It's literally impossible not to love Greg. Aside from his amazing playing he's just that guy that you want to hang out with...or even just listen to for his depth of knowledge blended with that wicked sense of humor.
I’ve got a tele with the Gristle tone Tele set, A strat with Single width, a barytone tele with Fluence Classic HB’s… Next up is a tele with these p90’ies :-) I’m a huge fan of these PU’s… Sincerely Perry Stenbäck ( 2x Grammy Winner in Denmark)
Tuned in to listen to Greg play! The sweet honey tones coming out of those Fishman pickups and Gibson guitar are just a nice bonus. Milwaukee's Best...and we ain't talking cheap beer, here!
I was not impressed by the Fluence Strat or humbucker PUPS but they absolutely nailed both the Tele and P-90 with Greg. Not sure I understand the tech fully, but if the coils are neutural and the sound is "modeled" it would be extremely cool to see a set that does tele single coil neck and bridge with one voice and a WRHB with the other--e.g. an all in one Tele Custom/Deluxe or '68/'72 Thinline. It would also be interesting to hear that 3rd P-90 voice in a T-style guitar.....
I'm always looking for options for my Gibson guitars that have a bit of twang to them. All pickups can sound very much the same with varying amounts of overdrive but I want to hear how well a pickup sounds without any overdrive.
That's his signature Reverend. 2nd one. Looks very Fender, but has a set neck, 24.75" scale, ebony fretboard, P90s, and a Bigsby. Seems to me like a nice Gibson LP Special in Fender garments. (His earlier Rev sig is clearly in the Fender lane.)
If the Fishman's are digital then why not put p90 and trad humbucker tones in one pickup? Make one tone a master and the other a rotary switch. I mainly play humbuckers but absolutely love p90s. I have a PRS SE 245 SC I put some $18 (for both) Chinese P90s in that do the thick velvet tone Greg demoed here, incredible! Then I have a set of Phat Cat 90s in a hardtail RG that ring like a bell. P90s got the secret sauce, but oh that infernal noise!
I've got plenty of Gibson p90's and a couple boutique p90's and they all sound freaking AMAZING and I find no noise problems at all with any of them ! I also find that the tuning problems that plague Gibson guitars in the internet are non existent in my collection of Gibson and Gibson style guitars 😉 but strats with tremolo usually have tuning problems way more than Gibson guitars 🤔
Fishman Fluence pickups are actually analog, there is no digital processing. The printed circuits that are used to create our fluence cores are analog technology. While the core technology is the same, the internal design of the humbuckers and the p90s are actually very different. Hopefully that helps!
@@Ottophil if you can find any. It was gone within days. Gibson only makes a few hundred copies and people buy them immediately to sell them for double or triple the price. It's getting disgusting. Everything Gibson makes now is limited edition signature or a remake of 60's something 💰
I wonder if the design of these needed all that space in the p90 casing? If these are pcb I'd love to have put these in a humbucker or even smaller pup rout.... In a big guitar like a gretsch could you one day have just a pretty transducer visible to the public and your pickup collection tucked away inside the hollow body?
In the video Greg talks about an option to upgrade these pick ups for an extra charge for the out of phase sound. I see no option for an upgrade on these pick ups even on his own website that sells them. Did I misunderstand that option?
Yeah, and you need to be able to really adjust the volume on each different to get them to work. So not only are they not great with a single master volume, but you don't really want to use the old 50s Gibson wiring either. I like the 50s wiring on Les Pauls so i don't need to use a treble bleed and i like the bloom they have when notes and chords ring out. Unfortunately when you're using the middle position with the 50s wiring, the volume controls react completely differently than stock, it's a far greater sweep, and if you roll 1 volume down too much, you just lose the output completely. It'll just cut out. It's why i don't use that wiring on 335s because i use the middle position most of the time and roll the volumes for the pickups in and out depending on what I'm going for. I should really use the keyboard more and voice type less and these comments wouldn't be as long.
Having a phase switch that swaps phase on the neck along with running it through a series capacitor (low-cut) is cool. The bass frequencies being cut from the neck are then not canceling with those frequencies from the bridge, which fattens it up (often called half out of phase). It can do a decent job of making a Tele-ish middle position sound kinda like a strat quack position. As a bonus, the low cut is a nice option when using the neck pickup alone.
You know the Fluence pickups never held any attraction for me. Im a single coil 60-70% of the time, and humbuckers the rest. I stick with traditional vintage style single coil and PAF humbuckers. I've tried the Fluences and liked it, but nothing id modify a guitar to take them. I've played for 30 years (with several long breaks in between), repaired guitars for 15+ and amps for 10. I've never been into P90s. Whenever a high end Gibson or PRS came in with P90s, my immediate thought was always "what a waste of a beautiful guitar." My opinion on P90s has changed in the last year/ year and a half to say the least. Now i get it. The Hum is a killer to me though. I've used noiseless single coils in the past, i really like the Mojotones, and i liked the Dimarzio VV, but i never mistake them with true single coils; i just have to much experience with the old single coils. P90s though: i haven't really played them before except when doing something to someone else's guitar and needing to see if it worked. I picked up a Revstar 502T (a Yamaha with P90s and a trapeze bridge is something i would never think i wanted 2 years ago), which BTW i can't remember the last time a guitar surprised and impressed me as much as these do, and I'm not alone, every tech and luthier i know says the same. I've decided that I'm going with noiseless with it: I'm don't have the same experience with P90s so I'm not likely to lament the fact that they're not "true-P90s," they're all new to me. I said a couple months ago how i wished they made Fluence P90s. I swear i looked them up like a week ago and they didn't exist, so I'm surprised to see them here.
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Les Paul would be proud
It's literally impossible not to love Greg. Aside from his amazing playing he's just that guy that you want to hang out with...or even just listen to for his depth of knowledge blended with that wicked sense of humor.
I love this type of guitar tone.
I’ve got a tele with the Gristle tone Tele set, A strat with Single width, a barytone tele with Fluence Classic HB’s… Next up is a tele with these p90’ies :-) I’m a huge fan of these PU’s… Sincerely Perry Stenbäck ( 2x Grammy Winner in Denmark)
Tuned in to listen to Greg play! The sweet honey tones coming out of those Fishman pickups and Gibson guitar are just a nice bonus. Milwaukee's Best...and we ain't talking cheap beer, here!
These on the new Gretsch p90 will be astonishing
I was not impressed by the Fluence Strat or humbucker PUPS but they absolutely nailed both the Tele and P-90 with Greg. Not sure I understand the tech fully, but if the coils are neutural and the sound is "modeled" it would be extremely cool to see a set that does tele single coil neck and bridge with one voice and a WRHB with the other--e.g. an all in one Tele Custom/Deluxe or '68/'72 Thinline. It would also be interesting to hear that 3rd P-90 voice in a T-style guitar.....
I haven't heard a better tone that that of a vintage les Paul jr. Those single p90 pups just roar. I own a 61 les paul jr and damn. All the tone
I have a 56 myself. Couldn’t be happier.
T nice. A 56 would be an amazing guitar.
I was literally just hoping that there would be P90 Fishmans one day, and here they are!
I'd like to ask Greg, if these pickups sound more or less 'twangy' than a factory Gibson P-90.
How do these pickups go feeding an old Germanium fuzz?
First time I like any Fishman pickup 🤔🤔🤔🤔
great to hear this great guitar player
These are tempting me. If the P100s don't work in my band's mix, these are an option.
I need these now.
John Nailers Pickups? can't find it
Joe Naylor with Reverend. He markets RailHammer pickups, too. He also designed a great amp called the Naylor SD60. One of Tim Pierce's faves.
I dig.
I'm always looking for options for my Gibson guitars that have a bit of twang to them. All pickups can sound very much the same with varying amounts of overdrive but I want to hear how well a pickup sounds without any overdrive.
THAT'S HOW THESE WERE DEMO'D
I wonder if you can change the housing on this and convert it to dog eared style? Throw it in a gold glory ya know
I wanna hear some Tony Iommi on these things
10:18 ok I'm confused how to spell his name. And any link of this guy works?
Lance Bowzer
Fantastic sound! Great!
Wow pure p90 sound (not)
What’s that teal tele?
That's his signature Reverend. 2nd one. Looks very Fender, but has a set neck, 24.75" scale, ebony fretboard, P90s, and a Bigsby. Seems to me like a nice Gibson LP Special in Fender garments. (His earlier Rev sig is clearly in the Fender lane.)
@@virtuososo I love teal, teles, Reverends, Fender, P90s, and Bigsbys. So it makes sense why I was drawn to it lol
If the Fishman's are digital then why not put p90 and trad humbucker tones in one pickup? Make one tone a master and the other a rotary switch. I mainly play humbuckers but absolutely love p90s. I have a PRS SE 245 SC I put some $18 (for both) Chinese P90s in that do the thick velvet tone Greg demoed here, incredible! Then I have a set of Phat Cat 90s in a hardtail RG that ring like a bell. P90s got the secret sauce, but oh that infernal noise!
I've got plenty of Gibson p90's and a couple boutique p90's and they all sound freaking AMAZING and I find no noise problems at all with any of them !
I also find that the tuning problems that plague Gibson guitars in the internet are non existent in my collection of Gibson and Gibson style guitars 😉 but strats with tremolo usually have tuning problems way more than Gibson guitars 🤔
Fishman Fluence pickups are actually analog, there is no digital processing. The printed circuits that are used to create our fluence cores are analog technology. While the core technology is the same, the internal design of the humbuckers and the p90s are actually very different. Hopefully that helps!
Digital pickups? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?
My long-time greatest wish is that Gibson would have a master volume control that is easily reachable (like a fender Strat) with my pinky finger.
Your wish has been granted. Check out the new Kirk Douglas signature model SG. He did exactly that
@@Ottophil if you can find any. It was gone within days. Gibson only makes a few hundred copies and people buy them immediately to sell them for double or triple the price. It's getting disgusting. Everything Gibson makes now is limited edition signature or a remake of 60's something 💰
I wonder if the design of these needed all that space in the p90 casing? If these are pcb I'd love to have put these in a humbucker or even smaller pup rout.... In a big guitar like a gretsch could you one day have just a pretty transducer visible to the public and your pickup collection tucked away inside the hollow body?
Fishman Switch-A-Rooney™
In the video Greg talks about an option to upgrade these pick ups for an extra charge for the out of phase sound.
I see no option for an upgrade on these pick ups even on his own website that sells them.
Did I misunderstand that option?
It’s hard to hear big differences between the modes.
ARE YOU LISTENING ON YOUR PHONE SPEAKER?
@@gregmize01 JUST ON MY STUDIO MONITORS!
You might want to check how the eq/frequency is set on your monitors, the differences are rather pronounced
@@justinguitarcia Agree!
@@Davimre its still youtube compression. Lolol
In my experience out-of-phase pickups only sound good in a minimum of applications.
Yeah, and you need to be able to really adjust the volume on each different to get them to work. So not only are they not great with a single master volume, but you don't really want to use the old 50s Gibson wiring either. I like the 50s wiring on Les Pauls so i don't need to use a treble bleed and i like the bloom they have when notes and chords ring out. Unfortunately when you're using the middle position with the 50s wiring, the volume controls react completely differently than stock, it's a far greater sweep, and if you roll 1 volume down too much, you just lose the output completely. It'll just cut out. It's why i don't use that wiring on 335s because i use the middle position most of the time and roll the volumes for the pickups in and out depending on what I'm going for.
I should really use the keyboard more and voice type less and these comments wouldn't be as long.
I use a compressor to give an out of phase sound a boost and even more quack
Having a phase switch that swaps phase on the neck along with running it through a series capacitor (low-cut) is cool. The bass frequencies being cut from the neck are then not canceling with those frequencies from the bridge, which fattens it up (often called half out of phase). It can do a decent job of making a Tele-ish middle position sound kinda like a strat quack position. As a bonus, the low cut is a nice option when using the neck pickup alone.
You know the Fluence pickups never held any attraction for me. Im a single coil 60-70% of the time, and humbuckers the rest. I stick with traditional vintage style single coil and PAF humbuckers. I've tried the Fluences and liked it, but nothing id modify a guitar to take them.
I've played for 30 years (with several long breaks in between), repaired guitars for 15+ and amps for 10. I've never been into P90s. Whenever a high end Gibson or PRS came in with P90s, my immediate thought was always "what a waste of a beautiful guitar."
My opinion on P90s has changed in the last year/ year and a half to say the least. Now i get it. The Hum is a killer to me though. I've used noiseless single coils in the past, i really like the Mojotones, and i liked the Dimarzio VV, but i never mistake them with true single coils; i just have to much experience with the old single coils.
P90s though: i haven't really played them before except when doing something to someone else's guitar and needing to see if it worked. I picked up a Revstar 502T (a Yamaha with P90s and a trapeze bridge is something i would never think i wanted 2 years ago), which BTW i can't remember the last time a guitar surprised and impressed me as much as these do, and I'm not alone, every tech and luthier i know says the same. I've decided that I'm going with noiseless with it: I'm don't have the same experience with P90s so I'm not likely to lament the fact that they're not "true-P90s," they're all new to me. I said a couple months ago how i wished they made Fluence P90s. I swear i looked them up like a week ago and they didn't exist, so I'm surprised to see them here.
fishman must offer same pickup setting like this greg knoch guitar( with out of phase ). Please 50 dollars more do not make the different
where i can find the after market add outofphase
Personally i never liked the Fluence pickups, all those "voicing" options make it sound unnatural. It sounds nothing like a P90.
What blew it for me was the battery! I don't want to dick-around with another gimmicky issue.