DroneTag - First FAA approved Remote ID Device
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- DroneTag Mini is the first FAA Approved device for Remote ID in the United States. It has also been approved for use in the UK.
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If these RID units get down to $10 in price, I’ll buy a dozen and put one on my car, my mailman’s truck, my neighbor’s dog collar, a tree behind our local police station, several shopping carts and the roof of at least 3 or 4 hotel elevators. 😎
Good idea........🤔
I’m going to tape a bunch to some pigeons and scare them off 😂
@@SupremeVerminAirsoft Great minds think alike
@@SupremeVerminAirsoft I was thinking Canadian Geese, with a little solar panel "backpack" to recharge it and a timer.
I love this malicious compliance
This will fail so terribly. No fpv pilots are gonna put this on their drones, especially the pilots that fly mostly on their own property.
Oh it'll be on my drone, one black box with three pretty lights, a battery and some ports in the box holes. Can't promise the circuit board will make it though. Gotta save that weight lol.
@@syntaera 😂 we over here in Germany are Taking notes 🌚
I think Karens should have remote ID. We could pull up the app and see how many and where they are.
People understand the whole remote id is dependent on compliance we the people have the right to not comply with this and the whole thing will crash.
@The Untraveled Path good point!
Fact
Unfortunately though there is WAY more money involved behind the scenes with this whole debogle. They will push for even stricter regulations down the road like regulating components and how and who those components can be sold too.
"do not comply" is a moral stance against unreasonable overreach of power and invasion of privacy
We should just troll the FAA, buy a ton of these and leave them all over the place
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're totally right. Its NOT our fault. Its pilots like you that forced this. Hovering over kids playing in their bathing suits, posting videos YOU KNOW are against faa p107 guidelines yet you still do, influencing other pilots with ideas to do the same.
People like you Ken are the reason. Thanks so much.
Most people don't think about children the way you apparently do.
Get some counseling.
There is no requirement for RID in the UK so that approval seems a bit silly. Also, since broadcast RID *modules* aren't legally required on drones in the USA until September 2023 I can't understand why ANYONE would waste their money on one of these things right now.
Besides which, all drone operators should remember that the FAA's rules are "regulation by consent" and if I was in the USA, I would withhold my consent for RID because it serves no purpose other than to endanger drone flyers in the era of Karens.
The FAA fines and violations are not by consent. They operate with Regulation Authority!😡
@@inspiredartphotos Unless they have enforcement officers on every street corner then compliance *is* by consent.
3 big kids flying drones in an airport, driving a police car and talking about Karens tracking drones? Instant classic
Yeah, we really are just big kids. So true!
I think the solution to the Karens is to invent the “Invisible Remote Control” then we can sit there and act clueless when the Karen walks over! 😂😂😂
I’d buy that for a dollar! 👏🏻
Mind control!
Speed it up, Elon! Neuralink when?
Genius 😂
Remote ID is only a kick in the nuts to pilots who comply.
It's to EVERYONE bud...
@@Freebird_67 Nope. For the pilots like myself who will fly responsibly without RID-compliant firmware or without a RID module installed, it’s a total non-event.
I will NEVER put this on any of my models. And if someone has the audacity to confront me about it, they'll regret it.
Same. I fly on our farm and I certainly wouldn't suggest any uninvited guest to show up.
It is simple people do not comply especially at 300.00 for a GPS...if everyone does not follow these stupid rules there will be no issue.
this is just another way the far left found to exstort more money from hobbiest following the rules
We will NOT comply!
And we have every right to dislike the manufacturers who play the game. As they are only serving to empower the FAA’s ridiculous regulations. All in the name of capitalizing on an available opportunity to make a little money.
They are actively hurting the hobby, not helping it!
👆this
lol the mini3 doesn't need the separate module, dji was overly happy to slap remote ID into firmware, they ran to work that morning
i will never tag my drone
same here
I think the real meaning of this video is to show the FAA just how ridiculous there regulations are.
Yuuuuuuup.
Can't wait till someone hacks it and puts gibberish into the stream.
Well even if the "hobby" version is more than $10.00 I will be looking for the Government form to fill out where they can cover the cost of the unit. If the government can afford to provide crack pipes and drug use kits they can surely provide remote I.d. for the safety of the airspace.
That's a legendary idea!!! Best comment yet!!!!!
The one guy was such a good Karen I hated him the rest of the video haha
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Lmao. Good luck getting anybody to actually use that shit.
That will be great. I can't wait to get speeding tickets from the FAA.
Eventually only movie studios and networks will be able to fly. All these rules have taken all of my joy. Sold my mavic last year and don’t miss it.
Anyone using one of the drone tags should also look into a conceal carry class , a know how to use a pistol, ive been in weird spots without the drone tag , I think it'll get bad , don't give up that info without a way to protect yourself. We're lucky in Tennessee we can now constitutional carry. But many some states aren't as lucky but u recommend the gun safety class regardless
@@SkeezyFPV well , faa claims from the top of a blade of grass to the sky. Unless underr a over pass or in a mall something with. Roof. Faa views then as a unmanned aircraft
@@SkeezyFPV I knew I should've put a gun on my drone. I like the way you think.
@@SkeezyFPV NY has made everything illegal to the point that they have zero compliance. Them banning of something will probably make people start doing it. And why ban something if no one has ever done it? I'm also not worried about so called felons with guns as much as low IQ gov types with guns.
@@SkeezyFPV you know I'd thought about that before. If less than 400 feet is in unregulated airspace, then what happens there doesn't really even fall under the FAA regulatory scope.
OMG KEN, the karen bit is some of your best work yet I swear!!!!
Aren't the newer DJI drones remote id compliant? I thought they already had remote id built in just need to be activated via update.
This is solid gold! I was laughing the entire time. Informative and also a eye opener on how this tech is developing. Subscribed!
Thank you! 🤓
$300.00 yeah nope.
If you attach this to a mini or mini 2 you have gone over the 249gram limit and have to register drone with the FAA.
That's correct.
no, there is allowance for this extra weight
@@embededfabrication4482 possible but I doubt the FAA is going to raise the weight requirements for sub250 drones.
Gov over reach!! To much control! Love what u do! We nned to save our hobby!
Listen, all the DJI drones are already Remote ID compatible. In fact, instead of relegating us to FRIAs, this could possibly enable BVLOS flights and there even been talk at DJI of eliminating or at least reducing NFZs once Remote ID is implemented. That's gotta count for something...
It could also geofence you or prevent launch in areas you feel are clearly safe to fly…
So when the FAA gets sued for damages after the first pilot gets put in the hospital or worse. Do you think they will turn off the ground station location? Or will everyone be carrying CCW?
We believe that it's so highly likely that one of our drone pilots will be attacked and almost killed because of remote tracking next September that we are already drawing up the lawsuit to follow just in case.
The drone pilots that use this are tacitly accepting the risk. Don’t us it AT ALL.
@@SkyCoreLLC I agree. It's just a matter of time.
guys where can I buy a Karen detector @UFO Commander FPV
Excellent Video. Very Interesting! Thank You Ken, Keith, and Barkley.
Well, at least it keeps our legacy drones alive. Thanks. And with a bit of humor as always.
Thanks Ken, You made a slow Saturday evening better:)
This law is a horrible and shows a complete lack of concern for pilots. They have only ensured that the relationship between remote pilots and the public worsens. Did they ever consider the safety of the pilot. So now folks that do not know anything about the laws have an opportunity to take the law into their own hands and confront the pilot, crazy or not. So, I personally feel unsafe, it will not be long before some armed folks do harm. This should never have been passed. So disappointed. They can’t pass gun control laws (however) you feel about it yet they can arbitrarily burden pilots with additional safety concerns. Ridiculous. Punish those who break the laws, not the entire community! Ugh!!!
Thus has nothing to do with guns so please back off that.
If the FAA "enforcement" is anything like the FCC, you'd have to really really consistently annoy the wrong person to ever even get any actual attention.
True.
Please verify this info Ken. It comes from Drone DJ. “FAA asserts that Remote ID will help law enforcement and other federal agencies find the control station when a drone appears to be flying in an unsafe manner or where it is not allowed to fly. Remote ID will also lay the foundation of the safety and security groundwork needed for more complex drone operations such as Beyond Visual Line of Sight (BVLOS) missions and package deliveries.
In addition to the three drones listed above, the seven other DJI drones that have been approved for Remote ID mandate are:
DJI Mini 3 Pro
DJI Avata
DJI Air 2S
DJI Mavic 3
DJI Mavic 3 Cine
DJI Matrice 30 (M30)
DJI Matrice 30 Thermal (M30T)
The drone maker says it will provide firmware updates before September 16, 2023, to get most of its modern aircraft ready for Remote ID compliance. However, some older drone models may require a separate, add-on Remote ID module.”
It would be great if this was limited to those with a legitimate need to know. We need a group with some teeth to protect our rights. We need a group “Like Gun Owners of America” to sue their asses off!
That looks about right.
12:33 THIS IS WHY WE LOVE KEN
RIGHT ON BROTHER
Does it broadcast a message that says "shooot me"? Might as well.
I'm sure every cop in the area will be sitting there tuned in looking for who's flying a quad, what a pile of garbage, who is going to monitor and enforce this?
they're 300 euros........I'll wait and see if I get a fine
Fines from what I've heard are pretty steep.
I'm not compliant either and never will be. Been flying since the 70's without one incident and will continue doing so. I've worked to hard throughout my life and wrecked my body in the process and ive gotten literally nothing in return except the pennies I get from S.S which can't feed a squirrel. RC piloting has kept my sanity for all those years and I will NEVER give that up just like my rights on the 2nd!!
$300 for the module? Id rather pay the fine.
For those saying it brings the Mini3 Pro over 249g, while yes, you are correct, you do not need the drone tag for it because the Mini 3 Pro is already RemoteID compliant.
That's fine for the Mini 3 but it still sucks for my Mini 2...
@@Tangent360 it's going to suck for anyone that has older outdated stuff or home made.
Why’s everyone getting upset about it? 😅 why are you even bothered about RID? 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️ just don’t do it!
What a total load of complete bollocks. Who on earth is going to fork out the money for that?.
The sheep will.
this was so well made. thank you ken!
Yeah I'm not doing this. The FAA I'd completely unhinged these days. Just look how they treated Trent Palmer recently. I think they've been taking lessons from ATF. Just fly safely and covertly
I'll put it this way - people better be VERY careful if they decide to approach and confront me in the wild. I don't do very well with Karens.
Me either
Me either. Why I STRICTLY only fly on our farm nowadays. I am not someone who takes likely to my space being invaded. Totally get you.
Does this mean that old aircraft with out electrician systems will also be required to have systems like this?
Surprised how good this damn video is hahaha😂
They expect us to pay $300 bucks for that?!?!
@@SkeezyFPV the rid module is $300.
Make it bigger and heavier. And make it neon-pink so you can help find it when it creates RF noise that hoses your link.
time to start filming from a moving vehicle :)
I’ve been doing that for 20 years plus. Harder than it sounds because of eye/ear discordance but a very satisfying and useful skill to develop. I encourage every FPV’er to give it a try.
"oh noooooo sorry sir! my module musta fell off when I was crushing this sick bando!"
I will never put on of those on my drones, in fact I am looking at software to make my drone more stealth!
me too
So are lots of others. So please keep this talk to ourselves.
Thank you, Ken. Great video and excellent facetious look at this new way to screw up a hobby.
Drones are a "Kick In The Nuts" to the RC community.
Just like the shoe company..... it's not the drone's fault
@@tucker173 No, IMHO, it's the AMA who is to blame! Their greed brought this upon the rc community.
So.. you could write messages to Karens with the little blue tracky line... or shapes? Like a Etch-A-Sketch?
The Toy Story Etch-A-Sketch on steroids!
those pin locations are likely the location of the smartphones running the app.
Jobs for the boys.. lets make a harmless hobby with next to no issues have to wear a radio tag like a criminal!!
Only $300. My legal drone flights will soon end.
Nice, so now my model has a extra $300 piece of electronics to break in a crash
The great thing about this as opposed to airtags, I can track a person flying a drone so I know they got money I'll be able to steal along with their gear.
Come on Portal FPV everyone knows drone pilots have no money! They have drones. LOL!
@@DDsAerialViews 😆🤣🤝😅
Especially if they are flying FPV alone… One good cross jaw sucker punch and all that gear is yours for the taking.
@@jeffparisse4202 check Out Jeff flexing 💪🏼👊 😅
I’ll give my exact location mate, I fly fpv alone all the time, come at me bro! 😃🤣
@@bugsy742 I’ve been assaulted twice. We’re on the same side mate!
The only way I would consider this is if there was some give and take. We can legally fly out of LOS if we abide by the monitor, things like that. For the record, I wont be partaking.
That would be nice. I dont see much give and take in any other similarly banned thing. Looks at firearms? Do any states that require a license allow licensed owners to then purchase machine guns or suppressors? Nope just take take take.
I just love how Ken makes videos about bad sh*t fun to watch.
Hey Ken Well I found the first problem is. I have 15 different frames I fly, but only 2 of them will be able to fit this module on to and still be able to fly. Thanks a lot FAA, thanks for KILLING THE HOBBY !
Bro just fly and forget about all this nonsense 👍🤝😎
Agreed.
Well if it does not show you location but the drones, maybe we need a quick release for the unit, when you see a Karin you fly by the outhouse and let it go. Come find me Karin !
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Damn I guess I’ll have to put drone tag on my Estes rocket armed jets smh 😂
The FAA should stick those up…
where the sun DON'T shine.
They couldn’t pay me to use this.
My skydio 2+ has standard ID builded in. Went to register on FAA site but they will not take serial number oh well did my job lololol guess I don't register it. 🙃
What he said, only after you unboxed it; that's huge! And heavy!
The reason why it is jumping around is because it has a simple GPS antenna that doesn't block multipath (you put it on the bottom to) and has no more accuracy then your phone, 15 to 20 feet, also using Bluetooth as a way to send the location of the device to a nearby cell phone could also effect the accuracy. Another fail by a company trying to do the impossible. Everyone thinks GPS GNSS technology is something that sends a signal back to the satellites, when in fact it is merely a receiver that uses the information sent to it by the satellites and then calculates an autonomous position internally with it's onboard computer. I am a land surveyor and know that in order to get a precise measurement using GPS technology it takes TWO GPS receivers and a modem link between them to know precisely where anything is i.e. RTK. this involves having a powerful UHF Radio or a cell phone connection to link the two, similarly, like the 2400mhz 5800mhz of the Drone to the controller, however there is no GPS receiver in the controller! It is highly unlikely that any company is going to go to that kind of extreme. The device would be to large and to expensive. it is also doubtful that the FCC will ever allow Bluetooth to be more powerful then it is now given the number of Bluetooth devices already being used. I think the way to go is to have a flight controller that has a GPS receiver and either a cell phone sim card or Wi-Fi connection, then the location of the drone and pilot could be sent to the internet and known by others. I look for a smart controller in the future that will solve this issue. I thought it was kinda funny when Ken jumped in the car and started driving down the runway..... um there is no GPS in the controller duh
Thanks for the info.
I wonder how many of us fpv piolits will be adding this to our rigs ummmmmm nope! I've been flying camera drones for 5 years and fpv for 2 and in those years 2 people have approached me.....they said wow dude is that a drone!!! There has been 850 recorded baseball deaths over the years that's 850 more then drones...are we going to start taping these to our fellow baseball players I'm mean that's how arbitrary it sounds to me! Another way to make money...this time I'm not opening my mind or wallet.....absurd
Why can't they make it like a regular plane transponder? Can karens dial in on airplanes? The whole idea here is to keep the sky safe. That is the bottom line and should be. Weather drones should be put to the same standards as regular planes, the answer is yes. For the safety of all. Not the little toy drones you play with in your back yard at less then 100 feet but for the drones that can go six to eight miles, the ones that can go up well past 400 feet. I am a strong believer in VLOS always. I know that being beyond VLOS is needed and used today and that's ok. Just remember the whole idea was and is to keep everyone safe. Keep up the good work Ken. Your input and knowledge in our hobby and sport is greatly valued and loved. Thank you.
It's not really to keep the sky safe.. It's because they can, and there is revenue in regulating things. If it was really for safety, they would do a non biased, non political study on multirotors and dig into the squeaky clean safety standing that we have. Also, they would be able to see that not everything above 250g is alike. We should not be regulated anywhere close to a commercial workhorse type of multirotor. If they spent the effort to understand that we take the safety side of this far more seriously than they assume, they would find out that it behooves us to be thorough and fly responsibly. Any given time we have $600-1000 in the air, potentially never to be seen again, not to mention the places we like to frequent, to fly. Just my thoughts.
The professional operations thing sounds like BS since as I read RID required part107 operators to each have their own unique id and report live the location of the operator and aircraft. This device does not meet the requirements for professional operators I don't think? Please correct me if I am wrong.
What does the FAA say is the reasoning behind this intrusion?
That's still huge
I would get mad at the shoe company if they decided to cash in by making a new pair of shoes just to kick you in the nuts.
I was on Artco’s livestream and was told when I finished with that, Jeff Sills told me I had to watch this video
The price and remote ID have something in common; they suck/ but one thing that doesn’t suck is this video!!
I have a Phantom 4 and a mavic air now I have to spend $300 for a stupid remote ID to stick on it. I hate the government!
Phantom 4s dont have any place to put something like this. Even lights mess with the GPS. I had to put them on the legs. Itll have to go under it somehow.
Thank ken herron and other youtube idiots for putting a rush on this thing. They have literally posted videos of why the government took actions. Dude is a pedo.
@@justinsane7832 Pedo? What's wrong with you. That's a GQP/tRumpanzee line. Why start that here, brah?
@@j.christy8449 typical lefty spouting off when they have no clue what they're talking about. Go watch him hover over water, creepily watching kids in bathing suits swimming in a lake at a camp site...brahhhh
I found Ken Herons video very interesting.
It's not the 'karens' I'm worried about or I suppose the ' Kevins', or dog walkers- it's the opportunists and the people up to no good I'm worried about and likewise any other flyer out flying on their own.Will the people that download these apps be registered and asked why they need this app for their phone.Will they be able to be tracked as well just in case............
Habanero enemas are approved also, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna use it! 😎
I think this insane is for The membrane of the deranged. Keep on flying.
don't care, going to ignore this video, covering my ears and eyes, nananananananananaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Does it show up on an ADS-B in receiver like the one in my plane?
We believe that it's so highly likely that one of our drone pilots will be attacked and almost killed because of remote tracking next September that we are already drawing up the lawsuit to follow....just in case.
Got assaulted twice while doing professional road survey for city government. Had to finish the job with police escort. Remote ID will produce plaintiffs for the enviable lawsuits. I won’t use it because it 1. puts my team in jeopardy 2. is unequal protection under the law and 3. will be adjudicated away in the near future anyway.
@@jeffparisse4202 Can anyone show me the constitutional amendment that established the FAA?
@@ghettogardens1 US Constitution, Article II, Section 2
I fly out in BFE Utah where there's no cell service. How would this app/device work in those situations??
So is remote ID required even on the Mini 3 pro? I've lost track of all the new FAA rules since I have been flying mine.
Seems like it would be practically impossible to enforce this....what is the faa going to have people running around everywhere with binoculars looking for drones and pilots?
My drone has a tinfoil hat would it interfere with its gps? lol
Won't go on the mini 2 as it will be over weight after
not gonna comply, companies developing this crap are just as bad. ignore it like CB licensing, it'll go away
Exactly
He was filming over deer....get it...haha over..deer :) :)
This is such a good idea. I think every human should be required to wear a remote id at all times. I mean, we’d all be so much safer!
90% of the way there with smart phones and AI recognition in cameras.
Sarcasm I hope.
300 for a bluetooth transmitter? That must be all licensing cost.
How is it I can go fly my plane with less headache now days than a drone.....
That's incorrect. Remote ID also applies to planes 🙁
@@dingalarm That's my point, I'm already doing a pre-flight and everything else that comes with a plane, so not a big deal. But a little tiny flying toy?
Remote id must be attempt to monitor DJI drones since there are so many of them out there and this tech will be built in. This will be nearly impossible to enforce for DIY drones or smaller companies. This device probably costs more than a ticket for violating lol.
So just how durable is that thing??? I highly doubt it would service one bando crash or “Trees are Dicks” encounter. Is the company going to offer a care refresh plan for $20 every time that thing gets bricked into a tree? I think not. And at $300 that ain’t no deal. If it was $30 and 1/4 the size and weight they might have something there. Otherwise it’s pirate time.
It’s a joke Doc.
We already have the technology for remote id which is a flight controller with GPS module Bluetooth and Wi-Fi chip added. All that's truly required is the manufacturer's to write the firmware to broadcast the remote id.. So as you can see this can be done for very cheap with no added weight or devices.. This is about money and big corporations taking over the airspace!!!!!!!!!
Nice editing Mr. Heron. What did it take you, 3 or 4 hours? 🤣🤣🤣 BTW the "Karen" in your video is a great actor and deserves an award. Just saying. As for the tag, it needs a little more work before it's ready to go to market. On second thought. No, it doesn't. Let the "Karen's" be confused as to the drone's location. 👍