Does RUNNING Make You a Better CYCLIST??
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- I do an all out cycling time trial to see how my cycling shape was effected from only running training throughout the winter. Do you like my videos, want exclusive benefits and support me so I can create more?
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A fun video as always. You’re good at finding new and interesting topics. I look forward to see what you come up with next.
Thanks I'm glad you liked it, more videos coming up! 😊
I was a pro cyclist. Triathlon training (running) lowers my threshold power by about 30 - 45 W ( 6 - 10%). Ditto for running, I can barely finish a 5 km at 3:30 now and when I mean barely finish, I mean it feels like a marathon and I'm thinking of tapping out. Plus the other thing specific training does it create a much broader base of form through all the different metabolic systems, which make the sport (which ever) more fun because you have more cards to play.
Ok cool to hear about your experience and thoughts, thanks for sharing!
Great video and a really cool experiment!
Thanks Chad!
Great job, you are doing awesome 🤩 love the videos !!!
Thanks 😊
just came across your channel and I love the content!
Thanks glad you like my content and welcome to the channel!
Always willing to see more and I am all ready waiting for y next video.
Cheers from NYC
Thanks Daniel!
Gratulerer med 20k!!!
Takk Alfred! 😁
I love your channel Göran. Keep going! 🇧🇷
Thanks Sergio!
Bra video som alltid!
Tack!
Super fun experiment as always!
Thanks! 😊
Obviously another great video! Inspirational athlete and film maker. I really enjoy watching your progress mate !
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! 😊
Nice video, as always Göran 🙌
Thanks Marc 😊
Happy to see you in good shape!
Thanks Kjell!
Thanx for that share mate,i am mixing runns with cycling indoor, hope i will improve my fittness , now I am better for running,and also lowering my HR😊
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First! Dude your content is amazing, and very inspiring for my own training. Thank you so much, and keep up the hard work, it's paying off!
Thanks! Very glad to hear you find it inspiring! 😊
Your channel deserves much more views!
Thanks 😊
Great video Göran! A really hard but fun test to do.Think i’m about to do the same in a couple of weeks also. Like to see that you always motivate and challenge yourself .Keep up the good work and looking forward to see your next video👍🏻🍀
Thanks Frits, glad to hear you liked it! Ok cool good luck with your test then 😀
Thank you Göran,hope it’s going to be fun...It’s defenitly going to hurt😅👍🏻
Great video, I am the opposite this summer , cycling and no running due to meniscus tear operation, but hey I’m still moving 😊
Thanks! Ok, yeah cycling is a great alternative to running for sure, good luck with your rehab!
Hey Göran.
Thank you for the video. An interesting experiment.
If I'm not mistaken, when you run uphill, you have a muscle group that is pretty similar to the "biking" muscle group.
Many ultramarathon pro runners include biking into their training program to reduce the shock load that comes from huge running volumes. For example, they do power intervals on a bike and this is an alternative to the power uphill running intervals.
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Hey! Ok interesting, yeah I think that make sense!
Hi Goran i love your vids and i also have the same alphafly's as you.
Hi and thanks glad you like them! Ok cool, they are so much fun to run in! 😀
I've always wondered the same thing. Was an avid bike racer from 1996 to 2016, when I moved over to ultra trail running (100 milers etc). I only ride my bike maybe 10 times a year now, instead of almost every day. And I found I'm still pretty good on the bike. Yes lost a bit of bite but overall I'd like to think with maybr a month of specific bike training I could unlock the old bike legs again. This video confirmed.
Ok cool to hear, yeah I also think you can do a lot in a month of specific training if you have maintained a good aerobic capacity!
I missed my weekly Mountain Biking rides with my friends recently due to lockdown, so ran more instead, but I think a weekly Zwift ride helped me for when I was able to get back as our COVID restrictions eased here in Scotland.
Ok yeah I think one session a week can do a lot for maintaining the specific muscles!
I found adding cycling to my running training has made me a better runner.
I was lucky with the winter here in Northern Arizona, USA. I was able to ride in the cold and sometimes snow and ice through the whole winter. It was less severe than it has been in the past. As a result I'm in better condition than at any time back to 2010 without question and weigh less than the weight I was at in my 20s and even teens. Lately I've begun some running again as an alternate exercise. I ride a road bike most of the time also. I never wear helmets either.
I've just recently started running a lot, whereas my cycling was most of my exercise last year. I've found my sustained power to be going up with very little time spent on the bike, so I'm guessing you did well with your cycling test!
Another great video Göran 👌 and congrats on 20k subscribers btw! It doesn't seem that long since 10k!
Thanks Julian, yeah it's crazy how fast that went 😁
what a great road to train on
Surely a power meter would have been a truer reflection of your change in fitness from last year , lots of variables in just looking at your time from last year
Yeah you are right would love to get a power meter, but both attempts it was very little wind so I still think it's an interesting comparison.
In my personal experience over the past 3-4 months I've been doing both running and riding my mountain bike, I've noticed my FTP decreased ever so slightly, but I've gained both stronger legs and a highly increased aerobic base which is far more helpful. Here where I live is hilly everywhere I go and I only have a mountain bike, so it's quite hard for me to train Z2 HR in the bike whereas it is way easier while running, as you can dose your pace either when going uphill or downhill directly on your body.
On the other hand, doing only one of them clearly leaves another group of muscles untrained, which is not that bad in a short effort, but takes a toll in the long rides. So yes, running can help you become a better cyclist (or mountain biker in my case) but only running will not, at least in my personal experience.
How do you make those nice trail visualizations? I didn't expect the difference to be that small, great work!
I use google earth studio to make those. Thanks 😊
I always get into better biking shape with running.
interesting. I never do.
Without powermeter it´s very hard to say if you have improved or not. The conditions have to exaktly the same. Speed depends on the temperature, airpressure of the atmosphere and in your tires and wind.
Yeah you are for sure right but at least it was not much wind on either of the attempts, so I still think it says something.
I think running has greatly increased my hiking/mountain climbing strength and fitness.
Just curious, have you noticed Hokas such as Clifton being narrow at toe box where foot is basically off edge bottom insole? I have normal wide feet. Also noticed the cushioning grounds out if run at a decent speed and doesnt have any bounce. My Nike air max Reacts never lose cushion even running fast and downhill and have bounce, have you tried Nike air reacts 270s? Hokas have nice cushioning at slower speeds and are extremely comfortable love mine for walking in.
I have had that issue, except with the Hoka Mach 3/4
Always a pleasure to watch your videos! How’s it going with the ultra training? When is the 100k race with alot of altitude meters
Thanks Samuel! It is going well but I will focus more on it through the summer it is in August.
I did the exact opposite, originally being a (hobby) runner with 40-50km/week. A couple of years ago, I transitioned more and more into cycling and I would say, it's a 2:1 ratio for cycling since 2018 in terms of duration. My best HM was somewhere at 1:32. Then, in October 2021, I signed up another half distance and boom, personal best 3 minutes faster. To be fair, I didn't quit running, had a few hundred kilometers in and did 3 or 4 tempo runs - mainly to get a feeling what pace I could still sustain, but other than that not much specific training. The only thing I've noticed is that extreme stuff like long runs or excessive trail running hurt a lot more afterwards because you lose a bit of specific muscle from mostly cycling, indeed... I'm pretty sure, it's the same the other way around, you'll lose more on your sprints or high-effort session than on an endurance ride.
Random question, how tall are you? and what brands to you recommend for running and cycling?
I imagine that aerobically your running would have helped but muscular efficiency and endurance in cycling specific muscles will have disimproved. I am not sure just one all out cycling test will give you the answer you want - I haven't watched to the end yet so don't know the exact details of the test you will do but I would suggest that a good test would be a steady climb of 15-30 minutes with decent grade 5-7% maybe (as even as possible) - maybe you could seek out some local Strava segments for a KOM ;)
Yeah I have the same theory as you, yeah for sure the testing could be more scientific in many ways but was a fun test to do!
Do you have power data? It seems very plausible that not your muscles were at fault but that you simply had a less aero position.
Seems like you also lost weight. That’s helps a lot. BTW, love this kind of videos!
No I have kept the same weight for the last 10 years actually and don't think it would be healthy to loose weight for me. Thanks glad you liked it!
@@goranwinblad Indeed. I meant that losing weight usually helps riding faster, but of course in your specific case is totally unnecessary.
Wow, I wish the US was as bike and pedestrian friendly as Norway. Sadly, you have to drive out to find bike friendly trails here.
Best crosstraining for cycling is skiing ang havy weight lift training for legs.Check Dylan Johnson channel cross training video,he explains it excellent.
It really looks like Oscar needs a longer bike frame.
Fantastic! Keeping your hand position on the tops (with elbows bent) will help for next time--it is more aerodynamically beneficial than staying on the drops!
Thanks and thanks for the tip will try that out?
I guess it could be better to compare average watts for the segment, not time.
Plus, your shape overall, I guess, become better, considering: lost efficiency on a cycle that was compensated by better physical shape.
In other words, in this shape, having cycle in legs, you would perform way better.
But yes, once again, it is simply better to compare cycling in watts.
Did you measure the average wind speed and direction during both of your rides? This could be a source of pretty large uncertainty, especially in a time-trial type of a ride on a flat surface. A quick estimation for 65kg rider on a 7kg bike cycling at the power of 300W shows that 1m/s of a headwind can make the cyclist about 2km/h slower compared to no-wind conditions! Just wanted to say that you can actually be in a slightly better cycling form than you assume ;)
Yeah you are right, I did not measure it but it was very little wind both times at least 😊
I am primarily a runner who rides extensively in the summer but only commutes a couple of miles to work every day by bike. Going out on my first big rides of the year recently I only a little slower than last year. What really hurt after an hour were muscles that I didn’t expect such as my neck from craning it up and my triceps from holding myself upright for so long. After two weeks of consistent riding I am faster than my last year self.
Ok cool to hear about your experience! Thanks for sharing 😊
Do you live in the countryside of Norway? What's the name of the place?
Yeah I live on the Island Jeløy in Norway.
I would say almost certainly slightly worse cycling performance expected, based on my own experience. Over 6km anyway, longer distance I think the running will have helped. But your determination to better your previous time will rule supreme 👍 so you'll cycle faster this time 😅
Oooo so close, great video 👍
Yeah you were right! Thanks 😊
in my opinion in your body shape the runing wont help you cycling,but if you were fut the runing could help you cycling better lets see if im right....
You get good at the things you practice. My guess is that your cycling has gotten slightly worse.
You were right! But it was not with much 😊
100% sure you´re worse. Let´s see :D
You were right but it was close 😅
No.
Cycling is best way to recovery from running. Bad decision Goran.
How much do Kipchoge, Bekele, Farah or Ingebrigtsen cycle? 🤔 I also like it as a complement and think for most recreational runners it's great to vary the load. But for my development in running I think it has been good to spend most of my training hours running.
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I go back and forth between cycling and running and my biggest takeaway....it's much more difficult for me to get back into running after doing a lot of cycling than it is for me to get back into cycling after a lot of running.