Order of the Phoenix became my favorite book not for normal reasons, nah it became my favorite because everyone, including the teachers, HATED Umbridge with such passion that it made chapters such as Career Advice, absolutely iconic. Sprout giving Harry points for "passing over a pot", McGonagall telling Peeves how to unscrew the light thing properly, and Flitwick letting the firecrackers go off because "he did not know if he had permission", were all such great touches to add to the story that made it so funny before it got sad. It was a good balance. I also love McGonagall's determination to make Harry an Auror simply because Umbridge said he couldn't, as well as the iconic line "have a biscuit Potter". The students also were great but the teacher's made it for me.
Don't forget the best part of OotP, it introduces the last member of the silver trio, the better trio, Luna Lovegood. Seriously can we get a new version of book 7 told from the silver trio's perspective. That would be awesome.
I was a bit baffled when, while describing Peter's transgressions, you missed that teency weency instance of Peter committing mass murder. Seriously, he slaughtered thirteen people with one spell just to make a getaway. It reinforces that Peter was both far more talented than most people realised (he was a Marauder) and also far more brutal. We've never heard of anyone else killing so many people with one spell before or after. His weak character concealed a man who was just as twisted and evil as any other Death Eater. And the most awful thing about it? He became that man while growing up with James, Sirius and Remus. He saw them bullying Severus and he liked it. He was attracted to the charisma and power of James and Sirius who never encouraged Peter to stop fawning over them, resulting in Peter's attraction to an even more powerful wizard Over time, Peter became a murderous monster and his closest friends never noticed. Dark, huh?
Was it officially confirmed it was only 1 spell? I don't remember too well at the moment, but honestly that whole "kill 13 people with 1 spell" seemed like an exaggeration of the event, especially fitting peoples' belief that Sirius had gone insane. Regardless, 13 people then a getaway, all while confronting Sirius, does show more skill than we would've thought - wether it was 1 spell or not. Hadn't actually thought of that before, he's usually seen as this "un-skilled, tag-along" member of the Marauders. Makes you also realize just how cowardly he must have been, to know that maybe he could have put up a good fight against the death eaters but ended up joining them out of fear anyway.
They should make a top ten list of bad guys based on body count. Voldypoo is still #1, but I don't know the rest. Bellatrix, Fenrir, Crouch Jr., Pettigrew, probably round out the top 5.
Filch having no magic but having to clean up after and discipline kids makes it understandable why he might be grouchy, but he's definitely not supposed to be working around kids if he hates them. He's the wizard equivalent of the old teacher who you have no idea why they went into education (probably for a power trip) and reminisces about the 'good 'ol days' when you could beat kids/hang them in the dungeon. Quite realistic of some in education unfortunately, with the added wizard brutality.
He may have started out plucky and eager and just years of job have withered him away, and it’s probably his only employment opportunity, I can’t imagine a lot of people wanting to hire a squib and he may not be literate in the ways of muggles, in fact he may not even have a formal education to speak of.
Our principal looked and acted like Umbridge. Blonde hair, sweet high voice, forcing aura, and the style... We had an english lecturer from Britain for two weeks. They had a comment about our principal "This woman reminds me Umbridgde, does she?" I almost fell from my chair.
I’d have her on the list if it wasn’t for Order of the Phoenix. When she got blackmailed by Hermione to write an accurate story about Harry in the Quibbler she put her all into honoring the demand. Even though she didn’t want to she still upheld her part of the deal completely which I can respect.
@@MereImitation I'd agree in any other context besides blackmail lol. I would instead respect saying "fine bust me" because that means someone is willing to stand by the actions for which they're getting blackmailed to begin with lol
the irony that the reason they wouldn't be friends is because Marge would hate Umbridge for being a witch and Umbridge would hate Marge for being a Muggle, is too similar to real world prejudices to be funny but otherwise
10:03 Either subconsciously or not, I think Snape’s bullying of Neville goes way beyond potions. The fact that Neville’s sitting in his class at all is yet another reminder of his loss. If Voldy had chosen the Longbottoms to target, he would still “have” Lily. Of course, that’s no excuse. As an adult, at some point you have to start taking responsibility for yourself and your actions! Love the video!!
Snape is just "childish forever, serious at times" and that annoys me, how he is so mature when he is dying and "betraying" and so imature in every other instance of time.
I recently read an opinion post explaining Percy's perspective as an awkward middle child surrounded by popular, successful siblings (Bill, Charlie, Fred & George) who is constantly trying to prove his merit from within their shadows. His family never seems to recognize his accomplishments, many of them choosing instead to constantly deride him for it, so no wonder he leaves as soon as possible and carries a massive chip on his shoulder. It actually made me sympathize with him.
but Percy's accomplishments WERE celebrated, Molly was always so proud of him and comparing his siblings to him ('why can't you be a prefect like Percy, why can't you get grades like Percy, why can't you be perfect like Percy'). he was given a pet multiple times for his accomplishments, and his parents were supportive of him in pretty much every aspect until he turned his back on them. his siblings obviously don't hate him for his accomplishments, but there's bound to be at least a little bit of resentment (especially on Fred and George's parts) after being compared to him for so long. I'd love to read the post you're talking about, but as of right now, I can't say much of Percy's anger towards his family was justified.
also Fred and George were the overlooked brothers not Percy. Fred and George had all of their efforts condescendingly undermined by their parents and they were constantly told to be more like Percy. imo anyone who thinks Percy's actions were justified at all is trash just like Percy was.
Personally, Petunia and Vernon are two of the most heinous characters of the whole series in my eyes. They neglected and abused an innocent child for years and years because of their bigotry. The Dursleys made sure Harry felt isolated in every possible way, and used their son as a weapon against him, causing Dudley to become a pawn as well. They never really apologized to him either, although no apology could ever make up for what they did.
I COMPLETELY AGREE with you. In my mind, Harry's Aunt and Uncle are right up there in level of evilness to basically be on par with Umbridge. I'm COMPLETELY CONFUSED as to why Harry's Aunt and Uncle didn't make this list. I mean, for goodness sake, his "Aunt" Marge made the list! WHY NOT the Aunt and Uncle that ACTUALLY RAISED HIM, and treated him HORRIBLY his ENTIRE LIFE!!!! Kinda oxymoronic if you ask me.
@@lorenztor1990 I don't care what you think. I think I am. Reason why is because the Aunt and Uncle that ACTUALLY RAISED Harry Potter, and CONTINUALLY, on a DAILY BASIS, treated him HORRIBLY, didn't make the list, and "Aunt" Marge, who treated him just as badly, but in isolated incidents because she didn't live with them, made the list. I believe it's an oxymoron because characters who continually were horrible to Harry Potter didn't make the list, but someone who was only in ONE book and movie, DID make the list. I feel more consistent HORRIBLE treatment deserves to be on the list MORE than isolated horrific treatment. That's why I call it an oxymoron.
Imagine being the most evil wizard ever, almost succeeding taking over the world (had it not been for those meddling kids), and then being remembered for not clipping your toenails.
If Snape loved Lily as much as he claimed he did, why did he ever think it was ok to treat her son the way he did? What would Lily say if she could confront him about it? _You did WHAT to my son?!_ Like, there's no way she would forgive him for that. I hope she tore him a new one after he died and they met up again.
That barely makes sense. Snape defended Harry's life again and again throughout the series, even going to extreme lengths near the end of the series to ensure Harry and his allies won the War
@@Jonathan-A.C. All of that might come down to personal opinion, but imo "saving his life" does not excuse the shitshow Snape made of his behavior to Harry and almost every other child in this school. As I see it, he's abusive, point blank. Imo opinion he should have been third place on this list, second being Petunia and Vernon.
@@Jonathan-A.C. As I said, it comes down to personal opinion. I don't think the "good" he did outweighs the "bad". You seem to think so. I don't see how that makes me delusional, but you do you
I can’t believe you didn’t include Uncle Vernon. I never had any nightmares because of Voldemort as a kid but i had plenty of nightmares because of Uncle Vernon
Rereading the books I agree more and more with Dumbledore in giving so many points to Harry, Hermione, Ron and Neville in the first book because snape was an abusive teacher who took so many points away from the other houses. No wonder Slitheryn won the House Cup for 7 consecutive years
imo the problem was never the amount of points (they were 100% deserved), it was just the way they were delivered. Harry was in the hospital wing for several days, he even missed the last quidditch game, which also affects house points. Doumbledore had ample time to award the points. He could have told Harry right then and there when he visits him in the hospinal wing, but, nope, Dumbledore chose to do it in the most petty and humiliating way possible to the Slytherins, and that just feels wrong. The students didn't do anything to deserve that. Sure it creates a great triumph feeling from Harry's side, but when you look at the bigger picture it just feels wrong for Dumbledore to have done it that way. It's much much better how it plays out in year 2, with Dumbledore awarding them the points immediately after they returned from the Chamber. It's even more points, but you don't see anyone complaining about those because it wasn't done in a way that humiliated other students. edit: btw, forgot to mention I fully agree about Snape. I'm just speaking from the students' perspectives.
Tears of joy yes those whole two house points he took from Harry and their very first potions lesson really the absolute make or break of the entire house cup
@@kiminimuchu__ Snape was a complete cheater with the points system and Dumbledore knew it. If he'd given Snape 10 seconds, he'd have taken the points away for some ridiculous reason to make sure Slytherin won.
@@kiminimuchu__ By "students" you mean Slytherin students, because all students from other 3 houses had no problem with the way Dumbledore did it! It was the opposite - they all were very happy about it, says the book. And Slyterins never had any problems with Snape humiliating everyone except them?
Strangely enough, I though the actress (Imelda Staunton) was too pretty for Umbridge; don't get me wrong, she embodied the character of Umbridge to a T, her demeanor, her voice, the little cough (& of course the clothes were as I imagined); but, in my mind, her face was too soft, no sharp lines (& I don't mean wrinkles) or hard angles to any of her facial features or head shape; I could be biased given the book art, however the impression I got from how she was described in the book is not what I saw just from Imelda's face
Umbridge is the most hated character in the books, and the actress fully succeeded in making that statement true for the movies also... unfortunately for us in the audience, that was really well done by her! :D
the fact that Dumbledore managed to track down the horcrux cave and defeat all protections still blows my mind the more I think about it, Voldemort had good reason to fear him. Also, could he have protected his horcruxes with a fidelius charm?
He could have, but I don't think he would've trusted anyone enough to be the secret keeper. And as far as I understand he couldn't be the secret keeper himself.
@@sellola He might trust Bellatrix and lucious with it because he gave each of them a horcrux anyway. If not all of them at least use the charm on the one he gave them
The bit about Aunt Marge nails perfectly why we dislike some of these characters more than Voldemort. At least in the US and UK we're unlikely to face down someone like Voldemort, but people like Marge or Percy or Zacharias Smith we meet all the time. Umbridge is pretty much my state's governor exactly. We've all seen entirely too much of her type every day whether in government, bureaucracy, work, school, those that just love to control others for the sake of their own elevation.
@@flickcentergaming680 Yep. Both parties. Not even a left/right problem. Self-righteous authoritarianism is everywhere, just a matter of which nail this style exactly with the Umbridgelike phoniness.
I think Petunia and Vernon Dursley deserve an honourable mention on that list. We got to see Marge in action once but Petunia and Vernon mistreated Harry for the whole rest of his life with them.
I'm not defending their actions but Dumbledore manipulated them into taking Harry he left them no choice but to take him in after seeing him in their doorstep and by doing so comprising them so they needed the protection he offered them it was wrong in Dumbledores part I know and he knew that he couldn't have given them Harry face to face coz they would have refused and he sent petunia a howler threatening them. I'm actually not surprised they mistreated him their normal life was intruded on with something they thought was gone from their lives. Petunia got the message in a letter that her sister was dead yeah she was never fond of lily but still a bloddy letter saying oh yeah your sister was murdered heres her child. Their safety was comprised their child's safety forced to look after Harry and have their lives turned over. And then having to move because their safety was comprised their child was almost murdered yeeah I don't blame them. Yes they definitely should have treated him right but I kind of feel for them, Dumbledore messed with their live unfairly. Heck he could have tried to raise Harry at Hogwarts if he really cared about other people it's a no wonder people don't like Dumbledores that much and see him as someone who thinks of people as chess pieces
You know...in retrospect that fact Hagrid was expelled AT ALL is a basic failure of the forensic process. The victim's ghost is right there and clearly remembers the event. Why was Murtle not grilled on what killed her so they could be sure it actually was Aragog?
I always wondered this too. Even if it took a while for her to decide to come back as a ghost, she could have told the story at any point and they would have figured out really quickly that Hagrid was innocent.
She didn't entirely know what killed her either though, all she remembered was it's eye, IIRC. If the Hogwarts staff/Ministry of Magic even knew of Myrtle's ghost, they likely wouldn't have changed the story anyway. They'd likely suspect she just simply didn't remember the whole event of her death, especially given how incompetent the Ministry is (at least as shown in Harry's time)
She knew enough to tell it wasn't a spider as big as a hand (Aragog was smaller back then). And yes, the point I am making is that the Ministry is bad at their job
To be quite honest, I feel like Hagrids expulsion was just a matter of time anyway. Sure his monster wasn't the one that killed a student, but it 100% had the capability of doing so and was a huge danger to the school, and who knows what other creatures he might have tried to bring in later on?
Also I don't think she was interested in helping anyone Else. All she did after choosing to become a ghost was stalk and make one woman's life miserable, to the point the Ministry had to get involved.
At this point I just want a video that's nothing but J, Ben or both of them ranting about everything that's wrong with Umbridge. It would probably be a very long video.
It gets me when people obviously not on Voldemort's side are horrible. Auntie Muriel takes great pleasure making people uncomfortable such as when she tells stories about Dumbledore at the wedding. Neville's grandmother sort of fits but hers seems more like tough love and she come around in the end.
before starting the video, I quickly guessed who might be in it. Umbridge, Rita Skeeter, Lockhart, Zacharias Smith, Pansy Parkinson, Percy were some names to come to mind. Really surprised Rita and Lockhart didn't make the cut!
I love the scene after that match where Harry is like “I’m going to kill him” and Madame Pomfrey is like “I’m afraid that falls under over-exertion” and pushes him back onto the bed
I a previous video, what if Harry was in Slytherin he hit a blusher at Harry hundreds of feet away which hit Harry on the head and knocked him out and potentially could of killed him because he was jealous he was talking to hermione. And cormak was the same his character didn’t really change. HOW WAS HE NOT ARRESTED AND CHARGED FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER. If the super carlin bros thought he was capable of that then he must be a piece of work
@@Ryko175 Ironically, McLaggen was actually the most likable in the film. He was still cocky, but at least he was a somewhat decent person. Probably one of the few good changes in the film.
It is truly a tribute to Imelda Staunton that she convinced us so completely that Dolores Umbridge was completely evil. Seeing her in other roles, and hearing the behind-the-scenes comments of the Phelps twins (Fred & George) about the transformation from the warm human Imelda is to the horrible Professor Umbridge tells me that Imelda is an incredibly good actress. The other amazing performance was that of Emma Thompson (Professor Trelawney).
@@ritainez10 There really were some top-notch performances throughout the series. No one would ever doubt that Dame Maggie Smith is gifted, but lots of the less prominent characters were also played by great actors. Ciaran Hind (Aberforth) turned in a great performance, and I'd bet you wouldn't recognize him in the 2004 version of Phantom of the Opera, or as Mance Rayder in Game of Thrones.
Imelda Staunton was phenomenal. Her and Kenneth Branagh (Lockhart) are my absolutely favorite character portrayals in the movies, they played their characters to perfection.
@@kiminimuchu__ Well, if you want me to be brutally honest, Evanna Lynch was the absolute best at her character, but that's because in JKR's words, "There were many girls who could play Luna Lovegood. Evanna **is** Luna Lovegood." That means that Evanna wasn't actually doing an excellent acting job, though. She was just naturally the character.
9:40 I wonder what 7th year Neville would have seen of the bogart. Something tells me that he may never have completely overcome his anxiety towards Snape but that he had much more pressing concerns
I think the reason Snape doesn't like Hermione is because he's jealous. Not only if her having friends that stand by her when he had none, but she's good at everything and he has had to work so hard to get where he is. I think he sees her as getting everything handed to her when he hasn't.
I think it’s because she’s a lot Lily, a muggle born griffindor who is academically gifted and friends with Potter I think we’re seeing some residual resentment At play.
Actually, Snape did have friends in the book. He hung out with a number of other future death eaters. It's why there was a break down in his friendship with Lily. She didn't like his friends because they were, admittedly, horrible and she couldn't understand why he was so interested in dark magic.
what makes wormtail worse is that he wasn't even forced to betray his friends- he felt forced by the power of voldemort, but he never actually was! He just up and volunteered his betrayal out of theoretical fear- he's not just an antithesis of brave griffindor, but also of loyal hufflepuff, ambitious slitherin and wise ravenclaw. Why is he even at hogwarts if he has no redeemable qualities that hogwarts itself prides itself in?!
Whether it's in canon or just in a fanfiction, I have a visceral reaction whenever Umbridge makes an appearance. As soon as there's a "Hem, hem!" in a fanfic, signifying her entrance into the story, my blood pressure immediately goes up at the thought of what truly evil nonsense she's going to perpetrate on Harry this time. I cheered more at her (ultimately temporary) comeuppance in OotP than I did at the death of Voldemort in DH.
I understand completely. I get an anger twitch everytime I see the actress in something else (especially Malificent where she was a pink fairy). Umbridge is my most hate character of any franchise.
@@garyhatmaker6589 Well, I get and understand your point, but, you need to keep in mind that the actress who played Umbridge is an actual person and human being, and their real life personality probably ISN'T the same as the role she portrayed as Umbridge in the Harry Potter franchise. From what I understand, that that particular actress, in real life, is actually a sweet and kind person. So, we can hate the character of Umbridge all we want, but we CAN'T hold the personality traits of the character against the personality of the actor/actress who portrayed the hated character. We HAVE TO differentiate between the two
@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 No yeah, I totally understand that the problem of people not being able to differentiate between actors and their characters is not an uncommon one. But in their defense, the three fairies in Maleficient were also meant to be annoying.
I think Snape is projecting his past self into Hermione, and just as he’s scolding Hermione, he’s also scolding himself. Also, it’s interesting that aside from Snape, no other Death Eater has been named.
On this list, you mean? Well, technically, Peter Petigrew is a Death Eater, but yeah, other than those two, I didn't notice any other Death Eater on this list, which is extremely odd! I mean, for me, Bellatrix Lestrange, Lucius Malfoy, and Fenrir Greyback would DEFINITELY have had made the list for me.
I think they were avoiding obvious additions to the list. I liked that they didn’t include them because it gave me more to think about characters who aren’t all necessarily “bad”, but definitely are annoying. Also, Ben mentioned Bellatrix, Lucius, and Fenrir Greyback at the end of the video, acknowledging that they deserve to be on an evil list. I just don’t think that was the exact purpose of this video.
They do have a list of most evil characters in Harry Potter; they may simply have been showing how you can dislike characters for reasons other than how evil they are
the voice actress for aunt marge plays that role so well she plays the part of being hated so well even in her role as aunt trunchbull in matilda, she plays the aunt everybody hates but can't disown cuz she's family
I like that you didn't include Lucius, Bellatrix, and the other baddies. They don't give me a sense of dread when they show up on the page like the characters you did include. For me, I don't think I hate Bellatrix or any of the Malfoys because they are just far too interesting. Like, Bellatrix is so mad she's like the Joker of the wizarding world, a baddie you love to watch be bad. The Malfoys you dislike, but also pity, which is fascinating in a villain/antagonist. Like, I don't care why Umbridge does what she does, I just hate her for it. But I do constantly wonder why the baddies you didn't include do what they do, which I think makes me not hate them so much. I guess the difference is that the ones on your list do things that are "evil beyond reason" and the rest "have a reason" (not a good one, but a reason nonetheless).
Trust me, as a fellow badger, I cannot STAND Smith. Seriously, how did he get into our House? He never shows any of our qualities Also, Aragog is an animal. He can't really help his instincts. Remember, it was only his command that kept Hagrid off the menu, and that's due to his friendship. He doesn't know Harry and Ron, has only their word to go off of them being potentially friendly(and remember, just because someone likes Hagrid doesn't mean they see his perspective), and let's face it, his kids wouldn't likely wouldn't have accepted any explanations for sparing them
As far as I can tell, he was sorted into Hufflepuff because he's descended from Helga Hufflepuff herself (since Voldemort stole the cup from a Smith and they likely were related). Maybe that shows loyalty to his family/ancestry? Idk.
He might be you guys' Pettigrew. He doesn't showcase any Hogwarts qualities, but admires those of Hufflepuff so y'all got stuck with him. Sorry, mates. 😢
I remember when I first read Order of the Phoenix I was so disturbed by the first few chapters with Umbridge. She was so disturbing and the whole “blood writing” thing always makes my skin crawl, rub my hands together and just wish I could poke my eyes out. I’ve read the HP series like four times and every time Umbridge is introduced I’m just so annoyed and upset that she’s there. And I LOVE Order of the Phoenix so much. Like the DA, introducing Bellatrix (yes I know she kills Sirius which I hate) who is very cool and badass. But the fact that Umbridge is there is just…so…UGH!! I HATE HER! She gets worse and worse throughout the books. And her downfall is so beautiful. Fred and George are the complete opposite of her (rule breakers, chaotic, fun) and they bring her down! I LOVE it!
I would really like to see the Carlin Brothers microscope turned on Fred & George Weasley. Were they Seers, or at least very good at Divination? We already know they were extremely good in a wide variety of magical arts, potions included, despite their poor performance on their O.W.L. exams. Everything they made impressed even gifted and wise wizards, including Professor Flitwick, who left a small corner of their swamp in the corridor as a tribute.
Interesting, may I ask, what makes you think they were Seers? Totally agree with them being exceptionally gifted, not to mention creative, charismatic, brave, loyal and lots of other things. But I never thought of them as Seers. Please will you share your train of thought? I'd love to read it 😁
@@emilykeepsmiling9465 That they were willing to bet every Knut they owned at the Quidditch World Cup on the unlikely outcome that Krum would catch the Snitch, but Ireland would win the game. There were a couple other events throughout the book series, which I need to re-read.
@@JosephDavies I LIKE IT! I do believe, despite Emily's observations above, that they are also excellent potioneers. They didn't get an O.W.L. in Potions simply because they didn't care about tests.
you can replace take zach, lavander, aragog, filch and snape and replace with Petunia, Vernon, Lockhart and Walburga Black. Honorable mentions: Lucius, Bellatrix, Bartry Crouch Snr and Proff Binns.
Yeah that was super dark. Like I wouldn't judge him for being too scared to fight, we're all only human, but to actually be pushing people out of the way to get out? Man that's dark.
@@emilykeepsmiling9465 Not just people. The youngest and least skilled students, students who were literally taught as little defensive magic as possible because of their Death Eater teachers. Zachariah Smith is 100% deserving of a spot on the list of people to hate more than Voldemort.
yes, especially with Lavender Brown on the list; I don't see how her apparent fickleness could be worse than his outright snobbery; I can see why she could make a list like this, but not how she'd rank higher than the hufflepuff that makes Ernie MacMillan seem likable
Poor Lavander, I don't think she deserved to be on this list just because she wanted to be close to her boyfriend. We're conditioned to be against her because of Hermione, but she really didn't do anything wrong... Plus, that locket was such a histerical moment in the book I could never be mad about it lol
Exactly! Lav-Lav does not belong on the list at all! "Hate more than Voldemort"? Seriously? And neither does Percy. You know who does? Rita Skeeter. And ALL the Dursleys. And Draco and Lucius. And Crouch Jr. And Quirrell and Lockhart. And Mundungus Fletcher. And definitely Bellatrix and Fenrir. And maybe even Kreacher.
Yeah Lavender might be annoying to some people, she was too codependent on Ron, but mostly she was a teenage girl crushing and gushing about her first boyfriend. Her characterization is dripping in misogyny towards women, especially girly girls (which we see repeated throughout the books unfortunately with Cho, even Umbridge).
I agree, he was going to kill Neville’s toad, mocked Hermione for her large front teeth, and relentlessly bullied Harry in a persistent and targeted way.
@@dmidkif I think is actually nothing comparing with him becoming a Death Eater and a trusted Voldemort ally. No one ever asks about this, but how are you trusted so much by Voldy if haven't killed someone?
The argument in Harry’s first DADA class with Umbridge always infuriated me. Her reasoning for not letting them do magic is so preposterous. 1. She says that there is no need to do magic in the class room because you aren’t going to be attacked in her class room, but this assumes that they will be in her class room for the rest of their lives. Which is obviously not true. And 2. Her claim that Voldemort is not back and thus no one would want to hurt children completely ignores the Ministry’s official position that Serious Black escaped prison to literally kill children.
Filch is just that one dude who is highly dedicated to their job. If Dumbledore told him that every window in the castle needed to be scrubbed spotless, then Filch shall see it done. He may not like it, but nothing will stop him being the best window scrubber the world has ever had the pleasure to witness.
I just find her really really annoying. Her background is tragic, no doubt, but I cringe at a lot of the scenes, where she is present, in fact, most of them.
I’ve always wondered what kind of protection the ring Horcrux had…. Besides the curse. The locket has in a cave… The cave has hidden…. Having to cut yourself to enter the cave…. The lake full of dead people…. The magic boat that takes you to the centre of the lake. Then you had to drink a poison that makes you want water…. Touching the water activates the dead people to attack. The ring must have had more.
Yeah, there were definitely a lot of protections on the ring. That’s what killed Dumbledore. Voldemort left it in the Gaunt house with a bunch of protective curses around it. Dumbledore went to the Gaunt house and found the ring. But when he realized it was the resurrection stone he put it on. Unfortunately Voldemort had put a powerful curse on it, so that anyone who wore the ring would soon die. He and Snape were able to stop the curse from spreading, but he was still going to die within the year. Since he was already going to die he told Snape to kill him so that he could become the perfect spy.
I never got that how everyone sees Hermione as a rule follower. After i rewatched the movies im like when does she follow the rules? They break into everything in the first one, she brewed up polyjuice potion that one broke like 50 school rules, she used time travel to go to extra classes, she punched Malfoy, she aided an at the time criminal fugitive and how many times has she probably performed magic outside school and gotten away with it?
For Snape I think we need to take into account the fact that he had very abusive parents, and then bullied in school, probably gave him Sever PTSD and other mental health issues, and so I think many of his actions were based on the desire for him to have a “family”, hence is love to lily and him joining the death eaters. I think this past trama, probably helped cause his actions in the books.
Obviously Umbridge is awful, but I think most people forget are ABSOLUTELY hateable and evil Peter Pettigrew is. A snivelling coward who willingly sacrifices all of his friends just to stay alive, he could have just hidden out after Voldemort fell for the first time but he actively went out and brought him back which means living a normal life in secrecy is worse than reviving magical Satan. The last scene could mean he doesn't want to kill Harry, or it could mean he's a coward who hesitates at getting his hands dirty and would rather have others do the bloodshed for him. SCREW WORMTAIL!
Yep, Pettigrew is definitely the character I hate the most, even more than Umbridge. Something about the fact that he did all those horrible things out of cowardice, while understandable as an explanation, just makes him that much more dislikeable.
In my opinion, the worst thing about Umbridge is that her behavior doesn't even make sense. Like, she almost caught Sirius in the Gryffindor common room fire, so she must know Sirius isn't trying to kill Harry...so she must know Sirius isn't working for Voldemort.... but then what does she think is going on, if not Harry's version of events?
Well she was willing to let Harry get expelled/wand broken for using magic in front of a muggle against dementors which SHE sent after Harry, then had the audacity to say he was lying and was using advanced magic as the patronus charm (which as far as we know is really only good for warding off dementors) for something OTHER than warding dementors. So I think it's safe to say she probably doesn't care if Sirius is working for Voldemort or not, just that he's a "rule-breaker"
I think her main reason for catching Sirius was just so she could impress Fudge. Although I can't remember for sure if it's canon she was obsessed with him, or if i watched too many potter parodies from @chanwills0 😅
Snape was unmoved when the Potters were already marked for death until he realized that he provided VM the motivation to specifically target them. He went to DD because he would have blood on his hands for the death of the woman he was obsesses with. He was not an any point in the story a good person, but was only dedicated to his obsession of Lilly. Not anyone you'd ever want within 100 miles of your daughter.
I think so many people are like oh he was motivated by love so he protected Harry and thats why he was really a hero in the background. NO!!!! Im sorry but he wasn’t motivated by LOVE at all. He never Loved Lilly. He was obsessed with her and wanted to posses her, whether she liked it or not. When that didn’t work and he figured out he was responsible for her and her husband dying, then guilt began to eat him up. He “protected” Harry because he was guilty over his part in the death of his parents not because of love. Also I say protected but lets be honest he was horrible to not jus Harry but also everyone who wasn’t in his house. Neville said he was the thing he feared more than anything else. This is his teacher. Im sorry he isn’t a hero, he didn’t love Lilly but was driven by guilt. He may have loved her in his possessive way but the biggest thing was obsession which later let to guilt. Also the argument that he was mean to Harry so if Voldemort read his mind or other death eaters found out, it was a cover for his helping all along. Then why did he have to torture the rest of the school???? That wasn’t about the plan to defeat Voldemort, that was his way of being on top. He had been bullied as a kid so he was going to bully the kids so he could feel good. Im sorry it wasn’t like Neville was a threat from the start. Yet he was a bully from the start to him. (Probably because he knew VM could have chosen his family and didn’t so he resented him). Neville isn’t the only one. He is terrible to every Griffyndoor. We dont see it but it is stated how bad he is at the first banquet. Look at Hermione. That wasn’t just because she was Harry’s friend. It was because she was smart and probably smarter than him and he hated that. He was an immature child who did one thing right his whole life. He didn’t think of doing this thing right but did do it and I give him credit. Believe me the one thing he got right was a BIG deal, but it doesn’t overshadow all the bad he did along the way.
@@occheermommy the only part of your comment I disagree with is your claim that Snape wanted to possess lily whether she liked it or not had that been true he would've used a love potion to force her to be with him also I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Snape didn't switch sides & get his act together when lily ended their friendship he still actively chose to associate with his future death eater buddies & still joined Voldemort & committed God knows how many atrocities & actively told Voldemort the part of the prophecy he overheard & only when he realized that lily was being targeted did he decide to work as a spy against Voldemort so I definitely agree that everything he did post lily's death was out of guilt & a desire for revenge against Voldemort don't forget that he openly admitted to Dumbledore that he didn't care about Harry at all & was offended that Dumbledore would think he did he was only mad at Dumbledore for deceiving him
Everyone always talks about how Umbridge made Harry carve ‘I must not tell lies’ into his Joan hand, but somehow it’s so easy to forget that she sent the Dementors with the intent to *EAT HARRY’S SOUL* At least Voldemort just straight up kills you.
The thing I always saw regarding Snape hating Hermione was because of this: he sees James in Harry, I think he sees Sirius in Ron (both are kind of jokesters), and he sees Lily in Hermione. He sees a Muggle-born witch, remarkably skilled in her year, and who is she best friends with? The representation of his worst enemy. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Snape was a good guy. I think he was a regular guy who did bad things, then did good things. He makes students feel inferior. But once I thought about him seeing Hermione as Lily, it made a bit more sense to me as to why he was a bit hostile to her.
@11:34 you made a critical error! Which is something which you got right in the Sirius Black Quiz. You stated the Peter Pettigrew framed Sirius who would spend the next 13 years in jail… However, Sirius was jailed when Harry was one year old and escaped when Harry was thirteen. Which is twelve years.
Hi there supercarlinbrothers! I really like a lot of your videos especially your Harry Potter ones, and I was wondering if you could make a ‘top ten plot holes in Harry Potter’ video!
Bellatrix should be on the list. She tortured Neville's family, and then killed Harry's chance at a happy childhood (who also happened to be Bella's cousin), and then she made Snape take a vow, in the event her own nephew couldn't commit murder, and then she tried to kill Molly's only daughter (granted, *that* scene did provide one of the best lines in the entire series)
Well. It's actually Narcissa who made Snape take a vow, in the book at least. And also killed Sirius kinda by the accident (it was the stupify spell in the books), but she also was super happy about it so it doesn't really defend her, I think. But I was ready to saw her in the list, actually. But perhaps Helen is just too amazing to hate any of her characters. Despite all things Bellatrix have done she is one of my mom's favorite characters on movies just because of actress. Mine too as well. I just can't get mad at her even if she killed Dobby.
Also, while Neville had trouble with transfiguration, Professor McGonagall still treated Neville better than snape did. She may had believed he was not great on the subject, but she knew he was trying her best. She also recognized he was good in Herbology and Charms.
Is Marge the *older* sister, because it's possible she bullied him a lot when they were young, so he takes it out on the easiest target (Harry), while teaching his *own* son to bully others mercilessly, so he won't get his lunch eaten like his father before him by being too soft!
I honestly DID go out of my way to forget Zacharias Smith. And I never forgave Snape for all his bad behavior as an adult. Because he DID become a Death Eater and was obsessed with Lily. I don't believe he loved her because if he did, he'd love Harry as the only part of her that lives on. But NOPE.
I think it's pretty heavily implied that he did actually care for Harry though? Obviously in his own horrible way though, and/or maybe trying to hide it by being extra cruel to him
@@AuthorZaraHoffman For sure, it's not an excuse by any means. The way I read it was the whole "Always" part was referencing both his love for Lily, and care for Harry as the last thing that remains of Lily. Not to defend Snape's actions, because they were obviously cruel and arguably unnecessary (depending on the "he had to keep up the pretense of being a death eater" theory), but I do believe he did actually love Lily and cared at least somewhat for Harry (again, in his own horrible way)
Snape was also a bully in his own right. He attacked James and Co back, bullied other kids with dark magic, approved of his friends bullying with dark magic, freely threw around a racial slur. Just so we are clear on Snape’s time at Hogwarts, he wasn’t a defenseless victim, he was already into the dark arts pre-James, and gave as good as he got.
Yeah I feel like he wasn’t an innocent victim. At their first interaction he laughed when James said he wanted to be in Gryffendor and then they started in on him. Im not saying James and Co. didn’t take it too far, but when you start it and then get out maneuvered, its not really bullying, its just picking a fight with a bigger dog and losing.
@@occheermommy bullying implies he was a victim that didn’t fight or couldn’t fight back. James vs Snape was the same was Draco vs Harry. Draco was a bully, but he didn’t bully Harry, they were rivals
Also, in order for James to use Levicorpus on Snape, someone had to have seen it used on someone else in the first place. Since Snape invented the spell, James or someone else had to have seen Snape use it on someone else. Snape admitted it was a spell of his own invention when Harry tried to use Sectumsempra on him and he told Harry he was just like his father trying to use his own spells against him.
I will defend Percy with my last breath. He's just trying his best to be his own person. His efforts don't always go the way he wants. Who here hasn't been an awkward teenager trying to forge their own path in life making huge mistakes along the way?
@@Emporkommling Well, he went back, didn't he? Didn't he realize he was wrong? He thought Harry was putting HIS family in danger, that his family couldn't see what Harry was doing was "wrong". So Percy was wrong, he was still worried and still cared about his family because he came back. After realizing he was wrong. Can't a character be wrong?
@@Emporkommling he was trying to protect them and move up in the ministry to do better for them… He was misguided, but his intentions were with his family and when he realized he was wrong he was fighting right there on the front lines with Fred.
He was also the ONLY one that followed his mother's dream of her children Woking in the ministry. He's also very much the one everyone ignores including his mother so I kind of put the blame on Molly they never treated him like family and he definitely felt that I would also turn out worse if my mother actively showed that she didn't care for me and my siblings yeah maybe in private Molly was like oh Percy I miss him however she never showed that she loved him heck she showed that she loved HARRY more than her own child
Diet Dolores Umbridge would look and taste like Pepto Bismol, but excessively sweet to the point of being bitter. The weirdest part, though, even though it's much thinner (no thicker than a normal soda), it actually chokes you much more than Pepto Bismol going down. In fact, it's the only thing that feels better coming back up than it does going down, just out of the relief of getting it out of you.
Neville wasn't there when his parents were tortured. Frank and Alice were hunted down separately and taken to a place the four Death Eaters had decided to use and were tortured. Neville was never there. 😮
He doesn't remember. He only knows what the curse did to them, and that's enough. If he had been there, he would have been used as an interrogation tool and he would probably be dead.
It's possible those inferi weren't actually killed by Voldemort. He could have gathered them from a muggle cemetery and transported them to the cave. I wouldn't put it past him since we know he is happy go grave robbing for the elder wand.
I thought this too. They could be victims of his Death Eaters too. In a sick way I kind of like your suggestion of them being from a Muggle graveyard better. How's this? ....they were from Little Hangleton graveyard!! Yet another way to defile his Muggle father's heritage.
I think Voldemort was too selective and choosy about every detail that went along with the horcruxes to just rob any old graveyard. He chose the object, death, location, etc from their significance to him. I think he would have chosen them specifically, significant deaths but that still reminds you of just how many people he killed. It would have been wicked creepy if Harry have recognized some of the inferi, like from missing posters or news articles or something.
I don’t think he TURNED dark. He was portrayed by the other characters to have been someone always attracted to power and people with influence who were able to protect him and provide him with something he wanted. He didn’t have integrity, he picked a side and switched when he felt the tides were turning and then tried to go back.
10 - Umbridge: she was actively sabotaging students' learning with her terrible teaching methods 9 - Umbridge: she made the life of the other teachers harder 8 - Umbridge: she manipulated scrool rules just to assert her control 7 - Umbridge: she was biased and played favorites with the stidents and houses 6 - Umbridge: she gaslighted everybody whenever Harry tried to tell the truth 5 - Umbridge: she was full of prejudices 4 - Umbridge: she acted against the law while pretending to be lawful 3 - Umbridge: she sent dementors to attack a teenager 2 - Umbridge: she tourtured students 1 - Umbridge: she's just the worst
A thought just occurred to me. Umbridge is DATDA teacher and questions why they need to learn defensive spells when she is willing to use crucio on harry and if they learned how to defend against it they can probably take her if the class just jumped her with spells.
I don't think Snape being bullied makes him understandable because he was calling muggleborns mudbloods at the time and was saying he wanted to help Voldemort. Honestly,he was probably bullied because he did those things
@@JosephDavies is snape was a truly good character, he wouldn’t bully anyone else cause he has first hand experience to how bad it feels to be bullied.
@@sylvy16 If only it worked that way. Unfortunately a good number of bullies and abusers IRL were themselves once victims as well. Trauma has a way of perpetuating itself. :(
@@JosephDavies I know on the train ride James isn't the nicest,saying he'd leave of he was in Slytherin (obviously mirroring Draco talking about Hufflepuff) but is it ever actually said he bullied Snape before he expressed those ideas?
Well Umbridge does have fervour; but instead of for religion, it was for a broken government that was full of mostly corrupt individuals who either worked for a mass murdering lunatic or were ostriches, considering how far people like Cornelius Fudge shoved their heads into the ground shouting, "LA LA LA LAAAAAA!!!!! You-Know-Who cannot have returned!!!!!!!!!!" There were very few people, like Amelia Bones, Kingsley Shacklebolt, and others, who actually wanted to investigate the Voldemort thing but were blocked at every chance by the Ministry.
Zacharias smith was a much more pleasant person in the films. He only showed disbelief in one scene and after that he haw much nicer. He cheered Fred and George's fireworks, congratulated Neville for charming padma, and happily applauded Harry's lessons before everyone left for Christmas break.
Eyy, Not all Gryffindors are brave Not all Ravenclaws are smart Not all Slytherins are bad Now we can say, not all Hufflepuffs are loyal, Zachariah Smith is that example!
I probably would have put Mundungus on this list somewhere. Also, your description of how Umbridge uses her authority to punish others for things she herself does and her complete hypocrisy over people even suggesting things aren't how she describes them reminds me of certain celebrities, politicians, and activists who constantly disparage anyone who questions whether or not their methods for "solving" climate change are necessarily the best ones, while simultaneously driving expensive sports cars and flying in private jets dozens of times a year to attend "climate summits" of all things.
Dumbledore only turned against Grindlewald because of Ariana's death. And if running off to serve a Voldemort is bad imagine how much worse it is to attempt to *become* a Voldemort. Whenever and however people come back from that should be celebrated no matter how it occurs. Moral goodness doesn't only belong solely to those who never were bad.
“I’m pretty sure he never even clips her toenails” “……….” “His evilness is completely unrivaled” You know it’s true evilness when they don’t clip their toenails
Snape didn't like Hermione because she was a muggle born. Don't forget that even though he turned out to be a spy in the end he still agreed enough with their ideology that the Death Eaters never once questioned him. And this was someone who was given authority over school aged children for at least 16 years.
I know this might be controversial, but I despise Draco Malfoy. His fan girls make him out to be a misguided bad boy who was abused by his parents when he’s actually just a spoiled brat who treats almost everyone around him like trash and barely changes throughout the series.
Thank you so much for including Snape. Almost every time he showed up on the page I wanted to tear his oily hair out. And it only got worse after his "always" line. He abused his students and it's infuriating.
I don’t hate Lavender in the sixth book. While she was annoying, she just liked Ron. In the first five books, Lavender is always an annoying brat. “hErMiOnE i BeT yOu WiSh YoU dIdN’t QuIt DiViNaTiOn” says Lavender brown, with a literal crush on the teacher Firenze. Either that or I just hate divination
In the 3rd book, Snape told Fudge that Harry was terrible and spoiled, etc, so Snape is at least partially responsible for how Fudge acted toward Harry after that.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. Fudge wasn't really a bad guy until the fifth book when he denies Voldemorts return, and mistreats Harry for insisting otherwise. We can't really blame Snape for that.
I do agree that Snape was an asshole for most of the 7 books but in his defense he's a double agent working against a man so powerful and evil that only Dumbledore has ever even challenged him. If Snape gets caught he's just dead, there is no escape for him and I think Voldemort might have some questions for Snape if he was being kind to muggleborns and staunch light sided children and not biased in favor of Death Eater's children. Draco would be sure to write home to his Dad like he always threatened if Snape was "acting odd" around Hogwarts and Lucius would probably sell out anyone but his own family if it would get him into Voldemort's good books. Dumbledore is fine with the behavior because it adds to Snape's cover just so long as he never physically harms a student, but I wonder if he had words with Snape offscreen after hearing about his boggart.
What about the Dursleys? You cannot read the first 2-3 books without being resenting them for the extra mile they go to make Harry suffer and feel neglected
My top three most hated characters are easily Bellatrix, Umbridge, and Rita Skeeter. Bellatrix tortured Neville's (my favorite character) parents to insanity, murdered Sirius (my second favorite character), and killed Dobby (my third favorite character). No character I like is safe as long as she exists! Umbridge goes without saying. Skeeter I hate just because I feel she is the most relatable to today. There are so many media outlets that outright lie just to get the "story" out there that it absolutely infuriates me and I have just gotten to the point where I refuse to listen to any news source because I just automatically assume they're lying. I also knew people in high school that would intentionally spread false rumors and gossip just because they could and I hated that as well. Rita is so realistic that it's downright scary to me.
That's actually one of the best lines I've ever heard. "Hate is a powerful word, which is why I'm glad it exists because I hate her."
I was also a big fan of the cake line
Lol
That reminds me of Micheal from The Office s: "We can't fire him without cause, Micheal." "We have cause! It is beCAUSE I don't like him!"
Rember respect the actor she was really good at acting umbrige 😊
@@ellen-w9d .
How right you are! Imelda Staughton is an excellent actress!
Order of the Phoenix became my favorite book not for normal reasons, nah it became my favorite because everyone, including the teachers, HATED Umbridge with such passion that it made chapters such as Career Advice, absolutely iconic. Sprout giving Harry points for "passing over a pot", McGonagall telling Peeves how to unscrew the light thing properly, and Flitwick letting the firecrackers go off because "he did not know if he had permission", were all such great touches to add to the story that made it so funny before it got sad. It was a good balance. I also love McGonagall's determination to make Harry an Auror simply because Umbridge said he couldn't, as well as the iconic line "have a biscuit Potter". The students also were great but the teacher's made it for me.
Don't forget the best part of OotP, it introduces the last member of the silver trio, the better trio, Luna Lovegood. Seriously can we get a new version of book 7 told from the silver trio's perspective. That would be awesome.
@@endersdragon34 that’s interesting, “the silver trio.” I’m assuming that’s Luna, Neville, and Ginny?
@@jenniferpajor5365 Yeah
@@jenniferpajor5365 Yep I would love to see what the school was like that year
I for one would love to have all of them as teachers!
I was a bit baffled when, while describing Peter's transgressions, you missed that teency weency instance of Peter committing mass murder. Seriously, he slaughtered thirteen people with one spell just to make a getaway. It reinforces that Peter was both far more talented than most people realised (he was a Marauder) and also far more brutal. We've never heard of anyone else killing so many people with one spell before or after. His weak character concealed a man who was just as twisted and evil as any other Death Eater.
And the most awful thing about it? He became that man while growing up with James, Sirius and Remus. He saw them bullying Severus and he liked it. He was attracted to the charisma and power of James and Sirius who never encouraged Peter to stop fawning over them, resulting in Peter's attraction to an even more powerful wizard Over time, Peter became a murderous monster and his closest friends never noticed.
Dark, huh?
Was it officially confirmed it was only 1 spell? I don't remember too well at the moment, but honestly that whole "kill 13 people with 1 spell" seemed like an exaggeration of the event, especially fitting peoples' belief that Sirius had gone insane. Regardless, 13 people then a getaway, all while confronting Sirius, does show more skill than we would've thought - wether it was 1 spell or not.
Hadn't actually thought of that before, he's usually seen as this "un-skilled, tag-along" member of the Marauders. Makes you also realize just how cowardly he must have been, to know that maybe he could have put up a good fight against the death eaters but ended up joining them out of fear anyway.
I thought it was 12 + faking his own death
13 was for Sirius right because Peter was thought to be dead as well
They should make a top ten list of bad guys based on body count. Voldypoo is still #1, but I don't know the rest. Bellatrix, Fenrir, Crouch Jr., Pettigrew, probably round out the top 5.
@@IlikedpieCA If I remember right he caused an explosion and that's why there was such a high body count for only one spell.
@@PhilBagels Arguably, Grindelwald could be on top of that list.
Filch having no magic but having to clean up after and discipline kids makes it understandable why he might be grouchy, but he's definitely not supposed to be working around kids if he hates them. He's the wizard equivalent of the old teacher who you have no idea why they went into education (probably for a power trip) and reminisces about the 'good 'ol days' when you could beat kids/hang them in the dungeon. Quite realistic of some in education unfortunately, with the added wizard brutality.
My parents had some weird teachers kind of being the way you described, although definetely not as bad as Filch.
He may have started out plucky and eager and just years of job have withered him away, and it’s probably his only employment opportunity, I can’t imagine a lot of people wanting to hire a squib and he may not be literate in the ways of muggles, in fact he may not even have a formal education to speak of.
Our principal looked and acted like Umbridge. Blonde hair, sweet high voice, forcing aura, and the style... We had an english lecturer from Britain for two weeks. They had a comment about our principal "This woman reminds me Umbridgde, does she?" I almost fell from my chair.
I don't necessarily think she was the worst but I'm surprised Rita Skeeter wasn't included?
Ooh yes good shout! She definitely deserves a place on the list. Where would you put her?
Oh yeah. Let's pray wizard paparazzi never becomes a thing. She would be apart of that so quickly her quill could barely put it on her to-do list. 😖
True, I'd have put her in the list instead of Lavander.
I’d have her on the list if it wasn’t for Order of the Phoenix. When she got blackmailed by Hermione to write an accurate story about Harry in the Quibbler she put her all into honoring the demand. Even though she didn’t want to she still upheld her part of the deal completely which I can respect.
@@MereImitation I'd agree in any other context besides blackmail lol. I would instead respect saying "fine bust me" because that means someone is willing to stand by the actions for which they're getting blackmailed to begin with lol
I feel like aunt Marge is the muggle equivalent of umbridge, I’m pretty sure they would be besties if she was a wizard 😂
the irony that the reason they wouldn't be friends is because Marge would hate Umbridge for being a witch and Umbridge would hate Marge for being a Muggle, is too similar to real world prejudices to be funny but otherwise
@@rachelzahava8292 they said if Marge was a wizard
Hmm. Inflate umbridge til she pops. Good punishment for her.
@@prakritivirmani this is true but also Rachel has a very interesting point as well :)
Umbridge is not capable of friendship. Neither is Marge.
"Broke the chart, lit it on fire, blamed someone else and over saw the punishment" is my new favorite sentence
20:58 lol
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I'm literally just starting the video and I'm going to go ahead and assume that that would be them reacting to umbridge
Yes
It's like a whole mood
10:03 Either subconsciously or not, I think Snape’s bullying of Neville goes way beyond potions. The fact that Neville’s sitting in his class at all is yet another reminder of his loss. If Voldy had chosen the Longbottoms to target, he would still “have” Lily. Of course, that’s no excuse. As an adult, at some point you have to start taking responsibility for yourself and your actions! Love the video!!
Snape is just "childish forever, serious at times" and that annoys me, how he is so mature when he is dying and "betraying" and so imature in every other instance of time.
The fact that the dark lord had to be immortal 7 times to fight a teenager and still lost is somewhat humiliating.
A teenager that was backed up and guided by the most powerful and wise wizard who ever lived (Dumbledore) and numerous other powerful wizards.
@@abraham2172 Yeah but they all only had one life. Moldy Voldy had multiple lives and squandered them all like a drunken game of Mario world.
Way to ruin the joke there pal
@@abraham2172backed yes but he did it mostly with just the help of other teens and finally by himself.
@Trump Is The Messiah there is saving Sirius.
I recently read an opinion post explaining Percy's perspective as an awkward middle child surrounded by popular, successful siblings (Bill, Charlie, Fred & George) who is constantly trying to prove his merit from within their shadows. His family never seems to recognize his accomplishments, many of them choosing instead to constantly deride him for it, so no wonder he leaves as soon as possible and carries a massive chip on his shoulder. It actually made me sympathize with him.
His motives really sound like Ron's
Totally agree. I would never have Percy on this list.
THIS NEEDS MORE RECOGNITION
but Percy's accomplishments WERE celebrated, Molly was always so proud of him and comparing his siblings to him ('why can't you be a prefect like Percy, why can't you get grades like Percy, why can't you be perfect like Percy'). he was given a pet multiple times for his accomplishments, and his parents were supportive of him in pretty much every aspect until he turned his back on them. his siblings obviously don't hate him for his accomplishments, but there's bound to be at least a little bit of resentment (especially on Fred and George's parts) after being compared to him for so long. I'd love to read the post you're talking about, but as of right now, I can't say much of Percy's anger towards his family was justified.
also Fred and George were the overlooked brothers not Percy. Fred and George had all of their efforts condescendingly undermined by their parents and they were constantly told to be more like Percy. imo anyone who thinks Percy's actions were justified at all is trash just like Percy was.
Personally, Petunia and Vernon are two of the most heinous characters of the whole series in my eyes. They neglected and abused an innocent child for years and years because of their bigotry. The Dursleys made sure Harry felt isolated in every possible way, and used their son as a weapon against him, causing Dudley to become a pawn as well. They never really apologized to him either, although no apology could ever make up for what they did.
I thought Dudley sort of apologized in book 7?
@@IDH1198 You're right, he did. But his parents never did.
I COMPLETELY AGREE with you. In my mind, Harry's Aunt and Uncle are right up there in level of evilness to basically be on par with Umbridge. I'm COMPLETELY CONFUSED as to why Harry's Aunt and Uncle didn't make this list. I mean, for goodness sake, his "Aunt" Marge made the list! WHY NOT the Aunt and Uncle that ACTUALLY RAISED HIM, and treated him HORRIBLY his ENTIRE LIFE!!!! Kinda oxymoronic if you ask me.
@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 I don't think you are using the word "oxymoron" correctly.
@@lorenztor1990 I don't care what you think. I think I am. Reason why is because the Aunt and Uncle that ACTUALLY RAISED Harry Potter, and CONTINUALLY, on a DAILY BASIS, treated him HORRIBLY, didn't make the list, and "Aunt" Marge, who treated him just as badly, but in isolated incidents because she didn't live with them, made the list. I believe it's an oxymoron because characters who continually were horrible to Harry Potter didn't make the list, but someone who was only in ONE book and movie, DID make the list. I feel more consistent HORRIBLE treatment deserves to be on the list MORE than isolated horrific treatment. That's why I call it an oxymoron.
Imagine being the most evil wizard ever, almost succeeding taking over the world (had it not been for those meddling kids), and then being remembered for not clipping your toenails.
And you dont even get top hate spot, that goes to a woman in a pink cardigan.
hahahahahahahahaha
@@occheermommy hahahahahahahaha🤣
@@lauralugo9341 you know Voldy is pacing the room. “I was the biggest dark wizard of all time and these people hate HER more than me”
And no nose
If Snape loved Lily as much as he claimed he did, why did he ever think it was ok to treat her son the way he did? What would Lily say if she could confront him about it?
_You did WHAT to my son?!_
Like, there's no way she would forgive him for that. I hope she tore him a new one after he died and they met up again.
That barely makes sense.
Snape defended Harry's life again and again throughout the series, even going to extreme lengths near the end of the series to ensure Harry and his allies won the War
@@Jonathan-A.C. All of that might come down to personal opinion, but imo "saving his life" does not excuse the shitshow Snape made of his behavior to Harry and almost every other child in this school. As I see it, he's abusive, point blank. Imo opinion he should have been third place on this list, second being Petunia and Vernon.
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Delusional. That is the biggest and clearly most impactful thing he did for them, and really, he did it multiple times. I don't see it
@@Jonathan-A.C. As I said, it comes down to personal opinion. I don't think the "good" he did outweighs the "bad". You seem to think so. I don't see how that makes me delusional, but you do you
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I don't see how saving lives consistently while risking one's own life is not somehow outweighing harsh bullying
I can’t believe you didn’t include Uncle Vernon. I never had any nightmares because of Voldemort as a kid but i had plenty of nightmares because of Uncle Vernon
Rereading the books I agree more and more with Dumbledore in giving so many points to Harry, Hermione, Ron and Neville in the first book because snape was an abusive teacher who took so many points away from the other houses. No wonder Slitheryn won the House Cup for 7 consecutive years
imo the problem was never the amount of points (they were 100% deserved), it was just the way they were delivered. Harry was in the hospital wing for several days, he even missed the last quidditch game, which also affects house points. Doumbledore had ample time to award the points. He could have told Harry right then and there when he visits him in the hospinal wing, but, nope, Dumbledore chose to do it in the most petty and humiliating way possible to the Slytherins, and that just feels wrong. The students didn't do anything to deserve that. Sure it creates a great triumph feeling from Harry's side, but when you look at the bigger picture it just feels wrong for Dumbledore to have done it that way.
It's much much better how it plays out in year 2, with Dumbledore awarding them the points immediately after they returned from the Chamber. It's even more points, but you don't see anyone complaining about those because it wasn't done in a way that humiliated other students.
edit: btw, forgot to mention I fully agree about Snape. I'm just speaking from the students' perspectives.
Tears of joy yes those whole two house points he took from Harry and their very first potions lesson really the absolute make or break of the entire house cup
@@kiminimuchu__ Snape was a complete cheater with the points system and Dumbledore knew it. If he'd given Snape 10 seconds, he'd have taken the points away for some ridiculous reason to make sure Slytherin won.
@@kiminimuchu__ By "students" you mean Slytherin students, because all students from other 3 houses had no problem with the way Dumbledore did it! It was the opposite - they all were very happy about it, says the book. And Slyterins never had any problems with Snape humiliating everyone except them?
The actor for Umbridge was spot on. She was amazingly convincing!
Yes! She was doubleplusgood
Strangely enough, I though the actress (Imelda Staunton) was too pretty for Umbridge; don't get me wrong, she embodied the character of Umbridge to a T, her demeanor, her voice, the little cough (& of course the clothes were as I imagined); but, in my mind, her face was too soft, no sharp lines (& I don't mean wrinkles) or hard angles to any of her facial features or head shape; I could be biased given the book art, however the impression I got from how she was described in the book is not what I saw just from Imelda's face
It gave her depression mate
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Umbridge is the most hated character in the books, and the actress fully succeeded in making that statement true for the movies also... unfortunately for us in the audience, that was really well done by her! :D
the fact that Dumbledore managed to track down the horcrux cave and defeat all protections still blows my mind the more I think about it, Voldemort had good reason to fear him. Also, could he have protected his horcruxes with a fidelius charm?
He could have, but I don't think he would've trusted anyone enough to be the secret keeper. And as far as I understand he couldn't be the secret keeper himself.
And imagine Regulus did the same
@@sellola He might trust Bellatrix and lucious with it because he gave each of them a horcrux anyway. If not all of them at least use the charm on the one he gave them
@@robertoleary5470 yes but regulus was taken there by kreacher who had been there with Voldemort
@@sellola I think he could’ve been the secret keeper, Bill was the secret keeper for him and Fleur so idk
The bit about Aunt Marge nails perfectly why we dislike some of these characters more than Voldemort. At least in the US and UK we're unlikely to face down someone like Voldemort, but people like Marge or Percy or Zacharias Smith we meet all the time. Umbridge is pretty much my state's governor exactly. We've all seen entirely too much of her type every day whether in government, bureaucracy, work, school, those that just love to control others for the sake of their own elevation.
OMG my state's governor is also remarkably like Umbridge, and I'm just now noticing it. Are we from the same state?
@@flickcentergaming680 NY, but if you are from Michigan we may be able to consider this a draw
@@loudgoat5241 nope. IA. The fact that there are so many slimy state governors right now is pretty concerning, no?
@@flickcentergaming680 Yep. Both parties. Not even a left/right problem. Self-righteous authoritarianism is everywhere, just a matter of which nail this style exactly with the Umbridgelike phoniness.
I think Petunia and Vernon Dursley deserve an honourable mention on that list. We got to see Marge in action once but Petunia and Vernon mistreated Harry for the whole rest of his life with them.
Pretty weird the Dursleys' weren't on this tbh. They abused Harry emotionally while growing at least and probably physically too.
I'm not defending their actions but Dumbledore manipulated them into taking Harry he left them no choice but to take him in after seeing him in their doorstep and by doing so comprising them so they needed the protection he offered them it was wrong in Dumbledores part I know and he knew that he couldn't have given them Harry face to face coz they would have refused and he sent petunia a howler threatening them. I'm actually not surprised they mistreated him their normal life was intruded on with something they thought was gone from their lives. Petunia got the message in a letter that her sister was dead yeah she was never fond of lily but still a bloddy letter saying oh yeah your sister was murdered heres her child. Their safety was comprised their child's safety forced to look after Harry and have their lives turned over. And then having to move because their safety was comprised their child was almost murdered yeeah I don't blame them. Yes they definitely should have treated him right but I kind of feel for them, Dumbledore messed with their live unfairly. Heck he could have tried to raise Harry at Hogwarts if he really cared about other people it's a no wonder people don't like Dumbledores that much and see him as someone who thinks of people as chess pieces
You know...in retrospect that fact Hagrid was expelled AT ALL is a basic failure of the forensic process. The victim's ghost is right there and clearly remembers the event. Why was Murtle not grilled on what killed her so they could be sure it actually was Aragog?
I always wondered this too. Even if it took a while for her to decide to come back as a ghost, she could have told the story at any point and they would have figured out really quickly that Hagrid was innocent.
She didn't entirely know what killed her either though, all she remembered was it's eye, IIRC. If the Hogwarts staff/Ministry of Magic even knew of Myrtle's ghost, they likely wouldn't have changed the story anyway. They'd likely suspect she just simply didn't remember the whole event of her death, especially given how incompetent the Ministry is (at least as shown in Harry's time)
She knew enough to tell it wasn't a spider as big as a hand (Aragog was smaller back then). And yes, the point I am making is that the Ministry is bad at their job
To be quite honest, I feel like Hagrids expulsion was just a matter of time anyway. Sure his monster wasn't the one that killed a student, but it 100% had the capability of doing so and was a huge danger to the school, and who knows what other creatures he might have tried to bring in later on?
Also I don't think she was interested in helping anyone Else. All she did after choosing to become a ghost was stalk and make one woman's life miserable, to the point the Ministry had to get involved.
At this point I just want a video that's nothing but J, Ben or both of them ranting about everything that's wrong with Umbridge. It would probably be a very long video.
Long & Loud! With a lot of double and's too! (Also, also)
The next big series, possible bigger than Dumbledore's plan and "What if Harry was a Slytherin?"
A very long and great veido
They already did a video like this. It was long time ago and they hit every nail on the head about her
I could write a whole book about my hatred and disgust for her
It gets me when people obviously not on Voldemort's side are horrible. Auntie Muriel takes great pleasure making people uncomfortable such as when she tells stories about Dumbledore at the wedding. Neville's grandmother sort of fits but hers seems more like tough love and she come around in the end.
before starting the video, I quickly guessed who might be in it. Umbridge, Rita Skeeter, Lockhart, Zacharias Smith, Pansy Parkinson, Percy were some names to come to mind. Really surprised Rita and Lockhart didn't make the cut!
I find Lockhart more like an annoying side kick rather than me hating me but what he did was pretty scummy
You’re forgetting one other. Cormac Mclaggen.
Definitely worse than Lav-Lav
I love the scene after that match where Harry is like “I’m going to kill him” and Madame Pomfrey is like “I’m afraid that falls under over-exertion” and pushes him back onto the bed
I a previous video, what if Harry was in Slytherin he hit a blusher at Harry hundreds of feet away which hit Harry on the head and knocked him out and potentially could of killed him because he was jealous he was talking to hermione. And cormak was the same his character didn’t really change. HOW WAS HE NOT ARRESTED AND CHARGED FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER. If the super carlin bros thought he was capable of that then he must be a piece of work
@@Ryko175 Ironically, McLaggen was actually the most likable in the film. He was still cocky, but at least he was a somewhat decent person. Probably one of the few good changes in the film.
@@Ryko175 that sort of happened in the books as well.
It is truly a tribute to Imelda Staunton that she convinced us so completely that Dolores Umbridge was completely evil. Seeing her in other roles, and hearing the behind-the-scenes comments of the Phelps twins (Fred & George) about the transformation from the warm human Imelda is to the horrible Professor Umbridge tells me that Imelda is an incredibly good actress. The other amazing performance was that of Emma Thompson (Professor Trelawney).
Imelda's performance was so good.
@@ritainez10 There really were some top-notch performances throughout the series. No one would ever doubt that Dame Maggie Smith is gifted, but lots of the less prominent characters were also played by great actors. Ciaran Hind (Aberforth) turned in a great performance, and I'd bet you wouldn't recognize him in the 2004 version of Phantom of the Opera, or as Mance Rayder in Game of Thrones.
I would even give Michael Gambon a high review, despite his "'DIDyOuPuTyOuRnAmEiNtHeGoBlEtOfFire?!'" Dumbledore asked calmly."
Imelda Staunton was phenomenal. Her and Kenneth Branagh (Lockhart) are my absolutely favorite character portrayals in the movies, they played their characters to perfection.
@@kiminimuchu__ Well, if you want me to be brutally honest, Evanna Lynch was the absolute best at her character, but that's because in JKR's words, "There were many girls who could play Luna Lovegood. Evanna **is** Luna Lovegood." That means that Evanna wasn't actually doing an excellent acting job, though. She was just naturally the character.
9:40 I wonder what 7th year Neville would have seen of the bogart. Something tells me that he may never have completely overcome his anxiety towards Snape but that he had much more pressing concerns
I doubt he would have still seen Snape. It would have probably been either the Carrows or something like every member of the DA dead.
I loved this video 😊 could we have more like this? More loyal characters? More selfish acts? Most impulsive decisions? The most selfless acts?
I think the reason Snape doesn't like Hermione is because he's jealous. Not only if her having friends that stand by her when he had none, but she's good at everything and he has had to work so hard to get where he is. I think he sees her as getting everything handed to her when he hasn't.
I think it’s because she’s a lot Lily, a muggle born griffindor who is academically gifted and friends with Potter I think we’re seeing some residual resentment At play.
Actually, Snape did have friends in the book. He hung out with a number of other future death eaters. It's why there was a break down in his friendship with Lily. She didn't like his friends because they were, admittedly, horrible and she couldn't understand why he was so interested in dark magic.
he hated her when the trio wasnt even friends yet @@SpykeTheSU
@@ilbwfy1550 shes still a lot like Lily though
what makes wormtail worse is that he wasn't even forced to betray his friends- he felt forced by the power of voldemort, but he never actually was! He just up and volunteered his betrayal out of theoretical fear- he's not just an antithesis of brave griffindor, but also of loyal hufflepuff, ambitious slitherin and wise ravenclaw. Why is he even at hogwarts if he has no redeemable qualities that hogwarts itself prides itself in?!
Whether it's in canon or just in a fanfiction, I have a visceral reaction whenever Umbridge makes an appearance. As soon as there's a "Hem, hem!" in a fanfic, signifying her entrance into the story, my blood pressure immediately goes up at the thought of what truly evil nonsense she's going to perpetrate on Harry this time. I cheered more at her (ultimately temporary) comeuppance in OotP than I did at the death of Voldemort in DH.
I don't care who you are, if you exist, you hate u******e
I understand completely. I get an anger twitch everytime I see the actress in something else (especially Malificent where she was a pink fairy). Umbridge is my most hate character of any franchise.
@@garyhatmaker6589 Well, I get and understand your point, but, you need to keep in mind that the actress who played Umbridge is an actual person and human being, and their real life personality probably ISN'T the same as the role she portrayed as Umbridge in the Harry Potter franchise. From what I understand, that that particular actress, in real life, is actually a sweet and kind person. So, we can hate the character of Umbridge all we want, but we CAN'T hold the personality traits of the character against the personality of the actor/actress who portrayed the hated character. We HAVE TO differentiate between the two
@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 No yeah, I totally understand that the problem of people not being able to differentiate between actors and their characters is not an uncommon one. But in their defense, the three fairies in Maleficient were also meant to be annoying.
@@scarletbailey6086 Yeah, I get that. But they also had good intentions at heart, despite being annoying.
I think Snape is projecting his past self into Hermione, and just as he’s scolding Hermione, he’s also scolding himself.
Also, it’s interesting that aside from Snape, no other Death Eater has been named.
On this list, you mean? Well, technically, Peter Petigrew is a Death Eater, but yeah, other than those two, I didn't notice any other Death Eater on this list, which is extremely odd! I mean, for me, Bellatrix Lestrange, Lucius Malfoy, and Fenrir Greyback would DEFINITELY have had made the list for me.
I think they were avoiding obvious additions to the list. I liked that they didn’t include them because it gave me more to think about characters who aren’t all necessarily “bad”, but definitely are annoying. Also, Ben mentioned Bellatrix, Lucius, and Fenrir Greyback at the end of the video, acknowledging that they deserve to be on an evil list. I just don’t think that was the exact purpose of this video.
@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 I like Bellatrix though. Fenrir is just generic.
They do have a list of most evil characters in Harry Potter; they may simply have been showing how you can dislike characters for reasons other than how evil they are
the voice actress for aunt marge plays that role so well she plays the part of being hated so well even in her role as aunt trunchbull in matilda, she plays the aunt everybody hates but can't disown cuz she's family
I like that you didn't include Lucius, Bellatrix, and the other baddies. They don't give me a sense of dread when they show up on the page like the characters you did include. For me, I don't think I hate Bellatrix or any of the Malfoys because they are just far too interesting. Like, Bellatrix is so mad she's like the Joker of the wizarding world, a baddie you love to watch be bad. The Malfoys you dislike, but also pity, which is fascinating in a villain/antagonist. Like, I don't care why Umbridge does what she does, I just hate her for it. But I do constantly wonder why the baddies you didn't include do what they do, which I think makes me not hate them so much.
I guess the difference is that the ones on your list do things that are "evil beyond reason" and the rest "have a reason" (not a good one, but a reason nonetheless).
Trust me, as a fellow badger, I cannot STAND Smith. Seriously, how did he get into our House? He never shows any of our qualities
Also, Aragog is an animal. He can't really help his instincts. Remember, it was only his command that kept Hagrid off the menu, and that's due to his friendship. He doesn't know Harry and Ron, has only their word to go off of them being potentially friendly(and remember, just because someone likes Hagrid doesn't mean they see his perspective), and let's face it, his kids wouldn't likely wouldn't have accepted any explanations for sparing them
As far as I can tell, he was sorted into Hufflepuff because he's descended from Helga Hufflepuff herself (since Voldemort stole the cup from a Smith and they likely were related). Maybe that shows loyalty to his family/ancestry? Idk.
@@angelaphsiao that's the only reason that makes sense
He might be you guys' Pettigrew. He doesn't showcase any Hogwarts qualities, but admires those of Hufflepuff so y'all got stuck with him. Sorry, mates. 😢
@@YukiSilverFox72 that also makes sense
@@angelaphsiao makes sense, although Smith is a pretty common name
I remember when I first read Order of the Phoenix I was so disturbed by the first few chapters with Umbridge. She was so disturbing and the whole “blood writing” thing always makes my skin crawl, rub my hands together and just wish I could poke my eyes out. I’ve read the HP series like four times and every time Umbridge is introduced I’m just so annoyed and upset that she’s there. And I LOVE Order of the Phoenix so much. Like the DA, introducing Bellatrix (yes I know she kills Sirius which I hate) who is very cool and badass. But the fact that Umbridge is there is just…so…UGH!! I HATE HER! She gets worse and worse throughout the books. And her downfall is so beautiful. Fred and George are the complete opposite of her (rule breakers, chaotic, fun) and they bring her down! I LOVE it!
I would really like to see the Carlin Brothers microscope turned on Fred & George Weasley. Were they Seers, or at least very good at Divination? We already know they were extremely good in a wide variety of magical arts, potions included, despite their poor performance on their O.W.L. exams. Everything they made impressed even gifted and wise wizards, including Professor Flitwick, who left a small corner of their swamp in the corridor as a tribute.
Interesting, may I ask, what makes you think they were Seers? Totally agree with them being exceptionally gifted, not to mention creative, charismatic, brave, loyal and lots of other things. But I never thought of them as Seers. Please will you share your train of thought? I'd love to read it 😁
@@emilykeepsmiling9465 That they were willing to bet every Knut they owned at the Quidditch World Cup on the unlikely outcome that Krum would catch the Snitch, but Ireland would win the game. There were a couple other events throughout the book series, which I need to re-read.
I don't think they were gifted at Divination. They only passed three O.W.L.s and those were Transfigurations, Charms, and Herbology.
The Weasley twins were hackers, through-and-through. Magically speaking.
@@JosephDavies I LIKE IT! I do believe, despite Emily's observations above, that they are also excellent potioneers. They didn't get an O.W.L. in Potions simply because they didn't care about tests.
you can replace take zach, lavander, aragog, filch and snape and replace with Petunia, Vernon, Lockhart and Walburga Black. Honorable mentions: Lucius, Bellatrix, Bartry Crouch Snr and Proff Binns.
the "it's not like cake" analogy killed me 🤣
I would have put Zacharias Smith higher on the list simply because of leaving the Battle of Hogwarts
Yeah that was super dark. Like I wouldn't judge him for being too scared to fight, we're all only human, but to actually be pushing people out of the way to get out? Man that's dark.
@@emilykeepsmiling9465 Not just people. The youngest and least skilled students, students who were literally taught as little defensive magic as possible because of their Death Eater teachers. Zachariah Smith is 100% deserving of a spot on the list of people to hate more than Voldemort.
Did he do that in the books? I’ve never seen the movies and I don’t remember this happening😅
All of the other hufflepuffs stayed to fight. He gives them a bad name
yes, especially with Lavender Brown on the list; I don't see how her apparent fickleness could be worse than his outright snobbery; I can see why she could make a list like this, but not how she'd rank higher than the hufflepuff that makes Ernie MacMillan seem likable
Poor Lavander, I don't think she deserved to be on this list just because she wanted to be close to her boyfriend. We're conditioned to be against her because of Hermione, but she really didn't do anything wrong... Plus, that locket was such a histerical moment in the book I could never be mad about it lol
Exactly! Lav-Lav does not belong on the list at all! "Hate more than Voldemort"? Seriously? And neither does Percy. You know who does? Rita Skeeter. And ALL the Dursleys. And Draco and Lucius. And Crouch Jr. And Quirrell and Lockhart. And Mundungus Fletcher. And definitely Bellatrix and Fenrir. And maybe even Kreacher.
Yeah Lavender might be annoying to some people, she was too codependent on Ron, but mostly she was a teenage girl crushing and gushing about her first boyfriend. Her characterization is dripping in misogyny towards women, especially girly girls (which we see repeated throughout the books unfortunately with Cho, even Umbridge).
@@PhilBagelsnot kreacher I say crouch Sr
Thank you so much for including Snape. I feel like him being a terrible person most of the time gets overlooked way too often
I agree, he was going to kill Neville’s toad, mocked Hermione for her large front teeth, and relentlessly bullied Harry in a persistent and targeted way.
@@dmidkif I think is actually nothing comparing with him becoming a Death Eater and a trusted Voldemort ally. No one ever asks about this, but how are you trusted so much by Voldy if haven't killed someone?
@@TheMagicAroundbecause he was a spy. Silly question
@@universenerddhe wasn’t always a spy he was a true blue deatheater at the start of his career
You are wrong . Snape is my favourite character .
The argument in Harry’s first DADA class with Umbridge always infuriated me. Her reasoning for not letting them do magic is so preposterous. 1. She says that there is no need to do magic in the class room because you aren’t going to be attacked in her class room, but this assumes that they will be in her class room for the rest of their lives. Which is obviously not true. And 2. Her claim that Voldemort is not back and thus no one would want to hurt children completely ignores the Ministry’s official position that Serious Black escaped prison to literally kill children.
It wasn’t supposed to make sense, it was supposed to be Umbridge toeing the party line
Each time I hear someone hates Lavender more than Voldemort, I start to think what's wrong with the world.
This is just like, "who's more annoying?"
Filch is just that one dude who is highly dedicated to their job. If Dumbledore told him that every window in the castle needed to be scrubbed spotless, then Filch shall see it done. He may not like it, but nothing will stop him being the best window scrubber the world has ever had the pleasure to witness.
But when he sees his cat murdered or hurt oh he gets mad.
@@krakenguy6200 Can you blame him?
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@@krakenguy6200 I mean if someone killed your pet you wouldn't be like "okay." would you?
I mean he restored the fat lady painting
OK, have watched it now. I agree with 90% of your list. I think instead of lavender brown, it should have either been Rita Skeeter or Moaning Myrtle.
Moaning Myrtle? You have me intrigued. What's you're thought process?
I just find her really really annoying. Her background is tragic, no doubt, but I cringe at a lot of the scenes, where she is present, in fact, most of them.
I’ve always wondered what kind of protection the ring Horcrux had…. Besides the curse. The locket has in a cave… The cave has hidden…. Having to cut yourself to enter the cave…. The lake full of dead people…. The magic boat that takes you to the centre of the lake. Then you had to drink a poison that makes you want water…. Touching the water activates the dead people to attack. The ring must have had more.
Yeah, there were definitely a lot of protections on the ring. That’s what killed Dumbledore.
Voldemort left it in the Gaunt house with a bunch of protective curses around it. Dumbledore went to the Gaunt house and found the ring. But when he realized it was the resurrection stone he put it on. Unfortunately Voldemort had put a powerful curse on it, so that anyone who wore the ring would soon die.
He and Snape were able to stop the curse from spreading, but he was still going to die within the year. Since he was already going to die he told Snape to kill him so that he could become the perfect spy.
I never got that how everyone sees Hermione as a rule follower. After i rewatched the movies im like when does she follow the rules? They break into everything in the first one, she brewed up polyjuice potion that one broke like 50 school rules, she used time travel to go to extra classes, she punched Malfoy, she aided an at the time criminal fugitive and how many times has she probably performed magic outside school and gotten away with it?
For Snape I think we need to take into account the fact that he had very abusive parents, and then bullied in school, probably gave him Sever PTSD and other mental health issues, and so I think many of his actions were based on the desire for him to have a “family”, hence is love to lily and him joining the death eaters. I think this past trama, probably helped cause his actions in the books.
Wasn't exactly a stand up guy even before his issues with james.
@@fightingmedialounge519 how?
@@krishmajumder1411 didn't really have favorable opinion of muggles, and was already into the dark arts.
Obviously Umbridge is awful, but I think most people forget are ABSOLUTELY hateable and evil Peter Pettigrew is. A snivelling coward who willingly sacrifices all of his friends just to stay alive, he could have just hidden out after Voldemort fell for the first time but he actively went out and brought him back which means living a normal life in secrecy is worse than reviving magical Satan. The last scene could mean he doesn't want to kill Harry, or it could mean he's a coward who hesitates at getting his hands dirty and would rather have others do the bloodshed for him. SCREW WORMTAIL!
Yeah, he has literally one redeeming quality: the tiny mercy he has when he slackers his grip for a moment
At least he had a satisfying death. Umbridge did not.
Yep, Pettigrew is definitely the character I hate the most, even more than Umbridge. Something about the fact that he did all those horrible things out of cowardice, while understandable as an explanation, just makes him that much more dislikeable.
I really pity him more than hating him
In my opinion, the worst thing about Umbridge is that her behavior doesn't even make sense. Like, she almost caught Sirius in the Gryffindor common room fire, so she must know Sirius isn't trying to kill Harry...so she must know Sirius isn't working for Voldemort.... but then what does she think is going on, if not Harry's version of events?
That's a brilliant point! Mind you, with how twisted her mind is I'm sure she could concoct some ridiculous explanation 😂
Well she was willing to let Harry get expelled/wand broken for using magic in front of a muggle against dementors which SHE sent after Harry, then had the audacity to say he was lying and was using advanced magic as the patronus charm (which as far as we know is really only good for warding off dementors) for something OTHER than warding dementors.
So I think it's safe to say she probably doesn't care if Sirius is working for Voldemort or not, just that he's a "rule-breaker"
I think her main reason for catching Sirius was just so she could impress Fudge. Although I can't remember for sure if it's canon she was obsessed with him, or if i watched too many potter parodies from @chanwills0 😅
I tend to believe that unlike Fudge, she knew that everything Harry was saying is right, but she is a professional gaslighter.
who else wishes voldemort used the killing curse on umbridge?
Snape was unmoved when the Potters were already marked for death until he realized that he provided VM the motivation to specifically target them. He went to DD because he would have blood on his hands for the death of the woman he was obsesses with. He was not an any point in the story a good person, but was only dedicated to his obsession of Lilly. Not anyone you'd ever want within 100 miles of your daughter.
Yeah, I would say that Snape was driven by obsession of Lilly, not love.
Heck, he was perfectly fine with James and Harry dying. He only wanted to save Lilly.
I think so many people are like oh he was motivated by love so he protected Harry and thats why he was really a hero in the background. NO!!!! Im sorry but he wasn’t motivated by LOVE at all. He never Loved Lilly. He was obsessed with her and wanted to posses her, whether she liked it or not. When that didn’t work and he figured out he was responsible for her and her husband dying, then guilt began to eat him up. He “protected” Harry because he was guilty over his part in the death of his parents not because of love. Also I say protected but lets be honest he was horrible to not jus Harry but also everyone who wasn’t in his house. Neville said he was the thing he feared more than anything else. This is his teacher. Im sorry he isn’t a hero, he didn’t love Lilly but was driven by guilt. He may have loved her in his possessive way but the biggest thing was obsession which later let to guilt.
Also the argument that he was mean to Harry so if Voldemort read his mind or other death eaters found out, it was a cover for his helping all along. Then why did he have to torture the rest of the school???? That wasn’t about the plan to defeat Voldemort, that was his way of being on top. He had been bullied as a kid so he was going to bully the kids so he could feel good. Im sorry it wasn’t like Neville was a threat from the start. Yet he was a bully from the start to him. (Probably because he knew VM could have chosen his family and didn’t so he resented him). Neville isn’t the only one. He is terrible to every Griffyndoor. We dont see it but it is stated how bad he is at the first banquet. Look at Hermione. That wasn’t just because she was Harry’s friend. It was because she was smart and probably smarter than him and he hated that. He was an immature child who did one thing right his whole life. He didn’t think of doing this thing right but did do it and I give him credit. Believe me the one thing he got right was a BIG deal, but it doesn’t overshadow all the bad he did along the way.
@@occheermommy i’ve never agreed more with any comment. Snape was obsessed with lily and that isn’t a reason for him to be redeemed.
@@occheermommy the only part of your comment I disagree with is your claim that Snape wanted to possess lily whether she liked it or not had that been true he would've used a love potion to force her to be with him also I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Snape didn't switch sides & get his act together when lily ended their friendship he still actively chose to associate with his future death eater buddies & still joined Voldemort & committed God knows how many atrocities & actively told Voldemort the part of the prophecy he overheard & only when he realized that lily was being targeted did he decide to work as a spy against Voldemort so I definitely agree that everything he did post lily's death was out of guilt & a desire for revenge against Voldemort don't forget that he openly admitted to Dumbledore that he didn't care about Harry at all & was offended that Dumbledore would think he did he was only mad at Dumbledore for deceiving him
Everyone always talks about how Umbridge made Harry carve ‘I must not tell lies’ into his Joan hand, but somehow it’s so easy to forget that she sent the Dementors with the intent to *EAT HARRY’S SOUL*
At least Voldemort just straight up kills you.
The thing I always saw regarding Snape hating Hermione was because of this: he sees James in Harry, I think he sees Sirius in Ron (both are kind of jokesters), and he sees Lily in Hermione. He sees a Muggle-born witch, remarkably skilled in her year, and who is she best friends with? The representation of his worst enemy. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Snape was a good guy. I think he was a regular guy who did bad things, then did good things. He makes students feel inferior. But once I thought about him seeing Hermione as Lily, it made a bit more sense to me as to why he was a bit hostile to her.
@11:34 you made a critical error! Which is something which you got right in the Sirius Black Quiz.
You stated the Peter Pettigrew framed Sirius who would spend the next 13 years in jail… However, Sirius was jailed when Harry was one year old and escaped when Harry was thirteen. Which is twelve years.
They forgot to pay the math budget again...
You should do a ranking of loved characters next.
honestly harry potter top ten (and lists in general) lists would be content i’d watch more of from you
Hi there supercarlinbrothers! I really like a lot of your videos especially your Harry Potter ones, and I was wondering if you could make a ‘top ten plot holes in Harry Potter’ video!
How Vernon and Petunia didn't make this list is beyond me.
11:34 BEN! How can you forget:
“ I Did My Waiting! 12 years of it! In Azkaban!”
Bellatrix should be on the list. She tortured Neville's family, and then killed Harry's chance at a happy childhood (who also happened to be Bella's cousin), and then she made Snape take a vow, in the event her own nephew couldn't commit murder, and then she tried to kill Molly's only daughter (granted, *that* scene did provide one of the best lines in the entire series)
Well. It's actually Narcissa who made Snape take a vow, in the book at least.
And also killed Sirius kinda by the accident (it was the stupify spell in the books), but she also was super happy about it so it doesn't really defend her, I think.
But I was ready to saw her in the list, actually. But perhaps Helen is just too amazing to hate any of her characters. Despite all things Bellatrix have done she is one of my mom's favorite characters on movies just because of actress. Mine too as well. I just can't get mad at her even if she killed Dobby.
For me it was the scene where she tortured Hermione. That took her to the top of the most hated list for me.
2:46 Zacharias Smith
4:47 Lavender Brown
6:41 Percy Weasley
8:44 Severus Snape
11:03 Peter Pettigrew
13:35 Aragog
15:24 Marge Dursley
16:59 Argus Filch
18:05 Cornelius Fudge
20:14 Dolores Umbridge
i agree @@EmmaJones-tu8pj
Also, while Neville had trouble with transfiguration, Professor McGonagall still treated Neville better than snape did. She may had believed he was not great on the subject, but she knew he was trying her best. She also recognized he was good in Herbology and Charms.
Is Marge the *older* sister, because it's possible she bullied him a lot when they were young, so he takes it out on the easiest target (Harry), while teaching his *own* son to bully others mercilessly, so he won't get his lunch eaten like his father before him by being too soft!
I honestly DID go out of my way to forget Zacharias Smith. And I never forgave Snape for all his bad behavior as an adult. Because he DID become a Death Eater and was obsessed with Lily. I don't believe he loved her because if he did, he'd love Harry as the only part of her that lives on. But NOPE.
Yup, he and Dumby get special recognition for ignoring and/or actually doing child abuse. 🙄
I think it's pretty heavily implied that he did actually care for Harry though? Obviously in his own horrible way though, and/or maybe trying to hide it by being extra cruel to him
@@IlikedpieCA I never read it that way. And if he did and still acted that way… it kinda makes it even worse in my mind
@@AuthorZaraHoffman For sure, it's not an excuse by any means. The way I read it was the whole "Always" part was referencing both his love for Lily, and care for Harry as the last thing that remains of Lily. Not to defend Snape's actions, because they were obviously cruel and arguably unnecessary (depending on the "he had to keep up the pretense of being a death eater" theory), but I do believe he did actually love Lily and cared at least somewhat for Harry (again, in his own horrible way)
Yes yes yes. HP vids warm my heart. Keep up the great work
Snape was also a bully in his own right. He attacked James and Co back, bullied other kids with dark magic, approved of his friends bullying with dark magic, freely threw around a racial slur. Just so we are clear on Snape’s time at Hogwarts, he wasn’t a defenseless victim, he was already into the dark arts pre-James, and gave as good as he got.
Yeah I feel like he wasn’t an innocent victim. At their first interaction he laughed when James said he wanted to be in Gryffendor and then they started in on him. Im not saying James and Co. didn’t take it too far, but when you start it and then get out maneuvered, its not really bullying, its just picking a fight with a bigger dog and losing.
@@occheermommy bullying implies he was a victim that didn’t fight or couldn’t fight back. James vs Snape was the same was Draco vs Harry. Draco was a bully, but he didn’t bully Harry, they were rivals
Also, in order for James to use Levicorpus on Snape, someone had to have seen it used on someone else in the first place. Since Snape invented the spell, James or someone else had to have seen Snape use it on someone else. Snape admitted it was a spell of his own invention when Harry tried to use Sectumsempra on him and he told Harry he was just like his father trying to use his own spells against him.
@@nickschulte3915 not exactly the same since James was more popular and had more immediate friends.
@@occheermommy also technically that was after they insulted slytherin. It ties back to neither being particularly civil.
I will defend Percy with my last breath. He's just trying his best to be his own person. His efforts don't always go the way he wants. Who here hasn't been an awkward teenager trying to forge their own path in life making huge mistakes along the way?
Percy had no familial loyalty whatsoever. Trash character.
@@Emporkommling I disagree.
@@Emporkommling Well, he went back, didn't he? Didn't he realize he was wrong? He thought Harry was putting HIS family in danger, that his family couldn't see what Harry was doing was "wrong". So Percy was wrong, he was still worried and still cared about his family because he came back. After realizing he was wrong. Can't a character be wrong?
@@Emporkommling he was trying to protect them and move up in the ministry to do better for them…
He was misguided, but his intentions were with his family and when he realized he was wrong he was fighting right there on the front lines with Fred.
He was also the ONLY one that followed his mother's dream of her children Woking in the ministry. He's also very much the one everyone ignores including his mother so I kind of put the blame on Molly they never treated him like family and he definitely felt that I would also turn out worse if my mother actively showed that she didn't care for me and my siblings yeah maybe in private Molly was like oh Percy I miss him however she never showed that she loved him heck she showed that she loved HARRY more than her own child
22:13 hate is strong but despise is stronger
Diet Dolores Umbridge would look and taste like Pepto Bismol, but excessively sweet to the point of being bitter. The weirdest part, though, even though it's much thinner (no thicker than a normal soda), it actually chokes you much more than Pepto Bismol going down. In fact, it's the only thing that feels better coming back up than it does going down, just out of the relief of getting it out of you.
Is anyone going to point out that Nevel remembers what it sounded like when his parents were being tortured, and yet Snape is his biggest fear?!?
Hmm I never thought of that before. Maybe since there’ll already dead it isn’t his worse fear because it just feels like pain?
Neville wasn't there when his parents were tortured. Frank and Alice were hunted down separately and taken to a place the four Death Eaters had decided to use and were tortured. Neville was never there. 😮
@@kaylieghskorner9650 but they arent dead. At least his mother is alive in st mungos
@@thorthewolf8801 both Frank and Alice are still alive and in St. Mungo's.
He doesn't remember. He only knows what the curse did to them, and that's enough. If he had been there, he would have been used as an interrogation tool and he would probably be dead.
It's possible those inferi weren't actually killed by Voldemort. He could have gathered them from a muggle cemetery and transported them to the cave. I wouldn't put it past him since we know he is happy go grave robbing for the elder wand.
I thought this too. They could be victims of his Death Eaters too. In a sick way I kind of like your suggestion of them being from a Muggle graveyard better. How's this? ....they were from Little Hangleton graveyard!! Yet another way to defile his Muggle father's heritage.
I think Voldemort was too selective and choosy about every detail that went along with the horcruxes to just rob any old graveyard. He chose the object, death, location, etc from their significance to him. I think he would have chosen them specifically, significant deaths but that still reminds you of just how many people he killed. It would have been wicked creepy if Harry have recognized some of the inferi, like from missing posters or news articles or something.
I would be so interested in hearing a theory of why Peter Pettigrew turned dark
I don’t think he TURNED dark. He was portrayed by the other characters to have been someone always attracted to power and people with influence who were able to protect him and provide him with something he wanted. He didn’t have integrity, he picked a side and switched when he felt the tides were turning and then tried to go back.
It’s funny how jk rolling pretty much turned into umbridge
Haven’t watched the video yet, but just wondering, is this going to be Dolores Umbrudge 10 times in a row? Because that could definitely be a list!
When I saw Umbridge on the thumbnail I knew I was bought.
Who else had 12% expectation that entries 10-2 would also be Umbridge?
10 - Umbridge: she was actively sabotaging students' learning with her terrible teaching methods
9 - Umbridge: she made the life of the other teachers harder
8 - Umbridge: she manipulated scrool rules just to assert her control
7 - Umbridge: she was biased and played favorites with the stidents and houses
6 - Umbridge: she gaslighted everybody whenever Harry tried to tell the truth
5 - Umbridge: she was full of prejudices
4 - Umbridge: she acted against the law while pretending to be lawful
3 - Umbridge: she sent dementors to attack a teenager
2 - Umbridge: she tourtured students
1 - Umbridge: she's just the worst
@@kiminimuchu__ Just retitle that “Top 10 Reasons to Hate Umbridge.” Better yet, expand it to Top 20.
my list would go:
10: Malfoy
9: Cho
8: Filch
7: Peter Pettigrew
6: Snape
5: Vernon Dursley
4: Aunt Marge
3: Rita Skeeter
2: Fudge
1: Umbridge
A thought just occurred to me. Umbridge is DATDA teacher and questions why they need to learn defensive spells when she is willing to use crucio on harry and if they learned how to defend against it they can probably take her if the class just jumped her with spells.
I'm happy Snape is on here, I don't even hate him, but the day to day class passages were just infuriating to read
I don't think Snape being bullied makes him understandable because he was calling muggleborns mudbloods at the time and was saying he wanted to help Voldemort. Honestly,he was probably bullied because he did those things
By the time we meet him and see those sentiments expressed, he's already been bullied for years, at home as well as at school.
@@JosephDavies is snape was a truly good character, he wouldn’t bully anyone else cause he has first hand experience to how bad it feels to be bullied.
@@sylvy16 If only it worked that way. Unfortunately a good number of bullies and abusers IRL were themselves once victims as well. Trauma has a way of perpetuating itself. :(
@@JosephDavies I know on the train ride James isn't the nicest,saying he'd leave of he was in Slytherin (obviously mirroring Draco talking about Hufflepuff) but is it ever actually said he bullied Snape before he expressed those ideas?
Delores Umbridge is Kai Winn Adami from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, just without the religious fervor.
Well Umbridge does have fervour; but instead of for religion, it was for a broken government that was full of mostly corrupt individuals who either worked for a mass murdering lunatic or were ostriches, considering how far people like Cornelius Fudge shoved their heads into the ground shouting, "LA LA LA LAAAAAA!!!!! You-Know-Who cannot have returned!!!!!!!!!!"
There were very few people, like Amelia Bones, Kingsley Shacklebolt, and others, who actually wanted to investigate the Voldemort thing but were blocked at every chance by the Ministry.
Her religion is government, but only when she can control it 😂
I’m shocked the Dursleys weren’t in This list. Shocked.
Zacharias smith was a much more pleasant person in the films. He only showed disbelief in one scene and after that he haw much nicer. He cheered Fred and George's fireworks, congratulated Neville for charming padma, and happily applauded Harry's lessons before everyone left for Christmas break.
He was even seen with other Hogwarts students in the scene where voldemort said harry was dead.
Eyy, Not all Gryffindors are brave
Not all Ravenclaws are smart
Not all Slytherins are bad
Now we can say, not all Hufflepuffs are loyal, Zachariah Smith is that example!
I probably would have put Mundungus on this list somewhere. Also, your description of how Umbridge uses her authority to punish others for things she herself does and her complete hypocrisy over people even suggesting things aren't how she describes them reminds me of certain celebrities, politicians, and activists who constantly disparage anyone who questions whether or not their methods for "solving" climate change are necessarily the best ones, while simultaneously driving expensive sports cars and flying in private jets dozens of times a year to attend "climate summits" of all things.
So going on the Snape being mean to Hermione bit, one has to remember that he still joined voldemort and only turned against him because of lily
Yep, and while in school he went around calling muggleborns "mudbloods"
Dumbledore only turned against Grindlewald because of Ariana's death. And if running off to serve a Voldemort is bad imagine how much worse it is to attempt to *become* a Voldemort. Whenever and however people come back from that should be celebrated no matter how it occurs. Moral goodness doesn't only belong solely to those who never were bad.
“I’m pretty sure he never even clips her toenails”
“……….”
“His evilness is completely unrivaled”
You know it’s true evilness when they don’t clip their toenails
Snape didn't like Hermione because she was a muggle born. Don't forget that even though he turned out to be a spy in the end he still agreed enough with their ideology that the Death Eaters never once questioned him. And this was someone who was given authority over school aged children for at least 16 years.
Allen Rickman made Snape so great. Such. 10:12
Hate is a strong accurate word to describe our feelings towards Umbridge
I know this might be controversial, but I despise Draco Malfoy. His fan girls make him out to be a misguided bad boy who was abused by his parents when he’s actually just a spoiled brat who treats almost everyone around him like trash and barely changes throughout the series.
I respect controversial, and I agree with you, actually.
BellaL
Thank you so much for including Snape. Almost every time he showed up on the page I wanted to tear his oily hair out. And it only got worse after his "always" line. He abused his students and it's infuriating.
I don’t hate Lavender in the sixth book. While she was annoying, she just liked Ron. In the first five books, Lavender is always an annoying brat. “hErMiOnE i BeT yOu WiSh YoU dIdN’t QuIt DiViNaTiOn” says Lavender brown, with a literal crush on the teacher Firenze. Either that or I just hate divination
In the 3rd book, Snape told Fudge that Harry was terrible and spoiled, etc, so Snape is at least partially responsible for how Fudge acted toward Harry after that.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. Fudge wasn't really a bad guy until the fifth book when he denies Voldemorts return, and mistreats Harry for insisting otherwise. We can't really blame Snape for that.
Your pain was definitely our gain. Incredible Aunt Marge!! Bravo!
I do agree that Snape was an asshole for most of the 7 books but in his defense he's a double agent working against a man so powerful and evil that only Dumbledore has ever even challenged him. If Snape gets caught he's just dead, there is no escape for him and I think Voldemort might have some questions for Snape if he was being kind to muggleborns and staunch light sided children and not biased in favor of Death Eater's children.
Draco would be sure to write home to his Dad like he always threatened if Snape was "acting odd" around Hogwarts and Lucius would probably sell out anyone but his own family if it would get him into Voldemort's good books. Dumbledore is fine with the behavior because it adds to Snape's cover just so long as he never physically harms a student, but I wonder if he had words with Snape offscreen after hearing about his boggart.
What about the Dursleys? You cannot read the first 2-3 books without being resenting them for the extra mile they go to make Harry suffer and feel neglected
My top three most hated characters are easily Bellatrix, Umbridge, and Rita Skeeter.
Bellatrix tortured Neville's (my favorite character) parents to insanity, murdered Sirius (my second favorite character), and killed Dobby (my third favorite character). No character I like is safe as long as she exists! Umbridge goes without saying. Skeeter I hate just because I feel she is the most relatable to today. There are so many media outlets that outright lie just to get the "story" out there that it absolutely infuriates me and I have just gotten to the point where I refuse to listen to any news source because I just automatically assume they're lying. I also knew people in high school that would intentionally spread false rumors and gossip just because they could and I hated that as well. Rita is so realistic that it's downright scary to me.