Comparisons do not get much better than this sir with your combination of in depth article with text and graphs as well as video footage and discussion to highlight the nuances. Thank you for taking the time to film, investigate and provide this footage for free! Much appreciated. Watching from the UK, thumbs up.
Ryan if you liked that all of robs videos are this in depth if not more, I love this channel because they don't stop with a simple unboxing followed by a short demonstration.
Fantastic review on nail guns. As a carpenter in Ireland I can't appreciate the usefulness of a gun. And I can happily say I am the owner of four paslode nail guns. Great job guys, subscribed.
I love this channel for no BS honest reviews. No favoritism to any brand. It is 4 year old video that means every brand got better and there is more competition.
he is hands down the best guy to review tools i think, i would be honored if was a tool brand and he gave my tool a good review. like what he said about the paslode nailer only using that size nail, which causes a domino effect of issues. Thats how deep the engineering should be thinking when trying to make the best product. i do appliance installation and there are soo many complications that dont even get seen, and you have to scratch your head and say "how could they not think of this? HOW?"
Excellent discussion @10:56 regarding the Paslode 3.25 x .131 nails and the ESR-1539 report. I am considering the Paslode nailer, but was unsure how to handle the lack of 3.5 nails. It is very helpful to know that there is a solution to this limitation. I think I could also use an educational video describing the contents / results of the ESR-1539. Thanks again.
My Paslode is over 15 years old and is still hanging in there. It’s not used every day but it’ll do a full day framing with very few misfires. Great bit of kit. Seeing this video made me realise I dont need to upgrade. Cheers for the review
@@sethgauby8730 just now purchased my first ever pass nail gun I have no idea what to expect at all. I have no experience using tools. Honestly, just got it just because. There is no excuses.😂
What an absolute phenomenal video you and your team have created here. Hats off to you. This should have way more than 30k views worldwide for a 3 month video - consider adding some more words that users may search for in the video title to get it to pop up on a few more searches. Thanks a lot for all the in depth info and description you have given here.
Your Head-2-Heads are the best part of TBB! I suggest doing an updated Head-to-Head for cordless battery-operated framing nailers since DeWalt has an updated design and Milwaukee has entered the market. Looking forward to it!
I've been using Paslode for years, along with my co-workers and they are hard to beat. I am still on my original framing and finish nailer, neither has failed me yet.
Me too! My frammer gun is a 2001 manufacture & my finish gun a 2005!!!! Still both going super strong! Reflected by maintenance & suitable usage too though! ( As a building contractor...)
this is VERY well done informative video. It's really appreciated taking the time to do a thorough comparison like this. You covered ALL the area's and answered basically any questions we would have with great presentation and production quality. Pro level. Again, really appreciated. I'm tied into dewalt products so probably will just pull the trigger on the dewalt, the bump fire feature looks INSANE! So fast.
Dewalt and Bostitch are owned by Stanley Black and Decker. Within the last couple of years the assembly of numerous Dewalt tools was moved from Mexico to Greenfield Indiana.
thanks for sharing. I'm currently in the market for a cordless nailer and because of this information I think I'm staying put and probably go with a pneumatic type for now. I'll wait until current models are redesigned.
I owned the paslode and the dewalt, after winter use in Canada and being sick of buying gas canisters, i sold the paslode. the big reason i love the dewalt is the bump trigger when reaching out in awkward positions where it is nearly impossible to reach out and depress the tip and hold gun.
@@BlueZirnitra Thanks for correcting me. Now it is my turn to be a pedantic asshole and point out a mistake you made. You should know that there needs to be a comma after "Paslode, as there is a clear pause in your sentence.
I live in Canada and use the Hitachi gas unit you mention...excellent tool! I am not a pro,just a Farmer that builds a lot of out buildings...fantastic service from the Hitachi,and I did buy it online like you mentioned.The gas cylinder lasts a long time ..so I recommend a buy on this nailer.
Considering getting the Makita first fix, as a multi trader I wont be used all the time but what you've showed me its still a good powerful nailer! Thanks for the review!!
I’ve been cleaning paslode nailers for a while now and I must say, they are very easy to clean. They should be cleaned after every job or at least when battery is spent.
Twice a week minimum we found. Fickle things really. Was on a crew once with a hitachi, a makita and my two paslodes the hitachi had never been cleaned and was two years old the makita has been cleaned once and was 18 months old. Mine were 10 years old at the time and as problematic as you could get all but the hitachi broke down that week all requiring parts. I cleaned all four guns end of the week
My crew's standard is the Metabo HPT/Hitachi nailer but we have a paslode cordless and it"s the only cordless we use. Our other nailer is a Ridgid pneumatic that we keep around just for it's crazy power for use with LVL beam assembly.
I sell Paslode tools in the field for a wholesale distributor. This was a comprehensive comparison- but one of Paslode's selling points is the driver blade life. They claim that DeWalt's driver blade require more frequent replacement- an expensive procedure, only adding to the cost of ownership. Nice job!
The trouble is nearly everything works well when it's new. I tried the Makita when my old paslode im350 eventually died on me but it was nothing but trouble,issues from the start & was always being sent for repair,not up to Makita's usual standards. My experience with the Dewalt was it was reliable enough at the start but kept breaking the guide springs,with the clumsiness and weight of it I didn't like it & after 8 months it totally failed .Anybody thinking of buying the Dewalt should note the guarantee is invalid after 36,000 nails! I've found that in general the best on the market pound for pound is Paslode,the newer Im360ci is more powerful than anything I've used before,works well in cold weather & the lithium ion batteries last much longer,the best nailer I've used to date.
Just bought the DeWalt. Returned it after a day. Just would not consistently sink 3 1/2" nails. Replaced it with the paslode. Even though you need the gas cartridge it is a superior nailer.
I still have my Paslode frammer gun from 2001 & it goes awesome still after 21 years of contractor use! BUT I clean it regularly ( this aids in power performance massively so...) & I clean it my self - it's really not that hard to be honest.... I am super thorough when i do it though. I mean piston out & piston rings & bump stop. It's an extreme clean but it's worth it i think. I am amazed that when i clean the barrel it has no wear marks in it after that many years of trade/contractor useage..... I have put on the later model ( as on the Paslode in your video) quick adjustment "depth of drive" unit, it just uses the same Allen Head screws. To be noted : the same could be done to the Makita unit as it is essentially a copy of the Paslode gun. Mostly gas powered guns start to miss fire or won't fire because they're dirty inside. It's the very most common cause..,... I confirmed it with several gun service technicians when i use to get them to clean my gun.... ALWAYS ALWAYS use the Paslode Purple gun lubricating oil, NEVER EVER use anything else - it can't stand the I.C.E temperature generated. Basically, just treat em right & clean them periodically.....
Hats off to me Rob you did an outstanding explanation of this nailer tools you are a true professional now I believe I can comfortably go and buy my new nailer gun!
Another thing I realized was alot of people say these things are high maintenance,what most people don't realize half the time is there's alot of times ,even at the box stores the gas is old,if the stuff has been sitting a while it goes bad and the gun will not fire or fire erratically,always check the date on the cylinder before you buy,I've bought cylinders brand new from places that were past their date
I own a passlode and beat it to death, literally. I replaced it with the hitachi and am very happy that I did. While the hitachi is heavier or had several advantages. It is not subject to not firing like the gas guns are in cold temps. It does not require maintenance like the gas guns. It fires full round nails and there is no detective work needed to figure out why it's not working.
Been in the game 35 years. We used to use air tanks and short hoses at nursing homes to be portable and no hoses to trip over. At one point I modified my scuba tanks to work for nailing.I've been a fan of paslode sense the early days. Believe me they had their growing pains. There have been many FAILED attempts to make a better cordless nail gun ( remember the bammer) . Still think that paslodes got them beat. I agree about the 3.5 nails. We do both remodeling and new construction. When we are in full framing we have Senco air guns and paslodes ( can shoot the same nails). Would be great to show the progression of cordless nail guns. I think it was senco that made a battery operated gun with a tiny compressor in it?
NiCad and NiMH battery operated tools in the test also had the advantage of less voltage drop/charge cycle. That only applies if all the battery packs were of the same or similar amp/hour and voltage rating though. Lithium battery packs have more voltage sag under load when at half or lower in the charge cycle.
Generally I dont like cordless tools. Especially drills. A 45.00 plug in drill kicks tthe butt of almost any cordless drill. Im doing high volume. Speed and consistant power. I have cordless tools. Love the cordless finish nailer for ceiling work. Thinking about a cordless framer cause hoses get heavy. Excellent comprehensive review sir. Ill buy none of them. Too slow. My senco older frame pro is as fast as a sewing machine on plywood floors and shear walls. All day it adds up more work done = more money.
So I live in canada and I know you were talking about cold weather problems, well a compressor doesn't work well in the cold either, a few I've used wouldmt work below -20
Great comparison for newbs getting started. You talked about cold temps below 20 being a problem, but running a compressor and pneumatic guns with moisture in the system is a much bigger problem. I have Senco guns and for big all day jobs above 30 its pneumatic. But for cold days and light use days it cordless. Pasload set the bar and I still have Pasload but the new Dewalt is faster and cheaper to run and interchanging batteries with the 20v platform means I don't care about nails per battery, it takes only a second to change it. Buy the way the gun comes with the smallest 2ah battery for a reason. No need for the flexvolt on the guns. Now there are days when the Dewalt jambs up and I feel like throwing it off the roof but far less than running out of pasload gas when I thought I had more, and when everyone forgets to slide the battery pack back a position its always dead. Is the battery dead or is it out of gas? The back of the dewalt has a flashing light when the battery is running low. Tools are always going to be a guy's preference. Use what works for you but realize nothing is perfect for all conditions. By the way picking up muddy air hoses and rolling up cords and loading a compressor every day creates its own challenges
Paul, obviously everyone has different experiences but I have had the complete opposite problem. I absolutely love DeWalt and own nearly every power tool they make, both corded and cordless. The ONLY one that I loathe, is the cordless framer. I love the cordless finish nailer and the cordless brad nailer, but the framer just continued to jam on me during jobs. I have not had nearly the same issues with my Paslode CF325XP. Haha.. just kind of humorous to read that someone had the exact opposite experience.
Another great video. Has all the info needed for deciding on/purchasing a new tool. Keep up the good work. P.S. any temperature at or below freezing is cold in Canada too, especially with exposed skin.
At our business we do a lot of vinyl decks in Maryland, DC & Virginia, we need to put hundreds of 2-3/4 nails in 1/2 plywood and Paslode never have put me down not even at temperatures bellow 30F degrees, I want to get the DeWalt as well; glad to know it can keep up, definitely my next purchase to get along with our Paslode
Great video rob, the paslodes over here in the U.K. Take 90mm nails which is 3 1/2 inches, strange why it only takes a 3 1/4...also we have the paslode im360ci nailer(which I have 2 of)I've used a lot of nailers including the ones you have on test and the Im360ci is by far the best I've ever used, it has an injection system which is temperature regulated for best cold weather performance, battery and gas level indicators and the power and consistency of nail driving is far superior to any other nailer, strange why you don't have it over in the us....it's usually you who has all the good tools and we get all the rubbish
James Hennin i have the dewalt its problematic and only likes thick gauge nails, really its shite! The hitachi is awful to use also! I have 2 360ci's and am in love with them, never miss a beat and by far the best performance of any gun.
michael frazer i have 2 360ci's i would highly recommend them! Buying a 350 never entered my mind they are not as good and dont have the cold weather gas system!
Good vid…Paslode is the way to go bar none. I’ve had two F350S pneum Framemaster Plus’ for decades and they’ve never failed, have two new cordless CFN325’s and they’ve been perfect so far. All about taking some sort of decent care of them and a little common sense maintenance along the way. Again…good vid and to the point!
Mate what a good test! Very fair and impartial. Agree with paslode being the n.o1. Here in New Zealand our paslosde come standard to take 90mm (3.5'') nails which covers us sweet as. Strange you don't get them in north america
My friend has a paslode and I like it, but I don't like the batteries, the gas cartridges, or the special nails. Being the cheap and clever pup I am I came up what I consider a much better solution. Most of this was stuff I had kicking around the house, but buying new would not be prohibitive. I should also mention that I do most of my framing out of rough cut white oak 2x4's. They are very tough. You can not hand nail them. My system is a 24oz "paintball" CO2 tank, with a fitting that takes it to a standard CGA320 fitting. I have a CI2 regulator that I set to between 100 and 125 PSI on that mates with that. and that terminates with a regular female air quick connect fitting. I connect one of the sort rubber "scrap end" air hoses from HF between that and my old trusty blue HF nail gun and I am good for about 200 nails, or more air staples or brads than you would care to count In the house I have a "dip tube" CO2 tank and a paintball tank refilling manifold (under $30 on eBay). I have a scale too so I can ensure that I don't overfill my little tank but truthfully I don't even screw around with that anymore. Just charge it until the frost line in the little tank hits the top of neck and you are good to go. I like it because I can use it with any air tool. I doubt it would run an impact for long but if you have a really stuck tractor tire out in the field it may be worth trying before dragging a generator and compressor out... My customers also seem facented by it. I have gotten a lot of really positive comments. It is not the tool for building a house, but if you want to frame in a new wall, door or window for somebody, it is just great. I also make my own fizzy water and have a regular non siphon tube tank and regulator in the house. If I ever get a big off grid job and I don't need me generator for my saw, I can abscond that and do the same thing. If you use a cordless nailer every day, the brand name ones may be worth it, but if you use them intermittently and or for small jobs, my system is cheap and effective.
The batteries are the best out of them all, smaller click half way to off and last far longer than any other, I have never used up a paslode battery in one day when fully charged, the gas is more powerful than just battery and they all use special nails what ever do you mean? There are certainly generic 30 degree nails available everywhere, Grip rite, lumber yards have another generic and even harbor freight.
I used a paslode a nice few times now on the job site and some of my fellow crew members droped it up in the attic lol rafters and fell down below to the ground on concert about 20 to 30 feet and it still worked it is robust not to motion it works well in cold weather. the only downside is like he said 3 1/4 nails and they don't hold very well compareing to the galinzied nails I used before that
Nice video ... But it did prove my point... We have both Pasloade and Dewalt because the new kids cry about having to haul air lines .. I'm old school and still remember when the big N80s first came out. I'll stick with my old compressor and air line and my old Bostich air nailer... Never lets me down no matter the weather and I can frame and nail ANYTHING all day with zero hassles Thanks for the good review though.It helped prove my point... they are all Almost as good as air... Its what I needed to hear
Thank god someone has finally said it! Everyone raving about dewalts bumpfire mode but anyone who is even half decent with a single fire nailgun can basically bumpfire by hand alone. Not hard at all
interesting about the ecc reports. here 3 1/4s are the standard size used for structural connections. it's all I see on thr shelves at the different suppliers. I've only played around with the Dewalt but I noticed the weight immediately, the balance on it will definitely fatigue a user quicker
I have the dewalt, works great, obviously not as well as any pneumatic. Trade off made for convenience is worth it not having to haul out everything and having a hose get hung up on everything especially when working off ladders and high places.
20 degree cold weather? HAHAHA, I’ve used Paslode in -36 Celsius sheeting a 300 square roof in Northern Ontario and it performed beautifully, the occasional misfire but was extremely happy with its range of use
I really wish the Hitachi cordless was included. But great review none the less. I pretty much agree with the opinions expressed in the video. Cordless is great for a small quick job but ,at this point in time, will not replace the numatic nailers for all day all week work. My optimistic hope is the 3rd generation versions will be able to let me leave the compressor n hose home loll
When Pasload gas first came out, They was the first. Cold weather back then was not recommended because you could crack the cylinder head. That was early 90s It would take warm up shots to sink a 8d in less than 30f weather. In any rate I do not miss the gas smell. And LVLs are super tough. even the air nailers of old would not sink nails completely when using a 3/14. But has been a long time since I framed homes
Thank you very much for these videos, much appreciated and needed throughout the community. I constantly find myself having to explain the benefits of paslodes to uninformed people, now I can just show them the videos.
I have a Makita, worst investment I ever made. I'm going to give it a good send off by smashing it with a hammer into a million pieces, that's how frustrating it is. I came here looking to purchase a paslode. Great review mate.
One of my colleagues just got one and was disappointed it does the job and if you are on milwaukee it is fine but not just him but many others have said to me that.it isn't as nice as the bosch, dewalt makita, hilti etc. Thats not to say iut doesnt work it does it just isnt that great
I hope to see an updated version of this soon with the Milwaukee, my personal experience the Milwaukee is 10x better than the current model Dewalt. Much bigger difference than in the Brad nailer category
Cheers for the good head to head I have a Stanley Bostich first fix nailer and think it’s a god overall gun but just ordered a set of first and second fix dewalt guns nd looking forward to field testing my new shootin irons
Intersiting video. Totally agree that paslode is still the industry leader. You only have to look on a building site to see that. I'm a plumber so my nail gun won't be used any where near as much as joiners would. Being on the Dewalt platform already meant I could also buy a bare unit nailer(big saving). The price of the paslode here I wouldn't consider buying as to expensive. Along with having to purchase the gas also. The little nails I use means I can get them from the job site for free. As the Dewalt is just now I'd say it's perfect for some trades. Plumber, electricians etc. It's maybe just not ready for joiners using it all day long. YET !!!
Try using the Pasload in Denver, at a Mile High and no air, I have had one for a few years and the only reason I dont throw it out my truck window at 80 mph is respect for other drivers PIECE OF JUNK!!!! My Dewalt on the other hand is a BEAST none of them will win any races but very reliable for over a year. By the way I am a PRODUCTION FRAMER OF 40 YEARS, Phoenix, 13 years SoCal and 24 years in Denver, Just in case you think Im just a weekend worrior!!!
Subscribed. You went to a lot of trouble , so it’s the least I could do . I’m a hobbyist,so I’ll stay with my Makita nailer that hooks up to my compressor. Btw all my battery operated tools are Dewalt , as I phased out my Makita . Wish I had the cash for the battery operated Dewalt
I just bought a dewalt after 10 years of using the paslode. I have to say the bump fire and tip are good, plus not having to use gas and the extra maintenance but holy cow that 2 pounds is no joke. If your wrist and forearm are not in shape, you will struggle. Paslode for me is still the winner with the dewalt a second place for me anyway.
Great review I own the dewalt and im in Australia so when you say temperature reliability the paslode guns overheat here. Yes the paslode is lighter but more top heavy. Doesn't matter what brand cordless guns are a convenience tool and none will ever compete with air tools.
nice, had the first gen paslode--ok at first, boat anchor now. fuel cells? never again...dewalt? maybe, but i don't think it's there yet-but it's the only one i would consider now! thanks...
All of these nailers are intended for small framing jobs anyway. They are all going to suffer in cold weather, even pneumatics. I'm talking Alberta cold; not New England, lol. I have the dewalt. I can build 100 feet of treated wood fencing with one battery charge. That's framing the fence with 3 1/4" and nailing boards with 2" That's good enough for me since I don't have to drag the hose around bushes and junk. The only issue with the dewalt is when using galvanized strip nails. It seems to build up a residue which requires service. And, it is heavy.
i have not tryed it but as a remodeling contractor i use porter cable. i have cordless gasless trim gun my pasloads are sitting at home. if your triming a door or 2 or say 50 feet of trim why drag out air. an if your running say dewalt you have plenty of batteries I run Porter Cable and I got 6 batteries
I have 3 passload guns all collecting dust they work good for a year but the maintenance on them sucks they are always breaking down so now they should do a video on a year later with constant use ,bet the dewalt outlasts them all
Comparisons do not get much better than this sir with your combination of in depth article with text and graphs as well as video footage and discussion to highlight the nuances.
Thank you for taking the time to film, investigate and provide this footage for free!
Much appreciated. Watching from the UK, thumbs up.
Ryan wow thanks for the comment, Consider subscribing
Agreed. More great work and quality insight from this channel.
Ryan if you liked that all of robs videos are this in depth if not more, I love this channel because they don't stop with a simple unboxing followed by a short demonstration.
@@brianbarnum8146 i subscribe, super in depth whether the guys have buy or not
Fantastic review on nail guns. As a carpenter in Ireland I can't appreciate the usefulness of a gun. And I can happily say I am the owner of four paslode nail guns. Great job guys, subscribed.
I love this channel for no BS honest reviews. No favoritism to any brand. It is 4 year old video that means every brand got better and there is more competition.
Dude, you knocked the video through the wall. Thank you for your dedication to great information.
he is hands down the best guy to review tools i think, i would be honored if was a tool brand and he gave my tool a good review. like what he said about the paslode nailer only using that size nail, which causes a domino effect of issues. Thats how deep the engineering should be thinking when trying to make the best product. i do appliance installation and there are soo many complications that dont even get seen, and you have to scratch your head and say "how could they not think of this? HOW?"
Excellent discussion @10:56 regarding the Paslode 3.25 x .131 nails and the ESR-1539 report. I am considering the Paslode nailer, but was unsure how to handle the lack of 3.5 nails. It is very helpful to know that there is a solution to this limitation. I think I could also use an educational video describing the contents / results of the ESR-1539. Thanks again.
My Paslode is over 15 years old and is still hanging in there. It’s not used every day but it’ll do a full day framing with very few misfires. Great bit of kit. Seeing this video made me realise I dont need to upgrade. Cheers for the review
Tony InAngus I’m a paslode guy myself
@@sethgauby8730 just now purchased my first ever pass nail gun I have no idea what to expect at all. I have no experience using tools. Honestly, just got it just because. There is no excuses.😂
What an absolute phenomenal video you and your team have created here. Hats off to you.
This should have way more than 30k views worldwide for a 3 month video - consider adding some more words that users may search for in the video title to get it to pop up on a few more searches.
Thanks a lot for all the in depth info and description you have given here.
Paslode cf325 use and cleaning
You don't add search terms to the title. The video creator can add tags to the video, so he doesn't stretch the title too long.
Your Head-2-Heads are the best part of TBB! I suggest doing an updated Head-to-Head for cordless battery-operated framing nailers since DeWalt has an updated design and Milwaukee has entered the market. Looking forward to it!
I agree, I personally expect when they do this that Milwaukee will blow away the competition
I've been using Paslode for years, along with my co-workers and they are hard to beat. I am still on my original framing and finish nailer, neither has failed me yet.
Me too! My frammer gun is a 2001 manufacture & my finish gun a 2005!!!! Still both going super strong!
Reflected by maintenance & suitable usage too though! ( As a building contractor...)
@@somerandomgoogleuser3374 Since I made this post, the company I work for switched to the Milwaukees and they have been good so far.
I would love to see an updated version of this test with the new players in the game. Particularly the Hikoki gasless nailer. Great review.
this is VERY well done informative video. It's really appreciated taking the time to do a thorough comparison like this. You covered ALL the area's and answered basically any questions we would have with great presentation and production quality. Pro level. Again, really appreciated. I'm tied into dewalt products so probably will just pull the trigger on the dewalt, the bump fire feature looks INSANE! So fast.
Dewalt and Bostitch are owned by Stanley Black and Decker. Within the last couple of years the assembly of numerous Dewalt tools was moved from Mexico to Greenfield Indiana.
thanks for sharing. I'm currently in the market for a cordless nailer and because of this information I think I'm staying put and probably go with a pneumatic type for now. I'll wait until current models are redesigned.
I owned the paslode and the dewalt, after winter use in Canada and being sick of buying gas canisters, i sold the paslode. the big reason i love the dewalt is the bump trigger when reaching out in awkward positions where it is nearly impossible to reach out and depress the tip and hold gun.
A Concord Carpenter....Best in the Business!!! Thanks again!
You sir, should be anchoring the 6pm evening news. Just the damn facts! No spin! THANKS!!
Passload was making these cordless framing nailers 25 years ago, so it is no surprise they know what they are doing by now.
And yet you don't know their name is Paslode not Passload.
@@BlueZirnitra Thanks for correcting me. Now it is my turn to be a pedantic asshole and point out a mistake you made. You should know that there needs to be a comma after "Paslode, as there is a clear pause in your sentence.
I live in Canada and use the Hitachi gas unit you mention...excellent tool! I am not a pro,just a Farmer that builds a lot of out buildings...fantastic service from the Hitachi,and I did buy it online like you mentioned.The gas cylinder lasts a long time ..so I recommend a buy on this nailer.
Considering getting the Makita first fix, as a multi trader I wont be used all the time but what you've showed me its still a good powerful nailer! Thanks for the review!!
Right on
Pulling the es report! Love it!!
As a building inspector, it's nice to see guys know what those are. Every time I mention them, guys are confused. 😢
I’ve been cleaning paslode nailers for a while now and I must say, they are very easy to clean. They should be cleaned after every job or at least when battery is spent.
Twice a week minimum we found. Fickle things really. Was on a crew once with a hitachi, a makita and my two paslodes the hitachi had never been cleaned and was two years old the makita has been cleaned once and was 18 months old. Mine were 10 years old at the time and as problematic as you could get all but the hitachi broke down that week all requiring parts. I cleaned all four guns end of the week
My crew's standard is the Metabo HPT/Hitachi nailer but we have a paslode cordless and it"s the only cordless we use. Our other nailer is a Ridgid pneumatic that we keep around just for it's crazy power for use with LVL beam assembly.
I sell Paslode tools in the field for a wholesale distributor. This was a comprehensive comparison- but one of Paslode's selling points is the driver blade life. They claim that DeWalt's driver blade require more frequent replacement- an expensive procedure, only adding to the cost of ownership. Nice job!
The trouble is nearly everything works well when it's new.
I tried the Makita when my old paslode im350 eventually died on me but it was nothing but trouble,issues from the start & was always being sent for repair,not up to Makita's usual standards.
My experience with the Dewalt was it was reliable enough at the start but kept breaking the guide springs,with the clumsiness and weight of it I didn't like it & after 8 months it totally failed .Anybody thinking of buying the Dewalt should note the guarantee is invalid after 36,000 nails!
I've found that in general the best on the market pound for pound is Paslode,the newer Im360ci is more powerful than anything I've used before,works well in cold weather & the lithium ion batteries last much longer,the best nailer I've used to date.
You and your team of guys always do these fantastic comparisons of tools and equipment. It's very helpful. thank you for all of your work.
Just bought the DeWalt. Returned it after a day. Just would not consistently sink 3 1/2" nails. Replaced it with the paslode. Even though you need the gas cartridge it is a superior nailer.
Badass test guys! Totally agree a paslode Redesign could really change some guys minds about cordless nailers.
Jon Meissner thx Jon!
I still have my Paslode frammer gun from 2001 & it goes awesome still after 21 years of contractor use! BUT I clean it regularly ( this aids in power performance massively so...) & I clean it my self - it's really not that hard to be honest.... I am super thorough when i do it though. I mean piston out & piston rings & bump stop. It's an extreme clean but it's worth it i think.
I am amazed that when i clean the barrel it has no wear marks in it after that many years of trade/contractor useage.....
I have put on the later model ( as on the Paslode in your video) quick adjustment "depth of drive" unit, it just uses the same Allen Head screws.
To be noted : the same could be done to the Makita unit as it is essentially a copy of the Paslode gun.
Mostly gas powered guns start to miss fire or won't fire because they're dirty inside. It's the very most common cause..,... I confirmed it with several gun service technicians when i use to get them to clean my gun....
ALWAYS ALWAYS use the Paslode Purple gun lubricating oil, NEVER EVER use anything else - it can't stand the I.C.E temperature generated.
Basically, just treat em right & clean them periodically.....
you saved me alot of time and money. great video, thank you.
Nice comparison. Best i've seen to date on the cordless framing nailers.
Hats off to me Rob you did an outstanding explanation of this nailer tools you are a true professional now I believe I can comfortably go and buy my new nailer gun!
THESE REVIEWS ARE ALWAYS EXCELLENT!!
Another thing I realized was alot of people say these things are high maintenance,what most people don't realize half the time is there's alot of times ,even at the box stores the gas is old,if the stuff has been sitting a while it goes bad and the gun will not fire or fire erratically,always check the date on the cylinder before you buy,I've bought cylinders brand new from places that were past their date
I own a passlode and beat it to death, literally. I replaced it with the hitachi and am very happy that I did. While the hitachi is heavier or had several advantages. It is not subject to not firing like the gas guns are in cold temps. It does not require maintenance like the gas guns. It fires full round nails and there is no detective work needed to figure out why it's not working.
Been in the game 35 years. We used to use air tanks and short hoses at nursing homes to be portable and no hoses to trip over. At one point I modified my scuba tanks to work for nailing.I've been a fan of paslode sense the early days. Believe me they had their growing pains. There have been many FAILED attempts to make a better cordless nail gun ( remember the bammer) . Still think that paslodes got them beat. I agree about the 3.5 nails. We do both remodeling and new construction. When we are in full framing we have Senco air guns and paslodes ( can shoot the same nails). Would be great to show the progression of cordless nail guns. I think it was senco that made a battery operated gun with a tiny compressor in it?
NiCad and NiMH battery operated tools in the test also had the advantage of less voltage drop/charge cycle. That only applies if all the battery packs were of the same or similar amp/hour and voltage rating though. Lithium battery packs have more voltage sag under load when at half or lower in the charge cycle.
Cant get a more thorough review. Awesome work!
Much appreciated!
Real field tests, practical, thorough. Good information. Good video. Nice job! Thank you.
You bet
Generally I dont like cordless tools. Especially drills. A 45.00 plug in drill kicks tthe butt of almost any cordless drill. Im doing high volume. Speed and consistant power. I have cordless tools. Love the cordless finish nailer for ceiling work. Thinking about a cordless framer cause hoses get heavy. Excellent comprehensive review sir. Ill buy none of them. Too slow. My senco older frame pro is as fast as a sewing machine on plywood floors and shear walls. All day it adds up more work done = more money.
So I live in canada and I know you were talking about cold weather problems, well a compressor doesn't work well in the cold either, a few I've used wouldmt work below -20
On nail 2300 with my paslode not a jam yet!!! best nail gun ever made!!
A new updated review with the Milwaukee M18 FUEL 30° cordless framing nailer? I think we have a new king in town
Love the video... at the end I was waiting for the graph comparison w/ the numbers that never lie.
Great comparison for newbs getting started. You talked about cold temps below 20 being a problem, but running a compressor and pneumatic guns with moisture in the system is a much bigger problem. I have Senco guns and for big all day jobs above 30 its pneumatic. But for cold days and light use days it cordless.
Pasload set the bar and I still have Pasload but the new Dewalt is faster and cheaper to run and interchanging batteries with the 20v platform means I don't care about nails per battery, it takes only a second to change it. Buy the way the gun comes with the smallest 2ah battery for a reason. No need for the flexvolt on the guns.
Now there are days when the Dewalt jambs up and I feel like throwing it off the roof but far less than running out of pasload gas when I thought I had more, and when everyone forgets to slide the battery pack back a position its always dead. Is the battery dead or is it out of gas? The back of the dewalt has a flashing light when the battery is running low.
Tools are always going to be a guy's preference. Use what works for you but realize nothing is perfect for all conditions. By the way picking up muddy air hoses and rolling up cords and loading a compressor every day creates its own challenges
Spot on..
Paslode is more expensive in the long run but is worth it.
Paslode needs to be cleaned often, they misfire a lot. We changed over to Dewalt ,very little down time 'nail jam' no misfires
It's has to be cleaned
Paul, obviously everyone has different experiences but I have had the complete opposite problem. I absolutely love DeWalt and own nearly every power tool they make, both corded and cordless. The ONLY one that I loathe, is the cordless framer. I love the cordless finish nailer and the cordless brad nailer, but the framer just continued to jam on me during jobs. I have not had nearly the same issues with my Paslode CF325XP.
Haha.. just kind of humorous to read that someone had the exact opposite experience.
Another great video. Has all the info needed for deciding on/purchasing a new tool. Keep up the good work. P.S. any temperature at or below freezing is cold in Canada too, especially with exposed skin.
Like to see this comparison with the new Hitachi 18v nailer included.
luke marcus-embleton love that machine!
At our business we do a lot of vinyl decks in Maryland, DC & Virginia, we need to put hundreds of 2-3/4 nails in 1/2 plywood and Paslode never have put me down not even at temperatures bellow 30F degrees, I want to get the DeWalt as well; glad to know it can keep up, definitely my next purchase to get along with our Paslode
vaztion just warm it up or start with it warm
Another great review done by you and your team.
As an Australian I don't think I'll have to worry about the guns getting too cold here..lol
Great video, you help me pick a nailer I bought the Paslode thanks for your advice
Great video rob, the paslodes over here in the U.K. Take 90mm nails which is 3 1/2 inches, strange why it only takes a 3 1/4...also we have the paslode im360ci nailer(which I have 2 of)I've used a lot of nailers including the ones you have on test and the Im360ci is by far the best I've ever used, it has an injection system which is temperature regulated for best cold weather performance, battery and gas level indicators and the power and consistency of nail driving is far superior to any other nailer, strange why you don't have it over in the us....it's usually you who has all the good tools and we get all the rubbish
James Hennin
Hi James
Looking at the paslode 360 vs 350 which one would you buy
James Hennin spot on mate
James Hennin i have the dewalt its problematic and only likes thick gauge nails, really its shite! The hitachi is awful to use also! I have 2 360ci's and am in love with them, never miss a beat and by far the best performance of any gun.
michael frazer i have 2 360ci's i would highly recommend them! Buying a 350 never entered my mind they are not as good and dont have the cold weather gas system!
Yeah there’s no one out there running 7 hundred nails at a time, if anything it’s 150 every 40 Min, and we didn’t ever nail so much.
cordless framing nailers still have a long way to go! air powered is the way to go, unless some break through tech is released
Good vid…Paslode is the way to go bar none. I’ve had two F350S pneum Framemaster Plus’ for decades and they’ve never failed, have two new cordless CFN325’s and they’ve been perfect so far. All about taking some sort of decent care of them and a little common sense maintenance along the way. Again…good vid and to the point!
Mate what a good test! Very fair and impartial. Agree with paslode being the n.o1. Here in New Zealand our paslosde come standard to take 90mm (3.5'') nails which covers us sweet as. Strange you don't get them in north america
So disappointing that milwaukee STILL doesn't have a competitor. Great information concise and to the point.
New this year in August, Milwaukee unveiled a cordless FRAMING gun
Terrific review. Thank you.
My friend has a paslode and I like it, but I don't like the batteries, the gas cartridges, or the special nails. Being the cheap and clever pup I am I came up what I consider a much better solution. Most of this was stuff I had kicking around the house, but buying new would not be prohibitive. I should also mention that I do most of my framing out of rough cut white oak 2x4's. They are very tough. You can not hand nail them.
My system is a 24oz "paintball" CO2 tank, with a fitting that takes it to a standard CGA320 fitting. I have a CI2 regulator that I set to between 100 and 125 PSI on that mates with that. and that terminates with a regular female air quick connect fitting. I connect one of the sort rubber "scrap end" air hoses from HF between that and my old trusty blue HF nail gun and I am good for about 200 nails, or more air staples or brads than you would care to count In the house I have a "dip tube" CO2 tank and a paintball tank refilling manifold (under $30 on eBay). I have a scale too so I can ensure that I don't overfill my little tank but truthfully I don't even screw around with that anymore. Just charge it until the frost line in the little tank hits the top of neck and you are good to go.
I like it because I can use it with any air tool. I doubt it would run an impact for long but if you have a really stuck tractor tire out in the field it may be worth trying before dragging a generator and compressor out... My customers also seem facented by it. I have gotten a lot of really positive comments. It is not the tool for building a house, but if you want to frame in a new wall, door or window for somebody, it is just great. I also make my own fizzy water and have a regular non siphon tube tank and regulator in the house. If I ever get a big off grid job and I don't need me generator for my saw, I can abscond that and do the same thing.
If you use a cordless nailer every day, the brand name ones may be worth it, but if you use them intermittently and or for small jobs, my system is cheap and effective.
I would love to see a video of this in action and breakdown. Please post one.
Yeah!!! More info please!!
The batteries are the best out of them all, smaller click half way to off and last far longer than any other, I have never used up a paslode battery in one day when fully charged, the gas is more powerful than just battery and they all use special nails what ever do you mean? There are certainly generic 30 degree nails available everywhere, Grip rite, lumber yards have another generic and even harbor freight.
Such a thorough review. Thank you.
I used a paslode a nice few times now on the job site and some of my fellow crew members droped it up in the attic lol rafters and fell down below to the ground on concert about 20 to 30 feet and it still worked it is robust not to motion it works well in cold weather. the only downside is like he said 3 1/4 nails and they don't hold very well compareing to the galinzied nails I used before that
Nice video ... But it did prove my point... We have both Pasloade and Dewalt because the new kids cry about having to haul air lines .. I'm old school and still remember when the big N80s first came out. I'll stick with my old compressor and air line and my old Bostich air nailer... Never lets me down no matter the weather and I can frame and nail ANYTHING all day with zero hassles Thanks for the good review though.It helped prove my point... they are all Almost as good as air... Its what I needed to hear
Thank god someone has finally said it! Everyone raving about dewalts bumpfire mode but anyone who is even half decent with a single fire nailgun can basically bumpfire by hand alone. Not hard at all
Your forgetting about the build up time with the dewalt, it needs 1.5 second before fire. That's why the bump fire mode is so good for dewalt.
Great job guys! Best comparison video, thanks for going deep
interesting about the ecc reports. here 3 1/4s are the standard size used for structural connections. it's all I see on thr shelves at the different suppliers.
I've only played around with the Dewalt but I noticed the weight immediately, the balance on it will definitely fatigue a user quicker
jeff kirk thx bud
I have the dewalt, works great, obviously not as well as any pneumatic. Trade off made for convenience is worth it not having to haul out everything and having a hose get hung up on everything especially when working off ladders and high places.
20 degree cold weather? HAHAHA, I’ve used Paslode in -36 Celsius sheeting a 300 square roof in Northern Ontario and it performed beautifully, the occasional misfire but was extremely happy with its range of use
I enjoy using my Paslode nailer . It's light on my wrist .
We need to redo this with the Milwaukee!
I really wish the Hitachi cordless was included. But great review none the less. I pretty much agree with the opinions expressed in the video.
Cordless is great for a small quick job but ,at this point in time, will not replace the numatic nailers for all day all week work.
My optimistic hope is the 3rd generation versions will be able to let me leave the compressor n hose home loll
When Pasload gas first came out, They was the first. Cold weather back then was not recommended because you could crack the cylinder head. That was early 90s It would take warm up shots to sink a 8d in less than 30f weather. In any rate I do not miss the gas smell. And LVLs are super tough. even the air nailers of old would not sink nails completely when using a 3/14. But has been a long time since I framed homes
Love your thoroughness. Thanks for the comparison
Rob this is a couple year old test. Any chance there has been another text with current models?
Thank you very much for these videos, much appreciated and needed throughout the community. I constantly find myself having to explain the benefits of paslodes to uninformed people, now I can just show them the videos.
I have a Makita, worst investment I ever made. I'm going to give it a good send off by smashing it with a hammer into a million pieces, that's how frustrating it is. I came here looking to purchase a paslode. Great review mate.
We need drywall screw gun head to head , with the new Milwaukee gun
iBeAtz killa the Milwaukee is a much better gun minus the nose cone design. Dewalt wins that one.
One of my colleagues just got one and was disappointed it does the job and if you are on milwaukee it is fine but not just him but many others have said to me that.it isn't as nice as the bosch, dewalt makita, hilti etc. Thats not to say iut doesnt work it does it just isnt that great
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did one awhile back
I love my Milwaukee screw gun. especially the trigger lock and no motor running. Push and go.
I hope to see an updated version of this soon with the Milwaukee, my personal experience the Milwaukee is 10x better than the current model Dewalt. Much bigger difference than in the Brad nailer category
I would like to see a Gassless, Battery only Roofing Coil Nail Guns, I hope Ryobi comes out with one to add to the One Plus line soon.
Cheers for the good head to head I have a Stanley Bostich first fix nailer and think it’s a god overall gun but just ordered a set of first and second fix dewalt guns nd looking forward to field testing my new shootin irons
Intersiting video. Totally agree that paslode is still the industry leader. You only have to look on a building site to see that. I'm a plumber so my nail gun won't be used any where near as much as joiners would. Being on the Dewalt platform already meant I could also buy a bare unit nailer(big saving). The price of the paslode here I wouldn't consider buying as to expensive. Along with having to purchase the gas also. The little nails I use means I can get them from the job site for free. As the Dewalt is just now I'd say it's perfect for some trades. Plumber, electricians etc. It's maybe just not ready for joiners using it all day long. YET !!!
Try using the Pasload in Denver, at a Mile High and no air, I have had one for a few years and the only reason I dont throw it out my truck window at 80 mph is respect for other drivers PIECE OF JUNK!!!! My Dewalt on the other hand is a BEAST none of them will win any races but very reliable for over a year. By the way I am a PRODUCTION FRAMER OF 40 YEARS, Phoenix, 13 years SoCal and 24 years in Denver, Just in case you think Im just a weekend worrior!!!
So you started framing at the age of 3 years old?
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What a great video, so much knowledge in such a short time. Subscribed 👍
Subscribed. You went to a lot of trouble , so it’s the least I could do . I’m a hobbyist,so I’ll stay with my Makita nailer that hooks up to my compressor. Btw all my battery operated tools are Dewalt , as I phased out my Makita .
Wish I had the cash for the battery operated Dewalt
I’ve been looking for this kind of review for so long... thanks to you guys!! Paslode it is!! Good review of the tools!
I've had a Paslode for long time. Excellent tool.
I just bought a dewalt after 10 years of using the paslode. I have to say the bump fire and tip are good, plus not having to use gas and the extra maintenance but holy cow that 2 pounds is no joke. If your wrist and forearm are not in shape, you will struggle. Paslode for me is still the winner with the dewalt a second place for me anyway.
Great review
I own the dewalt and im in Australia so when you say temperature reliability the paslode guns overheat here. Yes the paslode is lighter but more top heavy. Doesn't matter what brand cordless guns are a convenience tool and none will ever compete with air tools.
Exactly.. Blazing sun or freezing temps My air nailers deal with it and get the job done
Answered my questions perfectly, you have my subscription
charles roocke like to hear that
nice, had the first gen paslode--ok at first, boat anchor now. fuel cells? never again...dewalt? maybe, but i don't think it's there yet-but it's the only one i would consider now! thanks...
Try hilti they beat paslode by a mile
Thanks for great video again folks
Air runs spiker and stapler, etc.i use my paslode cordless for tiny jobs, thks
Need a new video on this with the milwauke and metabo hpt nailers added. Both are heavy hitters theses days
Great information, well presented and considered. I'm very grateful.
Rick Jackson your welcome, please consider subscribing
My wreck? What wreck is that?
Welcome
I use the Paslode framer and the Dewalt finishing gun no sucking up dust nailing skirtings on (floor trim)
All of these nailers are intended for small framing jobs anyway. They are all going to suffer in cold weather, even pneumatics. I'm talking Alberta cold; not New England, lol.
I have the dewalt. I can build 100 feet of treated wood fencing with one battery charge. That's framing the fence with 3 1/4" and nailing boards with 2" That's good enough for me since I don't have to drag the hose around bushes and junk.
The only issue with the dewalt is when using galvanized strip nails. It seems to build up a residue which requires service.
And, it is heavy.
Gota do a new one with the Milwaukee battery nailer
i have not tryed it but as a remodeling contractor i use porter cable. i have cordless gasless trim gun my pasloads are sitting at home. if your triming a door or 2 or say 50 feet of trim why drag out air. an if your running say dewalt you have plenty of batteries I run Porter Cable and I got 6 batteries
I have 3 passload guns all collecting dust they work good for a year but the maintenance on them sucks they are always breaking down so now they should do a video on a year later with constant use ,bet the dewalt outlasts them all
joe pesci doing tool reviews now !
Yes here in Alabama we use 12d or 3-1/4'' for framing.