This episode was great, but what struck me the most was the sincere emotion with which Chris webber spoke of his coaches and idoles, and how he still look up to them, and the immense sense of gratitude you could feel from hearing him speak
I don't think so. I know one or two instances who equally or arguably did better without fanfare. Better yet, let's just check recipients of NBA Community Assist Award.
@@OrionOodama Can you talk a bit more about the context? I am not an nba fan, but just an outsider. To me it feels like it is no big deal at all you know. Once game where he showed bad sportsman ship. Who cares? I feel like it has become a big deal just because Michael Jordan made it one and the media has run with it since.
@@larllockman4749 that’s not what I meant. They wanted to play always wanted to play tough and physical. Until someone was played physically against them. Then they wanted every call. And they wanted to be “bad boys” and now Isaiahs still on TV complaining about not making the dream team and how no one likes them.
@@Kdough_33 The physicality of those pistons teams came from the dirty plays that the Celtics put on them. The Celtics were the dirtiest team in basketball until they fell off in 87. Those dirty plays got them at least 3 trophys and even more Finals appearances.
For all that shiznit they gave that man Isaiah, look what he does for his community.... He'll always be my number one pic. Biggest heart in the league on and off the court💪🏾
exactly..gets a bad name ...he and dominique were my two faves as a kid in the 80s....Isiah is a class act.....not sure what the cat above me is talking about..sounds a bit racist. but sticking to Isiah...I watched him any opportunity I got as a kid...heart of a lion
They hate on Isiah for everything they brag about others… he was competitive, super competitive, played with as much heart as anyone, went through great lengths to win.
This was a really interesting episode because it shined a light on an aspect of Isiah Thomas' time in and around the NBA that I never knew, but this panel had unique insight into it. I was a huge Michael Jordan fan as a kid so I'd always had an aversion to Thomas and the Bad Boys of Detroit. But the respect/reverence with which Chris Webber, Steve Smith, and Grant Hill talked about Thomas teaching, encouraging, and mentoring them [well before they'd made the NBA in some cases] struck me as being a stark contrast from all of the videos I've seen and all of the articles/essays I've read about how Jordan's competitive nature "destroyed" or "broke" his competitors and some of his own teammates. This isn't to say that Thomas is perfect or didn't have his flaws as a player/coach/GM or even that he's a better player than Jordan; none of those statements are true. But he clearly engaged and reached out to others in a way I can't imagine Jordan doing, and I think he deserves respect for that, even from a Jordan fan like myself.
Notice how the mainstream media demonizes Isiah and glorifies MJ, but when you talk to the former players themselves, they hold Isiah on a higher level of respect as a man. Just compare how many HOFs requested Isiah to welcome them into the HOF compared to MJ. That says a lot.
Had watched many "Open Court" episodes and if asked spur of the moment, this is my topmost favorite episode (barring something better came up). Kudos to EJ or anyone who brought the concept of delegating the topic/s to the players. Second, Kenny "The Jet" Smith-less episodes have become personal favorites. He's been a heckler and overly butting in in someone's stories/sharing as if he's the alpha in the panel. Sure, he's a Tar Heel, but without Hakeem in his career he don't deserve to be there. Thankful he went sabbatical at some point during the show's run. Third, C-Webb's sharing/revelations have been eye-opening, like he considered joining Tim Duncan in 2001, which is intertwined with Doug Christie's extension that probably led for him to re-sign as well, plus Christie's trade affected him too in 2005. Few weeks later, he was traded to Philly. Great balance, wonderful insights and storytelling.
Kenny can definitely be annoying and arrogant at times, fully agreed. However, he does show a good understanding of the game, and he’s not as irritating as Shaq when he gets salty and agressive. Kenny should be more like Steve Kerr. Love that dude. Humble, funny and real insightful.
@@production60 Well, "The Jet" must know the game better as he has been on TNT since the late 90s. Problem is, he has Dunning-Kruger effect and disrupted supposed great stories/insights from colleagues several times. Having a know-how never means other people's takes are to be interrupted and denied to unfold, betraying the audience's curiosity. I take Steve Kerr's stories anytime. He's a class act while edgy and competitive if necessary. Remember this is the same man stood for himself when he had enough of GOAT's bullying ways. And as a coach, he meshed the teachings and philosophies of PhilJax and Pop into his.
@@OrionOodama I completely agree, Kenny interrupts the others way too much. I think he feels disrespected or overshadowed by players that were far better than he was. Like he needs to interrupt them to tell his stories, so he feels like he belongs. Meanwhile, Steve Kerr understands, and seems completely at peace with the fact that he was a role player. He brings his different perspective without interrupting the others.
Chris Webber talking about Isaiah coming into their neighbourhood and it's meaning for everyone is powerful. Pity people don't hear these stories and have associated him with the bad boys image purely.
The look on Zeke face when he said "when they said they were changing the culture in Detroit" told me all I needed to kno about how he felt. Might be Mike's top hater 2nd to Nick Wright but unc knows basketball. Real basketball
I'm a Detroit girl and I'm always down for my Pistons and love my Pistons. I love Joe D, I'm his biggest fan, I also like Isiah but the more I watch these Open Courts the more I'm starting love Isiah too. He seems like really nice guy, he's funny and very passionate about basket and the Piston organizations. I was not aware he use to visit the High school and give back. Back then I was elementary school. We totally need the Detroit Bad Boy Culture back in Detroit. Steve Smith and Chirs Webber was so lucky to meet the bad boys when they were young. I've met Budda a couple years ago. I always wanted to met Joe and now I wanna meet Isiah.
Trade issue: Exactly why I don't get mad at the player's these days. They do them so dirty some times. We supposed be understanding about it being "BUSINESS', let's keep that same energy when the player's want to leave on there own... That's all I have to say about that.
@@paesano285 Just saying draymmond might get in the hall of fame. He's still gotta clean up his act though. Every suspension he's gotten, its all on him.
@@nickolaibuck9301 RIGHT. That's the 3peat. If they weren't cheated by the Lakers in 88. Chicago was ready for Detroit. They lost in 5, 6 & 7 games. The Bulls in 6 if Isiah didn't damage his wrist
Can not pardon Isiah for behaving like a douche. Didn't even walk off the court with his head held high. I'm just another guy, but I have zero respect.
Larry Bird walked off without shaking the Pistons hands in the 1988 eastern conference finals. Isiah didn't cry about that the way Jordan did. How much respect do you have for Bird??
It costs less money for NBA franchises to let the NCAA and AAU develop players. Soccer is immensely more profitable because it's the number one sport on Earth, so the money is there to have farm systems. Not so much for any other sport.
@@musicandmagic909 Yep. And now with name image and likeness dollars available to the players, there really is no incentive for a player to go into the minor leagues or for the NBA to develop a minor-league system
Isiah Thomas and grant hill played for Detroit pistons and Chris webber for Michigan and Steve Smith Michigan state. They all have that connection except 3D I think.
I disagree there are a lot of aau coaches that are geniune and helping kids stay out of trouble and helping them become better people and players but at the same time it’s all about exposure sponsorships and showcasing talent instead of teaching winning and fundamentals so I agree with grant hill on that
Dennis Smith’s topic made them just all seem like old dudes. Some points very valid. Other comments were just shots “kids don’t play pickup anymore” maaaan stop. That’s a reflection of the community not the kids
If they were still doing open court today, I feel like they would do a whole episode about the bullshit Ben SImmons pulled after he was traded to the nets.
Laughable when ppl talk about players aren’t loyal to the team or city! When the franchise doesn’t want them anymore the players find out on tv or in another cold way!
C Webb has no problem with calling fellow AAU teammates who didn’t start scrubs. He has no problems calling nba teammates others or rah rah guys. I’m sure it was tough being a teammate of a person like that.
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they should bring this back, let's start a petition lmao
Woah. I didn't know "Open Court" is already cancelled should my understanding in your comment is correct.
Thanks for bringing that up.
I'll volunteer 🙋♂️
Dam straight!!!
Signed
They could bring in quite a few new guys, too, who are now doing more on TV. D Wade, KG, Vince Carter, etc.
"Hey Smitty. I talked to Juanita. Jordan gonna get 50 tonight" that is one of the funniest things I've ever heard
This episode was great, but what struck me the most was the sincere emotion with which Chris webber spoke of his coaches and idoles, and how he still look up to them, and the immense sense of gratitude you could feel from hearing him speak
He's such a good dude, pays tribute to those who came before him and mentors the new generation at the same time
Yeah CWebb is good people.
Yeah C. Webb was in his element on these discussions.
The influence isiah had on the nba community is unmatched
I don't think so.
I know one or two instances who equally or arguably did better without fanfare.
Better yet, let's just check recipients of NBA Community Assist Award.
Lol, you really said IT’s influence in the NBA is unmatched 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Oeletedjust say you don't know nothing about NBA basketball
"If you live right, you play right." - Isiah spitting facts.
Too bad, he didn't completely walk the talk.
The 1991 walkout instantly comes to mind.
@@OrionOodama The walkoff is not basketball so that doesn't count.
@@DefSquadFan
Huh? "Living right" includes how we conduct ourselves in basketball, out of it, and in between.
There must be no exceptions or excuses.
@@OrionOodama Can you talk a bit more about the context? I am not an nba fan, but just an outsider. To me it feels like it is no big deal at all you know. Once game where he showed bad sportsman ship. Who cares?
I feel like it has become a big deal just because Michael Jordan made it one and the media has run with it since.
@@OrionOodama You're gunna take one moment to categorize a mans whole life smh.
u can tell isiah really prided himself on the culture he built in Detroit, one of the most misunderstood players ever fr
He was a bad boy… until someone did it to him then he was a cry baby
@@Kdough_33 bro wtf would u hav been doin if a huge guy split ur head open
@@larllockman4749 that’s not what I meant. They wanted to play always wanted to play tough and physical. Until someone was played physically against them. Then they wanted every call. And they wanted to be “bad boys” and now Isaiahs still on TV complaining about not making the dream team and how no one likes them.
@@Kdough_33 The physicality of those pistons teams came from the dirty plays that the Celtics put on them. The Celtics were the dirtiest team in basketball until they fell off in 87. Those dirty plays got them at least 3 trophys and even more Finals appearances.
maybe the toughest pound for pound of all time. the man plain and simple
I love how C Webb respect his elders and admire each one of them..
He was raised right. You know his parents and family are proud of how he carries himself
I love Chris Webber's admiration for Isiah
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MICHAEL JORDAN INSTEAD 😎
For all that shiznit they gave that man Isaiah, look what he does for his community.... He'll always be my number one pic. Biggest heart in the league on and off the court💪🏾
They give us all shyt think about it and love to hate us#weallwegot
exactly..gets a bad name ...he and dominique were my two faves as a kid in the 80s....Isiah is a class act.....not sure what the cat above me is talking about..sounds a bit racist. but sticking to Isiah...I watched him any opportunity I got as a kid...heart of a lion
Just say shit
They hate on Isiah for everything they brag about others… he was competitive, super competitive, played with as much heart as anyone, went through great lengths to win.
Whos they?
This was a really interesting episode because it shined a light on an aspect of Isiah Thomas' time in and around the NBA that I never knew, but this panel had unique insight into it. I was a huge Michael Jordan fan as a kid so I'd always had an aversion to Thomas and the Bad Boys of Detroit. But the respect/reverence with which Chris Webber, Steve Smith, and Grant Hill talked about Thomas teaching, encouraging, and mentoring them [well before they'd made the NBA in some cases] struck me as being a stark contrast from all of the videos I've seen and all of the articles/essays I've read about how Jordan's competitive nature "destroyed" or "broke" his competitors and some of his own teammates. This isn't to say that Thomas is perfect or didn't have his flaws as a player/coach/GM or even that he's a better player than Jordan; none of those statements are true. But he clearly engaged and reached out to others in a way I can't imagine Jordan doing, and I think he deserves respect for that, even from a Jordan fan like myself.
Shaq and KG have spoken highly of Isiah and what he did for them as young players, too!
Notice how the mainstream media demonizes Isiah and glorifies MJ, but when you talk to the former players themselves, they hold Isiah on a higher level of respect as a man. Just compare how many HOFs requested Isiah to welcome them into the HOF compared to MJ. That says a lot.
This up there as a favorite open court episode
Same here bro
100%
Which one is the undisputed #1 for you?
@@DefSquadFan the one where they talked about the 50 greatest players and then picking the next 10, so funny, so petty just amazing
I'm a big fan of the "moments" episode.
Picking their nemesis, oh man....🤣
"Smithie, i talked to Juanita. He gonna get 50" ROFL
IT would be a great salesman. love he stands up to tell his stories
When I was younger I liked watching Steve Smith play ball in Atlanta and the trail blazers also like watching him on opencourt
He’s by far my favorite when he’s on open court
I didn't expect this random episode of Open Court to be so interesting! nice upload!
Likewise. My best episode among what is available here.
C Webb was really emotional about trading of Doug Christie. I feel sad for him man.
He knew that it was the beginning of the end for Sac-town. and I'm sure it still frustrates him today. He got traded to Philly a few weeks later.
I love watching open court. I wish they’d bring it back.
Had watched many "Open Court" episodes and if asked spur of the moment, this is my topmost favorite episode (barring something better came up).
Kudos to EJ or anyone who brought the concept of delegating the topic/s to the players.
Second, Kenny "The Jet" Smith-less episodes have become personal favorites. He's been a heckler and overly butting in in someone's stories/sharing as if he's the alpha in the panel. Sure, he's a Tar Heel, but without Hakeem in his career he don't deserve to be there. Thankful he went sabbatical at some point during the show's run.
Third, C-Webb's sharing/revelations have been eye-opening, like he considered joining Tim Duncan in 2001, which is intertwined with Doug Christie's extension that probably led for him to re-sign as well, plus Christie's trade affected him too in 2005. Few weeks later, he was traded to Philly.
Great balance, wonderful insights and storytelling.
Kenny can definitely be annoying and arrogant at times, fully agreed. However, he does show a good understanding of the game, and he’s not as irritating as Shaq when he gets salty and agressive.
Kenny should be more like Steve Kerr. Love that dude. Humble, funny and real insightful.
@@production60
Well, "The Jet" must know the game better as he has been on TNT since the late 90s. Problem is, he has Dunning-Kruger effect and disrupted supposed great stories/insights from colleagues several times. Having a know-how never means other people's takes are to be interrupted and denied to unfold, betraying the audience's curiosity.
I take Steve Kerr's stories anytime. He's a class act while edgy and competitive if necessary. Remember this is the same man stood for himself when he had enough of GOAT's bullying ways. And as a coach, he meshed the teachings and philosophies of PhilJax and Pop into his.
@@OrionOodama I completely agree, Kenny interrupts the others way too much. I think he feels disrespected or overshadowed by players that were far better than he was. Like he needs to interrupt them to tell his stories, so he feels like he belongs. Meanwhile, Steve Kerr understands, and seems completely at peace with the fact that he was a role player. He brings his different perspective without interrupting the others.
I am a big Sacramento Kings fan but I can understand how hard it is to be in that kind of market Chris Webber has my respect
"Ken Norman. Oh he funny?....DIFFERENT funny.". lol
32:55 Isiah was proud of who Webber become
C-Webb's HoF speech, man. I was the same as Zeke, doing the thing with the toungue pressed against the inner cheek to stop from crying.
One of my favorite sports shows! S/o to Open Court 💯
Chris Webber talking about Isaiah coming into their neighbourhood and it's meaning for everyone is powerful.
Pity people don't hear these stories and have associated him with the bad boys image purely.
The look on Zeke face when he said "when they said they were changing the culture in Detroit" told me all I needed to kno about how he felt. Might be Mike's top hater 2nd to Nick Wright but unc knows basketball. Real basketball
Facts
I'm a Detroit girl and I'm always down for my Pistons and love my Pistons. I love Joe D, I'm his biggest fan, I also like Isiah but the more I watch these Open Courts the more I'm starting love Isiah too. He seems like really nice guy, he's funny and very passionate about basket and the Piston organizations. I was not aware he use to visit the High school and give back. Back then I was elementary school. We totally need the Detroit Bad Boy Culture back in Detroit. Steve Smith and Chirs Webber was so lucky to meet the bad boys when they were young. I've met Budda a couple years ago. I always wanted to met Joe and now I wanna meet Isiah.
Ive met Joe Dumars...my brother even dated his niece..he is a very Humble and nice man & low key a comedian lol
Webber's conversation with Jerry west is exactly what nba players now should listen to
When you are talking to the fucking LOGO try and learn something
I love these episodes. Used to watch them with my dad. Miss those days. 😢
Thank you, I've been waiting for someone to upload this
i´ve been searching this one the last days hours afters hours...thx, greatings from argentina
Somebody else uploaded this like 5 years ago lmao
Trade issue:
Exactly why I don't get mad at the player's these days. They do them so dirty some times. We supposed be understanding about it being "BUSINESS', let's keep that same energy when the player's want to leave on there own... That's all I have to say about that.
legit thinking about running a kickstarter to get these guys in the same room again
anytime I can find these I always rewatch over and over
Great questions! Better answers! Proud strong brothers on the panel!
Zeke is the real godfatherr of the NBA. He has mentored more players than any other player.
chris webber needs more flowers that dude is intelligent as hell
Ohhhh Michael Jordan gone be jumping highhhhhhh lololololololo 27:10
3:13 isiah jellied tf out that dude😂
And with the left!
This show is one of my happy places.
Smitty I talked to Jaunita, he gone get 50🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Ooooo Michael Jordan’s gon be jumpin hiiiigh” Ken Norman was a stone cold fool 😂🤣
Oh, thank you.
I didn't get the punchline when Smitty pulled it off.
Thank you..I live for these lol
Best basketball show ever.. I want it back in the worst way..
amen ZEC about the money that is why I am no longer really a sports fan plus there is no loyalty among the owners, the players ect
26:40 i was in tears since Stevie started talking about Norman hahahahah
AWESOME & NECESSARY! Ernie J MVP
With the exception of Magic Johnson, Steve Smith is the best player to come out of MSU.
are you sure about that? There's guy in GSW right now.
I haven’t forgot about Draymond. He is certainly in the conversion but for me it’s Steve Smith….just my opinion.
@@paesano285 Just saying draymmond might get in the hall of fame. He's still gotta clean up his act though. Every suspension he's gotten, its all on him.
34:44 damnn Isiah would've ripped someone's heart out right there n then
Facts
I've always live Steve Smith on these things he always has a lot to say.
Now that ESPN has ended The Jump they should do something like this to fill that hour every day
I'm honestly surprised that this show didn't take off. It's so good.
@@samfisher2306 hopefully something similar to this happens in the future specially with Disney now owning ESPN and adding more stuff to ESPN +
The first segment is great they are all connected
This were the real guys, glad I saw it
I really believe the Pistons would've threepeated if Isiah hadn't injured his wrist practicing before the 91 playoffs
Naw
@@rastafarri4953 yaw
They would’ve threepeated if Kareem doesn’t get the phantom foul on him in 1988
@@nickolaibuck9301 RIGHT. That's the 3peat. If they weren't cheated by the Lakers in 88. Chicago was ready for Detroit. They lost in 5, 6 & 7 games. The Bulls in 6 if Isiah didn't damage his wrist
Thanks Gerry, haven’t seen this one yet
In minute 33:22 that should be played to all the new generations of today
❤ & ✊ to all these legends
Chris Webber is usually awful on these. But he absolutely shined on this one.
34:44 man zeke is hella scary
He seems to nice to be the head of the bad boys! Lol love em anyway!
Smithy, Open Court's Iron Man 😅
I talked to juanita he’s gonna get 50
I legit thought that was ashy larry on the thumbnail yo NO LIE! 😂😂
23:35 Smitty knew hahahahaha
Assistant Coach says "Ronnie's been traded..."
I said; "WHATDAF*CK, BEFORE THE GAME?"
Once you hear it, you cant unhear it from D Scott.
Open Court was my favorite show, I don't know why they stop producing the show 🤷🏽♂️
Grant hill and Steve smith look alike man
They look nothing alike other than being like skinned black men ..I hope they never need you for a police lineup to identify a black man
Chris Webber Keeps it so real lol.
I talked to Juanita. He gonna get 50
Lmfaooo
Can not pardon Isiah for behaving like a douche.
Didn't even walk off the court with his head held high.
I'm just another guy, but I have zero respect.
Larry Bird walked off without shaking the Pistons hands in the 1988 eastern conference finals. Isiah didn't cry about that the way Jordan did. How much respect do you have for Bird??
I wish Shaq was on this show to defend himself for the funniest teammates segment
the league is no good now. too much money. IT is 100% right. not many care now just want to be paid and have a hot girlfriend
I didn’t stand up to pee until I saw my dad peeing standing up.
Thanks alot, this one had disappeared from YT for a while!
Nba teams should do what soccer teams do. Build farm teams from early, help train talent.
It costs less money for NBA franchises to let the NCAA and AAU develop players. Soccer is immensely more profitable because it's the number one sport on Earth, so the money is there to have farm systems. Not so much for any other sport.
@@musicandmagic909 Yep. And now with name image and likeness dollars available to the players, there really is no incentive for a player to go into the minor leagues or for the NBA to develop a minor-league system
the tanking teams don't get that winning is an investment in the fanbase
Isiah Thomas and grant hill played for Detroit pistons and Chris webber for Michigan and Steve Smith Michigan state. They all have that connection except 3D I think.
3d with grant hill. Both from the dmv
There's a connection between 3D and Ernie. The state of Georgia
i always love the insight
zekes question was for carmelo anthony
“There’s been slippage” - Isiah Thomas
I disagree there are a lot of aau coaches that are geniune and helping kids stay out of trouble and helping them become better people and players but at the same time it’s all about exposure sponsorships and showcasing talent instead of teaching winning and fundamentals so I agree with grant hill on that
He need this shiii back !!!
14:55 steve smith talks about the youth
Awesome, no Kenny Smith..
Ahahahah Kenny is cool
Hahahaha!
I'm with you. Interestingly, The Jet-less "Open Court" episodes are good ones.
Hope you'd able to watch it all, not sure on my end.
Dennis Smith’s topic made them just all seem like old dudes. Some points very valid. Other comments were just shots “kids don’t play pickup anymore” maaaan stop. That’s a reflection of the community not the kids
7:45.." In Detroit there's an Eastside and a Westside....2 different sides...".REALLY Smitty?
My dad was born and raised on the Eastside. That was in the 40s and 50s, and it was tougher than the Westside even back then.
If they were still doing open court today, I feel like they would do a whole episode about the bullshit Ben SImmons pulled after he was traded to the nets.
Thank you
What Isiah has to say about the Pistons' culture is why they're a garbage fire today.
Laughable when ppl talk about players aren’t loyal to the team or city! When the franchise doesn’t want them anymore the players find out on tv or in another cold way!
Blah blah blah
Dennis Scott has the in of a crazy squirrel ... lol, he can't complete a sentence, is he ok? Like health wise?
Islier is so good and a good person he still hate the God MJ
Can you upload Bragging Rights? (Open court)
Love these
Why are the same people constantly on
24:27
28:03
dam i wish shaq was in this one dam hahaha
why the fuck they got tony parker on every single tv in this episode. hahahah. im a die hard spurs fan, love tony but like.... why hahahhaa
I guess he declined or like any Spur, he's not fond of this kind of gathering.
1990 cellphone?
Y'all aint got no money is fantastic. crack up
C Webb has no problem with calling fellow AAU teammates who didn’t start scrubs. He has no problems calling nba teammates others or rah rah guys. I’m sure it was tough being a teammate of a person like that.
😊
Somebody gonna choose to die soon again
AAU is broken.
Ben Simmons