Apparently the metal virus wouldn’t effect Bowser’s minions because of their sheer loyalty In Bowser Jr’s Journey, the Koopa Troop was put under mind control by Fawful via a magical mist. By the end of the game the minions gained an immunity from it because of something called the True Minion’s Spirit which specifically prevents them from turning on Bowser because their respect for Bowser’s army is literally on a spiritual level
Metal virus isn’t just basic mind control tho. It literally rewrites and affects you on a cellular level to the point you turn in to a zombie with no way to resist it. Bowser probably does have a few things to counter it
@@raiu_fp5194Bowser unironically has many ways to counter the metal virus that I've explained plenty of times ngl. The guy has a wider variety of reality warping items than Eggman such as the Star Rod, Royal Sticker, Dream Stone, Wonder Flower and HECK even the Power Stars are able to warp space, time and reality as shown in both Mario 64 and Mario Galaxy. The scary thing is the fact that the Grand Stars are superior to the Power Stars and can scale higher than them as Bowser was gonna use them to create galaxies and destroy entire universes in Mario Galaxy 2. I could even argue that Bowser doesn't even need these things to counter the metal virus cuz, bro could just summon lava monsters, bubbles or lava itself to burn the Metal virus away completely.
In terms of armies, if there’s one thing Bowser’s has over Eggman’s, it’s chemistry because Bowser genuinely does care for his minions, which is shown at the end of Brothership where the portal is getting ready to close and there are two Goombas falling behind, Bowser himself goes back for them, this kinda stuff is why Bowser’s army follows him.
That's because Bowser's army is (almost) full of living creatures with feelings. If he doesn't treat them with respect, they'll turns against him. While Eggman's army are (almost) full of robots and machines, Eggman can always reprogram or destroy them if they ever turns against him and make anew.
@@BimBimo-iv4rpLol you've never played a Mario and Luigi game cuz even when Bowser yells at them and he treats em like dirt, the minions stay by his side anyway cuz these guys basically worship the dude.
Don't forget the sheer size of Bowsers Army. He has enough troops to distribute them evenly across the universe without being stretched for manpower in both Galaxy games. The furthest reach I've seen the Eggman Empire have is across the planet in Sonic Forces, possibly multiple planets in Sonic Colors.
The thing is although I def agree with the chemistry part, that would be a neat thing if it wasn't for Bowser's war strategy mindset that 9.9 times out of 10 is basically "THERE HE IS! FOOKIN RUSH HIM" without any sort of second thoughts, when actually the more proven strategic capable one is Jr. Eggman although sometimes he uses this strategy as well tends more to actually play it more strategic when odds aren't in his favor and will do ANYTHING to have the odds in his favor by any means possible *insert here Eggman with the glock threatening furry person*, it's a no brainer that Eggman has just less morality than Bowser and although his arrogance could be a weakness, to this day he always knows what can do to have the advantage even when defeated by Sonic n Co...
Commenting before I get through the whole video, but I'm betting Eggman will win. I could write up a big argument detailing why, but I've written enough walls of text about this fight. So I'm just gonna be concise for once and summarize with my 5 stats & who takes them. Strength: Tie/Bowser (early fight) -> Tie/Eggman (late fight) Speed: Tie/Eggman Intelligence: Eggman Army: Eggman Hax: Tie/Bowser (Note: anywhere I say Tie/[person] is where I'm not sure where DB will scale them because there are arguments for tied scaling, but I'm confident 1 side isn't getting this stat.) Bowser can take an early lead, but his advantages dry up as the fight progresses and they both start pulling out the big guns. Eventually Bowser's one the who has to resort to hax when it's clear he's not winning with stats, and hax are close enough that each side has some kind of answer to everything that could be thrown at them by the opponent. Eggman (as well as Sage) are intelligent enough to reliably find that answer, and as long as he does, he wins through his superior army having more complex multi scaled guys. It's incredibly close, extreme diff no matter what; but I think Eggman wins more often than he doesn't.
As a second time viewer on this channel, and first time watcher of your predictions (idk if you've made any before) my suggestion for whenever you do another of these: try to have different music in the background. After an hour the music in the back kinda got a bit grating. Changing it up with other Mario/Sonic music from their episodes or from Brandon Yates/Therewolf media commisions would be nice
2:07:30 is my favorite part where ya'll talked about the metal virus, also at 1:11:02 Sage cannot control the Titans because she says in the game that she does not have full control over the Titans instead she can direct them by there anger/movement
I’m leading on Bowser he just has more counters and more reliable win cons not to mention possesses a variety of minions that can think independently and work together as a team leading Bowser’s army to fight more creatively and effectively where as Eggman’s robots need to be manually, commanded by Eggman himself or Sage both of them are gonna be too busy dealing with Bowser and his heavy hitters. Other thing to mention I think metal sonic can be taken out quickly thanks to the wonder flower Metal hasn’t shown any resistance to matter manipulation or absorption, so Bowser could use the one of flowers to take control of him or King Boo can trap him in a giant portrait he made in Luigis mansion 3. On top of that Bowser has more experience fighting mechs and machines where as Eggman has very little experience fighting magic users. And finally, Bowser has so many ways to stay in the fight with items that can restore his health power and stamina back to 100% or Kamek and the koopaings even as skeleton which could be a great fake out if he loses, a beam struggle against Eggman, and is reduced to his dry Bowser form Eggman with his ego will think he won only for a surprise attack that leads to his death and even then he has items that prevent him from getting one shot. In short terms, Bowser just has way too many things to fall back on while having ways to eliminate Eggman's best weapons or machines making the winner in my eyes Bowser.
"No more armors, Ivo. Just you and me" -Bowser (Probably)
One more thing! The ruined dragon from Mario Odyssey is also apart of the Koopa Troop
@@Skynetbear If they bring that dark souls ahh lookin' guy into the fight, I will legit laugh.
Dump the metal virus on that big old dragon and he's out of the fight instantly.
@@pokefan5835 Wonder Flower, Royal sticker, Dream Stone, Star Rod and Lava's honest reaction:
@@pokefan5835wasting that big of a wincon on the throwaway dragon is a massive loss for the eggman empire
Apparently the metal virus wouldn’t effect Bowser’s minions because of their sheer loyalty
In Bowser Jr’s Journey, the Koopa Troop was put under mind control by Fawful via a magical mist. By the end of the game the minions gained an immunity from it because of something called the True Minion’s Spirit which specifically prevents them from turning on Bowser because their respect for Bowser’s army is literally on a spiritual level
The worst part is, most people won’t know about this because let’s be real, who tf played Bowser Jr’s Journey?
Metal virus isn’t just basic mind control tho. It literally rewrites and affects you on a cellular level to the point you turn in to a zombie with no way to resist it. Bowser probably does have a few things to counter it
@@raiu_fp5194Bowser unironically has many ways to counter the metal virus that I've explained plenty of times ngl. The guy has a wider variety of reality warping items than Eggman such as the Star Rod, Royal Sticker, Dream Stone, Wonder Flower and HECK even the Power Stars are able to warp space, time and reality as shown in both Mario 64 and Mario Galaxy. The scary thing is the fact that the Grand Stars are superior to the Power Stars and can scale higher than them as Bowser was gonna use them to create galaxies and destroy entire universes in Mario Galaxy 2. I could even argue that Bowser doesn't even need these things to counter the metal virus cuz, bro could just summon lava monsters, bubbles or lava itself to burn the Metal virus away completely.
@@david_cool427YTplus Bowesr JR ink can actually revert the metal virus
@@superthorc6894 True fax
In terms of armies, if there’s one thing Bowser’s has over Eggman’s, it’s chemistry because Bowser genuinely does care for his minions, which is shown at the end of Brothership where the portal is getting ready to close and there are two Goombas falling behind, Bowser himself goes back for them, this kinda stuff is why Bowser’s army follows him.
That's because Bowser's army is (almost) full of living creatures with feelings. If he doesn't treat them with respect, they'll turns against him. While Eggman's army are (almost) full of robots and machines, Eggman can always reprogram or destroy them if they ever turns against him and make anew.
@@BimBimo-iv4rpLol you've never played a Mario and Luigi game cuz even when Bowser yells at them and he treats em like dirt, the minions stay by his side anyway cuz these guys basically worship the dude.
@@david_cool427YT Interesting... But at least there's must be a time where Bowser's troops have enough with the mistreatment right?
Don't forget the sheer size of Bowsers Army. He has enough troops to distribute them evenly across the universe without being stretched for manpower in both Galaxy games. The furthest reach I've seen the Eggman Empire have is across the planet in Sonic Forces, possibly multiple planets in Sonic Colors.
The thing is although I def agree with the chemistry part, that would be a neat thing if it wasn't for Bowser's war strategy mindset that 9.9 times out of 10 is basically "THERE HE IS! FOOKIN RUSH HIM" without any sort of second thoughts, when actually the more proven strategic capable one is Jr.
Eggman although sometimes he uses this strategy as well tends more to actually play it more strategic when odds aren't in his favor and will do ANYTHING to have the odds in his favor by any means possible *insert here Eggman with the glock threatening furry person*, it's a no brainer that Eggman has just less morality than Bowser and although his arrogance could be a weakness, to this day he always knows what can do to have the advantage even when defeated by Sonic n Co...
This episode is going down in the history book folks
Commenting before I get through the whole video, but I'm betting Eggman will win.
I could write up a big argument detailing why, but I've written enough walls of text about this fight. So I'm just gonna be concise for once and summarize with my 5 stats & who takes them.
Strength: Tie/Bowser (early fight) -> Tie/Eggman (late fight)
Speed: Tie/Eggman
Intelligence: Eggman
Army: Eggman
Hax: Tie/Bowser
(Note: anywhere I say Tie/[person] is where I'm not sure where DB will scale them because there are arguments for tied scaling, but I'm confident 1 side isn't getting this stat.)
Bowser can take an early lead, but his advantages dry up as the fight progresses and they both start pulling out the big guns. Eventually Bowser's one the who has to resort to hax when it's clear he's not winning with stats, and hax are close enough that each side has some kind of answer to everything that could be thrown at them by the opponent. Eggman (as well as Sage) are intelligent enough to reliably find that answer, and as long as he does, he wins through his superior army having more complex multi scaled guys.
It's incredibly close, extreme diff no matter what; but I think Eggman wins more often than he doesn't.
As a second time viewer on this channel, and first time watcher of your predictions (idk if you've made any before) my suggestion for whenever you do another of these: try to have different music in the background. After an hour the music in the back kinda got a bit grating. Changing it up with other Mario/Sonic music from their episodes or from Brandon Yates/Therewolf media commisions would be nice
Eggman FTW
2:07:30 is my favorite part where ya'll talked about the metal virus, also at 1:11:02 Sage cannot control the Titans because she says in the game that she does not have full control over the Titans instead she can direct them by there anger/movement
I’m leading on Bowser he just has more counters and more reliable win cons not to mention possesses a variety of minions that can think independently and work together as a team leading Bowser’s army to fight more creatively and effectively where as Eggman’s robots need to be manually, commanded by Eggman himself or Sage both of them are gonna be too busy dealing with Bowser and his heavy hitters.
Other thing to mention I think metal sonic can be taken out quickly thanks to the wonder flower Metal hasn’t shown any resistance to matter manipulation or absorption, so Bowser could use the one of flowers to take control of him or King Boo can trap him in a giant portrait he made in Luigis mansion 3.
On top of that Bowser has more experience fighting mechs and machines where as Eggman has very little experience fighting magic users.
And finally, Bowser has so many ways to stay in the fight with items that can restore his health power and stamina back to 100% or Kamek and the koopaings even as skeleton which could be a great fake out if he loses, a beam struggle against Eggman, and is reduced to his dry Bowser form Eggman with his ego will think he won only for a surprise attack that leads to his death and even then he has items that prevent him from getting one shot.
In short terms, Bowser just has way too many things to fall back on while having ways to eliminate Eggman's best weapons or machines making the winner in my eyes Bowser.
Also as for who wins between Metal Overlord vs Ganon; well apparently there are arguments for the Chaos Emeralds being holy so...
I be mad if bowser Jr gets killed
Unfortunately, I doubt Jr is making it out of this battle alive.
I be mad if Sage gets killed
My reply didn't age well lel.
But what if King Boo gamer hacks
Bowser is the GOAT
Bowser ftw
😭BoOowSsseeeRrr😭
Bowser is practically invincible so I hope he wins
He's not invincible
@@NebulaSonMore invincible than Eggman thats for sure lol.
@@david_cool427YT Not really. Eggman beat someone who was invincible in Sonic unleashed. We've seen Bowser get beat up by the invincible Mario bros.
@@NebulaSonMario Galaxy, Odyssey and Paper Mario 64 honest reaction:
@david_cool427YT Sonic generations