Honda doesn't understand that many car buyers that are not happy with Subaru's issues will just switch to Honda because of better overall reliability.
You shouldn’t take this little cutie off-roading because it has a sedan ground clearance
Take the Outlander sport and the eclipse cross up that hill if you get a chance.
I've never understood why Honda didn't outfit this with a turbo. 11.5 seconds, 0-60 is just abysmal. Honda is just totally out to lunch sometimes. I heard they're coming out with a newly re-designed and more powerful HR-V for 2022, but it won't be available in North America?!?!?!?!?! Honda is gonna get eaten by the competition. And deservedly so.
I wish that AWD version are sold in Indonesia
Hardly to happen. Most Indonesian customer especially people who live in Java much prefer a FWD car just for sake of the price.
I'll be happy to buy it if it had the same power (or more) than the C-RV, not a problem if I need to pay little more
How am I supposed to crawl over curbs at my local Starbucks with that thing if it cant get over that little rock?
CVT issue. No need for power just gearing
That was a bear of a rock. I can see why it was a problem. It's not like the HR-V is lifted. It was trying it's best, that rock was just a bear. Also the way the rock was shaped, it was like a ledge that would prevent it from going over
This is an excellent video. Thank you!
I'm trying to find an affordable vehicle that can take me on at least some cool camping trips with a mattress in the back while not killing my wallet in the city.
Currently I have a Civic so I was hoping to stay with Honda but it seems like without any decent hybrid options, I might have to switch manufacturers.
Anyway, Thank you!
Any thoughts on the Hyundai Kona? Thanks!
POS
In this class, I really like the Kona and Crosstrek. But these come so close in price to something like a well-equipped Rav4 Hybrid LE or XLE that it makes me want to pass. The Rav4 would have more space, get 10ish mpg more (with the hybrid), have better interior/safety/features, and have the expected reliability of Toyota. A friend who has an HR-V just had to replace her transmission at less than 50,000 miles. All signs point to no HR-V for me.
Tires look like all season, maybe better tires would help.
Good point
Looking to get a new car and been eyeing the HR-V, Live in the New England area and want something that can handle the winters no problem. Also considering a subaru, but these HR-V really caught my eye
Same. Winter, snow, ice, dirt road, mid season, up hill and down hill, rocks. Subaru has other issues though.
Come on. Let’s be honest. The average Joe’s would buy this and use it on paved roads only. Off-road, you got better choice. Even my own two feet are better.
They never fail to underpower these little mainstream hatchie things and it's disappointing. They're fun size; they ought to be at least a little bit fun to drive. Even archetypical "mom car" configurations like CR-V's are better. :(
Funny how you didn’t take the pilot on the rocky road lol
Sometimes it’s just a matter of scheduling and access. The rocky climb is often covered with snow in the winter.