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One of my frustrations are shifters that take up console space. I am not a column shift purist, I just don't understand taking up space that could be a cup holders or storage space with a shifter.
I had a GMC and now a RAM. I don’t miss my GMC at all. My RAM is a lower trim, yet has more features.
Removing rear ac vents is absurd. Any truck I've ever been in a feel like the need more ac/heat venting to the back but they're always lacking because trucks don't have the same interior shape and components as say an suv that can provide more venting.
I'm still wondering WTH was GM thinking eliminating 12 volt accessory outlets? I have 5 high use items that need it (trailer TPS, rear trailer camera monitors, portable air compressor, air mattress pump, and UHF/ VHF travel radios. Yet, I have way too many USB outlets and even 110 Volt outlet in the console that I have never used. 😡
To me, GM wheelwells/tires look like a round peg in a square hole. They started that ridiculous look in 1973.
One mistake I hear Ford is planning to make is removing the keyless entry system. With it you can COMPLETELY empty your pockets say at the beach. No risk to lose your keys and wallet. No need to dip your phone in the ocean. I hear people say let Ford take the keyless entry away, I can use my phone! Your phone would be better locked in the truck than at the bottom of the ocean!!!
I would be surprised if they got rid of keyless completely, it may be different than what it is now, but it is a hugely popular option.
One of my biggest complaints with modern trucks is the absurd height of the bed side walls, and bed height. I buy a truck to haul things. (imagine that?) Having to climb into the bed to get something sitting on the bed deck is aggregating.
You are so correct. I am only 5'7" tall, and now that I am approaching 60 years old, it gets extremely frustrating, and my truck is a stock height Chevy 1/2 ton.
I agree
Get a Maverick
@@henryford2736 not nearly enough capacity for my needs
Ive owned two vehicles with a sunroof. The first one, i thought it was awesome for about 15 minutes until i changed direction and the sun was shining right on my face.
Almost completely unused after that. The 2018 Highlander we have has a sunroof which I bet hasn't even been opened 10 times and we bought it new.
I would never option a sunroof on a vehicle if I had the choice.
I'm sure im in the minority here, but I don't want these TV screens in my vehicle. A simple button radio does the job. I still prefer my analog gauge cluster too. All that computer stuff just adds to the cost and will eventually cause significant costs for repair when it fails.
GM doesn’t allow CarPlay to take up the whole screen, where Ford does. That’s one of my biggest annoyances. Just tried another GM a week ago and it still doesn’t do it as far as I or the dealer could see.
That said. GM cameras are better, hands down. I also like the video rear mirror you can’t get in a ford. I also like the volume and channel/track buttons on the back of GM steering wheels. Ford and their better seats. Ford has their pro power system. They really trade blows in a lot of ways.
If only we could get them to come together and build the ultimate truck…
On my 2016 F-350, the front AC vents were round, and you could rotate them to direct the air in any direction. On my 2023 F-450, the larger 12-inch screen resulted in reducing the size of the AC vents. Also the center console is smaller on the newer truck.
I bought a 2024 gmc 2500 at4 last year and put 20k miles on it about 12k towing a 12-13k lbs trailer and I just bought a 2024 f350 about 2k miles and boy are there lots of things that ford does better and a few that gmc does better. Keep in mind both truck were with in $1000 msrp.
Dislikes about the gmc. Column shifter blocked the screen, they removed the console shifter but didn’t put anything there. Just a flat spot that was pretty much useless. 4 pin trailer connector was in the bed of the truck not the bumper making it useless. Shoving a google maps subscription down your throat every time you turn on the truck. Seats weren’t great, not terrible but not great. No electronic locking diff in an off road oriented truck, 4x4 was pretty awful in the snow. No 12 volt outlets. You can tell the cab was designed for a half ton truck and was adapted to work with the hd trucks.
Things I miss from the gmc. The multi pro tailgate is amazing. Thought it was a gimmick but man does it make hooking up a gooseneck easy. Camera quality was much better than the ford, most noticeable on the bed camera. Projector style headlights and led on the entire truck. I do prefer the exterior design of the gmc to the ford.
Things I don’t like about the ford. Let’s start with the headlights. While they are led they are not projector and the taillights are not led. Yes you can get them but it is about a 5k price difference from a fully loaded lariat to a platinum. Interior fuse box is in a terrible spot if you would like to run accessories to it. Bed camera is such low quality it’s practically useless. Going back to a standard tail gate sucks.
Things I like better about the ford. The seats are way better, sound system is way better, under seat storage is way better, locking diff on the fx4, way more power, media center is bigger and has more features, more gauge options for towing and other info, different layouts for the heads up and more info on the heads up, ton of space where the console shifter would be and possibly the best feature of them all the cup holders fit a hydroflask or a Nalgene water bottle. Ford’s interior is more polished and thought out than GMC’s.
While I prefer the Ford so far there are things that gmc does better than ford but overall if I could go back and just buy one in would be the ford. The GMC also had some quarks that were irritating. I sure I forget some stuff but that is my run down on the two.
We’re happy with our f-150 eco boost 3.4 with max tow package tows our rv trailer weight of 6,140 and length 26 . It does a really good job towing. I wouldn’t tow any heavier or longer. It’s just me and hubby. No need to buy a 2500. The ford gets good mileage for daily driving then my 4Runner . Eco boost does a great job compared to any half ton truck. My son towed with a Chevy 150 and traded in for a eco boost and felt the difference.
I'm a RAM guy myself. On my second RAM truck. I really loved your video showing the 2025 RAM Limited. I agree about the 12V outlets.
I have had a Silverado, Sierra, Tundra and currently a 2019 King Ranch F150. I believe that the back seat vents are a nice feature in concept. I have not yet seen a back seat vent that has enough air flow to be effective short of cranking up the blower for the front seat positions. Why don't manufacturers add an auxiliary blower motor in the console to boost the back seat vents? As for the AUX ports, I would venture to say that 95% of owners never use them. Still they probably do not cost much to provide or save enough to eliminate. Moon/Sun roof, I think that should be an option. I can count on my right hand how many times I have opened mine including the shade, and half of those openings were because I pushed the wrong button. Having been the service sales manager for a GM dealership I can assure you that the sun/moon roof will be the source of problems, water leaks, sooner or later if you open the shade or glass with any frequency. I don't want to repair something that I would not have chosen in the first place. Thanks for the video.
Gm used the 2016 interior in its 2019-2022 trucks and the average GM customer was impressed by a switch that rolled all the windows down.
GM also can’t figure out a flat rear floor
@jasonlarsen3515 neither can Ram.
@@xhawkeye8717Even the Tundra and Tacoma don't get a flat floor in the back seat if you get the TRD Pro Tundra or Tacoma. The way that Toyota does their hybrid setup the battery is in the back seat space where there is a huge hump. With Ford's hybrid setup in their F-150 you are able to get a flat floor.
Up until the major interior instrument/dash panel changes GM's dash reminded me of a Mr. Potato Head game. And don't get me started on the steering wheel that did not come straight our from the dash.
@@11211lcb so many Gm owners are in denial about the off set wheel.
Does anyone know why manufacturers don't offer air ride seats, such as what are used in long haul trucks, in their F450 & F550 models? I would think that it would dramatically expand their user base and would be appealing to a lot of people who downsize primarily to get a better ride. Yes I know it's probably a cost issue (and I would happily pay more to get it) but offering it as an optional accessory seems like an obvious benefit.
From the comments he has made about the 450 ride in the 2024, I think Ford nailed this issue. Enough that I will probably go 450 over 350.
@@jbontra2 I appreciate your reply,, thank you. It's good to learn that Ford may have addressed this matter in the 450. In my own case, I'm considering a 550 because I want a flatbed and knuckle boom crane on it because I'm all on my own with a farm to look after, and I anticipate the need for multi-state travel where I don't want my truck beating me to death when I drive all day. My needs probably don't mirror many other customers so I'll probably have to end up taking what I can get. Thanks again for your reply. 😃
The on board power that Ford offers.I wish GM did the same. By the way does the compressor work on the GM truck bed 400 Watt
I have a 2017 Ram 2500 & 2022 F-150 powerboost. Plus I drive a 2022 F-350 xl at work. I definitely like the higher output inverter in the powerboost and would really like to see (at least) a 2kw capacity become more common across brands. This might be because I have the hybrid f-150, but I don’t think I have any regular 12v ports in it. Several 120v and some usb, but I can’t remember seeing any standard 12v ones.
One thing I noticed right away, after having Ram/Dodge vehicles for many years and now my 1st Ford with “auto” climate control, the Ford “auto” strategy leaves a lot to be desired. My Ram is very much a set it & forget it, I rarely even think about needing to make an adjustment on it. My F-150 seems like the hvac is less effective in its auto mode & needs more interaction to keep comfortable.
I’m also going to mention reliability & parts availability. I’m hearing several ‘24 & some ‘23 Super Duty trucks are suffering from a/c compressor failures. The bigger issue is that they have no parts available and show MONTHS for back ordered ones.
My husband was a die hard GMC man. Until he saw the wax on GMC frames. He is on his second Ram and loves them. Love the interior more too. And yes the seat are more comfortable in the ram.
My solid wood dining table seats are more comfortable than GM truck seats lol
it's simple, stuff like outlets and ac vents are deleted to save money, same with 4 pin trailer connectors. shift levers are redundant these days, most transmissions are shifted electrically. ram has the best solution for that with the shift knob. forget about sunroofs and 120 outlets, give us more 12V outlets, in the front and back.seats. 120 v outlets in the bed area for small power tools
I've been a GM guy my whole life but ordered/bought a 22 F350 KR due to it rear vents, panoramic sunroof, massage seats (even though they got deleted during the parts shortage) and most importantly the rear leg room for my kids. It was a no brainer. I've really enjoyed it so far.
JB great video / i bought a 2024 GMC 3500 DRW in March to start RV life and retirement , Your spot on with missing the cigarette Lighter Plug in, Also at 10 thousand miles i went to change the Allison Spin on filter only to find it not a real 1000 series Allison No external filter and no dipstick to add Oil to Trans. Boy am i pissed WTH ,. On a side Note after driving all 3 the GMC has best ride and poor fuel milage / i mite bought the Ford but they wanted $9000.00 over MSRP. Dodge has the Best Engine brake and interiors but the cabin is the same as my 2003 was and small in comparison to the GM or Fords. One other thing you my like to know I’m getting 1000 miles per gallon of DEF
I drive a 2002 GMC 2500HD, that has Three 12V outlets on the dash, and I've never used any of them. - My biggest complaint with ALL current pickups regardless of brand, is the Massive Hood & Grill, that obliterates forward view, for no gain, aside from making it "look" tough.
radiator and cooling packages are bigger because the higher horsepower and emissions
I was a Ford guy (40 years) but wanted a 1/2 ton truck diesel. I switched to the GMC AT4 with the baby dramamax solely for the diesel motor. I feel like the GMC interior is more geared toward driver/passenger comfort and function than Ford. Ford's inability to allow for Apple CarPlay wirelessly is puzzling. And, unlike JD, I like the seats in the GMC better than the Ford seats.
Number pads to unlock the door is an awesome feature that ford has that all should have, You are pot on about power more the better. I think all med/heavy duty gas trucks should come with 220 amp alternators and dual batteries with the inverters tied to the aux battery so you can shut the truck off and still charge things, or run a 12volt cooler. Every 4wd should have E-lockers front and rear. Flat floor is great. NO Carpet in the wheel wells. The panoramic moon roof doesn't really bother me i feel it makes the roof weaker in a rollover situation. SHIFTERS, no buttons, no knobs, shifters. TOW mirrors on all truck and half ton based suvs standard.
My '23 Silverado Crew Cab LT with a 3.0-liter and standard bed does not have any 12v outlets and I can't say that I have needed or missed that option. Cords hanging all over the dash bug the hell out of me. I do use my truck as a truck on a fairly regular basis (although not for work). My only negative comment about it is the quality of the non-Bose stereo system, especially when compared to the audio options available from other OEMs. I do enjoy the sliding rear window option and don't feel that I miss the lack of a sunroof after not really using it in previous vehicles. I purchased the LT trim specifically to get cloth seats as I did not want the LTZ grade leather but would have taken the High Country grade leather except that package also required painted bumpers - not a fan). The cloth seats wear and look good IMO, but they are a little stiff.
BRING BACK THE 12V OUTLETS AND ADD ONE IN THE BED OF THE TRUCK-----WE LIVE 30 MILES FROM GROCERY SHOPPING AND EMPLOY A 12 VOLT REG/ FRZ TO GET COLD GOODS HOME-----HAVE TO PLACE COOLER IN BACK SEAT NOW
I had a 2020 F-350 XLT, which I sold and still regret selling. I replaced it with a GMC 1500 Sierra SLT. I like the GMC very much. Very comfortable and very well equipped. Love the pro tail gate. Makes loading and unloading a breeze! The thing that bothers me the most about the truck is that I seem to have a difficult time visualizing where the front corners are in relation to the things around it. Never had that problem in the Ford or my old ‘01 Ram 2500. What I miss about my F-350 more than anything is the 360 degree cameras. It was also a very comfortable truck for that size of truck. Loved that truck!
I currently own a 2014 Chevy Crew cab 1/2 LTZ. It has 207k on the clock. As I am shopping for a replacement, which will be used, I am also poking at the new trucks just because it is fun. I must say that if i was going to buy a new truck based exclusively on interior and seat comfort, it would be a Ford F150 Crew Lariat with the top line add on package. Also, the B&O sound system is far superior the the Bose system in the GM. I agree that the latest GM trucks have lost seat comfort. Up until May of 2022, I spent 26 years as a GM service advisor, and starting with the 2019 pickups, I received more customer complaints about seat comfort, and I had to agree with them.
I have a 2023 f350 drw love the truck! Comfort 9.5 options are great with the ultimate pkg. on board power at 2000 watts has been useful. GM has no offering at this level. GM seats are not as plush but some have said it’s better for longer trips to have a more dense foam.🤷♂️
I had an '03 and an '06 Duramax powered 2500s, then went to a '14 Super Duty. I really miss the gauge cluster on that era of GM trucks. The Ford cluster is nothing more than dummy lights with a needle.
I had a ram 1500 and I really liked the customization options of the speedometer cluster. it allowed you to add 2 gauges of your choosing and 4 digital displays in all the corners.
my 19 GMC had 4 buttons on the doors to lock/unlock. 23 chevy only has buttons on the front doors.
I like the unlock/lock buttons of Toyota which has two touch points you unlocks when you grab the handle and locks when you push the outside touchpoint as opposed to gm's 1 button.
I wish there was a way to turn my car from running to remote start without having to turn it off. example would be if im running into the store and need to leave the dogs inside the truck. but truck is more secure. cant shift into drive without the key.
Went from F250 to Ram 3500.
I miss the number pad access that Ford offers.
I switched from a 2016 Ram 2500 to a 22.5 GMC Sierra AT4 3.L. I was down sizing to a half ton all together. One thing I really liked about GMC truck was the horizontal center screen verse the Ram vertical center screen. I feel I can read the screen better and. It take my eyes completely off the road.
My 2012 gmc sierra 1500 had a super comfortable seat and 3 cup holders in center console. My 2017 seats are really stiff and only 2 cup holders!
Owner of a 2018 GMC 3500 HD Denali Duramax.
I wish I had rear ac/heater vents and the controls for them!!
Dumb for removing them!!
JD, I have a ‘63 AMC that doesn’t have backup lights. Common sense items are a relative concept for me.
I have owned a Chevy Silverado and currently own an F-150. I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time. So the technology change was profound. I prefer my Ford driving experience by far. The ride is similar but the seats are much better. I have been looking for an F-250 or 2500 GM and it seems that to get like for like options you nearly have to get the Denali compared to the Lariat! The Ford may be more, but I feel like it's worth it.
Ford does make a split tailgate for the 2024 F150. It opens horizontally.
Living in the northeast one thing which is a must have after having it on one vehicle is a heated steering wheel. I’m a gm guy but have owned some fords and what keeps me from going to ford is a mid to low level truck from gm comes with a heated steering wheel where as with ford you have to buy atleast a lariat and spend so much more than a xlt which is more in most peoples price range, I know you can add it with forscan but I really don’t wanna tear apart a brand new truck and add all kinds of stuff and potentially have warranty issues if something goes wrong and the dealer blames it on adding and programming parts not originally equipped for the vehicle
Smart door handles for the rear doors. This is so important is you have a family. Charge an extra $200 and bring them back!
Great job on this video
As soon as Ford or Chevy make a mid size truck with extended cab and 6 foot bed, I'll by one. How about putting actual off-road packages on base trims!
And/or letting us get the mid-high off road trims with a long bed!
Seriously, most of us just get off road trims/packages for the look anyway.
I’m very content with my 2024 GMC 3500 Denali dually. I didn’t consider any other brand. Ram has frame issues and I’m carrying a very heavy truck camper. I get an employee discount with GM so ford wasn’t an option either. The tail gate is great. But very heavy to remove. I agree these models are hard to find. But I found mine on a lot locally.
I can’t speak on the gmc Denali but my 2020 Silverado LT trim has rear air vents and multiple 12v outlets
You made some generalizations about the GM trucks that I think are not accurate. I have a 2023 3500HD High Country. I have 12v plugs, rear AC vents, column shifter. I agree with you on companies removing features that customers love makes no sense.
You have a 2023 HD.. the 2024 HDs do not have them. You have the previous generation interior.
I have a 2016 gmc sierra 1500 slt premium package I also have a 2020 ford f250 lariat ultimate and both trucks are very similar but very different the 1500 is a good daily I can get in and out out traffic and does pretty much everything I need it to. My f250 is a nice truck my kids love the sun roof (I know you hate it lol) but the truck is also a great daily it does everything u need and still ask for more and this f250 has changed my perspective I’ll never buy another 1500 truck I’ll try to keep my gmc as long as I can but the f250 turned into my favorite truck I ever owned real quick
Shifter on the column, actual keys, bench seat available for trim above work truck/XLT. I enjoy the options hate the push button start. Stop auto applying emergency brake, stupid thing comes on while parking RV make process frustrating to have to keep turning it off. Yes I have a 22 F-150. Hate the electronic console shifter. If I want to put the truck in reverse with the door open I already know that and I hate the pause it has to unlock the shifter so I can move it. Mechanical here is what miss I hate the pause and it is noticeable for someone use to a mechanical column or console shifter.
I like my ram HD with the air suspension makes hooking up a trailer a breeze and the truck never squats. Kind of shocked no one else offers it. The ride is good too.
I think gm really screwed us on the seats.. They're just not comfortable. They never broke in like I'd imagined they would. 60k miles on my '16 2500hd and they're still rock hard
Lockable fuel doors should be added on all HD trucks. This feature have been available on cars and SUVs from all the manufacturers for a very long time.
Personally I like the trims of the GM. I agree with why do we remove the rear AC?! I don't own but work for GM. There is a lot of plug and plays for GM you can use for towing. Unfortunately you have to go through their recommended after market companies. The 23+ do have 12volt but I think it's depending on trim. 3.0 baby diesels are easy to find in my area (west Texas) if you guys really are looking for them
I drive my vehicles until they drop. My full size is a 2003 Silverado 1500HD. I didn’t know that GM did away with the 12V until you reported on it in an earlier video. To GM I’d say….. “Bring those 12V back and give us more!!! Look to see what your competitors are doing and do more of that too!”
Nice raised deck!
GMC: If you never have more than one passenger ("Shotgun!"), you don't need rear AC vents. That said, if you're a 2nd seat passenger, rear AC vents are /wonderful/.
12 volt outlet: I'm surprised GMC doesn't even offer it as an option, and that Ford doesn't offer extra 12v ports as an option.
I hate console shifters in trucks. So much so it was part of the reason I went back to a HD. Much less the electronic one GM went with that wont allow you to shift into neutral with out starting the engine. You talked about GM removing the 12v outlets already. It's annoying, but a minor gripe as its easily fixed. One thing that GM fails at is fuel tank size. That 3.0 might have good range with a 24 gallon tank. But one huge miss is if you buy a half ton with a 6.2 engine. GM only offers that same 24 gallon tank. I had a 1500 ZR2 and my range was typically only about 300 miles unloaded. Put a trailer behind its a joke. A comparable F150 like a Tremor can have a 36 gallon tank. With the regulations, Its next to impossible to just add a larger gas tank. Diesel NP, Gas is another story. FWIW, both my 22 1500 and my 24 HD have rear vents.
And now I have motion sickness 😂
Comparing my 06 Nissan Titan to my 17 Expedition EL the biggest difference is in serviceability. The Titan seems to have been designed with the notion it would require service and repairs in mind. For example there is a drip tray to catch and direct the oil runoff when your changing the filter. The Ford by contrast seems to have been designed without any regard what so ever for serviceability. The oil change is a huge pain with almost no access to the filter. The positive battery terminal is a part of a 350$ harness that requires pulling the front diff to replace. Those are just a couple of examples. As a result it will be the last Ford I ever own.
i went from a dodge to a gmc in 2022 and the dodge/ram was a 2016 the gmc seemed to catch up to rams interior and infotainment setup even tho now ram has a bigger screen again but all the other features i noticed a difference too.. i have a higher spec'd gmc so doesnt feel all plastic like the older gm trucks used to be like on the door panels and dash n such if i was to have a choice at either a gmc or ram for the 2024 models it would be a hard decision that would come down to who has the most bang for the dollar in the creature comfort options
I went from a 2012 ford f150 lariat to a 2022 gmc at4 2500 6.6 gas, I found the at4 very interesting I have power running boards and leather seats but no upgraded sound system or sun roof (which I didn’t want) I tow a 2022 rockwood 2608bs so I needed the extra payload with the heavy hitch weight, now granted I do have the older transmission and have been happy with the gains while towing but the equipment package is very confusing compared to what my ford had in the lariat and would consider the equipment package a downgrade from what I saw as a comparable f150 package back in 2012, but I do love the multipro tailgate and didn’t think I would have.
I switched from GMC to Ford. We did not like that the 2015 2500 HD Denali did not have vents in back
I have a 2022 GMC Denali, I love it but wish GMC would install 12volt socket inside and design it where you can use the truck bed outlets without the engine running.
You mentioned the mileage difference between the 450 and GM, what is the difference in the gears in the rear end? I’m sure you have much taller gears in the 450 for the heavy towing.
My biggest frustrations with the big 3 auto makers is the lack of quality that they are producing. Also the prices for these trucks are way too high.
I own a 2021 F350 Dually Platinum Powerstroke and it is in the shop for major things all the time. Our 2023 Bronco Outer Banks isn’t much better. I have friends who own GM and Ram vehicles that are experiencing the same thing.
I actually wish Toyota had a one ton Dually because I would trade my F350 in a heart beat.
They need to make quality the number one thing along with reasonably priced vehicles.
The thing that Ford does that the other manufacturers don’t do is Ford doesn’t charge you a monthly fee to use the Ford app. So you can lock or unlock your car or truck from your phone. You can even start you your truck from your phone with the app and it is a free feature. We bought a Toyota Highlander you get that app feature for free for a year. Then you have to pay a $15 dollar monthly charge to be able to have remote access with you phone and other features like the map assist or some music package to get the remote start and door lock feature. We just wanted the remote access from your phone and not anything more than that. I don’t know any other manufacturer that lets you have access to those features for free not even the Luxury manufactures let you have them features for free. I hope Ford continues to do that!
personally, and this goes for all vehicles I've driven not just trucks, I dislike that they removed the volt gauge and engine temp gauge from easy access ( I know most still have a temp gauge, but on some it's not right in sight on the dash). When it comes to trucks, especially 3/4 ton and bigger, I want transmission temp gauge as well as engine temp and battery volts right where it's easy to see. When I buy a truck it's because I plan to make it work. I could care less about this info-tainment or whatever that they have been going to
2024 gmc 2500 Denali, when in drive the shifter gets in the view of the screen a bit and right in the way of the volume knob
I couldn't care less about the 12V socket. Folks seem to forget what they really are, cigar lighters. All of those round 12V plugs on accessories started out as a hack for accessory manufacturers to get power by tapping the cigar/cigarette lighter socket. It's decades past the time when auto and aftermarket manufacturers should have come up with a smaller uniform format for accessing electrical power. And the truck manufacturers should include a separate, empty pre wired fuse block with 15 sockets and a relay socket for each fuse. We put electrical accessories on trucks. Why make it so damn hard? And how about some blank grommets for getting wiring into the cab? Four would do nicely, one on each side of the fire wall and one on each side of the rear cab wall in the gap between the cab and bed.
Ford has never had good infotainment systems going back to the days of Bluetooth. Even their old am/fm stereos were garbage compared to everyone else. I’m currently waiting for lane keep assist to become a standard feature before I buy my next truck. Every Hyundai and Subaru comes with it standard but it’s a premium option at Ford or Chevy and the systems aren’t half as good. I’m not buying another car or truck without it. And no I’m not talking about butt vibrators that tell you you’re over the line or the crap systems that bounce you back and forth inside the lines until they can’t keep up anymore… I’m talking about the ones that will actually drive your vehicle and hold it in the center of the lane.
GM needs to fix their seat situation. Total dealbreaker for me.
I have 2019 3500 6.6 8'bed 4x4, 18-23 city 25-35, highway towing 14,000 # 14-16 mpg 68mph is best mileage
I have gotten 40 mpg on 50 mile average/ but rare.
Had a 2007 gmc no back vents, the ac was barely strong enough to get the back cold it would have been worse had I not tinted the back to 0%
Yet Ford does NOT put rear ac vents on the new Ranger which do have the vents in other countries???? Stupid!
I hate how the new GM vehicles won’t let you put the vehicle in drive for up to almost a minute if you don’t have your seat belt on. Also hate how they honk the horn, if you leave the key in the vehicle even when off. You’re able to turn this off but it doesn’t always work, as my girlfriends xt4 has one key that I was able to turn this feature off with and another that won’t. This is such a stupid feature.
Hopefully they still have a full sized spare tire.
only 500 horsepower ? also i really couldnt watch this video lol you were moving your had to much and i juust got up i have came back and finished the video w video. since "half ton 5th wheels" arent really safe at all for half ton trucks do you think a f250 or equivalent tier truck would be able to tow them much easier and actually safe
Here’s the real problem with the newer trucks. They don’t talk to REAL truck users. Couple key features that should NEVER be optional: 12v outlets, the “crotch” a/c vent, column shifter, and tie down points in the bed.
All manufacturers are obsessed with carpet on the floor. It's not my living room, its a truck, why make me spend hundreds of dollars on top of an overpriced truck for special floor mats to protect the carpet when they know how to put rubber of vinyl flooring? And the new broncos only let you delete carpet on higher trim levels
Ford has a multi tailgate for half tons.
It's just like Apple VS Samsung. Once you get into an ecosystem, you tend to stay there.
Going from ford or ram to gm is going backwards. GM has always been 5-7 years behind. Look at market share, they cannot compete and are content with the old loyalty crowd.
Do you live under a rock? GM has outsold Ford in trucks the last 3 years straight and so far this year have widen the gap
Do pick up trucks have power adjustable pedals
Ford Lariat trim and above has power adjustable pedals.
It’s a pick up truck your missing the ooint
All I think about with this technology is how the truck can be disabled from a simple little thing that will break eventually. I don’t think we need it nor do I want it. Also, why don’t you start doing videos on all the recalls and reliability issues with these newer trucks. We could talk about Fords recalls or all the other issues. They are having with their engines and transmissions that they won’t recall. It’s not even get into Toyota and they’re blowing up engines and transmission and their tundras and Tacoma. Nobody wants these new twin turbo engines.
No one that I know who actually needs a truck buys a truck for the fuel economy. Just saying.
Anyone who only owns one vehicle and goes on frequent road trips when not towing has to think about fuel economy. I'm currently thinking about cutting back from two vehicles to one, and if I do, it will be an important consideration. The problem is, if you also tow a lot, these tiny 23 gallon fuel tanks in the GM and Ram 1/2 tons are a major pain point. I like the new 3.0L i6 in the Ram for towing power + non-towing mileage, but may end up getting a F150 just for the 36 gallon tank.
@@michaelramsey3643 my point is if you need a truck not want but need a truck. These little trucks that have no power range or towing ability are useless.
I have an F150 with a 36 gallon tank and to me it’s a no-brainer. Neither one of my Rams including my 2500 Cummins diesel had a tank this large and it’s very convenient.
I did. I'm big, 6'4" and I am confortable in a pick-up. I also need the utility of a pick-up for fetching seed and other feed. I also needed excellent fuel economy for the trips my wife and I take when we are not RVing. I settled in on a 2022 RAM ECODiesel. On a recent trip from Detroit to South Dakota and back through Duluth, a total of 2,600 miles, the ECODiesel averaged 32.6 MPG.
@@InLineDiesel6 ok so there is a niche!!!
@@InLineDiesel6 That's pretty impressive MPG. We did a very similar trip in our 2017 Outback 3.6. 2500+ miles traveling at 70-90 MPH for hours at a time. Two weeks at High Elevations. Averaged 25.3 MPG. (I thought we did well)
I don’t like the 12V socket, I prefer everything to be usbc
My trailer cam and e-cooler requires 12v. I use USB for my phones for Android Auto and charging. I use the 110 outlet to charge my TMPS monitor for the trailer because charging with USB is to slow.
I also tow obviously and the 5.3 in my Silverado just couldn't handle any hills with a smaller trailer much less the one I have now. BTW I have the tiny 2.7 v6 Ecoboost.
@@Grem135 maybe the usb problem today is their wattage supply, because it supports a lot like 140 watts, but manufacturer dont always deliver that
@@vfeuer9236 could be. When I used the truck USB the item would work but never seemed to charge much while in use. So I plugged in a fast charge phone charger and use it. Nice having 110 outlets.
You don’t drive city sir. I respect you but now way you understand city driving. Chicago here/
Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and DFW is absolutely city driving my friend. And I'm there quite often.
I hate wen Gm got rid of the 12 volt plugs. I like ford better than Gm. Ford still has the 12 volt plugs. The interior are nice. Thank you!
I have had from a 91 f150 to like 2000 Ford trucks and have like those so much. My dad had bought a 91 F-150 that was used but whoever bought a brand new special ordered it. I'm not a fan of I need a trucks from really the last 5 years I can't stand all the technology in them and to me all this power that they produces to me is fake power cuz it's all computer generated. I'd rather have a truck especially if it's for pawing just to have the very basic electronic items and not all these extra sensors and electrical components cuz that's all going to fail one day and they cost an arm and a leg to replace.
I drive a 2022 international 28 ft box truck for work and only 18,000 miles on it in the oil pressure sensor went out and the first year driving it when it got real cold in the Midwest I had to let it high idle for 5 or 10 minutes for the transmission to warm up just enough to move the truck 50 ft.
Had 2017 Ram 2500 was in shop all the time for lirrle things. The Cummins was great. Payload kon Ram 2500 sucks, no leaf springs only 1800 lb payload. I had it for three years and traded it in for what I paid so I was OK trailer for 2021 Chevy 3500 Duramax hi country, way better. Have not had one problem after three years.
FORD will always be ahead of the rest in features. They invented flat floor in the F150, first Aluminum body, first with On board Power. First EV Lightning ⚡ truck. When it comes to features / innovation you can't beat Ford....
Engineering and durability of Chevy/GM is just better than ford. As an example, the truck bed is significantly wider on Chevy.
Agree with truck bed size but this does not prove to be more durable
I’ve owned both over the years and it’s been my experience. I wasn’t nor am I intending to prove my opinion. Only sharing it.
@@molson62you made the statement, that it is better not me!
I have owned both and after owning the Silverado will not buy one or any GM again. Terrible reliability, and dealers never fixed anything under warranty. I haven't had a single issue in 7 years on the Ford and it tows so much better than the 5.3 in the Silverado. And WTH does GM not offer a large gas tank on their half ton trucks? Makes no sense.
@@Grem135must be why Ford has had the worst quality a reliability for four years straight and on their way to 5
Such a Ford homer. Totally forgets Ford doesn’t have auto 4wd like GM HDs and Ford now has fake front hubs. Ford still uses a CP4 fuel pump, the whole truck has a crazy amount of quality issues power steering leaks, ac compressors, HO motors, transmissions, and electrical issues just to name a few. Death wobble is still a problem with low miles. No rear camera mirror, rear seat in The ford is extremely uncomfortable because of the tall floor. Pano sunroof leaks and works for about 2 years and greatly reduces headroom. GM has a much bigger bed inside the fenders, Cameras are horrendous quality on the Ford compared to GM. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your Ford fan boy love
You know what I always heard, you put your money where your mouth is. I paid at or above MSRP for both my 2023 GMC Denali, as well as my 2024 Ford f-450 Platinum. I think both those purchases have earned me the right to give a fair and honest evaluation of both trucks as I see fit. Your comment however appears to contain loads of what you accuse me of, and that's being purely a fanboy of a brand. Everything I talked about in this video is my opinion based off of my personal experience as an owner of both trucks. I absolutely love the GMC, but the issues I have with it are personal issues that I feel many people likely struggle with. Ford's not perfect, far from it, but until I experience a problem that poses a significant issue for me using it as I want to use it, I have nothing negative to say about the truck YET. Being a die-hard fan of a brand is not a bad thing, but being fair and honest about how you use that brand and if your favorite brand poses problems or issues, that's where you need to be ethical.
@@BigTruckBigRV please let me know what in my comment is untrue.
Auto 4WD is nice but not a must-have. CP4 not an issue if you don't drive an emissions-choked diesel, but yeah, everyone knows you swap that out of your Ford asap and GM and Ram don't have that issue.
Death Wobble has been less and less of a problem as time has gone on. IFS has its own issues.
Cameras are definitely better in GM but it's not that big of a difference. They both suck at night.
The Duramax is about as solid as you can get for a diesel but GM gas engines have had a lot of issues (though not quite as many as Ford's).
Don't know about this lack of rear seat comfort due to high floor, I guess if you're 6'5" or something but I've had a broad range of people in the back seat of my Ford and no one's ever complained.
Transmission issues in Ford have been rare and the lifter/cam issues in the 7.3 were way overblow (kinda like the oil burning issues in the GM 6.6).
Ford seats are extremely way more comfortable and that's a big deal for me. Have heard people say the GM seats hold up better but I've never seen any evidence of that. Nothing online about people's Ford seats falling apart and needing to be replaced after 10 years or something.
Ford providing the larger fuel tank with the long bed is also a huge plus for me, especially with the gas engine.
Pano sunroof only leaks if you don't clean and take care of your truck. No widespread reports of issues with that.
Did I miss anything? You talk like GM hasn't had about as many issues as Ford has had, and that GM's feature set is miles above Ford's but that's simply not the case. All of these trucks are very close in overall quality and reliability, but for me, Ford had more of the features I was looking for, in particular for my use cases.
Funny that you accuse Big Truck of coming off as a Ford fanboy but you sound much more like a biased GM fanboy by comparison.
Thanks for this in depth essay, GM fan boy.