I bought a CHEAP harmonic mount from AliExpress !! - The Juwei-17

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    The Juwei-17 Harmonic Equatorial Mount is a high-precision, advanced mount designed for astrophotography and astronomical observations. It utilizes harmonic drive technology, which provides several benefits, including minimal backlash, high load capacity, and precise tracking. Below are the key specifications and features of the Juwei-17:
    Double 17-100 Harmonic Reducer
    Total Reduction Ratio: 400:1 (100:1 harmonic plus 1:4 synchronous wheel)
    Load Capacity: 13 kg (without counterweight), 18 kg (with counterweight ~5 kg)
    M12 Threaded Counterweight Bar: 20 mm diameter, 230 mm length
    Elevation Angle Adjustment: 10-90 degrees
    Direction Adjustment Range: 20° with azimuth screws
    Dual Saddle: Losmandy D style and Vixen dovetails supported
    Onstep Supported Devices: Computer, mobile phone, ZWO ASIAIR, NINA, WiFi, Bluetooth, hand controller, etc.
    Right Ascension Axis: Permanent magnet rake
    Data Interface: USB 2.0/WiFi/Serial over Bluetooth
    Guiding Interface: USB 2.0/WiFi/Serial over Bluetooth
    Low Temperature Tolerance: Down to -30°C
    Startup Requirement: Must be at home position
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    00:23 Price and Specs
    01:08 Mounting
    01:33 Operating the mount
    02:22 Build Quality
    02:40 Issues I have faced
    03:38 Performance
    04:08 Conclusion
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  • @betafoofoo270
    @betafoofoo270 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Great review, very professional, purposeful with no time wasting. I've seen a number of these cheaper harmonic drive mounts appearing on the likes of Ali Express and always wondered if they delivered. From your review I think you have answered that question. These represent a massive saving on the more familiar mounts from ZWO et al. Thanks for posting.

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for watching and leaving your feedback!
      I agree, I think mine just had a rough trip to me from china which caused some loose connections. Once that was sorted out, I was very impressed with the mount

  • @beatsntoons
    @beatsntoons 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    On an unrelated (sort of) note, your cable management is outstanding! Do a video on that please! My rigs are a snakes nest

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@beatsntoons Elite level complement! Thank you very much! Great idea for a video, I want to make a video on some power/usb hubs soon so maybe I can touch on it on that video 😄

  • @vidman9691
    @vidman9691 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    TY for this great review. Your honesty and concerns for your subscribers comes thru. I am saving for an AM5. Takes time as a retired old geezer. Risking $1000 on something new is difficult for me. I will be waiting to see how your experiences with it continue for a while. Keep up the good work.

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vidman9691 It is never wrong to go for the tested and proven option! Thank you for your comment and your encouragement. Truly appreciated!

  • @Jcastleinfo
    @Jcastleinfo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice review, nice book collection too!

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Jcastleinfo Thanks for the feedback! Gotta do something while the imaging sequence runs 😉

  • @LogansAstro
    @LogansAstro 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea this mount existed. Sounds like it performs extremely well. I know there was the initial problem with the declination but I've heard of issues like this from most of the well know brands as well. Will be interesting to see how well it's still performing after several months use. CS

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LogansAstro Yep, I think something came loose during the shipping. Thankfully it wasn’t anything too serious. I’ve read other reports on the mount online and people are having great experiences with it!

  • @hbkq8i
    @hbkq8i 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep it up, great video and an amazing setup!

  • @AstroQuest1
    @AstroQuest1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice review and thanks for pointing out the original 'defect'. It was good the manufacturer got back to you with a solution. My defination of good company is how they handle problem if one does occur. Seems like a good mount, wonder if it was produced at the same place that the AM5 was made.

  • @dominickzaucha
    @dominickzaucha 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review, thanks Ali!

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dominickzaucha Thank you for watching!

  • @AstroReyak
    @AstroReyak 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice to see, prices are going down with strain wave mounts, thanks for reviewing and sharing!

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AstroReyak Yep. More competition is always great for us!

  • @ScottDavies
    @ScottDavies 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great content Ali 😊 Keep them coming 👏

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ScottDavies Thank you Scott, I appreciate the support 🤝🏼

  • @nikaxstrophotography
    @nikaxstrophotography 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can you show in a litle more detail what repair you made to the Dec axis? I am seriously considering this mount but it is still an expensive gamble if it doesn't pay off and how good are they at answering your questions?

  • @pippinjg
    @pippinjg 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good work my guy !!!!!!!

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pippinjg Thank you!!

  • @gerardford1116
    @gerardford1116 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video Ali!

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gerardford1116 Thanks for supporting the channel! Truly appreciated!

  • @GrundleStiltSkin
    @GrundleStiltSkin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    hey thanks for doing a review !

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GrundleStiltSkin Thanks for watching!!

  • @astrofromhome
    @astrofromhome 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review Ali! 👍Initially I was also thinking about affording the Juwei17 but I then went a tiny bit more pricy with the UMi17 as I could find even less info about the Juwei17 on the net than for the UMi17. I think the Alt setting knob on the Juwei is much nicer than the EQ5 style knobs on the UMi17.
    Maybe the Juwei17 could make a great mount No. 4 for me. 😄

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@astrofromhome The UMi17 looks great and it was probably the safer option. Mount No.4 for me might be the WD-20, though not anytime soon 🤣💔

  • @davidsimard1522
    @davidsimard1522 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thk you for sharing

  • @JeffCounsil-rp4qv
    @JeffCounsil-rp4qv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have this same mount, but in Blue instead. For the price of a Strain Wave Gear (Harmonic) mount, it can't be beat. Cabling isn't a big deal, if you take the time to make a "harness" that fits everything, and is routed to not snag on anything. The other good thing, is it will help to drive down the costs of other mounts too. 😁

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JeffCounsil-rp4qv thanks for sharing your input!!

  • @StargazerFS128
    @StargazerFS128 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Read your post on SGL, nice to see it in the video, it looks just like the AM5.

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@StargazerFS128 It’s a great mount, you can tell where some of that price reductions went once you have the mount in hand. Thanks it’s not anywhere essential!

  • @xxGmon3yxx
    @xxGmon3yxx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad I waited to pull the trigger on an AM5. This is the way.

  • @haq4016
    @haq4016 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review Ali
    موفق ❤️

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@haq4016 اجمعين ياخوي ما تقصر 🌹

  • @ulismoon
    @ulismoon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ali shows this mount again and again but no review found. Finally, here you are. Many thanks.
    Plus, can I ask how weight your equipment on the JUWEI mount on the video?

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ulismoon Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback! I would say my equipment is around 9kg.

  • @lavers_1
    @lavers_1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thx for the info. Does anyone know if it can do alt-azimuth mode for visual?

  • @AlexN-Astro
    @AlexN-Astro 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome review - I've been looking at these for a cheap second rig I'm putting together. Its only going to be carrying a small refractor or possibly even a camera lens and CMOS camera, so I'd say its good enough. I certainly didn't want to pay for an AM5 for a second rig that won't get used all that often....
    Great channel too by the way...

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AlexN-Astro That’s precisely why I bought mine. I couldn’t believe that a mount half the price of the AM5 and even cheaper than the AM3 with comparable specs to the AM5 would deliver like it did. I was going to be happy with less than average performance that is good enough for wider setups but it exceeded my expectations!
      Thanks for the feedback on the channel!!

    • @Azazel840
      @Azazel840 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Juwei now have developing a use 14 motor version, you can think it. is same with am3 details , ah hey bro next time maybe you can ask the manufacturer, because I get it is eng version

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Azazel840 Maybe If he can send me the firmware I can flash it using Arduino??

  • @marvinwhisman3333
    @marvinwhisman3333 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really nice video. You are really getting good at this. Thanks for talking just a little slower :)f. Looking forward to more of them. Do you have any idea how to get service on the mount?

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@marvinwhisman3333 Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. You can always contact the seller if you need help on issues with the mount, unfortunately it being shipped from china may present logistical issues

  • @uvb7675
    @uvb7675 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for your review! I would like to use it with a TC40 Tripod. Wich adapter I need? What do you mean with the TC40 adapter plate? Thank you for your help!

  • @Lord_Whiteley
    @Lord_Whiteley 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video ! It’s an outrage that you don’t have more followers :) BTW Have you had any updates on the Touptek Astrostation? I’m tempted (currently all my gear is ZWO but I’m fed up waiting for their camera rotator to go on sale) as it looks a lot more flexible in terms of equipment?? It might even control the DIY Cheapodc dew heaters shown on the Stellamate website :)

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lord_Whiteley Thank for the feedback and I’m glad you are enjoying the content! The Touptek team are iterating fast with a new update every week! It is still not a complete app nor is it as advanced as the ASIair yet but surely it must be close to an official release. It doesn’t have a rotator control module either, not yet at least.

  • @harynjk
    @harynjk 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like it, i mean the review, it is kept short, yet still has all the information i want to know about a mount! Do you know the UMi mounts from Proxisky/Meow Astro? Those are in the similar price range, maybe slightly more expensive. I have their first mount, the UMi17, it is great, i got 0.4-0.5 guiding with the 250PDS (with counterweight), usually similar or batter with the 150 Quattro without counterweight.

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@harynjk Thanks for the positive feedback on the video, It means a great deal!
      Sure, I was debating getting one of those too!! The harmonic revolution is here to stay it seems and the more competitive the market becomes the better for us!!
      CS!

  • @Bakrybaso94
    @Bakrybaso94 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    👏🏻👏🏻

  • @dumpydalekobservatory
    @dumpydalekobservatory 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks good for the price shame about the poor connection to the motor so QC seems to be a bit hit & miss but still an easy fix.

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dumpydalekobservatory Indeed, to give them the benefit of the doubt, I attributed it to a rough journey from china to me.

  • @sjpp71
    @sjpp71 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting. Thanks for this video. I'm not in the market for a new mount, I have an Eq6r-pro which I'm happy with, but as someone who sets up and breaks down every night, I could use a lighter mount. I'm still in the "wait and see" phase, there are so many strain wave mounts currently, I want to see how they perform in the medium term. Are they durable? any parts that suffer wear and tear? The zwo am5 has been around for a couple of years and so far no horror stories that I have known of, people seem to love it. Hopefully it will be the same with this newer mounts? We'll see. Thanks so much for the info, clear skies!

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sjpp71 You want my advice? Don’t sell your Eq6r-pro. I am all for the harmonic revolution out there but the EQ6 was and still is the best mount I’ve owned, I regret selling it. It is future proof! The am5’s stated payload may be the same with a CW but that’s only at 20cm from the axis of rotation. It would never handle a larger SCT like the eq6 would!

  • @JoseNavarroCo
    @JoseNavarroCo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Due to the high cost, there has been so much gatekeeping with astrophotography. Hopefully, this will begin to force companies to lower their prices.

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JoseNavarroCo I very much hope so!

  • @astro_maa1693
    @astro_maa1693 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    تحياتي للمحتوى الراقي

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      هلا بو جسوم 👋🏻🌹

  • @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q
    @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, first thank you for your test ! I'm very interrested by this mount because i need to upgrade my setup (eq3.2 + onstep for motorisation). I realy hesitate between an HEQ5 Pro v2 with Rowan kit and this harmonic mount. The prices for both are about the sames for me (in France... so sorry if my english is not good ;-) and I don't know what are the pro and cons for each mount. So can you give me your opinion please ?

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q what is your imaging set up??

    • @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q
      @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AstraPharmaq8 Newton 150 750 with Player One Ares C pro ( imx533)

    • @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q
      @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@AstraPharmaq8 Hi, I've a Skywatcher 150-750 telescope with a PlayerOne ARES-C Pro (imx533) and an SVBony SV105 with 120mm lens for guiding. Thank you

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q I think you should go for a harmonic mount 👍🏻

    • @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q
      @LoïcTHIBAULT-n4q 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AstraPharmaq8 Ok Thank you !

  • @Pay_attention_Benny
    @Pay_attention_Benny 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    U shouldnt have to fix it, send it back

  • @sharonsharonsharon1
    @sharonsharonsharon1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will it sit on a Heq5 Pro tripod?

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sharonsharonsharon1 Yep, with the pier extension I mentioned in the video it would. There is also a simple adapter sold on AliExpress for it!

    • @sharonsharonsharon1
      @sharonsharonsharon1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AstraPharmaq8 I prefer not to have the pier as it limits my view from the balcony. What adapter should I search for? Thanks a lot!

    • @JeffCounsil-rp4qv
      @JeffCounsil-rp4qv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sharonsharonsharon1 I made a 60mm diameter "puck" and attached it to the bottom of the Juwei-17 mount. It (the puck) has a center threaded hole so the center rod of the AVX tripod threads into it, and holds the mount quite nicely. The "puck" to fit the Skywatcher tripod should be the same 60mm diameter. The AVX center rod is M10, not sure what the SW threads are on the rod. With the puck and center rod holding the mount on, the 2 outboard AZ bolts aren't really necessary.

  • @rvoykin
    @rvoykin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The wedge looks sketchy. You can tell it’s not as nice overall as the mainstream options

    • @AstraPharmaq8
      @AstraPharmaq8  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rvoykin You can definitely tell where they chose to compromise to reduce the price.

    • @JeffCounsil-rp4qv
      @JeffCounsil-rp4qv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The wedge is quite nice actually. It is more than adequate for the total payload capacity. The ALT adjusting mechanism is nicer than many other mounts having actual bearings. I had mine fully apart to properly measure for, and make adapters for mounting it to two different tripods without a pier extension. That was so the AZ "peg" would align properly with the AZ adjusting bolts I relocated. I had to drill and thread the holes and couldn't accurately do it without disassembling the wedge. Then I made 2 pier extensions, one short, and one long which will fit the AVX tripod. Plus I made an adapter for my Meade LX-80 tripod with "fine" leveling adjusters on the tripod legs. They are blue so I got the Juwei-17 in blue. 😁

  • @Cheapass-tro
    @Cheapass-tro 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good find and good review! Now I just need a grand.

  • @Cheapass-tro
    @Cheapass-tro 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So this has an in-built OnStep controller? I use OnStep for my EQ-5. Would I need my current controller alongside this or is it straight to PC via ASCOM?

    • @JeffCounsil-rp4qv
      @JeffCounsil-rp4qv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The board is a complete OnStep controller board. It is a clone of the miniESP3 board, which is very similar to the maxESP3 pinmap. It uses a rtc module ds3231, it runs the web server and wifi through the esp8266, and onstep and Bluetooth on the esp32.
      All you need to do as AstraPharma says, is connect with either the USB, or with BT or WiFi. The ASCOM driver is available to download. The range of the wireless isn't very far though. Being enclosed by the aluminum mount body cuts down on the signal strength. There is a "passive" antenna on the inside of the black power panel though, but it only helps so much. Be aware mine came with tracking enabled upon power up. You need to reflash the firmware to turn it off, which is pretty easy. You want it off in case you aren't paying attention to the imaging equipment, and there is a power interruption. When power comes back on, the mount will keep on tracking until your scope hits something.

    • @Cheapass-tro
      @Cheapass-tro 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JeffCounsil-rp4qv Perfect, thanks for the detailed reply.