Liv Rove E+ Review - $2.8k
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- The Liv Rove E+ is a hardtail cross country hybrid with women-specific saddle and grips. Approachable mid-step frame, four sizes, one color: satin light green. It's the most affordable electric bike model from Liv, is sold through dealers, and comes with a two-year warranty plus lifetime frame. Efficient and quiet SyncDrive motor is a collaboration between Giant and Yamaha. It offers up to 50 newton meters of torque and measures wheel speed, cadence, pedal torque, acceleration, and slop to deliver smooth natural operation. Optional smartphone app for tuning. Great battery placement with ability to charge on or off the frame. Fast 3 Amp charger is compact and light weight. SR Suntour 63mm travel suspension fork with basic preload adjustment, tubeless-ready gravel tires with a wide range of PSI options. Smooth hydraulic disc brakes. Minimalist button pad LED display is durable and easy to use, but limited on readouts. Bike does not come with a kickstand, but the dealer might include for free. No lights, fenders, or rear rack stock but plenty of mounting options to add post-purchase. Limited 100 RPM cadence support from motor and no shift detection.
0:00 Introduction, similar model from Giant, colors
1:14 Company background, dealer service, pricing
1:36 Weight discussion, suspension fork details
3:21 Optional fenders, rear rack, lights accessories
4:55 Wheelset and tire details 700x45c gravel setup
6:40 Size-matched components, basic steel cage pedals
7:10 Flick bell, trigger shifters, no shift-detection
7:41 Giant SyncDrive Core 250 watt mid-drive motor
8:54 Charge port, locking cylinder, battery removal
9:53 Battery charger details, no kickstand included
10:46 Women's saddle and grips, hydraulic disc brakes
12:07 Powering on the bike, display panel operation
14:14 Optional Giant RideControl smartphone app
15:17 Ride test begins, on-frame shots for noise
18:04 Met a friendly kayak rental club owner
18:46 Conclusion, comparison tools, forums, shops
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Excellent review. thanks.
Thank you Mark! Doing my best... also working on a big website upgrade right now, should be very cool ;D
Thorough, as always! I do get a bit irked, however, when companies like Giant skimp on lights, fenders, kickstands, etc. I think they should really do what car companies do, which is offer package upgrades rather than nickel-and-diming customers to death. That way people who want a bare-bones bike can buy one and customize it, while people who want more features can buy a kitted-out version at a package (and hopefully discounted) price. I think that's smarter marketing than offering every single accessory individually. And FWIW, I do believe that no manufacturers should EVER offer a bike without lights. I believe that should be legally mandated, in fact. Who would buy a car where the headlights/taillights are an add-on accessory?
Hi Tom, thanks for the compliment! Yeah, for the price and considering the brand, I felt like a few important things were missing. I'll be covering some of their more expensive bikes that do include fenders, racks, lights etc. in the future :)
Love your reviews Court, one thing about this bike compared to some of the others is the lack of lights that’s a big thing for me as far as being built in for the extra safety factor although to offset that there really are decent external lights that can be recharged but still it’s nice to have for those that don’t want want the handle bars to look full. The other thing is you mentioned the kickstand doesn’t come included I think at that price I would like to have that stuff on the bike which yeah adds to the price of the bike but still it’s better than being charged separately for that stuff. Love the channel btw!!
Good feedback, thanks for the compliment about the channel too!
I bought this exact bike a month ago. I love it! Thanks for this review.
Sweet! Thanks for chiming in Elis, so glad to hear it's working out well for you :D
Do you think this would work well for a 5’1” rider, if you got the XS size? How do you feel about the weight?
@@readyplayer2 hey! I'm 5'3" and it works well for me. I could have gone with the S, but they only had XS so that's what I got. I use it on the bus, so I have to lift it to put in the rack.. it is a bit heavy. Around 21kg without the battery, but it is manageable.
@@elisdavanzo2854 Thanks for the reply, I appreciate your feedback from your personal experience!
Bonjour. J habite un France . Je voudrais acheter ce vélos. Ete vous toujours content de ce vélos? Merci
Nice bike (though I don’t like that an ebike in this price range has such a basic display) and another thorough and helpful review.
It is nice motor output can be fine-tuned in the app. Not many ebikes let you do that, especially those with big-brand motors.
I second your liking the travel cover to shield the contacts when the battery is removed. I wish my ebike offered one.
The travel cover is pretty neat! Which ebike do you have, is it working well for you?
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I have two.
The one I use most is a Ride1Up LMT’d XR. I added a Suntour suspension searpost, my old Topeak rack and a couple of side mirrors. It’s great for local errands and joyrides. I tow a cargo trailer when I need to haul bulkier or heavier items. Its Class 3 speed is helpful for riding in traffic as bicycling infrastructure is almost nonexistent in my neighborhood. The bottom bracket torque sensor is a bit slow to respond. The 100Nm hub motor is very helpful on the hills on my way home. The entry level air fork is nice, but it is my first, so it’s a big step up from the spring forks I’m used to.
My other one is a Mate City S, a folder with a 36V, 350W hub motor capable of 40Nm of torque. The front spring fork already has a busted spring, I think. The elastomer rear shock is acceptable. I pack this one to ride in parks too far or too unsafe to ride to. I prefer its cadence sensor when my bad knee gets tweaked. Since it is designed primarily for the EU, I find I don’t like to pedal faster than 16mph due to its low gearing, though assist tops out at 20mph. I commuted to be office with it as I could store it under my desk.
Each has a purpose, though I prefer to ride the LMT’d as I can better keep up with traffic and it handles better. However, I am always looking for my next ride. Features I’m looking for: mid-mount motor, internally geared hub, belt drive, ability to switch between torque or cadence driven modes (prefer torque but want to switch to cadence if my knee feels bad). Haven’t found one yet that meets all these, but I’m always open to suggestions. 😁
Hey, great review. I wondered if it is possible to upgrade the forks on this bike to something with more travel and lockout? What would you recommend? (5.2 rider on XS frame - UK based)
Hello ElectricBikesReview i love that your mom is a E-bike rider. Maybe do some bike ride reviews with her lol. Also what bike she was riding?
A few years back, she helped me with a couple of reviews. I live in Vancouver right now, and she is in Colorado. I would have LOVED to review this one with her :D
Looking forward to your reviews on Abbotsford BC ebikes from Alter Ego
Thanks for the request! I'm in Vancouver so it would be fun to visit them someday in Abbotsford :D do you own one?
@@ElectricBikeReview not yet, we purchased BC start up company Shocke bikes (now defunct) 6 years ago and I’m thinking of selling them and buying local. That’s why I enjoy watching your channel. We are hoping to keep cost to
very very goog power i have liv vall e + 500 baterry is very amazing yamaha same watts but much stronger than bossh shimano my has 80nm
Hello Court; another excellent review. I’m in Lancashire UK and have been considering getting an electric bike for the longest time! Would you recommend this bike over a Vanmoof S3?
Did you go for a Liv in the end?
@@SB-uu3uq no! I still deciding: van moof after sales service isn’t great, considering Cube cycle, I’m look at getting a bike by April. There’s also gravel racer bikes with drop handle bars with z range of 60 miles. Gravel meaning they can go off road. I cycle along canals
@@redlightspellsdanger7177 There is one of these on eBay - up your way if you're still in Lancashire
@@SB-uu3uq thank you!
do you have plans to cover the velotric discover 1 e-bike?
I think it's on the list, just juggling some other bikes at the moment. Is it one that you're excited to see :D what do you love about it?
@@ElectricBikeReview for me i really like the modern clean aesthetic and the integrated battery really lends well to that. i think it also has really great value for being under 2k having a 60 mi range, and that it comes with many accessories that other companies would charge extra for
Nice bike, I like the color and I'm a male...I think you mentioned Liv is mostly women specific? I also like the multi purpose/go anywhere platform. Curious, what happened to the dude you use to have help you out on reviews? Keep up the good work!🤙
Hi Matthew! I like the color too, this could totally be unisex. I was mentioning women because I think that's how Liv is marketed, and the saddle might have a slightly different support for ladies vs. guys. It would be cheap and easy to swap out :)
I used to work with Mikey from Blue Monkey Bicycles, and he has his own channel. Brent has Electrified Reviews, Chris Nolte has a channel for his shop called Propel now, and maybe Tyson and some others who helped here and there. Each has had their own path and I've shifted back to doing the reviews all for free and on my own. It's fun to collaborate, but I didn't love charging and it was difficult to train and support them. Thanks for asking!
@@ElectricBikeReview thanks for the response Court. That makes sense, Tyson was the guy I was thinking of. Have a great day 👍
Liv bikes are exactly the same as Giant bikes the sizing is just slightly different. I’m male 5’7” (30” inseam) and I ride Liv (Road Medium/TT small) with Giant I am in between small/medium.
How fast
Geeze what a beauty. Hot chicks will love it! 😉
It is indeed a beautiful bike ;)
No lights? Fail.
Yeah, for the price it would really be nice to have integrated lights. The rest of the bike is great quality and well designed though :)
🤔I just bought this bike for my wife yesterday and it did NOT come with the water bottle mount. She absolutely loves it so far though! I have watched a lot of your reviews and they are very helpful. Thank you!🚵♂️
That was a really great gift! I'm glad to hear that she's enjoying it. Perhaps the bottle mount is an iterative improvement from Giant?! Hope you guys enjoy riding together for years to come :)
Did you pick up the XS model? Does it work well for shorter riders just over 5’?
@@readyplayer2 My wife is just over 5'2" and I got her the small. She also had them trim the seat post down a little so she could lower the seat more and had them install a stem riser so she could have more of a "comfort bike" seating position. According to liv bikes website, the recommended height range for XS is 4'11" - 5'4" and Small is 5'2" - 5'7".
@@mattsarahfuerstenau5860 Thanks so much, the recommended height range figure is especially useful (though of course in-seam length varies, etc. but it's great to have a general guideline). Do you mind my asking why you went with the small vs. the x-small? Was it just what they had in stock, or did it seem to fit better?
@@readyplayer2 It was availability that dictated our purchase. Although I am a believer in erring on the next size up if you're an in-between size. But that is personal preference.