A couple of things to touch on. 1.) The BMS (battery managments system) in a lot of newer ebikes are very good at holding a optimal charge level, along with regulating heat to charge. So "storing" or "keeping" a batteru @100% is neglegible at best.
I think this advice was from the point of view of a casual recreational rider putting their bike away in the garage from November through to April. Not someone who's going to use it again two days later or possibly two weeks later.
All the warnings about batteries pffff, been riding them for 6+ years, 10.000km a year just get a good brand and use the damn thing. It might have less 2 years later depending on how well the BMS handles things maybe 10% more loss. You make it sound like you need to make flight-plan and submit it for approval each time. Just plug it in when you get back, it should auto turn off and remove plug a few hours later. And go and ride is it a issue when i ride more than normal (normal would be 50km a day) maybe (say 100km/day) thats about the only time i worry about the battery. It sounds like people who first own a mobile smart phone in 2007 and got all worried about it.. just use a good brand and you will be fine.
Meh... 50km ( ~30 mi ) is pretty average for an avid cyclist, +100km is a mission though and I imagine it to be a workout routine over a primary mode of transportation to a destination in a timely manner
An e-bike with regenerative breaking could help. Most downhill mountain e-bikers usually recover around 95 to 98% of the power they used going up a hill. Although the power recover rate for relatively flat roads and gravel paths equates to merely a quarter or less of the power you'd get back... so honestly, it's not really worth carrying the extra weight for minimal power returns in the long run. Just means you'll have to use more effort on your part at the start of your travel to your destination and if you're tired or extremely exhausted; you could crank the power assist level to the max setting in order to get back home.
I can never buy anything (relatively expensive) without doing a lot of research. So now I have an excellent theoretical knowledge of the types of e-bike that are available. I know what would be perfect for me, and it doesn't come cheap! What I don't know is what is good enough, and that will take a large number of test rides - if I can even find the e-bikes that I want to try out!
if you store it at 75% the charge time is going to be like 2 hours max so it's no big deal i ride mine every day about 15 miles maybe 20, i just plug it in at night like my cell phone.. just remember to charge it lol
Thanks for the tips. Here’s a tip g for you: how about you wear a bike helmet. Especially when riding higher speed e bikes and filming TH-cam videos when you’re not really paying attention to what’s in front of you
I had a stationary exercise bike before I bought my electric bike. I love my ebike. I will probably keep the stationary bike for the winter. But I haven't used it since I got my ebike. You have some really good points about the battery. I also like that you don't wear a helmet. I will use my helmet when I go on a long trip or congested area. Most of the time it's just a short trip and I make a few stops. I don't want to be putting on and taking my helmet off every time I go into a store or someone's house. Thanks for the video!
I believe helmets should be optional rather than mandatory. But I always wear one because you just have to hit your head off concrete or metal or anything else just once for any reason to end up with a life altering head injury. Or worse. I don't even know I'm wearing it anyway. If I am at the end of my days and I still haven't "needed" a helmet I still won't say that it wasn't worthwhile every time I wore one. It's like insurance. It's a waste of money until you actually need it. And you will never know when that moment will be.
Totally agree about the eBike! I use mine FAR more then I would a traditional bike. I'm not looking at a fat tire ebike so I can ride in the winter. I'd add REI ebikes as well. Mine was $1000 on sale and got very good reviews!
My first ebike taught me a lot about what I do and don't need. It was a 26" "mountain" ebike. I don't need 21 speeds, big wheels with noisy tires, low handlebars and a hardtail. It got too hard to swing a leg over. My new bike has 20" wheels with street tires, full suspension, 7 speeds and its easier and safer to get on and off and has an upright riding position. It also has fenders. And it is very affordable. It's a Vivi FM20 A clone of Lectric, but with full suspension and half the price.
Escapade E-Bikes for the win. No other company is even coming close. No drop shipping bs, quality components, great customer service. Outstanding company and the ebikes are amazing. Escapade Execute is simply a beast. Best E-Bikes hands down
It is true, you should not leave you ebike charging all the time. However You should charge the battery full and leave it charging once-in-a-while over night. EV batteries need to be balanced every so often.
Tony -- You need your seat up about 3 " higher ---- if you knees are subtantially bent at the extension of legs, you are getting much less efficiency. Also Toe clips are good for power on the upstroke.....
My torso is hecka long so it feels uncomfortable for my back to be hunched over when the seat is up too high. I don’t care as much about efficiency since it’s an e-bike and helps me when I struggle. But for sure appreciate the tips!
He could raise both his handlebars and his seat to keep his preferred upright riding position. In fact he probably should be riding a larger frame size overall. Clip-ins are a little extreme for a casual e-bike. You must be from the roadie fraternity?
Those toe clips freak me out. I broke my ankle so I can't have anything at the front of my toe pressing back. When they screwed the bone back together the joints don't like pressure in certain directions.
I just bought a e-bike and it will be my first time riding it. I hope my experience will be awesome too. I bought paselec mountain ebike as my first time ebike. Wish me luck guys.
I would have added: * That it can charge in 4 hs or less, be careful not to choose ones that takes 8 hours * That the battery is of good brand and has security features like termal protection. * That it has mudguards, you need them and bikes without them are usually of bad quality * That it has motor cut off on brake. Many do not and are dangerous * You most probably dont need a mountain bike, most people need a cruiser. * Test many before you buy
"I used to think e-bikes were lazy, like fat people ride them". Yes Antonio, fat people and people with various chronic health conditions and injuries and people who have aged beyond however old you are right now appreciate e-bikes for the enjoyment of riding and for helping to keep us active when we can't manage with a regular bike anymore. That'll be you too someday if you live long enough.
If i use my ebike for 20 km i usually just charge the battery for 2h maximum , its enough , considering the battery lasts for 40 to 55km , the charging speeds are fine (:
have you ridden a belt driven bike/e-bike (instead of the classic chain)? I'm on the fence about whether or not I should buy a belt driven bike as my commuter
I have siezures. My sister recommend this but I am uncertain. Is this a viable from of transportation to get two and from work? lets say if you lived 6 minutes away.
I'm a fat lazy baby boomer weighing in over 350 pounds. I was a kid the last time I rode a push bike but I do fancy one of those e-bikes and have plenty of cash to splash out on one. What would you recommend?
Im 293 lbs and I ride a SMLRO 2000w fat bike. I can get it up to 35mph even with my weight. It has 2 1000w motors, one for front tire one for rear. Cost me 1600, worth every penny.
I'm 325lbs and just purchased a Himiway Cobra Pro at 400lbs capacity. I think all Himiway ebikes are fat tire and have a 400lbs capacity. Rear hub ebikes are usually cheaper, can be tail heavy because of rear motor, less hp/tq compared to mid-drives, and easier to learn the ins/outs of ebiking. Mid-drives can have more hp/tq, feel more balanced, can be more expensive, require more shifting, and have an increased learning curve.
@mrgold3591 Thanks for your comment. With Christmas around the corner, I will no doubt put on a few more pounds. I'm worried about busting a few spokes and the wheel collapsing beneath me as I ride.
lol I know it’s “supposed” to be higher but it feels way more comfortable for me to ride like this because I have a long torso so I don’t like being hunched over, I’d rather just lower the seat
No offense meant, but for anyone with a background in the Electric RC Hobby... a LOT of this info is already known. Even more so if you're transferring from an Avid Cyclist into the e-bike world as well as being a natural tinkerer. Even so, THANKS for sharing your experiences anyway!!!
lol yah, I knew none of this stuff. I didn’t have a background in any of this stuff. What’s things you wished you knew ahead of time being more experienced?
Having an e-bike means: Weight gain. Purchased a big 90Nm motor fat bike. In less than a year, I gained over 40 pounds! Yip. Same eating habits as with the non-motorized bikes. Had to get e-bike for knee/thigh issues. And "That," is whaat e-bikes arereally met for. Not for those that just wanna have fun and are typically too lazy to sweat going uphill.
I wish i knew how BAD customer service is at LECTRIC bike company before i biught one of there bikes. Extremely bad. Stay away from them and there bikes.
Been riding a traditional bike since I was 5,mid sixties now and would never get an E bike,ride every day,at least 30 miles per day. I can see people with health conditions owning one though
lol 😂 I mean the whole purpose of an e-bike is to have electric power lol, you don’t buy an electric power drill just to manually turn the screw in cuz you never charged it
You don’t have to but it would be safer. Typically when I ride I don’t go that fast so it’s not as much of a concern, but if I plan to go fast then I’ll grab a helmet
@@AntonioSansonwe get fined here if you don’t wear one and our e-bikes have to be set at no >25km and can’t ride on footpath or roads where the speed limit is
![E-bikes Rules & Regulations you MUST know…[before you get busted]](/img/n.gif)
A couple of things to touch on.
1.) The BMS (battery managments system) in a lot of newer ebikes are very good at holding a optimal charge level, along with regulating heat to charge. So "storing" or "keeping" a batteru @100% is neglegible at best.
I think this advice was from the point of view of a casual recreational rider putting their bike away in the garage from November through to April.
Not someone who's going to use it again two days later or possibly two weeks later.
Yeah this guy read a paragraph on google and made a video.
All the warnings about batteries pffff, been riding them for 6+ years, 10.000km a year just get a good brand and use the damn thing. It might have less 2 years later depending on how well the BMS handles things maybe 10% more loss. You make it sound like you need to make flight-plan and submit it for approval each time. Just plug it in when you get back, it should auto turn off and remove plug a few hours later. And go and ride is it a issue when i ride more than normal (normal would be 50km a day) maybe (say 100km/day) thats about the only time i worry about the battery. It sounds like people who first own a mobile smart phone in 2007 and got all worried about it.. just use a good brand and you will be fine.
Looks like this battery thing felt like Tesla battery charging system 😜
Meh... 50km ( ~30 mi ) is pretty average for an avid cyclist, +100km is a mission though and I imagine it to be a workout routine over a primary mode of transportation to a destination in a timely manner
This is mostly nonsense. Does not apply to normal around town usage.
Do you have a recommendation for an e bike in the city, I’m in Vienna and want one to commute and maybe gravel
Agreed, there's way too much freak-out about the things - battery life, how many charge cycles, blah, blah, blah.
Hot-swappable batteries that you can keep in a backpack on a ride would be ideal.
Batteries can be heavy to carry even in a backpack
yeah, a spare 625 wh battery for my e-mtb is $1200. A spare just ain’t going to happen.
Ooof that price. If i get one i may need a bacn up battery any way sense it would be my primary mode of transportation.
@@dennistaylor5924why so expensive?. My 52v 1040wh battery was half that price, and it's got Samsung battery cells and all other quality bits.
An e-bike with regenerative breaking could help. Most downhill mountain e-bikers usually recover around 95 to 98% of the power they used going up a hill. Although the power recover rate for relatively flat roads and gravel paths equates to merely a quarter or less of the power you'd get back... so honestly, it's not really worth carrying the extra weight for minimal power returns in the long run.
Just means you'll have to use more effort on your part at the start of your travel to your destination and if you're tired or extremely exhausted; you could crank the power assist level to the max setting in order to get back home.
Pretty solid points. Especially about the proper care for batteries.
Glad it was helpful 🤠
If you are ever to disregard any advice on TH-cam, his battery management advice is highly recommended to ignore.
I can never buy anything (relatively expensive) without doing a lot of research. So now I have an excellent theoretical knowledge of the types of e-bike that are available. I know what would be perfect for me, and it doesn't come cheap! What I don't know is what is good enough, and that will take a large number of test rides - if I can even find the e-bikes that I want to try out!
if you store it at 75% the charge time is going to be like 2 hours max so it's no big deal
i ride mine every day about 15 miles maybe 20, i just plug it in at night like my cell phone.. just remember to charge it lol
I'm considering getting an e-bike and thanks for such useful tips.
Thanks for the tips. Here’s a tip g for you: how about you wear a bike helmet. Especially when riding higher speed e bikes and filming TH-cam videos when you’re not really paying attention to what’s in front of you
I had a stationary exercise bike before I bought my electric bike. I love my ebike. I will probably keep the stationary bike for the winter. But I haven't used it since I got my ebike. You have some really good points about the battery. I also like that you don't wear a helmet. I will use my helmet when I go on a long trip or congested area. Most of the time it's just a short trip and I make a few stops. I don't want to be putting on and taking my helmet off every time I go into a store or someone's house. Thanks for the video!
I believe helmets should be optional rather than mandatory.
But I always wear one because you just have to hit your head off concrete or metal or anything else just once for any reason to end up with a life altering head injury. Or worse.
I don't even know I'm wearing it anyway.
If I am at the end of my days and I still haven't "needed" a helmet I still won't say that it wasn't worthwhile every time I wore one.
It's like insurance. It's a waste of money until you actually need it. And you will never know when that moment will be.
Totally agree about the eBike! I use mine FAR more then I would a traditional bike. I'm not looking at a fat tire ebike so I can ride in the winter. I'd add REI ebikes as well. Mine was $1000 on sale and got very good reviews!
My first ebike taught me a lot about what I do and don't need. It was a 26" "mountain" ebike. I don't need 21 speeds, big wheels with noisy tires, low handlebars and a hardtail. It got too hard to swing a leg over. My new bike has 20" wheels with street tires, full suspension, 7 speeds and its easier and safer to get on and off and has an upright riding position. It also has fenders.
And it is very affordable. It's a Vivi FM20 A clone of Lectric, but with full suspension and half the price.
Escapade E-Bikes for the win. No other company is even coming close. No drop shipping bs, quality components, great customer service. Outstanding company and the ebikes are amazing. Escapade Execute is simply a beast. Best E-Bikes hands down
Thanks for the insights...looking forward to getting a ebike soon
They are a blastttt 🤠
It is true, you should not leave you ebike charging all the time. However You should charge the battery full and leave it charging once-in-a-while over night. EV batteries need to be balanced every so often.
lol
lol.. I just got that! That is funny! Barry :-)
Great video !!! What brand and model e-bike are you riding in the video?
Tony -- You need your seat up about 3 " higher ---- if you knees are subtantially bent at the extension of legs, you are getting much less efficiency. Also Toe clips are good for power on the upstroke.....
My torso is hecka long so it feels uncomfortable for my back to be hunched over when the seat is up too high.
I don’t care as much about efficiency since it’s an e-bike and helps me when I struggle.
But for sure appreciate the tips!
He could raise both his handlebars and his seat to keep his preferred upright riding position.
In fact he probably should be riding a larger frame size overall.
Clip-ins are a little extreme for a casual e-bike. You must be from the roadie fraternity?
Those toe clips freak me out. I broke my ankle so I can't have anything at the front of my toe pressing back. When they screwed the bone back together the joints don't like pressure in certain directions.
I just bought a e-bike and it will be my first time riding it. I hope my experience will be awesome too. I bought paselec mountain ebike as my first time ebike. Wish me luck guys.
Let me know how it goes! 🤠
Don't know about anyone else but I'd rather the battery exploded when I'm NOT in the house! 😂
They are as likely to explode as laptop batteries if you dont mess with software much.
great ebike tips, didnt know most of them
I would have added:
* That it can charge in 4 hs or less, be careful not to choose ones that takes 8 hours
* That the battery is of good brand and has security features like termal protection.
* That it has mudguards, you need them and bikes without them are usually of bad quality
* That it has motor cut off on brake. Many do not and are dangerous
* You most probably dont need a mountain bike, most people need a cruiser.
* Test many before you buy
"I used to think e-bikes were lazy, like fat people ride them". Yes Antonio, fat people and people with various chronic health conditions and injuries and people who have aged beyond however old you are right now appreciate e-bikes for the enjoyment of riding and for helping to keep us active when we can't manage with a regular bike anymore. That'll be you too someday if you live long enough.
Absolutely 👍🏼 I’m a huge fan of e-bikes especially for that reason.
Well said.
I thought that was a very snobby comment to make too. I’m a super active person but I still think an E-Bike would be cool.
@@mayberryastronomy6335 Agreed!
This guy didn't even read the brochure...
😂
What brochure?
Lol
@@Mark-qv4bnthe one about bikes, when he finds that he might be able to start on the ebike brochure
@@Mark-qv4bnYou got that right Mark!!!
If i use my ebike for 20 km i usually just charge the battery for 2h maximum , its enough , considering the battery lasts for 40 to 55km , the charging speeds are fine (:
this battery stuff applies to a phone too
have you ridden a belt driven bike/e-bike (instead of the classic chain)? I'm on the fence about whether or not I should buy a belt driven bike as my commuter
I have, I enjoy tenways belt drive e-bike actually, I have a full review on their bikes on my channel
I have siezures. My sister recommend this but I am uncertain. Is this a viable from of transportation to get two and from work? lets say if you lived 6 minutes away.
I definitely think so
Battery care is a challenge? You remove it if it can be charge in the bike, charge it over night, and istall it if need be. How is that big deal?
I don’t see a battery on this bike? Where is it?
In the tire
In the thickest pole on the front
I love my lightweight T1 ST!
It’s a pretty sleek bike lol
I'm a fat lazy baby boomer weighing in over 350 pounds. I was a kid the last time I rode a push bike but I do fancy one of those e-bikes and have plenty of cash to splash out on one. What would you recommend?
If you’re larger in size I think a fat tire ebike with a 750w motor would be nice for you. Those bikes are larger and can usually handle more weight
Im 293 lbs and I ride a SMLRO 2000w fat bike. I can get it up to 35mph even with my weight. It has 2 1000w motors, one for front tire one for rear. Cost me 1600, worth every penny.
I'm 325lbs and just purchased a Himiway Cobra Pro at 400lbs capacity. I think all Himiway ebikes are fat tire and have a 400lbs capacity. Rear hub ebikes are usually cheaper, can be tail heavy because of rear motor, less hp/tq compared to mid-drives, and easier to learn the ins/outs of ebiking. Mid-drives can have more hp/tq, feel more balanced, can be more expensive, require more shifting, and have an increased learning curve.
@mrgold3591 Thanks for your comment. With Christmas around the corner, I will no doubt put on a few more pounds. I'm worried about busting a few spokes and the wheel collapsing beneath me as I ride.
You never said what size bike this was you are riding? I am 5’6. What size do i get?
I’m 5’10 and went with the M
You might be best suited for the S but according to their sizing chart you should fit either bike
So I go away in the winter time for 5 months or so, this will be a problem with the maintanance and life of the battery eh ?
No you should be fine still, I usually don’t ride in the winters for 6 months and am fine
@@AntonioSanson Cheers, and thanks that helps !
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Nice bike
The first thing you should have learnt when you got your e-bike is how to set the correct saddle height and position your feet on the pedals 🤦🏻
lol I know it’s “supposed” to be higher but it feels way more comfortable for me to ride like this because I have a long torso so I don’t like being hunched over, I’d rather just lower the seat
Dude, where's your helmet?
"I wish I knew where I could get a good bike helmet," he said ... NEVER.
The first 1:50 min of the video is just common sense with Li-ion batteries ...
No offense meant, but for anyone with a background in the Electric RC Hobby... a LOT of this info is already known. Even more so if you're transferring from an Avid Cyclist into the e-bike world as well as being a natural tinkerer.
Even so, THANKS for sharing your experiences anyway!!!
lol yah, I knew none of this stuff. I didn’t have a background in any of this stuff.
What’s things you wished you knew ahead of time being more experienced?
Which one is he riding
T1ST
If you have a good bike, the battery will stop charging automatically
Never store it inside your house!
Broooo the first minute 1:30 is absolutely bullshit 😂😂😂😂 what kind of non sense you on bro???
52 sec and I'm thinking wtf is this guy talking about
lol dang 🥲
Having an e-bike means: Weight gain. Purchased a big 90Nm motor fat bike. In less than a year, I gained over 40 pounds! Yip. Same eating habits as with the non-motorized bikes. Had to get e-bike for knee/thigh issues. And "That," is whaat e-bikes arereally met for. Not for those that just wanna have fun and are typically too lazy to sweat going uphill.
I wish i knew how BAD customer service is at LECTRIC bike company before i biught one of there bikes. Extremely bad. Stay away from them and there bikes.
That's funny because everyone except you says their customer service is excellent
Been riding a traditional bike since I was 5,mid sixties now and would never get an E bike,ride every day,at least 30 miles per day. I can see people with health conditions owning one though
🤓" You need to plan ahead of time to charge so you can ride"
My brother in christ its still a bike. It has pedals, jesus 🤣
lol 😂
I mean the whole purpose of an e-bike is to have electric power lol, you don’t buy an electric power drill just to manually turn the screw in cuz you never charged it
Off topic don’t you have to wear a helmet?
You don’t have to but it would be safer.
Typically when I ride I don’t go that fast so it’s not as much of a concern, but if I plan to go fast then I’ll grab a helmet
@@AntonioSansonwe get fined here if you don’t wear one and our e-bikes have to be set at no >25km and can’t ride on footpath or roads where the speed limit is
My building in Manhattan doesn’t allow e bikes or scooters…
Bro doesnt realize how smart charging will stop charging automatically
😂 you call that a e-bike
Yep lol
Perhaps you want an e-motorbike?