Yeah, very suspicious. But I know one who teaches a high-carb(fruit) diet... 80% carbs - Doug Graham's 80/10/10 diet. Its quite extreme (by today's lifestyles), but it's a good baseline. I've been eating a diet that goes half way, and it's been great for 25 years.
A lot of them do it because they can sell the food/snacks/supplements for profit- it’s lucrative and a constant money stream, because hey, you gotta eat.
It’s not that people are carb addicted. They are crap food addicted because it’s so palatable. When you combine the sugar salt, fat, carbs you get an irresistible combo. But what’s nice is if you eat less processed food for long enough, your tastebuds adapt. I actually crave vegetables now haha. Thanks Layne for all your content. You have helped me cut from 33 down to about 10 percent body fat. I am also no longer a Keto zealot. Hahah
It's not just your tastebuds, it's cravings. When I'm on low carb I quite even wanting sugary stuff, indeed the thought of it can be pretty eww. But after holidays and the like, eating that stuff? Then I get cravings for toast, crackers etc.
I can't eat stuff like molten gouda anymore cause I'm used to no fat cheese(german Harzerkaese, lactose and practically fat free) and the regular stuff is just too rich. never really liked junk food anyway though, even as a kid I couldn't eat some ice cream cause it was just too sweet
I followed ideas like low carb for years I'm 35 years old been out of shape since 29 I started eating carbs again and just lowering my calories while working out I was 310 pounds I'm now 250 pounds after roughly 5 months.
I did that , the diet got a lot issues , when u go take a poop u might not come out there alive , feeling powerless , constantly badmood , hard to sleep , craving some food u miss , but imma be fair , if u really wanna cut real quick , i lost +20 pounds in almost 3 month , but the harm is more than the benefit , so i suggest everyone to dont do it , i do it once and probably never will ever ever again
I had the same experience. Did very low carb and did keto. I should also mention that I am a diabetic. My A-1 C at diagnosis was 14! I started carefully re-introducing carbohydrates to my diet and paid close attention to when I was eating them. The changes in my physique were awesome… I finally started losing weight and even better… My A-1 C is now 4.5… and I eat oatmeal every morning post workout, fruit with my lunch and a bit of a carby vegetable (carrots, peas, corn, limas, etc) with dinner.
If you aren't fat adapted, it is harder to go stretches of time without eating, so it's harder to sustain a calorie deficit. Yes calories and calories out, but for a lot of people reducing carbs can make it easier
I did Keto for 7 months. Lost 41 pounds on two a day workouts. I did it because I didn’t think the 5-6 meals a day wouldn’t work anymore at age 61. Recently, I gained weight after gym closed for Covid. I met up with a ladies physique competitor who are carbs with every meal. I’m eating more carbs now than ever before and lost 30 pounds so far while retaining AND gaining muscle. I have CVD but my body fat has drastically dropped off. I was concerned about the whole “too much insulin release with frequent meals but I’m losing body fat so I’m hoping that won’t apply here. You’re videos are great man. Keep it up
I lost 65 pounds of weight in a year on low carb. Still on it and feel great. At the end of the day it’s calories in calories out no matter what yourchoice.
@@Dionysus_Athena I did it to lose the initial weight. Long term it is possible but just like vegans i will miss a lot of micronutrients. I have also built enough muscle mass now where i can maintain my body shape even if i eat in a surplus. I am at 175 from 240, i worked so hard at this so i plan to stay here if i can help it.
It’s mostly because highly palatable processed food is almost never satiating. So you go for more, and end up eating tons of calories and are still hungry
Agreed. His assertion that there is no psychophysical effect akin to addiction from the consumption of certain foods or the yearning for certain foods especially if they are unhealthy and lack* nutrition is patently false.
Personally, I lost over 20lbs (not much in general but I’m only 5’4”) so it makes a big difference! And I ate 50% carbs when I was cutting and I was fine ☺️ I understand everyone is different that’s why nutrition is so individual and suggestions are better than seeing things as black and white. Just my two cents!
Yes, the more I "do my own research", the more I realize that we're all completely different. My two kids are very different in their allergies and tastes. Personally, I've don't tolerate grains well, so low carb seemed ideal for me. I felt fine on keto, and lost the weight I wanted to, but my cholesterol shot up to an alarming extent. I added legumes for the protein and fiber, and did a lot more exercise, and now the lipid numbers are fine again. But beans, uh, have that digestive effect. Now I've dropped them again and am experimenting with just keto and exercise. We'll see. But since I don't tolerate dairy at all, it's hard to see where my calcium is gonna come from.
Lady says: "It takes over your life. You have sugar and food and these treats on your mind all they long…”. That’s pretty much the way I have felt every single time I tried to cut carbs out of my diet. It created o-b-s-e-s-s-i-o-n. I have waaaaay better control and completely stopped binging now that I understand I can manage my weight with a balanced and yes, flexible diet. Anyone serious about managing their weight should absolutely read your book (Fat loss forever). Best read and discovery for me this sh** year.
I mean, keto adaptation takes a while you know. As someone who actually took keto seriously, after 2 weeks on it, your hunger cravings literally cut half or more and this is widely talked everywhere in bodybuilding or other areas. its hard to even reach the calories needed on it. As soon as I take something with more carbs after keto I get very hungry a couple of hours later.
@@ThatFuckinGame Yep, same experience with me. If the whole world went keto I'd have no problem! The problem is it's easy to get pulled or pushed off the wagon, and then the cravings come back. That's what the couple are talking about regarding sugar addiction.
Tons of evidence behind sugar addiction and its dopaminergic and opioid effects. Love your stuff though, I never truly understood fat loss until listening to you. THANKS BROTHER
Go and totally cut carbs out of your diet for a month, then come back and tell me you're not addicted to carbs! What do you think 'keto flu' is? Withdrawal symptoms!
@@justgouds the point is there's no such thing as a carb addiction. Starchy carb sources are bland. Humans hedonify them with ingredients to consume more than could be achieved without doing so hence Oatmeal with them tasty toppings. Otherwise it's literally gruel.
@@justgouds people can't stop eating tasty carb meals. Make oatmeal with water. No way you can't stop eating that. It's like saying i can't stop eating lettuce because i love big macs and there's lettuce in them...
I’m not “addicted” to anything, just like to eat, period. And you’re right that eating has a lot to do with emotional and social factors. I don’t reach for junk foods because I’m addicted to anything, it just makes me feel better when I’m depressed to eat whatever I want.
Layne denying food addiction reminds me of the smoking scientists denying smoking addiction. I don’t think they’re exactly the same … just reminds me of it.
I did lost 13 pounds in 3 weeks on keto, but I had to stop at the end of the 3rd week because I had some weird symptoms, like keto flu on steroids. Headaches, anxiety, wooziness, heart race, skipped heart beats, low energy, fatigue, almost passed out at the gym. Idk how it works for so many people, but for me it didn’t and I tried hard. 3 months later, I feel like I’m still cutting carbs and the wooziness comes back specially on 6-18 Intermittent fasting, but as I increase intake of carbs like natural starches, fruits and vegetables, the wooziness and sensation of dizziness are going away. I’m getting better each day. Amen! I truly wanted to make keto work for me, but I’m glad I’m out of it. People will say, well, if you still have some of the symptoms, maybe it’s something else… maybe, but the symptoms started after 3 weeks on keto. Lab work results were great 2 weeks before starting keto.
You did the right thing, same thing happened to me Was at the ER, Heart palpitations, losing electrolytes, cramps even though I was taking electrolytes I still was losing them. I added carbs back in, and I am back to normal. We really need to do what works for us instead of joining Diet tribes for some psychological comfort, makes no sense.
I fasted and cut carbs and lost a lot of weight but fasting too much ruined my metabolism because when I would re feed I binged and now I'm back up over than when I started. Cutting out whole food groups is not advisable I this day and age.
I discovered this channel like... One hour ago. And it's probably my top 2-3 favorite fitness channel. I just appreciate channels that tell the actual truth.
So glad your out there speaking the truth. I’m a type 1 diabetic and it pisses me off with these claims about insulin and carbs. When I was training individuals I made it a point to try Keto, low carb and high carb. Carnivore is just plain ridiculous so that I wasn’t even going to give a go. With blood work done on Keto cholesterol was bad, test levels were low, sugars ran stable but were always higher then normal because you still produce glucose and I was more insulin resistant because every time I would adjust it was harder to bring the sugars down. Low carb I had no energy and it slowed me down in the gym, with muscle gain and weight loss along with my metabolism. Carb cycling was ok but hard to keep up with. High carb, low fat and body weight in protein gave me energy, more fat burning/storage, better insulin sensitivity, good test levels and a great metabolic boost especially after and during training. But like you said... I guess if I want to grow my channel I have to jump on the band wagon, spout ridiculous crap and say trust me guys. Like you I’m just kidding. Great channel. ✊
I'm no doctor etc, but I can tell you this: when I do a keto I get ripped without counting calories. In addition, I don't get gallbladder attacks, which is contrary to doctors who recommend a low fat diet.
I gained 5 pound in 3 months on a keto diet I lost 20 pound on a high protein diet calorie deficit diet. I battle with inflammation because I keep going back to eating crappy. I hate blaming carbs for my issues when it’s not the cause, when the cause is just eating crappy. 😮
You gained weight on keto because you ate too many calories. That’s the number one reason why people “stall” on keto. They’ve been told calories don’t matter. They do and always will no matter what diet you choose. I choose keto just because of how I feel on it. But I do clean keto. Whole Foods. Dirty keto terrible for you.
@@Shanelame3452exactly lol. The reason Keto works, is because it limits your choices for garbage food. Personally I do high protein, mid fat, low carb. It works best for me. Sometimes I struggle to get above 2K Calories.
I tried keto two years ago and lost a lot of weight but when I really looked at what I was doing- I was eating HALF of my BMR (thanks Thomas DeLauer for that “summer shred” lol 🙄) and as soon as I decided to eat normally again I of course gained back all the lost weight PLUS about 4 more pounds. I’ve been doing macros since last November with a coach and I’ve steadily lost weight and have kept it off. 🤯 I remember telling people “yeah keto works for me!” But what was causing my weight drop was the 700 calories I was eating as my daily intake. It’s so easy to be blinded by these magical diets.
I definitely agree with everything that you have said here, I have found that every diet out there,promises the same results,better sleep,no more joint pain,more energy,better skin and hair,etc.Ive come to realize that cutting out processed food,not over eating and staying as active as your body can tolerate,is key,whole foods are good for you,plain and simple.Thankyou for another great video!😊
I have recently cut out most of the process carbs I used to eat and no longer have sugar cravings. As a matter of fact sugery foods are no longer even appealing to me. So you say there are no scientific studies indicating the carbs are addicting. I call BS on that. I have seen this change with in cravings with not only me but many others too. Also because of such cravings running a caloric deficit on a high carb diet is very difficult. it is very easy on low carb higher fat diet. This couple is right on.
that ankle sprain thing due to carbs is just going too far....as a physical therapist chronic repition of ankle sprain is largley due to the proprioceptive nerve endings in your ankle being damaged the first ankle sprain...and being able to rehab it properly and re-learning the optimal preventive gait pattern. has nothing to do with systemic inflammation
Dr. Layne Norton, I’m a medical graduate hoping to one day help people get healthier on a daily basis at my dream job as an innovative Family Physician and u sir are a FREAKING LEGEND ... I just love u man ... life needs YOU
Nothing to prove this, but I honestly think the weight loss can be summed up as decreased calories combined with increased TEF because people actually start eating high protein when they cut out carbs
I’m a Type 1.5 diabetic. I got off all medications (except thyroid), and lost 80lbs following keto. With that being said, I understand I could have lost the weight using another method as well. The reason I chose that route was because of inflammation and that my blood sugars do not respond well to grains, flours, breads, and pastas.... all the things I used to love so much. Oddly, a bagel sends me into a dangerous zone quite quickly but I might be ok with a small candy bar... which is odd, right? But it was the right choice for me. I have now shifted to a little lower fat regimen and higher carb than “keto”. I also started using Carbon almost two weeks ago and love it. I will have more blood work in April and it will be interesting to see how I have adapted/responded to this change. Love all the things I’m learning from Holly and Layne. 🥰
Ditto! Diagnosed LADA 1.5 years ago at 54! I was first misdiagnosed Type2 so I went keto per Dr. Fung method and now I am back to a regular normal diet. Keto was boring but I thought it was saving my life. Other than Layne I also follow Matt Vande Vegte who also is a Type 1 Diabetic, health coach and fitness guy. He’s the reason I gave up keto and I’m much happier. Posting from husbands account -I’m Kim
Having (well controlled) type 2 diabetes and hearing over and over that keto or carnivore are how to reverse it, it was great to finally hear explained that losing the body fat is the real significant modulator in restoring insulin sensitivity. That was always my guess, but it's funny to finally hear someone rooted in actual science say it very plainly.
Wow, that was great. I listened to these guys a few times! Thanks for the science. I lost 56lb on a high plant, high fat, loads of protein, mainly from seafood and eggs, ketogenic diet with both intermittent and longer fasts. I've kept it off for 3 years. I loved it, didn't have cravings, never got tired, didn't experience a plateau. I'm leaner and stronger at 62 than I was at 45. Anecdotal, yes. But, I'm a farm girl. Living off the garden, fish and eggs is just easy and enjoyable. So all of this depends on what you can enjoy enough to stick with. And what you believe! I've been a Thomas Delauer camp since I hit 196lbs and turned things around. Now I'm performing for hours a in size 6. I've always been energetic so loosing almost 60lbs turned me back into a dynamo. I'm ready for weight training so I'm happy for your science on protein synthesis and muscle building. Ready for a more mixed diet with healthy carbs.
@@Candyapplebone Yeah, it was anecdotally magical how easily I lost weight and how enjoyable it was. It's anecdotally more amazing that for the first time I'm maintaining.... easily and enjoyably. My Fitbit rewards show that I lost 25lb 15 times! And 10lbs 25 times. I anecdotally feel free and unconcerned about gaining weight. However, I'll stop thinking it would work for any other human body but mine...and yours.
@@Candyapplebone What is there to disagree with? He says isocaloric diets where protein is equated show no major differences in benefits between low carb & low fat. The calorie deficit = weight loss = health benefits. If low carb works for an individual, great. If low fat works for another? Great. I feel great, muscular, fit, energetic & satisfied on a higher carb diet. I found keto enervating, a pita & stomach-turning. It is what it is. Find what works, do it, let others find what works for them. 🤷♀️
There’s no carb addiction, why you think a person becomes 500 pounds. It’s not because of being addicted to meat.. I am a prime example of that..Carb addiction is real..
Addiction: “is when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something.” I can equate the similarities to giving up desserts with giving up smoking. Both were very addictive for me.
About 1st part, it's gonna be scientifically proven sooner or later cause 100% of people I know on keto, including myself (when I do keto) lose cravings towards carbs and have reduced apetite. I generally do not like the approach that if something is not proven yet we should dismiss it completely.
I don't think it's entirely fair to dismiss anecdotal evidence simply because of a lack of enough scientific controlled studies. I can personally vouch for a complete change in my hunger and cravings as a result of going low carb/keto. I've also lost 54 pounds in 3 months (though I believe the fasting and exercise is the primary reason for the weight loss). Going low-carb makes the fasting a lot easier though.
Well said! He seems to think that if there are a lack of studies then it can't be so lol! Maybe there is a lack of funding due to the whole keto thing being rather new to the masses.
Thats great. You found what allowed you to stay in calorie deficit for a long time and lost the weight. Not everyone can cut carbs, and Layne is saying that you do not need these extreme modifications to lose weight. You can enjoy all the macronutrients and still lose weight because a calorie deficit is all that matters at then end of the day. You also have to consider sustainability. I know two people (since we are talking anecdotes here...) that had great success on keto and looked like different people when they lost weight, but gained it all back because their lifestyle involved parties with cake, beer, pizza, etc.
So I totally appreciate the videos you put out. And I’ve commented on a few of your comments with the same subject. Processed Carbs like bread and many others for me are what I classify as addictive. Once I start it’s I eat more. What’s worse is once I start it’s ok to eat worse carbs like cookies, cakes, etc. so I think for me clean keto works because I remove this out of the equation even though I know it’s ultimately about the calories. It doesn’t sound you can relate to this and no judgment at all but for me this is just as real as all your science based findings. I think it’s important what you’re saying but I would like to see you leave a little room in your truth telling to allow for this.
I did keto for years and lost the same 10 pounds over and over and never enjoyed eating and would go off rails on a cheat day .. I am so excited to know I can eat carbs again and not feel guilty .. I had gotten where I felt guilty eating an apple
Layne, correct me if I'm wrong but is not sugar consumption associated with release of dopamine from the pleasure center of the brain? Similar to other dopamine releasing behaviors (cocaine for instance), the effect is down regulating, meaning that one has to consume a little more each time to achieve the same level of pleasure, hence the addiction. Protein and fat do not cause this phenomenon.
I’m guilty of saying “you just don’t think about food while on low carb / keto” when I was on Keto and it’s not true - at least for me. Now, I was less hungry, most of the time, but I thought about food all the time and what I was going to eat all the time. The truth is it doesn’t matter what diet your on, if your trying to lose weight you’re going to think about food a lot, way more than if you weren’t. So anyone telling you “you’ll think less about food on this diet” isn’t saying anything valuable because if your trying to lose weight which let’s be honest, if your watching this kind of content you’re most likely trying to lose weight. And that’s why your thinking of food all the time. Which is fine, you’re trying to make a change. The key is finding the right diet or lifestyle that gets you to your ideal weigh SO THAT you spend less time thinking about food. You could also just really love food, but everything in moderation, it shouldn’t be an obsession unless your a chef or a dietician or do something for a living where food is the central component.
I think you have to cut what you overeat, if you overeat fat, like fatty meats,, lots of oil even EVOO, lots of nuts: cut fat. HOWEVER if you overeat carbs, like sugary drinks, lots of bread and flour derived foods, and fruit ( I personally invite you Layne to south america to see how ppl overeat fruit as juice or as their only source of food whole day, like eating 5 big bananas with JAM as breakfast plus a jar of orange juice ) then logic says cut down some carbs. End it here
Keep in mind that humans historically fermented most sugary food so in effect were low carb. Sourdough bread, kefir, cheese, fermented vegetables and fermented fruit (wine, vinegar)
I’ve learned so much more information that’s been easy to understand and follow over the last 5 years than I have in any other textbook or college course in relation to nutrition or training.
From my own experience only, all "diets" have worked. Consistency, discipline and a calorie deficit always work, in regards to fat and carb ratios. I'd say the only benefit of Keto really would the mental acuity - my brain does seem to work better on ketones but you have to take the anaerobic hit. There are definite performance drops on keto that takes a long time to return vs a balanced diet. Depends on your goals.
Any psychologist can probably fill you in on why sugar is addictive. It isnt the sugar, it is the addict. People with certain problems like ADHD tend to regulate their issues with stimulants. Any substance that can give a high is "addictive" to them. Sugar, caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, spicy food, fat, endorphin. Alternative sweeteners without caffeine is a taste without the stimulant which is why it can be used to stop a "sugar addiction", like an alcoholic free beer or wine can help overcome alcoholism.
How miserable do you want to be on your diet? Flexible dieting and tracking macros is what I needed to enjoy my relationship with food. Portion control and you can eat about anything with no guilt trip. This is the benefit of Carbon app. I can see what my stats are for the day and modify foods as needed.
I did carnivore for a while, literally one rib-eye each night. Felt great, never hungry, didn't even think of food. Now back on a ' normal' diet , obsessed with food again , want to eat every 2 hours, constantly craving catbs..anecdotal evidence doesn't make it false.
I have to respectfully disagree. About a year-and-a-half ago I lost a hundred pounds going on the keto lifestyle after years of struggling with sugar addiction. How do I know if sugar addiction will let me tell you... if I have one bite of sugar just one bite I all of a sudden feel like I turned into this crazy person and go through my house digging for any other sugar products to shove it in my face as fast as I can until I feel horriodically physically ill. You mentioned only when sugar was in the presence of fat and I can tell you absolutely that is also incorrect for myself and many of us. If I have licorice which is fat-free I cannot have one or two pieces as soon as I eat one piece I go crazy and want to eat more and more and more and more....never satisfied. But I have learned to feel very physically and mentally Satisfied by eating mainly meat some vegetables ..fats and occasional healthy carbs that dont trigger me personally like sweet potatoes. I'm thrilled that you were one of the few people that have a 100% healthy issue around food and always have and have not suffered some of these extreme variations. I think because of that ideally you don't understand what it's like for the rest of us who have had a debilitating issue with sugar. I have never eatan a bite of broccoli and then gone crazy and wanted to eat a whole Mega a bowl of broccoli..that goes the same with a say butter. Ive put a few pats of butter on my food but never felt like a drug addict shoving sticks of butter in my face at warp speed....but sugar of ANY kind???? Fat free or NOT.....is a huge problem. I can eat stevia with "less" mania...but still some...even fruit. All "sugars"/sweetners trigger this effect in me with table sugar being by far the most horrible.
I agree with you. I have an unhealthy relationship with crisps. I cannot be alone with them lol... I think it depends what made you obese (that’s what I was) in the first place. I ate a mainly carbohydrate and fat diet. So it’s ok for him to give us the science and the studies etc... but have all the studies been done yet? Can he say that every question has been answered in a study? There are still unknowns, unrelated to the basics of calories and macros. If it works and helps certain people then why beat it up?
Well said! You get a lot of fitness freaks with TH-cam channels spouting shit coz they've never struggled with an eating disorder or an addiction! Yet they preach about it and cite studies until the cows come home! I am glad that keto has been effective for you with your sugar addiction! I too have struggled with emotional eating and it was always the cookies, cakes and pizza. Never the carrots! This guy is way too into finding "research studies", or at least mentioning the lack of them, to even think about the individual humanistic element to all of this! I too find that when doing Keto, and/or intermittent fasting my appetite and craving calm down a lot! A good work friend of mine is an amateur championship bodybuilder, and he ALWAYS cuts carbs before a competition. I wonder why that is lol! Is it coz carbs make you gain fat and store water weight I wonder he he!?
@@walkernick86 He just cuts carbs cause he wants to lower his calories. My guess is that hes not eating that much fat either at the end of a cut so he can't go lower on fats while keeping his protein high for muscle retention. So the only thing he can lower is his intake of carbs. And no one ever disputed the fact that water loss will occur when your glycogen stores gets depleted. But losing water is not the same as losing fat. My guess is also that he doesn't eat that much fat to start with.
Thank you for this. Can you please give the citations you mentioned? I am especially interested in the meta analysis. As a scientist I always feel most comfortable reading primary sources. Keep up the good (data driven) work!
I’ve used both low carb and low fat and lost weight on both, but generally feel worse and more tired on low carb, I also tend to lose more muscle but I’m sure sone of that is glycogen loss.
Agree with everything Layne is saying except his dismissal of Carb addiction, I'm not sure carb addiction is the right term be we now know that just about anything that gives you a dopamine kick, from drugs, to likes on your social media, to high and constant amounts of sugar can be addictive. Overstimulation of dopamine in any area can lead to D2 receptors in the brain to downregulate requiring bigger and more consistent hits of dopamine all while increasing DeltaFosB which reinforces the neurological pathways that motivate you to eat sugar. (Addiction and reward center of the brain 101) Genetics play a massive role though, from how many D2 receptors you have to begin with, to the speed at which they downregulate, there is a ton of research on this, It's definitely a thing. I'm not sure it's a reason to quit carbs though, more a reason to eat less concentrated amounts of sugar, but if you're eating 5 chocolate bars and drink 2l of soda per day you have bigger problems.
I thought I liked Layne's channel but this video put me off totally! I agree more with the doctors in the video tbh! Not all people are the same and many overweight people are insulin resistant and would therefore benefit from keto! There is massive amounts of evidence that keto is effective for diabetes reversal and weight loss!
Magnitude my man. Magnitude. Foods aren't drugs. The magnitudes on the reward system aren't comparable. Any reward seeking behaviour increases dopamine. Nobody ever became addicted to water as a result of its manifested dopamine spike. Plain rice plain potatoes plain Oatmeal would induce lower magnitude on the reward system than a Krispy creme donut which is 40% carb. It ain't the carb that amplifies the magnitude on the reward system. Specifically reducing the carb content does by adding fat and other ingredients. Ppl saying carbs are addictive are plain wrong. Either way, donuts aren't drugs either. Nobody sucked a d for a cookie crumb. Comprendé armchair psychiatrist?
@@HeyItsWez you've sucked a d for a granule of sucrose? There's a difference between behaviour preference and addiction. Foods don't induce the magniude of effect as your theory would imply. People love to evade personal accountability for their actions. Attributing mechanistic speculation has been profitable for countless grifters relying on uneducated lay people who are mesmerized by their fairy tales. Pay attention to experts like Layne more than those masquerading as experts to educate yourself and protect yourself against being manipulated by grifters.
No, he can't tell the differerence. Carbs are Carbs, proteins are proteins fat is fat. To him all that matters is calorie equated diets and fat loss is only marker he uses to disclaim low carb, fasting and keto. Because if he really researched the metabolic changes they exert he would be literally fucked with what he preaches! Counting calories and eating according to the macro table is artificial and never's been natural. I loved him saying empirical studies get rid of bias. They are often biased themselves! This guy has nothing to do with anything related to bio- and layne should be switched to lame xd
All carbohydrates break down into sugar. Vegetables are sugar plus indigestible fiber, so those are "better" for satiety and slowing the rush of sugar into your bloodstream. All fatty acids have about the same number of calories, so that doesn't matter to the "Calories In Calories Out" model. It does matter to your health, however...
I’m 65 , WFPB, cross fit / run 10/day and I’m addicted to specific carbs .. I.e : FRESH BREAD … it’s my Achilles heel … I did an RCT .. 4 days ago in Mexico I bought 2 baguettes from the local store … when I woke up 2 days later they were both gone … (I lost 70lb by basically banning bread from the house … obviously I would also load the bread with cheese ….)
Because these couple is Keto people. and Im a walking proof and Im lean and I'm both subs on your channel and thier channel. And Im keto every individual is different I guess ,Im powerful in the gym . Im not hungry Keto change me
I tried a lot of diets, and i discovered keto 8 years ago, never went back. I lost 20 pounds and maintained it ever since. I know this is anecdotal, but it worked best fore me. And in terms of calorie for calorie replacement comparison, its hard for me to comprehend how foods with no insulin response are not going to have a significant effect on weight loss compared to the ones that do.
Just because it`s hard for you to comprehend something, doesn`` make it not true. As Layne said; there are numerous of studies comparing keto and high carb diet while controlling for calories & protein. The results are pretty much the same. I don`t get how that`s difficult to understand.
@@beratbra2407 you are ignoring the last part of my statement. Keto diets have had the most weight loss than any other diet in the short term, long term is a failure because of compliance. this gives credence to my end statement. A diet based on high fat could potentially prime the body to burn fat as fuel, why would a high carb diet burn any fat unless it exhausted all carbohydrates first? why would it when constantly being replenished by carbs? carbs coming with a load of insulin that signals your body to grow. i am not refuting the information, i am asking for an explanation- where as you only provided a low energy insult on my intelligence without any rebuttal
@@ericwrite8419 thats because of water loss in the short term. Using the term "weight loss" means nothing as there a many ways to lose weight. The part where you mention how fat will not be burnt until all carbohydrates are burnt is not biochemically accurate. A calorie deficit will generally always create fat loss even if your diet was 100% carbohydrates (unless for example a thyroid issue was present). I tried a keto diet for a personal anecdotal experiment and I found I put on more body fat and had less energy (after the adrenaline response wore off as cortisol increases on a keto diet and is responsible for converting noradrenaline into adrenaline) and was always hungry. I lift weights and lost muscle because alot of the conversion to glycogen came for a catabolic response of my muscles.
Ok, for starters: 1. Ice-cream isn't so much a carb as it is a FAT. 2. No such thing as addiction to carbs. (edit: as Layne points out). It's like saying you're addicted to food.
3. ahhhhh... that dumb b... person is saying SHE has a problem because she eats JUNK food. But she's calling it "carbs" and "sugar". That exactly what the meat-industry taught her.
Most of the "high carb" foods the low carb zealots demonize are HIGH FAT.... 1 g fat has 9 calories It all goes back to calorie deficit... Low carb logic: "I stopped eating two slices of pepperoni pizza and a coke for lunch, and had a garden salad with chicken breast instead, and lost 30 lbs! Carbs are the enemy!"
When they talk about hunger a couple of hours later, they are talking about low blood sugar, not actual hunger. I thought it was well known that certain high glycemic foods will cause a spike then a big low making you feel the need to eat more. Hunger (ghrelin) s a completely different feeling and mechanism than low blood sugar.
I’ve successfully cut for 2 bikini competitions eating oats, white rice, and bread during my prep. Certain foods were adjusted the closer to my shows but the thing that remained constant was my overall caloric deficit. I do not believe in a one size fits all approach to anything, especially when it comes to diet and training.
low carb for almost 2 years, unfortunately lost protein out of sight... so kinda of lost lean body mas too... But felt some improvements regarding inflamation and pain during menses. Ldl try to low by using moslt olive oil than sour creme... Love animal protein tho so I eat eggs, cheese, meat,,, Test my ketones with breath tester from Biosense... Bottom line... take care of calories, yea lower carbs and ketones somehow reduce appetite and the hunger for treats... Thanks 4 your cool way of sharing ! Love you Layne!!!
Speaking from personal experience grains and potatoes cause my ankle to hurt shortly after eating them, (i have inflammation due to ware and tare) i can eat all the ingredients in the sandwich without the bread and be fine.
Did you cite your responses anywhere Layne? Maybe in the comments? I can't find them. (for the record, I agree with you, I just want to read the articles myself)
If you’ve ever been addicted to coke or crack, you’ll know that sugar addiction is real…….that feeling when you need sugar is as strong as when you need a line…..it’s exactly the same feeling
It’s not sugar people are addicted to but ultra-processed junk food that just happen to contain sugar along with a load of other unhealthy ingredients. If you were truly addicted to just sugar, you would stuff your face with spoonfuls of caster sugar - nobody does that! It’s the processed foods with added sugar, refined carbs, bad fats and synthetic ingredients you’re addicted to!
perhaps there's something more to this like dopamine deficiency studies show that people with adhd are more likely to eat more sweets because of the dopamine response they get from it (not the other way around, i.e., sugar doesn't cause adhd)
KETO is a B.S. - 100% confirmed. I saw my veins and lost body fat on 0,4g/lb fat intake and 1g/lb protein. When on KETO I was notorious hungry and lost muscle fullness.
When I participated in endurance sports carbs were essential and were as much as 70-80% of my diet. I was training 20-25 hrs a week for triathlon and distance biking events. I stopped for a couple of years and was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Eating keto brought my blood sugar down and got me under control. But l could not sustain that and I was very disappointed with my athletic performance. Low carb is where I have been for a while now. What does that look like??? 1. I do not eat anything with added sugar. 2. I stay away from most grains and especially white breads. 3. I drink almost exclusively water and coffee. I do occasionally drink wine, lite beer, or mixed drinks (no juices, think a dirty vodka martini or an old fashioned (I know there is sugar in an old fashioned but not like in a juice containing cocktail and I will only drink 1). I eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, meats, fish, etc. I do not eat sweet desserts except on rare occasions. Do I ever violate these rules - yes. Why, because if I don’t I won’t live by them. If I go out with my family to a nice restaurant, I may eat some Tiramisu and I will feel the sugar high in ways only a diabetic can understand. Ands then, my desire for the dessert is quenched, and my mind/body remembers what too much sugar feels like. Makes it easier to stay low carb. This has absolutely nothing to do with managing my weight. I have found that I can eat as many calories as a powerweight lifter as I did as an endurance athlete. I do weigh more, but I am also a lot more muscular.
Layne, osteoarthritis (wear and tear) is not an inflammatory arthritis. On the other hand, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Psoriatic Arthritis, Septic Arthritis, and Gout will cause inflammation and likely jack up your CRP.
It's lime the notion that sugar makes kids hyper! It's not,it's because when kids eat cake is many times in birthdays and celebrations, so kids are just happy by socializing, and playing
I feel like low carb is probably best suited for people who work 9-5 office jobs and working out a 3-4 times a week. Because your apetite will be low and as long as you use carbs around the workout youll be fine . But if you have a physical job or are working out more low carb would be bad idea imho
What is it with chiropractors all becoming nutrition experts and all being keto proponents?
Yeah, very suspicious. But I know one who teaches a high-carb(fruit) diet... 80% carbs - Doug Graham's 80/10/10 diet. Its quite extreme (by today's lifestyles), but it's a good baseline. I've been eating a diet that goes half way, and it's been great for 25 years.
A lot of them do it because they can sell the food/snacks/supplements for profit- it’s lucrative and a constant money stream, because hey, you gotta eat.
It would seem to be trend humm
Haha so true like "Doctor" Berg 😆
Because they’re the only “doctors” with enough free time to think up this type of bullshit lmao
It’s not that people are carb addicted. They are crap food addicted because it’s so palatable. When you combine the sugar salt, fat, carbs you get an irresistible combo. But what’s nice is if you eat less processed food for long enough, your tastebuds adapt. I actually crave vegetables now haha.
Thanks Layne for all your content. You have helped me cut from 33 down to about 10 percent body fat. I am also no longer a Keto zealot. Hahah
100% agree
It's not just your tastebuds, it's cravings. When I'm on low carb I quite even wanting sugary stuff, indeed the thought of it can be pretty eww. But after holidays and the like, eating that stuff? Then I get cravings for toast, crackers etc.
I can't eat stuff like molten gouda anymore cause I'm used to no fat cheese(german Harzerkaese, lactose and practically fat free) and the regular stuff is just too rich. never really liked junk food anyway though, even as a kid I couldn't eat some ice cream cause it was just too sweet
thanks to my mom I never got used to those foods, even junk I liked as a kid just tastes bad to me now
I followed ideas like low carb for years I'm 35 years old been out of shape since 29 I started eating carbs again and just lowering my calories while working out I was 310 pounds I'm now 250 pounds after roughly 5 months.
Oh hello colleguae
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Well , u better be in good shape. Otherwise , baki is gonna beat ya xD.
I did that , the diet got a lot issues , when u go take a poop u might not come out there alive , feeling powerless , constantly badmood , hard to sleep , craving some food u miss , but imma be fair , if u really wanna cut real quick , i lost +20 pounds in almost 3 month , but the harm is more than the benefit , so i suggest everyone to dont do it , i do it once and probably never will ever ever again
I had the same experience. Did very low carb and did keto. I should also mention that I am a diabetic. My A-1 C at diagnosis was 14!
I started carefully re-introducing carbohydrates to my diet and paid close attention to when I was eating them. The changes in my physique were awesome… I finally started losing weight and even better… My A-1 C is now 4.5… and I eat oatmeal every morning post workout, fruit with my lunch and a bit of a carby vegetable (carrots, peas, corn, limas, etc) with dinner.
If you aren't fat adapted, it is harder to go stretches of time without eating, so it's harder to sustain a calorie deficit. Yes calories and calories out, but for a lot of people reducing carbs can make it easier
I cut my carbs with a razor blade before snorting them up my nose with sour punch straws
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All I know is I never look at an obese person and think “Wow I bet they eat too much oatmeal, bread, and beans, and bananas”
@Alex bb pretty much been living off proats/ bread/ beans/ tuna/ olive oil didn’t know this was a thing though lol
👀 nicely said
I did Keto for 7 months. Lost 41 pounds on two a day workouts. I did it because I didn’t think the 5-6 meals a day wouldn’t work anymore at age 61. Recently, I gained weight after gym closed for Covid. I met up with a ladies physique competitor who are carbs with every meal. I’m eating more carbs now than ever before and lost 30 pounds so far while retaining AND gaining muscle. I have CVD but my body fat has drastically dropped off. I was concerned about the whole “too much insulin release with frequent meals but I’m losing body fat so I’m hoping that won’t apply here. You’re videos are great man. Keep it up
Whats going on now? Do you still have CVD?
@@Sarahizahhsum He died from diabetes.. ;)
I lost 65 pounds of weight in a year on low carb. Still on it and feel great. At the end of the day it’s calories in calories out no matter what yourchoice.
You can lose weight in a surplus also, besides the way you’re doing it is proven to be less likely to keep it off.
@@Dionysus_Athena I did it to lose the initial weight. Long term it is possible but just like vegans i will miss a lot of micronutrients. I have also built enough muscle mass now where i can maintain my body shape even if i eat in a surplus. I am at 175 from 240, i worked so hard at this so i plan to stay here if i can help it.
@@lombardo141 I hope it works for you. It’s a hard habit to break and maintain. You can do it.
@@Dionysus_Athenayou cannot lose weight in a calorie surplus. That goes against everything
Yea you very well can when you're building ketones and burning fat for energy.. ive done it, and seen countless other people do it. @shanecamera4402
I’ve experienced addict like behaviours with highly palatable foods. Yes they say carbs but really they are referring to shit food.
It’s mostly because highly palatable processed food is almost never satiating. So you go for more, and end up eating tons of calories and are still hungry
Exactly
Agreed. His assertion that there is no psychophysical effect akin to addiction from the consumption of certain foods or the yearning for certain foods especially if they are unhealthy and lack* nutrition is patently false.
Personally, I lost over 20lbs (not much in general but I’m only 5’4”) so it makes a big difference! And I ate 50% carbs when I was cutting and I was fine ☺️ I understand everyone is different that’s why nutrition is so individual and suggestions are better than seeing things as black and white. Just my two cents!
Congrats
Yes, the more I "do my own research", the more I realize that we're all completely different. My two kids are very different in their allergies and tastes.
Personally, I've don't tolerate grains well, so low carb seemed ideal for me. I felt fine on keto, and lost the weight I wanted to, but my cholesterol shot up to an alarming extent. I added legumes for the protein and fiber, and did a lot more exercise, and now the lipid numbers are fine again. But beans, uh, have that digestive effect. Now I've dropped them again and am experimenting with just keto and exercise. We'll see. But since I don't tolerate dairy at all, it's hard to see where my calcium is gonna come from.
How come I am only seeing this channel now? I am tired by being fear mongered by the so called health experts.Thanks Layne for research based videos
Lady says: "It takes over your life. You have sugar and food and these treats on your mind all they long…”. That’s pretty much the way I have felt every single time I tried to cut carbs out of my diet. It created o-b-s-e-s-s-i-o-n. I have waaaaay better control and completely stopped binging now that I understand I can manage my weight with a balanced and yes, flexible diet. Anyone serious about managing their weight should absolutely read your book (Fat loss forever). Best read and discovery for me this sh** year.
I mean, keto adaptation takes a while you know. As someone who actually took keto seriously, after 2 weeks on it, your hunger cravings literally cut half or more and this is widely talked everywhere in bodybuilding or other areas. its hard to even reach the calories needed on it.
As soon as I take something with more carbs after keto I get very hungry a couple of hours later.
@@ThatFuckinGame Yep, same experience with me. If the whole world went keto I'd have no problem! The problem is it's easy to get pulled or pushed off the wagon, and then the cravings come back. That's what the couple are talking about regarding sugar addiction.
The top reason I want to cut my carbs is so that I don't choke on my food. Also, it's way more polite to use a fork and a knife.
Do you chew your foodXD haha
@@yoijoe13 Well, the food is so addicting that I sometimes inhale it. Oops.
Tons of evidence behind sugar addiction and its dopaminergic and opioid effects. Love your stuff though, I never truly understood fat loss until listening to you. THANKS BROTHER
Carb addiction: Hay man you got them carbs?Hahahaha
Dime bag of str8 Dextrose on the DL
Currently on carb skin patches to ween me off brah
Go and totally cut carbs out of your diet for a month, then come back and tell me you're not addicted to carbs! What do you think 'keto flu' is? Withdrawal symptoms!
@@walkernick86 yeah cut a fuel source from your body and see how it reacts that’s TOTALLY addiction and not a nutritional dependcy... goofy
Jus headed to the carbadone clinic. Wat u up to
What the fitness is my fav 🥳🥳🥳
Me too. With his little facial expressions
@@cynthianm1743 the best LOL
Ikr!
3:08 - I actually legit can't stop eating oatmeal lolol - with some hazelnut and chocolate flavouring, sooo goooood
I’m the same way, I love oatmeal
@@jfritz6491 Same. I just add salt while cooking then top it with grape nuts, fruit, and plain yogurt. It's great
Right he jokes but it's true people can't stop eating carbs and sugar. And oatmeal usually goes hand and hand with brown sugar or some sweetener.
@@justgouds the point is there's no such thing as a carb addiction. Starchy carb sources are bland. Humans hedonify them with ingredients to consume more than could be achieved without doing so hence Oatmeal with them tasty toppings. Otherwise it's literally gruel.
@@justgouds people can't stop eating tasty carb meals. Make oatmeal with water. No way you can't stop eating that. It's like saying i can't stop eating lettuce because i love big macs and there's lettuce in them...
I’m not “addicted” to anything, just like to eat, period. And you’re right that eating has a lot to do with emotional and social factors. I don’t reach for junk foods because I’m addicted to anything, it just makes me feel better when I’m depressed to eat whatever I want.
Just found your channel and it’s a breath of fresh air from all the BS! This is coming from a registered dietician :)
Layne denying food addiction reminds me of the smoking scientists denying smoking addiction. I don’t think they’re exactly the same … just reminds me of it.
Food addiction? What's next? Air and water addiction? People man... People
I did lost 13 pounds in 3 weeks on keto, but I had to stop at the end of the 3rd week because I had some weird symptoms, like keto flu on steroids. Headaches, anxiety, wooziness, heart race, skipped heart beats, low energy, fatigue, almost passed out at the gym. Idk how it works for so many people, but for me it didn’t and I tried hard. 3 months later, I feel like I’m still cutting carbs and the wooziness comes back specially on 6-18 Intermittent fasting, but as I increase intake of carbs like natural starches, fruits and vegetables, the wooziness and sensation of dizziness are going away. I’m getting better each day. Amen! I truly wanted to make keto work for me, but I’m glad I’m out of it. People will say, well, if you still have some of the symptoms, maybe it’s something else… maybe, but the symptoms started after 3 weeks on keto. Lab work results were great 2 weeks before starting keto.
You did the right thing, same thing happened to me
Was at the ER, Heart palpitations, losing electrolytes, cramps even though I was taking electrolytes I still was losing them.
I added carbs back in, and I am back to normal.
We really need to do what works for us instead of joining Diet tribes for some psychological comfort, makes no sense.
I fasted and cut carbs and lost a lot of weight but fasting too much ruined my metabolism because when I would re feed I binged and now I'm back up over than when I started.
Cutting out whole food groups is not advisable I this day and age.
These people are a lot younger than me. I have watched this channel. I think I'm doing better on a balanced diet and weight lifting I'm 58. 😎
Luv you guys channel too 😎
From the looks of your avatar, whatever you're doing is working, keep it up!
Have you ever had a serious weight problem that you have solved through diet?
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That's awesome! But a healthy Ketogenic Diet is much healthier than a high carbohydrate diet or a balanced diet.
I discovered this channel like... One hour ago. And it's probably my top 2-3 favorite fitness channel. I just appreciate channels that tell the actual truth.
truth, most of the time, is just what you choose to belive.
@@ArthurKite That's not how the truth works.
@@ArthurKite lmao wat
So glad your out there speaking the truth. I’m a type 1 diabetic and it pisses me off with these claims about insulin and carbs. When I was training individuals I made it a point to try Keto, low carb and high carb. Carnivore is just plain ridiculous so that I wasn’t even going to give a go. With blood work done on Keto cholesterol was bad, test levels were low, sugars ran stable but were always higher then normal because you still produce glucose and I was more insulin resistant because every time I would adjust it was harder to bring the sugars down. Low carb I had no energy and it slowed me down in the gym, with muscle gain and weight loss along with my metabolism. Carb cycling was ok but hard to keep up with. High carb, low fat and body weight in protein gave me energy, more fat burning/storage, better insulin sensitivity, good test levels and a great metabolic boost especially after and during training. But like you said... I guess if I want to grow my channel I have to jump on the band wagon, spout ridiculous crap and say trust me guys. Like you I’m just kidding. Great channel. ✊
I'm no doctor etc, but I can tell you this: when I do a keto I get ripped without counting calories. In addition, I don't get gallbladder attacks, which is contrary to doctors who recommend a low fat diet.
Well said dude! :-)
watching chiropractors talk about metabolic processes = PAINFUL
I gained 5 pound in 3 months on a keto diet I lost 20 pound on a high protein diet calorie deficit diet. I battle with inflammation because I keep going back to eating crappy. I hate blaming carbs for my issues when it’s not the cause, when the cause is just eating crappy. 😮
You gained weight on keto because you ate too many calories. That’s the number one reason why people “stall” on keto. They’ve been told calories don’t matter. They do and always will no matter what diet you choose. I choose keto just because of how I feel on it. But I do clean keto. Whole Foods. Dirty keto terrible for you.
@@Shanelame3452exactly lol. The reason Keto works, is because it limits your choices for garbage food. Personally I do high protein, mid fat, low carb. It works best for me. Sometimes I struggle to get above 2K Calories.
I tried keto two years ago and lost a lot of weight but when I really looked at what I was doing- I was eating HALF of my BMR (thanks Thomas DeLauer for that “summer shred” lol 🙄) and as soon as I decided to eat normally again I of course gained back all the lost weight PLUS about 4 more pounds. I’ve been doing macros since last November with a coach and I’ve steadily lost weight and have kept it off. 🤯 I remember telling people “yeah keto works for me!” But what was causing my weight drop was the 700 calories I was eating as my daily intake. It’s so easy to be blinded by these magical diets.
I definitely agree with everything that you have said here, I have found that every diet out there,promises the same results,better sleep,no more joint pain,more energy,better skin and hair,etc.Ive come to realize that cutting out processed food,not over eating and staying as active as your body can tolerate,is key,whole foods are good for you,plain and simple.Thankyou for another great video!😊
This channel is blowing up getting the TH-cam algorithm blessing. As a new subscriber, now I see why youtube recommends it.
I have recently cut out most of the process carbs I used to eat and no longer have sugar cravings. As a matter of fact sugery foods are no longer even appealing to me. So you say there are no scientific studies indicating the carbs are addicting. I call BS on that. I have seen this change with in cravings with not only me but many others too. Also because of such cravings running a caloric deficit on a high carb diet is very difficult. it is very easy on low carb higher fat diet. This couple is right on.
that ankle sprain thing due to carbs is just going too far....as a physical therapist chronic repition of ankle sprain is largley due to the proprioceptive nerve endings in your ankle being damaged the first ankle sprain...and being able to rehab it properly and re-learning the optimal preventive gait pattern.
has nothing to do with systemic inflammation
Dr. Layne Norton, I’m a medical graduate hoping to one day help people get healthier on a daily basis at my dream job as an innovative Family Physician and u sir are a FREAKING LEGEND ... I just love u man ... life needs YOU
Nothing to prove this, but I honestly think the weight loss can be summed up as decreased calories combined with increased TEF because people actually start eating high protein when they cut out carbs
I’m a Type 1.5 diabetic. I got off all medications (except thyroid), and lost 80lbs following keto. With that being said, I understand I could have lost the weight using another method as well. The reason I chose that route was because of inflammation and that my blood sugars do not respond well to grains, flours, breads, and pastas.... all the things I used to love so much. Oddly, a bagel sends me into a dangerous zone quite quickly but I might be ok with a small candy bar... which is odd, right? But it was the right choice for me.
I have now shifted to a little lower fat regimen and higher carb than “keto”. I also started using Carbon almost two weeks ago and love it. I will have more blood work in April and it will be interesting to see how I have adapted/responded to this change.
Love all the things I’m learning from Holly and Layne. 🥰
Ditto! Diagnosed LADA 1.5 years ago at 54! I was first misdiagnosed Type2 so I went keto per Dr. Fung method and now I am back to a regular normal diet. Keto was boring but I thought it was saving my life. Other than Layne I also follow Matt Vande Vegte who also is a Type 1 Diabetic, health coach and fitness guy. He’s the reason I gave up keto and I’m much happier.
Posting from husbands account -I’m Kim
Having (well controlled) type 2 diabetes and hearing over and over that keto or carnivore are how to reverse it, it was great to finally hear explained that losing the body fat is the real significant modulator in restoring insulin sensitivity. That was always my guess, but it's funny to finally hear someone rooted in actual science say it very plainly.
I honestly prefer to eat less fat and more carbs when cutting, with a caloric deficit of course.
Low carb is fine for me, i don't want mess my hormone if i cut the fat
Wow, that was great. I listened to these guys a few times! Thanks for the science.
I lost 56lb on a high plant, high fat, loads of protein, mainly from seafood and eggs, ketogenic diet with both intermittent and longer fasts. I've kept it off for 3 years.
I loved it, didn't have cravings, never got tired, didn't experience a plateau. I'm leaner and stronger at 62 than I was at 45. Anecdotal, yes. But, I'm a farm girl. Living off the garden, fish and eggs is just easy and enjoyable.
So all of this depends on what you can enjoy enough to stick with. And what you believe! I've been a Thomas Delauer camp since I hit 196lbs and turned things around. Now I'm performing for hours a in size 6. I've always been energetic so loosing almost 60lbs turned me back into a dynamo.
I'm ready for weight training so I'm happy for your science on protein synthesis and muscle building. Ready for a more mixed diet with healthy carbs.
I’m anecdotally experiencing the same thing. This is the 1st time I’ve disagreed with @biolayne
@@Candyapplebone Yeah, it was anecdotally magical how easily I lost weight and how enjoyable it was. It's anecdotally more amazing that for the first time I'm maintaining.... easily and enjoyably. My Fitbit rewards show that I lost 25lb 15 times! And 10lbs 25 times. I anecdotally feel free and unconcerned about gaining weight. However, I'll stop thinking it would work for any other human body but mine...and yours.
@@Candyapplebone you disagree with science? Ok
@@Candyapplebone What is there to disagree with? He says isocaloric diets where protein is equated show no major differences in benefits between low carb & low fat. The calorie deficit = weight loss = health benefits. If low carb works for an individual, great. If low fat works for another? Great.
I feel great, muscular, fit, energetic & satisfied on a higher carb diet. I found keto enervating, a pita & stomach-turning. It is what it is. Find what works, do it, let others find what works for them. 🤷♀️
There’s no carb addiction, why you think a person becomes 500 pounds. It’s not because of being addicted to meat.. I am a prime example of that..Carb addiction is real..
Addiction: “is when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something.” I can equate the similarities to giving up desserts with giving up smoking. Both were very addictive for me.
Ultimate carb low fat and protein diet will make you lean
This one agree with chiros. Sugar addiction and thinking about sweets fully describe my behavior.
About 1st part, it's gonna be scientifically proven sooner or later cause 100% of people I know on keto, including myself (when I do keto) lose cravings towards carbs and have reduced apetite. I generally do not like the approach that if something is not proven yet we should dismiss it completely.
I don't think it's entirely fair to dismiss anecdotal evidence simply because of a lack of enough scientific controlled studies. I can personally vouch for a complete change in my hunger and cravings as a result of going low carb/keto. I've also lost 54 pounds in 3 months (though I believe the fasting and exercise is the primary reason for the weight loss). Going low-carb makes the fasting a lot easier though.
Well said! He seems to think that if there are a lack of studies then it can't be so lol! Maybe there is a lack of funding due to the whole keto thing being rather new to the masses.
Thats great. You found what allowed you to stay in calorie deficit for a long time and lost the weight.
Not everyone can cut carbs, and Layne is saying that you do not need these extreme modifications to lose weight.
You can enjoy all the macronutrients and still lose weight because a calorie deficit is all that matters at then end of the day.
You also have to consider sustainability. I know two people (since we are talking anecdotes here...) that had great success on keto and looked like different people when they lost weight, but gained it all back because their lifestyle involved parties with cake, beer, pizza, etc.
So he lost weaght after he started doing stuff like exercise gasp
Is that how it works? Who knew.
And calorie restriction. Clutch the pearls
So I totally appreciate the videos you put out. And I’ve commented on a few of your comments with the same subject. Processed Carbs like bread and many others for me are what I classify as addictive. Once I start it’s I eat more. What’s worse is once I start it’s ok to eat worse carbs like cookies, cakes, etc. so I think for me clean keto works because I remove this out of the equation even though I know it’s ultimately about the calories. It doesn’t sound you can relate to this and no judgment at all but for me this is just as real as all your science based findings. I think it’s important what you’re saying but I would like to see you leave a little room in your truth telling to allow for this.
Down 130 lbs doing low carb I'm 62 kept it off for 5 years now work out 3-5 days a week cardio and weights feel great, got to do what works
Never dealt with carb addiction, but biolayne addictions been hitting pretty hard...
Yes- could you please do a video on food dependence? Love these vids!!
I did keto for years and lost the same 10 pounds over and over and never enjoyed eating and would go off rails on a cheat day .. I am so excited to know I can eat carbs again and not feel guilty .. I had gotten where I felt guilty eating an apple
Layne, correct me if I'm wrong but is not sugar consumption associated with release of dopamine from the pleasure center of the brain? Similar to other dopamine releasing behaviors (cocaine for instance), the effect is down regulating, meaning that one has to consume a little more each time to achieve the same level of pleasure, hence the addiction. Protein and fat do not cause this phenomenon.
I’m guilty of saying “you just don’t think about food while on low carb / keto” when I was on Keto and it’s not true - at least for me. Now, I was less hungry, most of the time, but I thought about food all the time and what I was going to eat all the time. The truth is it doesn’t matter what diet your on, if your trying to lose weight you’re going to think about food a lot, way more than if you weren’t.
So anyone telling you “you’ll think less about food on this diet” isn’t saying anything valuable because if your trying to lose weight which let’s be honest, if your watching this kind of content you’re most likely trying to lose weight. And that’s why your thinking of food all the time. Which is fine, you’re trying to make a change. The key is finding the right diet or lifestyle that gets you to your ideal weigh SO THAT you spend less time thinking about food.
You could also just really love food, but everything in moderation, it shouldn’t be an obsession unless your a chef or a dietician or do something for a living where food is the central component.
I think you have to cut what you overeat, if you overeat fat, like fatty meats,, lots of oil even EVOO, lots of nuts: cut fat. HOWEVER if you overeat carbs, like sugary drinks, lots of bread and flour derived foods, and fruit ( I personally invite you Layne to south america to see how ppl overeat fruit as juice or as their only source of food whole day, like eating 5 big bananas with JAM as breakfast plus a jar of orange juice ) then logic says cut down some carbs. End it here
Layne could you do an educational video on Leptin and the whole myths and facts surrounding it ?
Keep in mind that humans historically fermented most sugary food so in effect were low carb. Sourdough bread, kefir, cheese, fermented vegetables and fermented fruit (wine, vinegar)
I’ve learned so much more information that’s been easy to understand and follow over the last 5 years than I have in any other textbook or college course in relation to nutrition or training.
Its probably sad but What The Fitness is one of the main reasons I look forward to Fridays now 😂
Me too lol
Seriously informative. This is some of the top most information I’ve listened to in a long time 🤘
1:08 Layne did the cross sign in the hope that it won’t be so bad 🤣🤣
From my own experience only, all "diets" have worked. Consistency, discipline and a calorie deficit always work, in regards to fat and carb ratios.
I'd say the only benefit of Keto really would the mental acuity - my brain does seem to work better on ketones but you have to take the anaerobic hit. There are definite performance drops on keto that takes a long time to return vs a balanced diet.
Depends on your goals.
The situation is hopeless when I'm on my period. I can't cut out sugar or carbs
Any psychologist can probably fill you in on why sugar is addictive. It isnt the sugar, it is the addict. People with certain problems like ADHD tend to regulate their issues with stimulants. Any substance that can give a high is "addictive" to them. Sugar, caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, spicy food, fat, endorphin. Alternative sweeteners without caffeine is a taste without the stimulant which is why it can be used to stop a "sugar addiction", like an alcoholic free beer or wine can help overcome alcoholism.
Biolayne speaks the truth. Dominating TH-cam with realistic knowledge.
How miserable do you want to be on your diet? Flexible dieting and tracking macros is what I needed to enjoy my relationship with food. Portion control and you can eat about anything with no guilt trip. This is the benefit of Carbon app. I can see what my stats are for the day and modify foods as needed.
I'm a Dr and I'm going to talk with certainty to you about carbs... (PHD in Paleontology)
Sugar isn't addictive?
Believe me... it is!
This guy is talking bollocks!
I did carnivore for a while, literally one rib-eye each night. Felt great, never hungry, didn't even think of food. Now back on a ' normal' diet , obsessed with food again , want to eat every 2 hours, constantly craving catbs..anecdotal evidence doesn't make it false.
I'm on the bubba Gump shrimp diet
shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes
I've lost and gained 14 pounds at the same time
I have to respectfully disagree. About a year-and-a-half ago I lost a hundred pounds going on the keto lifestyle after years of struggling with sugar addiction. How do I know if sugar addiction will let me tell you... if I have one bite of sugar just one bite I all of a sudden feel like I turned into this crazy person and go through my house digging for any other sugar products to shove it in my face as fast as I can until I feel horriodically physically ill.
You mentioned only when sugar was in the presence of fat and I can tell you absolutely that is also incorrect for myself and many of us.
If I have licorice which is fat-free I cannot have one or two pieces as soon as I eat one piece I go crazy and want to eat more and more and more and more....never satisfied. But I have learned to feel very physically and mentally Satisfied by eating mainly meat some vegetables ..fats and occasional healthy carbs that dont trigger me personally like sweet potatoes.
I'm thrilled that you were one of the few people that have a 100% healthy issue around food and always have and have not suffered some of these extreme variations. I think because of that ideally you don't understand what it's like for the rest of us who have had a debilitating issue with sugar.
I have never eatan a bite of broccoli and then gone crazy and wanted to eat a whole Mega a bowl of broccoli..that goes the same with a say butter. Ive put a few pats of butter on my food but never felt like a drug addict shoving sticks of butter in my face at warp speed....but sugar of ANY kind???? Fat free or NOT.....is a huge problem. I can eat stevia with "less" mania...but still some...even fruit. All "sugars"/sweetners trigger this effect in me with table sugar being by far the most horrible.
I agree with you. I have an unhealthy relationship with crisps. I cannot be alone with them lol... I think it depends what made you obese (that’s what I was) in the first place. I ate a mainly carbohydrate and fat diet. So it’s ok for him to give us the science and the studies etc... but have all the studies been done yet? Can he say that every question has been answered in a study? There are still unknowns, unrelated to the basics of calories and macros. If it works and helps certain people then why beat it up?
@@snapsforgeisha absolutely...."theory" is alot different than "practical" life. I love chips wicked too!!
Well said! You get a lot of fitness freaks with TH-cam channels spouting shit coz they've never struggled with an eating disorder or an addiction! Yet they preach about it and cite studies until the cows come home!
I am glad that keto has been effective for you with your sugar addiction!
I too have struggled with emotional eating and it was always the cookies, cakes and pizza. Never the carrots!
This guy is way too into finding "research studies", or at least mentioning the lack of them, to even think about the individual humanistic element to all of this!
I too find that when doing Keto, and/or intermittent fasting my appetite and craving calm down a lot!
A good work friend of mine is an amateur championship bodybuilder, and he ALWAYS cuts carbs before a competition. I wonder why that is lol! Is it coz carbs make you gain fat and store water weight I wonder he he!?
@@walkernick86 He just cuts carbs cause he wants to lower his calories. My guess is that hes not eating that much fat either at the end of a cut so he can't go lower on fats while keeping his protein high for muscle retention. So the only thing he can lower is his intake of carbs. And no one ever disputed the fact that water loss will occur when your glycogen stores gets depleted. But losing water is not the same as losing fat. My guess is also that he doesn't eat that much fat to start with.
Layne is the Nutrition King!!!!!
No he's not lol
Thank you for this. Can you please give the citations you mentioned? I am especially interested in the meta analysis. As a scientist I always feel most comfortable reading primary sources.
Keep up the good (data driven) work!
Yeah, I want to know about the 2% figure, and who funded that study?
So grateful i found the channel getting answers i have been searching for
I’ve used both low carb and low fat and lost weight on both, but generally feel worse and more tired on low carb, I also tend to lose more muscle but I’m sure sone of that is glycogen loss.
Agree with everything Layne is saying except his dismissal of Carb addiction, I'm not sure carb addiction is the right term be we now know that just about anything that gives you a dopamine kick, from drugs, to likes on your social media, to high and constant amounts of sugar can be addictive.
Overstimulation of dopamine in any area can lead to D2 receptors in the brain to downregulate requiring bigger and more consistent hits of dopamine all while increasing DeltaFosB which reinforces the neurological pathways that motivate you to eat sugar. (Addiction and reward center of the brain 101)
Genetics play a massive role though, from how many D2 receptors you have to begin with, to the speed at which they downregulate, there is a ton of research on this, It's definitely a thing.
I'm not sure it's a reason to quit carbs though, more a reason to eat less concentrated amounts of sugar, but if you're eating 5 chocolate bars and drink 2l of soda per day you have bigger problems.
I thought I liked Layne's channel but this video put me off totally! I agree more with the doctors in the video tbh!
Not all people are the same and many overweight people are insulin resistant and would therefore benefit from keto!
There is massive amounts of evidence that keto is effective for diabetes reversal and weight loss!
Sugar is EXTREMELY addictive! I can't believe this guy would not understand that. He seems smart...
Magnitude my man. Magnitude. Foods aren't drugs. The magnitudes on the reward system aren't comparable. Any reward seeking behaviour increases dopamine. Nobody ever became addicted to water as a result of its manifested dopamine spike. Plain rice plain potatoes plain Oatmeal would induce lower magnitude on the reward system than a Krispy creme donut which is 40% carb. It ain't the carb that amplifies the magnitude on the reward system. Specifically reducing the carb content does by adding fat and other ingredients. Ppl saying carbs are addictive are plain wrong. Either way, donuts aren't drugs either. Nobody sucked a d for a cookie crumb. Comprendé armchair psychiatrist?
@@vicvin64 Yes thank you for solidifying the the argument that sugar can be addictive ;)
@@HeyItsWez you've sucked a d for
a granule of sucrose? There's a difference between behaviour preference and addiction. Foods don't induce the magniude of effect as your theory would imply. People love to evade personal accountability for their actions. Attributing mechanistic speculation has been profitable for countless grifters relying on uneducated lay people who are mesmerized by their fairy tales. Pay attention to experts like Layne more than those masquerading as experts to educate yourself and protect yourself against being manipulated by grifters.
When you say "fat" what do you mean? Surely the type of fat matters right?
And when you "carbohydrates" same goes right?
No, he can't tell the differerence. Carbs are Carbs, proteins are proteins fat is fat. To him all that matters is calorie equated diets and fat loss is only marker he uses to disclaim low carb, fasting and keto. Because if he really researched the metabolic changes they exert he would be literally fucked with what he preaches! Counting calories and eating according to the macro table is artificial and never's been natural. I loved him saying empirical studies get rid of bias. They are often biased themselves!
This guy has nothing to do with anything related to bio- and layne should be switched to lame xd
All carbohydrates break down into sugar. Vegetables are sugar plus indigestible fiber, so those are "better" for satiety and slowing the rush of sugar into your bloodstream. All fatty acids have about the same number of calories, so that doesn't matter to the "Calories In Calories Out" model. It does matter to your health, however...
@@fastedworld well said
I’m 65 , WFPB, cross fit / run 10/day and I’m addicted to specific carbs .. I.e : FRESH BREAD … it’s my Achilles heel … I did an RCT .. 4 days ago in Mexico I bought 2 baguettes from the local store … when I woke up 2 days later they were both gone … (I lost 70lb by basically banning bread from the house … obviously I would also load the bread with cheese ….)
Because these couple is Keto people. and Im a walking proof and Im lean and I'm both subs on your channel and thier channel. And Im keto every individual is different I guess ,Im powerful in the gym . Im not hungry Keto change me
I tried a lot of diets, and i discovered keto 8 years ago, never went back. I lost 20 pounds and maintained it ever since. I know this is anecdotal, but it worked best fore me. And in terms of calorie for calorie replacement comparison, its hard for me to comprehend how foods with no insulin response are not going to have a significant effect on weight loss compared to the ones that do.
Just because it`s hard for you to comprehend something, doesn`` make it not true. As Layne said; there are numerous of studies comparing keto and high carb diet while controlling for calories & protein. The results are pretty much the same.
I don`t get how that`s difficult to understand.
@@beratbra2407 you are ignoring the last part of my statement. Keto diets have had the most weight loss than any other diet in the short term, long term is a failure because of compliance. this gives credence to my end statement. A diet based on high fat could potentially prime the body to burn fat as fuel, why would a high carb diet burn any fat unless it exhausted all carbohydrates first? why would it when constantly being replenished by carbs? carbs coming with a load of insulin that signals your body to grow. i am not refuting the information, i am asking for an explanation- where as you only provided a low energy insult on my intelligence without any rebuttal
@@ericwrite8419 : Did you watch the whole video?
@@beratbra2407 yes i did, if you have anything to contribute now is the time to do so
@@ericwrite8419 thats because of water loss in the short term. Using the term "weight loss" means nothing as there a many ways to lose weight.
The part where you mention how fat will not be burnt until all carbohydrates are burnt is not biochemically accurate. A calorie deficit will generally always create fat loss even if your diet was 100% carbohydrates (unless for example a thyroid issue was present).
I tried a keto diet for a personal anecdotal experiment and I found I put on more body fat and had less energy (after the adrenaline response wore off as cortisol increases on a keto diet and is responsible for converting noradrenaline into adrenaline) and was always hungry. I lift weights and lost muscle because alot of the conversion to glycogen came for a catabolic response of my muscles.
Ok, for starters:
1. Ice-cream isn't so much a carb as it is a FAT.
2. No such thing as addiction to carbs. (edit: as Layne points out). It's like saying you're addicted to food.
3. ahhhhh... that dumb b... person is saying SHE has a problem because she eats JUNK food. But she's calling it "carbs" and "sugar". That exactly what the meat-industry taught her.
food addiction is a real thing though
Most of the "high carb" foods the low carb zealots demonize are HIGH FAT....
1 g fat has 9 calories
It all goes back to calorie deficit...
Low carb logic:
"I stopped eating two slices of pepperoni pizza and a coke for lunch, and had a garden salad with chicken breast instead, and lost 30 lbs! Carbs are the enemy!"
You should talk to Doctor Robert Cywes and get an explanation about ketogenic diets and dealing with carb addiction he is very informative.
When I eat carbs I do get more hungry which causes me to feel more hungry and overeat. Low carb does give me more satiety
When they talk about hunger a couple of hours later, they are talking about low blood sugar, not actual hunger. I thought it was well known that certain high glycemic foods will cause a spike then a big low making you feel the need to eat more. Hunger (ghrelin) s a completely different feeling and mechanism than low blood sugar.
I’ve successfully cut for 2 bikini competitions eating oats, white rice, and bread during my prep. Certain foods were adjusted the closer to my shows but the thing that remained constant was my overall caloric deficit.
I do not believe in a one size fits all approach to anything, especially when it comes to diet and training.
low carb for almost 2 years, unfortunately lost protein out of sight... so kinda of lost lean body mas too... But felt some improvements regarding inflamation and pain during menses. Ldl try to low by using moslt olive oil than sour creme... Love animal protein tho so I eat eggs, cheese, meat,,, Test my ketones with breath tester from Biosense... Bottom line... take care of calories, yea lower carbs and ketones somehow reduce appetite and the hunger for treats... Thanks 4 your cool way of sharing ! Love you Layne!!!
Always great content, Layne!
"I'm not gonna make that channel, f*** that channel." 😂 always a fun day watching Layne. Super educational and hilarious.
Speaking from personal experience grains and potatoes cause my ankle to hurt shortly after eating them, (i have inflammation due to ware and tare) i can eat all the ingredients in the sandwich without the bread and be fine.
Did you cite your responses anywhere Layne? Maybe in the comments? I can't find them. (for the record, I agree with you, I just want to read the articles myself)
The oatmeal comment was good lol
Obsession and and addiction and dependence are all different. I like this video and I’m glad I found this channel.
If you’ve ever been addicted to coke or crack, you’ll know that sugar addiction is real…….that feeling when you need sugar is as strong as when you need a line…..it’s exactly the same feeling
Yes so don't eat sugar, but eat carbs like rice and oats. You need the energy when you work out a lot.
@@A_D624if you're not fat adapted that is.
It’s not sugar people are addicted to but ultra-processed junk food that just happen to contain sugar along with a load of other unhealthy ingredients. If you were truly addicted to just sugar, you would stuff your face with spoonfuls of caster sugar - nobody does that! It’s the processed foods with added sugar, refined carbs, bad fats and synthetic ingredients you’re addicted to!
Would you like just a plain spoon of sugar? A big bowl of pure, white sugar? No.
perhaps there's something more to this like dopamine deficiency
studies show that people with adhd are more likely to eat more sweets because of the dopamine response they get from it (not the other way around, i.e., sugar doesn't cause adhd)
Ever since I started watching layne I have noticed how many people are so dumb 😭😂
KETO is a B.S. - 100% confirmed. I saw my veins and lost body fat on 0,4g/lb fat intake and 1g/lb protein. When on KETO I was notorious hungry and lost muscle fullness.
When I participated in endurance sports carbs were essential and were as much as 70-80% of my diet. I was training 20-25 hrs a week for triathlon and distance biking events. I stopped for a couple of years and was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Eating keto brought my blood sugar down and got me under control. But l could not sustain that and I was very disappointed with my athletic performance. Low carb is where I have been for a while now. What does that look like??? 1. I do not eat anything with added sugar. 2. I stay away from most grains and especially white breads. 3. I drink almost exclusively water and coffee. I do occasionally drink wine, lite beer, or mixed drinks (no juices, think a dirty vodka martini or an old fashioned (I know there is sugar in an old fashioned but not like in a juice containing cocktail and I will only drink 1). I eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, meats, fish, etc. I do not eat sweet desserts except on rare occasions. Do I ever violate these rules - yes. Why, because if I don’t I won’t live by them. If I go out with my family to a nice restaurant, I may eat some Tiramisu and I will feel the sugar high in ways only a diabetic can understand. Ands then, my desire for the dessert is quenched, and my mind/body remembers what too much sugar feels like. Makes it easier to stay low carb. This has absolutely nothing to do with managing my weight. I have found that I can eat as many calories as a powerweight lifter as I did as an endurance athlete. I do weigh more, but I am also a lot more muscular.
Layne, osteoarthritis (wear and tear) is not an inflammatory arthritis. On the other hand, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Psoriatic Arthritis, Septic Arthritis, and Gout will cause inflammation and likely jack up your CRP.
It's lime the notion that sugar makes kids hyper! It's not,it's because when kids eat cake is many times in birthdays and celebrations, so kids are just happy by socializing, and playing
Lol i'd love to see a video where you debunk Dr. Bikman
I don't know about you guys... But when I eat a low carb diet, I never sprain my ankles. 🙄
Well what is true is that a healthy Ketogenic Diet is healthier than a carbohydrate diet.
@@rogerschwarzinger7491 feel free to post the studies proving it's "healthier".
I feel like low carb is probably best suited for people who work 9-5 office jobs and working out a 3-4 times a week. Because your apetite will be low and as long as you use carbs around the workout youll be fine . But if you have a physical job or are working out more low carb would be bad idea imho