I have the full under body kit on my nd. It was installed a section at a time over a few weeks ending with the middle. The rear diffuser made the most difference. Noise at highway speed is reduced and handling over 65 is better. I highly recommend but am also worried about heat build up on track in the drivetrain.
On the dive planes the information packet says "helps pull air out of the fender wells" so both is your answer. Can't wait to get the diffuser for my ND!
If you are going to choose one of these to get. The canards will most likely be the best single mod to get. Aero wise for the diffuser to function you will want all of the other underbody panels. (extremely short explanation) the flat underbelly is key to reduce turbulence keeping the air attached to the panels which allows the air to flow along the upwards curve of the diffuser creating a better suction effect. The faster you can get the air moving, the lower pressure you will have under the car. High pressure above the car with low pressure under the car results in a downwards force. Jullian edgar or EngExplained have some informative vids on this that could explain better. That being said, looks like I have more to add to my 22 club rf once it arrives
Ok, you asked... As for instructional install videos, how about doing a timing chain replacement for the ND? Turbo install for the ND? Header, mid-pipe install for the ND? Window regulator replacement for the ND? Oil coolers engine, trans and diff for the ND? Suspension upgrade on the ND2 since it has the KPC or more info on the KPC, not that Keith didn't do a good job, but some driving reviews would be nice too. I know I only mentioned ND, but that's because YT is filled with NA,NB and NC installation videos...and I'm looking at getting a new ND2.😀
Oh, and be sure to search our channel. Since we do a new video every week, some of the older ones can get hard to find. Check out Keith's video on our ND Trans, Diff & oil coolers! th-cam.com/video/fAFkinnMu6s/w-d-xo.html
I'm looking to get the under panels and likely the diffuser. What is a "point" of drag? Like a location on the carr, or like some value tied to the drag coefficient? Thanks
The Verus panels are made to attach to the stock bracing, but could possibly be made to work with other bracing. We have not tested it with any other aftermarket kits. Give our CSR team a call, or reach out to Verus directly. They should be able to give you some better answers.
These parts look good BUT it is a high price to pay for minimal gains ($199 for the canards!). However, if you have a generous budget and you are using the car on track a lot then perhaps it would be an 'end of list' set of modifications.
The parts are at this higher cost for one reason: research and development! They are one of the best (arguably the best) in this business for a reason.
So for anyone that has these or knows, is the 10 points improvement a noticeable or impactful difference. I’m interested but only if it will help with the downforce enough to be worth it. The car is a little floaty above 75 and I’m on full suspension upgrades. I need some downforce but don’t want lip or wing.
My question In this is I live in an area that gets winter. Which means salt. Would something like this along woth regular underbody washings help increase the longevity and protect against rust?
We have no testing or documentation for these parts as rust prevention, and since it's not a water tight seal, don't see it doing much to keep out moisture and salt. A good under chassis rust prevention treatment would be a better investment.
We don't currently have them for sale on our website, but they should work fine with our coilovers and we may add them to our catalog in the future. Please reach out to our customer support team if you have any specific questions about fitment before purchasing.
@@FlyinMiataVideo What about the suspension cover with your diff cooler? Also I'm curious about the heat build-up of transmission with those cover installed
Usually there is a standard, but different tests can be set for different standards. Verus uses 100mph for most of their testing. You can see more info on the testing and science behind their products in the blogs on their website. www.verus-engineering.com/blog/new-product-11/in-depth-understanding-of-dive-planes-on-the-nd-miata-46
I have the full under body kit on my nd. It was installed a section at a time over a few weeks ending with the middle. The rear diffuser made the most difference. Noise at highway speed is reduced and handling over 65 is better. I highly recommend but am also worried about heat build up on track in the drivetrain.
I wish my miata went fast enough to require this
Ha! Good one!!
Please do install videos for the Verus parts.
On the dive planes the information packet says "helps pull air out of the fender wells" so both is your answer. Can't wait to get the diffuser for my ND!
If you are going to choose one of these to get. The canards will most likely be the best single mod to get.
Aero wise for the diffuser to function you will want all of the other underbody panels. (extremely short explanation) the flat underbelly is key to reduce turbulence keeping the air attached to the panels which allows the air to flow along the upwards curve of the diffuser creating a better suction effect. The faster you can get the air moving, the lower pressure you will have under the car. High pressure above the car with low pressure under the car results in a downwards force.
Jullian edgar or EngExplained have some informative vids on this that could explain better.
That being said, looks like I have more to add to my 22 club rf once it arrives
They are so ugly, though. :(
Ok, you asked...
As for instructional install videos, how about doing a timing chain replacement for the ND? Turbo install for the ND? Header, mid-pipe install for the ND? Window regulator replacement for the ND? Oil coolers engine, trans and diff for the ND? Suspension upgrade on the ND2 since it has the KPC or more info on the KPC, not that Keith didn't do a good job, but some driving reviews would be nice too.
I know I only mentioned ND, but that's because YT is filled with NA,NB and NC installation videos...and I'm looking at getting a new ND2.😀
Thanks for the suggestions, we'll add some of these to our video idea list!
Oh, and be sure to search our channel. Since we do a new video every week, some of the older ones can get hard to find. Check out Keith's video on our ND Trans, Diff & oil coolers!
th-cam.com/video/fAFkinnMu6s/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, Brandon!
I'm looking to get the under panels and likely the diffuser. What is a "point" of drag? Like a location on the carr, or like some value tied to the drag coefficient? Thanks
It's just a point on the car that affects drag. It's not anything specific, necessarily.
Endless mods for miatas damn
If you get the full underbody bracing can you also add the full aero underneath too?
The Verus panels are made to attach to the stock bracing, but could possibly be made to work with other bracing. We have not tested it with any other aftermarket kits. Give our CSR team a call, or reach out to Verus directly. They should be able to give you some better answers.
These parts look good BUT it is a high price to pay for minimal gains ($199 for the canards!). However, if you have a generous budget and you are using the car on track a lot then perhaps it would be an 'end of list' set of modifications.
The parts are at this higher cost for one reason: research and development! They are one of the best (arguably the best) in this business for a reason.
So for anyone that has these or knows, is the 10 points improvement a noticeable or impactful difference. I’m interested but only if it will help with the downforce enough to be worth it. The car is a little floaty above 75 and I’m on full suspension upgrades. I need some downforce but don’t want lip or wing.
Would be nice to know how much, if any, more miles / gallon you get from the underbelly + diffusor.
4.3 mpg average increase at 65mph based on 11 tanks of gas.
Has anyone weighed all the pieces? 2 middle, 2 rear suspension, and diffuser.
Yes, installed weight is the following… Added underbody aero panels 3.1KG (rear diffuser) + 2.2kg (suspension covers) + 1.9kg flat mid underbody = 7.9kg
My question In this is I live in an area that gets winter. Which means salt. Would something like this along woth regular underbody washings help increase the longevity and protect against rust?
We have no testing or documentation for these parts as rust prevention, and since it's not a water tight seal, don't see it doing much to keep out moisture and salt. A good under chassis rust prevention treatment would be a better investment.
Recommendation for video...rollbar in ND
Thanks for the suggestion, we've added this to our video idea list!
Do you still carry the rear suspension cover parts, which mate up with the rear diffuser?
We don't currently have those in our catalog, but we are looking at possibly adding those soon.
What is that wing, and where do I get it?
It's a Big Wang from 9Lives Racing. You can get them from Flyin' Miata.
flyinmiata.com/products/the-big-wang-kit-by-9lives-racing-2016
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thank you!
What about the rear suspension covers. Ie does it work with your coil over setup.
We don't currently have them for sale on our website, but they should work fine with our coilovers and we may add them to our catalog in the future. Please reach out to our customer support team if you have any specific questions about fitment before purchasing.
@@FlyinMiataVideo What about the suspension cover with your diff cooler? Also I'm curious about the heat build-up of transmission with those cover installed
When a item is rated for an amount (i.e. 60lbs) of down force it adds, what speed is that? Is their a speed standard for this rating with aero?
Usually there is a standard, but different tests can be set for different standards. Verus uses 100mph for most of their testing. You can see more info on the testing and science behind their products in the blogs on their website.
www.verus-engineering.com/blog/new-product-11/in-depth-understanding-of-dive-planes-on-the-nd-miata-46
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