Last Ninja 2 Longplay (Amiga) [50 FPS]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2013
- Developed by Consult Software and published by System 3 in 1990.
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First, let's deal with the elephant in the room; the Amiga version of Last Ninja 2 is a bit of a train-wreck, make no mistake.
It runs and plays very poorly indeed. The game runs at a snail's pace, especially if there is an enemy on screen. It looks like Armakuni is going for a nice little jog rather than being a deadly ninja on a mission.
The sluggishness impacts on the controls, often resulting in you attempting to pick things up when you want to jump and vice versa. To make matters worse, you automatically sheathe your weapons whenever you perform the pick-up animation, so you have to reselect a weapon every single time this happens; it get's annoying very quickly.
There are other strange bugs, such as the fact enemies on other screens will be lying on the floor, recovering health even though you haven't even attacked them; I think if you defeat an enemy on another screen then the game gets confused and transposes the health of the defeated enemy to whatever is on the screen at the time.
I'm not sure why, but it seems that most of the enemies are wearing boiler suits and have straggly mullet hair-dos. Some of the combat moves are hilariously bad too, with weapons just twitching left and right in their hands without the character actually moving.
The graphics are more detailed and the music, by Mike Clarke, isn't bad, but they just don't make the game enjoyable like the C64 version.
I didn't like it back then and I don't like it now. If you owned this tosh (as I did) then I feel for you.
Enjoy!
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Agree 100% - the C64 version is vastly superior.
hi ai82 i have sub your youtube channel. can you make more video longplay from amiga games, c64 games, atari st games. do you have videos from last ninja remix (atari st), last ninja 2 (atari st), last ninja 3 ( atari st)
Haha :) I think people like yourself are seeing the c64 version as probably one of the best graphically created games ever for the system and yes it is very good but you let that over run the simple fact that it is Not as good as the amiga version.
The Amiga version is not so good. The C 64 version has much better music and better grafic. The C 64 is the real version.
Amiga version is a direct port from Atari st hence the result.
...Sorry what??...better graphics?? Your sight is not so good I guess
@@krislambert6625 The Amiga port is considered bad. Not only with many users, also in the professional world.
@@paulnick826 but if you have eyes and ears..and you are not completely dumb and stupid...then you know the amiga version is better .....i hope you are not dumb and stupid,if your reply still is telling me that the c64 version is better then you are and i will not reply :)
@@krislambert6625 I'm serious about that and I stand by it.
In 1988 I was 9 years old and I loved this game which I considered the best of the old c64.. Even better than 3. I played the Amiga version (which unfortunately I never had) on the emulator and found it very good for graphics and sound but bad for slowness, collision with sprites and animations. Such a pity
The game looks the same as the ST version. Even though I like the graphics, I'm baffled by the art style, as it's cartoon-like and incongruous with the gritty nature of the game. The C64 had much more fitting graphics and more atmosphere. The screechy samples also spoil the mood of this version.
If all ninjas are as slow as he is, there's no wonder he's the last
The Amiga version was a cheap port of the Atari ST version. Basically paid a young programmer to get it out as simply and quickly as possible. It could have been vastly superior than the C64 but, they wouldn't pay for any optimisation. I think most of the music is made from samples of the C64 music.
No, actually it is not made of samples from C64. The C 64 was not using samples but the SID Chip. These sounds were coming from third party soundboards.
@Kurt Pedersen The Amiga was vastly superior in every way especially graphically. It was essentially the Photoshop of its day. My sources? I own several Amigas so I know what they can do, as well as magazines which has interviews with several people who created the series and I've been a regular visitor to a Last Ninja site which has its own exclusive interviews with people who worked on various aspects of the Last Ninja games including people who created the ports.
The graphics were actually from the PC version of the game, but were designed for byte per pixel format of PC, so the challenge was getting code to run quickly enough.
"I think most of the music is made from samples of the C64 music." Holy crap, you do realize that if you took 5mins on youtube and compared the Amiga and the C64 soundtracks to this game they sound NOTHING alike instrument wise.. where you pulled this bullshit was straight out your ass
@@DanafoxyVixen lol common Dana !!!
I'm playing the c64 version right now and using this video as a comparison.
The c64 game seems much better.
It has far better sound - some of the Amiga music is grating. And somehow the c64 game looks better too.
I played the two side by side back in the day, on the real hardware. I loved this game on C64, and played it through numerous times. Then I upgraded to Amiga 500, and when this game came out for it I obviously had to get it. I was really disappointed. I simply could not believe how bad it was, so I broke out my C64 from the closet and rigged it up next to my Amiga so I could do a real side-by-side comparison. No doubt about it, the C64 version is the way to go.
C64 version pisses all over this. A true masterpiece.
So weird... I played the C64 version, and it was just amazing... I don't even remember trying the Amiga version... and I just love the Amiga...
If you had the graphics of this version but with the animations, music (oh sweet Lord the C64 music!) and speed of the C64 version you'd have a perfect game!
I actually had that in my PC back then... i find this video animation quite slow ..
@Trondyard high 5 brother !!! (Other than the silly office lever you have to pull - took me hours to try work that out).
Actually, it's quite hard to run past opponents on the C64 version - what you're seeing in my videos is a best-case scenario involving lots of save states ;) The Amiga version, on the other hand, is quite easy in allowing you to dodge opponents when playing for real. I agree that actual gameplay was never that great in the LN games; imo it was more about superior production values when compared to the sea of budget games available.
25:10 "OK, I'm done with all those stingy little triggers, let's do it my way - say hello to the brute force method!"
Proof that games are always best on the platforms they were first developed for, even if that platform is less powerful.
To be honest, it looks more like a shifty guy in a balaclava than a ninja ;)
I remembered one of my nightmare of this game is to pickup somthing from the floor 😅
Oh and the mansion music is the best 😃
I never played this game but I just know that all your lives went trying to land on the row boat.
2:32 The Drunk Ninja xD
The control seems really terrible here...
Dang whoever butchered Matt Grays music in this version should burn in hellfire
Tell you what - the music might be poor renditions compared to the C64 version, but that little reprise of a theme from the very first LN level at 33:00 is very cool indeed.
Actually, I think Mike Clarke did a decent job (I think it was one of his first gigs on Amiga). Its got an acid vibe and bite that sets it apart from the SID version.
@@AL82RetrogamingLongplays Definitely more contemporary, I suppose.
Even I can improve the Amiga music for Last Ninja 2. I intend to do as well.
What a kick @ss sound track!
Thank you all for your support 🥰❤️🙏
Where can I get the song that's playing right at the beginning (before the first level starts)? Or does anyone know the title of it?
heechee.net/c64/ninja/music_original.php
Central Park Loading Theme
It's mod.lninjaloader www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Last_Ninja_2_-_Back_with_a_Vengeance
Amazing that the C64 version both looks and sounds better than this!
The worst thing with controls was - I release joy when near to enemy to start attacking, press fire and ninja makes jump on the enemy only to get hit.
Some definite issues with the controls, but I had a lot of fun with this version regardless.
At 02:44 you tried 6 times to pick-up that stick! Holy shit...... :)
It's 2023 and I am surprised nobody has ever tried to remake this trilogy in a modern 2D or 2.5D engine as they were such classic games of their time, of course, they would have to use the original music just done with a more modern twist. If I could program, I would love to have a go, but I'm 55 y/o with extreme memory issues so learning to program for me is not an option.
I remember The only nuisance was the slow gameplay/movement when playing last ninja2.
The fact that you have to wait for it has to draw the screen each time just like in the C64 version is baffling. Everything else [insert massive list] can be put down to a lazy port, bit this just makes no sense.
At the end, you could light all the candles, _then_ open the safe. Then kill Kunitoki with a shuriken. _Much_ easier.
Well, at least that is how I did it on the C64...
One candle should be left, otherwise all will turn off. With "superior" collision level in this game I wouldn't be able to light the last one candle and Kunitoki return from dead. If Kunitoki arise all candles turn off. If Kunitoki is not in center of pentagram, he won't die after all candles has been light on.
Missed several hamberders!!!
Funny how despite better resolution and more colors they could mess up the game for the worse, where even the characters (including the ninja himself) look worse (mostly because of incorrect proportions) than on the C64. The use of a LOT of colors (obviously just for the sake of using them) doesn't help either and actually just distracts, especially that the really important elements, like the pathways and items have less pronounces colors or are just simply gray.
What were they thinking? Sluggish gameplay at it's best. Please avoid the Amiga-version and play the C64-version!
Agreed. The Commodore 64 version is the definitive Last Ninja 2.
Its like they were aware of how crap the controls were by not including the box jumping screen in The Basement level.
I'm so used to the comodore 64 version that the amiga version looks weird
the controls were pure crap.
It was pioneering. Like the first Resident Evil on Psx... have you tried to play it today? It's like driving a tank while you're drunk :) But they were necessary to refine the control for the games we have today (read it with Yoda's voice)
@@giddue Just what i thought. It did not control well but you eventually got used to it. The amiga version was bad tho. Could not stand playing through the first level.
You can pass the river on the end of level 1 without boat - it is even much, much easier.
Oh, how?
@@IntexDigitalSound i always had problem to jump on first boat and then jump off and land safely. The second and last boat was even much much worse. With persistent of the kid who didn't know that boat on small island needs to be pushed with the stick i learned that ninja jumps further if straight directions are chosen instead of diagonal ones. So instead of using left-up to jump in and jump off the boat, just jump from edge using up direction. It is probably some glitch. You need to jump from left side of path, near grass and character will land on right side of path. The trajectory of jump will not be diagonal also.
Anyway the control mechanism of character was horrible in amiga port. The other ports i don't know.
ninja face at the corner is like a clown
LOL, the music. I like the C64 version better. And the ninja in the bottom right looks like he has had too much ninja ganja and is now paranoid. And the art is cute, reminds me of like an 80's cheeseburger wrapper. I never got to play much Amiga, was stuck with the poor mans C64. It's like with the art, they didn't understand the idea of 'detail per x amount of space' and they clutter parts of the screen that distract from the rest of the screen. And the way the Alligator dies is pathetic. The C64 was much more artistic where it ignites like a flammable gas where as on the Amiga it turns into a fossil and there is a little fire spark... And whoever did the Amiga art had no Idea about the difference between Japan and China. The final spirit is supposed to be a Japanese Shogun and yet he is dressed like a Chinese noble and the art is all Chinese themed instead of Japanese. Saying Japanese is Chinese is like saying the US is Canadian or New Zealand is Australia.
Great post! LOL@"the ninja in the bottom right looks like he has had too much ninja ganja and is now paranoid." XD
@@rootykazooty351 lol or the part where he said he looked like a cheeseburger wrapper rofl !
New Zealand is Australia's 7th state, even a politician said that dude.
4:43 hot dog 25 cent ? , 25$ ?
The original version was a brilliant game and had been produced for C64. Later, it seemed graphics were censored for the Amiga version due to political concerns. In Amiga, enemies were not designed like NY police officers anymore. The Evil of the Twin Towers was not a white ninja anymore in the final level. The game character's body shape was chubby, and he ran slowly. Also, his face and mimics were like a stupid guy in the right corner. It seemed some had forced System 3 to humiliate the Commodore version and take revenge on it by producing the Amiga version.
Mítico juego. La banda sonora de las tres partes, es ACOJONANTE....
Was this the first game to feature a meth lab?!
The Amiga had its fair share of piss-poor conversions due to lazy developers - this is definitely one of them. The C64 version puts this to shame.
i found this better on detail of graphics than the C64, why this one is so slow?
It's just down to how the programmers coded it I think. I had this in my A500 and it was just as bad.
I used to run it with Intel 386 , same graphics and a bit faster animations , by the way where did you find the suriken , never found it..thanks
C64 version more better. This version animations awfull.
@XanXenon My first Last Ninja 1-2 experience on C64. The other versions not the same.
c64 beAst
The C64 version is infinitely better.
@Retro Storm Yes opinions run rife, but while you may not take Jims subjective opinion seriously (as no one asked you to anyways) you have to accept the fairly general consensus that this was considered a bad port, and the music less captivating than the C64 version. subjective favorites or preferences run risks of being made, as its a human thing but so what, making them carry's no real weight...
your comment is as useful to these conversation as a soggy biscuit
Horrible version... Amiga500 was supposed to be superior to c64 in graphics, colors and sound... but it was actually not. This is just dreadful
The computer certainly was more powerful. But this port did not take any advantage of it. If the same team that did the C64 version also did the Amiga version, this game would have looked vastly different.
I could not stand watching this for more than 2 minutes. The c64 version owns this one in every aspect. The atmosphere sucks in particular.
Even the guy bottom right looks like a marketing white collar cosplaying the Ninja.
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How C-64 version can be better then amiga-500 version i will never get it :)))
Strangely the C64 version seems superior in all ways, even graphically.
Shit's so bad it looks fanmade. What a terrible port.
last ninja remix looks so good why look this so trashy, bad.
Amiga can do better, just look at LN1 port.
The Amiga was capable of so much better!lazy effort this one-shame🙈
None of the LN games played as well as they did on the C64. Last Ninja Remix (basically the original game ported to Amiga) was probably the closest, but I still prefer the C64 versions 🙂
Cool games. Amiga must be the best version.
An utter disgrace.
This game shouldn't be released in this state. The controls are crap. The collision with objects is bigger crap - You can't quite often do an action or grab item even if You stand on it. The ninja stucks many times - on grass, on other enemy, on other objects even if on the first look he shouldn't. Sometimes it is hard to hit enemy with weapon even if it seems to be 100% shot. I wouldn't been able to hit enemy with shurikens on straight diagonal line.
There is no much You can do to avoid being hit - sometimes it is just a fluke - an enemy stands in a position You can hit him, but he only misses.
Even with map, many objects are not flashing.
I have seen a part of C64 walkthrough and I can't say that C64 is so much better at above aspects. But it was only short fragment so I can be wrong here.
Made a progress... You only need to kill only few enemies and the last one. The rest you can avoid.
And all enemies have a blind spot - if You take a proper position they will only be walking forth and back, and not attacking. They can be attacked though. But the life can be lost trying to get this position.
poor amiga programming...unfortunately
eww, ugly looking and sounding version... Amiga was never quite as good as the old C64
Amiga has great games too that made history of videogames... but this saga (and every System 3 game) truly exists only on C64
I agree, "decent" is the right word... but System 3 used to create excellent games! I think ninja remix on Amiga is the best one among the two you've listed
@Ronaldo Agudelo Myth looked great. Did not have the legendary title tune. Was a good game on the amiga. But the C64 version was better. And why change the main character ? The game was released as Conan on the nes as far as i remember (ankalagan on the amiga version)
Lol! That's so silly!
learn to play and don't embarrass yourself
C64 version is better. Sorry, amiga version sucks.