@@Periwinkleaccount I did discover the Saki Sanobashi has a 80's aesthetics and is about a group of girls stuck in a bathroom. Extremely disturbing, I am traumatized.
My favorite theory about the 3 orangutans 1 blender video is that it's not actually a shock video but it's actually a video of 3 orangutans getting extremely excited about a person making them some sort of smoothie.
@@reallordofmygirl4859 But they don't, it is clear you don't know nothing. Funky town, Pain Olympics, Run the Gauntlet, The Guerrero Flaying, Ms Pacman and many many more that I can not mention
@@africanalchemist9165 RTG is a collective, not a stand-alone video so that’s not really a good comparison also, there’s a funny little thing called “exaggeration”
Doveland, Wisconsin isn't a thing: I've spent 40 years here and never heard of it. I grew up near Shawano, spent years in Oshkosh and still live in the Fox Cities. Also, my dad was in a very popular oldies rock n roll band and has played in numerous town fairs and countless bars, bowling alleys, weddings, supper clubs, class reunions and was even on a parade float in Minocqua. If he's never heard of it, it doesn't exist. There are far better mysteries in Wisconsin: the town of Shawano has been infiltrated by a cult that's buying up all the property in the town in order to drive off the locals. They've chased off news crews with shotguns. They bought up a motel and allegedly started hosting orgies/swinger parties at said motel. There is a baby death connected to them-the baby supposedly froze to death after being left in a car in the dead of winter. They even released a "hit list" of Shawano business owners and community leaders. They released it by leaving it at the county courthouse. My sister was on that list, and she sold her business and changed careers because of these kooks. The craziest part is that Shawano is like 15 minutes away from somewhere called Tigerton Falls, where a cult leader horrifically killed several of his disciples in the 1970s. There was a flap of UFO sightings near Mosinee, WI in the early 1990s. I also had some weird lights/sleep-walking/missing time strangeness during this time period. I think Wisconsin is just a magnet of weirdness. I think it's all of the granite.
I've lived in Michigan for nearly 50 years and there are still places I find out about that I never knew existed. That's hardly proof of Doveland not being real.
Thoth 93 is certainly a Thelemite. I was one for 10 years till I left it. 93 is the number Thelemites use to identify each other as well as the unicursal hexagram which appears in the video shown. Thoth, of Egypt, is also important to Thelemic lore. Lots of Thelemites end up insane (I nearly did) so it's not surprising there's some Thelemite posting madness on TH-cam. For those wondering Thelema is the occult system developed by Aleister Crowley. Those colored squares are from Enochian Magick. There's a lot of stuff referenced and all of it is Thelemic
@bathory harker My pleasure. There's so much disinformation about Thelema and Crowley out there and even though I've moved on from both and don't jive with much of that stuff anymore I try and be an objective voice who can answer questions and give out info that isn't conspiracy nonsense. Even did a lot of the writing for the OTO's, Ordo Templi Orientis, Wiki page (was a member for nearly a decade) and was able to stay objective and focus on the history rather than the many many reasons I left.
@@NightDawnDusk A lotta people in the OTO do too :P Thelemites, Masons and esoteric folk of all kind are just people there's really nothing all that otherworldly about it all the real aspects of Magick are personal and are more likely to be encountered following your passions be it playing music or dancing or yoga or whatever than spending years studying Enochian Magick or The Goetia. You'll probably get more out of Minecraft than out of Thelema, straight up if it sparks your imagination and allows you to enter a flow state that's basically half the work done to having a mystical experience. The experience of having my black cloak and wand in a bag as I took the metro to my OTO Temple was surreal and felt kinda cool at first but over time I realized it was also silly. Minecraft can be your wand and roleplaying in a server can be a ritual. It's all in your mind and how you process reality, that's all occultism is in the end. If you're really looking for insights into the secrets of the universe study physics (actual physics not the hippy stuff) and classical philosophy like Plotinus, Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Spinoza and so on. Occult literally is just a word for "hidden" (not hidden as kept from the public but in a more subtle way like the stuff that's hidden from base consciousness... understanding something like what relativity is and what space and time are in relation to relativity is occult just as much as a Thelemic ritual is... except relativity is based on reality ;) and with the internet there is nothing truly hidden anymore for those who go out seeking. The real challenge now is learning to separate meaningless noise from whatever it is that rings true to the little voice in your head that is always grasping to understand, evolve and become a wiser better person both for your own sake and for the sake of the journey itself. So much of the "occult" is outdated nonsense that is historically interesting but much of it reeks of pre-modern-science attempts to systematize reality, often in ridiculous ways. Einstein was on the right track when he said "I believe in Spinoza's God" and I can only imagine what insights an intellect like Einstein was able to achieve... probably more than Isaac Newton who secretly worked away at occult experiments along side physics... and likewise in a few hundred years what understandings the wisest of us now have will be seen as primitive. That's what I love about The Great Work... it doesn't matter how far you yourself go in unifying yourself with The Absolute, others will come in the future and do so in new and glorious ways. In current year we have so many ways to accomplish the goals of ancient mystics and all of it you can do from home with a little reading and self reflection. All occultism has the goal of "The Great Work" (though may call it different things like Gnosis) but to stick with calling it The Great Work Crowley defined it as "the uniting of opposites; it may mean the uniting of the soul with God, of the microcosm with the macrocosm, of the female with the male, of the ego with the non-ego" which yeh if you're dedicated enough to the pursuit of Truth there's no need for things like Thelema or the OTO anymore... you've got everything you could possibly need but many go nuts because there's just so much and 99.99% of it is distractions and delusions... which is why you get stuff like those silly videos that led me to leave the original comment. Rather than a secret society I now just have friends and lovers who are likewise interested in these things. I somewhat miss parts of the group ritual aspect of the OTO but I've talked to my friends about it and we might play around with the idea without taking it too seriously (taking things seriously is a major trap in occultism, it's all a delicate balance between not letting the ego get too seriously obsessed with the search and not letting the ego forget the search instead getting obsessed by whatever society has to offer as distractions) Speaking of Minecraft though someone recreated Boleskine House in Minecraft (Crowley's large cottage in Scotland, on Loch Ness of course (before any sightings of Nessie so local folk like to blame Crowley for the "monster" XD) and which Led Zepplin's Jimmy Page bought for a while as he was super into Crowley. Boleskine is where Crowley attempted to perform the frankly embarrassingly complex Ambremelin Ritual which is supposed to make you come into direct contact with your Guardian Angel. The kind of stuff described by that ritual I've experienced entirely sober just dancing at rave festivals for a few days in nature... other times not so sober but hey use the tools nature gives you, responsibly.
I've been following forgotten languages for years now. Here's my conclusion: I think forgotten languages is posting something called "theory-fiction", which is the term for writing that is half fiction and half philosophical/sociological essay. In the 90's there was a group of eccentric philosophers and sociologists that formed a think tank called the Cybernetic Cultural Research Unit that published surreal cyberpunk and occult themed essays. They even included an internal false lore about themselves. I think what you're seeing here is a group of academics (including some linguists evidently) creating their own theory fiction in conlangs to share with each other.
except the vast majority of what they are posting is not original. afaik they even said that they just run text through their language program and post the results. whats exceptionally odd is their selection of articles to run through. while many do resemble some of the fiction written by land and co., a majority seem to be reputable publications from actual journals. i highly recommend digging into the posts from TheCrawlerFL who was spooked off of the internet after putting in a FOIA request due to a classified cia document number being listed in the bibliography of one of their articles. (the request seems to have actually been recorded, despite claims from CIA record keepers, because the request is logged in the publicly available FOIA black vault)
I see how the linguistics aspect of the site could be fun for some, just kinda disappointed for just having a program to translate it (if this is true, then) is really easy to just run a bunch of random text thru the translator and see what it comes up with, while some other conlangs have ways to evolve into more interesting languages
I reached out to SCM about his work. He was not arrested or harmed in any way, he simply moved on from the project. The point of the project was a social experiment relating to how we are filmed all the time, but only get mad when there is a person holding the camera.
Apparently 00390 is connected to SCM cause the VERY FIRST thing I found when searching up Surveillance Camera Man was a playlist with a couple of his videos but uploaded by 00390
The tulpamancy rabbit hole is honestly fuckin hilarious. You get shit like a 4chan anon who manifested a Peter Griffin tulpa who does nothing but harrass him and make shitty jokes, and can even send him into hallucinated cutaway gags.
Holy crap that sounds hilarious- plus, kinda feel bad for that host 😂😂. We’ve got a headmate in here who’s a living meme half of the time, we kinda just blame random brain shit on him whenever it happens and he just kinda smiles at us, never confirming nor denying his involvement. Also, we have an adult cartoon character, Rick Sanchez, in here, but he’s definitely less of a walking meme and more of a perma-asshole that literally has no use.
There's a big difference between surveillance cameras that may never be looked at, for like a company, for the point of theft or other crime, vs one guy taking video explicitly of you, for his own enjoyment, for no reason. It's not the same at all
Yeah, i always had a thought about it, if you never or will never see it, interact with it, or it bother you, does that thing really exist? Even if it exist what does it matter to you if it never shows up in your life? And what does this man did is the exact opposite of not bothering them
And yeah because what does this man did is not legal and there is no guarantee that this man won't do something worse, not to mention the fact that this man literally just starring at someone for a long time, even if he doesn't recording they'd be bothered aswell
@@saltysalt844 it is not illegal to film people in public. In public there is no expectation of privacy and in the USA you legally can film whoever for whatever reason in public locations and public buildings, and while it may be irritating, it's protected under the first amendment with our right of freedom of speech.
@@doctorrobert1339 I wasn't talking about the social dynamic or morality of doing so tho, I was explaining the legality of it to the person who said it's illegal.
As someone who's been online since the early/mid '90s, whenever you run across high weirdness or "mysterious" internet stuff, the answer is almost always: A) art project or creepypasta type content, B) conspiracy theory insanity by possibly mentally ill people
Yes. Modern “creepypasta” ie; the stuff that coined the term, is juvenile and retarded. Just awful. Even worse is how stuff like Slenderman has become actually believed in as real. I mean ffs I was there in the original creepy photoshop contest thread on SA when that crap was invented. Now you got terrible movies and stupid kids literally murdering each other over this character. Ugh.
I feel like some people sympathizing with security man don’t think about that when we enter an establishment, we expect there to be camera in case of theft, armed robbery, assault. These cameras aren’t often looked through unless there was an incident. When a stranger goes up to a person and records them for absolutely no reason, of course they’re going to be uncomfortable bc it’s a one random person who’s recording another random person. What’s he gonna do with a video of someone in his device? See, that ofc will be unsettling.
When we enter an establishment sure, you know how many cameras record you everyday when you're walking in a city? His whole point with it is you are constantly surveilled without your "permission".
How do you know the camera aren’t often looked at? How do you think they know when a robbery is happening? Why would they install cameras that no one ever checks, that would be a waste of money and an investment no sane business owner would take.
One of my favorite Tulpa creepypastas is the story of this one guy who was socially awkward and lonely, and wanted to create a Tulpa of Pinkie Pie from My Little Pony to be his friend. However, he made the mistake of going to sleep/not finishing the ritual, and so the Pinkie Pie Tulpa appeared to be incredibly distorted and dream-like. Now he lives in fear of this pink, unfinished creature that haunts him from time to time.
As a woman, I can confidently say the MAJOR difference between a security camera and a random man filming me in public is that the security camera is there for SECURITY purposes, and I know what it’s for. The random man, however, has unknown intentions, and for all I know he could be filming me for his creepy spank bank or something similar.
it was an art project meant to convey a message, message being your always being recorded without your consent. pretty much all the time. he wanted people to understand that this anger or confusion should be directed at government bodies that collect our information by force, same with stores or like gas stations or any mobile device ect. he goes by vagrant holiday now and he makes banger videos
The thing with doveland is that both the name is something that works together so well it tricks ppl into sounding familiar and also that doveland was a name of a place in multiple movies and books that people may pull false memories from. This is because doveland is an easy and quick use name that authors may just use for a throwaway place in their stories
19:50 as far as I’m aware the longest fanfiction is one for the subspace emissary which was the story mode in Super Smash Bros Brawl. This fic is called Worlds Conquest and it is over 4 million words long. I haven’t read it but it seems pretty cool because the idea of video game characters from different series meeting up to fight together is awesome. The cutscenes from brawl where the characters interacted were some of my favorite parts of the entire game and it makes total sense that it could be expanded. Video game characters from different series interacting is something I bet a ton of people could get mileage out of writing about and the subspace emissary was a great jumping off point.
I believe that one that is larger is called 'Diego diaries' and is somewhere in the ballpark of 11 million words. It is a transformers fanfiction but that is all that I know about it.
As someone who was on the internet back in the late 90s and used AOL chat rooms (and probably talked to lots of pedo’s), the internet has always been incredibly weird.
Thoth 93 is a massive reference to Aliester Crowley’s religion of Thelema, Thoth/Mercury being an important god within it and 93 being the gematric equivalent of both Agape and Thelema, that’s a number which is extremely important in that religion + it’s full of occult and Thelemic imagery, including liber 777 written by Aliester Crowley The TH-cam channel also references The Cube of Saturn, a conspiracy theory from 4chan’s /x/. I am 100% certain that the person who runs the Thoth 93 account is from /x/, and most of the people who post on /x/ are completely insane
I was gonna watch one of those videos but any mention of fucking /x/ makes me extremely hesitant. They're like /b/'s schizophrenic cousin, which is saying a lot.
longest fanfiction i know of is diego diaries by arctapus. its a transformers fic spread over 8 "books" or parts because the ff.n interface gives the author issues when she hits 200+ chapters but it varies. As of last official count, 10.4 million words, 4333 chapters, and has been updated nearly every day since 2011. I've read the whole thing several times, if theres any plagiarism its might be like a line or two done in reference, nothing so egregious as an entire fucking wikipedia article, or even actual script. always makes me grumpy when people call subspace emissary or whatever the longest fic when my homie arctapus has been at the grind for 12 YEARS.
@@regulareffect truly. its my favorite work of fiction ever, i genuinely plan to print it out and have it bound in hardcover volumes. not for sale or anything, just for me to always have. its such an incredible thing, honestly. almost definitely an acquired taste but god. its my favorite thing ever (hence why i have read it so much lol)
Alright, if we're talking about WORD count, it is Loud House: Revamped, started in 2017, updated every day since then and still going, with 17 million words and counting. Diego Diaries is 7 million short. However, if we're talking about the longest RUNNING, it would be Diego Diaries, yeah.
@@askinnyshademan i think that the word count shouldn't.... count...? considering how much plagiarism, literal copy-and-pasting is done on LHR, whereas diego diaries is like 99.999% original writing (i dont say 100% because im sure theres word-for-word quotes or references in there somewhere.)
The reason surveillance camera mans channel had his videos removed was most likely because of Washington state's recording laws, where candidly recording someone without their knowledge or consent is illegal and can actually land you in prison. (i.e double consent?? i think its called)
Vagrant Holiday is legitimately a rad channel. His McNiel Island journey was weird af. He hasn't had a video up on his channel in a year, so I hope he's alright.
The surveillance guy's first video is on a college campus. College campuses have contemporary art departments where people do all sorts of weird things, of which his project barely even stands out except for the mystery around it and how mysteries overlap into the internet mysteries niche interest area. If you geolocated the campus he was on and talked to faculty in their fine arts program I'm sure you'd find him.
Whatever the intended purpose, forgotten languages is an interesting (maybe accidental) commentary on the inaccessibility of science and information on the internet. There are millions of research papers on every topic you could hope for but every one of them is so wrapped up in its own hyper-specific linguistic hellscape that, to someone who’s not deeply imbedded in the very specific topic discussed in the paper, it’s either completely inaccessible or a several hour slog at minimum to even translate a fraction of what the damn thing is trying to say. Forgotten languages highlights this beautifully by literally translating the papers into one of many _completely inaccessible languages_ that can only be deciphered by someone who already been given the key to deciphering them. Edited spacing for readability purposes
3:25 93 is used by Thelemites & means "will" and "love". Thoth 93's channel has many references to Thelema & the occult. And after reading comments & watching a few of the videos, as well as looking at affiliated channels I can say with certainty that his channel is about Thelema & the occult.
Whats up parellel pipes! I lived in wisconsin for 6 years, specifically in the Pewaukee area. The town of doveland was actually something I remember from my childhood (2004-2011ish). People had mugs, shirts, even hats that said doveland on them but like you said, easily could be a hoax to promote the legend. But i do remember my teachers telling us about doveland around halloween, my friends made it a scary story (to us kids doveland became sort of like Oniontown like mythwise if youve ever heard of it). Looking back at it, Doveland at least to me, was like a urban legend or hell even like a creepypasta, that would get spread around on the playground to scare you.
Another thing that might prove that LHOHQ is an art project is that its name sounds a lot like "L.H.O.O.Q", an artwork by Marcel Duchamp, who is known for being very influential in modern art.
About Doveland. For what I've seen, apparently it was a made up town from an old map of the zone. The practice of making up little towns on small little maps appears to had been a normal practice for when the person or team didnt wanted to put that much efford into the job, so the general consensus is that a cartographer made it up, it was deleted when the zone was re-cartographed, and that old map was used as the base for the legend.
i wonder if doveland started as a sort of paper town for the original iceberg chart it came from. paper towns, for anyone who wasnt a john green fan when they were 15, were fake towns invented by map companies as a form of copyright protection. if another company was printing a map based off of another company's map and it included the paper town, it was proof that they had plagiarized their map
Isabella Janke wanted to be the ultimate troll in Chris Chan’s life, but must’ve forgot that that position has been filled for years, by the one and only Liquid Chris, the only troll that wasn’t out to ruin his life and was just having good old fashioned fun, there is no topping that legend
16:28 Active users means people who have logged in a service within a certain period of time, usually the last year. If you say just "user" that means only accounts, which would include people who made an account, played for five minutes and left. It also never goes down. Active users give you a much more precise bottom of how much a software is used.
When he says he doesn’t know what is meant by active user, I think he means he doesn’t know how long that period of time is that the user would’ve had to log in during,.
At this point "that whole thing that Chris-Chan did" is such a broad statement it could mean literally anything and yet everyone knows exactly what you mean by it.
it must be said that loud house revamped isnt just the longest fanfiction, but also the longest piece of english written work, though since most of it is just parts of wiki pages i personally think that one super smash bros fanfic is still the longest. either of them being the longest is fucking insane though
"Longest piece of literature" belonging to fanfic never sat right with me because there are serialized works since the 1930s that are still going to this day, maybe some even older. Superman, the comic itself, has been in publication since the early 1940s to this very day, serialized, has probably surpassed it in sheer length by now. The reason why fanfic is counted and published works are often not because it's hard to justify a book over 1000 pages due to how expensive mass producing it would be. Digital works don't have that issue. If you count the collective word count of massive on-going franchises, it'll dwarf the fanfics.
@@amelialonelyfart8848 The issue is that they're issues or series. Not intended to be read as one long work. I consider those separate works, even with an ongoing storyline. That's why I don't consider "Marienbad My Love" to be on that list either
@@watching7721 A lot of hte longest fanfics are anthologies too, is the problem. Some of the longest comics are, to some extent, an ongoing storyline. They're only separated into issues for convivence and serialization. If these juggernaut fanfics were actual published works, they'd be in the same boat.
The "Surveillance Camera Man" i think now is revealed to be "Vagrant Holiday" from what Pyrocinical said in a video a bit ago. I think he chose just to switch his content fron the whole going up to randoms and now actually makes really good content from what i watched
The area listed as a DUMB in SE Pennsylvania used to be called National Underground Security. It was a hue underground mine tat was used to store physical copies of government paperwork and also contained old govt servers. I worked there for about a year updating labels on computer tapes from the patent office. It was one of those old time data units where the data tapes are in a big sealed cylinder and the robot in the center reads color codes and grabs the right tape then inserts it into the tape drive. It was a cool place but if anything sinister was there they kept it pretty well hidden considering hundreds of local workers going in and out all day.
This comment section is one of the most genuinely interesting ones I've ever seen in my decade or so on the internet, along with the video of course. I love accumulating information and insight of any kind on any subject. I've been in the depths of the internet, but there's still SO much to see. Here's something I can add: There was a band called Five Starcle Men, and to extremely simplify it, they were two guys who took DXM like everyday for a few years while also making music. There's an album(?) called Goomba Reject Ward that has a lot of their work. I found these guys from a post on the DXM subreddit like 7 years ago. I remember finding a video of a "live performance" but it was more like the weirdest music video I've ever seen. Plus who tf would go 😂. The music is...I don't even know. I listened to the entire fucking album on a band trip in freshman year I think. Mental illness attracts mental illness lol. Another interesting insanity album is Hello Kitty Suicide Club, or that might be the artist. That shit is extremely loud though.
since you mentioned it a funny fact or thing ive seen whenever the psychonaut wiki is brought up is that ive seen many get it confused for yet another wiki of a game thats also called psychonauts somewhat often, not to mention because these communities share the literal same name on the tags like twitter for it you’ll get a huge mix bag of you either getting stuff related to the game or a bunch of post related to drugs, pills, etc. keep up the videos btw! love your content 👍
Between the 3 cities I lived in growing up, visitation weekends with my father, and attending two universities in Wisconsin, I have never seen or even heard anyone mention any town named Doveland. I even spent several summers working in Wisconsin Dells, which hires people from all over the world and houses them as part of their pay for the summer, I've never heard of it. However, I really wouldn't be surprised to learn if the whole thing is similar to "Mandela Effect" occurrences. There are several unincorporated towns with names close to "Doveland." Delavan immediately comes to mind.
Same. Lived in D.C. my whole life and never heard of "Wisconsin." Apparently it's a state in the "midwest" but even that's a lie because anyone can clearly tell the American Midwest is actually the Middle East of America. Midwest would be Montana. I say we rename the Midwest to the Middle East effective immediately.
7:26 - The docs are probably real, but to be fair, IF what Schneider is saying is correct, it stands to reason that the information about him contained in the files is completely fabricated to discredit him.
Pretty sure the longest fanfic ever is that super smash bros. one, it’s called The Supspace Emissary’s Worlds Conquest. Might not be the longest anymore but last I checked it was
That also caught my eye. I guess that the "fanfiction" is actually longer but that is just the biggest number the site can display as the word count. It's either that, or the whole thing is generated with a computer program set to make it exactly 2^24-1 words, which, given the content, would also make a lot of sense.
Thoth 93 is a reference to the religion of Thelema, and the occult works of Aliester Crowley on the whole. The number 93 is the Germatric equivalent of "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." It is customary for fellow Thelemites to both greet and depart from one another by saying, "93s!" I have not visited the page, but from the snippets shown here I recognize a number of popular occult symbols, primarily those used in invoking Enochian angels.
I mean, technically gangstalking is real, it just happens to lolcows. Have you seen what happened to Chris Chan, or Daniel Larson, or Joshua Block, or basically any other person who's been constantly harrassed and obsessively had their life documented?
The same methods have been used openly by orgs such as Scientology, and it's a common tactic used by organized crime to quash potential whistleblowers and victims from speaking to the authorities. Sometimes marginalized people with an online presence are targeted by criminals as a means to muddy the waters and discredit any other victims from stepping forward. Their reactions to being harassed are predictable and alienating. The methods used are absolutely ridiculous, which is the point. Anybody reporting the harassment they've received would be written off as insane. Source : I kinda know someone who married a person involved in that scene.
My family is from Wisconsin, and from what I can gather, no one back home remembers a place called Doveland. I haven't been able to ask my Conspiracy Theory spouting Uncle yet, and I will update when I can talk to him and ask him. But my current best guess is that there may have been a Billboard up that maybe called a certain location in Wisconsin "Doveland" or maybe it's the town nickname, or it could even just be a joke to poke fun of how Wisconsin town names are and how many people in Wisconsin are susceptible to conspiratorial thinking.
@@adamusprime403 it’s telling that you can’t understand the cognitive dissonance of calling him “conspiracy theory spouting” while also taking his word on doveland at face value 🤣
@@wolfetteplays8894 I think you missed the reason I stated him being conspiracy spouting, which is that if it was a relatively old conspiracy he of all people would have heard of it. I really shouldn't have needed to explain that 🤷
@@enviousshade1770 sorry if my update was partially hidden, I talked to him and he said he had never heard of Doveland. I see that as a pretty good sign that the Doveland conspiracy is rather new, and most likely fabricated, because if there was an actual Doveland conspiracy from the 90's, my uncle would have definitely heard of it, especially because of how deep and how long he's been within conspiracy theory communities.
It should probably be noted that tulpa (the Tibetan spelling of which is more like sprul pa) are actually a concept derived from Tibetan Buddhism, wherein, to make a long story short, they are manifestations of the compassion of the Buddha(s) summoned as guides to enlightenment through intense meditation and shaped by the disposition and mindstate of the summoner. The very online version is taken from the interpretation of the idea which appears in Theosophy and other weird niche New Age movements drawing on Tibetan Buddhist ideas, which generalises the concept of the tulpa to independent beings created and shaped through meditation and will. Funnily enough, I knew about the original definition from when I was little through the very strange children's book Tibet: Through the Red Box by Peter Sís, so when I found out they were something of an internet meme connected to ponies of all things, I was initially *very* confused. As for what I think now, well, I think it's mostly just nascent plurality and dissociation? Which is really interesting in its implications about how the human mind works, and could certainly have some interesting spiritual dimensions, but ultimately it's kind of its own thing outside of what is a fairly specific and rare religious practice.
Yeah, as someone who's in plural circles (I have DID and practise healthy plurality). Tulpamancy is a term that a lot of people are trying to move away from since the Buddhists who practise it in the context of their closed religion have expressed discomfort with it becoming a widespread idea or phenomenon with a different connotation. There are still people who practise plurality by creating headmates/alters (either separate from DID/OSDD, or alongside it) under the term "thoughtforming". It is really interesting what the brain is capable of with enough dedication and willpower.
@@thecatherd you cannot willingly create alters that's just called roleplaying. Trying to pretend or give urself DID or OSDD because you think it'll be fun and you want it or some glamorized version of it is insulting. There's no shame in simply roleplaying as your favorite characters or ocs and identifying with them.
@@circuitboardsystem The problem with this line of thinking is that undiagnosed dissociative disorders and experiencing dissociation as a function of other forms of mental illness or neurodivergence are not uncommon, so even if you take the stance that it is impossible to "willingly" dissociate in such a way as to produce an altered state of consciousness, that doesn't rule out the possibility of such an alter emerging in non-traumatic circumstances regardless of the root causes of that malleability of consciousness. Plus, the way that people frame these things can be ambiguous: Consider how many children develop imaginary friends, but sometimes that imaginary friend turns out to be more than that. None of this "glamourises" plurality, but merely recognises that how we interpret our experiences as people who dissociate vary. Note that I say this as someone who has experienced arguments between about five distinct people in my head before-co-consciousness and switching can be truly exhausting and even scary-so please don't assume I'm trying to sugarcoat matters.
@@ConvincingPeople my comment keeps disappearing for some reason but go to the card called why-endos-are-bad ik the name sounds aggressive but the carrd isn't aggressive or rude it simply just states facts Also my point still stands on stop trying to give yourself effects of a disorder you don't have because it seems fun to you. It's insulting. Just roleplay there's no shame in roleplaying. People attempt to give themselves the effects of this disorder [which they can't do] because they want to and it seems fun to them then take up spaces for people that genuine have this disorder
@@circuitboardsystem There are points in this piece which are not unreasonable and I'd broadly agree with, but the framing leans hard into respectability politics territory which I honestly find really dangerous, in part because it presupposes a "solved" state for dissociative disorders based primarily in research by singlets who have historically seen total integration/final fusion as the ideal end goal of DID/OSDD treatment, and in part because of how it can impact people with undiagnosed dissociative disorders who might simply view their experiences differently for whatever reason but are nonetheless deserving of support. There are certainly some bizarre misconceptions which a very tiny minority of people seem to have, some perhaps rooted in other psychological disorders and other simply fanciful, but while dispelling these is likely necessary, I feel like attempting to gatekeep people who might simply be interpreting their condition differently-for example, people who cannot recall a particular inciting traumatic event as precipitating their plurality but, again, might remember having always had a complex internal dialogue-does more harm than good in the long run. To give a concrete example, I have met at least one person currently diagnosed with DID who first began to seriously question whether their experiences were more than simply a product of being on the autism spectrum following what they initially assumed to be a successful attempt at producing a thoughtform. Additionally, there are theories of mind which suggest that a unified self is not the starting point of human cognition, but rather than say that trauma is *absolutely necessary* to produce a multipartite sense of self, instead suggest that the self often continues to exist on a spectrum of compartmentalisation, with plurality or multiplicity existing at the extreme end of this compartmentalisation, and that while trauma no doubt encourages this, the underlying tendency prefigures it. That said, I'm not a neuroscience expert, so I'd advise reading up on this on your own. At the end of the day, though, I'm sympathetic to your frustrations with outsiders, as you see it, essentially doing hardcore LARPing under the guise of a disorder which directly impacts your day-to-day life. That fucking sucks. But at the same time, maybe it's because I spend a lot of time in very small, tight-knit circles of very specific plural people, but in terms of who I've met, that sort of person feels like more of a boogeyman meant to demonise us than an accurate portrayal of the few self-identified endogenous/non-traumagenic systems I've met-who I admit I'm not sure *are* non-traumagenic, but it's not my damned business to tell them how and why their brain works the way that it does.
Psychonaut wiki was my go to for over researching/analysing the drug(s) that I was gonna use. It's extremely informative and very good for harm reduction...even tho the drugs always ended up harming me in the long run mentally and physically lmao
Gang stalking is a tough subject to get into, especially with how the world is, in some cases it’s true so when people are worried sometimes they do have some foundation for why they believe they’re being gang stalked. Other times it is a case of severe anxiety, paranoia, mental breakdowns, drug use, and a whole slew of things. It’s interesting, but sometimes it’s best to let the interests stay mysterious.
This was a well presented video but basically what I got out of it was, “there’s nothing ‘really’ going on out there” and life is pretty mundane and extremely normal.
As far as the surveillance camera man thing goes, some people believe that he is the author of Vagrant Holiday series on youtube (great stuff, really recommend watching it)
@@combine161 Well apparently he uploaded 2 short videos like 9 months ago on some other website (I forgot what it was, maybe Media Fire?) Though they are both short and don't really tell us anything
Lol, I used to think about it often, so much so I remembered the name after 20+ years. Toxoplasmosis. I remember it from a BBC nature documentary on parasites where it went trough it's lifecycle and it basically makes the host slow witted so it'll be easily caught, they showed how infected river fish wouldn't react fast enough to evade predators. It makes cysts on the brain which reduce reaction time and help it be passed up the food chain. The human mind would(and does) tear itself apart with paranoia but just cook meat properly and you'll be fine.
Time stamps for anyone who wants to reach a certain section but can’t find it (arranged by the order of the png): Loud House Revamped - 3orangutans1blender - 39:36 LHQHQ - Tulpamancy - IncelWiki - PsychonautWiki - Project Red Sun - Doveland - Surveillance Camera Man - Floating Chinese City - Susie's Dying - Thoth-93 - DUMBs - Parasite Pill PDFs - Philip Schneider - Death Tracker - Forgotten Languages - Golf rumors - "There is Nothing" - 38:47 Dead internet - ??? - I.J. - Lose Lose Game - Stinky meat - Gangstalking -
The surveillance camera guy stuff got deleted for legal reasons. He has 18 court documents that I've found so far convicting him of stalking, harassment, voyeurism and criminal trespass. Most of those are obvious about what he was doing, but there's also something else. You can legally record someone in public without consent (most of the time), but when he focuses on a subject and then monetizes it with expressed opposition to it, that is also a crime. He also stated that it was his intent to film people against their will and intentionally aggravate them. So, in effect, his entire channel was himself posting evidence of his crimes. He mentions the reason he was filming to begin with was to show how people react differently to a person following them around filming and stores/cities security cameras. But that is not a very good argument. Majority of cameras are inside if private establishments that the person can willing enter and leave, while state or government owned cameras have very tight control and restrictions on how they can be used, so the comparison is minimum.
Dude good to see you are alive. Seriously though welcome back. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs and it’s been awesome to see you grow over these past few years. I’ve been around since the TH-cam iceberg and I’ve been hooked ever since. Lots of love man thanks for giving me something to listen to while I do stuff.
The first mystery is definitely ether an artist, motion graphics/animation student, or just a person with a lot of time to create. A lot of these type of "trippy" videos are just art projects. You’d be surprise how much crazy stuff is created by art students (and being completely fine, mentally). Most of the time it doesn’t get posted to the internet so when it does it’s a bit confusing to others.
@@atroposVAccording to another commenter it is actually in fact heavily related to the occult, but not really in an evil way. I think it's a mix of occult stuff and a type of art project
Videos like these are way better than other stuff like the weapon video (even though that was just 1 video). The rabbit hole and internet mystery videos are so good.
Yea, I wonder if there’s an area/county in a part of Wisconsin named/colloquially named something similar to Doveland, causing the confusion. That, or it is indeed completely made up.
I feel like it's an easy thing to claim. There's plenty of obscure places that are named for some reason in my state, you could easily claim some place exists and I'd take you on your word for it.
I will say about that Robert Golf one, the CIA did actually try using remote viewing during the cold war, up to around just before the turn of the millennium, which was done under Project Stargate. I used to trawl the CIA's online reading room when I was bored and I found hoards of documents about their supposed techniques and hypotheses, but ultimately they never really got any exciting or promising results.
The part he missed is that apparently Robert died while projecting so they saw a small part of heaven and that the heaven found footage was stolen from the CIA by the Vatican. Sorry if that was worded poorly
33:39 I managed to decode some of the website's welcome page and he second paragraph read “The chessboard is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the rules of the game are what we call the laws of nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us.”
Here is some more: "In spacesuits, the astronaut is the first astronaut chosen to pilot the lunar module and travel the lunar surface. Lunar surface beyond earth is covered by dark rocky zones to the extent of two miles as per the sample taken from the moon's surface, during a critical maneuver in orbit, and landing on a proper spot. The astronaut cannot fly the spacecraft in real-time. Instead, he checks for changes while trying to avoid the spacecraft systems, and spacecraft is chosen like a pilot. The spacecraft cannot change spacecraft in the vacuum of space so that the astronaut can move like a shooting star. Rapid air in the spacesuit is needed, using the astronaut's equipment to avoid space sickness. Rapid movement of the suit is crucial, with control of the spacecraft as per the sun's rays and the sample taken. The spacecraft will fly like a fast aircraft with the pilot chosen and flying, producing important data such as speed and energy of the flying object. The astronaut will land like a real pilot, controlling and landing the spacecraft, planning important experiments and testing of the spacecraft can be done with the astronaut on the moon. The black satellite (ABL) is a high-energy laser weapon designed to be mounted on an aircraft Boeing 747 fuselage. It uses a high-energy chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) to direct intense light energy at a target on the ground, such as enemy missiles, to destroy or damage them in flight. The ABL is designed to operate in various weather conditions and against multiple targets by employing adaptive optics to counter atmospheric turbulence and enhance the laser's effectiveness. An enemy missile can be destroyed in midair within seconds. However, an enemy missile approaching can create its own heat source, such as engines and warheads, in large ballistic ranges. When the laser fires, it creates an intense beam of light and heat that causes the missile to break apart, burn, and explode with the release of energy and debris into the missile's flight path. The system can engage multiple missiles simultaneously."
I can actually give you something to think about on Dublin, WI: Just as a town is smaller then a city, an unincorporated township, still “exists”, it just has no post office location and is, for census purposes, part of the largest city in the areas’ metro. These go on down to village and hamlet if you like. Example: Vaughn, NM is an unincorporated township of 452 people that are counted as part of the Albuquerque metro area. Likewise, Encino, NM is also, but has a population of 12. Dublin, WI could be the same way.
@@mikuisdiva39 If this was their plan why would they keep this document behind a FOIA request. Wouldn't they want as many people as possible to know he's schizophrenic so people would stop listening to him?
I actually come from one of the cities where there is supposedly a dumb. Turns out shits real to some extent. There is a large facility under the now small modern city with its own diesel generators and rooms to house thousands of people. Turns out it was built during the world War 1 and 2. I took a snowmobile and went to one of the entrances in the mountain, and saw old rail road tracks and a huge hill worth of materials that where excavated out from the digging of the tunnels during the building of this base. Today the entrances have been shut, and what used to be a military radio listening station up on top of the mountain now has more modern telecom equipment there. An oldtimer I talked to said that it was built on a need to know basis. And that he was sure that almost nobody knew what really was under them this whole time any longer.
This is probably gonna get buried, but I want to say that your iceberg/internet mystery videos are my favorite on the whole website, and I hope you make more soon :D
I remember Surveillance Camera Man. It was an art project. The purpose of all this is how people are watched pretty much every time, everywhere they go. But when they have a camera in their face, suddenly it ain’t ok.
Because he was recording audio as well. Having your somewhat private conversation record is in fact different from just being seen. In my country (Canada) it's illegal for security cameras to record audio. It's not very hard to understand why but you guys are obviously being disingenuous. That's half of what's so creepy about it.
If my memory isn't failing me, I heard that Sheiki (a guy from the spanish lost media wiki) attributed the appearance of the golf rumors to himself, but it could have been just a bluff. Anyway, great video, really interesting, keep the good work up!
I just watched you play at an orchestra concert great job👍. It's crazy how much you have accomplished in such little time. (Your smolder is outstanding btw)
regarding the longest fanfic, wasn't there a fanfic on ao3 that broke the site so much that it went down for like a few days? edit: well it's not the longest fanfic, however the amount of tags it had broke the site
@@chillfactory9000 oh my god there's a tumblr post where it says to zoom in on the tags of sexy times with wangxian and whatever you see first is how you die
I appreciate that when you don't understand something all the way, you just admit it. On the unknown languages thing in particular, I like that you pointed out that rumors and guess work have contributed negatively towards figuring out the answer.
I live in Wisconsin and have been my whole life with a lot of family on the northern and southern area and there’s no Doveland. If any folklore or legend we’re known most for is the creature called the Hodag which started in Rhinelander and is definitely more exciting than a made up area.
Ah, Tulpas! I remember I got into that scene about 7 years ago now, and I really fell in deep. Some people have written proper tomes to teach people how to make tulpas. I left that scene, and while I enjoyed my time there, I can see how it could really impact someone negatively if they let it get to them too badly. It involved a lot of introspective thought, and it's easy to miss the point I suppose, as some people took it as a way to completely avoid facing reality. It was really interesting, but overall I think having that information in the hands of a bunch of teens with unrestricted Internet access wasn't the best idea lol.
No offense, but it definitely sounds like something that's done as a result of extreme loneliness. I can't see how it could be healthy in the long term, but to each their own...
@@haydenmaines5905 yeah, I'm into Buddhism to some degree and I'm very sure tulpas are not imaginary friends you make up in your mind, because for starters, Buddhism goes against all of that. It is an evasion of reality of the highest order. The closest thing in Buddhism to it are those mind created bodies that help you fulfill some tasks when you have some degree of enlightenment, but those are weird psychic powers that are a fringe belief in some of the sects with supposedly tangible effects in reality and only achievable by the enlightened ones, not by lonely teenagers. I'm not saying this to be mean btw, I'm just genuinely worried about what's very obviously an unhealthy practice.
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 oh yeah no I agree it isn't actually like, following Buddhist belief. I first found out about tulpas when I was like 13 and found it somewhat interesting but never did anything about it. I was just saying they don't really portray it as a means of fixing loneliness, but more like, having an inner voice that's outside your subjective experience, so that if you're struggling with some personal dilemma you can get some perspective on the issue. I do agree though that it really probably isn't the best thing to be doing....
Okay maybe somebody can help me out here. At some point between maybe 2011-2013 I saw a really similar channel to Surveillance Camera Man except they were basically entering the back areas of restaurants like Taco Bell, etc. and just standing there silently. It always fascinated me and I'm not sure if it's the same one mentioned here or not. Curious if anybody else recalls this, I didn't catch it in any of the archives I came across. Could be a false memory on my part for all I know, though. Feel like it predated this by a year though, wonder if it was a previous channel of his or something. Anyway, this thing really starts off with a bang. Rad work here.
I've never seen a concentrated collection of videos like this but I have seen many videos like this. The weirdest thing is one time I noticed one of them was taking place in the deli section of my local Walmart.
@@giga-bowser Yeah I have no idea if I'll ever get to the bottom of it. I'd imagine content moderation teams on sites like this are gonna prioritize the removal of that stuff pretty hard, so it's really difficult to say whether anybody archived it or not. The one thing I'll say about the videos I saw is that they might've been on a Facebook page rather than a TH-cam channel, but I could be mistaken. I just remember it getting shared around a Facebook group with a bunch of musicians in it basically, and it was definitely something they found rather than created themselves. Also worth noting that I seem to recall the videos being bodycam footage (i.e. a GoPro strapped to the chest) rather than a handheld camera. It's like... if Hardcore Henry was an NPC in an RPG game. And the whole movie is just him breaking his path cycle and going where he's not supposed to, only for his walking script to freeze up, resulting in him being unable to move or speak until you reset the game. I remember at least 3-4 videos, but again, this is over 10 years ago minimum, so who the hell knows how much of this I'm actually recalling accurately. Either way it's still one of the strangest things I've ever seen on the internet.
I think the 'golf rumours' post on 4chan may have been to do with something else which I vaguely remember. My understanding is it was some kind of a meme where people would refer ominously to some kind of mystery event / incident, or rumours of such an incident, and either refuse to give any details out of fear of repercussion or be really vague about it, except for the fact that it in some way involved a golf course. The general consensus was that it involved some kind of secret meeting which took place between political figures at a certain golf course, where apparently (somewhere in the US if I recall) something happened at some point, or was revealed, which was highly significant. The most detailed post I remember reading claimed that during the meeting on this golf course, something transpired which proved that god was being tortured. I remember it being a pretty spooky topic to read about, even if it was probably just a meme.
TBF the remote viewing thing was actually something the Govt experimented with/gave funding too. The Golf Rumours bit, I guess is the glass camera thing.
One internet anomaly I remember hearing or reading about is the internet void, a place deep within the internet where random bits and chunks of assorted information go there, from random blogs to assorted pages of any kind, a chunk of information goes missing, it ends up there, no one knows why or what happens to it, like some sort of black hole slowly expanding
It's interesting when people outside the tulpa community talk about tulpas. Some people are really rude about it, but some think it's interesting and just leave us be. Thanks for being the latter! I used to have a tulpa in middle school and I would talk to him whenever I felt depressed and lonely. He helped me calm down and process my emotions better. I didn't go to therapy at the time, so it was a helpful coping mechanism. He ended up disappearing randomly, probably because I got bored of talking to him and was busy with life. I tried to make another tulpa after that, but kept failing because I was too tired to keep it up. Now he's just an OC that I draw for fun. Anyways, tulpamancers are just normal people, usually depressed or lonely normal people though. In my opinion, a tulpa is just an imaginary friend that's so developed to the point where they appear to have their own personality and appearance. It's possible to have one without even knowing what tulpas are. Our brains are really complex, so I don't question how or why it happens. But I want to say that its VERY different from having an alter, and is not related to DID or OSDD in any way. I've seen people claiming we're trying to force mental disorders on ourselves, but that's not true at all. You make tulpas consciously and plan them out, like an OC. You can't make or control an alter, they happen subconsciously. Tulpamancy can get unhealthy sometimes, but it's okay as long as you remember they're not exactly real and they can't replace actual friends or therapists.
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Parallel pipes, that "Go for a punch" anime from that rabbit hole video is called "Saki Sanobashi", check it at your own risk.
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@@Account_abandoned-q7m apparently it turned out to be fake, although we can’t be absolutely sure about it, though.
@@Periwinkleaccount I did discover the Saki Sanobashi has a 80's aesthetics and is about a group of girls stuck in a bathroom.
Extremely disturbing, I am traumatized.
Doveland could be one of those fake towns map makers used to use in order to identify people who copied their maps.
John Green might have some info on that
a paper town!
No, I went to Doveland once, it's close to Taured
I believe they go by the name of "Paper towns"
Wow that's smart. Very interesting.
My favorite theory about the 3 orangutans 1 blender video is that it's not actually a shock video but it's actually a video of 3 orangutans getting extremely excited about a person making them some sort of smoothie.
this made me happy, thank you
@@reallordofmygirl4859 it’s nowhere near every shock video 😂you damn poser
@@reallordofmygirl4859I want to try this out.
"2 Hydrogen 1 Oxygen"
@@reallordofmygirl4859 But they don't, it is clear you don't know nothing. Funky town, Pain Olympics, Run the Gauntlet, The Guerrero Flaying, Ms Pacman and many many more that I can not mention
@@africanalchemist9165 RTG is a collective, not a stand-alone video so that’s not really a good comparison
also, there’s a funny little thing called “exaggeration”
Doveland, Wisconsin isn't a thing: I've spent 40 years here and never heard of it. I grew up near Shawano, spent years in Oshkosh and still live in the Fox Cities. Also, my dad was in a very popular oldies rock n roll band and has played in numerous town fairs and countless bars, bowling alleys, weddings, supper clubs, class reunions and was even on a parade float in Minocqua. If he's never heard of it, it doesn't exist.
There are far better mysteries in Wisconsin: the town of Shawano has been infiltrated by a cult that's buying up all the property in the town in order to drive off the locals. They've chased off news crews with shotguns. They bought up a motel and allegedly started hosting orgies/swinger parties at said motel. There is a baby death connected to them-the baby supposedly froze to death after being left in a car in the dead of winter. They even released a "hit list" of Shawano business owners and community leaders. They released it by leaving it at the county courthouse. My sister was on that list, and she sold her business and changed careers because of these kooks.
The craziest part is that Shawano is like 15 minutes away from somewhere called Tigerton Falls, where a cult leader horrifically killed several of his disciples in the 1970s.
There was a flap of UFO sightings near Mosinee, WI in the early 1990s. I also had some weird lights/sleep-walking/missing time strangeness during this time period.
I think Wisconsin is just a magnet of weirdness. I think it's all of the granite.
Okay, sure, Fed.
gravity falls of real life
I've lived in Michigan for nearly 50 years and there are still places I find out about that I never knew existed. That's hardly proof of Doveland not being real.
Sounds like every town in the US during the 80's satanic panic.
@@kwantoon And there’s hardly any proof that Doveland does exist. It never existed.
“One of the most prominent characters in Chris Chan lore” is not a sentence I thought would start off my morning
Thoth 93 is certainly a Thelemite. I was one for 10 years till I left it. 93 is the number Thelemites use to identify each other as well as the unicursal hexagram which appears in the video shown. Thoth, of Egypt, is also important to Thelemic lore. Lots of Thelemites end up insane (I nearly did) so it's not surprising there's some Thelemite posting madness on TH-cam. For those wondering Thelema is the occult system developed by Aleister Crowley. Those colored squares are from Enochian Magick. There's a lot of stuff referenced and all of it is Thelemic
@bathory harker My pleasure. There's so much disinformation about Thelema and Crowley out there and even though I've moved on from both and don't jive with much of that stuff anymore I try and be an objective voice who can answer questions and give out info that isn't conspiracy nonsense. Even did a lot of the writing for the OTO's, Ordo Templi Orientis, Wiki page (was a member for nearly a decade) and was able to stay objective and focus on the history rather than the many many reasons I left.
Damn, and I just like minecraft
@@NightDawnDusk A lotta people in the OTO do too :P Thelemites, Masons and esoteric folk of all kind are just people there's really nothing all that otherworldly about it all the real aspects of Magick are personal and are more likely to be encountered following your passions be it playing music or dancing or yoga or whatever than spending years studying Enochian Magick or The Goetia. You'll probably get more out of Minecraft than out of Thelema, straight up if it sparks your imagination and allows you to enter a flow state that's basically half the work done to having a mystical experience. The experience of having my black cloak and wand in a bag as I took the metro to my OTO Temple was surreal and felt kinda cool at first but over time I realized it was also silly. Minecraft can be your wand and roleplaying in a server can be a ritual. It's all in your mind and how you process reality, that's all occultism is in the end.
If you're really looking for insights into the secrets of the universe study physics (actual physics not the hippy stuff) and classical philosophy like Plotinus, Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Spinoza and so on. Occult literally is just a word for "hidden" (not hidden as kept from the public but in a more subtle way like the stuff that's hidden from base consciousness... understanding something like what relativity is and what space and time are in relation to relativity is occult just as much as a Thelemic ritual is... except relativity is based on reality ;) and with the internet there is nothing truly hidden anymore for those who go out seeking. The real challenge now is learning to separate meaningless noise from whatever it is that rings true to the little voice in your head that is always grasping to understand, evolve and become a wiser better person both for your own sake and for the sake of the journey itself. So much of the "occult" is outdated nonsense that is historically interesting but much of it reeks of pre-modern-science attempts to systematize reality, often in ridiculous ways. Einstein was on the right track when he said "I believe in Spinoza's God" and I can only imagine what insights an intellect like Einstein was able to achieve... probably more than Isaac Newton who secretly worked away at occult experiments along side physics... and likewise in a few hundred years what understandings the wisest of us now have will be seen as primitive. That's what I love about The Great Work... it doesn't matter how far you yourself go in unifying yourself with The Absolute, others will come in the future and do so in new and glorious ways. In current year we have so many ways to accomplish the goals of ancient mystics and all of it you can do from home with a little reading and self reflection. All occultism has the goal of "The Great Work" (though may call it different things like Gnosis) but to stick with calling it The Great Work Crowley defined it as "the uniting of opposites; it may mean the uniting of the soul with God, of the microcosm with the macrocosm, of the female with the male, of the ego with the non-ego" which yeh if you're dedicated enough to the pursuit of Truth there's no need for things like Thelema or the OTO anymore... you've got everything you could possibly need but many go nuts because there's just so much and 99.99% of it is distractions and delusions... which is why you get stuff like those silly videos that led me to leave the original comment. Rather than a secret society I now just have friends and lovers who are likewise interested in these things. I somewhat miss parts of the group ritual aspect of the OTO but I've talked to my friends about it and we might play around with the idea without taking it too seriously (taking things seriously is a major trap in occultism, it's all a delicate balance between not letting the ego get too seriously obsessed with the search and not letting the ego forget the search instead getting obsessed by whatever society has to offer as distractions)
Speaking of Minecraft though someone recreated Boleskine House in Minecraft (Crowley's large cottage in Scotland, on Loch Ness of course (before any sightings of Nessie so local folk like to blame Crowley for the "monster" XD) and which Led Zepplin's Jimmy Page bought for a while as he was super into Crowley. Boleskine is where Crowley attempted to perform the frankly embarrassingly complex Ambremelin Ritual which is supposed to make you come into direct contact with your Guardian Angel. The kind of stuff described by that ritual I've experienced entirely sober just dancing at rave festivals for a few days in nature... other times not so sober but hey use the tools nature gives you, responsibly.
Was going to mention this, glad you did! What about the belief system makes one go insane? Did the Abramelin ever come up when you were involved?
i thought it was chaos magick?
I've been following forgotten languages for years now. Here's my conclusion: I think forgotten languages is posting something called "theory-fiction", which is the term for writing that is half fiction and half philosophical/sociological essay.
In the 90's there was a group of eccentric philosophers and sociologists that formed a think tank called the Cybernetic Cultural Research Unit that published surreal cyberpunk and occult themed essays. They even included an internal false lore about themselves.
I think what you're seeing here is a group of academics (including some linguists evidently) creating their own theory fiction in conlangs to share with each other.
the does sound plausible, and pretty neat
except the vast majority of what they are posting is not original. afaik they even said that they just run text through their language program and post the results. whats exceptionally odd is their selection of articles to run through. while many do resemble some of the fiction written by land and co., a majority seem to be reputable publications from actual journals.
i highly recommend digging into the posts from TheCrawlerFL who was spooked off of the internet after putting in a FOIA request due to a classified cia document number being listed in the bibliography of one of their articles. (the request seems to have actually been recorded, despite claims from CIA record keepers, because the request is logged in the publicly available FOIA black vault)
I see how the linguistics aspect of the site could be fun for some, just kinda disappointed for just having a program to translate it (if this is true, then) is really easy to just run a bunch of random text thru the translator and see what it comes up with, while some other conlangs have ways to evolve into more interesting languages
Is that where Nick Land got popular or am I misremembering
@@aaaaaahhh9537 you are correct
I reached out to SCM about his work. He was not arrested or harmed in any way, he simply moved on from the project. The point of the project was a social experiment relating to how we are filmed all the time, but only get mad when there is a person holding the camera.
His new project is "Vagrant Holiday" on YT. Honestly a way better project, so interesting.
When and how? I didn't think Vagrant Holiday had social medias
Apparently 00390 is connected to SCM cause the VERY FIRST thing I found when searching up Surveillance Camera Man was a playlist with a couple of his videos but uploaded by 00390
@FACEL1FT pretty sure 00390 was supposed to be an ARG, SCM and Vagrant Holiday are more likely just videos done as a hobby.
@@guydude439 I just thought it was weird that 00390 is involved in it. Kinda random
The tulpamancy rabbit hole is honestly fuckin hilarious. You get shit like a 4chan anon who manifested a Peter Griffin tulpa who does nothing but harrass him and make shitty jokes, and can even send him into hallucinated cutaway gags.
Holy crap that sounds hilarious- plus, kinda feel bad for that host 😂😂.
We’ve got a headmate in here who’s a living meme half of the time, we kinda just blame random brain shit on him whenever it happens and he just kinda smiles at us, never confirming nor denying his involvement.
Also, we have an adult cartoon character, Rick Sanchez, in here, but he’s definitely less of a walking meme and more of a perma-asshole that literally has no use.
There's a big difference between surveillance cameras that may never be looked at, for like a company, for the point of theft or other crime, vs one guy taking video explicitly of you, for his own enjoyment, for no reason. It's not the same at all
Yeah, i always had a thought about it, if you never or will never see it, interact with it, or it bother you, does that thing really exist? Even if it exist what does it matter to you if it never shows up in your life? And what does this man did is the exact opposite of not bothering them
And yeah because what does this man did is not legal and there is no guarantee that this man won't do something worse, not to mention the fact that this man literally just starring at someone for a long time, even if he doesn't recording they'd be bothered aswell
@@saltysalt844 it is not illegal to film people in public. In public there is no expectation of privacy and in the USA you legally can film whoever for whatever reason in public locations and public buildings, and while it may be irritating, it's protected under the first amendment with our right of freedom of speech.
@@C.K.MillerPoet_Extraordinaire Just because you have the right to act like a creep doesn't mean you should.
@@doctorrobert1339 I wasn't talking about the social dynamic or morality of doing so tho, I was explaining the legality of it to the person who said it's illegal.
As someone who's been online since the early/mid '90s, whenever you run across high weirdness or "mysterious" internet stuff, the answer is almost always: A) art project or creepypasta type content, B) conspiracy theory insanity by possibly mentally ill people
C) Something made either under the influence of, or for the enhancement of, hallucinogens.
"A)" is a lost art form. I miss the Art Bell show and what it brought to the table.
Yes. Modern “creepypasta” ie; the stuff that coined the term, is juvenile and retarded. Just awful. Even worse is how stuff like Slenderman has become actually believed in as real. I mean ffs I was there in the original creepy photoshop contest thread on SA when that crap was invented. Now you got terrible movies and stupid kids literally murdering each other over this character. Ugh.
I feel like some people sympathizing with security man don’t think about that when we enter an establishment, we expect there to be camera in case of theft, armed robbery, assault. These cameras aren’t often looked through unless there was an incident. When a stranger goes up to a person and records them for absolutely no reason, of course they’re going to be uncomfortable bc it’s a one random person who’s recording another random person. What’s he gonna do with a video of someone in his device? See, that ofc will be unsettling.
What could they do with it? A whole lotta nothin
When we enter an establishment sure, you know how many cameras record you everyday when you're walking in a city? His whole point with it is you are constantly surveilled without your "permission".
I mean he is kind of breaching people's rights to privacy, but like he also made Vagrant Holiday so I think the guy is awesome.
How do you know the camera aren’t often looked at? How do you think they know when a robbery is happening? Why would they install cameras that no one ever checks, that would be a waste of money and an investment no sane business owner would take.
@@zeallust8542 if they can’t do anything with it anyway, then why even have them up? Such a stupid take…
You know it’s gonna be a good day when parallel pipes uploads a video
*good year
and its my birthday so even better
@@elbowjuiced happy birthday!
@@elbowjuiced unhappy birthday
Blameitonjorge too !!
"For example, in *chapter 820* the entire Wikipedia article for Hurricane Katrina has been copied and pasted into the fan fiction"
good shit
As one does
“It was relevant”
One of my favorite Tulpa creepypastas is the story of this one guy who was socially awkward and lonely, and wanted to create a Tulpa of Pinkie Pie from My Little Pony to be his friend. However, he made the mistake of going to sleep/not finishing the ritual, and so the Pinkie Pie Tulpa appeared to be incredibly distorted and dream-like. Now he lives in fear of this pink, unfinished creature that haunts him from time to time.
That's incredibly s†upìd. That's also not how tulpas work.
so you mean a spirit or smt? that's not how tulpas work
are you mfs in the comments illiterate ? they said its a creepypasta LMFAOOO
As a woman, I can confidently say the MAJOR difference between a security camera and a random man filming me in public is that the security camera is there for SECURITY purposes, and I know what it’s for. The random man, however, has unknown intentions, and for all I know he could be filming me for his creepy spank bank or something similar.
ALSO, when I walk into a supermarket I know the cameras are there so I'm consenting to being filmed. No one gave this creep permission.
As a man, I can assure you most men feel the same way
LITERALLY my first thought it hes a sex trafficker and i need to run
it was an art project meant to convey a message, message being your always being recorded without your consent. pretty much all the time.
he wanted people to understand that this anger or confusion should be directed at government bodies that collect our information by force, same with stores or like gas stations or any mobile device ect. he goes by vagrant holiday now and he makes banger videos
Yeah sure "security" is the only reason, absolutely no other possible reasons why the government would record us
The thing with doveland is that both the name is something that works together so well it tricks ppl into sounding familiar and also that doveland was a name of a place in multiple movies and books that people may pull false memories from. This is because doveland is an easy and quick use name that authors may just use for a throwaway place in their stories
Yeah, you can check out some of Elisabeth Loftus work on false memories, absolutely amazing
19:50 as far as I’m aware the longest fanfiction is one for the subspace emissary which was the story mode in Super Smash Bros Brawl. This fic is called Worlds Conquest and it is over 4 million words long. I haven’t read it but it seems pretty cool because the idea of video game characters from different series meeting up to fight together is awesome. The cutscenes from brawl where the characters interacted were some of my favorite parts of the entire game and it makes total sense that it could be expanded. Video game characters from different series interacting is something I bet a ton of people could get mileage out of writing about and the subspace emissary was a great jumping off point.
I believe that one that is larger is called 'Diego diaries' and is somewhere in the ballpark of 11 million words.
It is a transformers fanfiction but that is all that I know about it.
Im tempted to make an ai translate the script to a video inspired by the scripts.
And if I'm not mistaken, it was written by a Mexican kid trying to teach themself english and they got better has the story went on.
i thought it was that loud house one
edit: i’m a fucking idiot it’s in the video lmao
I'm a speed reader and Worlds Conquest took me a full 6 hours to read. Last 5,000 pages kinda lost steam.
Can’t wait for this to blow up, these are rare but you are easily my favorite “internet diver” youtuber. Here’s to more success!
Agreed
I concur
Our parents always warned us that the internet was a weird place, however I don’t think they truly knew how strange it would get.
As someone who was on the internet back in the late 90s and used AOL chat rooms (and probably talked to lots of pedo’s), the internet has always been incredibly weird.
@@JosephQPublic people in general and French people
Thoth 93 is a massive reference to Aliester Crowley’s religion of Thelema, Thoth/Mercury being an important god within it and 93 being the gematric equivalent of both Agape and Thelema, that’s a number which is extremely important in that religion + it’s full of occult and Thelemic imagery, including liber 777 written by Aliester Crowley
The TH-cam channel also references The Cube of Saturn, a conspiracy theory from 4chan’s /x/. I am 100% certain that the person who runs the Thoth 93 account is from /x/, and most of the people who post on /x/ are completely insane
I was gonna watch one of those videos but any mention of fucking /x/ makes me extremely hesitant. They're like /b/'s schizophrenic cousin, which is saying a lot.
longest fanfiction i know of is diego diaries by arctapus. its a transformers fic spread over 8 "books" or parts because the ff.n interface gives the author issues when she hits 200+ chapters but it varies. As of last official count, 10.4 million words, 4333 chapters, and has been updated nearly every day since 2011. I've read the whole thing several times, if theres any plagiarism its might be like a line or two done in reference, nothing so egregious as an entire fucking wikipedia article, or even actual script. always makes me grumpy when people call subspace emissary or whatever the longest fic when my homie arctapus has been at the grind for 12 YEARS.
Omg, I know of a fanfic that started around 2014 and has 5.7 million words on Ao3 but 10 million is fucking insane
@@regulareffect truly. its my favorite work of fiction ever, i genuinely plan to print it out and have it bound in hardcover volumes. not for sale or anything, just for me to always have. its such an incredible thing, honestly. almost definitely an acquired taste but god. its my favorite thing ever (hence why i have read it so much lol)
Alright, if we're talking about WORD count, it is Loud House: Revamped, started in 2017, updated every day since then and still going, with 17 million words and counting. Diego Diaries is 7 million short.
However, if we're talking about the longest RUNNING, it would be Diego Diaries, yeah.
@@askinnyshademan i think that the word count shouldn't.... count...? considering how much plagiarism, literal copy-and-pasting is done on LHR, whereas diego diaries is like 99.999% original writing (i dont say 100% because im sure theres word-for-word quotes or references in there somewhere.)
how have you read it all multiple times? wow!
The reason surveillance camera mans channel had his videos removed was most likely because of Washington state's recording laws, where candidly recording someone without their knowledge or consent is illegal and can actually land you in prison. (i.e double consent?? i think its called)
He now runs under a channel called Vagrant Holiday.
Vagrant Holiday is legitimately a rad channel. His McNiel Island journey was weird af.
He hasn't had a video up on his channel in a year, so I hope he's alright.
@@_Jay_Maker_ Well after how his last video almost turned out, I think it's safe to say he's taking a break before he does something like that again
@@guydude439 holy shit, thats him????
@@tayilorr Mostly everyone on the internet is certain it's him
The surveillance guy's first video is on a college campus. College campuses have contemporary art departments where people do all sorts of weird things, of which his project barely even stands out except for the mystery around it and how mysteries overlap into the internet mysteries niche interest area. If you geolocated the campus he was on and talked to faculty in their fine arts program I'm sure you'd find him.
Whatever the intended purpose, forgotten languages is an interesting (maybe accidental) commentary on the inaccessibility of science and information on the internet.
There are millions of research papers on every topic you could hope for but every one of them is so wrapped up in its own hyper-specific linguistic hellscape that, to someone who’s not deeply imbedded in the very specific topic discussed in the paper, it’s either completely inaccessible or a several hour slog at minimum to even translate a fraction of what the damn thing is trying to say.
Forgotten languages highlights this beautifully by literally translating the papers into one of many _completely inaccessible languages_ that can only be deciphered by someone who already been given the key to deciphering them.
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3:25 93 is used by Thelemites & means "will" and "love". Thoth 93's channel has many references to Thelema & the occult. And after reading comments & watching a few of the videos, as well as looking at affiliated channels I can say with certainty that his channel is about Thelema & the occult.
definitely… it gives hypersigil vibes
What's the point of disavowing nazism if you're gonna support italy and spanish fascism, which are just as racist and genocidal?
Whats up parellel pipes! I lived in wisconsin for 6 years, specifically in the Pewaukee area. The town of doveland was actually something I remember from my childhood (2004-2011ish). People had mugs, shirts, even hats that said doveland on them but like you said, easily could be a hoax to promote the legend. But i do remember my teachers telling us about doveland around halloween, my friends made it a scary story (to us kids doveland became sort of like Oniontown like mythwise if youve ever heard of it). Looking back at it, Doveland at least to me, was like a urban legend or hell even like a creepypasta, that would get spread around on the playground to scare you.
Just as fake as the other comments
@@Void_Wars why should we believe you then, when your comment is fake?
That's actually really cool. Loved a good spooky urban legend as a kid!
I grew up in Lacrosse Wisconsin and I remember this same thing 👍🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perhaps it’s like Artesian spring water, no such place, it’s a running joke.
Another thing that might prove that LHOHQ is an art project is that its name sounds a lot like "L.H.O.O.Q", an artwork by Marcel Duchamp, who is known for being very influential in modern art.
About Doveland. For what I've seen, apparently it was a made up town from an old map of the zone. The practice of making up little towns on small little maps appears to had been a normal practice for when the person or team didnt wanted to put that much efford into the job, so the general consensus is that a cartographer made it up, it was deleted when the zone was re-cartographed, and that old map was used as the base for the legend.
The FBI FOIA documents Joe from Carolina had were fake. He created them as part of his skit for the video. He’s stated that a few times.
i wonder if doveland started as a sort of paper town for the original iceberg chart it came from. paper towns, for anyone who wasnt a john green fan when they were 15, were fake towns invented by map companies as a form of copyright protection. if another company was printing a map based off of another company's map and it included the paper town, it was proof that they had plagiarized their map
Isabella Janke wanted to be the ultimate troll in Chris Chan’s life, but must’ve forgot that that position has been filled for years, by the one and only Liquid Chris, the only troll that wasn’t out to ruin his life and was just having good old fashioned fun, there is no topping that legend
16:28 Active users means people who have logged in a service within a certain period of time, usually the last year. If you say just "user" that means only accounts, which would include people who made an account, played for five minutes and left. It also never goes down. Active users give you a much more precise bottom of how much a software is used.
When he says he doesn’t know what is meant by active user, I think he means he doesn’t know how long that period of time is that the user would’ve had to log in during,.
@@CornfordYT Yeah, some sites/programs/etc stop counting active users after like a week inactivity
@@CornfordYT you might be right, but it's a weird way to phrase it
At this point "that whole thing that Chris-Chan did" is such a broad statement it could mean literally anything and yet everyone knows exactly what you mean by it.
Remember when "that whole thing that Chris-Chan did" was literally just "he drew porn of his only friend"
2:47 honestly major props to the creator, as pieces of editing art those videos absolutely rock
i was literally just binging all his videos for like the tenth time. im so glad he uploaded i love this guy
it must be said that loud house revamped isnt just the longest fanfiction, but also the longest piece of english written work, though since most of it is just parts of wiki pages i personally think that one super smash bros fanfic is still the longest. either of them being the longest is fucking insane though
The three longest works on English literature are fanfictions
I think this is the list, ranked.
1. LH:R
2. Diego Diaries
3. Subspace Emissary.
"Longest piece of literature" belonging to fanfic never sat right with me because there are serialized works since the 1930s that are still going to this day, maybe some even older. Superman, the comic itself, has been in publication since the early 1940s to this very day, serialized, has probably surpassed it in sheer length by now. The reason why fanfic is counted and published works are often not because it's hard to justify a book over 1000 pages due to how expensive mass producing it would be. Digital works don't have that issue. If you count the collective word count of massive on-going franchises, it'll dwarf the fanfics.
@@amelialonelyfart8848 The issue is that they're issues or series. Not intended to be read as one long work. I consider those separate works, even with an ongoing storyline. That's why I don't consider "Marienbad My Love" to be on that list either
@@watching7721 A lot of hte longest fanfics are anthologies too, is the problem. Some of the longest comics are, to some extent, an ongoing storyline. They're only separated into issues for convivence and serialization. If these juggernaut fanfics were actual published works, they'd be in the same boat.
The "Surveillance Camera Man" i think now is revealed to be "Vagrant Holiday" from what Pyrocinical said in a video a bit ago. I think he chose just to switch his content fron the whole going up to randoms and now actually makes really good content from what i watched
When did Pyrocynical talk about him?
Yeah he made a video on his channel where he did this exact thing. It's in the description to his video, "riot holiday"
Vagrant Holiday is a super based channel
@@liam4002 i cant remember which one? I only remember him talking of it in one of them
woah, i was not expecting that
The area listed as a DUMB in SE Pennsylvania used to be called National Underground Security. It was a hue underground mine tat was used to store physical copies of government paperwork and also contained old govt servers. I worked there for about a year updating labels on computer tapes from the patent office. It was one of those old time data units where the data tapes are in a big sealed cylinder and the robot in the center reads color codes and grabs the right tape then inserts it into the tape drive.
It was a cool place but if anything sinister was there they kept it pretty well hidden considering hundreds of local workers going in and out all day.
This comment section is one of the most genuinely interesting ones I've ever seen in my decade or so on the internet, along with the video of course. I love accumulating information and insight of any kind on any subject. I've been in the depths of the internet, but there's still SO much to see.
Here's something I can add: There was a band called Five Starcle Men, and to extremely simplify it, they were two guys who took DXM like everyday for a few years while also making music. There's an album(?) called Goomba Reject Ward that has a lot of their work. I found these guys from a post on the DXM subreddit like 7 years ago. I remember finding a video of a "live performance" but it was more like the weirdest music video I've ever seen. Plus who tf would go 😂.
The music is...I don't even know. I listened to the entire fucking album on a band trip in freshman year I think. Mental illness attracts mental illness lol.
Another interesting insanity album is Hello Kitty Suicide Club, or that might be the artist. That shit is extremely loud though.
since you mentioned it a funny fact or thing ive seen whenever the psychonaut wiki is brought up is that ive seen many get it confused for yet another wiki of a game thats also called psychonauts somewhat often, not to mention because these communities share the literal same name on the tags like twitter for it you’ll get a huge mix bag of you either getting stuff related to the game or a bunch of post related to drugs, pills, etc. keep up the videos btw! love your content 👍
It’s like a catfish for junkies … at least now you know how we feel
I mean, there is no way shrooms weren't involved with the making of that game.
You know, the world's longest webcomic, Homestuck, can be viewed as a fanfiction of the movie Hook if you think about it.
for realsies? on god?
Between the 3 cities I lived in growing up, visitation weekends with my father, and attending two universities in Wisconsin, I have never seen or even heard anyone mention any town named Doveland. I even spent several summers working in Wisconsin Dells, which hires people from all over the world and houses them as part of their pay for the summer, I've never heard of it. However, I really wouldn't be surprised to learn if the whole thing is similar to "Mandela Effect" occurrences. There are several unincorporated towns with names close to "Doveland." Delavan immediately comes to mind.
Same. Lived in D.C. my whole life and never heard of "Wisconsin." Apparently it's a state in the "midwest" but even that's a lie because anyone can clearly tell the American Midwest is actually the Middle East of America. Midwest would be Montana.
I say we rename the Midwest to the Middle East effective immediately.
if you're really from Wisconsin, then name every cheese
Parallel pipes is the definition of quality over quantity. Love your videos👍
thanks bigfoot
yeah it reminds me of Lemino's channel
@@cheddix_ frfr
Like seriously, that Deathrun footage is actually gold, I watch these videos just for his pro gameplay.
He kinda sounds like andrew from buzzfeed
7:26 - The docs are probably real, but to be fair, IF what Schneider is saying is correct, it stands to reason that the information about him contained in the files is completely fabricated to discredit him.
15:17 Hans Wormhat is a character from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
More specifically the episode “Charlie Kelly: King of the Rats”
He’s just the German guy who shoots at Charlie from his attack plane while he’s running in his dreams
Pretty sure the longest fanfic ever is that super smash bros. one, it’s called The Supspace Emissary’s Worlds Conquest. Might not be the longest anymore but last I checked it was
17:30 The 16,777,215 is the largest integer number you can store using 3 bytes. Also there are 16,777,216 different colours in RGB-model
That also caught my eye. I guess that the "fanfiction" is actually longer but that is just the biggest number the site can display as the word count. It's either that, or the whole thing is generated with a computer program set to make it exactly 2^24-1 words, which, given the content, would also make a lot of sense.
Thoth 93 is a reference to the religion of Thelema, and the occult works of Aliester Crowley on the whole. The number 93 is the Germatric equivalent of "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." It is customary for fellow Thelemites to both greet and depart from one another by saying, "93s!"
I have not visited the page, but from the snippets shown here I recognize a number of popular occult symbols, primarily those used in invoking Enochian angels.
That's fucking terrifying. It's either incomprehensible social commentary, a strange troll, or cult shit. What the fuck.
I can confirm, im from Doveland Wisconsin but I was erased from the timeline in the 90s.
I mean, technically gangstalking is real, it just happens to lolcows. Have you seen what happened to Chris Chan, or Daniel Larson, or Joshua Block, or basically any other person who's been constantly harrassed and obsessively had their life documented?
The same methods have been used openly by orgs such as Scientology, and it's a common tactic used by organized crime to quash potential whistleblowers and victims from speaking to the authorities.
Sometimes marginalized people with an online presence are targeted by criminals as a means to muddy the waters and discredit any other victims from stepping forward. Their reactions to being harassed are predictable and alienating. The methods used are absolutely ridiculous, which is the point. Anybody reporting the harassment they've received would be written off as insane.
Source : I kinda know someone who married a person involved in that scene.
My family is from Wisconsin, and from what I can gather, no one back home remembers a place called Doveland. I haven't been able to ask my Conspiracy Theory spouting Uncle yet, and I will update when I can talk to him and ask him. But my current best guess is that there may have been a Billboard up that maybe called a certain location in Wisconsin "Doveland" or maybe it's the town nickname, or it could even just be a joke to poke fun of how Wisconsin town names are and how many people in Wisconsin are susceptible to conspiratorial thinking.
Okay I got a response back, he says he's never heard of it, I feel like that's pretty telling how likely this place ever existed 🤷
@@adamusprime403 it’s telling that you can’t understand the cognitive dissonance of calling him “conspiracy theory spouting” while also taking his word on doveland at face value 🤣
@@wolfetteplays8894 I think you missed the reason I stated him being conspiracy spouting, which is that if it was a relatively old conspiracy he of all people would have heard of it. I really shouldn't have needed to explain that 🤷
Leaving a comment to come back for update
@@enviousshade1770 sorry if my update was partially hidden, I talked to him and he said he had never heard of Doveland. I see that as a pretty good sign that the Doveland conspiracy is rather new, and most likely fabricated, because if there was an actual Doveland conspiracy from the 90's, my uncle would have definitely heard of it, especially because of how deep and how long he's been within conspiracy theory communities.
It should probably be noted that tulpa (the Tibetan spelling of which is more like sprul pa) are actually a concept derived from Tibetan Buddhism, wherein, to make a long story short, they are manifestations of the compassion of the Buddha(s) summoned as guides to enlightenment through intense meditation and shaped by the disposition and mindstate of the summoner. The very online version is taken from the interpretation of the idea which appears in Theosophy and other weird niche New Age movements drawing on Tibetan Buddhist ideas, which generalises the concept of the tulpa to independent beings created and shaped through meditation and will.
Funnily enough, I knew about the original definition from when I was little through the very strange children's book Tibet: Through the Red Box by Peter Sís, so when I found out they were something of an internet meme connected to ponies of all things, I was initially *very* confused. As for what I think now, well, I think it's mostly just nascent plurality and dissociation? Which is really interesting in its implications about how the human mind works, and could certainly have some interesting spiritual dimensions, but ultimately it's kind of its own thing outside of what is a fairly specific and rare religious practice.
Yeah, as someone who's in plural circles (I have DID and practise healthy plurality). Tulpamancy is a term that a lot of people are trying to move away from since the Buddhists who practise it in the context of their closed religion have expressed discomfort with it becoming a widespread idea or phenomenon with a different connotation.
There are still people who practise plurality by creating headmates/alters (either separate from DID/OSDD, or alongside it) under the term "thoughtforming". It is really interesting what the brain is capable of with enough dedication and willpower.
@@thecatherd you cannot willingly create alters that's just called roleplaying. Trying to pretend or give urself DID or OSDD because you think it'll be fun and you want it or some glamorized version of it is insulting. There's no shame in simply roleplaying as your favorite characters or ocs and identifying with them.
@@circuitboardsystem The problem with this line of thinking is that undiagnosed dissociative disorders and experiencing dissociation as a function of other forms of mental illness or neurodivergence are not uncommon, so even if you take the stance that it is impossible to "willingly" dissociate in such a way as to produce an altered state of consciousness, that doesn't rule out the possibility of such an alter emerging in non-traumatic circumstances regardless of the root causes of that malleability of consciousness. Plus, the way that people frame these things can be ambiguous: Consider how many children develop imaginary friends, but sometimes that imaginary friend turns out to be more than that. None of this "glamourises" plurality, but merely recognises that how we interpret our experiences as people who dissociate vary. Note that I say this as someone who has experienced arguments between about five distinct people in my head before-co-consciousness and switching can be truly exhausting and even scary-so please don't assume I'm trying to sugarcoat matters.
@@ConvincingPeople my comment keeps disappearing for some reason but go to the card called why-endos-are-bad ik the name sounds aggressive but the carrd isn't aggressive or rude it simply just states facts
Also my point still stands on stop trying to give yourself effects of a disorder you don't have because it seems fun to you. It's insulting. Just roleplay there's no shame in roleplaying. People attempt to give themselves the effects of this disorder [which they can't do] because they want to and it seems fun to them then take up spaces for people that genuine have this disorder
@@circuitboardsystem There are points in this piece which are not unreasonable and I'd broadly agree with, but the framing leans hard into respectability politics territory which I honestly find really dangerous, in part because it presupposes a "solved" state for dissociative disorders based primarily in research by singlets who have historically seen total integration/final fusion as the ideal end goal of DID/OSDD treatment, and in part because of how it can impact people with undiagnosed dissociative disorders who might simply view their experiences differently for whatever reason but are nonetheless deserving of support. There are certainly some bizarre misconceptions which a very tiny minority of people seem to have, some perhaps rooted in other psychological disorders and other simply fanciful, but while dispelling these is likely necessary, I feel like attempting to gatekeep people who might simply be interpreting their condition differently-for example, people who cannot recall a particular inciting traumatic event as precipitating their plurality but, again, might remember having always had a complex internal dialogue-does more harm than good in the long run. To give a concrete example, I have met at least one person currently diagnosed with DID who first began to seriously question whether their experiences were more than simply a product of being on the autism spectrum following what they initially assumed to be a successful attempt at producing a thoughtform.
Additionally, there are theories of mind which suggest that a unified self is not the starting point of human cognition, but rather than say that trauma is *absolutely necessary* to produce a multipartite sense of self, instead suggest that the self often continues to exist on a spectrum of compartmentalisation, with plurality or multiplicity existing at the extreme end of this compartmentalisation, and that while trauma no doubt encourages this, the underlying tendency prefigures it. That said, I'm not a neuroscience expert, so I'd advise reading up on this on your own.
At the end of the day, though, I'm sympathetic to your frustrations with outsiders, as you see it, essentially doing hardcore LARPing under the guise of a disorder which directly impacts your day-to-day life. That fucking sucks. But at the same time, maybe it's because I spend a lot of time in very small, tight-knit circles of very specific plural people, but in terms of who I've met, that sort of person feels like more of a boogeyman meant to demonise us than an accurate portrayal of the few self-identified endogenous/non-traumagenic systems I've met-who I admit I'm not sure *are* non-traumagenic, but it's not my damned business to tell them how and why their brain works the way that it does.
Psychonaut wiki was my go to for over researching/analysing the drug(s) that I was gonna use. It's extremely informative and very good for harm reduction...even tho the drugs always ended up harming me in the long run mentally and physically lmao
Psychonaut wiki is a blessing tbh. One of the forefronts of harm reduction information without an ounce of shaming.
Im curious how many people have literally had their lives saved by Psychonaut Wikis dosage guides and interaction warnings.
Erowid too (or maybe I'm just old lol)
@@eden.nd. Erowid is still used often in the drug community
I highly doubt they “harmed you.” Sounds like you’ve become yet another oxygen-breathing propaganda machine for big pharma
Thoth 93 is the shit that happens when the calculator finally figures out how to divide by zero
Real
Gang stalking is a tough subject to get into, especially with how the world is, in some cases it’s true so when people are worried sometimes they do have some foundation for why they believe they’re being gang stalked. Other times it is a case of severe anxiety, paranoia, mental breakdowns, drug use, and a whole slew of things. It’s interesting, but sometimes it’s best to let the interests stay mysterious.
This was a well presented video but basically what I got out of it was, “there’s nothing ‘really’ going on out there” and life is pretty mundane and extremely normal.
As far as the surveillance camera man thing goes, some people believe that he is the author of Vagrant Holiday series on youtube (great stuff, really recommend watching it)
Vagrant Holiday is one of, if not the best channel I've ever watched
@@combine161 Well apparently he uploaded 2 short videos like 9 months ago on some other website (I forgot what it was, maybe Media Fire?) Though they are both short and don't really tell us anything
@@combine161 a few months ago i think
@@guydude439 Ight, guess im checkin it out
The Parasite Pill PDF is a borderline cognitohazard. I only read it once but I think about it at least a couple times a week lmao
New scp lol
That’s because you’re waking up from the narrative that’s shoved down our throats
Lol, I used to think about it often, so much so I remembered the name after 20+ years.
Toxoplasmosis.
I remember it from a BBC nature documentary on parasites where it went trough it's lifecycle and it basically makes the host slow witted so it'll be easily caught, they showed how infected river fish wouldn't react fast enough to evade predators.
It makes cysts on the brain which reduce reaction time and help it be passed up the food chain.
The human mind would(and does) tear itself apart with paranoia but just cook meat properly and you'll be fine.
Worm pilled 🪱🪱🪱
Time stamps for anyone who wants to reach a certain section but can’t find it (arranged by the order of the png):
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Tulpamancy -
IncelWiki -
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Project Red Sun -
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Surveillance Camera Man -
Floating Chinese City -
Susie's Dying -
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Philip Schneider -
Death Tracker -
Forgotten Languages -
Golf rumors -
"There is Nothing" - 38:47
Dead internet -
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I.J. -
Lose Lose Game -
Stinky meat -
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The surveillance camera guy stuff got deleted for legal reasons. He has 18 court documents that I've found so far convicting him of stalking, harassment, voyeurism and criminal trespass. Most of those are obvious about what he was doing, but there's also something else. You can legally record someone in public without consent (most of the time), but when he focuses on a subject and then monetizes it with expressed opposition to it, that is also a crime. He also stated that it was his intent to film people against their will and intentionally aggravate them. So, in effect, his entire channel was himself posting evidence of his crimes.
He mentions the reason he was filming to begin with was to show how people react differently to a person following them around filming and stores/cities security cameras. But that is not a very good argument. Majority of cameras are inside if private establishments that the person can willing enter and leave, while state or government owned cameras have very tight control and restrictions on how they can be used, so the comparison is minimum.
Love these videos, please never stop.
i was worried the iceberg demons had gotten to you in your sleep, glad to see you're still with us
Dude good to see you are alive. Seriously though welcome back. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs and it’s been awesome to see you grow over these past few years. I’ve been around since the TH-cam iceberg and I’ve been hooked ever since. Lots of love man thanks for giving me something to listen to while I do stuff.
parallel videos always go so hard, i appreciate the effort and time you put into researching and making content so much
The first mystery is definitely ether an artist, motion graphics/animation student, or just a person with a lot of time to create. A lot of these type of "trippy" videos are just art projects. You’d be surprise how much crazy stuff is created by art students (and being completely fine, mentally). Most of the time it doesn’t get posted to the internet so when it does it’s a bit confusing to others.
Honestly it fucked with me a little, but yeah it's either an artist or some cult shit
@@atroposVAccording to another commenter it is actually in fact heavily related to the occult, but not really in an evil way. I think it's a mix of occult stuff and a type of art project
Videos like these are way better than other stuff like the weapon video (even though that was just 1 video). The rabbit hole and internet mystery videos are so good.
The Surveillance Camera Man is actually still on youtube. He now goes under the name 'Vagrant Holiday'. Good content, would reccomend.
Vagrant Holiday is probably one of the best channels on TH-cam. I often find myself rewatching his (unfortunately very few) videos
I imagine the whole Doveland thing is related to the mandela effect, where large swaths of people remember things that never existed
Yea, I wonder if there’s an area/county in a part of Wisconsin named/colloquially named something similar to Doveland, causing the confusion.
That, or it is indeed completely made up.
I feel like it's an easy thing to claim. There's plenty of obscure places that are named for some reason in my state, you could easily claim some place exists and I'd take you on your word for it.
@@matthewlong7547 i wish alabama, alabama was one of those lol. i hate that we have a city named after the state, it gets so tiresome explaining it
The ‘Mandela effect’ is peak brainrot istg
I will say about that Robert Golf one, the CIA did actually try using remote viewing during the cold war, up to around just before the turn of the millennium, which was done under Project Stargate. I used to trawl the CIA's online reading room when I was bored and I found hoards of documents about their supposed techniques and hypotheses, but ultimately they never really got any exciting or promising results.
The part he missed is that apparently Robert died while projecting so they saw a small part of heaven and that the heaven found footage was stolen from the CIA by the Vatican. Sorry if that was worded poorly
33:39 I managed to decode some of the website's welcome page and he second paragraph read “The chessboard is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the rules of the game are what we call the laws of nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us.”
Here is some more: "In spacesuits, the astronaut is the first astronaut chosen to pilot the lunar module and travel the lunar surface. Lunar surface beyond earth is covered by dark rocky zones to the extent of two miles as per the sample taken from the moon's surface, during a critical maneuver in orbit, and landing on a proper spot.
The astronaut cannot fly the spacecraft in real-time. Instead, he checks for changes while trying to avoid the spacecraft systems, and spacecraft is chosen like a pilot.
The spacecraft cannot change spacecraft in the vacuum of space so that the astronaut can move like a shooting star. Rapid air in the spacesuit is needed, using the astronaut's equipment to avoid space sickness. Rapid movement of the suit is crucial, with control of the spacecraft as per the sun's rays and the sample taken.
The spacecraft will fly like a fast aircraft with the pilot chosen and flying, producing important data such as speed and energy of the flying object. The astronaut will land like a real pilot, controlling and landing the spacecraft, planning important experiments and testing of the spacecraft can be done with the astronaut on the moon.
The black satellite (ABL) is a high-energy laser weapon designed to be mounted on an aircraft Boeing 747 fuselage. It uses a high-energy chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) to direct intense light energy at a target on the ground, such as enemy missiles, to destroy or damage them in flight. The ABL is designed to operate in various weather conditions and against multiple targets by employing adaptive optics to counter atmospheric turbulence and enhance the laser's effectiveness.
An enemy missile can be destroyed in midair within seconds. However, an enemy missile approaching can create its own heat source, such as engines and warheads, in large ballistic ranges. When the laser fires, it creates an intense beam of light and heat that causes the missile to break apart, burn, and explode with the release of energy and debris into the missile's flight path. The system can engage multiple missiles simultaneously."
the formula of the code is that each letter is replaced by a letter three places down in the alphabet
Parallel Pipes is the best youtuber to watch while eating
9:49 as a Wisconsinite, it could be a mishearing of Dublin
it's so funny seeing tulpamancy on here beside everything else as someone in online plural spaces lol, great video as always
Dude I love this channel because he gets straight to the point and doesn't waste time talking about stuff
I can actually give you something to think about on Dublin, WI:
Just as a town is smaller then a city, an unincorporated township, still “exists”, it just has no post office location and is, for census purposes, part of the largest city in the areas’ metro. These go on down to village and hamlet if you like.
Example: Vaughn, NM is an unincorporated township of 452 people that are counted as part of the Albuquerque metro area. Likewise, Encino, NM is also, but has a population of 12.
Dublin, WI could be the same way.
Parallel Pipes wouldn't be the same without the Minecraft death run footage.
"This FOIA document probably doesn't contain what you expect" *Reports that he's schizophrenic* no that's pretty much exactly what I expected honestly
this is what the FBI expect you expect too, or better, is what they want you to expect
@@mikuisdiva39 If this was their plan why would they keep this document behind a FOIA request. Wouldn't they want as many people as possible to know he's schizophrenic so people would stop listening to him?
I actually come from one of the cities where there is supposedly a dumb. Turns out shits real to some extent. There is a large facility under the now small modern city with its own diesel generators and rooms to house thousands of people. Turns out it was built during the world War 1 and 2. I took a snowmobile and went to one of the entrances in the mountain, and saw old rail road tracks and a huge hill worth of materials that where excavated out from the digging of the tunnels during the building of this base. Today the entrances have been shut, and what used to be a military radio listening station up on top of the mountain now has more modern telecom equipment there. An oldtimer I talked to said that it was built on a need to know basis. And that he was sure that almost nobody knew what really was under them this whole time any longer.
This is probably gonna get buried, but I want to say that your iceberg/internet mystery videos are my favorite on the whole website, and I hope you make more soon :D
I like your laid back approach to narration,not over the top but very good. It's real.
I remember Surveillance Camera Man. It was an art project. The purpose of all this is how people are watched pretty much every time, everywhere they go. But when they have a camera in their face, suddenly it ain’t ok.
It’s a classic case of government and corporate hypocrisy
@wolfetteplays8894 I think it's funny how the same guy that started Vagrant Holiday also made such a meaningful art project
@@guydude439
Or maybe it's yet another reason why they're not actually the same person?
Because he was recording audio as well. Having your somewhat private conversation record is in fact different from just being seen. In my country (Canada) it's illegal for security cameras to record audio. It's not very hard to understand why but you guys are obviously being disingenuous. That's half of what's so creepy about it.
@@guydude439 no way that's him. Are you kidding me? That's so cool.
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IVE WAITED FOR THIS!!!
Yes, I know exactly how long you waited. We all do. We see everything.
If my memory isn't failing me, I heard that Sheiki (a guy from the spanish lost media wiki) attributed the appearance of the golf rumors to himself, but it could have been just a bluff. Anyway, great video, really interesting, keep the good work up!
I just watched you play at an orchestra concert great job👍. It's crazy how much you have accomplished in such little time. (Your smolder is outstanding btw)
The "Susie is dying" one really freaked me out actually. Sounds like prime horror game material.
regarding the longest fanfic, wasn't there a fanfic on ao3 that broke the site so much that it went down for like a few days?
edit: well it's not the longest fanfic, however the amount of tags it had broke the site
Sexy Times With WangXian? AO3 had to add a cap to how many tags you can put because of the fic.
@@chillfactory9000 oh my god there's a tumblr post where it says to zoom in on the tags of sexy times with wangxian and whatever you see first is how you die
Good to see you uploading again. OGs remember when your pfp was Benson from regular show.
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I appreciate that when you don't understand something all the way, you just admit it. On the unknown languages thing in particular, I like that you pointed out that rumors and guess work have contributed negatively towards figuring out the answer.
there's actually a longer fan fic called "Super Smash Bros Under Fire: The Great Adventure Saga", being over 7 million words!
I live in Wisconsin and have been my whole life with a lot of family on the northern and southern area and there’s no Doveland. If any folklore or legend we’re known most for is the creature called the Hodag which started in Rhinelander and is definitely more exciting than a made up area.
Ah, Tulpas! I remember I got into that scene about 7 years ago now, and I really fell in deep. Some people have written proper tomes to teach people how to make tulpas.
I left that scene, and while I enjoyed my time there, I can see how it could really impact someone negatively if they let it get to them too badly. It involved a lot of introspective thought, and it's easy to miss the point I suppose, as some people took it as a way to completely avoid facing reality.
It was really interesting, but overall I think having that information in the hands of a bunch of teens with unrestricted Internet access wasn't the best idea lol.
No offense, but it definitely sounds like something that's done as a result of extreme loneliness. I can't see how it could be healthy in the long term, but to each their own...
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 it was wrapped up in a lot of mysticism, references to Tibetan Buddhist monks developing tulpas, etc
@@haydenmaines5905 yeah, I'm into Buddhism to some degree and I'm very sure tulpas are not imaginary friends you make up in your mind, because for starters, Buddhism goes against all of that. It is an evasion of reality of the highest order.
The closest thing in Buddhism to it are those mind created bodies that help you fulfill some tasks when you have some degree of enlightenment, but those are weird psychic powers that are a fringe belief in some of the sects with supposedly tangible effects in reality and only achievable by the enlightened ones, not by lonely teenagers.
I'm not saying this to be mean btw, I'm just genuinely worried about what's very obviously an unhealthy practice.
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 oh yeah no I agree it isn't actually like, following Buddhist belief. I first found out about tulpas when I was like 13 and found it somewhat interesting but never did anything about it. I was just saying they don't really portray it as a means of fixing loneliness, but more like, having an inner voice that's outside your subjective experience, so that if you're struggling with some personal dilemma you can get some perspective on the issue.
I do agree though that it really probably isn't the best thing to be doing....
@@haydenmaines5905 that's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered tbh, "to think outside of the box" and all that. But yeah, you're right...
You really need to upload more man your vids are good
Just wanted to say a binged all of your videos, keep up the great work!
Okay maybe somebody can help me out here. At some point between maybe 2011-2013 I saw a really similar channel to Surveillance Camera Man except they were basically entering the back areas of restaurants like Taco Bell, etc. and just standing there silently. It always fascinated me and I'm not sure if it's the same one mentioned here or not. Curious if anybody else recalls this, I didn't catch it in any of the archives I came across. Could be a false memory on my part for all I know, though. Feel like it predated this by a year though, wonder if it was a previous channel of his or something.
Anyway, this thing really starts off with a bang. Rad work here.
I've never seen a concentrated collection of videos like this but I have seen many videos like this. The weirdest thing is one time I noticed one of them was taking place in the deli section of my local Walmart.
@@giga-bowser Yeah I have no idea if I'll ever get to the bottom of it. I'd imagine content moderation teams on sites like this are gonna prioritize the removal of that stuff pretty hard, so it's really difficult to say whether anybody archived it or not.
The one thing I'll say about the videos I saw is that they might've been on a Facebook page rather than a TH-cam channel, but I could be mistaken. I just remember it getting shared around a Facebook group with a bunch of musicians in it basically, and it was definitely something they found rather than created themselves.
Also worth noting that I seem to recall the videos being bodycam footage (i.e. a GoPro strapped to the chest) rather than a handheld camera.
It's like... if Hardcore Henry was an NPC in an RPG game. And the whole movie is just him breaking his path cycle and going where he's not supposed to, only for his walking script to freeze up, resulting in him being unable to move or speak until you reset the game.
I remember at least 3-4 videos, but again, this is over 10 years ago minimum, so who the hell knows how much of this I'm actually recalling accurately.
Either way it's still one of the strangest things I've ever seen on the internet.
Anyway I wish you much strength in the event that you should ever encounter this aforementioned "mysterious local deli man" in the wild.
I think the 'golf rumours' post on 4chan may have been to do with something else which I vaguely remember. My understanding is it was some kind of a meme where people would refer ominously to some kind of mystery event / incident, or rumours of such an incident, and either refuse to give any details out of fear of repercussion or be really vague about it, except for the fact that it in some way involved a golf course. The general consensus was that it involved some kind of secret meeting which took place between political figures at a certain golf course, where apparently (somewhere in the US if I recall) something happened at some point, or was revealed, which was highly significant. The most detailed post I remember reading claimed that during the meeting on this golf course, something transpired which proved that god was being tortured. I remember it being a pretty spooky topic to read about, even if it was probably just a meme.
TBF the remote viewing thing was actually something the Govt experimented with/gave funding too. The Golf Rumours bit, I guess is the glass camera thing.
i can not imagine writing 1mil words for a fanfiction, I wrote a fan fiction before for fun and it was hard to just do 1 thousand words
You definitely have to be a dedicated writer
yeah, I write a lot of fanfiction and the most I’ve ever done is about 15k. Which is a lot, but nowhere near 1mil
For me it was about 50k and I spent a summer on it. 1 mil is incomprehensible @@writingfroggy3800
One internet anomaly I remember hearing or reading about is the internet void, a place deep within the internet where random bits and chunks of assorted information go there, from random blogs to assorted pages of any kind, a chunk of information goes missing, it ends up there, no one knows why or what happens to it, like some sort of black hole slowly expanding
It's interesting when people outside the tulpa community talk about tulpas. Some people are really rude about it, but some think it's interesting and just leave us be. Thanks for being the latter!
I used to have a tulpa in middle school and I would talk to him whenever I felt depressed and lonely. He helped me calm down and process my emotions better. I didn't go to therapy at the time, so it was a helpful coping mechanism. He ended up disappearing randomly, probably because I got bored of talking to him and was busy with life. I tried to make another tulpa after that, but kept failing because I was too tired to keep it up. Now he's just an OC that I draw for fun.
Anyways, tulpamancers are just normal people, usually depressed or lonely normal people though. In my opinion, a tulpa is just an imaginary friend that's so developed to the point where they appear to have their own personality and appearance. It's possible to have one without even knowing what tulpas are. Our brains are really complex, so I don't question how or why it happens. But I want to say that its VERY different from having an alter, and is not related to DID or OSDD in any way. I've seen people claiming we're trying to force mental disorders on ourselves, but that's not true at all. You make tulpas consciously and plan them out, like an OC. You can't make or control an alter, they happen subconsciously. Tulpamancy can get unhealthy sometimes, but it's okay as long as you remember they're not exactly real and they can't replace actual friends or therapists.