Does Insulin Make Us FAT? | Layne Norton | The Proof Podcast EP 219

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  • Today I sit down with Layne Norton, PhD to answer one very topical question: does insulin make us fat?
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    Welcome to the first bite-sized episode of The Proof. In these short conversations, I am joined by a guest to tackle a single topic in a brief, digestible time frame. In this episode, Layne Norton, PhD addresses recent online claims by Ben Bikman, PhD. Dr Bikman claims that if we keep insulin low and control seed oils, fat cells can stay smaller and healthier. But is there any truth to this claim?
    Layne Norton, PhD is a nutrition scientist, author, and athlete. He has published tens of scientific articles, delivered seminars and workshops all over the world, and coached over 1,000 individuals in his career. Dr Norton is a highly regarded figure in the fitness and nutrition industries, and offers detailed scientific insight into this topic.
    In this episode, Dr Norton takes a highly scientific approach to the topic at hand. We discuss adipocyte hypertrophy, the difference between and significance of hypertrophy versus hypoplasia, and the consequences of misinformation.
    Specifically, we cover:
    0:00 Intro
    2:24 Dr. Bikman’s Claims
    7:19 Hyperplasia and hypertrophy
    12:17 Gap of Research
    15:56 Why this is problematic
    20:14 Motives
    22:53 Outro
    I hope you found this conversation and format insightful and clarifying. I look forward to hearing your thoughts in the TH-cam comments.
    Connect with Layne Norton, PhD:
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    • Twitter: / biolayne
    • Facebook: / laynenorton
    • Website: biolayne.com/
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  • @Amshatelia88
    @Amshatelia88 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I actually love this shorter format! I also love the two hour deep dive podcasts, but this was actually informative and fun without getting deep in the weeds. Thanks Simon!

    • @ManjiMachine
      @ManjiMachine 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya ill watch a hrs long podcast over multiple times but for some reason when its chopped into shorter bits im just more receptive to the information

  • @marcjacobson757
    @marcjacobson757 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It would be great to see Layne Norton back on the podcast for a deep-dive. He seems to care about distilling the evidence for his audience and using the science to debunk the exaggerated claims of many social media creators. He is one of the few true nutrition scientists I've been able to find providing evidence-based, unbiased, comprehensible content with ample references to published literature. I just wish he provided more long-form, deep-dive content like The Proof does, although I realize that takes a tremendous amount of time.

  • @lindsaytoussaint
    @lindsaytoussaint ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Misinformation always has unintended consequences” 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 layne is a breath of fresh air. I’ve never encountered his content before but have heard him mentioned many times. Now I see why. I like his no bs attitude and his perspective on misinformation. It’s important to be as loud as the noise sometimes.

  • @shona_vertue
    @shona_vertue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was awesome. How this doesn't have a million subs and/or views is beyond me. Keep pushing. Simon you summarised Laynes manic delivery (of which is also awesome because we love his passion). The balance of both of you speaking together is so amazing to access. Thank you for this free and well researched content.

  • @craigemmerich
    @craigemmerich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great episode! Thanks for sharing.

  • @dnj1262
    @dnj1262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the shorter format!!!

  • @ninayashaa
    @ninayashaa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super interesting, also love your Cap Simon haha

  • @jenniferkompara-tosio8827
    @jenniferkompara-tosio8827 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The main issue is buckets of very attractive hyper-processed foods and fake food - that problem needs to be focused upon rather than groups, who ninety percent of the time are in accordance, battling over trivia.

  • @Kerry6691
    @Kerry6691 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh this is gonna be good!

  • @Matt-cb8dt
    @Matt-cb8dt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the helpful perspective! Love the podcast!
    Speaking of dogmatic diets, I would appreciate an episode looking at the nutritional claims of the Western A. Price foundation. Their perspective (and especially Sally Fallon’s book “Nourishing Traditions”) have a big influence on several health conscious folks in my community.

    • @Amshatelia88
      @Amshatelia88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES I would love to see this as well!! I came across the Weston Price folks on my progression from vegetarian to vegan and some of it is surface level plausible, until you realize they're anti-science woowoo quacks. They also make and sell their own snake oil supplements. Would be a super fun episode.

  • @elisaferrara5039
    @elisaferrara5039 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. Layne was informative and objective. I would like to hear what information he has on other topics around weight loss, diets, etc... The comment he made about why some people are successful on some diets and not others, brings an awareness I'd never considered.

    • @Amshatelia88
      @Amshatelia88 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Layne as well, he is truly committed to objectivity and that's a rarity these days.

  • @pahriz
    @pahriz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with the idea that there are real consequences to misinformation. I was eating so much saturated fat, making bacon, so I could save the lard for cooking...Yes, thank God, I'm Still healthy

  • @marvinsmith3833
    @marvinsmith3833 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m overdosing on seed oil misinformation overconsumption.

    • @alfonsodlt8850
      @alfonsodlt8850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm all about the Polyunsaturated Facts

  • @Suzoebas
    @Suzoebas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a hormone called insulin that tells the fat cells what to do. When insulin is high, the fat cells are in storage mode. When insulin is low, it allows fat to be released from the fat cells to be used as energy.
    It is interesting that Layne never addresses or acknowledges how this works. One out of three people are insulin resistant which means often their insulin is very high. There are studies of normal people eating a low calorie diet, that were given insulin, and they all gained weight.
    It is true that most diet and exercise plans will work with consistency, but hormones and gut bacteria play a huge roll. It just makes it harder for some people.
    If you are insulin resistant, then get a continuous glucose monitor and don’t eat anything that creates a large spike your blood sugar.

  • @sandradings8660
    @sandradings8660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is so interesting for me to hear other opinions. In Germany, low carb, a few fruits, and avoiding omega 6 are the common recommendations, in my experience. I dare to eat bananas now and then after listening to your podcasts :P

    • @Laura-je2uw
      @Laura-je2uw ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am german as well but i have never heard of these recommendations being seen as common. By common you mean what exactly? The health ministry or doctors? These recommendations seem to come from people who follow keto/atkins type diets. I always grew up learning (in germany) that for health it is important to eat whole grain products (rice, bread, pasta etc) fruits and veggies and to not eat too much fat and processed foods and isolated sugar, that is what i would call common recommendations - in germany and i guess in most other countries as well.

    • @sandradings8660
      @sandradings8660 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Laura-je2uw Yes, of course, whole foods and no processed foods as well. I think everybody agrees with that. I grew up in the same way, but I have a strong feeling that in the last 5 to 10 years, people's attitudes toward fruits, Omega 6, and carbohydrates have shifted. At least in my bubble (including some doctors I visited).

  • @davidvarkey1
    @davidvarkey1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to listening....Typo in thumbnail

    • @davidvarkey1
      @davidvarkey1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProofWithSimonHill got corrected. Said "makes" instead of make at one point.

  • @lucreciaming9215
    @lucreciaming9215 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What people who have lost a lot of weight are looking for is why we lost weight. I weighted 400+ I weight 175 now. I did low carb and inter fasting. Why did it work.

  • @Zenjohnny
    @Zenjohnny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who doesn't like a quickie? Hahahaha 😂🤣

  • @carinaekstrom1
    @carinaekstrom1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Conversively, when you do liposuction, is it possible that since those hungry fatcells are gone, hunger goes down? If you despite this regain weight I suppose you are making fewer fatcells bigger. As far as avoiding fat gain it seems that fewer fatcells than what you used to have would be better, since the bigger ones are less hungry?

    • @Amshatelia88
      @Amshatelia88 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I understand, liposuction is not a "weight loss" surgery and is specifically advised against for people who are overweight, it's a sculpting procedure for people who are normal weight but want a slightly different shape. The amount of fat cells removed is very small and not enough to impact hunger levels. "Weight loss" surgeries are gastric bypass or lap bands which affect the appetite and support weight loss by limiting food intake.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Amshatelia88 Absolutely, but I'm not sure if the fat cells removed do not actually affect hunger, even though the amount of fat cells removed isn't great. I only have anecdotes describing this phenomenon.

    • @Amshatelia88
      @Amshatelia88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carinaekstrom1 it's definitely an interesting question!!

  • @jeffrey4577
    @jeffrey4577 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lane is smart but so what when he is rude and arrogant .That's prob why bikaman won't come on to waste his time . He expects his interpretations of data to be the only ones but trashes others. That's not cool.

  • @serenalynch9670
    @serenalynch9670 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video has made it very clean that Norton has not done his research on Bikmans work. If Bikman was sitting next to him, he would agree with everything he is saying. Norton isn't proving anything. He is ony proving that he doesn't understand Bikmans work, and he probably has only watched the 5 second clip of Bikman and has taken it completely out of context. My level of following Norton just went way down becuase if this is the amount of effort he puts into his research about another scientist he is going to disprove, then I can't believe anything he is saying about any of his other videos. Norton is clearly smart and educated, however don't twist Bikmans work to make it sound like you are disproving him.

  • @ElizarTringov
    @ElizarTringov 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Simon, why won't you set up a Patreon and let us send you moneys?!

  • @BorisK296
    @BorisK296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Might not want to bring up Hitler in a nutrition disagreement, Layne

  • @ccamire
    @ccamire ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very confusing discussion
    This Layne lacks clarity in his science overview.
    The recent overview from the Women health study demonstrated clearly that insulin resistance is the main driver behind many diseases. I am sad to hear that he does not believe that

  • @williamlagakos9609
    @williamlagakos9609 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude, unblock me on Twitter!

  • @johnmartinsen963
    @johnmartinsen963 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Waste of 20 minutes....opening remark that you can find a mechanism to prove anything you want...goes on to use that to support what he wants.
    Two young guys trying to get noticed by supporting corrupt science vs successful mature adult that actually helps people reverse metabolic diseases.
    I'm sticking with Ben...easy to understand and his approach works!

    • @cr528
      @cr528 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not for everyone it doesn't..just made my fatty liver worse