Exactly why I went with DaVinci+SM4. SM4 is just more interesting to me because it's Simgot's first quadbrid and planar/piezo implementation, and it's just so close tuning-wise to the EM10. Great reviews!
Jaytiss you are my best IEM Tour Guide , at least I'm not lost anymore Thank You for all your great videos . HBB said it's INTENSE, So it's good for younger Audiophile, just not for me , my ears are ringing now...haha....but l still love and enjoy Music just don't listen as loud volume. Thank you again cheers.
Another great review! I really like the way you take our pocket books into consideration so I thank you for that! My mnoney tree is not in bloom so maybe my new set will be between Timmy's set or the Supermix. Thanks again.
Conclusion - be a true audiophile and have IEMs all over the house. Thanks for the comparisons. I think Supermix 4 is so good at that price, not sure spending extra money for EM10 is worth it.
this.. is a excellent review. thank-you. Dunu DaVinci, and Simgot EM10 S tiers for less than $450.00! IEMs just keep getting more refined. A Simgot EM6L, or the new SuperMix 4! Simgot is the bang for buck KING! (just add foam tips.)
Great review and ESPECIALLY the comparisons. I like IEM reviews that do comparisons and I like your opinions. Keep it up!! I subscribed to you today. Btw, I was wondering if you will do a review of the Tanchjim Origin?
It's tough, like I might look into getting one in to borrow. But I have like 4 reviews to do with a few more products coming in. The graph looks really lean, and I'm worried if it'd be for me. I did review the Tanchjim 4u which has a similiar curve.
I would skip Origin , it's pricey l don't think it worth the money for its performance Timmy says things too exactuated , unless price is no object to you..
@Jaytiss I respect that. I would say it's still WORTH IT to try out. It has VERY decent mid-bass and is really clean and clear which is surprising to me since it's only the single dynamic driver. It may come across simbilant to other people but I still think it's definitely worth a try. There is still surprisingly a fullness with the bass. Also with my own comparison against the Chopin, I actually like the Origin better (my personal opinion). But I would still like to hear your thoughts when you ever get a chance 🙏
@@bozardo101 l would skip both , they are amazing mid tier sets ,Pilgrim, Performer 8 , DaVinci , SuperMix4, SM10 are upper / top mid tier sets . Thank You l have the Performer 8 , for a lot of people , it's already an endgame IEM set , but it's picky , they need good seal tips the SpinFit W1 is the best so far l have used or foam tips ,plus upgrade cable NiceHCK GrKing , Burn=In 200-300 hours , Topping E70 Velvet DAC and SMSL SH-6 give 2000mw output on low gain for less forward sound , this give me amazing tonality Grand SubBass and amazing micro details .My portable MoonRiver AMP DAC gives me good power , but slightly lack of refinement that the Topping give me.CHEERS This hobby really depends on how much you're willing to spend , the cheaper set l will end up stay untouched . So go for a better set to avoid regular upgrade instead of buying similar level performance IEMs. My Pick would be Hype 4 , Pilgrim or something better Thank You .
Great review, love the comparisons! Cant decide between these and the Thieaudio hype 4! Both on sale, they are the same price, what would you pick? No brainer im guessing for the Em10. The hypes are just so pretty haha
I like them a lot, but it's tough at this price because so many good stuff. Supermix 4 is a solid budget option, as is Davinci. But I really love the Simgot em10, it's stellar.
@@Jaytiss I'm returning the Hype 4, too bassy and sibilant, and the bling design. So if money wasn't a factor and was to pick between the Supermix 4 and the EM10, which one do you think is better?
Debating between the Explorer, the performer 5 and the Falcon ultra. As my next set. Want a set that hits hard. Love bass. Falcon ultra $163 Explorer $120 P5 $170 The Explorer is newer and looks like the bass hits harder The Falcon Ultra is $90 off on sale and has crazy amount of accessories and great quality. The P5 looks like a very good all arounder with good accessories and is $80 off right now SuperMix is my other pair.
Hi Jaytiss , what is the best recommedation for ear tips ? l ordered both the Hydro and Pilgrim after your reviews and tried the SpinFit w1 , they are really comfortable with good seal for better sound just looking for the best Tips now. Thank You Cheers !
I noticed that in your ranking chart, the EM10 dropped from an S- to an A. Could you explain the reasons for this change? I also found that it is rated similarly to the Pilgrim. Between the two, which do you think is better? I'm considering purchasing one of them.
I redid the way I calculate my ranking so I only need to figure out 7 rating instead of 9 to streamline my process. Both the Pilgrim and em10 are solid sets. It’s very close. I also find the Harmon tuning to be slightly brighter than what I like.
Depends what you want. If you want a Harmon style set with great bass. I can’t think of anything more enjoyable than this. I really like it. The diva or fat freq gm Coukd be options but are way more expensive.
I found many cables with this type of adapter design annoying. I too recently had few accident with Penon cables which easily disconnect if you are using them either outside or in your bed. The better design is like those in Effect Audio ConX, where there is a locking mechanism.
I have the DaVinci which i do like a lot, i was looking for a secondary set, a bit different, maybe SM4 wouldn't be bad, though i already got the EA500LM.
Is the DaVinci worth the extra $ over the SuperMix 4? I’m pretty much stuck between the two and wanna buy before the sale discount codes finish on AliExpress. I have the ability to EQ (with the Qudelix 5K) if that helps with my question?
how's the bass quality compare between supermix4 and em10? akros mentioned the bass of supermix is better? (not sure if he was referring to bass quality or the overall fr balance / quantity) than em10 and I see you rate them both 9 at the moment
@@Jaytiss thanks for the insight, very helpful! was also curious, how about the bass quality of supermix vs aful explorer (which seems to have more midbass)
@@Jaytiss good to see from Aful. sorry one more question if you don't mind; I see reviews mentioning supermix has very low impedance, so a powerful source can sound different (worse or better). so I'm wondering what source do you use for supermix and others
Jaytiss I have the EA500LM (I love them), watching this review: do you think the SuperMix4 is a must buy for upgrading? I'm searching for a real upgrade. I'm planning to buy the DaVinci... so I'm thinking to make 1 or even 2 purchases.
I was wondering if you can eq what you have to whatever you want, then why would i buy a bunch of them instead of getting a good technical one then eq it 🤔
Some guys dont't want to EQ. People are different and enjoy what they want. On that basis just buy a hola and eq. EQ is nice and helpful, but it is problematic if you swap iems a bit to compare.
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016 What I said? "Good technical iem" Do you want your zero drivers to perform like Ltd? a good one like b3 and a good eq program, and you are 90% there for nothing
Why does your em10 graph look different from the other 2 ive seen? Was this revised it had over +12db bass shelf I'm certain your sample is different from the one HBB has on squig, comparing em10 to the same iems
Exactly why I went with DaVinci+SM4. SM4 is just more interesting to me because it's Simgot's first quadbrid and planar/piezo implementation, and it's just so close tuning-wise to the EM10. Great reviews!
Thanks for watching! That's a sold pair of iems!
How does the DaVinci compare to SM4 ?
How do you rate the separation on SM4 7/10 or higher ?? Thank You.
Jaytiss you are my best IEM Tour Guide , at least I'm not lost anymore Thank You for all your great videos .
HBB said it's INTENSE, So it's good for younger Audiophile, just not for me , my ears are ringing now...haha....but l still love and enjoy Music just don't listen as loud volume.
Thank you again cheers.
Thanks a ton. I appreciate the kind words. Enjoy your music. :)
Another great review! I really like the way you take our pocket books into consideration so I thank you for that! My mnoney tree is not in bloom so maybe my new set will be between Timmy's set or the Supermix. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful! It's a silly hobby. XD
Great work on the graphs! 8k alignment is perfect
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I very much like the way you compare the iems!
Thanks for watching.
Conclusion - be a true audiophile and have IEMs all over the house.
Thanks for the comparisons. I think Supermix 4 is so good at that price, not sure spending extra money for EM10 is worth it.
This, exactly this. XD
Great review, very helpful. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
this.. is a excellent review. thank-you. Dunu DaVinci, and Simgot EM10 S tiers for less than $450.00! IEMs just keep getting more refined. A Simgot EM6L, or the new SuperMix 4! Simgot is the bang for buck KING! (just add foam tips.)
That’s key , what you like is most important.
I have SM4. What are good brand foam tips? I am coming back to this hobby after 15 years!
@@TheModeRed I have great luck with Comply tips. Also for silicon I use Dunu S + S. SM4, nice.
Great comparisons!
Thanks for watching!
Great review 👍👍
Glad you liked it
Great review and ESPECIALLY the comparisons. I like IEM reviews that do comparisons and I like your opinions. Keep it up!! I subscribed to you today.
Btw, I was wondering if you will do a review of the Tanchjim Origin?
It's tough, like I might look into getting one in to borrow. But I have like 4 reviews to do with a few more products coming in. The graph looks really lean, and I'm worried if it'd be for me. I did review the Tanchjim 4u which has a similiar curve.
I would skip Origin , it's pricey l don't think it worth the money for its performance Timmy says things too exactuated , unless price is no object to you..
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016 Would you say the Tanchjim Origin is better than the Chopin in your personal opinion?
@Jaytiss I respect that. I would say it's still WORTH IT to try out. It has VERY decent mid-bass and is really clean and clear which is surprising to me since it's only the single dynamic driver. It may come across simbilant to other people but I still think it's definitely worth a try. There is still surprisingly a fullness with the bass. Also with my own comparison against the Chopin, I actually like the Origin better (my personal opinion).
But I would still like to hear your thoughts when you ever get a chance 🙏
@@bozardo101 l would skip both , they are amazing mid tier sets ,Pilgrim, Performer 8 , DaVinci , SuperMix4, SM10 are upper / top mid tier sets . Thank You
l have the Performer 8 , for a lot of people , it's already an endgame IEM set , but it's picky , they need good seal tips the SpinFit W1 is the best so far l have used or foam tips ,plus upgrade cable NiceHCK GrKing , Burn=In 200-300 hours , Topping E70 Velvet DAC and SMSL SH-6 give 2000mw output on low gain for less forward sound , this give me amazing tonality Grand SubBass and amazing micro details .My portable MoonRiver AMP DAC gives me good power , but slightly lack of refinement that the Topping give me.CHEERS
This hobby really depends on how much you're willing to spend , the cheaper set l will end up stay untouched .
So go for a better set to avoid regular upgrade instead of buying similar level performance IEMs.
My Pick would be Hype 4 , Pilgrim or something better Thank You .
Great review, love the comparisons! Cant decide between these and the Thieaudio hype 4! Both on sale, they are the same price, what would you pick? No brainer im guessing for the Em10. The hypes are just so pretty haha
I like them a lot, but it's tough at this price because so many good stuff. Supermix 4 is a solid budget option, as is Davinci. But I really love the Simgot em10, it's stellar.
@@Jaytiss would the em10 be a good complement to the Hype 4 if you already have this? It would it be redundant to have both?
Maybe try the supermix 4. It’s a solid set first. But I do like the em10 as it provides something unique.
@@Jaytiss I'm returning the Hype 4, too bassy and sibilant, and the bling design. So if money wasn't a factor and was to pick between the Supermix 4 and the EM10, which one do you think is better?
Em10. I love it. Feels crazy fun.
Debating between the Explorer, the performer 5 and the Falcon ultra. As my next set. Want a set that hits hard. Love bass.
Falcon ultra $163
Explorer $120
P5 $170
The Explorer is newer and looks like the bass hits harder
The Falcon Ultra is $90 off on sale and has crazy amount of accessories and great quality.
The P5 looks like a very good all arounder with good accessories and is $80 off right now
SuperMix is my other pair.
that's tough, but for a bass specialist the Explorer is a good set.
Hi Jaytiss , what is the best recommedation for ear tips ? l ordered both the Hydro and Pilgrim after your reviews and tried the SpinFit w1 , they are really comfortable with good seal for better sound just looking for the best Tips now. Thank You Cheers !
That’s a good question. W1s are nice tips. Maybe stay with them. Tips are mainly about comfort but can massively impact sound.
Bro the pilgrim is so detailed. I prefer it to some of my 1k plus iems
It's very good!
@@Jaytiss do you prefer davinci or em10? Sounded like they were trading blows
What about Pilgrim vs Monach mk2 or something higher end ? Thank You .
Sub bass on em10, upper mids on Davinci. Depends on the mood. :)
Have you try better tips and what types ? A reviewer recommended the AZLA MAX ear tips , it improved sound well.
I noticed that in your ranking chart, the EM10 dropped from an S- to an A. Could you explain the reasons for this change?
I also found that it is rated similarly to the Pilgrim.
Between the two, which do you think is better?
I'm considering purchasing one of them.
I redid the way I calculate my ranking so I only need to figure out 7 rating instead of 9 to streamline my process. Both the Pilgrim and em10 are solid sets. It’s very close. I also find the Harmon tuning to be slightly brighter than what I like.
Thanks for the review! How come scores change sometimes on your spreadsheet?
Opinions change. I also recently did a few revamps to clean it up on my end.
Super curious about both so got the EM10 and supermix4 😅
I hope that you enjoy them!
is it worth the upgrade from sm4 to em10, i currently consider these iems
@@jokerquy2998 hard to say, I find both a bit too bright rn, but I like the em10 better. On the other hand, Aful Explorer is more my thing currently
What is their separation rating ? 7/10 or higher. Do they sound lean ?
what would you consider a direct upgrade from the simgot em10?
Depends what you want. If you want a Harmon style set with great bass. I can’t think of anything more enjoyable than this. I really like it. The diva or fat freq gm Coukd be options but are way more expensive.
I found many cables with this type of adapter design annoying. I too recently had few accident with Penon cables which easily disconnect if you are using them either outside or in your bed. The better design is like those in Effect Audio ConX, where there is a locking mechanism.
I agree 100%. It's super annoying.
I have the DaVinci which i do like a lot, i was looking for a secondary set, a bit different, maybe SM4 wouldn't be bad, though i already got the EA500LM.
They are really similar. But I like the sm4 sonically more and the fit more, so there is a case depending on what you need.
Is the DaVinci worth the extra $ over the SuperMix 4? I’m pretty much stuck between the two and wanna buy before the sale discount codes finish on AliExpress. I have the ability to EQ (with the Qudelix 5K) if that helps with my question?
I think so! But it's tough, there might a new iem with the same jm 1 tuning from someone else cheaper soon.
SuperMix 4 seems rated higher than the DaVinci,the DaVinci seems to have less air !
I believe both are amazing IEM , Buy them both is ideal.
Yeah try both then decide.
Hey do you think this is worthy of an upgrade to the chopin
It has cleaner bass and a similar sound signature with a great fit. Coukd be a fun upgrade. I see some used ones floating around.
How does it compare to zhulinniao’s qingluanz4? I’m considering changing my headphones recently.
No idea what that is.
how's the bass quality compare between supermix4 and em10? akros mentioned the bass of supermix is better? (not sure if he was referring to bass quality or the overall fr balance / quantity) than em10 and I see you rate them both 9 at the moment
They are very close but I do like the n bass on the en10 more.
@@Jaytiss thanks for the insight, very helpful! was also curious, how about the bass quality of supermix vs aful explorer (which seems to have more midbass)
Honest about the same. Em10 has a more balanced sound Explorer is just a rich deep cannon of bass. Huge suprise from Aful, but pleasant.
@@Jaytiss good to see from Aful. sorry one more question if you don't mind; I see reviews mentioning supermix has very low impedance, so a powerful source can sound different (worse or better). so I'm wondering what source do you use for supermix and others
Is the EM10 an upgrade over the Hype4? (For bass and smooth treble)
Which do you personally enjoy more?
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Em 10 is my bae. I love that set. It's really solid.
@@Jaytiss Thanks!
Would you say the Hype4 is brighter or warmer sounding than the EM10?
It’s close. I think hype is brighter, and em10 is warmer.
@@Jaytisswhich one has more details Hype4 or EM10 JAYTISS ?? I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE PILGRIM, THEY ARE LEAN SOUNDING TO ME !
Jaytiss I have the EA500LM (I love them), watching this review: do you think the SuperMix4 is a must buy for upgrading? I'm searching for a real upgrade.
I'm planning to buy the DaVinci... so I'm thinking to make 1 or even 2 purchases.
Yes, absolutely. It's a great upgrade if you like the LM.
I wounder what kind of filter does it take.
you mean physical filter? Nozzles can't be removed.
@@Jaytiss Ok thanks
Bought it for $290 so no regret
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How? Where was this deal?
@@zblus This was a special discount from one of my local shop so unfortunately no online link
I was wondering if you can eq what you have to whatever you want, then why would i buy a bunch of them instead of getting a good technical one then eq it 🤔
Some guys dont't want to EQ. People are different and enjoy what they want. On that basis just buy a hola and eq. EQ is nice and helpful, but it is problematic if you swap iems a bit to compare.
eq dosen't give you high quality sound , the tonality quality , separation , micro details , you can't eq that at all .
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016
What I said?
"Good technical iem"
Do you want your zero drivers to perform like Ltd?
a good one like b3 and a good eq program, and you are 90% there for nothing
@@AliR03 if you eq the b3 , you still not going to get the Annilinator sound quality.
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016
Yeah, if you would spend 3k for just an iem and 20% improvement for 10× the price
I see. I see
This or xenns top?
Still need to try that one.
@@Jaytiss alright, will wait for that review!
@@JaytissXenns Top +$30 for your Thieaudio Oracle Mk3?
Separation on the Top only 7/10 a little lacking in that area.
Why does your em10 graph look different from the other 2 ive seen? Was this revised it had over +12db bass shelf
I'm certain your sample is different from the one HBB has on squig, comparing em10 to the same iems
A few possible reasons. His was a Sample, mine had some channel imbalance. Also different squigs things look different.
@@Jaytiss aw, this complicates things for me =(, I was under the impression the em10 had significantly more bass than the sm4
I think it’s a bit better and I like it. But unfortunately the two are very close. Bass on the em10 sounds deep rich and of good quality.
@@Jaytiss thanks! I ended up buying the em10, cheers