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  • @fishybrickfilms
    @fishybrickfilms ปีที่แล้ว +1568

    Time 2 of asking for “what if Tom Riddle got hired as the defense against the dark arts teacher”

    • @megellen5357
      @megellen5357 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That sounds awesome!

    • @tuw-001
      @tuw-001 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It would be chaos and Dumbledore would probably get overwhelmed- I love it tho

    • @Sky16198
      @Sky16198 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@megellen5357yes

    • @danoobking901
      @danoobking901 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yessss
      Wait he wouldn’t put the jinx for each next DADA teacher to not make it to next year, which is cool
      Edit: WHICH IS BAD CAUSE MOLDYMORT MIGHT STAY (quarrel)

    • @gothamwarrior
      @gothamwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@tuw-001It wouldn’t be chaos; it would be order constructed carefully by Voldemort.

  • @Kilthan2050
    @Kilthan2050 ปีที่แล้ว +752

    There’s a decent “what if” story. What if Snape had been able to set aside his dislike of James to truly mentor Harry.

    • @laha9372
      @laha9372 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That could have sped up things in the beginning, but made them more difficult when Voldemort is back, because he might not have trusted Snape. Much to unfold there!

    • @benvanderberg5321
      @benvanderberg5321 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@laha9372 I dont know if it would have necessarily would have had a huge difference in how Voldemort would perceive him. Book 1 Snape was told to watch out for Quirrell so he wouldn't have displayed as much emotion around him to harry. Book 4 He could easily play it off as helping him for the try wizard and book 6 say he could say he was opening his mind to allow him to more easily plant the department memories.

    • @Kilthan2050
      @Kilthan2050 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@laha9372 Book 3 could have been wildly different.

    • @hobbesnonumbers
      @hobbesnonumbers ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And/or Harry starts to trust Snape earlier especially before the end of OoP

    • @daanxbox360
      @daanxbox360 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes please!

  • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
    @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change ปีที่แล้ว +469

    Okay but the biggest twist was finally getting the final book, immediately turning to the last page to get a sneak peek and reading the words "Ginny kissed Albus good-bye" - like what in the fanfiction is this...oh wait...OH!

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      How many points does Gryffindor lose for that?

    • @Glitchtraptherabbit
      @Glitchtraptherabbit ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@coolnerdlll6053 As a slytherin I would say 1000000 BAGILLION TRILLION BILLION POINTS FROM A-GRRRRYFFFFFFFINDORRRRRRR

    • @gweniverebrown699
      @gweniverebrown699 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Honestly I do that all the time. If you’ve read the percy jackson books then you know that feeling and you scream at your self but you still do it with every book you read

    • @prabkunvar10
      @prabkunvar10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@Glitchtraptherabbit**OOHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO**

    • @QUEENOBSCURE
      @QUEENOBSCURE ปีที่แล้ว

      oh earn? lol @@coolnerdlll6053

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Seven times Harry Potter didn't know anything:
    1st movie: "I'm a wizard?!"
    2nd movie: "Tom Riddle is Voldemort?!"
    3rd movie: "I have a godfather?!"
    4th movie: "I've been tricked to bring back Voldemort?!"
    5th movie: "There was a prophecy?!"
    6th movie: "Snape is the Half-Blood Prince?!"
    7th movie: "Snape was good all along and I have to...what now?!!"

    • @lukeroberson2115
      @lukeroberson2115 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Harry Potter, the Boy Who Asked.

    • @Niyaaa2434
      @Niyaaa2434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@lukeroberson2115lmao🤣

  • @mbanerjee5889
    @mbanerjee5889 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    My favorite was learning that Tom Marvolo Riddle was an anagram; I remember stopping reading to rearrange the letters.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I just feel bad for all the foreign translations that had to change both phrases.

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@coolnerdlll6053 In the German translation they changed the Name Marvolo into Vorlost to make it work. Because of that it get's lost that all the Gaunts have Names with the first letter M.

    • @zer0skarI
      @zer0skarI ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@coolnerdlll6053 In Finnish translation, Voldemort's real name was changed to Tom Lomen Valedro

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤ true :)

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In French, his real name is Tom Elvis Jusedor (Je Suis Voldemort)

  • @darkkey19
    @darkkey19 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    I always thought the Sirius Black plot twist was the best of the series. Snape's loyalty was debated, with a lot of people going each way on which side he was on, but I always kind of guessed that Lily was the reason Snape and James hated each other. But I admit, the Moody/Barty Crouch Jr. is a really good twist too.

    • @grahamdamberger7130
      @grahamdamberger7130 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Snape felt that James took Lily away from him, then Snape called Lily the Wizarding World equivalent to a racial slur which angered both her and James. I bet Snape and James each wished that they faced each other during the first Wizarding War.

    • @zbanul10
      @zbanul10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes the book did a very good job on it. The movie kind of ruins it with the tongue thing

    • @zbanul10
      @zbanul10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or it could be interpreted as moody mocking crouch

    • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
      @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Barry Crouch was such a masterful twist because the whole time I was thinking it's either Karkaroff (obvious red herring), Bagman (being all shifty) or Snape (because I, like Harry, never trusted him, plus once we saw the dads of Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle, it was like aha they are death eaters). And then, Moody is Crouch Jnr? What???

    • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
      @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The beauty of the book was that the ambiguity around Barty's guilt and given Crouch Snr's reputation, I had genuine doubts about Barty being guilty but then the reveal was such a gut punch. This was totally lost in the movie when David Tennant pulled faces and basically confirmed Barty's guilt by flicking his tongue about.

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    One thing that Mad-eye imposter did was teach Harry to throw off the Imperius curse. I think he was fascinated that anyone could resist and just kept on going.

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It would make sense, since it took him months to really be able to resist it

    • @RichardRenes
      @RichardRenes ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think that Crouch jr actually wanted to imperius Harry through the tournament, but somehow Harry was able to break the curse quickly so Crouch/ Moody now had to get creative...

    • @tomcat124us
      @tomcat124us ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He was all excited that he was able to throw it off, which in the end he was able to throw off Riddle's Imperious Curse.

    • @fleetstreet11
      @fleetstreet11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tomcat124us "Potter fought it!....They'll have trouble controlling *you*!"

  • @coolnerdlll6053
    @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Maybe it's because I knew most of the big ones ahead of time, but my favorite twist might be Pettigrew being Scabbers. It's completely out of left field, but it does change a lot about the first two books.

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      sadly it opens the very questionable and never adressed plot hole that fred and george would´ve seen their brother ron every night in bed with peter

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@alexanderzack3720 The popular theory is that only the Marauders could see each other on the map, and I think Harry seeing Peter on it in the movies can be explained as him being descended from a Marauder.

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@coolnerdlll6053 yeah but that´s just the fans trying to explain it away. point is neither the movie nor the book ever adresses it

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@alexanderzack3720 As if that's the only plot hole in Harry Potter. I love this series, but you have to admit that it makes no sense.

    • @jackstrawful
      @jackstrawful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It also arguably makes the least sense, even aside from the whole Marauders Map thing - if Scabbers had been in the Weasley family for so long, why didn't anyone notice how abnormally old he was getting? Percy is 4 yrs older than Ron and rats typically only live 2-4 years, so when Ron was starting Hogwarts they should have been expecting him to die at any time - hardly appropriate to be sending him with Ron as his companion. By PoA, Scabbers would have been at least 6 yrs old which is nearly impossible, the oldest ever on record was 7. And the movie's even worse, saying he'd been with the Weasley's for 12 years - when i heard that the first time, it nearly ruined that whole climactic scene for me cuz i was so distracted thinking about it.

  • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
    @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Like you, I spent each book completely forgotting how twisty the previous book was. But nothing, nothing could beat "it's not Snape, it's Quirrel" twist of the first book. I remember 11 year old me 'sneak-peeking' to the next page and reading the words Quirrel and it was the best twist I had ever read (up until that point in my life).
    The Harry Potter books were genre bending in the sense that they were essentially mystery-thriller stories set in a fantasy world (that becomes fantasy dystopia in the latter part of the story).

  • @ObscurusBooks
    @ObscurusBooks ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The obvious plot twists aside, one of the biggest plot twists for me was that when tidying up all the rooms in Grimmauld Place in Order of the Phoenix, they found Slytherin's locket with Voldemort's horcrux without knowing what it really was: "a heavy locket that none of them could open" (p. 108). When I reread the series later, that reeaallly blew my mind!

    • @emankcin1701
      @emankcin1701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even better was the Ravenclaw Diadem in the Room of Requirement (book 6).

    • @LittleMinnow13
      @LittleMinnow13 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@emankcin17017*

  • @nathans9764
    @nathans9764 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The potion ingredients thing had a sub misdirect. Harry thought he was talking about the gillyweed Dobby stole and the boomslang skin Hermione stole in their second year. So he didn't put it together that someone ELSE was stealing boomslang skin.

    • @marielleadina8448
      @marielleadina8448 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It hits me every time!

    • @aceofspades9503
      @aceofspades9503 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I remember putting that one together when I first read it! "Wait! Its a more recent theft! Someone is not what they seem!"

  • @eef.4414
    @eef.4414 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I always thought that Barty Crouch Jrs reasoning for learning the students how to throw off an Imperius Curse is because he's been kept under it for so long. And somewhere something in me wants to believe that he doesn't want anyone to go through that, enemy or ally.

    • @boracicplague118
      @boracicplague118 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The thing about BCJ to me is the fact that NO ONE brings up the fact that he did the most demented thing in the books. Remember back to when Harry finds the pensive (don’t think I am spelling that right) and goes into the memory. He learns that BCJ goes to Azkaban for torturing Frank and Alice Longbottom to the point of making them go insane. Ok now go a couple of chapters back and realize that “Moody” uses the same curse in front of their child to torment him.

    • @DonDueed
      @DonDueed ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Alternatively, and more cynically, he could be ensuring that his students can never claim falsely to have been imperiused, since he would know they were capable of overcoming the curse.

    • @kaylapounds1359
      @kaylapounds1359 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think one of the reasons why Barty Jr took to Voldemort was because his father was never around or seemed to care.

    • @Keyboardje
      @Keyboardje ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He rejoiced in the fact his father was put under that same spell he had used on him. So he DID want someone to go through that.

    • @spin.chicken
      @spin.chicken ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, that part was just bad writing. You'd be surprised how often authors make stuff up as they go. There wasn't really any reason for BCJ to do any of that, honestly.

  • @samhollier6929
    @samhollier6929 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    My favourite twist was learning Harry was a horcrux the whole time, I thought it was the most painfully obvious thing, which I just did not see coming.
    Edit: spelling.

    • @w4n7iiYaScar
      @w4n7iiYaScar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this is also my personal number one

    • @THCthehempcloud
      @THCthehempcloud ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too, as a kid, that blew me away.

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By that time I had already lost any hope for Harry surviving his battle against Voldemort. Then when I read this information, it somewhat gave me confort and I thought "at least he won't die for nothing".

    • @aceofspades9503
      @aceofspades9503 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My cousin had heard this as a theory from the fan community at the time, before the last book was released. I thought he was nuts and told him so 🤣🤣

  • @HairyGhostbear
    @HairyGhostbear ปีที่แล้ว +78

    19:57 The reason boomslang (Dutch/Afrikaans for 'tree snake') hasn't come up in Fantastic Beasts is because it is a real animal. The ingredient is similar to things like 'the eye of a newt' or 'a frog's leg'.

    • @decent_random
      @decent_random ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Newt is in fantastic beasts though!!

    • @BaalsMistress
      @BaalsMistress 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@decent_randomThat really lends a different feel to "eye of newt" in a potion.

  • @matteoairaghi790
    @matteoairaghi790 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I wish I could cancel all my Harry Potter knowledge and experience the story again for the first time 😢

    • @susantindall8711
      @susantindall8711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol I have wished that for a long time too

    • @humanbeing4321
      @humanbeing4321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can’t believe Sirius was good!!!

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish I didn't know almost all of the spoilers before I was even into Harry Potter. I have a huge problem with that in general.

    • @Linkus9
      @Linkus9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coolnerdlll6053 ooooo, that sucks😬😬😬

    • @Dylana987654321
      @Dylana987654321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously though

  • @torreyrg42
    @torreyrg42 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a teacher myself, the subtext I took from half blood prince is summarized in a phrase I keep framed on my desk: “people do not learn from people they do not like”. (A gift from a mentor teacher)
    The Snape/Harry relationship is not a positive student teacher relationship. But when the identity and interaction of the teacher is removed, it is shown that Snape could be a good teacher. But even the best teachers are ineffective when they do not create a positive learning environment for their students.

  • @Rykiz_Vidz
    @Rykiz_Vidz ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I always loved how at the end of GoF, Dumbledore casually tells Harry "I'm afraid I've put you in great danger this year Harry. I'm sorry."
    Like ya Dumbledore, this is nothing new. You have literally thrown Harry head first into danger all 3 years prior as well, and continue doing so lol

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He knew Quirrell was never going to get the Stone. All of that was just putting Harry in danger for a laugh.

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Actually in the first two books, Harry was defying Dumbledore’s rules when he did dangerous things. In the third book, the only time Dumbledore really endangers Harry is when he sends Harry back in time to save Harry

    • @Rykiz_Vidz
      @Rykiz_Vidz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @matityaloran9157 Come on be real. Dumbledore knew almost every single thing Harry was doing each year at least in the first like 3 books. He literally set up traps/puzzles specifically for Harry and his friends lol. Not to mention letting a Medusa like SNAKE roam the halls killing students, and he knew Harry was going to end up fighting it that's why Dumbledore's freakin pet Phoenix came with the sword and hat to help him.
      Onto of that literally hiring THE worst defense against the dark arts teachers every single year (except Lupin, but he was still just as dangerous due to Anamagis).
      Like, I honestly coukd just keep going with examples on how Dumbledore deliberately threw Harry and Co. Into danger each yeah cause there's just so many examples.

    • @Rykiz_Vidz
      @Rykiz_Vidz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @matityaloran9157 The only explanation I will ever accept is why Dumbledore did that to Harry and his friends, was to prepare and test them because he had Harry's whole life planned out up to the fight against he who shall not be named.

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Rykiz_Vidz Dumbledore was outside of Hogwarts when Harry tried to retrieve the Philosopher’s Stone. Dumbledore hadn’t known the Chamber of Secrets had a Basilisk in it and Lucius Malfoy managed to drive Dumbledore out of Hogwarts. He did send Fawkes to help Harry after returning to the school because the Weasleys reached out to him to help Ginny. Dumbledore did send Harry back in time to save Sirius, Buckbeak and himself in Book 3 but I’ll not concede that for the first two books. (Though most of the dangerous things at Hogwarts in Book 3(e.g. Dementors) were because of the Ministry not Dumbledore.)

  • @mathmt5973
    @mathmt5973 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    8:37 when he took the test he got exceeds expectations which means while he wasn't the best, he was still good at potions.

    • @13vatra
      @13vatra ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If I recall correctly there's even a line somewhere, either during the OWLs or in 6th year, but Harry even mentioned that without Snape potions wasn't that hard. So he had a knack for it.

    • @kyellverdonschot9922
      @kyellverdonschot9922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@13vatraYeah it’s after Harry saw Snape in the Pensieve. Snape starts ignoring him and Harry is actually able to make potions
      But then Snape breaks it

    • @nickphaux
      @nickphaux หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@13vatra100%. If he didn't have the middle aged man bullying him because hes obsessed with him and his dead mother for 2 decades after she told him to leave her alone he wouldve excelled in potions probably.... I figure hed do very well in slughorns class even without the HBP book

  • @hufflepom
    @hufflepom ปีที่แล้ว +101

    There are SO many hints in HBP that Snape is "The Prince." He is CONSTANTLY saying that he's learned more from The Prince than he did from Snape. In the first potions lesson ever Snape asks Harry three questions. One is about the Draught of Living Death (which is the first potion that Slughorn has the class make and Snape's modifications help Harry make the best potion and win the Liquid Luck). Another question is about the Bezoar and once again a note from Snape in the margins mentions the Bezoar and saves Ron. Also why after FIVE YEARS of Snape writing out instructions (clearly because he has better tricks than the book) but all of the sudden the potion instructions come from the textbook. Less exciting (for me) is the levicorpus spell that we see James use on Snape in OotP and then "invents" in the margins of HBP (connecting Snape to the spell). This one bugs me because James uses it on Snape after their OWL (so fifth year) but Snape seems to have "invented" and did some troubleshooting for the spell in a year six textbook).

    • @kinga3731
      @kinga3731 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Also how didn't Harry recognise Snape's writing 😂

    • @AuthorZaraHoffman
      @AuthorZaraHoffman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kinga3731 right?!

    • @anastazis7901
      @anastazis7901 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      it seems the potion book belonged to Snape's mother, so he could read it and use it way before his sixth year

    • @duubiousdisc
      @duubiousdisc ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@kinga3731 your handwriting is definitely different when writing on a chalkboard with chalk then if you're writing as small as you can with quill in the little margins of a textbook. Also to the original comment my personal headcanon is that he wrote it down because james keeps using it on him, so that he could develop a counterjinx which i believe is also written in the margins of the textbook, but i have read it in a while and i heard it from somewhere else

    • @AuthorZaraHoffman
      @AuthorZaraHoffman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anastazis7901 Yes. I was going to say he probably had access to it early.

  • @archiethomas3911
    @archiethomas3911 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i think the mystery around the whole diary, who riddle is and that ginny opened the chamber was a massive twist. the entire time other culprits are set up so you gloss over ginny also, they mentioned that the family left items at home and the hid ginnys diary in the list so you don't pay attention to it plus the reveal that tom riddle and voldemort are the same people is crazy because you don't really think about voldemort being a person. i think it works because it turns what we think are two separate issues and reveals them to be the same.

  • @armedkevin1178
    @armedkevin1178 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    8:08 In other words, Snape can actually be a good teacher if he doesn't hate his student's guts?

  • @grahamdamberger7130
    @grahamdamberger7130 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    The reveal of the Heir of Slytherin and the reveal of Harry being one of Voldemort's horcruxes were among some of the other major plot twists that were hinted at throughout the series. How else can Harry and Voldemort see through each other's minds?

    • @piotrszkudlarek6597
      @piotrszkudlarek6597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Magic xd

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, this connection between "I am Lord Voldemort" and "Tom Marvolo Riddle" killed me... I then wondered "How did a decent looking human being end up so monstrous looking as Voldemort had been described in book one?"
      Also I was deeply puzzled by the fact, that Harrys ability to speak to snakes was actually a bad baad sign and that Harry and Voldemort were somewhat linked due to what happened the night Lilli sacrified herself.

    • @harpieahouse6246
      @harpieahouse6246 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, the fact that GINNY WEASLEY was the one opening the chamber all this time... that was brilliant.

  • @mikna5758
    @mikna5758 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't wanna be that guy, but... You forgot the "Ginny opened the chamber of secrets". It's a massive twist within the book and you find it out AFTER she's taken to the Chamber!!!

  • @alexanderzack3720
    @alexanderzack3720 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    the deciding difference between snape the bad potion teacher and the half-blood-prince being the good teacher is their attitude towards harry. snape as a person uses every single opportunity to belittle, insult and torment harry which results in harry being unwilling to listen to anything snape says even when snape is telling important information. meanwhile the book is just giving the information and the advice making harry far more willing to listen

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup, and Harry not listening to Snape just makes Snape do it all the more, creating a positive feedback loop

    • @chrisconcannon6490
      @chrisconcannon6490 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was my thinking too. No matter how effective the notes were, if Harry had learned much earlier that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince, I don't think he would have been able to use it again without hearing Snape's voice reading it. That would have put him off it pretty quickly. He'd probably tell Hermione to burn it rather than hiding it in the RoR.

    • @aceofspades9503
      @aceofspades9503 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not just Snape's attitude toward Harry, but his attitude in general- the guy was a horrid bully to all his students. I mean, he is literally Neville's greatest fear, and that's really twisted.

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aceofspades9503 one of the biggest reasons that I say he is not a good guy

    • @rubygracemoseley8144
      @rubygracemoseley8144 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oooh! That’s so true and such a good point

  • @1Mystery10000
    @1Mystery10000 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great list. I would add Tom Riddle being Voldemort in book 2 and Ginny opening the Chamber of Secrets.
    But book 4 is definitly the best plottwist. Actually it is mentioned that Boomslang skin was for the polyjuice potion but Harry thought that Snape talked about 2 years ago when Hermione stole it. Great way to give a hint (like Dobby mentioning that Mcgonagall and Moody talked about the 2nd task.) Perfect twist

  • @nathans9764
    @nathans9764 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    An interesting twist that never gets addressed is Pettigrew's power. Everyone is scared of Sirius for killing 13 people with one curse. What power! And they talk about how oeter was slow and weak. But Peter actually did the remarkable bit AND was faster than Sirius. He also outsmarted him in the moment so witnesses would blame sirius.
    You mentioned Barty Jr. As the most successful death eater, but it was really Peter. He handed voldy members of the order for a year, gave him the potters, and even managed to get another order member imprisoned when voldy failed. He set himself up to be able to rejoin if voldy came back. Took down Moody alongside barty, and resurrected voldy. But for some reason everyone thinks hes incompetent.

  • @dmidkif
    @dmidkif ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Never caught it that when Harry’s scar started hurting, he was staring at the back of Quirrell’s turban, I.e right at Voldemort

  • @marshaanderson2677
    @marshaanderson2677 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I just re-read the HP books to my grandkids. When I read the last chapter in the book (not the epilogue), it really made more sense that Harry was the master of the Elder Wand. The wand chooses the wizard. He also was able to use it to repair his own wand. This book was so much better than the movie.

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว

      True 👍

    • @aceofspades9503
      @aceofspades9503 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Personal theory of mine is that part of the power of the elder wand transferred itself to Harry's repaired wand, and that's what allowed it to actually be repaired at all. The elder wand itself was then weakened in power, becoming less dangerous. So Harry the Auror a few years down the line would be a powerful wizard who was the master of an unusually powerful wand. I was also REALLY hoping that the series would continue following Harry Potter as he and his friends solved magical murder mysteries for the ministry of magic as adults.

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are right. If the series show them as adults I might like it. 👍
      My boggart is to see them try to make a remake of the franchise with Hermione, Ron and Harry as kids... it would be ridiculous :)

  • @Fribee83
    @Fribee83 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why does the thumbnail look like it was made with AI?

    • @matthewmatthew981
      @matthewmatthew981 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no artists credited in the description, so it definitely was. That and its details are unusually inconsistent, like the highlights in his eyes.

  • @ThroughTheLensOfAutism
    @ThroughTheLensOfAutism ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If “Harry and Snape put aside their differences they could have been a great team”, something that I thought of in the final chapter of Book One.

  • @Leviticus_Prime
    @Leviticus_Prime ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If Harry would actually pay attention in potions class, He wouldn't have needed the book to tell him to use a beezor. That is literally one of the first things snape ever taught him in class.

    • @neilfan1016
      @neilfan1016 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i probabaly wouldn’t remember that if i learnt it in the first ever lesson

    • @spin.chicken
      @spin.chicken ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Going from a non-magic lifestyle to a magic lifestyle would almost be like learning a new language. Even if it's on the first day, as a kid it's going to be particularly tricky and not everyone is going to be able to do it.
      However, for me, if I lived a decade without magic and finally discovered magic. I would be THOROUGHLY studying my textbooks because that would be sick.

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree on that :) I also would be studying and testing magic all day.

    • @brunette3cookie
      @brunette3cookie ปีที่แล้ว

      Hermione said the same thing in the book

    • @The_Worst_Guy_Ever
      @The_Worst_Guy_Ever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even if he was paying attention, remembering something you learned in your first class 5 years ago is unlikely

  • @culturedsquid8442
    @culturedsquid8442 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The craziest thing about Barty Crouch Jr. taking Moody's place is that he actually has everyone fooled, and he plays Moody to perfection, and for some reason he is one of the most effective teachers Harry ever had.

  • @TheOnlyCatana
    @TheOnlyCatana ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Dude you guys are some of my favorite TH-camrs. Thanks for making more Harry Potter vids! ❤

  • @katholmes7112
    @katholmes7112 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Moody/Crouch using unforgivable curses on students is another black mark against Dumbledore. Even if Dumbledore didn't realize this was an imposter, no way with how the students gossipped that he didn't know this guy was subjecting students to unforgivables. Meaning, he allowed children to be imperiused and allowed Neville to be psychologically tortured with a visual demonstration of what was done to his parents.

    • @boracicplague118
      @boracicplague118 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes yes yes I love this comment. But I want to take it a step further. Not only was Neville tormented with the same curse that affected his parents BUT ALSO by one of the people that did THAT torturing. 😮😳🤯

    • @katholmes7112
      @katholmes7112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EXACTLY!

    • @riluna3695
      @riluna3695 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You can make the case that, however messed up the demonstrations were, they were still important. Dumbledore moved up the lessons from the normal year 6 to year 4, because with Pettigrew on the loose, there was a genuine threat of Voldemort returning _soon_ (which he does). So showing the kids, particularly Harry, what they're up against is a tragic necessity for them to be prepared to, y'know....Defend themselves Against the Dark Arts. Particularly practicing breaking the Imperius curse. Each one student who can do that might potentially save several lives each.
      Doesn't mean it was a perfectly wholesome decision, by any means. But when the bad guys are bringing horrors down upon your head no matter what, it's better to teach people self-defense than to just leave them to the (were-)wolves.
      Just another instance of Dumbledore making a rough decision for the greater good. Guess he never really got over that habit.

    • @katholmes7112
      @katholmes7112 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @riluna if you were a parent of a child would you care what his reasoning was or would you demand the loss of his job at the very least? I'd be demanding his head on a platter. But Dumbledore has no problems using kids. Most people don't realize that Fleur's hostage for the second task, her baby sister Gabrielle was actually close to being a baby. She was only eight years old and he stuck her underwater in freezing temps. My mom would've skewered him for that.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb ปีที่แล้ว

      The students may be gossiping, but would they be gossiping _with the headmaster?_ Seems very unlikely.

  • @misterwub1438
    @misterwub1438 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Moody plot twist is one that always fascinated me. But more on the side of Harry became friends with the fake Moody because of his "help", so how is there not any awkwardness when he is with the real Moody? Especially in the battle of the 7 Potters. Just always thought that was weird how out of all the people there, he was the one who knew Harry the least amount of time and had the same amount of pride as everyone else who knew Harry for many years at that point.

    • @1Mystery10000
      @1Mystery10000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He knew him as much as Kingsley or Mundungus I would say, so it's not that weird in my eyes.

    • @misterwub1438
      @misterwub1438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1Mystery10000 yeah true, I didn't really think about them

    • @kaylapounds1359
      @kaylapounds1359 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention he knew James and Lily, so he probably based it off knowing them.

    • @NeverKissSomeFrog123
      @NeverKissSomeFrog123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And he as a great auror with deep knowledge about magic realized Harry was important in the war

  • @TheDrexLord
    @TheDrexLord ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I think we can all agree that a prince's tale is one of the best moments in all of Harry Potter and it's my favorite scene in the movies

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DHP2 has all my favorite scenes from across the movies - the Gringotts heist, Harry yelling at Snape, the bridge explosion, the Prince's Tale, the Forest, King's Cross, Harry dueling Voldemort and of course the epilogue, one of my favorite scenes in movie history.

    • @vallentinac9513
      @vallentinac9513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      definitely my favorite chapter out of all the books, but i didn't really think they did a great job in the movie

    • @hansgrundberg6839
      @hansgrundberg6839 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. However , it would have taken at least 25-30 min to cover it all and you don't have that time in a movie. Though, they should have included "For him!", that would have made it much clearer
      @@vallentinac9513

  • @laha9372
    @laha9372 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nonono, don't start asking, if Snape cared more about Harry than Dumbledore. It was killing Dumbledore, that Harry had to die, because he honestly cared for him, but when he asked Snape, if he stared to care for Harry and Snape asked: "him??!?!?" and sent the patronus in answer. He does not care for Harry, it's all about Lily.
    That's also why I don't like the importance of "Always" in the fandom, because it's in context to this...

  • @Bryan-gy2zu
    @Bryan-gy2zu ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think we need SCB to make a video about Barty Crouch Jr. surviving GoF. They've convinced me how big of a threat he was in the books and I wanna see how much more trouble he could've caused.

    • @brickbot2.038
      @brickbot2.038 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, my favorite Death Eater! He did some of Voldemort's most important work but didn't get any compensation throughout the rest of the series.
      People like to talk about how Bellatrix was Voldemort's most loyal, totally disregarding Barty. He literally says himself that Voldemort was almost a father figure to him.
      Actually, that would be a fun plot point in this What-If scenario: Bellatrix and Barty continuously one-upping eachother for Voldemort's favor.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว

      Without him, Voldemort wouldn't come back, Cedric wouldn't have died and Harry wouldn't have had the golden flame protection, learned to fight off Unforgivable Curses, learned a bunch of useful spells because of the Tournament, become an Auror or given Voldemort his blood to create the Lovecrux. Barty deserves a lot of credit.

  • @sifatshams1113
    @sifatshams1113 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Finding out that Snape was in love with Lily has to be one of the most satisfying reveals ever mainly BECAUSE it seems so mind-blowingly obvious in retrospect. It takes a particular kind of genius to be able to pull off something like that.

    • @spin.chicken
      @spin.chicken ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ehhhhhh. Hard disagree on that one. Doesn't take any kind of genius, nor is it really all that clever or sensible.

    • @jujunorman4695
      @jujunorman4695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I felt I already knew. Same with Petunias jealousy. Was surprised that it was meant to be a surprise.

    • @phenixorbitall3917
      @phenixorbitall3917 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well I disagree with what you just said. I think she had a very good point. I did not suspect anything like that to happen and it is satisfying, because it shows that love has always been the greatest wappen against evil. Love pushed Snape to repent and love gave Snape the courage to stick to his roles no matter what: The love Snape felt for Lily ultimately was the key to win against the Dark Lord.

  • @DabzWaz33
    @DabzWaz33 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I honestly feel so robbed that I didn't read the books until recently. The movies came out when I was younger so I just watched them, but reading the books this past year has been amazing I can only imagine what it would have been like reading them as they came out

    • @jenniedarling3710
      @jenniedarling3710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was great, no spoilers and there were a lot of stories about the last chapter being kept in safe somewhere.

    • @timothyhammer6154
      @timothyhammer6154 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I believe there was even a case where someone stole a book, I forget which one, before it was published, and tried to sell it. Maybe it was Order or Half Blood Prince.

  • @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
    @tasmiatahia_write_dream_change ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Side note, if I was J's "mortal enemy from high school". I would be cringing so hard because imagine this:
    "You went to school with J from SCB? How cool!"
    "Yeah, that, umm...he was kindamymortalenemy".

  • @zackatk77
    @zackatk77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prisoner Of Azkaban was a genius book for misdirects and major reveals that really wowed readers. It's earned its place as my favourite in the series for good reason.

  • @hey_mickey1981
    @hey_mickey1981 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can’t say the same about any of the other twists in the series…but I totally saw the Snape being in love with Lily twist coming after the Snape’s Worst Memory chapter.
    The fact that it was his “worst” memory made no sense otherwise because presumably he and the Marauders had many similar encounters. It was her inclusion that clearly made it different.
    Also, it made the fact that he hated the very site of Harry (who looked liked James) make more sense. He didn’t like Lupin but treated him with much less disgust. When it came to Sirius, they both still had a lot of animosity towards each other. But why harbor so much hate for someone that already suffered an untimely death? Well, you would if that someone married the girl you were in love with. He also semi-blames James for him losing Lily’s friendship. Although, deep down he knows his own actions were to blame for that and for her death. Which is why he devotes the remainder of his life to protecting her son and taking down Voldemort.

  • @FifthPromise
    @FifthPromise ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about the fact that the obviously brilliant young charming wizard Lockheart was... a fraud?!

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, that one was _Pretty Obvious_ from the beginning

    • @wyattstevens8574
      @wyattstevens8574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has a video about how 2 potential Obliviate victims would work: Seamus's mom for banshees (the form the boggart takes in front of him) and Quirrell for vampires/hags/trolls (the latter would make more sense if it wasn't right before Lockhart started teaching there- maybe Obliviate was sort of why he acted weird)

  • @RodrickMarsMoon
    @RodrickMarsMoon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's be honest about the twist in Goblet of Fire: the movie ruined it by showing Barto Jr. alibe and active on the plot since the very first scene. And the tongue tick both him and Alastor had. It was more of a matter of "when the movie will reveal" instead of "WHAAAT?!!"
    The movie should've taken lessons from the first Saw movie in how to present a great twist on screen: hold every take to show in a series of sequences with additional frames to "ooh 🙀!!!", but, yeah, Newell isn't much of a fan of the book, right?

    • @samhollier6929
      @samhollier6929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don't talk about the 4th film. Waste of David Tennant.

  • @Ben-jk4fy
    @Ben-jk4fy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Question: in goblet of fire, Harry and Moody (BCJr) really seemed to bond well, why in the following book/movies did Harry and the real Moody seem to maintain that bond?

    • @DonDueed
      @DonDueed ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I noticed that too. I can see how Harry would feel as if he knew Moody well (even though he didn't), but there was no reason for Moody to feel any connection to any of the students.

    • @auroramichael1110
      @auroramichael1110 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It may have been because he knew Harry’s parents. Even though he didn’t know Harry personally, he may have felt at ease with him knowing his role in the prophecy and have fought along side his parents

    • @StarryEyed0590
      @StarryEyed0590 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@auroramichael1110 And Harry acts more at ease with him than most people he meets because Harry has the illusion of already knowing him, which then prompts Moody, who already is disposed to like and respect him, to treat him as if they do have a bond.

  • @roburban7434
    @roburban7434 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There's actually an unused take of Draco throwing Harry his wand at the final battle, almost exactly like you described [7:05]

  • @RuyLopezTheSicilian
    @RuyLopezTheSicilian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here's a what if: what if Lockhart got incapacitated after the pixie incident (yes, his first day), and Dumbledore brought in a disguised and magically monitored Grindelwald as DADA professor?

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, that would be too much lol

  • @zb7608
    @zb7608 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    J, you asked why boomslangs didn’t come up in “Fantastic Beasts”. I think it is because they are not fantasy, they are very real venomous snakes in Southern Africa. The word boomslang is “tree snake” in Afrikaans.

  • @Raven09s
    @Raven09s ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Harry learned what a bezoar was the first day in potions in first year. When he uses a bezoar to save Ron, that's the connection I always made to how he remembered it. Because it was his first actual interaction with Snape that set the tone for their entire relationship in Harry's eyes.

  • @DavidRay39
    @DavidRay39 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Prediction for #1: Snape is a good guy.

  • @dannyfandoms1
    @dannyfandoms1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved how these plot twist always got me! never saw them coming! and learning all the clues that pointed to the twist over time was another thing that made me love the series!

  • @Anniebellpotter
    @Anniebellpotter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want a what if barty Crouch Junior hadn’t at the end of goblet of fire!!!!

  • @Chikararyoku
    @Chikararyoku ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the plot twist for me; Draco, arrogant, self absorbed, blood purist, pain in the tucus, Malfoy, the guy you love to hate; seeing him cry in book six, actually afraid, I surprised myself feeling sympathy for him

    • @aceofspades9503
      @aceofspades9503 ปีที่แล้ว

      And when MOANING MURTLE winds up being his sympathetic ear- its like the most unlikely pair ever.

    • @Chikararyoku
      @Chikararyoku ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aceofspades9503 true. I believe even Harry describes it as such

  • @wordsmith6154
    @wordsmith6154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While you named a bunch of good ones (especially including the ENTIRE plot of Prisoner of Azkaban, as that's my favorite book and movie of the bunch), you did skip my personal favorite. As a romantic, I personally love seeing the different romantic relationships come together. One of my favorite plot twists, which they left out of the 6th movie, is how Harry and the others suspected Tonks had a crush on Sirius and she was depressed because he died. However, in reality, she was in love with Lupin, who kept on rejecting her feelings.

  • @davidfitzpatrick6535
    @davidfitzpatrick6535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:31 yeah I remember when I was in grade 6 Half blood prince was quite popular book discussion and I had to wait about six months due tp the public library and my school library all not having copies so i literally had to avoid the conversations and I was still shocked (and vindicated as I didnt like snape) when Snape killed Dumbeldore only to find out in the next book that it was all pre planned. Literally when I read that I yelled "Wait WHAT??" which my sister asked "what's wrong?" not realizing I was reading.

  • @horimo8920
    @horimo8920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry didn't physically wrestle the Elder wand out of Draco hand, he disarmed him in the room of requirement. Mr. Brothers made a little oopsie. Also, this all took place in book seven not book six.

    • @mgjmiller1995
      @mgjmiller1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, a mish-mash of these two thoughts: Harry wrestled Draco's wand from Draco in Malfoy Manor.

    • @horimo8920
      @horimo8920 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mgjmiller1995 yeah I wanted to include that in there but decided against it.

  • @stanivincke7889
    @stanivincke7889 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    SCB, you should make a short about Snape being Harry's worst and best teacher, starting at 8:11 to 8:50.
    Just a hilarious part of the video, well done!

  • @akitaho1
    @akitaho1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first book had the beginning of the next chapter at the opposite page to the previous one, I still remember really wanting to stop after that chapter - but I snuck a glance 😅 couldn't stop reading after this. Probably your dad did something similar

  • @adamrabe3105
    @adamrabe3105 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We got the "Troll in the Dungeon Clip" - classic. Was hoping J would play "Thought you Outta Know" with the reveal of Quirrel. If only. Three cheers for J sliding from side to side with long winded phrases. Does anyone else think that J and Ben should record a HP theory song in the same vane as The Pixar Theory. Ethan could compose the music of course.

  • @jordanpoole3006
    @jordanpoole3006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best ending: the only things that actually happened were Harry’s mother’s screams. Harry wakes up in the hammock in his parents back yard. She’s hollared for him to come inside a few times now. He yells “coming mom” To PETUNIA! He sits at the set table where his dad (Vernon) gives him an admiring grin. “Nodded off in the garden again, son?” Harry grins back. Dudley laughs and gives His brother a friendly elbow to the side.

  • @JackAttack7
    @JackAttack7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favorite is Snapes memories revealing he is infact a good guy. The movies did well at making his memories emotional and making you feel sympathy for him.

  • @qBeYcarpet
    @qBeYcarpet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad read Harry Potter to me and my brother as well. Can't remember any details though, except we didn't get beyond chamber of secrets because I was too young in my parents' opinion :D

  • @RodrigoMAOEE
    @RodrigoMAOEE ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Try to not use AI for your thumbnails in the future! Love your content

  • @Daddyoh94
    @Daddyoh94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also Alan Rickman was perfect, but Snape was only supposed to be like 30 when Harry went to Hogwarts, wasn't he?

  • @bklothis5502
    @bklothis5502 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please stop using ai in your thumbnail or anywhere. I would rather you do anything else. I'm gonna dislike videos with ai images until this trend stops

  • @bsperoz
    @bsperoz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:24 It makes Sense though BECAUSE if the elder wand KNOWS about that, it won't trust Draco to hold on to IT.

  • @GummyBear556677
    @GummyBear556677 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey SCB, please don’t use AI “art” for anything but obviously your thumbnail’s. It is widely known that AI takes “influence” from actual artists and already made works making it plagiarism. Love what y’all do

    • @catapultato1733
      @catapultato1733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everyone takes influence from actual artists, including human artists. the problem comes when people use ai art as a way to replace actual artists. if they'd been using human artists to do their thumbnails previously (and especially if they'd been paid) then using ai art would be a problem, but I don't think they do

    • @matthewmatthew981
      @matthewmatthew981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@catapultato1733 Influence and Derivitation without citation is plagiarism, no matter if you're taking someone's work directly as a human or as an AI training program. Their description should have a citation for where they got the artwork regardless of whether it's real or AI generated.

    • @matthewmatthew981
      @matthewmatthew981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@catapultato1733Though rereading your responses I'm guessing you could have told me that yourself.

    • @catapultato1733
      @catapultato1733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewmatthew981 yeah, i understand what you're saying. to be honest I'm kind of unsure

  • @kevindalby520
    @kevindalby520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always wonder how the movies would have played out if Richard Harris didn't die after the second movie.

    • @jessicamarino7448
      @jessicamarino7448 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do think he was the better Dumbledore. I wonder how he would have chosen to evolve Dumbledore through the series.
      He starts off perfectly as the soft-spoken character of wonder. Dumbledore became so much more than that over time.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your HP videos guys! Its what made me a fan of yours🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

  • @charleslee8313
    @charleslee8313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luke's first day in kindergarten. I'm guessing J was thinking: Where will Luke be sorted?

  • @eshedyson6458
    @eshedyson6458 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Moody plot twist was insane! Barty was sooo convincing and you just didn't even think that he was something to worry about until after the reveal 😮

  • @gabrielleanastasia7
    @gabrielleanastasia7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prisoner of Azkaban has always stood out as the most twisty turny to me! But Snape actually being a good guy was probably the biggest Whhhhaaaaat!

    • @kaylapounds1359
      @kaylapounds1359 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first half definitely had that imo. But I feel like it's because we the readers were still learning about all the major players and purposes.

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a kid, in HP1 Snape NOT being the evil guy had my mind blown 😅

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a surprise for me too but what struck me even more was the fakt, that Quirrel shared his body with Voldemort in that way.

  • @rubygracemoseley8144
    @rubygracemoseley8144 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh yeah. Snape killing Dumbledore was SHOCKING!! I remember when I first read that scene I was just like….how? HOW COULD DUMBLEDORE OF ALL PEOPLE GET KILLED? Like I thought Harry would die before Dumbledore would! I was so shocked!!

  • @favour911
    @favour911 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really disappointing you guys are using AI for your thumbnails :( that program took work from real artists that would've appreciated the commission

  • @HistoryBluff137
    @HistoryBluff137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read the books as a kid so a lot of the twists got me. But I loved listening to Potterless. Loved hearing him predict what happens in the first 2 books, gets excited he predicted it, and then depressed when he remembered they were books for 11-year-olds and he was an adult with a degree in engineering lol

  • @jacobnavarro3675
    @jacobnavarro3675 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please reconsider your use of AI software in making your thumbnails. Your channel has a decent integrity about it and I know you guys are sensitive to divisive issues mucking up your good vibes. If you do decide to continue to use AI for the channel, maybe you could put out a short (or not so short) video about the topic and explain your decision? And if you're not up to date on the issue, use this as an opportunity to look into it because it's a potential cause for fans to unsub. There's at least one person in the comments here that's claiming to do just that. Also, since most of your subs are younger people, letting them hear about the issue through your unique style would be a really positive way to spread awareness about it.

    • @matthewmatthew981
      @matthewmatthew981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would agree with everything you said except for an idea of them making a video explaining their stance, ALL it does is turn their entire channel into a battleground for the loudest voices in the debate. And we don't need another video about the justifications of AI art anymore, viewers have way more of it to watch elsewhere.

  • @QueenCityDad10
    @QueenCityDad10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a book analyzing Snape throughout the 7 books and I highly recommend you all check it out. It's amazing and totally changed my view on snape

    • @aumathewarriormouse2549
      @aumathewarriormouse2549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Snape: A Definitive Reading by Lorrie Kim, yeah it is *fantastic* and EVERYONE needs to read this!!!

  • @crunchysalmons
    @crunchysalmons ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is that AI art?? i mean i don’t expect much from disney adults but cmon u know you’re not supposed to use AI “art”

  • @Aquilla842
    @Aquilla842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am amazed Ludo Bagman owning half of the eel farm wasn’t on the list as like 6 or 7

  • @Leviticus_Prime
    @Leviticus_Prime ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The plot twist where it's revealed that Voldemort loves wearing muggle suits when he makes Harry see random images of himself in full businesswear at kings cross.

  • @geminiflame_
    @geminiflame_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I could just read these books all over again, like forget I read them at all and start again...I would give anything😭😭

  • @laralukic-nh8zk
    @laralukic-nh8zk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always feel for Voldy, it makes me sad. maybe it is because I am also a narcissist like Voldemort who wants to live forever and an outsider who hates people and if Tom Riddle's story was supposed to give me hope to become great I just see how he was defeated. Complete nonsense as if of all dark wizards the one who had seven horcruxes would lose to a teenager..

  • @chefRyan38
    @chefRyan38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Snape was a fantastic teacher, he would do something dramatic and attention grabbing right before imparting important information, I bet most of the class there on day 1 remember what and where to find a bezor

  • @rubygracemoseley8144
    @rubygracemoseley8144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah….Barry Crouch Jr. was probably the biggest plot twist. I remember when I first read it I was just….WHAT THE HECK IS HAPPENING?! It was so disturbing and dramatic. It was such a well written and clever plot twist! It was amazing! I was 1. Shocked but also 2. It was so well done and “Moody” was so convincing!! Dang!! So good!

  • @aaronnewsom6886
    @aaronnewsom6886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a quick thought, so what if Voldemort giving drako the job and drako getting the elder wand was a twist of the “he will make him his equal, and give him powers to vanquish the dark lord” or something like that

  • @DonDueed
    @DonDueed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The glaring omission on your list is the death of Dumbledore itself -- never mind who did it. I suppose that makes sense, though. I know I wasn't terribly surprised by it, but I was reading the books as an adult and was familiar with the hero's journey trope in mythology, which commonly includes the hero losing his mentor and guide. But I can at least imagine that Dumbledore's death would come as a shock to younger readers.

  • @fandombuilds6701
    @fandombuilds6701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn’t there a deleted scene from the films, we here in the last film Draco tosses his wand to Harry.
    Was that not in the books? I dont remember?
    But that sounded like what J mentioned about 6 mins in :/
    Here is the video I’m referencing:)
    th-cam.com/video/1p2Iu8LUX1Y/w-d-xo.html
    Luv you guys!

  • @lilbrownbear
    @lilbrownbear ปีที่แล้ว +2

    james being a bully is an underrated plot twist if you can call it that.

  • @Ancient_Road
    @Ancient_Road ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While reading the 6th book I thought the half blood prince was for sure Voldemort. Great twist

  • @arinerm1331
    @arinerm1331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I simply can't forgive the moviemakers for Goblet of Fire. They missed so much because, it seems, they were trying to keep the budget down. It's a bit pricey to do house elves, but Winky was a **MAJOR** plot point in that story, and Ludo Bagman was quite necessary, as well. There was a bit more skimping in later movies, but we got bonus Dobby in Deathly Hallows, and bonus stretchy-face falling, but no taunting of Riddle from Harry!

  • @HunterX05
    @HunterX05 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Draco disarmed Dumbledore, Draco is now master of the Elder Wand. Harry disarmed Draco, Harry is now master of the Elder wand. Voldemort kills Harry, Harry is still master of the Elder Wand?
    Yeah, Resurrection Stone, but Tom Riddle factually killed the previous master of the Elder Wand and didn't garner it's allegiance.

  • @markmarkel5120
    @markmarkel5120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done enjoyed your l break down of each of the seven. Great series, with the best hidden twist. This why she wrote the ending first. So she could go back and reveal it all over seven books. Fill in each Horcrux

  • @TheHeartlessAlchemist
    @TheHeartlessAlchemist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite movie is Prisoner of Azkhaban, and now I'm reading the book and it's probably gonna be my favorite book too.

  • @rubygracemoseley8144
    @rubygracemoseley8144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Ah! I just love being manipulated! Ha-Wait” That was a beautiful, hilarious J moment

  • @GlossyAngels_001
    @GlossyAngels_001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (You better do this or I will report this in the daily profit)”What if Rita Skeeter (beautiful,amazing,clever,famous,kind,caring, cute,funny,lovely,etc) was the minister for magic?”

  • @kayleighlehrman9566
    @kayleighlehrman9566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't agree with the notion that Harry was absolutely awful at potions before HBP and Snape's old book. The entire reason he got the book in the first place was because he was accepted into NEWT level potions classes under Slughorn, and Harry got EE on his potions OWL

  • @brownie7885
    @brownie7885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just listening to the first few chapters of goblet of fire while on a walk and a what if popped into my head...in harrys dream he hears bertha jorkens was killed but when he wakes up can't remember her name but then while at dinner with the weasleys before the world cup percy starts talking about her being missing to arthur....What if that jogged harry's brain and he told Mr. Weasley what his dream was about. My thought of him doing this would be a bit out of character because he liked his secrets but the sudden realization of the name could be enough to say something that would make Mr. Weasley or ron or hermonie question him...maybe Hermonie and Ron would push him to tell someone like sirius or dumbledore IDK just a thought

  • @EdwardSegalLegend
    @EdwardSegalLegend ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's amazing how many of these the movies managed to screw up (revealing Barty Crouch Jr. way too early, making the reveal of the Half-Blood Prince seem unimportant, etc.)