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- Who is Jim, really? Am I Jim? Are you Jim? Maybe Jim is all of us. Maybe Jim is no one at all. Today, we dive in to answer this critical question.
In this video I go over some questions, secrets, and new findings from The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe. We discuss Jim, The Timekeeper, Gambhorra'ta, as well as visual and audio secrets.
[If you do not enjoy the narrative structure of this video, let me know in the comments! It seemed like a good way to pull everything together, but if not, I'll adjust future videos.]
All footage was gathered by me.
All music used (The Stanley Parable OST):
Introducing Stanley
Exploring Stanley
Contemplating Stanley
Pondering Stanley
Leaving Stanley
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As a method actor, once I became Jim, I could not go back. I've only lived my life as Jim ever since.
I’m sorry to hear you’re going through all that, Jim
why is your profile Samuel
@@YangHajime Jim is already taken
Just dont be too much jim cowboy!
Did you get college bro jim or cult leader jim?
i feel like i'm at one of the deepest levels of the stanley parable iceburg
I called out the thing with the skip time a bit early and at first I commented it before finishing watching, only for him to then bring up that point
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Iceburg
First time?
I know who Jim really is. He is a news reporter, a camera guy, a weather man, and the head of Jim News.
JIIIM! DEMONS JIM! DEMONS!!!!
JIM!
Not Mark, but JIM!!
Jim is infinite! There are so many Jims. They flood the multiverse now.
@@GDNashit WHAT CAUSE DID YOU HAVE TO DESTROY THE MULTIVERSE
Seeing as there is a pencil sharpener and nothing else besides the computer on the desk in the epilogue, that is a parallel between 432's desk and this desk. Also, reading a paper on a chair next to the 432 peer reviews it is mentioned that 432 says: I must keep the wheel turning. What is the only other character says this? That's right, settings person. And also the game's writer's word, of course.
But yeah. Jim is a mystery that I have also tried to solve. There was some more dialogue about Jim that I hadn't encountered yet in the comments here, which is awesome. Throws my current theory in the dust, but whatever. One can always make new theories about gags and coincidences in video games.
Yeah there’s like no reason for them to have put that on there but they chose to Plus he couldn’t have grabbed the box since he transcend time and space
In DougDougs stream of the Stanley Parable, it's confirmed that 432 is the Settings Person
@@uselessshroob you ever just lose you mind so hard you disappear off the plane and integrate yourself into the fabric of reality
@@endernightblade1958
All the time... I'm trapped in this TH-cam channel right now.
Theory: The dude in the tape is "possessing" the bucket
Take a look at the out of bounds ending with the bucket, according to the narration, the bucket reveals he "was turned into a bucket" after he stole/attempted to steal Gamborratha's forbidden treasure
What's this "treasure"? The magical bucket, of course, the tape recorder ending demonstrates the dude planning to exploit a magical reassuring bucket before Gamborratha finds him, i think the pieces of the puzzle fit
As for the dude following you around in the office when you have the bucket, I like to believe that's Gamborratha watching over the bucket; his creation
The museum ending gives us more insight on the history of the bucket, the caveman chorus that plays on the discovery of the bucket are just cavemen saying his name over and over, who isn't to say Gamborratha didn't invent it?
th-cam.com/video/rEARO4TwGyo/w-d-xo.html for that ending
Also not sure, but you could hypothetically say that maybe gamorratha is in the bucket and lied to drop your guard a little before starting to escape the bucket and the tape guy failed to kill him, but the narrator (probably not narrator though since even he got manipulated by the bucket in one of the endings), Jim, and/or settings person recontained him
human fangs don't glisten. when he transforms into his original form, before he's cut off, it says "the bucket transformed into a mighty beast of untold power, its fangs glistening like"
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What about the stanley heaven ending? I feel like the audio could be some sort of diagram or something
Also he looks like he is saying lamboreis
While I do wonder about Jim, the person I'm more curious about is Chris. The person mentioned on the whiteboard in the meeting room, first in a note saying, "Get Chris out of Broom Closet," later in a note saying, "retrieve Chris's remains from warehouse floor."
What the hell happened to Chris!? Was he murdered? Did he take his own life? Was it an accident? Was he the guy on the tape?
No wonder the Narrator thought we died in that Closet. Also, this reminds me that there was a warning in the warehouse saying that we should not jump from the platform. It's probably there because of Chris. So many people have died or gone mad in that office, it's disturbing.
@@tinnasell4161 It makes me wonder if every ending Stanley gets hints at the fates of other employees. Some straight up left, some had a complete mental breakdown, some were "done away with", and some took their own life.
Chris is the one who layed the wood boards out in the warehouse and had an accident
@@Holllow007 I could believe it
I must correct you
Stanley couldn't ever die of old age as the narrator in the serious ending sentenced stanley to one hundred, billion, trillion years standing in the serious room. And he perhaps was going to talk Stanley about the severity of his actions later
which makes it even more terrifying, if stanley cannot die of age then its possible he tore himself apart...
i dont think he can die of hunger or thirst either.
@@delta_gon5277 considering how meta the game is, it's pretty clear Stanley isn't human. He's just Stanley. He can only really be killed when the Narrator lets him. He's only hurt by fall damage in an ending the Narrator himself makes. It's easiest, for me at least, go analyse the Stanley Parable once I let go of the idea of Stanley being an actual person rather than essentially a tool for the Narrator and the player to mess with
That's just my interpretation but there's no way Stanley is human, in the sense he cannot die of old age or have needs like we do
"Infinity years on the serious room"
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"The end is never the end"
In the debug menu, there is an option named “is_stanley” that will make all Jim buttons say “stanley”, which is turned off by default.
We aren’t stanley, we are Jim.
oh, so if we are all Jim, then Hello Jim!
There is one button in the game that can actually say "Stanley"
With that whole thing of Stanley's Wife calling a phone belonging to a different employee, one could argue that it's a remnant of a previous story iteration that the Narrator did where he changed which employee number Stanley was.
That's a definite possibility
Stanley might not have a wife, i forgot which ending but i remember the narrator saying 'you thought you had someone loving you?' or something
@@hivijiviThat’s what happens if you don’t pull the plug to the phone
1. the desk with the computer in the epilogue doesn’t have to be 432’s/settings person’s, the computer is just the only vessel through which they can communicate with us. it can just be a random computer
2. 432 cannot collect their pencil sharpeners in ultra deluxe bc ultra deluxe is when they became shattered through time and space and became the settings person
you kinda just proved 432 = settings person in this video lol
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He became Appart of the fabric of reality
He’s not gaster, chill
I just realized something!
The only single thing 432 has on his desk is an electric pencil sharpener
Which is something that definitely would be constantly used in an office setting. How do you use an electric sharpener? You put a pencil into a hole, and a wheel inside the machine will sharpen it
I must keep the wheel turning
also there's a paper in the confusion ending that shows employee 432 saying "i must keep the wheel turning" so thats definitive proof
Jim is the name of our awesome cult leader, of course.
Our dear leader
For once I’m actually quite thankful for the TH-cam algorithm for it has blessed me with this honestly unironically fantastic video. Good job! :D
Thank you so much!
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Jim was here
Personal headcanon-The Timekeeper is actually the Narrator that gave Stanley the Skip Button and eventually found a way to get out of the purgatory by bending time.
What about the narrator from the museum ending
@@rudeskalamander she doesn’t have the same voice as the Narrator, and we have no reason to think that she is The Timekeeper. She even said not to let time chose for you, which could have a direct correlation with The Timekeeper, who would probably want to see you dead.
I know this is a few months old but I do wanna mention how in the out of bounds ending with the bucket, it says how it used to be human but Gambhorra'ta turned it into a bucket. Of course this ending is kinda meant to be funny and I don't know if we should take it seriously when talking about lore but it's the only other place where Gambhorra'ta is mentioned so I thought I'd bring it up
Im pretty sure Jim is a reference to Jim Sterling who the Narrator loves a lot for his positive review and beforehand has been referenced and praised endlessly as a gag, so I just assumed this is who Jim is referring too and why the name button says "Jim"
I don't think the creator would include only "Jim" in a reference to Jim Stephanie Sterling.
@@RobertJW they would it is literally a committed bit
@@kiToro945 It's incorrect naming. Which wasn't done elsewhere in the game.
it is not hard to spell "jim" i dont know what you are talking about @@RobertJW
@@kiToro945 The game refers to Sterling as "Jim Stephanie", when recalling the review written for the original Stanley Parable. This is the correct name to refer to Sterling. I don't believe the game's creator would omit the "Stephanie".
I love how ridiculous but funny as hell the lore of these games is
The phone ringing on 434's desk. Easy enough to explain. In the 1980's, phone calls could be transferred to other locations by a switchboard to the location that is assigned to it.
What you need to ask, is who is the person at the switchboard that directed the call to 434 instead of 427?. It very well could be Jim. Make sense now?
Edit: To clarify, since Jim is ultimately observing the Narrator and Stanley, WHO would know that Stanley is at the office alone and directs the call to a phone that is nearby Stanley because he leaves his office and can not go back inside it once he leaves it?
If you believe the Narrator did it, that is like saying the Butler did it. Obviously.
Another perspective. The call comes in for Stanley at 427. Operator directs the call to 427. No answer. Operator redirects the call to 434 to get anybody in the office to get the message to Stanley. I hope this makes sense to those that understand.
Into the rabbit hole we go...
the narrator says the line "Someone is following stanley, if he just turns around, he will eventually catch them." and the fact that you can acctually see someone standig next to a truck, andin the bucket quiz room-
We know gamborra’ta is ancient based off of the chanting of “gamborra’ta” by cave paintings in the bucket exhibit, and also that they are enemies with the bucket.
The schedule for the mind control facility is fantastic it adds information for the escape pod ending lore
Like we now know that when we enter mind control facility, escape pod opens for the guy living in the building
wait hold on didnt the developer announced that 432 is the timekeeper in 17:28 what do you mean by 432 is not the timekeeper.
Just a fun hypothetical! (I just don't like 432 and the Timekeeper being the same character, but I also didn't discuss alternative theories)
@@TGITommy oh ok
Fun fact: the button actually can say you're name. The chances of it happening are about the chances of a person named "jim" playing the game.
The difference relating to pencil sharpeners between Original and SPUD might be a bug.
in some rare cases, one of the computers mentions that there are 2 employees in the building, [427] and [ ]
the television that has a blank number shows 432's desk
Ok, a silly theory for your last question.
We've always been Jim.
434 was Stanley.
The narrator tried to play the same game he's playing now with 434-Stanley, but they were mentally weaker, and couldn't survive the resets after a while.
So the narrator needed another toy. And picked Jim up.
... but the narrator isn't fully sane either, so since he was playing with Stanley, kept calling the new one Stanley.
Which makes the button saying "Jim" right, they do say your name. The "Stanley" one? The narrator trying to force them to call you Stanley, and only managed it on that one after all that time (?)
A mystery I often wondered, when you take the bucket through the exhibit and go to get the reassurance bucket, the narrator is miffed and confused as to why there are two buckets. Could it be that having two in theory could keep Stanley sane and by having two, it reassures him that he isn’t going mad or could the extra be Jim’s and he’s trying to give you his but the narrator destroys them both because he wants Stanley to feel helpless but by having two it would make Stanley question everything. Loved your video
I believe it referred that have two buckets is too much for a single person to handle due to their power, as for the narrator, he is confused because in his eyes its the first time stanley goes to find the buckets (since he doesn't always acknowledge that time is repeating ) and destroyed both buckets to protect stanley because he went to take the second one, at least that's what I believe
The idea of "employee experiments" lends weight to the idea someone had that The Stanley Parable takes place somewhere in the Aperture complex and the Narrator is a core.
Hmm, what if you read the bullet points on the whitebord not as just a list of 6 employees, but 3 pairs. i.e. 417-405; 491-416; 431-Jim. Maybe, if there can be be found some pattern, like in desk placement or in the monitor room, somehow each pair has some related and Jim relates to 431 the same way like 405 to 417 and 416 ro 491?
Maybe, they are paired like the Narrator and their partner. I mean... the Narrator could be another employee, and 431 could be the Narrator for Jim.
Still better researched than any recent mattpat video
Well, the less serious ones like sans is ness at least. A surprising amount of reasearch and nuance is there in food theory at least, though there was some big issues with using some stereotypes in a game theory video (forgot which one but i think it had vikings, japanese, and midieval sides and multiple people did call him out on the mistakes for each side, including shadiversity)
th-cam.com/video/BBE3Jau3UVY/w-d-xo.html
low bar
With 434 phone as far as I am aware Stanleys office doesn't have a phone and since his wife was a hallucinations the narrator or JIM might have put that there
Plot twist: Jim is actually Stanley's long-lost twin brother who has been secretly living in the office building all this time
If 432 became the timekeeper in SPUD, then it could be that he simply stopped collecting the pencil sharpeners.
jim could also be the cleaner/custodian
not being a numbered employee but being with the company long enough for everyone to know the person based on the name
there's broom closet but no cleaner?
"the spectrogram has two lines...this means something for sure!!!"
What if Jim is the narrator?
I mean imagine you wanna design a button to when it pushed, it calls the person who pressed it, as a first prototype, what name you would design it for? For yourself !
That would make a lot of sense, I wonder why no one considers it
How cool would be if gambarato were gman, and the Stanley's parable somehow tied in to an eventual hl3 it would be even cooler.
He is the guy that got sent to the Shadow Realm.
9:05
The fact that the escape corridor opens gives us some concerning info.
Whatever a class 1 event is, it _has_ occurred.
My name is Kind of Jim. I loved the fact that they picked that.
bro i didnt even think twice about gamboratta wtf this lore goes too deep for me
This video was silly and ridiculous and parts of it made me lol. You raise a lot of interesting points but i don't think there's much conclusions to be drawn. I liked the intro, the editing and your cool calm voice.
I think Jim is not necessarily anyone that's represented in the game. You showed a lot of cool connections like the figure you see when holding the bucket with the voice talking about the bucket, but i don't think there's much reason to think he's Jim. He might not even be someone from the building.
As for the questions at the end, here's what I think, just bc I need to share: the epilogue is definitely calling back to the confusion ending. It's just thematically appropriate. The timekeeper is employee 432. It explains their inability to collect their pencil sharpener delivery in SPUD, and devs said so directly. The desk at the end may not have been their desk originally, but they do have a pencil sharpener on it, so perhaps they sat there at some point.
Employee 434 and Employee 425 (or whoever) are Stanley clones. Perhaps all the employees were/are Stanley and the game/company is a huge cloning/experiment/crazy-reality bending facility. Or it's a video game. I dunno.
Or Stanley's wife left him for another dude from the company. I fail to recall... did she say Stanley's name on the phone?
Thank you, nobody looks into the 'lore' and secrets of this game because one of its points is that there are no answers.
I say thank you for being the one to do it anyway.
This is the best theory on this I have seen as well as the one of the most fun ways of things being edited and explained in a theory.
I'm really happy to have found this because I always found this game interesting and researched it on my own but even then what was brought up and was found surprised me.
Overall, very nice video. I can't wait to see what else you make on this channel.
If you bring the bucket into the out of map ending gamborrata is mentioned
Since 434 gets multiple voicemails in the game, a boring but logical possibility is that they simply hold a secretarial role and aren't around to transfer the calls to their intended recipients. Or they were instructed to record them to only be delivered to their targets at the end of each workday. Given how zombified everyone is meant to be while at the workplace, it may be a required procedure to keep outsiders from communicating with them directly while on the clock.
I mean gamboratah was the one that turned the bucket into a bucket, you can hear all about it by grabbing the bucket and jumping out the window in the previous room.
Maybe jim is buckets full form and thats why we always see him with bucket my theory is that jim espaced narrators control and he is hidden in complex trying to help stanley to escape even if it means to die
What if Jim is the boss’s secretary ? 🤔
Maybe His name is Jim Stanley
The Gamborra'ta sounds at the end of the tape sound like an Enderman from Minecraft...
Two things to note: on one of the computers there is a console which says that there are two employees currently in the building, 427 and someone else, which could be jim or 432. also i cant remember but i believe there is some floor papers that show a transcript of the calls that you can hear in 434s desk so they are probably fabricated by the narrator or the boss
FINNALY! A video about Jim!
my head cannon, Gaborata is the bucket and Jim is the Boss' Creepy blood relative that hangs around the office...
he used the bucket to become the narrator.
Love your voice, love the video style, love the bucket 🪣
I think another thing, maybe gambora'ta is not Jim, during the Death of the bucket it mentions that gambora'ta was a magician, i think that the guy that talks during the tape final is the Bucket, before Gambora'ta Transformed him in the bucket, so who is Jim? Is like, everything and nothing, Maybe he can be the man that watch us during the game, but i think not, he can be the narrator, but no it's not, What else he can be? The Player, we play all the game as Stanley, right? Yes, but for we play as Jim during the real final, When we can watch stanley on the room of the two famous doors, so for me Jim is that guy, but the Stanley parable is like five nights at freddy's, you can think it as you want!
I'm of the probably incorrect opinion that in this game about time repeating/shenanigans, Stanley/425 is every 'other' character. he may have once been refered to as Jim, Stanley may have once been turned into a bucket, which isn't unreasonable to assume, and the other people watching from a distance, or wandering around, are just other Stanley, maybe they are checking on the player controlled Stanley, or they could have another reason, like checking up on the bucket?
either way, they are all Stanley, either with narrators, or without them, but nearly all of them are just Stanley. I only bring this up because the game messes with time all the time.
Maybe the real Jim was the friends we made along the way.
It's me. I'm Jim. No seriously. I'm not even joking when I say I freaked out a bit when it said my name. Then I figured maybe they had a bunch of names loaded up or a text to speech program within the game's code that reads your gamertag/username and says a different name accordingly. But finding out that it really is the only name that the button says... that just felt like destiny. I am Jim. And I AM THE BUCKET!!!
I have NEVER seen that guy walking past 425
Not all the buttons say Jim or Stanley. I found one that said home.
I can't BELIEVE I had no idea employee 432 was important, what the hell
shoutouts to people named jim who played the stanely parable 2
no I am scared Jim is watching me in my appartment.
5:10 there is a cutscene without a bucket... only in ultra deluxe.
I actually know a Jim he’s a kid with a lab with a robot dog and he grew up now eating tacos and Wendy’s in a alternate universe using grubhub
Really interesting. I have never seen this man in the elevator. Will look better next time.
Absolutely fascinating, i love the game and i loved this video
Jim, is Jim.
Me, i am.
no way
All these questions about the deep lore of SPUD, and you still need to get one acheivement, Super Go Outside
or what if it is just a call to The Office Character Jim.... after all Stanley (also another character from the office) works a 9-5 job in an office setting
There's many possible people who could be named Jim in this game. It could be Employee 430. Employee 432. The Settings Person. The boss. The guy passing by Employee 425's office. Literally anyone.
Given that the Narrator actually crafted a button that says Stanley's name, likely cuz he missed him, the Jim button was made for a similar reason. So, maybe Jim was the Narrator's assignment prior to Stanley.
What about how the bucket was actually a human before it was cursed by the wizard ghambhoratta
What if Jim is the bucket and the tape guy?
No Fern Lore? But a little bit of Bucket Lore, alright 6/10.
As a person who actually is named Jimmy I was a little freaked out at first, I didn't know how the game knew my name.
Please do more videos like this or make a part 2 if you can add anything more onto this
Maybe *All* the Numbered Employees are named Stanley
I had no idea this was a thing
What about the computer Stanley uses in the intro cutscene, that's the first time I noticed the name Jim i thought you were gonna mention it
17:54
really bad theory here:
is everyone who works in the office named Stanley, and therefore why they have to be called by number minus Jim due to not being a Stanely?
and every Stanely could be a different Stanely, explaining the mystery man you can see through the window at 11:08 just be a new Stanely walking to his office
or am i just dumb
I thought I could watch a Stanley Parable video at 11:00 pm. Guess not
i mean, makes sense that you dont like 432 and the Timekeeper being the same character. based on that livestream clip, it sounds like something that wasn't planned, and also devs outright telling you the solution to a mystery takes away some of the fun
I thought it was obvious! It is Jim Pickens!
I am Jim, I was taught to be Jim
This video is pretty good. I watched it all.
16:16 I think its the first two doors your encounter
Hmm yes lore of the Stanley Parable
Weird TH-cam recommended but good video
What if everyone is just being brainwashed to think they are Stanley going so far as to even dress them the same because the narrator can't handle Stanley eventually dying.
Wow! He's talking about me!
Interesting video.
I loved this video.
This game is my very favourite game
15:50 I thought it read EKSE lmaoo
Jim is Jim
You do realize they are just simping for Jim Sterling, the game critic?
The longer reviews before the reveal of TSP2 are from him.
SP is truly the last game i would expect to have a lore out of all games. Such a [seemingly] mundane and tasteless game. With which I mean it's a 4th wall break game, meme/meta game that I don't pay much attention to after I watch it.
What else is left? Tetris? Google Chrome's dinosaur running game?
11:28 *EXCUSE ME!* They identify as pincel sharpeners. Misidentifying him as a button-pusher is quite offensive.. if I may speak on his behalf.
15:50 Its say fired right bext to the roman numaral
Jim