“And when the disciples heard this, they were astonished and said, Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, ‘With man that is IMPOSSIBLE! But with GOD, ALL things are possible!” Matthew 19:25-26. Only GOD can save someone. He gets 💯% of the glory!
Many people reject the gospel. Those who reject God's grace are not saved. What we can not determine is whether or not the Holy Spirit witnessed to those who reject the gospel of grace. I know from personal experience that I ran from God for a long time even though the Holy Spirit convicted me of my sin. Eventually I came to the end of myself and surrendered to God . I don't know if there are those like me who never repented or not.
@@wayneallen2223 and who receives Christ Jesus according to verse 13? it amazes me how yall read verses by ignoring the context, and ignoring the plain meaning....
@@jalapeno.tabasco ”But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“ John 1:12-13 NKJV According to your plain reading of the text, how does verse 13 tell you who receives Christ Jesus.
This is why I watch this channel! You have basic humility. You like me have been broken to the point of understanding the importance of the Word of God and even better that it is BECAUSE of God we were saved in the first place. The Lord pursued me. He gets ALL of the glory for my salvation. I have read the Bible completely through 3xs now. I wake up early every morning to read first thing. I have a longing to know and please Him. This is NOT in my own strength. I was an Atheists. I wasn't anywhere near a church when I was saved. I had a little church background from occasionally attending different churches with friends growing up and once a year with my grandparents. I knew nothing about the Lord. I lost my faith when I was 14. I kept it secret for years. He saved me on my job 3 days after my 30th birthday. Hallelujah. A co-worker prayed with me (I didn't know she was a missionary) I changed that very minute. I was filled with joy! Everything looked different. I was excited and thirsty to learn more. My eagerness was the Holy Spirit! Reading the Word feeds your Spirit. I do nothing good or holy on my own. I only persist because The Lord let me break first. God is in control. Do not fool yourself. We are like 2 year olds without supervision on our own. We are "Can't get right" if you all remember that. I will NEVER take any credit for any good I do. I am just blessed God chose to show me mercy and I am forever in His debt. I am unworthy. Period.
God’s arms are always open waiting for us to surrender fully, and the Holy Spirit will then transform us from within. It’s a matter of the heart. The choice to surrender is our choice, but GOD/The HS is who saves us thru Jesus Sacrifice and resurrection. We don’t deserve it, but by Grace we are saved.
If God had to wait on us to actively take the first step, then I'm afraid heaven would be very lonely place. But praise be to God, in that while we were yet sinners, He made the first move and individually chose every person who is saved.
@@jtbtdlkt2012 She didn't say a word about us "taking the first step". Obviously, we don't, and could never, take the first step toward God! And _nobody_ believes that we do, despite all the false accusations that we do, flying around. What we can do is *respond* to the gospel, the *"power of God unto salvation":* the word of God, with the Holy Spirit making it real to our hearts, when we are being convicted by the Spirit, to get us to believe snd be saved.
@@jalapeno.tabasco And John 12:31-33. They are not in competition with each other, you know. The true interpretations agree. No need to suppress John 12:32, anymore: what a concept.
Salvation is a Gift from your Heavenly Father!!! GLORIFY the LORD and He will GLORIFY you!!! Amen!!! ❤ JesusChrist gives you the VICTORY over the Works of Darkness!!! ❤
I Love this video, always look at John 6:44 on this subject. God KNOWS ALREADY (WHO) he's going to SAVE,but NO MAN KNOWS. For this reason BELIEVERS should spread the Gospel whenever the opportunity presents itself.
Brother Corey wow I didn't know you were under Bishop Watson an Mother Watson, I was under them an elder Byrd in Germany at His 1st chruch in velseck (Hour of Prayer) , many years ago but left Cogic as well after leaving the Army . Well bless you brother I listen too your videos daily
No no no! I made the correct choice and I humbled myself enough to accept Jesus. I can claim some of that glory and boast, but I'm too pious for that; so instead I will give God a nod and a wink and say He did it all (but we both know I did the heavy lifting here). 😮 That was all tongue in cheek by the way. Couldnt those arguments be made by the other side though? Brother Corey, how do you keep saying you aren't a Calvinist lol; just take the leap brother, there's plenty of room.
We have a real choice to make. It's either life or death...but the problem is that we will never choose life unless we first hear the Word of God which cuts to the heart and brings faith to choose (HEB 4, Rom 10, Deut 31) --- the Gospel preached, the Word of God is the power and grace that enables us to beleive which is why God sends us out as preachers. This is why Jesus went and preached the gospel to the saints in Abraham's bosom who died in faith. If God never gave his powerful Word which brings faith and enables us to choose, we would never be able to attain salvation, it would be forever out of reach. Did I choose life that I may live? Absolutely! But I never would have been able to choose without God first sending his Word which cuts to the heart, convicts of sin and shows me the need of a savior. And for that, I am eternally grateful. God's word is powerful enough to cut to the heart of the worst sinner imaginable. But of course we see in HEB 4, that many will be cut to the heart and have the opportunity to beleive, but like Israel, they will rebel against what they know is true and be hardened by sin.
@@jalapeno.tabasco idk, but does that matter? I'm not concerned with God's plan of salvation being fair for everyone. If God is the one who enables people to choose life or death through the power of His word preached, then He gets the glory. Actually I do know why...Romans 1 teaches it. Romans 1:18 God's Wrath on Unrighteousness For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, Romans 1:19-21 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Paul says the difference is that some suppress the truth by their unrighteousness. The word of God preached reveals the truth but some still decide to continue in sin a d becomes hardened and decieved.
@@BEABEREAN10 i always laugh when I see your name, be a berean 😂 u should take your own advice why did God choose Israel? because of their faith? because they did something that earned them that choosing but God?
4 and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and his offering, 5 but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. 6 The LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it." (Genesis 4:4-7, ESV)
God, speaking to Israel, we can use that principle for today.the holy Spirit will convict the world of sin, ,the Holy Spirit will bring ,us where we can hear the word of God , but we have to hear the word of God and get convict but it up to us to accept the gift of God ,Jesus paid it all but God said chose life and live. We have to accept or reject his gift of salvation. we have a role to play too.
1 Corinthians 1:26-28 26 For your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong; 28 and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
This seems on odd footing with the interview you did with Leighton Flowers (on Calvinism?). Can you explain how his view (provisionism?) does not lead to Arminianism nor opem theism?
I lean towards being a 4 points calvinist/doctrines of grace, who doesn't believe limited atonement is biblical but have a hard time seeing in scripture people not being able to resist God, even to the damnation of thier soul. People according to scripture aren't born reprobate nor does regeneration precede saving faith. Can you show me in scripture otherwise?
Amen… God calls, God knocks, God works in us to respond, God Saves, God Fills Us, God Keeps us… I don’t like the phrase “free will”, but God has created us with the ability to understand an argument and respond to said argument either by accepting or rejecting said argument. Is the Holy Spirit working in us during the accept or reject phase?Absolutely… as God wants none to perish… If God chooses, then it’s super sad that God has only chosen about 10%-20% of the entire population that ever existed. I wish he would have chosen to save 100% to cause all humans to walk according to his ways. But I guess God has chosen to limit the number of entries into the pearly gates… Maybe God loves the lottery system… 🤔 🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽
5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. 6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.' (Revelation 3:5-6, ESV)
@@kgar5String Corey affirms unconditional election, irresistible grace and perseverance of the saints, the puts him in opposition with Arminians and the Leighton Flower's followers 😂 Corey is basically a Calvinist who doesn't realize it he disagrees with the T and the L because of how people define it, the T basically means total inability(which this video shows Corey agrees with) and the biggest point of debate even among predestinarians is limited atonement which isn't a good term its particular redemption, the death forgives son, it actually does something, John 3:16 Jesus came to save the believing ones, meaning His death forgave their sins, He died for the sins of the believing ones, God does not punish Jesus for someone who's sins are not forgiven if you think the atonement forgives sin and Jesus knew who all His sheep were when He died, you agree with the concept of particular redemption its not a question of "Can Jesus's death forgive all sins" because everyone affirms its a question of what did it ACTUALLY do? what did the atonement achieve?
Corey, you are a smart Christian. I have a lot of respect for you and thank you for what you are doing with your Chanel, you quoted a lot of scripture wisely, but I still think some larger context was not considered here, and I would have to disagree with some of these points. All glory to God. No man can boast for saving himself or being any smarter or better. We have to have faith and take some responsibility in it though. Christ will not fail us, and we definitely couldn’t do it on our own. We do have to receive what he has provided and remain faithful. That being said faith is not any kind of meritorious work. All Glory to God for “electing” to offer salvation to Jews and Gentiles alike! According to his plan and timing!
Hes just another calvinist who pretends not to be a Calvinist, to better overcome the resistance non-Calvinists have toward Calvinsm. His arguments are like a juggler, juggling a couple of balls between his two hands, yet keeping silent about all the Biblical truths there are besides those two juggling balls, the dialectical conclusions he's acting like are all there are. He pushes lots of non sequiturs, but does so in a folksy, "soul-ful", "Amen?" way, which means you'd better not disagree with the "man of God", whom we allow to do all our thinking for us! I defended him quite a bit on the accusations of the money issue, but I'm not going to "amen" his non sequiturs. _Non sequitur_ means "it does not follow". If the Bible tells us things that _do not follow,_ or agree with those non sequiturs, do not give them an "amen!", even though he subtly uses emotion and cultural identification to coerce you to agree. The truth of scripture is too important, and the lies against the truth are too damaging. We are to bring down "strongholds" that "exalt themselves against the knowledge of God", not uphold them, just to flatter men, and get along with the church people.
@@joshuamyers34 "No man can boast for saving himself or being any smarter or better. We have to have faith and take some responsibility in it though" faith is a gift from God... if you say that you accepted the gift that someone else rejected, you are boasting that YOU are the reason you are saved.... " Christ will not fail us, and we definitely couldn’t do it on our own. We do have to receive what he has provided and remain faithful" where is that in the Bible? Corey backs up all his points with Scripture, you are arguing from your evangelical decisionism tradition....
To follow Christ we must have discipline and self-control control too. God spirit is not going to change us by itself. Free will is never taken away. We have choices but God requires us to make right fair and just decisions. God, Holy Spirit, discipline, and self-control we can change. We have to make decisions and we have a part in it, to change our lifestyle and walk with God. We just cannot think God and Holy Spirit is just going to change you. For example we have resist the devil. It doesn't say the Holy Spirit its says you have to. Discipline and self-control are part of God's spirit it is a choose to enforce them in our lives. So no one can brag but it is still God's spirit to enforce them. Again we have to choose to follow or not. Always remember when God commands something it is meant to be done. Its is not wait until the Holy Spirit take it away. He means do it now remember John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commands. We have workout our salvation which its work we have to do too. Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
if you change a pig who loves slop into a man, will that man eat slop or will he eat good tasting food? "free will is never taken away" you are idolizing free will.... you think your will can overpower God? who resists His will?
There is Nothing Wrong With Boasting in the Lord involves us giving glory, praise and honor to God for who he is and the good things he has done. Boasting in the Lord is not self-seeking or self-gratifying
Acts 2:40 " And Peter testified with many other words, and exhorted them saying, " Save yourselves from this crooked generation. So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day 3000 souls." v47 " And the Lord added to ....those who were being saved." Doing what Jesus said is being saved by faith and according to Romans 3:27 boasting is excluded through the LAW OF FAITH. Baptism is a part of the law of faith, look at Col 2:12 "you were buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised WITH HIM THROUGH FAITH IN THE WORKING OF GOD". Gal 3:26-27 " For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith. For as many of you AS WERE BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST". Yes, saved by faith, an obedient faith and saved by faith when we are baptized into Christ. Matt 7:24 " Every one then who hears these words of mine AND DOES THEM WILL BE LIKE A WISE MAN...and every one who hears these words of mine AND DOES NOT DO THEM, IS LIKE A FOOLISH MAN.."
How can one believe in a back loaded works gospel (which most Christians seem to believe nowadays) and say they dont boast in their salvation? Lol Lets be real even if they dont boast about their "works" contributing to their salvation, they will sure boast about their "obedience" and some how some way that isnt the same thing lol
Uou are wrong. That passage speaks of Israel, who God HARDENED THEIR HEARTS. Read: TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE , DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEART' WHO HARDENS THE HEART? US
What are you talking about? Isaiah 49 is cited in the passage which CLEARLY talks about salvation for the Gentiles not merely Israel. For so the Lord has commanded us, saying, “‘I have made you a light for the 👉🏾Gentiles👈🏾, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’” (Acts 13:47 ESVi)
Only in the sense that Peter told the Jews in the audience on the day of Pentecost to *"save yourselves from this untoward generation!"* Those who received Jesus's through faith on that day: were they boasting? Were they proud? Were they "their own saviors"? Those who were saved on the day of Pentecost were proud of themselves, because they "save(d) themselves from this untoward generation"? What did Peter (filled with the Holy Spirit!) mean by "save yourselves"? Was it not simply that they *avail themselves of the gift of God Jesus gave them,* when He let them put Him to death? One thing they were not was "their own saviors". I bet that no one who obeyed Peter and got saved through faith in Jesus thought he or she were "their own saviors". The false boast that we can decree things has exactly zero to do with the fact that receiving or rejecting the gospel is gicen to us, and therefore, we are rightly held accountable for it. This has nothing to do with pride. The publican was certainly not prideful as he begged God to be merciful to him, a sinner. Yet Jesus gives him credit for the fact that his true self-humbling, and true contrition, are why he went home forgiven. But to hear Calvinists tell it, they would condemn the man of self-righteousness, since it was what he did in relation to the conviction of the Holy Spirit that met God's requirement for forgiving him. See, God brought both the conviction of his sin, the ability to believe, according to that conviction, and the persuasion of Bible verses that told him that *God is gracious and there is mercy in Him,* and that reasoned with him *to turn to Him,* and *though his sins were as scarlet, they would be white as wool..Though they be red like crimson, they would be white as snow.* In John 3, Jesus said *"And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and MEN preferred darkness because their deeds were evil."* Contrary to the trend to ignore the words of Jesus as not theological enough, as though His words are meaningless or untrue, I believe I will continue to look to Him for His wisdom, and ignore the words of theologians and theology geeks (full of their own "smartness") who ignore Him or make Him a liar.
@@jalapeno.tabasco Ezekiel (and it is God, _through_ Ezekiel) is talking about the same salvation we receive, but he is talking to the Jews, when He gathers them from out of the world, and they believe. So some of it applies to salvation, but some of it applies to God gatherig the Jews back. Ezekiel 23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. What i probably disagree with you about is that yes, God can do those things, yet not acting irresistibly to force some people to be given a new heart, yet pteventing others from getting a nrw heart. If you simply leave out everything God's word says that states or implies that we are rightfully held accountable for our responses to the word and the Holy Spirit, you might think that a "monergistic" understanding is correct. But in order to come to that conclusion, you have to deafen yourself to all the scripture that states or implies otherwise. Then, God just pushing His way through monergistically, caring not at all about most people, but giving a few an illusion of grave, consequential choice and responsibility, that would sound pious, because you're bowing to God's strength and power, although abandoning the cause of His righteousness and truth. But all "gods", including Baal and Marduk, have strength and power and act sovereignly, according to their narratives. But our God is different from the other gods. When He makes a truth statement or a promise, He's just as sovereign in that being what He wamts to say, and is saying, in His eternal, unchanging word, as anything else He does. And He values His word above His own name! . When He spoke something that contradicts "monergism" (a humanly devised abstraction, NOT a bible doctrine!), it was Him exercising His sovereinty, too, and again, He does teach moral responsibility; He does not teach monergism in the Bible. That came from theologians, not from the Bible. God can "do all His pleasure", everything it is His pleasure to do, YET He does not take pleasure in a lot of things that happen. That HAS to mean that everything that happens was not instigated, inspired, tempted, done or decreed by Him, because otherwise, He'd be a liar, and He cannot lie. See, beware of theology that subtly suggests that God can be a liar, or create moral evil, because it was "His pleasure" to do so. There are quite a few things that God says He will not do, and saying thst He can do anythijg Hw bloody well chooses to do, doesnt change that, because we have it in His eternal word, which Jesus said would never pass away, that He will never choose to do those things. There is a subtle turning away from Gods truth and righteousness in favor of mere brute strength. Lots of false gods and lying spirits have strength and pretend "sovereignty", with which to oppress and trap people in lies. Beware any other God. Sadly, many of the online bible teachers have no particilar love for Gods truth, righteousness and holiness. They are pretty much about tearing down the truth of God, to get people to move on to the new religion.
@@lindajohnson4204 " God can do those things, yet not acting irresistibly to force some people to be given a new heart, yet pteventing others from getting a nrw heart." the text says "i WILL take away the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh" i don't see anywhere in this text where there is a condition that must be met before God does these things.... its a promise, not a "i MIGHT do these things" do you know why God takes out their hearts of stone and gives them hearts of flesh and puts His Spirit in them?
@@lindajohnson4204 " If you simply leave out everything God's word says that states or implies that we are rightfully held accountable for our responses to the word and the Holy Spirit, you might think that a "monergistic" understanding is correct." Romans 1 says everyone is condemned regardless of if they even hear the gospel the gospel is simply the means by which God saves His elect im curious to hear what you think happens to people who never hear the gospel?
@@lindajohnson4204 "because you're bowing to God's strength and power, although abandoning the cause of His righteousness and truth" you do realize that by God's righteousness and holiness, we are all deserving of hell, not a single one of our actions deserves salvation in the slightest? if God were to throw every single person into hell this instant, is that unjust? is there anyone who hasn't sinned and fallen short of the glory of God?
Yes God provided a way in His Son Christ . We could never save ourselves . Yet it is written . If one sins they know not God . Christ Himself asked that we who receive Him are to do the will of His Father . OUR Lord also warns us to remain in the vine which is He . So we can be fruitful . If we don't ? God will cut us out to be burned
John says we cannot receive Christ unless we are born of God(John 1) we must be born agani(John 3) no one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws and Jesus will not lose one that the Father gives Him(John 6) We must be born again in order to become a believing one
@@jalapeno.tabasco, that's odd, when Nicodemus asked how one could be born again, Jesus took him to task for not believing. Jesus never said, "Once you are born again, you'll believe."
@@TimothyFish "Jesus took him to task for not believing" you're adding the into the text... Jesus said unless you are born again, you cannot see the kingdom of God the kingdom of God was at hand... Matthew 3:2 Matthew 4:17 MArk 1:15
Ezekiel 18 since you are in the book of Ezekiel ... (Ezek 18:20 [KJV]) The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. let read even further ... (Ezek 18:21 [KJV]) But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. (Ezek 18:22 [KJV]) All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. (Ezek 18:23 [KJV]) Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live? but if the righteous turn away from his righteous then he will lose his salvation ... in the following verse ... (Ezek 18:24 [KJV]) But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. this is what jesus taught about doing good and avoiding evil if you want salvation ... but the choice is still yours ... he will not force anyone to do good or evil ... judgement comes by your action ... the people of isreal believe in god but they did not do what god wanted then to do ... they honor god with their mouth but their heart was far from god ... the only way that you love god is by not doing harm to people that is the biblical definition of love ... love god with all your heart mind and soul and love your neighbor as yourself ... by doing that you have fulfill the commandments of god ... and jesus who has the authority to give grace will see your action and give you grace ... is that boasting for following his commandments?
@@jalapeno.tabasco how many different righteousness do you know? ... righteousness is the opposite of wickedness but let see what the bible define righteousness ... (Ezek 18:21 [KJV]) But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. (Ezek 18:22 [KJV]) All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. it is not a contradiction ... what paul is using the old testament just as jesus was using the old testament to turn people from sin into righteousness can people turn their sin into righteousness? it is not easy but yes... god does no longer see you sin if you turn away from your sins ... Ezekiel 18 ... everyone sin at least once in their lifetime except jesus who never sin ... and that is why the true god anointed jesus to be king ... jesus is the god of the old testament who has a god in the new testament and has a god as a man after the resurrection ... he always had a god because the holy spirit is his father and god
@@jalapeno.tabasco i forgot to mention ... is paul always lead by the spirit?sinner... paul was mostly lead by his action .... paul was a teacher of the old testament ... jesus always had the spirit of god but paul only at time but he did ad the protection of god
You need to back up and read the passage that leads into this verse, rather than just ripping it out of context. Prior to this, we see that Paul and Barnabus had first preached to the Jews, but then presented the gospel to the Gentiles and many of the Gentiles were saved. But then the Jews came along behind Paul and Barnabus and tried to make the case that these people couldn't be saved because they weren't Jews. But Paul and Barnabus argued that the Gentiles could be saved. So, when we get to verse 48, "those appointed to eternal life" are people who had already put their faith in Jesus and what they are believing is what Paul and Barnabus said to counter what the Jews were saying. I know you don't consider yourself to be a Calvinist, but you are making the same mistake that Calvinist make by equating belief with salvation. Not every use of the word "believe" is talking about belief unto salvation. Verse 48 is an example of this. It is a simple, ordinary use of the word "believe", but it is being done by people who were already saved (ordained unto eternal life).
I am not a Calvinist though I agree with them on some points. I hold to a Literal Grammatical Historical hermeneutic. Here is how that hermeneutic works with this passage. ἐπίστευσαν ὅσοι ἦσαν τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον· They believed - as many as those who "WERE APPOINTED TO LIFE ETERNAL". You missed the entirety of the verse. Your disdain for election blinds you. τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιο this literally says "they had been appointed (by God) for eternal life. That's the point. even irrespective of believing (which they did and it certainly was in regards to salvation). The greek is crystal clear here
@@smartchristians, you missed the whole passage. Yes, these people "were appointed to life eternal," but the issue is that you think what they are believing in verse 48 is belief associated with salvation. When you back up and look at the events that lead up to verse 48, they had already had an opportunity to believe unto salvation, before there was this dispute between the Jews and Paul and Barnabus. So, if they were already believers (in Jesus Christ) at this point, it wouldn't be odd to call them "those who were appointed to life eternal" but at the same time, they were either going to believe what the Jews were saying or what Paul and Barnabus were saying about the salvation that they had already received. The statement that "they believed" is simply saying that they accepted what Paul and Barnabus were teaching.
You are not paying attention. There is a reason I gave you the greek. It is irrefutable. Even if you were correct about believing (which according to the greek, you are not) But the question is What were they appointed to by God? Eternal life. And since this is in the perfect tense in Greek, then clearly this appointing was prior . The fact is They were appointed to eternal life by God and not by their belief. Please deal with the greek.
@@smartchristians, I don't disagree with you on the Greek. I agree completely that God is the one who appoints people to eternal life. Where I disagree with you is in your thinking that the word "believe" in verse 48 puts the order of salvation as appointing by God and then belief unto salvation. I think we see the belief unto salvation in verse 44. But the Jews were upset because "the crowds" were Gentiles. It may not be all of these crowds who had already believed, so that's probably why Luke used the phrase "those who were appointed unto eternal life." If he were writing today, he probably would've used the phrase, "those who were saved." What they believed was the statement about being sent to the Gentiles. No one believes that believing that statement is "saving faith." It appears to me that Luke's reference to some of these people as "those who were appointed unto eternal life" gives us evidence that they had already believed when they gathered as a crowd.
@@TimothyFishThere is nothing in the passage indicating that PRIOR believing was the reason for the appointing. Why cannot you simply follow the flow of the statements along with the grammar as presented?
@7:14 You went to John 3:6, I wish you could explained John 3:5. John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 1 John 5:6 Jesus Christ was revealed as God’s Son by his baptism in water... 1 Peter 3:20-21 only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you... Acts 8:36 “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?”
John 3 is contrasting physical birth with spiritual birth, so it is likely that, in John 3:5, Jesus is emphasizing that it isn't sufficient to be born through a physical birth (of water) but one must also be born of a spiritual birth (born again). Of course, the difficulty with that interpretation is that we don't have a clear secondary example of it being used in that way. But then, we don't have a clear secondary example of the term "born again" either, but that one gets thrown around like the meaning is obvious.
@@TimothyFish 1 Corinthians 15:50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever. John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water... TO DESTROY 2 Peter 3:5 the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God...v6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood. TO SAVE 1 Peter 3:20-21 those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ...
@@hehehe23451, that not what John 3:5 says. It actually says, "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." But to understand what is meant by that, we need to take into account the verses that are around it. We can't just assume that "born of water" means water baptism. Jesus could have easily have said, "a man must be baptized and filled with the Spirit," but that's not what he said. He says, "except a man be born..." and then he talks about what appears to be two kinds of birth. But he's already talking about two kinds of birth (being born physically and born again spiritually). If he is only talking about two kinds of birth, then it fits that water birth is physical birth. Given that a woman's water breaks when she gives birth, it fits. If that isn't the case, then it makes it seem like he's talking about three or four kinds of birth, none of which are made clear, or he is involving a physical action in something that is spiritual, which doesn't make sense. It seems most probable that the born of water is referring to physical birth.
@@TimothyFish "the born of water is referring to physical birth." 1 Corinthians 15:50 physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. JESUS EXAMPLE (born of water) John 3:5 no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water... 1 John 5:6 Jesus Christ was revealed as God’s Son by his baptism in water... Matthew 3:16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. Matthew 3:16 At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.
@@hehehe23451, you keep stopping when you get to "water." Jesus didn't stop with "water" in John 3:5. He was contrasting the view that Nicodemus had of birth with spiritual birth. So, you have "water" which is what Nicodemus saw as birth and you have Spirit, which is what Jesus meant by "born again." I suspect you are trying to advocate for some kind of works based salvation that requires you to be baptized. Nothing in the context supports that.
*Why do you assume non Calvinists believe they can save themselves?? Can anyone reading these comments name someone who says that?? Why are you getting on TH-cam and Lying? and then claim you are a Christian??*
A guy named John Calvin read just what you did, and wanted to talk about it. Most people hate talking about what you just read and they hate it. Why? I don't know. It's really good news. Ok ok, it's not good news if you are not appointed to see what you see and teach. I am NOT saying to become a Calvinist. Skip that and just stay with being a Bible reader and believer.
@@jalapeno.tabasco Yeah, I know. I didn't even know it was a giant debate for decades. I just read it and believed it. I get called A Calvinist and don't even know about the guy. He must have read it and believed it too. I think I have to say I made Jesus Lord of my life to stay out of religious debates. Corey shows a clip of a man saying "You can be stupid and still be saved," from time to time. I guess that would fit me. I believed the gospel long long before I ever knew any theology. I heard the gospel when I was 7 years old and it was good news to me, and I just believed it. I didn't know lots of people didn't.
I actually like this passage. Calvinists are notorious for having two kinds of everything. In this passage, we have a clear example of two kinds of belief (belief unto salvation and belief in what Paul and Barnabus taught them after they were saved), but Calvinists want to say that the only belief is the belief unto salvation.
@@orangeandslinky, you're missing the point. The passage is saying that they believed Barnabus. It isn't saying that belief resulted in their salvation. It appears that they had already believed in Jesus before this statement about them believing Barnabus occurred.
So you teach mankind has no choice then right? Why is God knocking on the hearts of all mankind if we don’t have a choice? So you teach mankind has no free will? That’s what I see and hear. Before the foundation of the world God knew who would accept but mankind has to personally accept what He did for them personally. Why would the scriptures say God is preaching to even those who won’t accept Him if they didn’t have a choice to do so? Yes God has done everything but man has to do two things. Believe and place that faith in that belief. That’s why it’s a free gift of salvation. He knocks on the door of your heart and you choose to open the door and He presents His free gift of salvation to you and by faith and believing you accept it then He closes and locks the door behind Him permanently sealed with His Spirit as a guarantee of eternal salvation eternal life. That’s what being born again spiritually alive means. Now your a new creation in Christ because you choose to accept Him. So yes mankind has a choice.
Through the apostle John in Revelation 2-3, Jesus addressed seven letters to seven churches in Asia Minor. They were individualized letters of instruction, rebuke, and encouragement to the local congregations. To the last church, the lukewarm church in Laodicea, Jesus made this urgent plea: “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me” (Revelation 3:20). The idea of Jesus standing at a door and knocking is often used as an illustration of Jesus’ offer of salvation to individuals: if you would only “open your heart’s door” and let Jesus into your life, all will be well. But in Revelation 3:20, Jesus is not pleading with an individual to be saved; He’s seeking admittance to a church! It’s alarming to think of Jesus standing outside of the church and knocking, but that’s the position He was in. The Laodicean church had shut the door on the Head of the church; they were smug in their prosperity, but Jesus was left standing in the cold. He was an outsider to the hearts of the entire congregation.
where does it say God is knocking on all the hearts of all mankind? you heard that from someone, not in the Bible you cannot make yourself born of God or born again
@@jalapeno.tabasco revelations 3:20 and just do a new covenant testament will word search on “heart” and read not only the verses but the context there written in
@@driver26swx31 that’s error because the true church is His body of believers all over the world past present and future. God did not come to form the following; church buildings church religion because He already had a form of religion called what? What did that make there followers? So why do you think God wanted that in the new covenant testament will? Man started buildings to what? Control and keep people under bondage. Christ didn’t come to form any religion. He came to restore the relationship back with His creation. Good grief as smart as y’all keep telling me you are just what does the word “religion” mean? Look it up. In the early days there were no buildings like today. Don’t you read the scriptures? They met in homes in fields openly daily growing in the truth. One big reason why folks don’t understand is because they not hearing truth
@@jcwindevillose revelation says nothing about the heart.... where does it say God knocks on the heart of all men and wait for them to let Him in? spoiler: NOWHERE
we know that jesus is the judge those who do good with those who do evil ... it is all over the gospels and in revelation ... those who do good are righteous and those who do evil are sinners ... and the sinner are the one that serve satan unless he turn from his sin into righteousness ... i am not the one saying that ... jesus is the one saying that in the gospels ... but if you want to believe that you can continual to sin and still be save then you are saying that you know more than jesus and then god ... just read the gospels ... jesus forgave the adulteress and then told her not to sin ... because those who sin serve the devil ... and many more example in the gospels ... we are not boasting if and when we do good because it is a command from god ... that command is love your neighbor as your self ... how do you love your neighbor ... by doing good and avoiding to do evil to him ... and that is how you love god with your heart ... or is the translation of the bible wrong?
@@jalapeno.tabasco let see what the scripture said ... (Ezek 14:14 [KJV]) Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver [but] their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD. (Matt 3:15 [KJV]) And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. (Luke 1:6 [KJV]) And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. are there people who are righteous? ... according to the bible they are people who are righteous
If people don't have the ability to make a decision, then is God being disingenuous when He commands men to "choose ye this day whom you will serve"? To "choose life"? God COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent. If God commands the choice upon all, but only empowers the choice for some, then I sense an incoherence. You sound like a 5-point Calvinist - and Calvinism has no Gospel, no "good news of glad tidings that shall be to ALL people". And absolutely no one who made a decision to repent and believe in Christ claims that they "saved themselves".
Why does God the Father call Jesus GOD. New International Version But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. Berean Standard Bible And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. King James Bible I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, (THE Almighty) King James Bible (I am he that liveth, and was dead;) and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. King James Bible Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. King James Bible He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. King James Bible And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY. ALL THE PROPHECIES EVER SINCE THE BOOK OF GENESIS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED. The bible says that the word became a man. (FLESH) New International Version Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;) In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh). What was he? John 1:14 = GOD became man. HE WAS GOD, ONE MEMBER OF THE TRIUNE GODHEAD. BECAUSE GOD EXISTS IN 3 FATHER, SON, AND HOLYSPIRIT. So before Jesus took on flesh HE was one with THE FATHER. Sharing the glory with THE FATHER , SELF EXISTING WITH THE FATHER IN TOTAL HARMONY, AND IN PERFECT UNION. THE bible says THE WORD took on the form of a servant . New International Version philippians 2:7 rather, HE made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. In order to take on the role of a servant, HE could not have been a servant. JESUS was not a servant until HE took On flesh, HE existed before HE took on flesh, but he wasn't a servant.HE IS God just Like the FATHER and just like the HOLYSPIRIT JESUS said if you don't believe me, believe the works the miracles THAT I DONE. New International Version john 10:38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the FATHER is in me, and I in the FATHER.” It is very clear that Jesus was doing the things, That only God can do. If doing the things that only God can do Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind. What more can you possibly want HE lived out a life greater than anything written can explain. He lived a sinless and perfect life. New International Version 2 corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all ! NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE. HE LIVED THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE. HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD CAN DO. HE FORGIVES SINS. HE GIVES LIFE. HE IS THE SAVIOR. HE GAVE SIGHT TO THE BLIND. HE HEALED THE SICK HE WALKED ON WATER. HE CALMED THE STORM. HE CHANGED PEOPLE FROM THE INSIDE. HE SHINED LIGHT INTO THE DARKNESS. HE RAISED THE DEAD, HE RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE GRAVE, CONQUERING DEATH. HE SAID ALL THAT BELONGS TO THE FATHER IS MINE. WHO CAN MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT. THE LIST GOES ON. HE SAID IN JOHN 8:24 King James Bible I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.
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“And when the disciples heard this, they were astonished and said, Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, ‘With man that is IMPOSSIBLE! But with GOD, ALL things are possible!” Matthew 19:25-26. Only GOD can save someone. He gets 💯% of the glory!
Amen we cannot save ourselves, it is God that saves us however we do have to respond!
so God cannot save you unless you let Him?
@@jalapeno.tabasco Yes our part is to receive him, who? Christ Jesus according to John 1:12
Many people reject the gospel. Those who reject God's grace are not saved. What we can not determine is whether or not the Holy Spirit witnessed to those who reject the gospel of grace. I know from personal experience that I ran from God for a long time even though the Holy Spirit convicted me of my sin. Eventually I came to the end of myself and surrendered to God . I don't know if there are those like me who never repented or not.
@@wayneallen2223 and who receives Christ Jesus according to verse 13?
it amazes me how yall read verses by ignoring the context, and ignoring the plain meaning....
@@jalapeno.tabasco ”But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“
John 1:12-13 NKJV
According to your plain reading of the text, how does verse 13 tell you who receives Christ Jesus.
If we could save ourselves we wouldn’t need Jesus but thank the Lord we do have Him amen❤
Happy Sunday fellow Christians. I pray you have a blessed, fruitful week.
Thank you very much. May you also have a fruitful week.🍇
This is why I watch this channel! You have basic humility. You like me have been broken to the point of understanding the importance of the Word of God and even better that it is BECAUSE of God we were saved in the first place. The Lord pursued me. He gets ALL of the glory for my salvation. I have read the Bible completely through 3xs now. I wake up early every morning to read first thing. I have a longing to know and please Him. This is NOT in my own strength. I was an Atheists. I wasn't anywhere near a church when I was saved. I had a little church background from occasionally attending different churches with friends growing up and once a year with my grandparents. I knew nothing about the Lord. I lost my faith when I was 14. I kept it secret for years. He saved me on my job 3 days after my 30th birthday. Hallelujah. A co-worker prayed with me (I didn't know she was a missionary) I changed that very minute. I was filled with joy! Everything looked different. I was excited and thirsty to learn more. My eagerness was the Holy Spirit! Reading the Word feeds your Spirit. I do nothing good or holy on my own. I only persist because The Lord let me break first. God is in control. Do not fool yourself. We are like 2 year olds without supervision on our own. We are "Can't get right" if you all remember that. I will NEVER take any credit for any good I do. I am just blessed God chose to show me mercy and I am forever in His debt. I am unworthy. Period.
Amen! Well explained as always Brother Corey!
Well said. All God, none of us.
Amen.
Give God all the credit and all the glory for His Grace is sufficient for us.
Hallelujah! Praise Jesus! 🙏✝️❤️💪💪! God’s love is everlasting!
When we attempt to do it, it becomes self-righteousness., If we could stop sending, we wouldn't need Our brother Jesus Christ
2 Corinthians 10:7, AMEN to the word
Interesting scripture filled message, thanks
2 Peter 1 10-11 we must make our calling and election sure!
Great teaching and true. We all ain't righteous....We aren't worth anything without Jesus Christ.
Boasting about your salvation is committing a sin of presumption against Hope.
God’s arms are always open waiting for us to surrender fully, and the Holy Spirit will then transform us from within. It’s a matter of the heart.
The choice to surrender is our choice, but GOD/The HS is who saves us thru Jesus Sacrifice and resurrection.
We don’t deserve it, but by Grace we are saved.
If God had to wait on us to actively take the first step, then I'm afraid heaven would be very lonely place. But praise be to God, in that while we were yet sinners, He made the first move and individually chose every person who is saved.
John 6:37-44
That's not biblical... that's what man has made up about GOD
@@jtbtdlkt2012 She didn't say a word about us "taking the first step". Obviously, we don't, and could never, take the first step toward God! And _nobody_ believes that we do, despite all the false accusations that we do, flying around.
What we can do is *respond* to the gospel, the *"power of God unto salvation":* the word of God, with the Holy Spirit making it real to our hearts, when we are being convicted by the Spirit, to get us to believe snd be saved.
@@jalapeno.tabasco And John 12:31-33. They are not in competition with each other, you know. The true interpretations agree.
No need to suppress John 12:32, anymore: what a concept.
Thank you!!!
Salvation is a Gift from your Heavenly Father!!! GLORIFY the LORD and He will GLORIFY you!!! Amen!!!
❤ JesusChrist gives you the VICTORY over the Works of Darkness!!! ❤
We are NOT Christians! We are Descipled to make Desciples of Others!!! Amen!!! Be ye Holy for thou art Holy!!! ❤
🎉🎉🎉 HolySpirit Approved 🎉🎉🎉
You still have to freely choose it.
@@FrankinSmiththeology when will you stop taking credit for your salvation?
@@jalapeno.tabasco I never have
@@FrankinSmiththeology did God save you because He wanted to or because you did something first?
I Love this video, always look at John 6:44 on this subject.
God KNOWS ALREADY (WHO) he's going to SAVE,but NO MAN KNOWS.
For this reason BELIEVERS should spread the Gospel whenever the opportunity presents itself.
Brother Corey wow I didn't know you were under Bishop Watson an Mother Watson, I was under them an elder Byrd in Germany at His 1st chruch in velseck (Hour of Prayer) , many years ago but left Cogic as well after leaving the Army . Well bless you brother I listen too your videos daily
Amen!
We are ‘called’ ‘chosen’ God is the one who brings sinners to ‘Repentance and Restoration.’ We respond in obedience and it’s God who keeps us.
Romans 1 couldn't make it any clearer
"those called by God"
No no no! I made the correct choice and I humbled myself enough to accept Jesus. I can claim some of that glory and boast, but I'm too pious for that; so instead I will give God a nod and a wink and say He did it all (but we both know I did the heavy lifting here). 😮
That was all tongue in cheek by the way. Couldnt those arguments be made by the other side though?
Brother Corey, how do you keep saying you aren't a Calvinist lol; just take the leap brother, there's plenty of room.
he's already a 4 point calvinist without realizing it lol
Amen
Amen🕊️
Hello fellow Smart Christians...I pray you all are enjoying a peaceful and blessed Sunday.
Amen!🙏🏾
Amen!!!
We have a real choice to make. It's either life or death...but the problem is that we will never choose life unless we first hear the Word of God which cuts to the heart and brings faith to choose (HEB 4, Rom 10, Deut 31) --- the Gospel preached, the Word of God is the power and grace that enables us to beleive which is why God sends us out as preachers. This is why Jesus went and preached the gospel to the saints in Abraham's bosom who died in faith.
If God never gave his powerful Word which brings faith and enables us to choose, we would never be able to attain salvation, it would be forever out of reach.
Did I choose life that I may live? Absolutely! But I never would have been able to choose without God first sending his Word which cuts to the heart, convicts of sin and shows me the need of a savior. And for that, I am eternally grateful. God's word is powerful enough to cut to the heart of the worst sinner imaginable. But of course we see in HEB 4, that many will be cut to the heart and have the opportunity to beleive, but like Israel, they will rebel against what they know is true and be hardened by sin.
Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
what exactly separates you from an unbeliever? why did they reject while you chose?
@@driver26swx31 yeah - he chose us in him.
Us in him = beleivers. Those who are of faith.
God has always chosen people of faith from the beginning.
@@jalapeno.tabasco idk, but does that matter? I'm not concerned with God's plan of salvation being fair for everyone.
If God is the one who enables people to choose life or death through the power of His word preached, then He gets the glory.
Actually I do know why...Romans 1 teaches it.
Romans 1:18
God's Wrath on Unrighteousness
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
Romans 1:19-21 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Paul says the difference is that some suppress the truth by their unrighteousness. The word of God preached reveals the truth but some still decide to continue in sin a d becomes hardened and decieved.
@@BEABEREAN10 i always laugh when I see your name, be a berean 😂 u should take your own advice
why did God choose Israel? because of their faith? because they did something that earned them that choosing but God?
So can you explain what our part ad humans is in salvation? I get twisted in knots thinking about it.
AMEN
If God chooses to save me, but ignores others, doesn't that promote Boasting? Look how great i am that God chose me over all my friends.
4 and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and his offering, 5 but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. 6 The LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it." (Genesis 4:4-7, ESV)
God, speaking to Israel, we can use that principle for today.the holy Spirit will convict the world of sin, ,the Holy Spirit will bring ,us where we can hear the word of God , but we have to hear the word of God and get convict but it up to us to accept the gift of God ,Jesus paid it all but God said chose life and live. We have to accept or reject his gift of salvation. we have a role to play too.
1 Corinthians 1:26-28
26 For your calling, brethren, that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame them that are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong; 28 and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised, did God choose, yea and the things that are not, that he might bring to nought the things that are:
This seems on odd footing with the interview you did with Leighton Flowers (on Calvinism?). Can you explain how his view (provisionism?) does not lead to Arminianism nor opem theism?
I lean towards being a 4 points calvinist/doctrines of grace, who doesn't believe limited atonement is biblical but have a hard time seeing in scripture people not being able to resist God, even to the damnation of thier soul. People according to scripture aren't born reprobate nor does regeneration precede saving faith. Can you show me in scripture otherwise?
Free will isn't saving yourself. I don't know how people are that confused
Amen… God calls, God knocks, God works in us to respond, God Saves, God Fills Us, God Keeps us…
I don’t like the phrase “free will”, but God has created us with the ability to understand an argument and respond to said argument either by accepting or rejecting said argument.
Is the Holy Spirit working in us during the accept or reject phase?Absolutely… as God wants none to perish…
If God chooses, then it’s super sad that God has only chosen about 10%-20% of the entire population that ever existed.
I wish he would have chosen to save 100% to cause all humans to walk according to his ways.
But I guess God has chosen to limit the number of entries into the pearly gates…
Maybe God loves the lottery system… 🤔
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5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. 6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.' (Revelation 3:5-6, ESV)
read the last 10 words of the verses you just pasted
You said is someone can disprove you on once saved aways saved then I can with scriptures I accept your challenge let's have a live chat
oh no, people are gonna call Corey a Calvinist for saying what the Bible says 😂
Maybe Calvin was right if you use the scripture
@@kgar5String Corey affirms unconditional election, irresistible grace and perseverance of the saints, the puts him in opposition with Arminians and the Leighton Flower's followers 😂 Corey is basically a Calvinist who doesn't realize it
he disagrees with the T and the L because of how people define it, the T basically means total inability(which this video shows Corey agrees with) and the biggest point of debate even among predestinarians is limited atonement which isn't a good term
its particular redemption, the death forgives son, it actually does something, John 3:16 Jesus came to save the believing ones, meaning His death forgave their sins, He died for the sins of the believing ones, God does not punish Jesus for someone who's sins are not forgiven
if you think the atonement forgives sin and Jesus knew who all His sheep were when He died, you agree with the concept of particular redemption
its not a question of "Can Jesus's death forgive all sins" because everyone affirms
its a question of what did it ACTUALLY do? what did the atonement achieve?
Corey, you are a smart Christian. I have a lot of respect for you and thank you for what you are doing with your Chanel, you quoted a lot of scripture wisely, but I still think some larger context was not considered here, and I would have to disagree with some of these points. All glory to God. No man can boast for saving himself or being any smarter or better. We have to have faith and take some responsibility in it though. Christ will not fail us, and we definitely couldn’t do it on our own. We do have to receive what he has provided and remain faithful. That being said faith is not any kind of meritorious work. All Glory to God for “electing” to offer salvation to Jews and Gentiles alike! According to his plan and timing!
Hes just another calvinist who pretends not to be a Calvinist, to better overcome the resistance non-Calvinists have toward Calvinsm. His arguments are like a juggler, juggling a couple of balls between his two hands, yet keeping silent about all the Biblical truths there are besides those two juggling balls, the dialectical conclusions he's acting like are all there are. He pushes lots of non sequiturs, but does so in a folksy, "soul-ful", "Amen?" way, which means you'd better not disagree with the "man of God", whom we allow to do all our thinking for us! I defended him quite a bit on the accusations of the money issue, but I'm not going to "amen" his non sequiturs.
_Non sequitur_ means "it does not follow". If the Bible tells us things that _do not follow,_ or agree with those non sequiturs, do not give them an "amen!", even though he subtly uses emotion and cultural identification to coerce you to agree. The truth of scripture is too important, and the lies against the truth are too damaging. We are to bring down "strongholds" that "exalt themselves against the knowledge of God", not uphold them, just to flatter men, and get along with the church people.
@@joshuamyers34 "No man can boast for saving himself or being any smarter or better. We have to have faith and take some responsibility in it though"
faith is a gift from God...
if you say that you accepted the gift that someone else rejected, you are boasting that YOU are the reason you are saved....
" Christ will not fail us, and we definitely couldn’t do it on our own. We do have to receive what he has provided and remain faithful"
where is that in the Bible? Corey backs up all his points with Scripture, you are arguing from your evangelical decisionism tradition....
Corey what about “We are fellow-workers (synergoi) with God” (1 Corinthians iii, 9); both parties actively participate in salvation. (Not Pelagianism)
To follow Christ we must have discipline and self-control control too. God spirit is not going to change us by itself. Free will is never taken away. We have choices but God requires us to make right fair and just decisions. God, Holy Spirit, discipline, and self-control we can change. We have to make decisions and we have a part in it, to change our lifestyle and walk with God. We just cannot think God and Holy Spirit is just going to change you. For example we have resist the devil. It doesn't say the Holy Spirit its says you have to. Discipline and self-control are part of God's spirit it is a choose to enforce them in our lives. So no one can brag but it is still God's spirit to enforce them. Again we have to choose to follow or not. Always remember when God commands something it is meant to be done. Its is not wait until the Holy Spirit take it away. He means do it now remember John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commands. We have workout our salvation which its work we have to do too. Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
if you change a pig who loves slop into a man, will that man eat slop or will he eat good tasting food?
"free will is never taken away" you are idolizing free will.... you think your will can overpower God? who resists His will?
There is Nothing Wrong With Boasting in the Lord involves us giving glory, praise and honor to God for who he is and the good things he has done. Boasting in the Lord is not self-seeking or self-gratifying
Acts 2:40 " And Peter testified with many other words, and exhorted them saying, " Save yourselves from this crooked generation. So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day 3000 souls." v47 " And the Lord added to ....those who were being saved." Doing what Jesus said is being saved by faith and according to Romans 3:27 boasting is excluded through the LAW OF FAITH. Baptism is a part of the law of faith, look at Col 2:12 "you were buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised WITH HIM THROUGH FAITH IN THE WORKING OF GOD". Gal 3:26-27 " For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith. For as many of you AS WERE BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST". Yes, saved by faith, an obedient faith and saved by faith when we are baptized into Christ. Matt 7:24 " Every one then who hears these words of mine AND DOES THEM WILL BE LIKE A WISE MAN...and every one who hears these words of mine AND DOES NOT DO THEM, IS LIKE A FOOLISH MAN.."
Sure is a hot topic today. This much is certain, Jesus will save his people from their sins.
Yes ! The ones who freely choose Him
@FrankinSmiththeology I did freely choose him. Immediately after 2 Corinthians 4:6 happened to me. Before that, I was described in verse 4.
@@ogmakefirefiregood Told you it was free will
@FrankinSmiththeology great! Exercise that free will of yours to never sin again.
@@ogmakefirefiregood It's yours too . That's what is happening
How can one believe in a back loaded works gospel (which most Christians seem to believe nowadays) and say they dont boast in their salvation? Lol
Lets be real even if they dont boast about their "works" contributing to their salvation, they will sure boast about their "obedience" and some how some way that isnt the same thing lol
Uou are wrong. That passage speaks of Israel, who God HARDENED THEIR HEARTS.
Read:
TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE , DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEART'
WHO HARDENS THE HEART? US
What are you talking about? Isaiah 49 is cited in the passage which CLEARLY talks about salvation for the Gentiles not merely Israel.
For so the Lord has commanded us, saying, “‘I have made you a light for the 👉🏾Gentiles👈🏾, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
(Acts 13:47 ESVi)
Only in the sense that Peter told the Jews in the audience on the day of Pentecost to *"save yourselves from this untoward generation!"* Those who received Jesus's through faith on that day: were they boasting? Were they proud? Were they "their own saviors"? Those who were saved on the day of Pentecost were proud of themselves, because they "save(d) themselves from this untoward generation"? What did Peter (filled with the Holy Spirit!) mean by "save yourselves"? Was it not simply that they *avail themselves of the gift of God Jesus gave them,* when He let them put Him to death?
One thing they were not was "their own saviors". I bet that no one who obeyed Peter and got saved through faith in Jesus thought he or she were "their own saviors".
The false boast that we can decree things has exactly zero to do with the fact that receiving or rejecting the gospel is gicen to us, and therefore, we are rightly held accountable for it. This has nothing to do with pride. The publican was certainly not prideful as he begged God to be merciful to him, a sinner. Yet Jesus gives him credit for the fact that his true self-humbling, and true contrition, are why he went home forgiven. But to hear Calvinists tell it, they would condemn the man of self-righteousness, since it was what he did in relation to the conviction of the Holy Spirit that met God's requirement for forgiving him. See, God brought both the conviction of his sin, the ability to believe, according to that conviction, and the persuasion of Bible verses that told him that *God is gracious and there is mercy in Him,* and that reasoned with him *to turn to Him,* and *though his sins were as scarlet, they would be white as wool..Though they be red like crimson, they would be white as snow.*
In John 3, Jesus said *"And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and MEN preferred darkness because their deeds were evil."* Contrary to the trend to ignore the words of Jesus as not theological enough, as though His words are meaningless or untrue, I believe I will continue to look to Him for His wisdom, and ignore the words of theologians and theology geeks (full of their own "smartness") who ignore Him or make Him a liar.
Ezekiel 36:25-27
@@jalapeno.tabasco Ezekiel (and it is God, _through_ Ezekiel) is talking about the same salvation we receive, but he is talking to the Jews, when He gathers them from out of the world, and they believe. So some of it applies to salvation, but some of it applies to God gatherig the Jews back.
Ezekiel 23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
What i probably disagree with you about is that yes, God can do those things, yet not acting irresistibly to force some people to be given a new heart, yet pteventing others from getting a nrw heart. If you simply leave out everything God's word says that states or implies that we are rightfully held accountable for our responses to the word and the Holy Spirit, you might think that a "monergistic" understanding is correct. But in order to come to that conclusion, you have to deafen yourself to all the scripture that states or implies otherwise. Then, God just pushing His way through monergistically, caring not at all about most people, but giving a few an illusion of grave, consequential choice and responsibility, that would sound pious, because you're bowing to God's strength and power, although abandoning the cause of His righteousness and truth. But all "gods", including Baal and Marduk, have strength and power and act sovereignly, according to their narratives. But our God is different from the other gods. When He makes a truth statement or a promise, He's just as sovereign in that being what He wamts to say, and is saying, in His eternal, unchanging word, as anything else He does. And He values His word above His own name! . When He spoke something that contradicts "monergism" (a humanly devised abstraction, NOT a bible doctrine!), it was Him exercising His sovereinty, too, and again, He does teach moral responsibility; He does not teach monergism in the Bible. That came from theologians, not from the Bible.
God can "do all His pleasure", everything it is His pleasure to do, YET He does not take pleasure in a lot of things that happen. That HAS to mean that everything that happens was not instigated, inspired, tempted, done or decreed by Him, because otherwise, He'd be a liar, and He cannot lie. See, beware of theology that subtly suggests that God can be a liar, or create moral evil, because it was "His pleasure" to do so. There are quite a few things that God says He will not do, and saying thst He can do anythijg Hw bloody well chooses to do, doesnt change that, because we have it in His eternal word, which Jesus said would never pass away, that He will never choose to do those things. There is a subtle turning away from Gods truth and righteousness in favor of mere brute strength. Lots of false gods and lying spirits have strength and pretend "sovereignty", with which to oppress and trap people in lies. Beware any other God. Sadly, many of the online bible teachers have no particilar love for Gods truth, righteousness and holiness. They are pretty much about tearing down the truth of God, to get people to move on to the new religion.
@@lindajohnson4204 " God can do those things, yet not acting irresistibly to force some people to be given a new heart, yet pteventing others from getting a nrw heart."
the text says "i WILL take away the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh"
i don't see anywhere in this text where there is a condition that must be met before God does these things.... its a promise, not a "i MIGHT do these things"
do you know why God takes out their hearts of stone and gives them hearts of flesh and puts His Spirit in them?
@@lindajohnson4204 " If you simply leave out everything God's word says that states or implies that we are rightfully held accountable for our responses to the word and the Holy Spirit, you might think that a "monergistic" understanding is correct."
Romans 1 says everyone is condemned regardless of if they even hear the gospel
the gospel is simply the means by which God saves His elect
im curious to hear what you think happens to people who never hear the gospel?
@@lindajohnson4204 "because you're bowing to God's strength and power, although abandoning the cause of His righteousness and truth"
you do realize that by God's righteousness and holiness, we are all deserving of hell, not a single one of our actions deserves salvation in the slightest? if God were to throw every single person into hell this instant, is that unjust? is there anyone who hasn't sinned and fallen short of the glory of God?
Yes God provided a way in His Son Christ . We could never save ourselves . Yet it is written . If one sins they know not God . Christ Himself asked that we who receive Him are to do the will of His Father . OUR Lord also warns us to remain in the vine which is He . So we can be fruitful . If we don't ? God will cut us out to be burned
John says we cannot receive Christ unless we are born of God(John 1) we must be born agani(John 3) no one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws and Jesus will not lose one that the Father gives Him(John 6)
We must be born again in order to become a believing one
@@jalapeno.tabasco, that's odd, when Nicodemus asked how one could be born again, Jesus took him to task for not believing. Jesus never said, "Once you are born again, you'll believe."
@@TimothyFish "Jesus took him to task for not believing"
you're adding the into the text...
Jesus said unless you are born again, you cannot see the kingdom of God
the kingdom of God was at hand...
Matthew 3:2
Matthew 4:17
MArk 1:15
Ezekiel 18 since you are in the book of Ezekiel ... (Ezek 18:20 [KJV])
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
let read even further ... (Ezek 18:21 [KJV])
But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
(Ezek 18:22 [KJV])
All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
(Ezek 18:23 [KJV])
Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live?
but if the righteous turn away from his righteous then he will lose his salvation ... in the following verse ...
(Ezek 18:24 [KJV])
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
this is what jesus taught about doing good and avoiding evil if you want salvation ... but the choice is still yours ... he will not force anyone to do good or evil ... judgement comes by your action ... the people of isreal believe in god but they did not do what god wanted then to do ... they honor god with their mouth but their heart was far from god ... the only way that you love god is by not doing harm to people that is the biblical definition of love ... love god with all your heart mind and soul and love your neighbor as yourself ... by doing that you have fulfill the commandments of god ... and jesus who has the authority to give grace will see your action and give you grace ... is that boasting for following his commandments?
Romans 3:9-20
@@jalapeno.tabasco if god said there are righteous people and paul said not one are righteous then who do you think is right? paul or god?
@@rafaelo2215 Paul is quoting a psalm from David... so both of them (led by the Spirit) are contradicting God?
can you define righteousness ?
@@jalapeno.tabasco how many different righteousness do you know? ... righteousness is the opposite of wickedness but let see what the bible define righteousness ...
(Ezek 18:21 [KJV])
But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
(Ezek 18:22 [KJV])
All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
it is not a contradiction ... what paul is using the old testament just as jesus was using the old testament to turn people from sin into righteousness can people turn their sin into righteousness? it is not easy but yes... god does no longer see you sin if you turn away from your sins ... Ezekiel 18 ... everyone sin at least once in their lifetime except jesus who never sin ... and that is why the true god anointed jesus to be king ... jesus is the god of the old testament who has a god in the new testament and has a god as a man after the resurrection ... he always had a god because the holy spirit is his father and god
@@jalapeno.tabasco i forgot to mention ... is paul always lead by the spirit?sinner... paul was mostly lead by his action .... paul was a teacher of the old testament ... jesus always had the spirit of god but paul only at time but he did ad the protection of god
You need to back up and read the passage that leads into this verse, rather than just ripping it out of context. Prior to this, we see that Paul and Barnabus had first preached to the Jews, but then presented the gospel to the Gentiles and many of the Gentiles were saved. But then the Jews came along behind Paul and Barnabus and tried to make the case that these people couldn't be saved because they weren't Jews. But Paul and Barnabus argued that the Gentiles could be saved. So, when we get to verse 48, "those appointed to eternal life" are people who had already put their faith in Jesus and what they are believing is what Paul and Barnabus said to counter what the Jews were saying.
I know you don't consider yourself to be a Calvinist, but you are making the same mistake that Calvinist make by equating belief with salvation. Not every use of the word "believe" is talking about belief unto salvation. Verse 48 is an example of this. It is a simple, ordinary use of the word "believe", but it is being done by people who were already saved (ordained unto eternal life).
I am not a Calvinist though I agree with them on some points. I hold to a Literal Grammatical Historical hermeneutic. Here is how that hermeneutic works with this passage. ἐπίστευσαν ὅσοι ἦσαν τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον· They believed - as many as those who "WERE APPOINTED TO LIFE ETERNAL". You missed the entirety of the verse. Your disdain for election blinds you. τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιο this literally says "they had been appointed (by God) for eternal life. That's the point. even irrespective of believing (which they did and it certainly was in regards to salvation). The greek is crystal clear here
@@smartchristians, you missed the whole passage. Yes, these people "were appointed to life eternal," but the issue is that you think what they are believing in verse 48 is belief associated with salvation. When you back up and look at the events that lead up to verse 48, they had already had an opportunity to believe unto salvation, before there was this dispute between the Jews and Paul and Barnabus. So, if they were already believers (in Jesus Christ) at this point, it wouldn't be odd to call them "those who were appointed to life eternal" but at the same time, they were either going to believe what the Jews were saying or what Paul and Barnabus were saying about the salvation that they had already received. The statement that "they believed" is simply saying that they accepted what Paul and Barnabus were teaching.
You are not paying attention. There is a reason I gave you the greek. It is irrefutable. Even if you were correct about believing (which according to the greek, you are not) But the question is What were they appointed to by God? Eternal life. And since this is in the perfect tense in Greek, then clearly this appointing was prior . The fact is They were appointed to eternal life by God and not by their belief. Please deal with the greek.
@@smartchristians, I don't disagree with you on the Greek. I agree completely that God is the one who appoints people to eternal life. Where I disagree with you is in your thinking that the word "believe" in verse 48 puts the order of salvation as appointing by God and then belief unto salvation. I think we see the belief unto salvation in verse 44. But the Jews were upset because "the crowds" were Gentiles. It may not be all of these crowds who had already believed, so that's probably why Luke used the phrase "those who were appointed unto eternal life." If he were writing today, he probably would've used the phrase, "those who were saved." What they believed was the statement about being sent to the Gentiles. No one believes that believing that statement is "saving faith." It appears to me that Luke's reference to some of these people as "those who were appointed unto eternal life" gives us evidence that they had already believed when they gathered as a crowd.
@@TimothyFishThere is nothing in the passage indicating that PRIOR believing was the reason for the appointing. Why cannot you simply follow the flow of the statements along with the grammar as presented?
@7:14 You went to John 3:6, I wish you could explained John 3:5.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.
1 John 5:6 Jesus Christ was revealed as God’s Son by his baptism in water...
1 Peter 3:20-21 only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you...
Acts 8:36 “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?”
John 3 is contrasting physical birth with spiritual birth, so it is likely that, in John 3:5, Jesus is emphasizing that it isn't sufficient to be born through a physical birth (of water) but one must also be born of a spiritual birth (born again). Of course, the difficulty with that interpretation is that we don't have a clear secondary example of it being used in that way. But then, we don't have a clear secondary example of the term "born again" either, but that one gets thrown around like the meaning is obvious.
@@TimothyFish
1 Corinthians 15:50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water...
TO DESTROY
2 Peter 3:5 the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God...v6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood.
TO SAVE
1 Peter 3:20-21 those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ...
@@hehehe23451, that not what John 3:5 says. It actually says, "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." But to understand what is meant by that, we need to take into account the verses that are around it. We can't just assume that "born of water" means water baptism. Jesus could have easily have said, "a man must be baptized and filled with the Spirit," but that's not what he said. He says, "except a man be born..." and then he talks about what appears to be two kinds of birth. But he's already talking about two kinds of birth (being born physically and born again spiritually). If he is only talking about two kinds of birth, then it fits that water birth is physical birth. Given that a woman's water breaks when she gives birth, it fits. If that isn't the case, then it makes it seem like he's talking about three or four kinds of birth, none of which are made clear, or he is involving a physical action in something that is spiritual, which doesn't make sense. It seems most probable that the born of water is referring to physical birth.
@@TimothyFish
"the born of water is referring to physical birth."
1 Corinthians 15:50 physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
JESUS EXAMPLE (born of water)
John 3:5 no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water...
1 John 5:6 Jesus Christ was revealed as God’s Son by his baptism in water...
Matthew 3:16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water.
Matthew 3:16 At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.
@@hehehe23451, you keep stopping when you get to "water." Jesus didn't stop with "water" in John 3:5. He was contrasting the view that Nicodemus had of birth with spiritual birth. So, you have "water" which is what Nicodemus saw as birth and you have Spirit, which is what Jesus meant by "born again." I suspect you are trying to advocate for some kind of works based salvation that requires you to be baptized. Nothing in the context supports that.
*Why do you assume non Calvinists believe they can save themselves?? Can anyone reading these comments name someone who says that?? Why are you getting on TH-cam and Lying? and then claim you are a Christian??*
A guy named John Calvin read just what you did, and wanted to talk about it. Most people hate talking about what you just read and they hate it. Why? I don't know. It's really good news. Ok ok, it's not good news if you are not appointed to see what you see and teach. I am NOT saying to become a Calvinist. Skip that and just stay with being a Bible reader and believer.
don't worry, people will disagree with Corey about this because their semi pelagian/arminian tradition they grew up in
@@jalapeno.tabasco Yeah, I know. I didn't even know it was a giant debate for decades. I just read it and believed it. I get called A Calvinist and don't even know about the guy. He must have read it and believed it too. I think I have to say I made Jesus Lord of my life to stay out of religious debates. Corey shows a clip of a man saying "You can be stupid and still be saved," from time to time. I guess that would fit me. I believed the gospel long long before I ever knew any theology. I heard the gospel when I was 7 years old and it was good news to me, and I just believed it. I didn't know lots of people didn't.
I actually like this passage. Calvinists are notorious for having two kinds of everything. In this passage, we have a clear example of two kinds of belief (belief unto salvation and belief in what Paul and Barnabus taught them after they were saved), but Calvinists want to say that the only belief is the belief unto salvation.
@@TimothyFish You can put your faith in Barabus if you want to. Who would stop you?
@@orangeandslinky, you're missing the point. The passage is saying that they believed Barnabus. It isn't saying that belief resulted in their salvation. It appears that they had already believed in Jesus before this statement about them believing Barnabus occurred.
So you teach mankind has no choice then right? Why is God knocking on the hearts of all mankind if we don’t have a choice? So you teach mankind has no free will? That’s what I see and hear. Before the foundation of the world God knew who would accept but mankind has to personally accept what He did for them personally. Why would the scriptures say God is preaching to even those who won’t accept Him if they didn’t have a choice to do so? Yes God has done everything but man has to do two things. Believe and place that faith in that belief. That’s why it’s a free gift of salvation. He knocks on the door of your heart and you choose to open the door and He presents His free gift of salvation to you and by faith and believing you accept it then He closes and locks the door behind Him permanently sealed with His Spirit as a guarantee of eternal salvation eternal life. That’s what being born again spiritually alive means. Now your a new creation in Christ because you choose to accept Him. So yes mankind has a choice.
Through the apostle John in Revelation 2-3, Jesus addressed seven letters to seven churches in Asia Minor. They were individualized letters of instruction, rebuke, and encouragement to the local congregations. To the last church, the lukewarm church in Laodicea, Jesus made this urgent plea: “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me” (Revelation 3:20). The idea of Jesus standing at a door and knocking is often used as an illustration of Jesus’ offer of salvation to individuals: if you would only “open your heart’s door” and let Jesus into your life, all will be well. But in Revelation 3:20, Jesus is not pleading with an individual to be saved; He’s seeking admittance to a church! It’s alarming to think of Jesus standing outside of the church and knocking, but that’s the position He was in. The Laodicean church had shut the door on the Head of the church; they were smug in their prosperity, but Jesus was left standing in the cold. He was an outsider to the hearts of the entire congregation.
where does it say God is knocking on all the hearts of all mankind? you heard that from someone, not in the Bible
you cannot make yourself born of God or born again
@@jalapeno.tabasco revelations 3:20 and just do a new covenant testament will word search on “heart” and read not only the verses but the context there written in
@@driver26swx31 that’s error because the true church is His body of believers all over the world past present and future. God did not come to form the following; church buildings church religion because He already had a form of religion called what? What did that make there followers? So why do you think God wanted that in the new covenant testament will? Man started buildings to what? Control and keep people under bondage. Christ didn’t come to form any religion. He came to restore the relationship back with His creation. Good grief as smart as y’all keep telling me you are just what does the word “religion” mean? Look it up. In the early days there were no buildings like today. Don’t you read the scriptures? They met in homes in fields openly daily growing in the truth. One big reason why folks don’t understand is because they not hearing truth
@@jcwindevillose revelation says nothing about the heart.... where does it say God knocks on the heart of all men and wait for them to let Him in? spoiler: NOWHERE
we know that jesus is the judge those who do good with those who do evil ... it is all over the gospels and in revelation ... those who do good are righteous and those who do evil are sinners ... and the sinner are the one that serve satan unless he turn from his sin into righteousness ... i am not the one saying that ... jesus is the one saying that in the gospels ... but if you want to believe that you can continual to sin and still be save then you are saying that you know more than jesus and then god ... just read the gospels ... jesus forgave the adulteress and then told her not to sin ... because those who sin serve the devil ... and many more example in the gospels ... we are not boasting if and when we do good because it is a command from god ... that command is love your neighbor as your self ... how do you love your neighbor ... by doing good and avoiding to do evil to him ... and that is how you love god with your heart ... or is the translation of the bible wrong?
what are you talking about? what does that have to do with the video?
you think there are people who are righteous?
@@jalapeno.tabasco let see what the scripture said ... (Ezek 14:14 [KJV])
Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver [but] their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.
(Matt 3:15 [KJV])
And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
(Luke 1:6 [KJV])
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
are there people who are righteous? ... according to the bible they are people who are righteous
@@rafaelo2215 they were righteous because of faith.... which God gave them
You can choose God and still go to hell.
You can choose God and go to heaven.
A way that’s seems right to man ends in death.Repent he is coming!
If people don't have the ability to make a decision, then is God being disingenuous when He commands men to "choose ye this day whom you will serve"? To "choose life"? God COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent. If God commands the choice upon all, but only empowers the choice for some, then I sense an incoherence. You sound like a 5-point Calvinist - and Calvinism has no Gospel, no "good news of glad tidings that shall be to ALL people".
And absolutely no one who made a decision to repent and believe in Christ claims that they "saved themselves".
Why does God the Father call Jesus GOD.
New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Berean Standard Bible
And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
King James Bible
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come,
(THE Almighty)
King James Bible
(I am he that liveth, and was dead;) and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
King James Bible
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
King James Bible
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
King James Bible
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY.
ALL THE PROPHECIES EVER SINCE THE BOOK OF GENESIS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED.
The bible says that the word became a man. (FLESH)
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;)
In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh).
What was he? John 1:14 = GOD became man.
HE WAS GOD, ONE MEMBER OF THE TRIUNE GODHEAD. BECAUSE GOD EXISTS IN 3 FATHER, SON, AND HOLYSPIRIT.
So before Jesus took on flesh HE was one with THE FATHER.
Sharing the glory with THE FATHER , SELF EXISTING WITH THE FATHER IN TOTAL HARMONY, AND IN PERFECT UNION.
THE bible says THE WORD took on the form of a servant .
New International Version philippians 2:7
rather, HE made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
In order to take on the role of a servant,
HE could not have been a servant.
JESUS was not a servant until HE took
On flesh, HE existed before HE took on flesh, but he wasn't a servant.HE IS God just Like the FATHER and just like the HOLYSPIRIT
JESUS said if you don't believe me, believe the works the miracles THAT I DONE.
New International Version john 10:38
But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the FATHER is in me, and I in the FATHER.”
It is very clear that Jesus was doing the things, That only God can do.
If doing the things that only God can do
Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind.
What more can you possibly want HE lived out a life greater than anything written can explain.
He lived a sinless and perfect life.
New International Version
2 corinthians 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all !
NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE.
HE LIVED THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE.
HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD
CAN DO.
HE FORGIVES SINS.
HE GIVES LIFE.
HE IS THE SAVIOR.
HE GAVE SIGHT TO THE BLIND.
HE HEALED THE SICK
HE WALKED ON WATER.
HE CALMED THE STORM.
HE CHANGED PEOPLE FROM THE INSIDE.
HE SHINED LIGHT INTO THE DARKNESS.
HE RAISED THE DEAD, HE RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE GRAVE, CONQUERING DEATH.
HE SAID ALL THAT BELONGS TO THE FATHER IS MINE. WHO CAN MAKE SUCH
A STATEMENT.
THE LIST GOES ON.
HE SAID IN JOHN 8:24
King James Bible
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.
So God saved some and left the others to perish. Why didn't He save everyone. 😂😂😂