Making fourth place in the prototype category, from a mobile phone company, with mere 3 years of car-making experience, is still an insane achievement.
Eh. Prototype means very little limits/regulations. They basically threw the most powerful motors on the most stripped down car and you can tell by all the $250 go kart like shaking and rattling. Let’s see what they can do with a street version of this, I’d be impressed if they can combine refinement with this time.
@@crs1474 Its road car version of the Ultra has been released. At the price of slightly over 100k usd. Looking forward to see how the road car performs on Nurb
Sadly, youtube comments show me the ignorance and arrogance of westerners and people doesn’t know Chinese Car Industry or won’t give a F. It took Xiaomi only three years to build the SU7 and SU7 MAX and they've been very successful in the Chinese market. Not to mention that the SU7 Max only costs around $42,000 and has 673 horsepower like some super cars and they cost tons more. This prototype on Nürburgring share the same motor and battery as the production version from SU 7 Ultra. Same 1543 hp with active aero parts, and was released today for about $110,000 USD. I don't really see Porsche putting the 919 power unit in any production car in the next 100 years. Even if they do put it in, check at the price of the AMG One, and it's not for everyone. Besides that actually there’s another Car brand named Zeeker, that produces the 001FR a four door saloon with 1300HP, about the less price as this Xiaomi, and it's been on the market for a while.😅
@@Frank-vi6zt The Chinese car industry, like every other Chinese industry, is low quality and full of stolen tech. This car has been made to put in a lap on the ring, if you tried to do the same in the production version you'd die because there's no chance they will build customer cars to any sort of standard. Its a scam, just like everything else from China.
@@oursonvie developing EVs is very simple compared to ICE cars, and with slave labour at their disposal they could quite easily offset the cost of getting a few western engineers and some corporate espionage
Having the hole weight of the Chinese government behind your company is very helpful, also China has access to many companies technologies and production techniques, so if someone can pull it out, it is a Chinese company lol
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@@StoneCoolds Xiaomi's success is due to China's complete electric vehicle industry chain. Electric vehicles are an industry supported by the Chinese government. This started more than 10 years ago. It is not targeted at Chinese manufacturers. All electric vehicles produced in China by European and American manufacturers are subsidized. This is why Tesla is going to China to build a super factory. Of course, the subsidies stopped 2 years ago. Electric vehicles are now in a stage of rapid development. They will be updated like mobile phones. Through AI, they will become real partners and handle various affairs of various car owners, rather than cold machines. With the development of solid-state battery technology and artificial intelligence driving, electric vehicles will explode in the next few years and will completely end gasoline vehicles. It will be very expensive to buy gasoline vehicles in the future.
One needs to realize that this lap record, no matter whether it was from a prototype or mass production car, was accomplished by a 4-door, on a mostly wet surface, from a cell phone company, who doesn't have hundred years of automotive knowhow under their belt! It is from a company practically making car the very first time. That alone is unbelievable ! You got to give them credit. If you think that is easy, try ask any car company to build a prototype 4 door to slash that record, then you know how hard it is! By the way, the VW IDR is also a prototype that is out of reach to everyone and it doesn't haul your mother-in-law in the back seats while achieving the lap record!
If you saw other videos from Misha's main channel, there are many amatuers who can build their own race car, which perform quite competitively on Nürburgring. Today, you can buy the technology of each car part from the world market and assemble it yourself. This is what Rimac cars actually started from, and this is what Xiaomi is doing. Yes, it requires top engineering skills to achieve such track record, but creating a mass-produced street legal car is completely another story from creating one prototype for a race track.
Word is, they’ve only got 1 hour to do the lap time but because of the weather conditions, the driver waited for the track to dry up more until the last 10 minute, and he only did 1 lap, that’s it. So they definitely can improve the set up and with good temperature and track condition, it will be a sub 6:30 car easily.
@@Nisimo6787 Don't even try, man. Pretty sure these are Chinese bots. This happens a lot on any video that is "critical" of a chinse product. Remember every Chinese company is owned and promoted by the CCP.
It might be an exaggeration. Mind you if you go by "current" or future ability, technically the moon landing 50 years ago probably never happened either.
I don't think Xiaomi ment to say "we are faster than production cars". I think they ment to say "the only prototype cars faster than us is proper hypercars with much much more efficient aerodynamics". You say 4 doors mean nothing, but a sedan body vs single seater racecar body means everything. I think this is super impressive and the time will improve a lot.
Who says 4 door means sedan body? And what is a sedan? What is a door? That was the point: Its all a gentlemans agreement to what this "class" entails, one of the factors being that is a street legal production vehicle. Otherwise you could call any car 4 door or sedan, since there is no fixed measurements or definltions for either.
@@GoldenCroc A sedan body means a car that my 60yo mom would agree to buy and sit in. Xiaomi SU7 is a prototype, but it is fundamentally modified from a car which my mom would agree to buy. In fact the base SU7s are already very common on the streets of Beijing now, you may even run into a few when ride-hailing using your phone. Try getting a porsche 919 on Uber.
Not saying that’s it’s the same thing, but where do we draw the line of “useable” 4 doors? Because the Taycan turbo GT weissach has 4 doors but no rear seats at all. I think the marketing was bad but the lap was great and was categorized officially in the right spot. Great video as always, can’t wait to see if they get a sub 6:30 in the right conditions
He is saying how many doors you have doesn't matter! What does is if its a production car like the Taycan Turbo GT Weissach or a one of special that should be compared to non production and race cars..
@@davvehallberg all companies have specially made, one-of-a-kind tires, ridiculous camber settings, spacers, weight removal from all invisible places, software unlocks to push the car and the battery to destruction and many more. None of the "factory spec" runs will paint an accurate picture.
I mean having slicks and that extreme a cage auto disqualifies it for me. I mean Subarus N24 Race car with 1/4th the power the Xiaomi and similar level of chassis/suspenion/tire mods is only 1-2 seconds slower. I repeat a car with 1526hp is only 1-2 seconds faster than one with 350hp
@@cademckee7276 because of weight, also it's not really just 1-2s faster. They lost power due to sensor failure for some seconds + some parts of the track was damp.
I enjoy seeing manufacturers doing stuff like this to achieve whatever hyper specific superlative. It's fun and silly which is something that is lacking in the industry these days.
They actually booked 2 full days but it was raining, so they could only do this one lap. They needed to get this lap in because they are releasing the production version, so yes the “good marketing” is in fact needed
So, these guys are frauds then.. !? Notching a lap record by effectively running a bare-bones chassis setup with no back seats, no door panels, no dash, unknown motor & battery calibration metrics in order to market the road-legal or homologated version of this car sounds extremely dumb! This could easily turn from "good marketing" to a potentially shady marketing.
@@cYaNiDE881they claimed clearly the difference between the production version and the prototype😢at least you should search the information first before said they are fraud😢
@@cYaNiDE881 Its funny because stripping an EV's interior out does less than an ICE equivalent. EV's, due to the battery pack, are going to be heavy - so the %mass change by stripping an interior of an EV is going to be drastically different to an ICE equivalently stripped.
THAT'S how they get caught by surprise when CHINA EV nailed their ass. Never saw it coming. Let them continue. Lets sleeping dogs lie. ON this record, its DRIVER and Car. Not just car. The driver is VERY familiar with circuit.
A totalitarian government that heavily restricts people’s rights and disappears dissenters and religious minorities. Ya jeez can’t believe people hate China…
@@lavine6069 the critical components such as the CPU is from Taiwan, they only made the non complex parts that can produce anywhere else on the planet. The reason why companies produce them in china is because it's dirt cheap workforce getting paid pennies on the dollar.
@@napalmenthusiast4423 lol the reason companies produce in china is because china is superior in every way. go to mexico or africa or india for cheap workforce broke boy
Too salty in here.. c'mon guys sub $100k 1500hp, sub 7s, 4 door saloon.... Fron a home appliance maker! All other 'performance'/exotic 'car' manufacturers should be embarrassed lol
We as a consumer have to give them credit and appreciation because it will make other company make more competitive cars. If we defend those cars company and mock newer and better cars, it means we don't want improvement.
@@tluangasailo3663 Они лишь добавили каркас безопасности, спортивное сиденье и руль и убрали лишние сиденья и элементы дизайна. Учитывая условия в которых была трасса при рекорде, время сходит +- одинаково. И это не так уж и дорого, точно не 500к, может быть 150к.
The lap time record claim is indeed very misleading for not mentioning it's a prototype. And that's a HUGE difference. But from an engineering standpoint, a true professional would take the four-door claim seriously. Many folks have overlooked the fact that body shape is _a very important factor_ when it comes to sport performance. Just as everyone knows that sedans are sportier than SUVs, supercars/hypercars(/even F1 cars like Porsche 919 EVO) with lower weight, lower center of gravity and more aerodynamic shape, are inherently sportier than sedans. Two-door sedans also have an advantage over four-door sedans. Why is the design of a supercar so different from that of a regular car? Not just because it looks cool, but it really does help in reaching the extreme performance, at the cost of functionality, comfort and space. So this gives some legitimacy to Xiaomi's emphasis on four-door. It's really impressive that Xiaomi can make such a fast car, even if its body shape is basically that of an everyday car, and it has decent rear space. Despite Xiaomi's lack of expertise accumulation, they would certainly achieve even better results if they made the car in the shape of a supercar. They just deliberately chose to make a four-door prototype to help sell their four-door production version, as the four-door version being most practical could sell the most. Try think about the recently tested Lucid Air with an even more normal-sedan-style shape and lots of rear space, that's an engineering masterpice in a somewhat similar way. It's not a prototype though, with lots of equipment adding tons of weight and nothing stripped down. Xiaomi's production version will be a more fair match to the Lucid and I'm looking forward to its lap time release. It is then that a fair judgment can be made.
just from the first few sentences I know that you know nothing about cars. you jsut heard about center of gravity once and now you think it is the most important thing in a lap time.
Marketing and production spec argument aside, that's a really impressive time. It wasn't even a perfect lap so could've gone much faster because the throttle stopped working due to sensor issues. It could've probably done a 6:30 with better conditions.
Calling this fake is just dishonest, This is an official time and it clearly stated that this is a prototype, I get it, you are afraid of the chinese, and you should, they graduate more engineers a year than the entire UE in a decade.
@@cedricgtrablegenau wen juckt das? Ist nichts anderes wie ein Quickie, oder wie beim Bergrennen: nach 3x 2:00 Minuten ist der Spuk vorbei. Die Teile bleiben trotzdem für die Langstrecke noch immer unbrauchbar, auch wenn sie die Nordschleife in nur 3 Minuten umrunden
This is a nonsense rant, Misha. The standard Xiaomi SU7 is still half a second faster 0-100 than a Taycan on a normal road. They said 4 doors, not 4 seats, so no fool play. The street car is awesome and the prototype is wild. Try to make a car like that in your garage if it is that easy.
This car will definitely break its own record as a production car putting in mind the weather conditions and the cut of power it had during the only lap they did. I understand why German car manufacturers are so damn scared.
Dude, yesterday they were making light bulbs, phones, and pots, and today they have an electric car flying around the Nürburgring. Don’t get hung up on the marketing, you’re not reviewing other ads, are you? You should be impressed that a company that made electric kettles now has a truly fast electric car.
and 90% of the car isn't from Xiaomi. It's no surprise that "everyone" can build cars now. Because it is just so much easier now and you can buy most parts from external manufacturers.
@@eamoncat ok cool the company decided not to release a car yet because they have a crazy profit margin which would go down. But the simple fact that Apple, Google, Sony, Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Panasonic and so on work on electric cars or at least the batteries/motors for them shows what I mean. Doesn't mean they will all release cars if they don't see enough potential in it to push the company. Then there's companies like TOGG, Vinfast or like 500 manufacturers in China which would never be a thing without electric motors. Lucid and Rivian as example from USA. Many of them will fail obviously because there's no market for like 1000 car manufacturers but there's a reason why they pop up like Popcorn everywhere around the world the last decade
XiaoMi website mentioned they will put the production SU7 Ultra on Nurburgring in 2025, and they admitted the current record is for non-production car record, in-fact they were targeting the Subaru record from 7-years ago... which coincidentally were also build by Prodrive! But yea, their marketing team + news portal are misrepresenting it.
@@famousraperandrapperkriswu656 I think this is what he meant, but he might have misunderstood what they meant by it. Quoting Xiaomi from its official site "Xiaomi EV's challenge plan is divided into two phases: the first phase involves using a prototype car to challenge the non-production lap records at the Nürburgring in October 2024; the second phase aims to use a production model to officially target the production car lap records at the Nürburgring in 2025."
@@famousraperandrapperkriswu656 Quoting Xiaomi "Xiaomi EV's challenge plan is divided into two phases: the first phase involves using a prototype car to challenge the non-production lap records at the Nürburgring in October 2024; the second phase aims to use a production model to officially target the production car lap records at the Nürburgring in 2025.". This is from their official site but I think he misunderstood the post, it doesn't say the SU7 Ultra Prototype is going to be a production car but rather they will use the production model to set a new record. Again Quoting Xiaomi "Xiaomi SU7 Ultra is now available for pre-order, with official release scheduled for March 2025. The pre-order price is set at 814,900 yuan, with a 10,000 yuan intention deposit required."
and the smartest thing is they do this run in bad weather and they will run the real production car in good weather..so the time diffrent will be similar yk what i mean 😂 smart xiaomi
They also revealed the production spec car like hours after they publish this. It is waaay tamer than the prototype and retains the normal SU7's interior. I think it can give a fight to Taycan GT. Lucid also has been testing on Nordschleife so that's another contender. BYD's Yangwang U9 also has been spotted many many times, I think they're in German much longer than Xiaomi, but that car is more like Rimac competitor with its supercar body.
I am disappointed at your comment and feel like you are also not presenting the whole picture. This prototype is out of a sedan, which naturally differs from coupes, that’s what the Mi team means by “four door”, which is what usually Chinese car will be classified. Don’t you think sedans differs from coupes in terms of lap time? And another truth, you might not know, but that’s ok, is that this sedan actually has a very large second row space, even bigger than most mid-size sedans.
Yes, this is a prototype 4 door EV with rollcage added and it gets around the Nurburgring faster than either a production Porsche Taycan EV or a production Rimac Nevera EV. The lap times are facts. There was no deception. Yes, it is good to know that the Xiaomi vehicle was a prototype but knowing that doesn't change the lap times - the lap times were recorded at the Nurburgring and were entered into the historical record. Those lap times aren't in dispute so your quibbles are without consequence. And, contrary to your misdrawn analogy, it isn't as if the lap time of the SU7 Ultra amounts to nothing more than the trivial achievement of posting the fastest time for a yellow car at Nurburgring (which, in any case, would hardly be welcome news to Lamborghini). I think you know what a lap time is, so, please don't pretend that verbal quibbles change anything. The SU7 Ultra which Xiaomi claims will get a production release is a very fast car. A question: Aren't you aware that rollcages are routinely added to production vehicles which take to the Nurburgring track under race or race-like conditions?
@@SpartanArmy117 And, there it is. Another quibble without consequence that a mountain of facts just can't subdue. If you had a lively mind you would've asked yourself different questions, technical questions that might help confirm how/why this SU7 got around the Nurburgring so quickly. Motor racing turns on high quality engineering built on multiple fields of science not your sense of righteousness or the size of your mouth. I suggest you take that underworked brain of yours and do something useful with it. You might find that you are capable of offering a comment or two that add to the substance of a discussion rather than just adding a bad smell. If I'm not mistaken Xiaomi should be able to answer your questions. Direct your enquiries to them. None of this changes the fact that a light version of the SU7 is blisteringly fast around the Nurburgring, a fact that you don't seem to be able to compute.
@@SpartanArmy117 Yes, I mentioned that the car was a prototype. Thank you for your pointless quibble. I suggest you take your concerns up with Xiaomi. I'll let the engineering and the lap times do the talking. Those facts are what gets under your skin and has you creating fantasies in order to ignore them.
@@chris27gea58 Oh thank god you'll let those lap times do the talking with zero context, that makes you a genius. At least Xi will bump your social credit score hahaha.
@@SpartanArmy117 And, yet the context of the lap time was completely clear - it was a non-series result, viz. a result that applies to a prototype, one off or custom-built race car - and the result was issued in line with standard practice for the measurement and certification of an official lap time at the Nurburgring. Measurement is over the full length of the track timed with a flying start. Timekeeping is supervised by a notary and the vehicles were scrutineered with regard to their series-production state. Would you like more than that? Do you think that the Nurburgring doesn't know how to do its own job? Would you prefer a bit more mystery or deniability to the lap time result? The thing is, the lap time is simply an official record of what happened on track! And, that official record is what you just can't take. For the record, Xiaomi will be returning to the Nurburgring in 2025. So, you better develop some new strategies for your lap time denialism. The house of cards that you and the vlogger would like people to buy as reality just isn't selling.
Not sure that is true about the amount of laps its done. It was also driving at a trackday earlier this year and I got quite a few clips of it and then again on ipool later in the year...
What is crazy is the 4th fastest prototype is still very impressive, whats not is trying to spin it like your out here in the same class as my stock 3 series.
@@AprezaRenaldy I've seen this exact comment way too many times in this section, I truly hope that at least one of you isn't actually retarded, and you're messing around.
@@stradale72 Yeah, I got it. As a bonus, they sort of used Porsche's font. Huawei used to sell Porsche Design smartphones, if memory serves me right. :)
This car should worry every legacy car manufacturer. To go from making phones to making a car that can set records - true or not - on the ring is crazy lol.
They took the EV bait and are suffering the consequences now. Not only that but after the US bombed the Russian gas pipeline. Germany lost access to cheap Russian gas and now has to pay more for it's energy. They have themselves to blame for getting rid of their nuclear power stations. Either way, VW is not in a good place.
@@mgcharoudin2 most companies that tried to do shit in covid while china just caught up to them were. instead of doing what china did we just let the virus strive, now we get to eat the consequences. but yea, probably vax bad and you won't even see the bigger picture in your video lol. when someone who spends most of his time on single track tries to talks geopolitics it's time to ignore his opinion. i don't even expect to hear a sentence about shareholders. That would be too deep for most of the viewers.
Fake record? Or more like salty + click bait. The companies clearly stated this is a prototype non street legal result, they will have another production run in 2025 before the actual sales begin. So is that mean the result is fake? Nah
Your 100% right. The results are fantastic either way. And they had an issue even with this amazing time. I don't get the "Chinese" hate. If something is good it's good simple
It’s a fake record because compared to other prototype cars it’s not the fastest, yeah you could say “fastest 4 door prototype” but that would be disingenuous bc most if not all other prototypes in its class are 2door vehicles
Tri motors, over 1500hp and all for 60-70k Euros. The Ultra has new uprated adjustable suspension so i'm guessing that's why the driver avoided hitting those curbs in a two+ tonne prototype.
It's so interesting that porche just released lap record in Shanghai International Circuit not long ago before Xiaomi release at Nurburgring. It seems that they are both interested in each other countries' circuits.
Of course they are scared, China has been making electric motors that outputs 500hp per-wheel, A 2025 Porshce 911-4 GTS only has 478 hp. How incredibly behind those new european gasoline cars are is unimaginable.
@@uraniumcranium2613 desperate for what? The rest of the industry sat on their ass and now the chinese are 10 years ahead. The only western manufacturer in the west that had a edge, Tesla made a broken fridge that no one wants. The CEO of Ford drives a chinese car since their own cars are shit for fuck sake
Don't forget the changes behind Xiaomi's success. China now has the world's most comprehensive industrial system and the most mature EV electric vehicle supply chain.
It is a prototype, literally, but more close to GT3 car instead of traditional "sports prototype" race cars. The chassis is production spec, also the battery and the entire electric powertrain. The modification including removing all the interior (of course), adding roll cage, slightly changing geometry of the suspension (but still roughly the same mechanism on the production car), changing all covers to carbon fiber, and installed the aerodynamic kits designed by Prodrive, and that's it. It's a heavily modified car, yes, but it's still a modified car, not a fully custom-build prototype. In fact, Xiaomi intended to build the car by themselves at the beginning, but they have obviously no experiences on how to tuned a car for tracks like Nurburgring, and they have to hiring (at a high cost) Prodrive to help them design and made the modification. Also, you mentioned the Evija X, it's also a great car, but their marketing is also nowhere better - they called it *"fastest production-spec chassis on Nurburgring".* tbh it sounds even worse to me.
If you follow EV tech then you know this is about new motors coming from China that are compact and powerful enough to top 500 hp for each motor. This is a signal to the industry that 2000hp 800volt architecture CHEAP in cost vehicles are on the way. There will be nostalgia buyers of ICE vehicles, but they will not be the fastest cars on the road in the near future.
@@Mr.SlipperyX Wont matter by the time these cars hit the market. ICE cars will be for the super wealthy that pay premium to drive slower cars on the road.
The fact that a smartphone/appliance company can build anything that can lap the ring at those time itself is pretty crazy. Gotta give credit when it's dude and not that is definitely not a 4 door sedan lol
Remember than even though this is a prototype, the production version of the Ultra with the same powertrain just got released the same day the video was uploaded. I'll patiently wait for the laptime of the production version. Certainly at least 10 secs slower, but that'll still be a very competirive lap time. Although you might say "ahh it's cheating they got 500 more horses" remember that this is cheaper. Locally sold ¥815K or $114K. Reliability may be questioned too, but let's not forget that this is the very first car Xiaomi designed themselves.
@@Sidewinder5 I'm aware of that, but this lap is in a really bad condition with wet surface and leaves all over the place. I assume on a dry warm lap, the production version would be at least 10 sec slower.
The Xiaomi SU7 Ultra was just launched by Lei Jun, CEO Xioami in china for sale on 28th October 2024. The price of this car is 815,000 Yuan. Its no longer a prototype ! Xiaomi held a huge & long product launch with includes all of Xiaomi's devices, home appliances, Xiaomi 15 phones & finally the SU7 Ultra. Of cause the actual car is without those roll cages setup for track racing. But for a 4 door street legal car with those specs is in supercar category...simply crazy & amazing!
Chinese here, the production version of the Xiaomi Su7 ultra just lanuched today, selling at 810,000 chinese dollars(right about 100k euro), it claims that it will gives you 1548 bhp and a sub 2 seconds 0-96kph(claims it can go 0-100 in 1.9s)...Xiaomi says that the production model features an identical Electronic motor system(EIC) with the prototype, but the production model is clearly missing some heavy aero kits and the wide body. Honestly I am probably the least Chinese that will buy a Xiaomi car: I just bought an Elantra N, I was never a fan of EV, or a believer to the new-coming Chinese car manufactors, hell I even never liked a Xiaomi phone, but those lap times are really, really solid results. If those numbers on the production version is anywhere close to the fact, I am so happy to see the impact Xiaomi may do on the market.
Well the thing is Xiaomi could just produce and sell a handful of these and now it's no longer a "prototype". As far as I'm concerned it's much closer to the taycan spec than it is to the IDR, since it's just a modified version of the production vehicle (like the taycan)
This is like if the gt300 Prius or gt300 Impreza or gt300 legacy went around the nurburgring, it has "4 doors" (that don't all function) but it has 4 doors
Im not impressed at all an unrestricted prototype thats not legal for street.. so the record means nothing compared to street cars if Porsche decided to throw an unrestricted GT2 RS on the ring without limitations, they would go below 6:15 with ease.
GT2 RS is a 2 door full blown track focused car, even though it can legally run in the roads. This Xiaomi is still a 4 door sedan which in production costs half. The GT2 RS is a great car, don't get me wrong, but you're making a really bad comparison here.
I totally agree is a prototype no a mass production car. But at the same time is on the same chasiss same motor, stripped out with more carbon. The real question is how many second did it really gain from, and how many seconds were lost due to weather condition and sensor malfunction
Xiaomi marketing team always marketing their product by doing some werid ranking,but this car can comfortably fit 5 adult in it,not some dog sit at the rare,so they call ot fastest 4door is making sense for me.
Notes: - there will be production version with a lot o carbon, even roof etc - it is stripped inside but the cage etc added. Unlikely the weight difference with the top spec production car will be that substantial - the production car can't use slick tires *because of the largest in class brakes*
Imagine what they can do in 3 years. Outstanding job behind this lap time, they are world class engineers, serial or prototype, no one ever expected that from smartphone company
Yeah, competition is always good, at least for customers. This prototype uses the same chaise, motor, and battery as the Su7 Ultra, which means you can actually purchase a Su7 Ultra and send it to Prodrive to ask them to build another prototype. But I do wish Xiaomi could get a record just using Su7 Ultra. And good job David, so brave, pro drive, amazing, hope this prototype can have another chance to break their own record. Think about you can spend less than 110k EUO, to get a 1500hp machine.
They said prototype because they're still testing, but basically it's still a 4-door framework. In addition, do you think future versions of the SU7 ultra will become faster or slower than their first time?
Like hmm, will it become faster or slower with extra 0.5 tonnes of interior, climat system, music etc, without rollcage and on road tyres... Hard guess indeed.
Slower for sure. Xiaomi tested the production version in Nurburgring as well. Rumor says it is around 7 min. (Well, it is not rumor actually, the CEO let the cat out of the bag in a livestream). They will do an official time attack next spring to be a part of the marketing strategy as the product launch.
you could put a 1000 lb chassis with a full body and 300 FT/LBs of torque and it will still be impressive if it comes within a minute of a top end porsche
For as much of an absolute mess Xiaomi's first car launch has been, this is kinda impressive.. I truly hope they can overcome their issues and improve on their quality over time. Competition is great and pushes every manufacturer to improve their products.
Great commentary. I'm still excited how the SU7 (the standard and max models, don't really care about these crazy ultra monsters) will do when it hits global markets, seems like a really interesting EV.
I don't know. If you're going for a sub 7 minute lap I would prefer to have a roll cage and all the safety equipment. I don't think that takes away from the lap time. But the part about being a prototype does take away from the record. And honestly I'm actually looking into buying this car. It has great looks and it's a great deal. I like my vacuum cleaners cheap and not porsche money.
As I know, there are 4 SU7 Ultra & 2 SU7 Ultra Prototype there in Nürburgring。But with 2 days rain, they only get 1hour chance to run only one lap for Prototype.
Is Rudolf Dittrich, former technical director vehicle development at BMW Group Motorsport, really "head of Xiaomi EV Europe R&D" now? They displayed a Chinese flag, but sure did they get German support from Bilstein and Co...
One thing people should look into potentially it is using a smaller battery pack vs the production spec? Someone did an interview and said the car could not complete two laps on the ring from a Chinese reporter from China. The car supposed to have a 107 kwh battery I believe and rumor was 93 kwh battery or smaller. Battery weight is significant the VW pikes Peak car had a 40 Kwh battery.
It's crazy the progress Xiaomi has made in such a short space of time. They are going to be a very big player in the near future. The SU7 is also a beautiful car. One of the few EVs I would ever consider buying.
I'm not sure if they're ahead of European brands. But Volkswagen is selling the ID3 in China for 100,000 yuan, or about 14,000 US dollars... Of course, in the end, the ID3 only ranked 65th in sales last month.
Most European brands (which have been around for many decades) can't make EVs for shit which is sad considering how quickly China has been able to do it in no time. VW about to go bankrupt yet again.
The production version of this car is half the price of a Taycan GT w/ Weissach pack, but this has better performance, lap time (tests were measured around 6:50) and rear seats. Meanwhile Volkswagen is closing up factories in Germany and all manufacturers are losing the Chinese car market, which is the biggest car market in the world. Something is definitely happening.
This reminds me of the Unplugged Performance Plaid lap times. Big headlines, scant details to explain that the car is heavily modified and probably on slicks. But headlines and clickbait are the name of the game, as you pointed out.
its a prototype aka you can put whatever you want as long as driver was safe. Thats it, You want real record? make it a production car, get it notarized(not saying its 100% reliable inspection, but at least its there), and lap it
BTW, I had seen several previous “pieces”covering Xiaomi’s Nuremberg tests and was aware of possible bad weather on their scheduled test days. I was never under the impression they were going to test a production model. I thought it was clear, including images, that the car would be a prototype in race trim. I’ll give the Xiaomi PR team a break if there was any confusion. After all, what previous experiences do they have marketing competition cars when they usually market smartphones, smart watches, computers, etc.?
It was already said at last night's launch that there would be a production version to test out In less than half an hour, more than 3,000 units have been pre-ordered.
Actually，because of rainy weather, they only had one hour to test from11-12 am, And the team decided to start in 11:50，and the road would more drier, so it’s only chance for xiaomi and David, beacaus the next day is xiaomi publishing day.that’s why he need to make sure stable and safety ,btw this car is 11k US dollars in China, it’s affordable to me but Im still waiting xiaomi
@@grimmig13 You are totally forgetting the price difference. This car costs way less than the Nevera. The fact this performs so well for the price is a big statement.
@@UgglemannenFTW So you're saying the Nevera is too expensive to have another go at setting a lap time. Because if you're not and we stop putting words in each other's mouth, I'm not forgetting the price difference, nor the performance difference, nor the condition both cars were in when they set their lap records and I don't care... I just wanna see Rimac come back to the Ring and set a better lap time than 7:05, as I'm sure the car is more than capable. P.S. If the Nevera was built in China, it would be cheaper too. I'm replying from my Xiaomi Redmi 4X
The ultra mass production car will get the 1300 ps motors for almost sure, and this thing can spin pretty fast. What we wont get is the roll cage that increase body rigidlity and the weight reduction of 200 so kg because the infotament and interior insulation. The sound damping mats are heavy. But with the bug in the run and mixture of moise surface. The mass production car will get smiliar time with slick tire and dry road condition. Yeah, you are getting the aero package. Because the base car is pumping out 600+ ps with decent aero package. And this ultra is actually a new car build from ground up.
I don't think it was the leaf. The xiaomi cars are set up in a way that if you depress the brake peddle and the throttle at the same time, the system will curtail the throttle inputs for 12 seconds. This is so because if it is driven in such a manner in town it will be consider misuse/abuse of the inputs.
4th fastest of all prototype cars is still very admirable result, and great progress over only several years of development. I like there are more choices on the market! Not to mention the for sale version of Ultra is merely 810000 RMB, which is much cheaper than the Taycan Turbo…
Very impressive for a mobile phone to lap the Nords sub 7
🔥🔥🔥and the batteries didn't catch fire🔥🔥🔥
It's called the future.
@@anthonybugge5220 It's called Bullshit, right in this video.
Just saw a xiaomi car with 6xx hp just crash because brakes failed so I couldnt trust a 1500hp chinese supercar
Well that’s what they pay for using PRC made Brembo
Making fourth place in the prototype category, from a mobile phone company, with mere 3 years of car-making experience, is still an insane achievement.
Eh. Prototype means very little limits/regulations. They basically threw the most powerful motors on the most stripped down car and you can tell by all the $250 go kart like shaking and rattling. Let’s see what they can do with a street version of this, I’d be impressed if they can combine refinement with this time.
@@crs1474 Its road car version of the Ultra has been released. At the price of slightly over 100k usd. Looking forward to see how the road car performs on Nurb
Porsche should just split the "doors" on the 919 Hybrid Evo into 4 , drive one lap and call it a day
Xiaomi should just sell the prototype and call it a day
Sadly, youtube comments show me the ignorance and arrogance of westerners and people doesn’t know Chinese Car Industry or won’t give a F. It took Xiaomi only three years to build the SU7 and SU7 MAX and they've been very successful in the Chinese market. Not to mention that the SU7 Max only costs around $42,000 and has 673 horsepower like some super cars and they cost tons more. This prototype on Nürburgring share the same motor and battery as the production version from SU 7 Ultra. Same 1543 hp with active aero parts, and was released today for about $110,000 USD. I don't really see Porsche putting the 919 power unit in any production car in the next 100 years. Even if they do put it in, check at the price of the AMG One, and it's not for everyone. Besides that actually there’s another Car brand named Zeeker, that produces the 001FR a four door saloon with 1300HP, about the less price as this Xiaomi, and it's been on the market for a while.😅
@@Frank-vi6zt in any case, no matter how this car drove there, it did it better than the competitor from apple)
or just stickers on the outside with lines that look like doors! which would be just as usable as the doors on this car!!
@@Frank-vi6zt The Chinese car industry, like every other Chinese industry, is low quality and full of stolen tech. This car has been made to put in a lap on the ring, if you tried to do the same in the production version you'd die because there's no chance they will build customer cars to any sort of standard. Its a scam, just like everything else from China.
The impressive part is that Xiaomi was making smartphones for the last decade and they just decided to make car like 3 years ago 😂
@@oursonvie developing EVs is very simple compared to ICE cars, and with slave labour at their disposal they could quite easily offset the cost of getting a few western engineers and some corporate espionage
a lot of salty comments failed to understand the progress Xiaomi evolves, but rather trashing it merely because it's a Chinese company.
@@vincentdesunI think it’s more of a conglomerate (like Tata)
Having the hole weight of the Chinese government behind your company is very helpful, also China has access to many companies technologies and production techniques, so if someone can pull it out, it is a Chinese company lol
@@StoneCoolds Xiaomi's success is due to China's complete electric vehicle industry chain. Electric vehicles are an industry supported by the Chinese government. This started more than 10 years ago. It is not targeted at Chinese manufacturers. All electric vehicles produced in China by European and American manufacturers are subsidized. This is why Tesla is going to China to build a super factory. Of course, the subsidies stopped 2 years ago. Electric vehicles are now in a stage of rapid development. They will be updated like mobile phones. Through AI, they will become real partners and handle various affairs of various car owners, rather than cold machines. With the development of solid-state battery technology and artificial intelligence driving, electric vehicles will explode in the next few years and will completely end gasoline vehicles. It will be very expensive to buy gasoline vehicles in the future.
Xiaomi's car is better than Porsche's smartphone
@danbarb9728they do, collaboration with huawei
@danbarb9728 I don't make car or smartphone. I just make jokes
@danbarb9728 the joke flew past your head
@danbarb9728 they do not make them, but they do indeed sell Smartphones
@danbarb9728
Everybody can make an ev? Try asking Apple. What a joke.
One needs to realize that this lap record, no matter whether it was from a prototype or mass production car, was accomplished by a 4-door, on a mostly wet surface, from a cell phone company, who doesn't have hundred years of automotive knowhow under their belt! It is from a company practically making car the very first time. That alone is unbelievable ! You got to give them credit. If you think that is easy, try ask any car company to build a prototype 4 door to slash that record, then you know how hard it is! By the way, the VW IDR is also a prototype that is out of reach to everyone and it doesn't haul your mother-in-law in the back seats while achieving the lap record!
Try hauling your mother-in-law in this 'mass produced' XIAOMI🤭
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If you saw other videos from Misha's main channel, there are many amatuers who can build their own race car, which perform quite competitively on Nürburgring. Today, you can buy the technology of each car part from the world market and assemble it yourself. This is what Rimac cars actually started from, and this is what Xiaomi is doing. Yes, it requires top engineering skills to achieve such track record, but creating a mass-produced street legal car is completely another story from creating one prototype for a race track.
@Zeeraha you are talking about the Rimac auto industry wrongly
you think they didn’t hire teams of designers and engineers with decades of experience to create cars for them?
Word is, they’ve only got 1 hour to do the lap time but because of the weather conditions, the driver waited for the track to dry up more until the last 10 minute, and he only did 1 lap, that’s it. So they definitely can improve the set up and with good temperature and track condition, it will be a sub 6:30 car easily.
I was thinking Porsche should put a sliding door on the 919 for a glove compartment and market it as a van
Porsche has weissach package... 4doors 2seats
So it was Xiaomi su7 ultra weissach 😂
@@jarosawniekrasz5123 exactly, if it's rebranded vw everyone excuses all the lies, but when someone else does it they all riot.
then do it, we 'll respect it as the fastest van.
now where could I buy that
If we compare apple to apple, it should be a heavily tuned taycan
Considering the conditions that's pretty impresive. Kudos to the driver, handled everything so well
yeah they lost about 20 seconds due to the wet track
in full dry condition and a fixed throttle pedal the car can pass easily under 6mn30
This is not a car its a gutted prototype.
Jealously on its peak 😂😂@@Chris-hw4mq
@@Chris-hw4mqok the gutted prototype will do sub 6:30 in ideal conditions
@@semicolon101ok go buy chinese crap cars that will fall apart in 1 year.
@@Chris-hw4mqto be honest that also sounds like BMW engines lol
It's already 2024, stopping saying some Chinese new achievements as FAKE, is ridiculous. If you say fake, prove it.
You watched the Video? He literally stated that this video is made to target the media
@@Nisimo6787 Don't even try, man. Pretty sure these are Chinese bots. This happens a lot on any video that is "critical" of a chinse product. Remember every Chinese company is owned and promoted by the CCP.
@@Nisimo6787 then it would a FAKE title to please clowns
Except the footage is sped up to make it look faster.
It might be an exaggeration. Mind you if you go by "current" or future ability, technically the moon landing 50 years ago probably never happened either.
I don't think Xiaomi ment to say "we are faster than production cars". I think they ment to say "the only prototype cars faster than us is proper hypercars with much much more efficient aerodynamics".
You say 4 doors mean nothing, but a sedan body vs single seater racecar body means everything.
I think this is super impressive and the time will improve a lot.
Who says 4 door means sedan body? And what is a sedan? What is a door?
That was the point: Its all a gentlemans agreement to what this "class" entails, one of the factors being that is a street legal production vehicle. Otherwise you could call any car 4 door or sedan, since there is no fixed measurements or definltions for either.
@@GoldenCroc it share same Body-in-white with production version. 😅
@@yinshengwang887 So do a lot of pure racecars that wouldnt be street legal even on the moon. See my point?
@@GoldenCroc A sedan body means a car that my 60yo mom would agree to buy and sit in.
Xiaomi SU7 is a prototype, but it is fundamentally modified from a car which my mom would agree to buy. In fact the base SU7s are already very common on the streets of Beijing now, you may even run into a few when ride-hailing using your phone.
Try getting a porsche 919 on Uber.
He's a low IQ German yes they exists 😅😂
"there are nothing on the rear, some racing stuff, back door are not needed here"
- taycan weissac pack left the chat.
Not saying that’s it’s the same thing, but where do we draw the line of “useable” 4 doors? Because the Taycan turbo GT weissach has 4 doors but no rear seats at all. I think the marketing was bad but the lap was great and was categorized officially in the right spot. Great video as always, can’t wait to see if they get a sub 6:30 in the right conditions
He is saying how many doors you have doesn't matter! What does is if its a production car like the Taycan Turbo GT Weissach or a one of special that should be compared to non production and race cars..
@@davvehallberg all companies have specially made, one-of-a-kind tires, ridiculous camber settings, spacers, weight removal from all invisible places, software unlocks to push the car and the battery to destruction and many more. None of the "factory spec" runs will paint an accurate picture.
I mean having slicks and that extreme a cage auto disqualifies it for me. I mean Subarus N24 Race car with 1/4th the power the Xiaomi and similar level of chassis/suspenion/tire mods is only 1-2 seconds slower. I repeat a car with 1526hp is only 1-2 seconds faster than one with 350hp
@@cademckee7276 because of weight, also it's not really just 1-2s faster.
They lost power due to sensor failure for some seconds + some parts of the track was damp.
I enjoy seeing manufacturers doing stuff like this to achieve whatever hyper specific superlative. It's fun and silly which is something that is lacking in the industry these days.
So many sour grapes in the comments.
That was expected.
"It appears that my superiority has caused some controversy."
This usually happens when China/Chinese are involved. If it was done by european/japanese brands, everyone is gonna glaze on it.
@@YakubNg
Thing: 🙂
Thing, Europe: 😃
Thing, Japan: 😍
Thing, China: 😡
@@YakubNgprobably has to do with the ccp being bullies?
They actually booked 2 full days but it was raining, so they could only do this one lap. They needed to get this lap in because they are releasing the production version, so yes the “good marketing” is in fact needed
So, these guys are frauds then.. !? Notching a lap record by effectively running a bare-bones chassis setup with no back seats, no door panels, no dash, unknown motor & battery calibration metrics in order to market the road-legal or homologated version of this car sounds extremely dumb! This could easily turn from "good marketing" to a potentially shady marketing.
@@cYaNiDE881 lol this car will sell for around 70k in China, keep coping 🤣🤣🤣
@@cYaNiDE881actually rumor that they will test the production one in 2025, this is like a fun science marketing project test.
@@cYaNiDE881they claimed clearly the difference between the production version and the prototype😢at least you should search the information first before said they are fraud😢
@@cYaNiDE881 Its funny because stripping an EV's interior out does less than an ICE equivalent. EV's, due to the battery pack, are going to be heavy - so the %mass change by stripping an interior of an EV is going to be drastically different to an ICE equivalently stripped.
I like the comedy how people want to justify their hate for China 😂😂
and writes it on iphone that are produced in China with 90% of chinses components 🤣🤡
THAT'S how they get caught by surprise when CHINA EV nailed their ass.
Never saw it coming.
Let them continue. Lets sleeping dogs lie.
ON this record, its DRIVER and Car. Not just car. The driver is VERY familiar with circuit.
A totalitarian government that heavily restricts people’s rights and disappears dissenters and religious minorities. Ya jeez can’t believe people hate China…
@@lavine6069 the critical components such as the CPU is from Taiwan, they only made the non complex parts that can produce anywhere else on the planet. The reason why companies produce them in china is because it's dirt cheap workforce getting paid pennies on the dollar.
@@napalmenthusiast4423 lol the reason companies produce in china is because china is superior in every way. go to mexico or africa or india for cheap workforce broke boy
"Fastest Mobile Phone in Nurburgring History" Could have been a greatest and true marketing statement.
Too salty in here.. c'mon guys sub $100k 1500hp, sub 7s, 4 door saloon.... Fron a home appliance maker! All other 'performance'/exotic 'car' manufacturers should be embarrassed lol
We as a consumer have to give them credit and appreciation because it will make other company make more competitive cars.
If we defend those cars company and mock newer and better cars, it means we don't want improvement.
>from a home appliance maker
You mean from the chinese government with tech stolen from the rest of the world?
LMFAOOO you really think that race spec purpose build prototype car is less than 100k okay buddy😂😂😂
@@jaybomb5022106k
@@jaybomb5022it's 114k msrp
Although the comments section is full of complaints, if they knew this 1500hp beast only costs 100k USD, they'd probably lose their minds. lol
this one on the race track in probably 500k not 100k, its enhenced version
@@tluangasailo3663 Они лишь добавили каркас безопасности, спортивное сиденье и руль и убрали лишние сиденья и элементы дизайна. Учитывая условия в которых была трасса при рекорде, время сходит +- одинаково. И это не так уж и дорого, точно не 500к, может быть 150к.
@@tluangasailo3663 this version sells at 114k the others start at 30k
600 hp wasn't it??
@SirishShrestha-w6z 1500-1600
The lap time record claim is indeed very misleading for not mentioning it's a prototype. And that's a HUGE difference. But from an engineering standpoint, a true professional would take the four-door claim seriously. Many folks have overlooked the fact that body shape is _a very important factor_ when it comes to sport performance. Just as everyone knows that sedans are sportier than SUVs, supercars/hypercars(/even F1 cars like Porsche 919 EVO) with lower weight, lower center of gravity and more aerodynamic shape, are inherently sportier than sedans. Two-door sedans also have an advantage over four-door sedans. Why is the design of a supercar so different from that of a regular car? Not just because it looks cool, but it really does help in reaching the extreme performance, at the cost of functionality, comfort and space. So this gives some legitimacy to Xiaomi's emphasis on four-door. It's really impressive that Xiaomi can make such a fast car, even if its body shape is basically that of an everyday car, and it has decent rear space. Despite Xiaomi's lack of expertise accumulation, they would certainly achieve even better results if they made the car in the shape of a supercar. They just deliberately chose to make a four-door prototype to help sell their four-door production version, as the four-door version being most practical could sell the most.
Try think about the recently tested Lucid Air with an even more normal-sedan-style shape and lots of rear space, that's an engineering masterpice in a somewhat similar way. It's not a prototype though, with lots of equipment adding tons of weight and nothing stripped down. Xiaomi's production version will be a more fair match to the Lucid and I'm looking forward to its lap time release. It is then that a fair judgment can be made.
这车的外形是拿出去卖的， 2门卖谁啊
Ok. Except the exact word prototype appears everywhere
@@moonwinghuang3913 防滚架卖你是吧
just from the first few sentences I know that you know nothing about cars. you jsut heard about center of gravity once and now you think it is the most important thing in a lap time.
It literally has the word "prototype" written on the name of the car
Marketing and production spec argument aside, that's a really impressive time. It wasn't even a perfect lap so could've gone much faster because the throttle stopped working due to sensor issues. It could've probably done a 6:30 with better conditions.
Calling this fake is just dishonest, This is an official time and it clearly stated that this is a prototype, I get it, you are afraid of the chinese, and you should, they graduate more engineers a year than the entire UE in a decade.
720s front end from Temu
Who cares
😂 except Temu does 70+% of their sales in the US….
@@cedricgtrable I do.
@@cedricgtrablegenau wen juckt das? Ist nichts anderes wie ein Quickie, oder wie beim Bergrennen: nach 3x 2:00 Minuten ist der Spuk vorbei. Die Teile bleiben trotzdem für die Langstrecke noch immer unbrauchbar, auch wenn sie die Nordschleife in nur 3 Minuten umrunden
mix from the taycan and 720s
This is a nonsense rant, Misha. The standard Xiaomi SU7 is still half a second faster 0-100 than a Taycan on a normal road.
They said 4 doors, not 4 seats, so no fool play. The street car is awesome and the prototype is wild.
Try to make a car like that in your garage if it is that easy.
😂😂 Taycan had 2 seats in the GT
This car will definitely break its own record as a production car putting in mind the weather conditions and the cut of power it had during the only lap they did. I understand why German car manufacturers are so damn scared.
Germans scared? America straight up banned chinese EVs because they know Tesla would be toast 😂
Dr of what? Yappology
Dude, yesterday they were making light bulbs, phones, and pots, and today they have an electric car flying around the Nürburgring.
Don’t get hung up on the marketing, you’re not reviewing other ads, are you?
You should be impressed that a company that made electric kettles now has a truly fast electric car.
and 90% of the car isn't from Xiaomi. It's no surprise that "everyone" can build cars now. Because it is just so much easier now and you can buy most parts from external manufacturers.
@@CarstenNRW everyone but Apple
@@CarstenNRW yeah. Where's everyone, Apple?
@@eamoncat ok cool the company decided not to release a car yet because they have a crazy profit margin which would go down. But the simple fact that Apple, Google, Sony, Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Panasonic and so on work on electric cars or at least the batteries/motors for them shows what I mean. Doesn't mean they will all release cars if they don't see enough potential in it to push the company. Then there's companies like TOGG, Vinfast or like 500 manufacturers in China which would never be a thing without electric motors. Lucid and Rivian as example from USA.
Many of them will fail obviously because there's no market for like 1000 car manufacturers but there's a reason why they pop up like Popcorn everywhere around the world the last decade
@@CarstenNRW where did get 90%? making shxxt up much
XiaoMi website mentioned they will put the production SU7 Ultra on Nurburgring in 2025, and they admitted the current record is for non-production car record, in-fact they were targeting the Subaru record from 7-years ago... which coincidentally were also build by Prodrive!
But yea, their marketing team + news portal are misrepresenting it.
All the news I've seen are Xiaomi prototypes. Who told you this was a production car?
@@famousraperandrapperkriswu656 I think this is what he meant, but he might have misunderstood what they meant by it. Quoting Xiaomi from its official site "Xiaomi EV's challenge plan is divided into two phases: the first phase involves using a prototype car to challenge the non-production lap records at the Nürburgring in October 2024; the second phase aims to use a production model to officially target the production car lap records at the Nürburgring in 2025."
@@famousraperandrapperkriswu656
Quoting Xiaomi "Xiaomi EV's challenge plan is divided into two phases: the first phase involves using a prototype car to challenge the non-production lap records at the Nürburgring in October 2024; the second phase aims to use a production model to officially target the production car lap records at the Nürburgring in 2025.". This is from their official site but I think he misunderstood the post, it doesn't say the SU7 Ultra Prototype is going to be a production car but rather they will use the production model to set a new record.
Again Quoting Xiaomi "Xiaomi SU7 Ultra is now available for pre-order, with official release scheduled for March 2025. The pre-order price is set at 814,900 yuan, with a 10,000 yuan intention deposit required."
and the smartest thing is they do this run in bad weather and they will run the real production car in good weather..so the time diffrent will be similar yk what i mean 😂 smart xiaomi
They also revealed the production spec car like hours after they publish this. It is waaay tamer than the prototype and retains the normal SU7's interior. I think it can give a fight to Taycan GT. Lucid also has been testing on Nordschleife so that's another contender. BYD's Yangwang U9 also has been spotted many many times, I think they're in German much longer than Xiaomi, but that car is more like Rimac competitor with its supercar body.
I am disappointed at your comment and feel like you are also not presenting the whole picture. This prototype is out of a sedan, which naturally differs from coupes, that’s what the Mi team means by “four door”, which is what usually Chinese car will be classified. Don’t you think sedans differs from coupes in terms of lap time? And another truth, you might not know, but that’s ok, is that this sedan actually has a very large second row space, even bigger than most mid-size sedans.
Soo impresive for a Phone company and for sure better than a S Model Plaid... On May/June can be at least 20/30 seconds faster
Yes, this is a prototype 4 door EV with rollcage added and it gets around the Nurburgring faster than either a production Porsche Taycan EV or a production Rimac Nevera EV.
The lap times are facts. There was no deception. Yes, it is good to know that the Xiaomi vehicle was a prototype but knowing that doesn't change the lap times - the lap times were recorded at the Nurburgring and were entered into the historical record. Those lap times aren't in dispute so your quibbles are without consequence. And, contrary to your misdrawn analogy, it isn't as if the lap time of the SU7 Ultra amounts to nothing more than the trivial achievement of posting the fastest time for a yellow car at Nurburgring (which, in any case, would hardly be welcome news to Lamborghini). I think you know what a lap time is, so, please don't pretend that verbal quibbles change anything. The SU7 Ultra which Xiaomi claims will get a production release is a very fast car.
A question: Aren't you aware that rollcages are routinely added to production vehicles which take to the Nurburgring track under race or race-like conditions?
Are those cars also completely stripped and made of carbon lol. You stans are nuts man hahaha.
@@SpartanArmy117 And, there it is. Another quibble without consequence that a mountain of facts just can't subdue.
If you had a lively mind you would've asked yourself different questions, technical questions that might help confirm how/why this SU7 got around the Nurburgring so quickly. Motor racing turns on high quality engineering built on multiple fields of science not your sense of righteousness or the size of your mouth.
I suggest you take that underworked brain of yours and do something useful with it. You might find that you are capable of offering a comment or two that add to the substance of a discussion rather than just adding a bad smell.
If I'm not mistaken Xiaomi should be able to answer your questions. Direct your enquiries to them. None of this changes the fact that a light version of the SU7 is blisteringly fast around the Nurburgring, a fact that you don't seem to be able to compute.
@@SpartanArmy117 Yes, I mentioned that the car was a prototype. Thank you for your pointless quibble. I suggest you take your concerns up with Xiaomi.
I'll let the engineering and the lap times do the talking. Those facts are what gets under your skin and has you creating fantasies in order to ignore them.
@@chris27gea58 Oh thank god you'll let those lap times do the talking with zero context, that makes you a genius. At least Xi will bump your social credit score hahaha.
@@SpartanArmy117 And, yet the context of the lap time was completely clear - it was a non-series result, viz. a result that applies to a prototype, one off or custom-built race car - and the result was issued in line with standard practice for the measurement and certification of an official lap time at the Nurburgring. Measurement is over the full length of the track timed with a flying start. Timekeeping is supervised by a notary and the vehicles were scrutineered with regard to their series-production state. Would you like more than that? Do you think that the Nurburgring doesn't know how to do its own job? Would you prefer a bit more mystery or deniability to the lap time result? The thing is, the lap time is simply an official record of what happened on track! And, that official record is what you just can't take.
For the record, Xiaomi will be returning to the Nurburgring in 2025. So, you better develop some new strategies for your lap time denialism. The house of cards that you and the vlogger would like people to buy as reality just isn't selling.
Not sure that is true about the amount of laps its done. It was also driving at a trackday earlier this year and I got quite a few clips of it and then again on ipool later in the year...
What is crazy is the 4th fastest prototype is still very impressive, whats not is trying to spin it like your out here in the same class as my stock 3 series.
Porsche be like when your mate starts to beat you in a game.
*Leans forward in the chair*
Yes haha
The biggest question is whether Porsche Can make a phone that is more powerful than Xiaomi?
@@AprezaRenaldy I've seen this exact comment way too many times in this section, I truly hope that at least one of you isn't actually retarded, and you're messing around.
But Porsches attempt car will cost way more... have to realise the price difference aswell.
@@UgglemannenFTWyou'll probably have to buy two of these to make it last as long as a proper car so you have you have to realise that as well
They let Xiaomi's phone department to come up with a name for the car 😅
BMWs and Audis' model names sound like generic smartphone models anyway, sadly.
Honestly true, I was playing about the 'Ultra' part of the name.
@@stradale72 Yeah, I got it. As a bonus, they sort of used Porsche's font. Huawei used to sell Porsche Design smartphones, if memory serves me right. :)
BMW It should also Made Android
Like the name Ultra❤
This car should worry every legacy car manufacturer. To go from making phones to making a car that can set records - true or not - on the ring is crazy lol.
Ford CEO calls it an "extinction event" after driving the Xiaomi. Western manufacturers are done if they don't innovate out of this.
EV manufacturers are really tech manufacturers especially Xiaomi and Tesla. That's why legacy auto can't compete
Can you talk about why Volkswagen is closing three factories in Germany? Is it because they sell the ID3 in China for 100,000 yuan?
Actually making that video for this week. Whole VAG is fkd.
VW but Audi is shiiiiiiii
EU is destroying everything inside EU. lol
They took the EV bait and are suffering the consequences now.
Not only that but after the US bombed the Russian gas pipeline. Germany lost access to cheap Russian gas and now has to pay more for it's energy.
They have themselves to blame for getting rid of their nuclear power stations.
Either way, VW is not in a good place.
@@mgcharoudin2 most companies that tried to do shit in covid while china just caught up to them were. instead of doing what china did we just let the virus strive, now we get to eat the consequences.
but yea, probably vax bad and you won't even see the bigger picture in your video lol.
when someone who spends most of his time on single track tries to talks geopolitics it's time to ignore his opinion.
i don't even expect to hear a sentence about shareholders. That would be too deep for most of the viewers.
Fake record? Or more like salty + click bait. The companies clearly stated this is a prototype non street legal result, they will have another production run in 2025 before the actual sales begin. So is that mean the result is fake? Nah
Your 100% right. The results are fantastic either way. And they had an issue even with this amazing time. I don't get the "Chinese" hate. If something is good it's good simple
It’s a fake record because compared to other prototype cars it’s not the fastest, yeah you could say “fastest 4 door prototype” but that would be disingenuous bc most if not all other prototypes in its class are 2door vehicles
Stop reaching
@@Gekayos Please read what you just said 🤣
@@nagi-springfield93 I did, point out where I’m wrong
Tri motors, over 1500hp and all for 60-70k Euros. The Ultra has new uprated adjustable suspension so i'm guessing that's why the driver avoided hitting those curbs in a two+ tonne prototype.
It's so interesting that porche just released lap record in Shanghai International Circuit not long ago before Xiaomi release at Nurburgring. It seems that they are both interested in each other countries' circuits.
因为今年保时捷在中国的销量减少了40%，它需要做一些宣传证明自己的实力。
“最快四门车”这不是小米发明的噱头。上一个这样宣部的是斯巴鲁wrx sti type ra nbr
@@呓想家 问题人家先出的量产车，而且人家是大张旗鼓说要去打破四门纪录才去的，最后更是发布了500台的限量ra，人家可没拿原型车碰瓷量产车哈？
Ain't no way my mom's phone maker did a lap in their first car with... Wait for it 1000hp
They did .
1548hp，Two V8s motors and one V6s motor
I think all the jokes here about this Xiaomi SU7 are nervous jokes. That’s what people do when they’re scared of something.
they laughing now, give it 2-3 years.
It's an EV that's gutted on slicks. Irrelevant.
@jtherealtor of course its irrelevant, but that's not the point.
Of course they are scared, China has been making electric motors that outputs 500hp per-wheel, A 2025 Porshce 911-4 GTS only has 478 hp. How incredibly behind those new european gasoline cars are is unimaginable.
@@vincentdesun A Ford Coyote can make 4000+ hp. EV and china is so far behind.
banger lap if you ask me, even with the issues regarding the wheel speed sensor and bad track conditions, 6.30 seems quite easy to achieve
Keep sleeping and don't wake up. That's exactly what the Chinese want to see.
Lmao, wake up to what?
@@esesel7831 Chinese EV propaganda. They are so desperate lol.
@@uraniumcranium2613 desperate for what? The rest of the industry sat on their ass and now the chinese are 10 years ahead. The only western manufacturer in the west that had a edge, Tesla made a broken fridge that no one wants. The CEO of Ford drives a chinese car since their own cars are shit for fuck sake
@@schandler4530 wake up for a no.7？
Prodrive is Chinese now?
People trying so hard do discredit the brand. LOL.
The brand discredited itself by lying. They couldve been honest and everyone wouldve been impressed with the vehicle.
Slick tires detected, lap time rejected.
@@MobinBrown What happened to Xiaomi? They didn't tell you it was a prototype? Or is it your lack of English comprehension?
Yeah if it was a western brand people would go bananas.
@@UgglemannenFTW Bananas? Mercedes AMG One did 6:29 with semislick tires. 😂
Xiaomi was founded in 2021 and began making cars in December 2023...let that sink in.
This performance is awesome..
2010, not 2021.
Don't forget the changes behind Xiaomi's success. China now has the world's most comprehensive industrial system and the most mature EV electric vehicle supply chain.
Not 2021 😂
@@coryplum5375 Probably meant as a car company.
@@davidxu5834 the same company xiaomi for cellphone and car production .
It is a prototype, literally, but more close to GT3 car instead of traditional "sports prototype" race cars. The chassis is production spec, also the battery and the entire electric powertrain. The modification including removing all the interior (of course), adding roll cage, slightly changing geometry of the suspension (but still roughly the same mechanism on the production car), changing all covers to carbon fiber, and installed the aerodynamic kits designed by Prodrive, and that's it. It's a heavily modified car, yes, but it's still a modified car, not a fully custom-build prototype.
In fact, Xiaomi intended to build the car by themselves at the beginning, but they have obviously no experiences on how to tuned a car for tracks like Nurburgring, and they have to hiring (at a high cost) Prodrive to help them design and made the modification.
Also, you mentioned the Evija X, it's also a great car, but their marketing is also nowhere better - they called it *"fastest production-spec chassis on Nurburgring".* tbh it sounds even worse to me.
The production street legal version is for sale today about 100k usd
The truth seems to matter less and less each day.
It’s a cultural thing in China unfortunately
@@starstencahl8985 where were you when rebranded vw lied?
What was the fine VW was fined for a few years ago?
@@starstencahl8985yeah, Im sure Prosche and Nissan is using wear index 600 all season tire to lap the Ring.
@@starstencahl8985 India
If you follow EV tech then you know this is about new motors coming from China that are compact and powerful enough to top 500 hp for each motor. This is a signal to the industry that 2000hp 800volt architecture CHEAP in cost vehicles are on the way. There will be nostalgia buyers of ICE vehicles, but they will not be the fastest cars on the road in the near future.
Yep, just like how my battery operated Seiko is more consistently accurate than my Rolex. This is the car world’s version of the quartz crisis.
lets see it do 3 laps in a row at the same pace.
@@Mr.SlipperyX Wont matter by the time these cars hit the market. ICE cars will be for the super wealthy that pay premium to drive slower cars on the road.
@@Mr.SlipperyX 电池会没电
I don't think your average person should have 1000hp-2000hp cars when they can't handle 100hp-300hp ones.
The fact that a smartphone/appliance company can build anything that can lap the ring at those time itself is pretty crazy. Gotta give credit when it's dude and not that is definitely not a 4 door sedan lol
Remember than even though this is a prototype, the production version of the Ultra with the same powertrain just got released the same day the video was uploaded. I'll patiently wait for the laptime of the production version. Certainly at least 10 secs slower, but that'll still be a very competirive lap time. Although you might say "ahh it's cheating they got 500 more horses" remember that this is cheaper. Locally sold ¥815K or $114K. Reliability may be questioned too, but let's not forget that this is the very first car Xiaomi designed themselves.
I really doubt the production version can go faster than the Rimac Nevera which failed going sub-seven (also in imperfect conditions)...
EU up to 45.3% on China EVs from Oct. 30
Slicks alone is about 20 sec.
@@MihaelKoepRimac Nevera is a car that weighs 400 kg more, so of course it doesn't compare. It's a car for a straight, not the twisties.
@@Sidewinder5 I'm aware of that, but this lap is in a really bad condition with wet surface and leaves all over the place. I assume on a dry warm lap, the production version would be at least 10 sec slower.
The Xiaomi SU7 Ultra was just launched by Lei Jun, CEO Xioami in china for sale on 28th October 2024. The price of this car is 815,000 Yuan. Its no longer a prototype ! Xiaomi held a huge & long product launch with includes all of Xiaomi's devices, home appliances, Xiaomi 15 phones & finally the SU7 Ultra. Of cause the actual car is without those roll cages setup for track racing. But for a 4 door street legal car with those specs is in supercar category...simply crazy & amazing!
They can't handle the truth 😂
Chinese here, the production version of the Xiaomi Su7 ultra just lanuched today, selling at 810,000 chinese dollars(right about 100k euro), it claims that it will gives you 1548 bhp and a sub 2 seconds 0-96kph(claims it can go 0-100 in 1.9s)...Xiaomi says that the production model features an identical Electronic motor system(EIC) with the prototype, but the production model is clearly missing some heavy aero kits and the wide body.
Honestly I am probably the least Chinese that will buy a Xiaomi car: I just bought an Elantra N, I was never a fan of EV, or a believer to the new-coming Chinese car manufactors, hell I even never liked a Xiaomi phone, but those lap times are really, really solid results. If those numbers on the production version is anywhere close to the fact, I am so happy to see the impact Xiaomi may do on the market.
800K RMB is 100k EUR, man you need to get math right.
@@badminverse2136 True, no way a 1500bhp EV costs the same as a second hand golf😂
PS： edited the missing 0 on the 100k euro number, my fault :/
@@yeowtom1788evs are cheaper to produce.
lmao, Trust me bro, this guy's math makes me wondering how he survived his childhood ...
你跑赛道不用赛道套装吗？？？平时开车当然是普通轮胎套件，你就使劲黑
You can buy Xiaomi SU7 starting at about $60,000 in Russia
click bait is much older than the Internet. it just wasn't call "click" bait, there was nothing to click on a newspaper.
Well the thing is Xiaomi could just produce and sell a handful of these and now it's no longer a "prototype".
As far as I'm concerned it's much closer to the taycan spec than it is to the IDR, since it's just a modified version of the production vehicle (like the taycan)
i was also thinking 3 hours ago. I hope Misha see it and give us his thoughts. and here we are! Thank you for being you MIsha! Props!
4 doors=larger, heavier, more passenger space, more luggage space, higher drag coefficient, designed for households, with more impact on speed.
This is like if the gt300 Prius or gt300 Impreza or gt300 legacy went around the nurburgring, it has "4 doors" (that don't all function) but it has 4 doors
Im not impressed at all
an unrestricted prototype thats not legal for street.. so the record means nothing compared to street cars
if Porsche decided to throw an unrestricted GT2 RS on the ring without limitations, they would go below 6:15 with ease.
💯
But they won’t do it because VW group is bankrupt.
Ye but its not their first car lmaoooo
First, it has to have 4 doors. Second, you wouldn't know for sure before it's actually done.
GT2 RS is a 2 door full blown track focused car, even though it can legally run in the roads.
This Xiaomi is still a 4 door sedan which in production costs half.
The GT2 RS is a great car, don't get me wrong, but you're making a really bad comparison here.
Forever beautiful Xiaomi SU7
Any news about the GT3 RS MR record lap attempt?
They were on the track with a private slot last week, I was too busy to time them.
@@mgcharoudin2 How were the track conditions?
I totally agree is a prototype no a mass production car. But at the same time is on the same chasiss same motor, stripped out with more carbon. The real question is how many second did it really gain from, and how many seconds were lost due to weather condition and sensor malfunction
0:27 wait, do you think "feat" is an abbreviation of "feature"???
Xiaomi marketing team always marketing their product by doing some werid ranking,but this car can comfortably fit 5 adult in it,not some dog sit at the rare,so they call ot fastest 4door is making sense for me.
2 doors ,3 doors, 4 doors, etc but a smart phone company did a sub seven time is great...just imagine a real car company try
Notes:
- there will be production version with a lot o carbon, even roof etc
- it is stripped inside but the cage etc added. Unlikely the weight difference with the top spec production car will be that substantial
- the production car can't use slick tires *because of the largest in class brakes*
Sir ,as your theory，car Length，Wheelbase Length，These conditions do not have any impact at lap record？su 7 is much bigger than taycan turbo gt
Imagine what they can do in 3 years. Outstanding job behind this lap time, they are world class engineers, serial or prototype, no one ever expected that from smartphone company
Yeah, competition is always good, at least for customers. This prototype uses the same chaise, motor, and battery as the Su7 Ultra, which means you can actually purchase a Su7 Ultra and send it to Prodrive to ask them to build another prototype. But I do wish Xiaomi could get a record just using Su7 Ultra. And good job David, so brave, pro drive, amazing, hope this prototype can have another chance to break their own record. Think about you can spend less than 110k EUO, to get a 1500hp machine.
As a consumer. No matter which manufacturer wins,the consumer will be the ultimate winners.
More competition is always good for the customer 👌👌
They said prototype because they're still testing, but basically it's still a 4-door framework. In addition, do you think future versions of the SU7 ultra will become faster or slower than their first time?
Like hmm, will it become faster or slower with extra 0.5 tonnes of interior, climat system, music etc, without rollcage and on road tyres... Hard guess indeed.
Slower for sure. Xiaomi tested the production version in Nurburgring as well. Rumor says it is around 7 min. (Well, it is not rumor actually, the CEO let the cat out of the bag in a livestream). They will do an official time attack next spring to be a part of the marketing strategy as the product launch.
@@kevinliao3657 Generally future iterations should get faster. The Nissan GTR (R35) and Honda NSX are two examples.
you could put a 1000 lb chassis with a full body and 300 FT/LBs of torque and it will still be impressive if it comes within a minute of a top end porsche
For as much of an absolute mess Xiaomi's first car launch has been, this is kinda impressive.. I truly hope they can overcome their issues and improve on their quality over time.
Competition is great and pushes every manufacturer to improve their products.
Great commentary. I'm still excited how the SU7 (the standard and max models, don't really care about these crazy ultra monsters) will do when it hits global markets, seems like a really interesting EV.
It’s impressive because they are a budget phone company that also makes like random household items
I don't know. If you're going for a sub 7 minute lap I would prefer to have a roll cage and all the safety equipment. I don't think that takes away from the lap time. But the part about being a prototype does take away from the record. And honestly I'm actually looking into buying this car. It has great looks and it's a great deal. I like my vacuum cleaners cheap and not porsche money.
Xiaomi SU7 ultra will be available on China on early 2025 with 1300Hp. I only can congrat a new brand that could do that beast
100%!
1500hp, not 1300
And the price of this car in China is 100,000 €
As I know, there are 4 SU7 Ultra & 2 SU7 Ultra Prototype there in Nürburgring。But with 2 days rain, they only get 1hour chance to run only one lap for Prototype.
Is Rudolf Dittrich, former technical director vehicle development at BMW Group Motorsport, really "head of Xiaomi EV Europe R&D" now? They displayed a Chinese flag, but sure did they get German support from Bilstein and Co...
One thing people should look into potentially it is using a smaller battery pack vs the production spec? Someone did an interview and said the car could not complete two laps on the ring from a Chinese reporter from China. The car supposed to have a 107 kwh battery I believe and rumor was 93 kwh battery or smaller. Battery weight is significant the VW pikes Peak car had a 40 Kwh battery.
one more to point out the fantastic laptime of the NIO Ep9 done in 2017
但是，那时候xiaomi还没有考虑造车，这才是最可怕的😂
It's crazy the progress Xiaomi has made in such a short space of time. They are going to be a very big player in the near future. The SU7 is also a beautiful car. One of the few EVs I would ever consider buying.
On tiktok they're screaming about Evs and how any brand can just outpass eurobrands
Normal tiktok
I'm not sure if they're ahead of European brands. But Volkswagen is selling the ID3 in China for 100,000 yuan, or about 14,000 US dollars...
Of course, in the end, the ID3 only ranked 65th in sales last month.
Most European brands (which have been around for many decades) can't make EVs for shit which is sad considering how quickly China has been able to do it in no time. VW about to go bankrupt yet again.
because eurobrands are getting outdated, and will diminish in the next decade or two.
The production version of this car is half the price of a Taycan GT w/ Weissach pack, but this has better performance, lap time (tests were measured around 6:50) and rear seats. Meanwhile Volkswagen is closing up factories in Germany and all manufacturers are losing the Chinese car market, which is the biggest car market in the world. Something is definitely happening.
This reminds me of the Unplugged Performance Plaid lap times. Big headlines, scant details to explain that the car is heavily modified and probably on slicks.
But headlines and clickbait are the name of the game, as you pointed out.
its a prototype aka you can put whatever you want as long as driver was safe. Thats it, You want real record? make it a production car, get it notarized(not saying its 100% reliable inspection, but at least its there), and lap it
Yesterday they announced it su7 ultra 15xx hp road legal 5 seat's for only 115k usd
@hassanalmushaimea1559 then get notarized and lap it, let's see what's the difference
The lap time surpassed Nivera’s ass by a wide margin…
For a tablet... it's a mega lap hahah. Pittard was really soft on it, it's definitely a sub 6.30 lap... Awesome for a tablet :D
Still you cannot deny it is such a milestone Xiaomi achieved considering the fact this is the first time they are into manufacturing car.
BTW, I had seen several previous “pieces”covering Xiaomi’s Nuremberg tests and was aware of possible bad weather on their scheduled test days.
I was never under the impression they were going to test a production model.
I thought it was clear, including images, that the car would be a prototype in race trim.
I’ll give the Xiaomi PR team a break if there was any confusion.
After all, what previous experiences do they have marketing competition cars when they usually market smartphones, smart watches, computers, etc.?
It was already said at last night's launch that there would be a production version to test out
In less than half an hour, more than 3,000 units have been pre-ordered.
Actually，because of rainy weather, they only had one hour to test from11-12 am, And the team decided to start in 11:50，and the road would more drier, so it’s only chance for xiaomi and David, beacaus the next day is xiaomi publishing day.that’s why he need to make sure stable and safety ,btw this car is 11k US dollars in China, it’s affordable to me but Im still waiting xiaomi
Xiaomi SUV
The prototype is waaaaaaay more than 110k USD though.
My genuine prediction is that the production model will in the ballpark of 7’10
The production model is one sale now so let's see
Great car. Imagine Xiaomi in 10 more years time? ❤
the track is damp, dank, wet, slippery. xiaomi can do better next time
Next up, Xiaomi passenger aircraft! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least it nudges Rimac to take the Nevera out for a spin on the Ring again 😝
At least xiaomi can make a better plane than Boeing
@AprezaRenaldy 🤣🤣🤣 i was gonna pose a question if one would rather fly on a Boeing or a Xiaomi, but figured it's too much for a car channel
@@grimmig13 You are totally forgetting the price difference. This car costs way less than the Nevera. The fact this performs so well for the price is a big statement.
@@UgglemannenFTW So you're saying the Nevera is too expensive to have another go at setting a lap time.
Because if you're not and we stop putting words in each other's mouth, I'm not forgetting the price difference, nor the performance difference, nor the condition both cars were in when they set their lap records and I don't care... I just wanna see Rimac come back to the Ring and set a better lap time than 7:05, as I'm sure the car is more than capable.
P.S. If the Nevera was built in China, it would be cheaper too. I'm replying from my Xiaomi Redmi 4X
The prototype only looks like a normal sedan, it cost way more due to having full carbon
The ultra mass production car will get the 1300 ps motors for almost sure, and this thing can spin pretty fast. What we wont get is the roll cage that increase body rigidlity and the weight reduction of 200 so kg because the infotament and interior insulation. The sound damping mats are heavy. But with the bug in the run and mixture of moise surface. The mass production car will get smiliar time with slick tire and dry road condition. Yeah, you are getting the aero package. Because the base car is pumping out 600+ ps with decent aero package. And this ultra is actually a new car build from ground up.
It's funny how ID R has time of 6:05 and that car couldn't make 250km/h
I don't think it was the leaf. The xiaomi cars are set up in a way that if you depress the brake peddle and the throttle at the same time, the system will curtail the throttle inputs for 12 seconds. This is so because if it is driven in such a manner in town it will be consider misuse/abuse of the inputs.
小米为什么生产四门车去跑圈刷成绩？两门车不更好吗，两门车会有更好的成绩，F1为什么没有四门车在跑呢？F1一个车门也没有，道理你肯定懂，没什么好解释的，视频主你在紧张沮丧什么？
好了啦別吹NB啦，這是原型車，他們本來就要賣4門造2門來幹嘛，造2門車會有幾個人買單
他們本來就是要用圈速來推銷售，又不是要來打下一個很難被追的紀錄
原型車的意思就是可能連車架都會和市售車不一樣（碳纖微/鋼鋁合金）
原型車用了倍耐力特製EV熱熔胎還有寬體套件，各種加強車體結構和空力套件，這些東西怎麼可能會放在市售車上
用原型車跑進7分內本來就很強了，博主也予以稱讚，事實上博主都在強調這其實很厲害才造車沒幾年就能進7分是很難的
車本身是沒問題的，確實厲害
但就只是行銷組玩了一個文字遊戲而已
這台原型車根本和市售車是兩回事
現在你們NB吹成這樣，到時候開放銷售被其他人拿來測時啪啪打臉的速度就會更快
小米官方也只會表示我從來沒有說那是市售車版本，要護主也麻煩搞清楚狀況，別給你的主添醜
他整個影片都在稱讚車子，你不懂英文就別來BB人家，實在很丟臉的你知道嗎
4th fastest of all prototype cars is still very admirable result, and great progress over only several years of development. I like there are more choices on the market! Not to mention the for sale version of Ultra is merely 810000 RMB, which is much cheaper than the Taycan Turbo…