Picked this up for my wife today, she won't be doing any serious off road riding, but this bike allows her to do that while being real comfy on the pavement too. Awesome bike!
Just hired a e MTB today and went for a good ride with my daughter, I am an amputee above the knee and the bike made me feel normal,was great to be able to put it in turbo mode on the ride back as there was a head wind to contend with👍
I must say that I love this bike. There is almost no terrain I've not been on and it performs wonderfully. Id like to know what dropper you put in and what upgrade to the drive change did you choose. Thanks
Thank you so much for your review! I just purchased this exact bike and due to the cold and ice here in sunny New Jersey, I've not had a chance to test it. I was a little concerned about it's smaller motor but your input has me convinced this will do nicely. I ordered a Box Three Prime 9 W-Wide groupset and should have that swapped out within a week. It was in stock at Box Components and priced right...$209. Given the 50 tooth cog, I expect I will be able to tackle the steeper stuff without too much trouble! Thanks again and be safe and happy biking!
Common issue with this bike, is you suddenly hear a rattle coming from the upper battery area. Take the battery off and wiggle the retaining bolt/latch that locks the battery in place. Check to see if there is movement where the key is inserted. If there is, it means the locking mechanism is coming loose and needs tightened up. On my bike I used a T-15 torx bit to loosen the four screws holding the plastic panel in which surrounds the locking latch. Once the screws are removed, there is a slot at the bottom of the plastic panel. Insert a flat screwdriver into this slot and lever upwards and out to release the plastic panel. Put a bit of tape over the screwdriver head to avoid scratching the paint. Once the plastic panel is removed, you should see two screws holding the lock mechanism in place. Tighten these screws using a small star screwdriver to tighten up the lock mechanism. Replace the pladtic panel again and screw back in place. Happy rattle free biking again.
Great review from the other side of the pond. Here in the UK, this bike is sold as the Giant Fathom E+3 29er Pro and I’ve had mine since 2019. Unlike you the first thing I upgraded was the front Suntour spring suspension entry forks (to semi pro air Rock Shox Judy TK Silver) and the brakes and rotors (to Guide R four potters). Then came the dropper post and a new saddle (Selle SMP TRK). Currently my bike is at my LBS having the drivetrain sorted to a 10speed 11-42 XT from the stock 9 speed. I have to agree with you that this is a great bike to upgrade when funds allow. I must have a look at upgrading the stem and handlebars though but these will have to wait.
I agree that this is a great value on/off road ebike. I bought mine in the middle of August and have almost 1400 miles on it. Immediately I installed a dropper post and upgraded the grips, bars, seat, and pedals. Week 3 of ownership I installed a Manitou Machete, wow, nice fork, best I've ridden. Next I'll upgrade the drive train, as I do want one lower gear than stock ... I can only get up steep stuff out of the saddle with stock gearing.
Here is Shropshire the original drivetrain that came with my bike proved to be it’s weakest link and it was the clutchless rear deraileur that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I upgraded to a clutched 10 speed XT rear end and I couldn’t be happier.
This bike is more suited to trails than commuting. The 2.4 wide tyres will slow you down a bit, and keeping up the cadence in the higher gears to have the motor assistance for a long time will be tiresome I would think. If it’s a city commute it should be fine, but if it’s flat roads for a few miles, I would try before you buy.
Hello, I for example upgraded in my Talon e+2 derailleurs for 11-46 Shimano Deore (now I can easly reach each difficult steepy hill)and changed fork for Suntour Raidon -Air. Now Talon not only looks more agressive so it is more agressive and better adjusted to difficult mountain paths,
Hi, hoping you can answer a question I have regarding wattage figures within the Giant app. The bike is sold as the Fathom E+3 29 with the Syncdrive Sport motor in the UK. I use the Giant app to record my rides as its a few years since I rode a bike, and wanted to compare recordings to view any improvement in my fitness. Most rides consist of tarmac trails, some off road woodland stuff and main roads to get to my ‘fun areas’. There are a few steep hills and when checking back the app after my rides, I noticed in the ‘Power’ section, that my maximum wattage figures were around 300-320 per ride. I’m getting up to around 20-25 mph on some flat road sections, but it’s a heavy bike and I cannot keep that speed up for long as the motor cuts out at 15 mph. On my last ride I really went for it on a long flat road to see how fast I could go. I managed to get into 9th gear, but when I checked the wattage figures for that section of road, it showed 538 watts ! Surely this must be wrong ? The motor is supposed to cut out at 15 mph ! It was a standing start in power level 4 and really hammered it up the gears while my legs were just a blur. Surely that wattage figure must be wrong ? Hope you can shed some light on my warp like figures. Cheers.
So I just bought a Talon e and really like the bike. I took it to a local Giant dealer and asked if they could install NX. They said it was impossible! Did you have to change wheel sets of front chain ring?
......Great vid, thanks!!! I bought one, and I love it! ...............How did you route that internal dropper cable? I found one guy on youtube remove the motor and route the cable under it. Your installation was edited, but I see you fiddling the cable housing with the motor in place. Did you not remove the motor? Did you route the cable above the motor?
Trust me on this, it’s better to route the cable under the motor. I learned the hard way when my LBS choose the alternative easier route forcing the cable to do a 45 degree turn into the upright which ended up crimping the cable. Now my dropper works as smooth as silk!
Just purchased this bike. Lousy winter weather here has prevented riding but spring here soon. Was going to install dropper post. Do you have to remove motor to route cable... is the install fairly easy??
@@RockMumbles had a dropper installed at a Giant shop. Can’t easily lift the seat to a higher ride position as the cable seems to catch and activate the dropper. They told me it’s because the internal cable route is compact and cable binds. Did you have any such issue?? Was gonna take it apart and try to fix myself.
What these heavy hardtails desperately need, when equipped with coil forks, is an upgraded "gold valve" inserts(that you find on motorcycles that have non-adjustable coil forks). They allow fork oil to be used in conjunction with a higher spring rate for a shock/spring design (needed for often double the bike weight, plus a typical consumer of this bike that is also heavier). Or an upgrade to a serious Fox type fork. It would give proper motorbike handling, a night & day difference. But the price point fork is the design weakness of this type of E-bike.
What dropper post did you use? i went to get my Giant Talon fitted for one and they weren't even sure if it would take a dropper post. Did you use a internal wire routing?
I’d really appreciate if you could get back with me on the exact parts used for the 12spd cassette swap so I can order the same setup! If you can get back with me that would be awesome! Thank you!! I have the same bike and doing the same upgrades
@@TheMTBGarage I would like to upgrade the fork too with a RockShox Recon, but I can only get the one with 51mm offset - whereas the bike has a 46mm offset fork from factory. Would that may make handling a bit more nervous because of the redutction of trail? Any advice / experience with this bike?
Here in Shropshire, UK the Suntour Spring forks that came with my bike were a joke and would even bottom out at a simple pothole. I upgraded them to Rockshox Judy TK Silver and never looked back!
Why the reluctance in answering Stefan’s Bellan’s question about the specific components you actually used in the upgrade of this bike. I’m especially keen to know what handlebar and stem you employed to the cockpit of the bike for better handling.
The battery range is 175 kms ? I want to be able to ride for like 5 hours on trails and mountains but don't want to have to bring a second battery . My MTB e-bike I have now has a range of 70 kms but going uphill all the time it's like 20 km range .
Most will do roughly 20-30miles of max range out on trails on the dirt. The max ETA range is based on smooth roads with no hills at LOW level power settings. Mainly the rider is powering more then the bike itself. So when you're on High power and ripping up the off-road that range normally goes down 80-90%. Never expect any so called pre-built E-bike to do over 50miles off-road on high power with mainly the motor working most of the time.
@@marlborored1789 move the speed sensor and magnet from the wheel spokes to the back of the pedal. As the sensor reads fewer rotations, the bike's ECU reads a lower speed so the electric assistance effectively never shuts off
Does anyone know if the rims and tires are tubeless ready or compatible? Giant’s website description lists tubeless tires and a tubeless system but in the specifications, it lists the tires as wire need. The dealer didn’t know and Giant’s website does have a phone number or contact form. Cheers!
Wondering if you could help or give me a bit of advice. I have a 2021 giant Talon E Bike, and everything works great until I go off road. Every time I go off road and I am going downhill, and I hit a small bump my chain come off at the front all the time. Its fine going uphill and on flat, only happens downhill when I hit a bump, even when I stand up and let bike go downhill, I hit a small bump and the chain comes off
I did following upgrade to this Talon 2 - changed fork on Suntour Raidon 29", 100mm, tapered, boost 15X110, - but I had to also changed front wheel, I changed as well derailleur for Shimano Deore RD-M6000 Shadow and Casette CS-M4100 DEORE 11-46, 10 gears and chain, total cost approx. 500 USD,
Thanks for the question! Here is the parts list: Renthal Aluminum bars 800 mm wide, 40mm rise DMR Defy 50 stem Sram NX drivetrain - XX1 copper chain KS Lev Integra dropper post Ergon SM pro saddle
@@TheMTBGarage The worse thing about the Giant (stock) is the crappy Suntour forks and the 400wh battery. Trust me, you don’t want to run out of juice with this beast.
My idea of a Great E bike is NOT one where i immediately start getting new parts to make it "better" . Get a bike with the stuff you want at a better price! That's just me
The whole POINT of a budget ebike is to allow people to get into emtb just like he SAID. Most people will prob upgrade over time. Much betterto get a bike at $2,500, ride NOW and upgrade later, than to not have a bike at all because you’re saving up another $2,000 to buy a bike with better components. You gotta remember most people don’t have $5,000+ to spend on a BIKE
This is what most people in the weird world of mountain biking know as a 'Bike Shop bike' Vs the other kind of bikes people commonly refer to as 'Department store bikes' like say the Hyper E-ride. In this topic the Bike-Shop bike here is a rather cheap version of a Bike shop bike for a E-bike. Plus a Mid-drive for that fact. So in it's sense of the term for Bike-Shop-Bike budget version E-bike. Yes. As most standard bike-shop-bikes go for anywhere around 1000+ for standard non-e-bike versions. Since version without it's E-bike ability would be the cheapest at 500 but with old style V-brakes and likely higher with Discs.
compared to the other leading bikes with 'Mid' drive systems. You're looking at a 'Cheap' ability unless you snag a Hyper E-Ride from walmart. Most mid-drive bike-shop bikes will be around 4000-5000$ for good systems. So this is 'Cheap' from a bike-shop-bike system. Compared to what you'd find from other stuff.
Picked this up for my wife today, she won't be doing any serious off road riding, but this bike allows her to do that while being real comfy on the pavement too. Awesome bike!
How is the motor, noise-wise? Is there a noticeable whine or whirring when riding on pavement? Thanks
Just hired a e MTB today and went for a good ride with my daughter, I am an amputee above the knee and the bike made me feel normal,was great to be able to put it in turbo mode on the ride back as there was a head wind to contend with👍
I must say that I love this bike. There is almost no terrain I've not been on and it performs wonderfully. Id like to know what dropper you put in and what upgrade to the drive change did you choose. Thanks
In 2021, peace was achieved between eMTB and MTB riders. It was a beautiful thing to see.
Thank you so much for your review! I just purchased this exact bike and due to the cold and ice here in sunny New Jersey, I've not had a chance to test it. I was a little concerned about it's smaller motor but your input has me convinced this will do nicely. I ordered a Box Three Prime 9 W-Wide groupset and should have that swapped out within a week. It was in stock at Box Components and priced right...$209. Given the 50 tooth cog, I expect I will be able to tackle the steeper stuff without too much trouble! Thanks again and be safe and happy biking!
Common issue with this bike, is you suddenly hear a rattle coming from the upper battery area. Take the battery off and wiggle the retaining bolt/latch that locks the battery in place. Check to see if there is movement where the key is inserted. If there is, it means the locking mechanism is coming loose and needs tightened up. On my bike I used a T-15 torx bit to loosen the four screws holding the plastic panel in which surrounds the locking latch. Once the screws are removed, there is a slot at the bottom of the plastic panel. Insert a flat screwdriver into this slot and lever upwards and out to release the plastic panel. Put a bit of tape over the screwdriver head to avoid scratching the paint. Once the plastic panel is removed, you should see two screws holding the lock mechanism in place. Tighten these screws using a small star screwdriver to tighten up the lock mechanism. Replace the pladtic panel again and screw back in place. Happy rattle free biking again.
Acoustic and electric bikes...good one, Sean.
dude, such a nice little review.... doing mods like this is EXACTLY what I want to do!
Great presentation thanks. I think a suspension seat post would be a great add on.
i love my Talon E+ 2! I changed the pedals....and installed a Rockshox Recon Air Fork! And i Love this bike so much!
Great review from the other side of the pond. Here in the UK, this bike is sold as the Giant Fathom E+3 29er Pro and I’ve had mine since 2019. Unlike you the first thing I upgraded was the front Suntour spring suspension entry forks (to semi pro air Rock Shox Judy TK Silver) and the brakes and rotors (to Guide R four potters). Then came the dropper post and a new saddle (Selle SMP TRK). Currently my bike is at my LBS having the drivetrain sorted to a 10speed 11-42 XT from the stock 9 speed. I have to agree with you that this is a great bike to upgrade when funds allow. I must have a look at upgrading the stem and handlebars though but these will have to wait.
I have the giant fathom e+3 29er.
I agree that this is a great value on/off road ebike. I bought mine in the middle of August and have almost 1400 miles on it.
Immediately I installed a dropper post and upgraded the grips, bars, seat, and pedals.
Week 3 of ownership I installed a Manitou Machete, wow, nice fork, best I've ridden.
Next I'll upgrade the drive train, as I do want one lower gear than stock ... I can only get up steep stuff out of the saddle with stock gearing.
Hi guys, can someone make a list here of forks compatible with GIANT TALON E + 29 2 (2021) Thank you very much
@@strimbit I have a 100mm Manitou Machete Comp 29" 9mm QR
The dropper post install!
I've got one of these and just bought a dropper. I'm dreading fitting it. Any tips?? Cheers
Thanks for the review! Just bought it can't wait to try it out :D
The drivetrain on this bike is actually fantastic. I've yet to find a hill I can't get up and I am not fit!
How many gears on the drivetrain it’s self 10 ?
@@jrlinnell2494 9
Smar
lol
Here is Shropshire the original drivetrain that came with my bike proved to be it’s weakest link and it was the clutchless rear deraileur that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I upgraded to a clutched 10 speed XT rear end and I couldn’t be happier.
Can you do a How-To Install for the dropper post and the drivetrain? My Talon-E is arriving this week and these upgrades are a must. Thanks!!
Take off bash guard, then its 3 bolts on the motor. Theres a video on here, search giant talon e motor removal.
It's easy from there👍
sweet video! and sweet garage door lights! intense
Holy shit. I have never seen a youtuber ride Vista trail before. You're right next door to me.
Great video man!
Underrated channel thanks for the great review 👍
Good Stuff! E-Bikes are so sick!!
I’m contemplating this as my next commuter bicycle.
I’m picking mine up tomorrow - will be mainly used as a commuter
This bike is more suited to trails than commuting. The 2.4 wide tyres will slow you down a bit, and keeping up the cadence in the higher gears to have the motor assistance for a long time will be tiresome I would think. If it’s a city commute it should be fine, but if it’s flat roads for a few miles, I would try before you buy.
Thanks for the review - time to go pick one up!
Very nice review. Thanks!
need to get one, it's beautiful
Great video. Thanks for bringing this bike to my attention. Nice upgrade.
Hi, what components did you use for upgrades? thank you
Hello, I for example upgraded in my Talon e+2 derailleurs for 11-46 Shimano Deore (now I can easly reach each difficult steepy hill)and changed fork for Suntour Raidon -Air. Now Talon not only looks more agressive so it is more agressive and better adjusted to difficult mountain paths,
Great video bud! Thank you.
many thanks for the informative vid
Hi, hoping you can answer a question I have regarding wattage figures within the Giant app. The bike is sold as the Fathom E+3 29 with the Syncdrive Sport motor in the UK. I use the Giant app to record my rides as its a few years since I rode a bike, and wanted to compare recordings to view any improvement in my fitness.
Most rides consist of tarmac trails, some off road woodland stuff and main roads to get to my ‘fun areas’. There are a few steep hills and when checking back the app after my rides, I noticed in the ‘Power’ section, that my maximum wattage figures were around 300-320 per ride. I’m getting up to around 20-25 mph on some flat road sections, but it’s a heavy bike and I cannot keep that speed up for long as the motor cuts out at 15 mph.
On my last ride I really went for it on a long flat road to see how fast I could go. I managed to get into 9th gear, but when I checked the wattage figures for that section of road, it showed 538 watts ! Surely this must be wrong ? The motor is supposed to cut out at 15 mph ! It was a standing start in power level 4 and really hammered it up the gears while my legs were just a blur. Surely that wattage figure must be wrong ? Hope you can shed some light on my warp like figures. Cheers.
Giants site says it has 70nm motor, and at 500wh it's battery is not below average.
So I just bought a Talon e and really like the bike. I took it to a local Giant dealer and asked if they could install NX. They said it was impossible! Did you have to change wheel sets of front chain ring?
Great video! Many thanks for sharing buddy! Stay safe! :-)
Hello, superb video, I have the same mountain bike, to switch to 11 speeds, you have to change the freewheel body?? THANKS 🤔👍🙏
More eMTB content yes 👍
Sweet Upgrade. Would it have been possible to add a bigger pedal crank too?
......Great vid, thanks!!! I bought one, and I love it! ...............How did you route that internal dropper cable? I found one guy on youtube remove the motor and route the cable under it. Your installation was edited, but I see you fiddling the cable housing with the motor in place. Did you not remove the motor? Did you route the cable above the motor?
Trust me on this, it’s better to route the cable under the motor. I learned the hard way when my LBS choose the alternative easier route forcing the cable to do a 45 degree turn into the upright which ended up crimping the cable. Now my dropper works as smooth as silk!
Did you have to change the shifters too when adding more gears?
Did you install the dropper post cable internally?
Just purchased this bike. Lousy winter weather here has prevented riding but spring here soon.
Was going to install dropper post. Do you have to remove motor to route cable... is the install fairly easy??
I dropped the motor down a bit in mine to install the internal dropper ...
@@RockMumbles had a dropper installed at a Giant shop. Can’t easily lift the seat to a higher ride position as the cable seems to catch and activate the dropper.
They told me it’s because the internal cable route is compact and cable binds. Did you have any such issue??
Was gonna take it apart and try to fix myself.
@@robinowens9661 I had that issue on my first dropper install ... try pushing the cable into the frame while raising the post in the frame
Molto utile!! non torno più indietro
I have this bike. 2” riser I added.
Beautiful bike
Can you prepare the rims and convert to tubeless on this bike or do you not recommend them? Thanks.
Pretty lights 🤩
What these heavy hardtails desperately need, when equipped with coil forks, is an upgraded "gold valve" inserts(that you find on motorcycles that have non-adjustable coil forks). They allow fork oil to be used in conjunction with a higher spring rate for a shock/spring design (needed for often double the bike weight, plus a typical consumer of this bike that is also heavier). Or an upgrade to a serious Fox type fork. It would give proper motorbike handling, a night & day difference. But the price point fork is the design weakness of this type of E-bike.
First time I’ve heard of “acoustic bikes” 😂
What dropper post did you use? i went to get my Giant Talon fitted for one and they weren't even sure if it would take a dropper post. Did you use a internal wire routing?
This or Aventon Adventure 🤔 wich one is faster?
Aventon
@@mk.1175 I'm on my second Aventon. Just purchased Aventure 2. My Aventure 1 got stolen in Miami 2 weeks ago. Love the bike!!!!
Hi what were the upgrades you made to the bike please?
Would you be able to share the specs on tje upgraded drivetrain??
Could tell me the cost do do all the drive train upgrades?
I’d really appreciate if you could get back with me on the exact parts used for the 12spd cassette swap so I can order the same setup! If you can get back with me that would be awesome! Thank you!!
I have the same bike and doing the same upgrades
I Love my Talon E+2. I also change the bar and the pedal. Next change is the Fork. She is really bad.
I agree, changing out my fork to a RS Recon pretty soon.
@@TheMTBGarage . The RockShox Rekon was my Idea too.. 👍👍👍
@@TheMTBGarage I would like to upgrade the fork too with a RockShox Recon, but I can only get the one with 51mm offset - whereas the bike has a 46mm offset fork from factory. Would that may make handling a bit more nervous because of the redutction of trail? Any advice / experience with this bike?
Here in Shropshire, UK the Suntour Spring forks that came with my bike were a joke and would even bottom out at a simple pothole. I upgraded them to Rockshox Judy TK Silver and never looked back!
@@johnchristopher5075 how is the steering with the Judy considering the higher offset (51 vs 46 factory)?
Why the reluctance in answering Stefan’s Bellan’s question about the specific components you actually used in the upgrade of this bike. I’m especially keen to know what handlebar and stem you employed to the cockpit of the bike for better handling.
Will this bike perform well in icy snowy weather.
oh yess 👌🏻👌🏻
What is the weight of the bike please as I am unable to find on Google?
What chain did you replace the original one and how many more links in the chain are there
Can i change the crankset to shimano? Like in a regular mtb?
Any recommendations out there for a Class 3 hardtail MTB with 29" wheels?
The battery range is 175 kms ? I want to be able to ride for like 5 hours on trails and mountains but don't want to have to bring a second battery . My MTB e-bike I have now has a range of 70 kms but going uphill all the time it's like 20 km range .
Most will do roughly 20-30miles of max range out on trails on the dirt. The max ETA range is based on smooth roads with no hills at LOW level power settings. Mainly the rider is powering more then the bike itself. So when you're on High power and ripping up the off-road that range normally goes down 80-90%.
Never expect any so called pre-built E-bike to do over 50miles off-road on high power with mainly the motor working most of the time.
what size stem did you get?
Can you please give me the information of the parts that you upgraded to
Curious how that motor compares to Treks Fire Fly 4 Bosch motor...
I love my Talon-E. I didn't love the speed restricton. That's why I changed it! 😂
how
@@marlborored1789 move the speed sensor and magnet from the wheel spokes to the back of the pedal. As the sensor reads fewer rotations, the bike's ECU reads a lower speed so the electric assistance effectively never shuts off
Does anyone know if the rims and tires are tubeless ready or compatible? Giant’s website description lists tubeless tires and a tubeless system but in the specifications, it lists the tires as wire need. The dealer didn’t know and Giant’s website does have a phone number or contact form. Cheers!
Tired are not tubeless yet. You can use the tires on it to convert it to tubeless.
Wondering if you could help or give me a bit of advice.
I have a 2021 giant Talon E Bike, and everything works great until I go off road.
Every time I go off road and I am going downhill, and I hit a small bump my chain come off at the front all the time.
Its fine going uphill and on flat, only happens downhill when I hit a bump, even when I stand up and let bike go downhill, I hit a small bump and the chain comes off
This used to happen to me as well. I had to adjust the chain gard. The screw of the chain gard got loose. Never fell off after this.
Is it hard to pedal when the battery dies???
isnt it the whole point of not upgrading the cassette if having a battery-powered bike?
What is the maximum rider weight that it can take?
How do wider bars and shorter stem help??
do you know what max diam tire size will fit through the rear triangle?
7"
Great bike for the proce
Hi guys, can someone make a list here of forks compatible with GIANT TALON E + 29 2 (2021)?
I did following upgrade to this Talon 2 - changed fork on Suntour Raidon 29", 100mm, tapered, boost 15X110, - but I had to also changed front wheel, I changed as well derailleur for Shimano Deore RD-M6000 Shadow and Casette CS-M4100 DEORE 11-46, 10 gears and chain, total cost approx. 500 USD,
hi, could you put down where ii could buy the drive train & bars from please
Try your local bike shop !
top speed?
HOW LONG TO CHARGE?
Whats the weight of this bike?
Specifications & price?
I misplaced my battery key what do I do
Works great, no issues. Fills and empties easily.
Το τιμόνι το καινούργιο πού έβαλες πόσα χιλιοστά είναι
i have this bike. but mine has no place for water bottle. not sure if mine is 2022 or 21
There should be two standard mounting points between the saddle and the motor..
Y can get a custom talon 1 with over 4x more power and a bigger battery for less
Speed?
Shred🤟🏻
As a review is incomplete(IMHO), I expect at least the weight, autonomy, and time needed for a full charge. Cheers
4 hrs. I got the Giant Talon E+ 29. 2.4 minutes for 1%.
no throttle only?
No
What's the spec of the upgrade parts?
Thanks for the question! Here is the parts list:
Renthal Aluminum bars 800 mm wide, 40mm rise
DMR Defy 50 stem
Sram NX drivetrain - XX1 copper chain
KS Lev Integra dropper post
Ergon SM pro saddle
@@TheMTBGarage Thanks man. It make a huge difference to the bike?
@@TheMTBGarage The worse thing about the Giant (stock) is the crappy Suntour forks and the 400wh battery. Trust me, you don’t want to run out of juice with this beast.
My idea of a Great E bike is NOT one where i immediately start getting new parts to make it "better" . Get a bike with the stuff you want at a better price! That's just me
The whole POINT of a budget ebike is to allow people to get into emtb just like he SAID. Most people will prob upgrade over time. Much betterto get a bike at $2,500, ride NOW and upgrade later, than to not have a bike at all because you’re saving up another $2,000 to buy a bike with better components. You gotta remember most people don’t have $5,000+ to spend on a BIKE
Is this torque or pork
is the dropper post internal? how did you route it?
It is internal and I had to remove the motor unit cover in order to route the cable. Definitely tricky but it can be done.
We are thinking to buy this one for my girlfriend (50kg, 163cm height), do you think 50Nm is enough for climbing hills?
i have 95kg and its pretty enough to „climbing“ hills
She'll fly with it.
The moment when a car is cheaper.
Wake up
@@ABoxIsMyHome The moment when a car is cheaper.
@@NomadFM I’m in your walls
@@ABoxIsMyHome The moment when a car is cheaper.
Budget friedly😂😂😂
I wanted to see what it was until I realized it’s a giant
Budget my asss lmfao at that price you can have a 8000 watt motor 72v battery and have about 1000$ left over to pick out your bicycle
$2600 for 50nm torque 🤷♂️ it's a good looking bike though.
Ciao mi puoi girare Link dei ricambi grazie ottimo video bravo
I wouldn’t call it budget friendly even at $2600.
This is what most people in the weird world of mountain biking know as a 'Bike Shop bike' Vs the other kind of bikes people commonly refer to as 'Department store bikes' like say the Hyper E-ride.
In this topic the Bike-Shop bike here is a rather cheap version of a Bike shop bike for a E-bike. Plus a Mid-drive for that fact.
So in it's sense of the term for Bike-Shop-Bike budget version E-bike. Yes. As most standard bike-shop-bikes go for anywhere around 1000+ for standard non-e-bike versions. Since version without it's E-bike ability would be the cheapest at 500 but with old style V-brakes and likely higher with Discs.
I don't know why they call it Giant, it doesn't look that big to me.
Way to expensive
compared to the other leading bikes with 'Mid' drive systems. You're looking at a 'Cheap' ability unless you snag a Hyper E-Ride from walmart. Most mid-drive bike-shop bikes will be around 4000-5000$ for good systems. So this is 'Cheap' from a bike-shop-bike system. Compared to what you'd find from other stuff.