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- It seems I should check my tyre tread depths a little more often...😂
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On my 340i I fitted the ps4s and the grip is insane. Only available on 19s though which is why on an m140i I would at least consider bigger wheels. You can always sell them separately when you sell the car. Before that I almost went with goodyears asymmetric 5 tyres but I couldn't get then on the front only for the rears. Very good tyre though and worth looking into
PS4 fit the 18s though
I’ve had Eagle 🦅 F1s on my M3 twice and now my Mustang and with the exception of the 3 hours a year we get of snow ⛄️ I highly recommended them 😉
J B same I have the asymmetric 5’s on my 380 bhp focus st the grip in both wet and dry conditions is superb highly rate these👍
Berts FocusST I was using my M3 as a daily commuter as well and they easily cleared 14000 miles and at least a 3rd of that was spirited driving in summer months. Admittedly there were no track days but the performance and the wear rates certainly made me consider and actually choose them over recommended tyre upgrades from the mustang community. And even one guy took my advice and chose them and they are really really happy with the price performance and look. And another plus is the design is fantastic for rim protection for when the wife uses the cars 🤫
I didn't find them very hard wearing at all and Michelins more grippy and better wearing.
I have PSS on my m140i. I haven't done any track days but nearly at 20k miles and will change them in the next couple of months. Definitely the best all rounder.
I've changed from PSS to eagle f1 asymmetric 5 on my m135i and they seem alot more stable in the damp! Should consider as they are probably on par with the ps4 but slightly cheaper
I know what you mean about “run flats” they are solid , where I live is a stretch of road with cobbles , what a nightmare to drive on , love the red leather , clean that with Some Meguires rich class leather cleaner&balm and it pops. Great vid👍
It is good to find someone has the same opinions as me on certain tyres. I had Bridgestone S001s on the front of my car being FWD & found they tramlined a lot, & recently got a slow puncture on one of them thanks to a nail in the tread. So I put the two Bridgestones at the back after a repair & the Michelin PS4 which were on the rears moved to the front. Tramlining has reduced although the grip is not as good as the Bridgestones. The tread is still good on them after 15000 miles of driving with them so I will keep them until they wear out. If I had to go for another set of tyres it would be the Goodyear Asymmetric 5 having owned the Asymmetric 2 for a different car in the past. In the rain they were excellent but like the Michelins they have soft sidewalls which made steering not so precise so that would be my concern in getting the Asymmetric 5. I have heard good things from others about the F1 Eagle Supersports so it would be good to see how they perform on the track but also for normal road use in all conditions.
Hankooks S1 EVO 3 is a brilliant tyre 👌
Alex Pogson I second that very happy with mine!
I had the evo 2s on my s15 Silvia, so happy with them I've put the evo 3s on my mk5 golf gti. Impressed with the grip in the wet for fwd turbo with open diff
I have Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports on my Quad's summer wheels. When they go back on with the arrival of the warmer weather we will need to replace the rears after 5250 miles. Excellent tyres in the wet and dry with loads of grip and good feel.
I do have a heavy right foot though and some more torque, so your mileage may vary ( no pun intended ).
The only choice for the M-Lite should be the PS Supersport, terrible wet grip but the dry grip is phenomenal, I've done 15K and two track days on my set of Supersport's, still with 4mm remaining. In my experience, "Cheap" performance tyres have good dry grip but the wear is terrible. Very odd but check Costco tyres, always seem to have significant discounts on the PSS! also, great videos, keep it up!
I second that. I have an LSD and the MPSS. During cold and wet winter months I rarely apply more than 20% throttle from slow speeds. On dry and warm days they are sensational. I can floor it, in Sport+, from stand still or low speeds with no wheel spin.
Not wanting to say “I told you so” but we did have a bit of back and forth about your rear alignment on your rear diff video!
This goes to show the false economy of ‘cheaper’ performance tyres perfectly!
I’ve been on the Michelin bandwagon for the last few years now, but I’m eager to try out some Goodyear’s next time I’m in the market!
You did, we did, and I've just finished a healthy slice of humble pie 😊
I nearly went with a pair of PS91s for the rear of my R32 Nissan Skyline based on your videos. Glad I didn't now! Went for Goodyear EAGLE F1 Asymmetric 5.
Goodyear eagle F1 asymmetric 5! Great tyres good performance, great wearing
Great to see another video Mark. Tyres. Looks like you’ve made the same mistake we all make, buying cheaper tyres thinking we are saving money. The choice of tyres your looking at going for (good years) I think you will find them great on the road. Few people I know who have them on their st, say it’s a great and feel it’s better then Michelin, for me, when the time comes I think I’ll pop PS4s on the RS unless there are better tyres when the time comes.
I recently changed the PSS on the back after about 6.5K ( no track days ), read a review of Maxxis Victras VS5 in Evo magazine and took a punt. So far so good, superb in the wet better traction than PSS and far less prone to aquaplaning. On a par in the dry. Wear - will have to wait and see, its mostly been wet. Ive made mistakes in the past with budget tyres, but these are excellent. Will try fronts ( PS4s on front ) will have a better idea of outright grip.
Get that suspension changed !
BS RE-71R is awesome...I changed from PS4S to RE-71R. The tire wall is more hard. In corner, they can give you more stable feeling. In wet condition, PS4S is very good. But RE-71R also is acceptable with his grip.
I have PS 4 on my car, but it's FWD (C30 T5). Very pleased with the performance in the wet or dry and the wear, but I've not been on track with them.
PS4S & F1 SS are the best sport tyres for road at the moment.
I am glad I watched until the end, as I was going to reccomend the GY Eagle supersports. PS4 are still a good road tyre. You can't buy PS4-S in 18 inch size in UK unfortunately, but they would be ideal.
Thank you for watching right until the end! I know it takes some commitment LOL
Same here...was about to recommend the F1s and then you said you were going for them! We have the F1 Asy3 and Asy5 on our cars but I know the super sports are even better. They'll be my next tyre when mine run out.
Also, as a guide, I've done 16k miles including one full hard track day on them at Cadwell (tuned Golf R pushing out 373bhp and 395ftlb) and I've got a few mm left on them still. May even consider them on my e46 m3 when it needs new rubber.
Will be watching to see how you get on!
You can import PS4 S in 18inch from Austria
Good Year Grand Prix S. They're a major contribution to road safety.
LoL you'll have the millennials running for google with that one.
🤣🤣🤣
I had good year's f1 asym 2 on my focus ST as standard and they were great but now i have fitted 4 new Falken's azenis fk510 and they grip even better on wet and dry tarmac. Im quite impressed with them!
Mark, if you’re anything like me your rears will be toast but the fronts will still have loads of life left in them. I’ve got a mapped 330d with a quaiffe lsd so have similar fun to you 😂
Anyway, I had all 4 tyres fitted new at the same time and the rears are down to the wear markers whereas the fronts are still fine. Do you just swap all 4 so they’re matching anyway which seems a waste throwing away 2 perfectly good tyres?
I cheaped out last time and got maxxis which to be fair have been alright but want to get F1’s next. Problem is, I can’t bring myself to change the perfectly good fronts. Convince me 😉
I have Goodyear F1 super sport on my R26. Brilliant tyre and under £100 each from Camskill 235/40/18 ! Done a wet tack day at castle Combe and they performed so well ! I will find out tomorrow at Donington what they are like on a dry track day (cold day thou)
Excellent to hear. Please report back after tomorrow? Good luck with them, stay safe.
Hi Mark !! The Bridgestone potenza S007 are amazing I had the Bridgestone S001 ( they not very good)in my Megane RS 4 and changed to the S007 and they are unbelievable in the track , I’ve done 2 seconds less in a track here in Spain with the S007 , it’s the ones the trophy r that done the Nurburgring record!!
All the best mate!!
I think the S007 is on list 1B as well. If so, not an option for me. Thanks for the suggestion.
MarkCup70 Hi mark I believe the S007 are not on 1b list the ones that are are the S007 RFT ....
Nice one Mark!
There is a lot of chatter on babybmw.net about those Eagle F1 Supersport tyres, I think you'll be very impressed.
Also worth noting that the Michelin Pilot Supersports come with two sidewall ratings, I think they are 88Y and 92Y... the 92 offer a harder sidewall so more pointy steering and less squish on cornering. I reckon you'll get through many tyres this year so thought you'd like to know 👍
Keep up the good work!
Ps... drive soon!
Those goodyear eagle f1 supersports supposed to be even better than PS4S on the track. I love PS4's, they just do everything well. Work in the rain and cold too. Why dont you get a spare set of rims, and fit track tyres to those, and use PS4 on the road
Glad I lived through you I won't waste my time with the kumos
Hi! 👋🏽 I watched your video with interest. I have an M140i too, but I don’t race it at all.
My problem is that I had the Michelin Pilot Super Sports on from new, and in the four years I’ve had the car, they have developed some cracking on the shoulders. The forums say that this is due to them getting too cold 🥶 (Between 2018 and now, we did have some snow and it was pretty cold). I was thinking of getting the Michelins again, until you mentioned the Goodyear Eagles.
Have you formed a more rounded opinion on them at all?
I never got around to trying the Eagle F1 SS on my car. Apart from a short drive of Lewis' car which had a set fitted I don't really have enough experience to form an opinion. What little time I did have driving on them they felt good though.
@@MarkCup70 Ok, thanks. I’ll have to see what’s out there and make a choice soon. Last years MOT had it as an advisory, and I feel that I have to do something about it.
Cheers! 👍🏽
Liking the videos Mark, will be very keen to hear your thoughts on the Goodyear’s as I will be replacing my set of Pilot Super Sports sometime this year. Price wise they are about £30 cheaper for a set compared to PS4’s. I don’t do any track driving at all, let us know which tyre you recommend out of the PS4 and F1!
Pay cheap pay twice.
I’ll be interested to see what these new ones are like. I had Eagle F1s assy 2 runflat and went to Michelin PSS and they are miles better. But those Goodyear’s were a very old tyre design.
Mark, I've got the new F1 Supersports on my JCW and I find them fantastic so far. Not cheap but definitely worth it.
Will be very interested to see how you find them should you get them!
Alot of people assume they're the same as old Eagle F1s but they are totally new and more in line with the pilot sport 4 S.
This is what I've heard John and why they're currently top of my list 👍
Great vid as per Mark!
Looking forward to the next one already!
TW
The MSA 1B list states Federal 595 Evo and RS-R's but nothing about RS-Pros. Ive got a set and they are brilliant
* runs to see if they're available in standard M140i sizes.
I am just deciding on new tyres for my M140 now. I had decided on the PS 4s as they were so good on my Alpina...but now you've thrown a spanner in the works with the Goodyear's 🤔
MPSS should be good esp in a sprint if limited to road tyres. The mps4 (not the s version) supposedly isn’t as sporty a tyre.
The trouble is they're not that good in the wet, and I don't want to be caught short if the day of the Autosolo is wet!
Pilot sport 4 are different to pilot super sports
The Goodyear Eagle F1s are great, and the tyre weight itself is very low considering its construction. 👍
That's good to know. There's very little info out there concerning tyre weights unfortunately,
Such a shame Michelin only do the Pilot Sport 4 S in 19 inch and above. 18 inch seems to be the sweet spot for so many cars so surely it would make sense? Shame about the Kuhmos but at least you know now! Be interesting to see how the Goodyears perform? I love a bit of tyre talk! 😊
Ha ha, myself and Lewis quite literally spent 2 hrs talking rubber the other morning 😂😂😂 I love that they have an ability to completely transform the feel, character, and performance of a car.
Even more of a shame to know that they make MP4S in 18 size but just don’t sell them in the uk, can get them in America!
Yeah that's an annoyance to say the least!
I have PS4S’s on my M135i. Within 2 weeks, one rear wheel got a nail in it 😥 €230 for a new wheel, yay.
Thanks for the video mark.Now I understand why the M140i was all over the place, in my recent recent test drive. It had the Bridgestone potenza s001 run flats which are just horrible.
Yeah, I can't recommend strongly enough that run-flat tyres should be binned, immediately!
I found those run flats rubbish. Launch control wouldn't work because couldn't find the grip fidgety on the road and tyre noise is much louder. Can't be repaired either which is what happened to me after 1 month. No idea what BMW are thinking with run flat tyres
john jackson thanks mark 👍👍👍
john jackson hi john. Did you notice a huge improvement after ditching the run flats ?? I test drove an M140i with high expectations and was very disappointed with just how fidgety and dangerous the car felt on a very slight damp rd. it was all over the place with Just half throttle if that ! Borderline dangerous. Now I put all blame to those Bridgestone potenza runflats. I’ll have to try driving one with the Michelin’s
@@adamdar5121 I only had them on for a month because of the flat tyre I was forced to change them. The biggest thing you notice is road noise gets a lot quieter. Then smaller bumps are ironed out a lot more. Big bumps still crash a bit but I put that down to having 19" wheels. Traction is MASSIVELY improved, launch control didn't work with the potenza the rear would just wiggle all over. With the ps4s Michelin no problem at all and feels more confident in the wet as well. For me with run flats it doesn't make the car feel as premium as it should. And that was coming after owning a seat ibiza fr for 6years
Mark I had the F1's on my Mustang, highly recommended.
Why not go for p zeros
PS4 on my 120d with 400nm last 10k.12k at best down to 1.8mm.
Lots of tight curves,s bends,hair pin bends on daily commute of 60miles.Great even wear across the tyre.
New tyres dont come with as much tread as they used to many yrs ago.Hence shorter life for tyres generally.Added to that the appalling state of minor roads and b roads with patch repairs that are never surface level with numerous negative or positive cambers and the high grip surfaces added to roads at various roundabouts etc.
Just drive slower,brake less harshly,turn gently into corners.!!!! Have less fun.Er no thanks 😂
Michelin ps4 are the best all rounders in my opinion. Especially good in the uk with all the wet weather
Agreed, they're the default option really, something I'd happily have and great value considering how they just absorb the miles.
@@MarkCup70 costco normally have great deals on Michelin's too, I payed £156 for the front pair fully fitted
Fallen azensis fk 510 I’m running ATB LSD ON 330 I perfect balance grip and wear wet and dry driving very hard !
I run 19" wheels on my M135i pilot sport 4 s seems the best all round tyre for me for grip and wear 👍
My car's staying standard, wheels an' all so unless Michelin change things, the PS4S is out for me.
Ps... Mark looking at those F1 Supersports. They seem to be £483 fitted for all 4 from Blackcircles, how does that compare to what you've found?
That's pretty much what I've seen them going for Nick,
Nice one Mark. Would Toyo R888r or Nankang Ar1’s be allowed? I had Eagle F1’s and they did really good on my St Focus. Cheers Oliver
Semi slicks are not allowed so I recon r888r won't be allowed to on Goodwood. It's fantasting looking tyre with lots of grip on dry condition. They are bad on wet obviously.
Yep, not allowed in the Autosolo unfortunately.
I'm looking at the Goodyear's as an option for the M car. Just a question of whether they go onto the M513 or 437 alloys. Currently on PSS
Michelin are always my fav on all my cars
That’s a shame those kuhmos didn’t last long. I was going to get those next for my m235i as I don’t like paying Michelin money for tyres. I might try toyo proxys but I think they are very soft too.
That's what I thought, they look almost identical, good dry grip, less wet grip...but the price. What's not to love? Changing them every 3 months is what's not to love LOL
The tyres that last two months 😢 Not good at all..Does depend on mileage though.Had my P7s on over a year and have most of the dread left.Used about 2mm
Maybe try the Michelin PS4s in an XL rating next time?
I have the goodyear eagle f1 on my e90 m3. There crap compared to ps4s. Soft side walls, not great wet grip and not much feel just snaps away.
Potenza s001 were great, conti sport 5s were crap, assymetric 3 were OK, PS4s are incredible. Khumos are great for normal cars but for a high powered car I'd have something better. My wife has the PS91 Khumos on her Q3 and they are great, but 150hp isnt to hard to handle
Get yourself a set of track wheels then you can run the track focused tyres on them and a fast road tyre as daily use?
That's not going to happen. The last time I had additional wheels I ended up needing to buy another shed, I had 22 of them for my 172 Cup at one point 😊
@@MarkCup70 lol! Problem is they're aren't good enough daily tyres that shine on the track, I've got Michelin ps4s's on my s3 which are a great tyre but not as good as the toyo r888r or ad08r yokohamos on the track, it's always going to be a compromise between a great track tyre vs a great daily tyre.
Maybe try yokohoma advan sport next, price not too badddd
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports are amazing I have them on my 240 running around 460 bhp. They even put the power down stupidly well in the wet despite almost an extra 100 ft/ib and HP👐👐 Can't get PS4S on the 18's so these are the next best thing.
This, Callum, is exactly what I hoped to hear 😀
Try continentals..they are soft but the grip is enormous from the first kilometers!!and working very good on dump-wet conditions!!!
They are soft compared to Michelin tyres but no need for warming etc etc..
Unstoppable Gamer the Khumo’s are soft too, hence why they wore out so fast in Mark’s car.
Have you not tried a set of factory set of Pilot Super Sports? By the way Pilot Sport 4's are NOT Super Sports as you said in the vid. PSS in 92Y all round are only £380 the set at costco with the discount code :D
Buy cheap, buy twice
Yokohama Ad08R?
Nope, that's no good for me, it's on list 1B.
I did a set of F1s on my M140i in 7k miles too...... sorry.
Mine did 6k rear haha
EEK!! Too many slideys sir lol, There goes my choice of moving to Kumho's, next tyre i was looking at was Goodyear Supersport R (name sounds familiar eh lol) have a look at Tyre Reviews they done a back to back test on the R and RS versions of the tyre, Also Joe Acillies tested the supersport tyre on an M2 Comp. th-cam.com/video/xg4Tqtbuq9I/w-d-xo.html
Interesting, I'm watching that right away 👍
@@MarkCup70 i suppose you alreday know about Michelin Pilot Cup2? Great trackday tyre, will give you what you felt missing in your 4s tyres. Cup2 also have superior longivety. Also good for daily use, only a little slippery when wet/cold.
Unfortunately they're on list 1B so if I fit them, I can't enter the GRRC Autosolo.
@@MarkCup70 i didn't know there were tyre classification on trackdays. Whatever you choose will be good i bet :)