SAUCONY TRIUMPH 22 INITIAL REVIEW - BEST MAX CUSHIONED CRUISER? - EDDBUD

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  • @paulmulks
    @paulmulks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This one is an absolute nay from me

  • @torontocitizen6802
    @torontocitizen6802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I didn’t like the 22 the first couple of runs, but it has grown on me. I don’t know if it’s me or if the foam is breaking in., but I am beginning to enjoy it.
    My go-to shoe though is the Ride 17.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope that happens to me!

  • @yesitz_daisy
    @yesitz_daisy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome sunglasses 😎

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do rock. Super light on head too

  • @CharlesMayer-wu5rb
    @CharlesMayer-wu5rb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So let’s get to the bottom line…
    There’s no reason to buy this shoe whatsoever; many better choices for the same or less $$$, including 20 and 21, which are going for $80-$90.

  • @BrendanWise-ze6ih
    @BrendanWise-ze6ih 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoyed the 21. Disappointed about the changes for the 22 so it’ll be a nay for me

  • @TimGrose
    @TimGrose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Umm so you seem to agree with another reviewer who did not like this shoe which another one took issue with. Between you all have decided it's not one I have any need of and fundamentally that is why I watch these vids so thanks for saving my money :)

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s probably superb if you wan max cushion and have a wider foot than me. Just not something that really hits the spot for my rotation

    • @CharlesMayer-wu5rb
      @CharlesMayer-wu5rb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yowanna and others concur; step backward for Saucony.
      You have to wonder what their internal product process; design much heavier than 20/21, less energy return and cush, why move forward with production?

  • @hahaheslop
    @hahaheslop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Tried this at the London Marathon Expo, felt like a brick! Not the shoe for me.

  • @miyufan2692
    @miyufan2692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    "Even Mr. T would think twice" ... that was funny! 🤣 Your reviews are entertaining. I love them.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for tuning in!

  • @Stevenc1984
    @Stevenc1984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think I'll pass during these times of fiscal turbulence. I used my Soar Solstice reward to pick up a pair of shorts. It's only way I could afford them out of the money I got from the empties 🍻

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Softer than the leather on Rodders best Gucci’s.

  • @dhgpan
    @dhgpan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel like the 22 became an antagonist of the Nimbus 26 and the Max Cush Category. Got the Mizuno Wave Sky 7 this year to replace my Nimbus 25 (i still wear my pair casually) and i must say that it's a great shoe! I also use the triumph 21 still because it's a banger! And still beating the Superblast! I will probably pass on this one but i must say it looks 🔥

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lovely looking shoe. Just too soft and bulky for me! Like pillows

  • @minusinfinity6974
    @minusinfinity6974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really terrible update IMO. Haven't seen a single positive review and how they can make a PEBAX based foam so lifeless is beyond belief. Too heavy, too padded, too dull and a big thumbs down. I hope the Hurricane 24 isn't as bad, but my Triumph 19 will be my last for a while. Maybe they will radically improve the v23 next year. But all is not gloom and doom, Superblast 2 is about to launch!

  • @dakoota3332
    @dakoota3332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As a 90 kg heelstriker the 22 works for me just fine.

    • @firatbalkaya
      @firatbalkaya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what about for walking? are they comfy? asking bc already bought it, maybe this will be also daily my walking shoe since i am also on heavier side

  • @captaincommodore8901
    @captaincommodore8901 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This one is an absolute yay from me

  • @InsaneClock
    @InsaneClock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    HELLO!

  • @Formerly-known-as-Steve
    @Formerly-known-as-Steve 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m not well, I’ll get back to podium chasing soon hopefully.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope you get back to form soon sir 👊👍🏼

  • @marga_asana2run
    @marga_asana2run 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Dankeschön! I never had Saucony...well this one will be not for, I am much to light for it 😅

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🥉

  • @cheekster777
    @cheekster777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hi

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🥈

  • @user-qc6mo7tr7c
    @user-qc6mo7tr7c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it the case of Saucony changing the Ride to a wanna be Swiss Army knife that moved into the traditional use case of the previous Triumph? With the new Triumph moving into the realm of "for bigger runners"?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah it’s very wide even as in this normal width version

  • @richardharvey4216
    @richardharvey4216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As someone who has run in the Triumphs going back to the ISO line your comments on the 22 are bang on. Personally I like the shoe but realize it’s a total tank of a shoe, it will last forever and it has limited use as a long distance cruiser. I have a normal foot and the mid foot and forefoot are roomy. I get good lock down in the heel. I’m 75kg or 166lbs and find the midsole spongy enough. It’s no NB1080 but it’s comfy.
    Lots of people poo pooing this one but need to realize what it is. It’s sold really well at my store so far so people aren’t watching TH-cam I guess 😂 also for a heavier runner the T22 should be top of your list

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s a good shoe in terms of cushion but more for the wider foot and heavier built folks than me

    • @richardharvey4216
      @richardharvey4216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. I can’t put enough torque into the midsole either.

  • @jasonvandagriff2691
    @jasonvandagriff2691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Having run in the 19, 20, and 21 I’ll be skipping these and see if I can find some 20’s to stock up on.

  • @randenlewis152
    @randenlewis152 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Pop in a PWRRUN+ insole, transforms the ride of the shoe

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Will give it a go! 👍🏼

  • @PabloPerez-nd7se
    @PabloPerez-nd7se 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As you’d say - they’ve nerfed it. So disappointing. Just got to try and nurse my 20s through to 50,000 miles. That shoe is perfect.

  • @insomniaforever6444
    @insomniaforever6444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very fair review Edd! I had high hopes for this release. Luckily, I have the Triumph 20 and Tempus on my shoe rack.

  • @sharkeyboe
    @sharkeyboe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bed Ud

  • @garthcox4307
    @garthcox4307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's very kind of saucony to save people money. Going forward it just means I'll buy the ride rather than the ride and the triumph.

  • @bobgibson1303
    @bobgibson1303 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Curious to see how the NB More V5 will perform which is coming out in July

  • @ClassicAlex
    @ClassicAlex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It would seem Saucony was afraid of making something that might compete with their Endorphin Speed range and pivoted the Triumph. Oh well, the Ride is cheaper anyhow!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the ride is the ticket for 8mm fans

  • @garrykirklandii8371
    @garrykirklandii8371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Eddbud, did you end up trying the shoe with a PWRRUN+ sock liner? I have a half dozen of them stashed, and I use them in lots of different shoes. I’ll end up trying this as well at some point.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Garry! Haven’t yet but you have reminded me to do so! 👍🏼👊

  • @Ruffnreddyrunner
    @Ruffnreddyrunner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do you think these company’s get a great affordable shoe that takes the lime light away from there more expensive models then nerf the next literation so you buy there more flagship models? If you get my line of thinking,it’s like oh you want versatile light and comfortable maybe buy our pro 4 or speed 4 xtra £50 here want trails buy our £200 one etc etc

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The speed 4 though even took on weight. It’s a weird trend. That’s why the Adizero sl2 is so good!

    • @Ruffnreddyrunner
      @Ruffnreddyrunner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD must try adidas shoe last time I bought a pair they always too narrow in toebox

  • @Ryan_Tinney
    @Ryan_Tinney 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nice one.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for providing an honest review. Most TH-cam reviews now are some kind of promotion.. When did Kafuzi give a negative review? ❤

  • @matthewlaw
    @matthewlaw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🥇

  • @zr7gaming256
    @zr7gaming256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey there Ed bud I’m looking for I new shoe I have the sl2 as my main daily trainer and I love it but my novablast three are pretty much dead so I need another daily shoe but I’m also increasing in mileage and I’m needing a long run shoe. I was thinking about picking up the prime X strung 2 and seeing if it could be used for both otherwise I am open to buying up two shoes respective to their own category just wondering your thoughts

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The strung 2 is ok but not a patch on the v1. That said I got lots of comfortable miles in

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Triumph 20 better than 21 and 21 better than 22... Same for me with the Speed 2 and 3 and 4. I am actually running more in Mizuno now 😂.

  • @fecardona
    @fecardona 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey Edd, check your inbox. There’s an email from Chris “Fordy” Ford for a collab video (maybe it went to the spam folder). Great review on this Triumph 💪🏼 lol on the rubber hardness 😂 quite happy with my Triumph 20, still in the beginning of its shelf life.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I will check it out

  • @timnewell5120
    @timnewell5120 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm starting to like the Kinvara Pros.

  • @matthiassventoest6800
    @matthiassventoest6800 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how could they make this shoe less versatile? It makes no sense. It’s like they tried to fix problems that didn’t exist.

  • @DarkPa1adin
    @DarkPa1adin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the T21 is the definitive triumph!

  • @ozenfant_ozn
    @ozenfant_ozn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    speaking of eels, did you come across the band "Being Dead", Edd? check out their new album "eels", i think you might dig it.

  • @danielmoore9214
    @danielmoore9214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Recently got some Triumph 21 having ran the sole off my Triumph 18s....very impressed with the added softness and the glove-like fit....prefer them to my Invincibles actually....

  • @tazpengra
    @tazpengra หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, that's sad. I'd like a max cushion long run/recovery shoe from Saucony because I enjoy the Endo Speed so much. All they have to do is dial down the plate (or get rid of it) and add 4-5mm of midsole. 8mm is about as much drop as I find still comfortable, 10 is a lot. Of course, this all physical measurement and not actual performance of deformation of the midsole during gait. Some 12mm drop shoes run like 6mm drop shoes. I pity the fool that gets these instead of Superblast.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Didn’t quite feel as versatile as the 21

    • @tazpengra
      @tazpengra 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EDDBUD then if I come across some 21's at nice price I won't think trice. Mr T wouldn't think twice.

  • @hurley614
    @hurley614 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Completely agreed with this review. Had the 20s and 21s. Feels heavy and not a shoe you can push the pace with compared to previous versions. It's now a treadmill shoe. Grab the Brooks Glycerin 21s instead.

    • @garthcox4307
      @garthcox4307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Saucony can make whatever shoe they like if they think there's a market for it. The issue is that people expect something specific from a triumph. If they'd retired the triumph name and called the new one something else, I think it would be clearer. People risk getting caught out with it being called triumph.

  • @Wildbrooker4304
    @Wildbrooker4304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sounds like this would be a good shoe for a heavier runner who needs stability, that colourway is outstanding.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it’s a looker. But too soft and plush for me.

  • @iconik-cn5rm
    @iconik-cn5rm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Saucony needs to go back to Triumph 20 and Start Over.

    • @dhgpan
      @dhgpan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think they replaced the previous triumph with the Ride 17

  • @Eirikkinserdal
    @Eirikkinserdal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like this shoe is a case of "gotta get worse, before it get's better" 😅

  • @kiteracer2497
    @kiteracer2497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Listen to the album exai, from autechre

  • @user-alexperovich81
    @user-alexperovich81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People are also different, that’s why sneakers can be so different. In this variety, you can find your pair, from which you can enjoy running. For example, I don’t like the Nike Infinity Run4; the foam underfoot is not at all comfortable. I didn’t like the React X, it looks like the next generation of Nike sneakers is not for me.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Pegasus is growing on me. Got some more miles in and the react x is softening up

  • @brokenfreddy1262
    @brokenfreddy1262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What's the logic with heavy,hot,clogs for everyday running shoes? Maybe they will last longer cos you don't want to put them on..

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it’s aimed at heavier built folks after max cushion and not much else

  • @ianmoore3785
    @ianmoore3785 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sadly the Triumph was ruined for me when it went to a 10mm drop. Unfortunate really, as it was and probably is an excellent shoe.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah too aggressive for easy stuff for me

  • @stevestarr9769
    @stevestarr9769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Once they went to a 10mm drop Saucony ruined the Triumph for me. I stocked up on version 19 with their 8mm drop.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the 10mm drop is a bit aggressive for this type of shoe

  • @jmundakal3905
    @jmundakal3905 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi i've been watching many shoe reviews and for my next running pair i am having a crisis deciding between the Takumi Sen 9 and the Deviate Nitro 2. Which out of these two shoes are faster/better?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sen is more a 10k lower distance racer for me

  • @emmalewin7493
    @emmalewin7493 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bit clunky looking for me. Will you be reviewing the revamped New Balance 860 v14’s soon? 🤞

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tempted by a new balance. But the rebel 4 was a total dud for me

  • @Manuel-901
    @Manuel-901 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    !!!Saucony for ever!!!. A good description. Like to EDDBUD. Have a great day.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

  • @PennyMan123
    @PennyMan123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m really enjoying the Brooks Ghost Max at the moment. How does this shoe compare to the ghost max?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ghost a bit less bulky and somehow softer despite the foam being more rubbery

  • @Ray.J
    @Ray.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review as always. Just watching you run in the shoes, it is evident that the upper was too large, maybe even "sloppy loose". Shoes often come in wide models, how about offering narrow options for those with slender feet?
    As far as weight, I have mixed emotions. To me it is more important how the shoe feels, than how light it is. Especially for a trainer. It wasn't that long ago when 12.5 ounces was considered decent for an average men's shoe. The point is, you do your training in a slightly heavier shoe and then on race day, you step down to a lightweight racer and it has to feel awesome, inspiring you to run fast.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s pretty big. Not all Saucony shoes are like this for me. Some way more sleek

  • @leebrown3645
    @leebrown3645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not sure why they have gone so heavy on the stability aspect when they already make the Guide, but as someone who needs slight support when I run rather than a fully blown support shoe, this may be worth a punt. The mega durable looking sole is a big plus for me. I can't stand these over-priced shoes that start to look knackered within a few hundred Kms. If I pay, I want them to last!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s very wide too. Almost like a wide fit but normal!

  • @Ginguredrunner
    @Ginguredrunner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Looks like they really pooped the bed with this one. Don't be afraid to go lower with your scores...this shoe deserves it imo lol.

  • @Feanaro5503
    @Feanaro5503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the foam feels funny to the touch. Which wouldn't matter if it was a good shoe to run in, but I thought I'd mention it.

  • @cryfest
    @cryfest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kind of disappointed with the changes, I’m interested in Ride 17.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did review that a while back

  • @414peps
    @414peps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ONE MILLION SUBSCRIBERS!! (insert dr evil emoji here)

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣

  • @abirdie4me
    @abirdie4me 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Comment for the algorithm!

  • @janmalek
    @janmalek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Edd -- many thanks for all the videos! Question: how would you compare the Triumph 21 (not 22) to the A -A SL2? Does one have more oomph than the other? Thanks,

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sl2 is way more usable across the effort levels

    • @janmalek
      @janmalek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD - great, thank you!

  • @TanvirAhmed-vk5ci
    @TanvirAhmed-vk5ci 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Triumph 22 is a banger. It saved my wide feet. Using for shorter distance and easy runs.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it’s working for you. Bit too much room for me

  • @KarlKalson
    @KarlKalson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really start to like it with every run a bit more

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe it will get better. Just very wide and too plush for me

  • @paulholmes1981
    @paulholmes1981 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Christmas lights , ahead of the game Edd

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My son likes them. Plus I repaired the cable after the cat chewed it up!

  • @RainerSchmitt-pv4df
    @RainerSchmitt-pv4df 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    👊🏼🤖‼️

  • @michaelalbrecht3395
    @michaelalbrecht3395 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the triumph 22

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it’s working for you

  • @thecaptainchas2820
    @thecaptainchas2820 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man, I never get tired of the Eels! And I never get tired of hearing other fans share in the Eels love too! Mr E’s Beautiful Blues somehow made it in the soundtrack for the movie Roadtrip, and in retrospect, it was about the only thing about that folk that wasn’t cringeworthy. Novocain For The Soul is another objectively great track.
    There are two types of people in the world: those who like the Eels, and those who don’t like music.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Susan’s house. Another classic