How can you be on a cover for your acting skills before your acting debut happened?? It’s like getting on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine as a rising singer before any of your songs have been released.
And out there Lilies and Blinks trying to convince us that this girl got a chance to perform in Victoria Secret because of her insane popularity, she won best Kpop award while her songs aren't kpop because of her popularity, getting a rolling stone interview when none of her songs did well with critics because she's successful, now she's a great actress because she's yet to make her acting debut in a big show and she's got potentials plus exploring like WTH, even blackpink didn't recieve such coverage or even her own biggest hit Money did not recieve such welcome, if some normal person believing this then they aren't normal anymore. She's clearly using connections through her bf. Did no one really find it odd when she suddenly stepped out of Celine and is now a Louis Vitton ambassador. For someone who's so innocent she's snatching someone else's spotlight.
Y'all act as if Lisa isn't famous at all. It's one thing to say she shouldn't be on the cover and it's another to throw away all her hard work and attribute it to someone else just because they may be dating. Everything you've mentioned she could definitely achieve on her own without her alleged bf. It's how agents and labels work. Jimin won Kpop without a kpop song too. I don't see y'all calling it out for anything. She has sold out fan-meets with large capacities but y'all want to claim you don't see how she gets deals and opportunities. Did he force or lure those fans to buy thise tickets? No... It was Lisa's own fame and capacity.
@@Lia-yu6qc in Hollywood she is not known!! She hasn’t done remarkable things in kpop and not even in US charts . She is popular of curse but nobody knows her. Not even those ppl who attended victoria secrete ….,. Is paid. Just bc she has famous friends that doesn’t make her stablished in American industry.
@@yomarysanchez1808 She has achieved a lot in Kpop. There's a reason she was known as the most successful soloist before Jk broke her records and ppl still aim to have their favs surpass her and some idols even pick her for their role model. Not being known.... what are your authorities? Many models knew her and these gigs are usually secured by labels to promote their artists too and she is signed in partnership with one. Many celebs eg Cardi who attended knew Lisa and had even mentioned years before that Money was one of her favs songs. She has been attenind functions and brand promos for different stuff since what...2017, 2018 and brushing shoulders with some people in Hollywood. Hell she works with Zendaya and Anne Hathaway for Bvlg. Who's to say producers and directors can't know her from such events and the globalization of kpop. Because when it comes to medis, bts and bp esp bp in terms of promotion are more visible to the western media. Nobody knows her is a very big stretch. Her numbers in the US are good though she's yet to breakthrough there, again, which is why promotions through such gigs exist, she's just starting and people have to start somewhere and friens are always part of connections. I'm starting to notice a pattern in her hate train that ppl don't want to see this girl make waves and succeed. They had low expectations for heer and hate that she's actually doing smth for herself which is what has bred so much resentment.
I'm honestly fed up with Hollywood 💀 it's always ppl with no experiences that has the best place in projects just bc they either have money or connections or both. But what makes me even more annoyed is her obsessed fans always there to overrhype Lisa even when she doesn't deserve it esp they overhyped her at the VS Fashion Week performance where she didn't sing for shit but still get praised as "Queen of The world" or "angelic voice" like- 🤡. And honestly these behaviors are a big slap to actual artists who work their ass off and those who truly deserve the best opportunities and all these crazy amount of supports
I think people need to understand that saying Lisa shouldn’t have been on that cover isn’t hate at all. She hasn’t made her acting debut yet, therefore she isn’t classed as an actress. Even with that small role, she is still a Kpop star and not a full time actor like the others that the magazine was supposed to cover. Yes I’m happy for her but still think other actresses could have and should have had that opportunity instead.
@@babyggukie3580 with all do respect girl, she could have done that with literally any other magazine. The Vanity Fair magazine is for actors/actresses who have *already* made an impact in the FILM industry to be appreciated. It’s not for promoting an upcoming and/or NEW actress. Adding Lisa to this is great for HER, but makes zero sense and highlights her away from the others on the cover.
She is no longer a kpop singer, but is working as a Thai singer in her hometown of Thailand. What kind of kpop singer is she? Where are the kpop songs she is releasing these days??
1. Definition of PAYED HER WAY , like it's already bad that she used connection and stuff to get there but her fans saying it's her popularity who got her there needs to be studied, it's like shoving your popularity into people's throat.
or maybe vanity fair knew that regardless of how many acting roles lisa has had she has a ton of fans who will buy this magazine because of her it’s not that deep
@@nnnn-sc2im yes, it IS this deep. this magazine still has credibility and shouldn't throw, and usually doesn't, every other popular influencer on the cover. some people actually care about these last places of artistic integrity and promotions. i guarantee you the magazine is doing fine on its own and did not need lisas popularity for some sale push. the audiences dont cross at all. please stop downplaying or excusing shtty shady behavior. we know the grammys can be shady, but that doesn't excuse it or make it less bad if they were to give a grammy to the fckn skibidi toilet just because its popular rn and would trend on social media. as an art lover, this level or excuses and apathy is depressing to see.
1: She definitely must've had a good and strong connection with someone rich to be on that because how ELSE did she get to feature on there? Honestly, seeing Lisa with all those big-name Hollywood actors felt kind of strange-most of them have been in the film industry way longer than her, so it just seemed a bit out of place.
Honestly, almost everyone is saying that it is because of FA… but to be honest, it couldn't fully be FA- she definitely has many hidden connections rather than just FA. But sadly, it has always been like this. Or at least, mostly. People who have more resources, connections and fame all get pushed into the front lines even when they don't deserve it. Whilst the others who don't have much resources and connections as them are forced to walk behind them. It's wrong and unfair but the truth.
1. That what i was saying! Like i'm not saying lisa isn't famous but seeing her in that picture with zendaya felt so off. She hasn't made an acting debut but is already getting praised for her acting skills?! Like girl where? You can't even use "The White Lotus" to judge her acting cause it isn't even released. I feel they should have AT LEAST waited for it to drop before posting that pic and her fans saying "Oh you guys are just jelous😒" like no its clear as day shes using connections
@@yomarysanchez1808 i dont think its a matter of her english or lack thereof i think its matter of her wanting to be black girl, she just comes across as being dimwitted not having much ways of making a conversation interesting enough. says the word like so much that she clearly is trying too hard to be interesting when shes just an airhead as a lot of influencers are that way. theres no difference between her and a regular social media star. they couldnt even describe how they go about recording a song
I thought it was a known fact that she is using her bf you really think global citizen and VS will have someone like her who can't even sing Fred payed her way
Thank you for acknowledging she can't sing ....like... I hate when Lillies go"Her mic is ON !! You can hear her breathing" yes I can ,but I can also hear bad vocal techniques and cracks in her voice . She CAN'T sing,she can dance well ,and rap is good (acc to k-pop standards ,Western rap? She can't compare at all) I really don't get WHY she is on that cover like it don't make sense wth-
@@fairiesarefair her fans/blinks really keep getting more and more delusional, its insane to see... i gave her the benefit of the doubt and watched some performances, its so obvious she's barely singing like 4 words at a time and lipsyncing the rest. i almost would excuse it if she had great dances, but this alleged "dance machine" is not doing anything interesting either, its all arm movements and body rolls, model poses or literally sitting down. its such a disconnect to what actual great artists and performers do... my god. its like she only cares about looking pretty and nothing else. and sadly thats all her fans care about as well.
Is it confirmed that he is her boyfriend at the end of the day they knew exactly why they put her there it is a company after all and honestly who cares? It would have been great if someone maybe from bts was invited. It’s not that deep so maybe the company wanted a change we will complain as if they are going to pay us.😅
@taetaeoggi1947 why would it better if BTS was invited? Nobody from BTS has acted in a Hollywood movie,It literally would have made more sense if I saw Jennie in this magazine because she atleast DID star in a series.
Was waiting for y'all to realize a lot of things Lisa has been getting through lately is cuz of her alleged bf. It makes the actual hardworking ppl feel like clowns
@@nnnn-sc2im you right , the reason this famous k-pop idol ( I know I know ,she isn't k-pop anymore BUT ,until NOW she is still only know as k-pop Lisa so) that still yet to show a single acting role , definitely got on this prestige magazine that only shows establish and popular actors because she deserves it and not because of her BILLIONAIRE bf with tons of family connections in the industry ( some that even money can't buy)
i hope her fans will understand this. its normal to use connections *to an extent,* but lisa's appearances throughout this ENTIRE year are inorganic, forced and bought. its a shame she chooses to buy her way to the top instead of earning praise and credibility in honest ways. shes literally marketing herself as a FRAUD. shes a glorified influencer, and these moves make her look even less credible. as an artist, its frustrating to see millionaires just throwing money at you, forcing you to look at them. she hasnt proven herself in any of the categories shes claiming to be 'killing it' in, and accepting her money (freds money more likely) is just exposing these magazines/outlets for being untrustworthy (we already know the industrys fcked, but they usually dont show it so openly.) i need fans to understand that this comment is NOT hate, and that if lisa wouldnt be happily using these shady AF tactics, i wouldnt write a negative comment about her to begin with.
a certain bts member is also starting to feel like a fraud even if his solo songs do well chart wise but its not a popularity contest and they dont seem to realise this. popularity will only get them so far even with connections. that and the fact lisa and even jennie are getting a bit too careless with their lack of underwear choice i mean just give them a strip club tbh. she can have attention but got nothing to show for it
im sorry lisa highlighted with ACTORS. ACTORS as if in acting in tv/film to earn a living. name a show where lisa was acting, SCREAMSS loud and clear nepotism
@@fluffylonjini5486 this is all idol groups are nowadays, that or theyre luring kids in at very young ages more than ever before. idols my age often arent skilled enough but theres also lack of age variation at the same time. yet there is also nepo babies including other top groups who get everything handed too them especially with the likes of tiktok aiding to groups hardly having to do much compared to say before tiktok era. i really dont even know what happened to blackpink cause they started off well and i guess the fame went to their heads and they fell way off the rails. yet give them solos and they either eat it up or rely on lipsynch and twerking to get noticed. so i think its only fair to judge them based on the fact so many idols come from wealth and connections and some idols really need to admit that its not for them.
She hasn't had one role in Hollywood, mean while their are countless actor/actress who go years/decades and still can't get it. Her fans and her are crazy. I won't even watch the new season of White Lotus now.
I really don’t understand how Lisa is there in the cover. She’s popular, I know, but to put her in a column WITH all of these esteemed actors and actresses really doesn’t make sense. Girl the only “acting” she has done is for her MVs💀 and I don’t think that justifies enough to be featured in such a column. Man the things money and in her case, a rich as well as influential boyfriend can do🙏🏼
i mean if shes hinting at what i think shes hinting at girl needs a reality check even if it is just a cover image. i dont get why shes on it what she do this time?n
Fans act as if Lisa being on that cover is normal!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! It is all connections and she has taken someone else's spot here. Like Timothee for example. ALL THAT I CAN SAY IS THAT IN LIFE WE WILL MEET PEOPLE WHO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY WE WANTED IN A JOB OR ELSE AND IT IS BECAUSE OF CERTAIN CONNECTIONS OR MONEY. And trust me, it won't feel good. - said from a blink myself
Lisa is everywhere lol...her songs are not even good yet she was in VS like wtf?? & now this 😭😭 i know she is popular & talented but is she deserving?? Hell noo
funny when blackpink was on tour you guys said that she would be the only one with a stable career and that she deserves it the most and now that she is getting success as a solo artist you guys hate her again💀
its just so fake all around. yes she's popular, but not THIS popular. she's talented, but not that talented. i mean wherein lies her talent? its not singing. its barely rapping. she's not even dancing much, its all the same recycled moves and hand gestures. im failing to see the talent lately, its all just noise and money. its absolutely undeserving all around. she could've earned respect by working honestly, but alas, she did not want to.
i agree, i guess this is her version of being an influencer without needing to actively use social media to promote anything imparticular if her names or face is on it it'll be a "success" whether its deserving i dont know about that i feel like she was just using blackpink to give her a leg up same with the others
@@nnnn-sc2im bc when she was in blackpink she was the best performer so people were hyping her up but now that she's alone her popularity doesn't rely on comparison
1. LISA on the cover is like: "Look at me I didn't even debut as an actress but I have influence so I'm here 😁"; 3. The "gum" aesthetic is the classic reusable concept that anyone can do, you just can't say: "Oh someone copy my original gum delinquent concept"; 5. Personally I liked Tick-Tack more than Cherish(My Love) because of the video game kind sound.
3:37 THANK YOU OMG kpop copying allegations are so stupid bc kpop literally takes from western music, trends, fashion and even aesthetics so nobody isn’t copying anyone and nobody owns any concept
She and tyla have god level pr teams. Both of them are very new, have somewhat avg talent although tyla has a bit more, and are misrepresenting entire genres. Tyla winning all the afrobeats awards when she is so new, her music is mid tier and her genre isn't even afrobeats is indicative of how good her pr team is. Same with Lisa winning kpop awards for her new songs that are not even sung in korean or by a korean. This is also indicative of how America loves everything watered down so its not too "ethnic" including how the person looks. Not too black or Asian.
@@Purple_dolphin-m1xThe reason why she's popular is because of the reasons stated above. Same with Lisa. It's PR machines pushing you to like their product.
Blackpink members: Look at my smooth, snow-white skin. Look at me, I'm wearing next to nothing twerking on stage. Look at my hundreds of backup dancers, making me look like I'm a great dancer. Hear my singing, it's auto-tune and lipsynced.
I have two members of the group where I expect their album and one is clearly Rosè and with this comment I am not saying that the rest are less or the sound and musical direction they decided to choose or because some are more sensual and have confidence in themselves to show it, I mention this because there are some commenting all kinds of things by this act, which is offended and scandalized because it shows a little skin. 🫠
3: LITERALLY 💯 LIKE COME ON, that pose has been around forever-idols have been doing it for years. It’s hardly original at this point. But naturally, MOAs couldn’t resist jumping in to defend, like it was some groundbreaking move unique to Yeonjun.
girl if it was just the pose no one would care. But it's all the things combined together that makes the photoshoots look so similar, it's enough to have eyes to see it. And yes Yeonjun's concept was unique, that's why nobody could say it looked similar to something else when it was released. If you look at the elements separetely of course you'll find gum or red hair in other photoshoots, but not all at once, like his interpretation. Imagine if Yeonjun did something like this after Wavy, everyone would yell plagiarism.
moas are mainly annoyed bc if this were the other way around sm stans would have no problem yelling plagiarism especially since sm stans pulled the plagiarism card for less
I am totally a huge Ateez fan and I really enjoyed Work and VERY much enjoyed Ice On My Teeth (especially that music video oh my god ❤). I can definitely see why a lot of people wouldn't like it though. It is a big switch from their old stuff which got me into them in the first place. I was thinking about it and I realized the big change in sound is partially because they are probably going for that more laid back energy like you said, and partially because of their lore/story. Their "diary version" albums basically have short story novella like things in each and it talks about what is going on in their lore which goes along well with why they sound like they do now. However; I can also see the pitfalls of that considering not everyone can be as invested as big Ateez fans and may just want to listen to them recreationally instead of having to keep up with like, the last ten seasons of episodes so to speak haha. Either way; I am excited to see where Ateez goes from here. Love your videos as per usual.
Not stirring hate but for a second I thought if this was someone like jennie or wonyoung or Yuna or even ahyeon They would have been shredded to pieces by the same Lisa fans (not talking about her actual admirers but more like people obsessed with her) When there are Oscar winning actress and amazing actresses who contributed to Hollywood then why Lisa? If it was related to performing or kpop then no body would've said a thing A different opinion or criticism doesn't mean hate
Just like you who is doing this same thing as (Jennie or others bias)you claimed Lisa fans are doing 🤭okey dragging in her like how her(a/to you )obsessed fans doing to others like jennie, wonyoung etc. Nothing different except some added pity /victimizing towards you fav😌 Not any hate towards any one just opinion. Just read comments you will know how much she getting hates too like others
@messenger042 None of the idols I mentioned are my biases...I only stan seventeen Lisa has her fan base which justifies anything but others doesn't have THESE many obsessed fans who will go any lengths And yes it's not their fault or Lisa's fault for having a fan base But these kind of fans are not good for any idol cause they develop a parasocial relationship with them thinking they're a victim and needed to be saved or pitifully stanning or even thinking they'll date them or they'll love them personally I'm not saying the hate she gets is any less but this time the criticism is highly valid
1. Idk how she got the chance to be in the same frame as the most iconic actors out there lisa didnt even make her acting debut and she didnt even work in the hollywood and she is already there lol what a joke and dont get me started on her fans defeding this by bringing her hardwork in the industry like tf yall dont get the point she might have worked hard in the kpop industry but not in the Hollywood this is a joke this might sound bitter but hollywood wont even pay attention to her as she isnt that famous to be featured in vanity fairs hollywood issue so idk how she made it up there 8. Running wild wasnt ny fav either it was an average song but the other songs were pretty good especially heart of the window wendy and jin both slayed
i'm so excited for Rosie, she has always been my fav in blackpink bc of how artistic she is. she's now the most successful kpop soloist and I hope her album does really good.
The most successful female soloist or in general? Because if female soloist, i believe thats Lisa. If in general regardless of gender, then thats 1. Jungkook, 2. Jimin then possibly 3. Lisa (maybe there is someone else before her). BTW, I'm not trying to sh!t on your parade, I'm just sick of kpop stans spreading misinformation. You know how fast misinformation spread especially since kpop stans tend to never do their research. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@SEFIKURAGAL Lisa is not more successful than Rosie anymore, just bc she had her moment with money (which trended by luck bc of squid game) doesn't make her this untouchable kpop soloist and what I said isn't misinformation rosè literally still charting top 10 on all charts. And she's STILL on hot 100, still no. 1 on bb200 for 3 weeks and def next week too. Charted better than blackpink and the list can literally keep going. So yes she is the most successful after Jungkook. Not even a fan of bp but you guys have always underestimated her and she finally proved y'all jenlisa solo stans wrong.
@Bangch4nslaptop I am not a fan of BP at all. I actually dislike them. My problem is that you claimed she was the most successful K-pop soloist, which she is not. And I said (Lisa is possibly 3rd because I wasn't sure). Lisa is not untouchable because her brand is weak (a strong fanbase, but a weak solo discography. Charting doesn't mean anything if the music is trash. Aka weak brand). "Lisa is not more successful than Rosie anymore, just bc she had her moment with money (which trended by luck bc of squid game)." That same rule can apply to Rosie. Just because she is having her moment with ATP doesn't mean she is more successful (which trended because it's a collaboration with Bruno Mars). I wouldn't have had an issue with your original state if you didn't say that she was the most successful soloist when, in fact, she is not. I did look it up, and the most results would be BTS members (mostly 1. Jungkook, Jimin, V) and BP with Lisa and possibly Rosie. Rosie has nothing to prove to me because I don't listen to BP or any of the members solo music. I do not have any expectations for them. This is just one song. If she is consistent with her multiple future works and continues to climb like ATP did, then you can claim she is the most successful (even more than Jungkook). All I care about is misinformation, that's it.
@ definitely NOT reading all that. But APT is VERY successful and way more successful than any other kpop female soloist. She’s second most successful after Jungkook so yeah. Apt is trending AND charting very very well not just trending that’s what sets it apart. It literally beat blackpink in so many achievements and apt will easily be most streamed bp solo in a few months. Don’t call that misinformation bc ur lazy to do research
I feel like when bts members collabs with korean artists their vocals blends the more and sounds more artistic like look at jin x wendy ,jhope xyunjin ,rm xpark ji yoon ,suga x iu and through these collbas with bts some of these underrated artists they give other's chance to acknowledge their talent i love this about them
In Lisa's case, if her releases kept up with the hype, the blatant use of connections would be overlooked. Even propel her to greater success and acclaim. But it isn't happening, because the actual content doesn't keep up with the hype. I loved Jin and Wendy's Heart on the window. It was a very fresh breath of air in kpop. About that Izna controversy, I agree with belift lab CEO's comments that every kpop (both boy and girl group) debut after new jeans has been affected by them. They brought about a shift in the type of music being released (more focus on easy listening) and concepts (less girl crush and more fresh). That isn't plagiarism. It is the same as every new gg doing girl crush after bp success and every other group singing about self love after success of bts love yourself series. Izna are definitely blatantly creating buzz. Otherwise it is difficult to get on kpop radar these days if you aren't from big agencies. Not their fault. Just recognize the marketing tactic when you see one.
@@sanainthesky racism for exactly what? Misogyny for exactly what? I agree she’s got her money and her own success, but the sudden appearance in many things where it would be more obvious to have other people participating is weird. I stand by that.
ICE ON MY TEETH = EYES ON MY TEETH is pretty much a diss track, there is a lot of word plays I am sorry those lyric songs don't translate thar part, many fans that follow them more closely know that reason why we always wait for videos from Handsome Sausages and ItsAndyandJas cause they pretty much explaim many of the things they do that can't be translated due to cultural references and slangs. The lyrics are not cringe, those lyric videos are uselless, Ateez is one of the few groups that is 100% korean, they always use stuff that is not easy to translate to english cause they are very witty. So I am sorry maybe you didn't know that but really there are no grills on the MV, so isn't rreally about it, right? About the style, their music follow their storyline, always did so we are getting the style that fit the current lore situation. I mean, I am fine with their songs, I really like their twists in many different genres. People assume Ateez has a certain style but their music change everytime they start a new series of albums. I am fine with that, they do all styles well.
2: Let’s be real-it’s not hard to see through WAKEONE Entertainment’s play here. They needed a way to get people talking about their new group, so what did they do? They went with an album design that’s practically a carbon copy of NewJeans’. It’s like they thought, "If we can’t beat the buzz, let’s just borrow it." And then, once people caught on and started calling them out, they went ahead and changed it. Classic move-push the boundaries just enough to get noticed, then backpedal once the heat’s on. Simple. 😂
Y’all bitter as hell Lisa is going after the triple threat line and it’s obvious. Triple threats can sing dance and act. We all know Lisa can dance amazing so that’s no problem. She is a pretty good singer but can improve, and we will see how her acting is but she is talented so she will probably be fine
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if Ateez had done yet another hard hitting high energy song like what they're known for, you would have again critisized THAT and claimed how they are so one note and incapable of creating a "new" sound. You'd have accused them of being generic boring or repetitive. I personally think Ice on my teeth gave us diversity/ variety
exactly the problem is people arent simply enjoying idol group songs as much as they used too or theyre being too picky with it and fhats ok i guess if they want to be that miserable. i genuinely enjoyed their cb. its totally my vibe
This. I remember they were complaining that Ateez are not versatile and all they did was "noise music". Now that Ateez has switched it up, they're complaining again. Humans are just insatiable you should know. The album is doing great on charts and otherwiss and I'm seeing lots of new real fans so, I don't think Ateez is doing anything wrong. Music is art, it's meant to evolve.
8. He's not here for the numbers but his fans and that's how you know his love for his fans , like man had 5000+ songs to choose from but choose to work with the sound which he loves the most ,rather than using popular sounds 💗
They tried to explain why they put her on that cover which made no sense actors works years perfecting their art just for some idol who has one role which has not even been out yet to get a cover it makes no sense that shes on the cover like what is she doing next to nicole and zendaya like please wait until she debuts on screen believe it or not she was choosen coz of connections its has nothing to do with popularity there a many established actors from asia who a making it right now but weren't featured now this just makes all the people who have worked years acting look dumb miss girl has had 1 one freaking acting role and all of the sudden shes on vanity fair what is this nonsense so please blinks or lilies keep quit coz she definitely doesnt deserve to stand next to this people so dont feel when people say it's coz of FA coz please explain why she deserves this cover without talking about her Instagram followers or delusional fans name one thing she did that deserves this vanity fair cover
I feel like the only member who's independently running her career is Jennie, her own label, no connections like this, just making music of her own style, no copy , no sampling, no payola, no ads, only real views with real viewers. just enjoying what she likes.
she definitely also has connections, they all have. its just that lisa turned it up to 100 so everyone else seems genuine in comparison lmao. i definitely got ads/recommendations for jennie when i dont follow her at all, and she had huge playlisting. but yeah, its not comparable to the mess lisa is creating.
Not only Jennie even Jisoo and Rosie too....I know Rosie doesn't have her own label but she is working hard and making music of her own,No promotion,No fake messages just fun music with real views and achievements 😊 jisoo is working hard on her acting career so i will not add her here 😊 Hope you understand and No hate to anyone just Love to everyone 🤗
@@Namjoons_Destroyed_Kitchen77 no ,rosé song has Been recommended by TH-cam to me uncountable times, it just randomly shows up on my feed ,she has sponsored TH-cam or her label has
1. lisa fans do you really think from all blackpink members like rosé & especially jennie with her style, lisa would be the one to randomly by "solo success" & popularity go on the victoria's secret show when there are (you gotta swallow this) singers who can really sing and srsly have an admiration for fashion? and stop with the global popularity thing, kpop idols, yes, have the big influence to market the brands but aren't taken as serious as having musical collabs with these brands on stage before. Bernard Arnauld has already donated 10mil for her crazy horse performance. nepo arnauld babe. time's article says she acts in white locus to "increase the show’s viewership in Asia, a region where WarnerMedia is actively trying to make inroads." yes influence, acting no.
Real. I’m not a Lisa hater or anything but her popularity is so forced it’s annoying and her stans are even worse. They’ll say Lisa is the greatest rapper in K-pop when J-hope, So-yeon and even Jennie is better than her. They say that she has the best voice when Rosé is literally singing live, hitting her high notes nearly perfect, they say that she’s a great actress when Jisoo has been acting longer than she has and is very good at it. They can’t accept that Others are better than her and start to push her down people’s throat and it doesn’t help that Lisa is pushing herself too just as much as her stans especially with her boyfriend’s money. it’s getting annoying now.
100% true. Even when the editor in chief came out to speak out why lisa was in the cover... all I had was that...... she said lisa is famous so we gonna put her on… Its a slap in a face for lisa and she doesnt even know it…
What do you think about THE BOYZ officially leaving IST Entertainment to join One Hundred? Also, there’s a chance they might change the group's name since the new company applied for a trademark (but it all depends on the agreement between IST and One Hundred).
for reals its actually so catchy. i think people just dont let themselves enjoy a different group anymore theyre almost becoming too nitpicky on this channel
9:44 never in my life did I think you talking about class:y I have never seen you make a video about a Nugu group, but I do agree classy is wasted potential
3. All of the things you said would make sense if the concept itself didn't have so much similarity to Ggum. I don't care if you break it down to seperate elements and then say "it was done before" when you have to look at the concept as a whole. You could say this abt anything. The overall picture shows a clear similarity between the two photoshoots. You cannot deny they have the same poses, colour palettes, hairstyle, gum elements etc. So Wavys interpretation of these elements is very close to Yeonjun's approach, where the other examples you show are clearly different and unique. That's how you can tell the difference between common theme and copy. And also, you are talking about Xenophobia against YangYang leaving out the ridiculous amount of hate Yeonjun got from Wavy fans too . Don't take sides now. Fanwars don't benefit anyone
If Lisa does not succeed, it cannot be said that it is not because she tried, because let's be honest, she has done much more promotions and bigger than her teammates and even so I think she has been overshadowed by them. In the future we will see what holds for her, but it is clear that if she wants to succeed in the west she has to improve her vocal quality asap.
she can try but girl has to have sometning noteworthy about her that sets her apart from say taylor ssift or sabrina carpenter, shes more influencer than anything else i dont really get what shes about not saying she cant do all that she wants and has her own version of success but is it really genuine effort of her own? i dont know anymore
I wish indian actress alia bhatt or Deepika Padukone or priyanka were there . They have contributed so much to acting and as a asian representation. Don't even talk about srk , he is bigger than those awards or oscars.
@@theCOMMENTofficial1 Priyanka Chopra would have made so much sense , I'm just so mad that they chose LISA over HER, someone who has actually done so much in the world of Hollywood AND bollywood.
I wanna ask how, coz tiktok is one of the most used apps and ofc kpop idols will promote their songs there and pple seem to have fun doing kpop tt challenges, so how has it ruined kpop songs?
I think if u don’t like illit rn you’re more than likely going to never like illit. it’s clear to me that this is their genre and I personally enjoy it, vocal chops lots of synth and heavy production, I find it fun and cute. I do wish their songs were longer and I really enjoy their youthful yet eerie aesthetic, overall I really enjoy illit
- I like the Jin album. (Wish the title was longer). The B-sides really shine and show so many layers. - I appreciate Ateez for constantly evolving their sound. Although I like this comeback, it doesn’t have the lasting power that I expect from them. Compare to the Treasure, Fever, and The World Series, I’m still trying to piece together the direction/lore in golden hour.
You don't ask my op but in my view it's the classic SM response for this like: "Shut up dogs here's Seunghan but not in RIIZE. I need to continue to have cash" the Bittersweet ending 💓
1 - I completely agree I don't know why LISA is there next to those amazing actresses when she has contributed nothing to the acting world as of yet. A more likely person would have been Jisoo given as she has actually starred in something (Even Jisoo though should not be on the cover vs other asian actresses and actors who have been working their asses off) LISA must have had a very good connection. 2- WAKEONE definitely took inspiration and copied the debut album of NEWJEANS for IZNA's debut album. I completely agree they were gonna go for the any press is good press vibe because how else can you explain suddenly changing an entire album and managing to get all the units out before the debut in less than a week. Something fishy is there. 3 - As much of a MOA as I am can we stop being delusional, YEONJUN didnt make the edgy concept at all and I have seen so many others in K-Pop use that type of "bad boy" vibe for their concepts (NCT DREAM) has a concept photo where they literally have mini characters and are in gum with graffiti so idk why MOA's are tripping when NCT fans can easily say YEONJUN copied NCT. They both were different vibes with school delinquent boy and Y2K streetwear. 4 - Im so sad about KISS OF LIFE's tour being canceled in Toronto because I was supposed to go see them and was actually so excited because they are one of the only girl groups I have really stanned since debut (besides BLACKPINK) so to hear just 5 hours before the show that it was cancelled and with no reason as to why was kind of heartbreaking. We call it the Toronto curse because it happens to a lot of artists when they come here but any explanation would have been nice. It definitely wasn't VISA issues because like you stated NATTY would not have been able to do the MONTREAL show tonight so im just wondering what happened. I know rightfully myself and a lot of Toronto KISSY's are very upset but we hope to see the girls soon. Toronto is always waiting for them 🇨🇦 5 - ILLIT's second mini album was honestly not it for me, some songs were okay but it did not have the groundbreaking impact that SUPER REAL ME did and I also think that the controversy with MHJ and NJ being entitled brats and bringing up plagiarism issues with ILLIT any chance they get hindered their success because it did happen at such a crucial time for them to be gaining support (their debut) but I hope their next comeback does better. 6 - No comment as I haven't heard the song yet! 7 - I am VERY excited to see ROSÈ's solo debut outside of YG she is doing something I am so ready for her to make a splash in the music scene again because after hearing those teasers, she is definitely going to be charting. I totally 100% agree with the Taylor x Avril x Olivia comparison, I have always stated that ROSIE is the Taylor Swift of K-Pop and I am so happy that she is staying true to herself & doing genre's that will make people feel nostalgic while also adding a updated touch. 8 - Haven't heard JIN's new album yet so I cannot comment! 9 - Never heard the comeback so I cannot comment either!
It's very telling how having a billionaire bf can get you ahead. It'll be interesting to see what he literally buys her into next. She's photoshopped into this. Those actual actors would all be so shocked to see her placed so prominently on the cover. (She only actually met the Dr Who actor) Okay, let's see what's next Mr Arnault for your overly ambitious, shameless gf, Lisa 😊
@@BellJohnson-p1p You may believe that I "sound slow", but I'm clearly more educated than you. If you *have* to reply, please check your spelling and grammar first.
@@maramac42 there's nothing wrong with my grammar all I put was HBO which is HBO MAX IF YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND because if you did you wouldn't be saying her fake bf did it for
lisa is totally piggybacking off her "boyfriend". its not even from her own genuine effort anymore and i think thats why there is such backlash, its like how in le sserra of all the trainees they couldve picked and they picked sakura who still cant even sing well. imagine how many others wanted lisas position?
7: My ranking of her snippets: "Toxic till the end": Although most of Taylor Swift's songs don't really resonate with me, I can't help but feel that the song feels so Taylor Swift coded. I KNOW I'm going to have this on repeat "2 years": Same as before. "Number one girl": WHO THE HELL BROKE THIS GIRLS HEART?! 😭😩😔 "Gameboy": I really love the beat. It's something you can bop too. "3AM: *cries* 😪😓😔 "Not the same": It's not my FAVOURITE one, but I love the instrumental. At first it kinda felt like an OST for a K-drama, but that changed immediately for me when she begun singing. It kinda felt like a SZA song idk anymore ¯\_(☯෴☯)_/¯
According to vanity fair, they put her in the issue cus they want her to be able to reintroduce herself. Not as a kpop idol but as an actress.I think it’s good and personally I don’t really care that much she is on it. People will claim its connections (which connections isn’t a bad thing… you need connections in this business) directly the addiction to say it’s her alleged boyfriend.
I agree she shouldn't have been on the magazine but they like to feature what they think is a new artist upcoming in the industry, so they consider lisa the next big thing to look out for that's why she's on the list. But I have to say it does seem to me like they just wanted an Asian face in the magazine, which is just sick and disgusting, but that's the industry wouldn't be the first time they did that
I think everyone can agree with the lisa one cause that's just hilarious, but the illit one is just you being a hater. Their discography is one of the most exciting and innovative in kpop right now. The songs may be on the shorter side, but they still manage to deliver a cohesive album that highlights each member's vocal strengths and performance abilities. I don't really understand the negative reactions to tracks like "Magnetic" and "Tick Tack." It's possible those songs just aren't everyone's cup of tea, but overall, Illit has crafted a sound that feels fresh and distinctive, and I think that’s something worth appreciating.
ain't it kinda weird saying jin shouldn't take a popular producer song,caused i wanted it all about jin sound,what does it even mean.like there are others song too.
I literally cried in joy when you mentioned answer being ateez best song. I really didn't love their newest releases compared to their older songs. Answer was such such good song...
For jin opinion running wild was kinda like a pt for the Astronaut so i can get where you coming for Heart on window is a masterpiece You should also check falling i think it fits a little more but tbh its amazing the lyrics seems very personal (as jin explained its about his irl situation) but overall happy as a debut album is amazing am sure as time goes we will see jin finding his sound just like other members did 😊
Saying that the concept is generic and used by many is okay but that's literally deviating from the plot. The fact that it was all used together and not scattered shouts how much ggum was on the moodboard. Even if they wanted to go that way then why specifically pink ggum, ggum on the shoes, or even the pose everything together? The way SM stans were so on hating yeonjun when ggum was out, literally sending de@th threats but no one gave an eye on that. If you watch ggum's behind of making, yeonjun was part of everything from lyrics, choreo, fits, sets etc. He poured in his heart, soul, blood, sweat and everything but the amount of hate he received was heart breaking. kpop stans don't even give the same amount of energy to a criminal. So, moas defending ggum was logical as if good boy gone bad, lovesong and now ggum are all coincidences? Mind you none of the moas were saying anything about the idol or group but the company only and then their words get twisted and made the main villain. sm should hire new creative teams if they are getting short of ideas now
On November 15, Radhika Jones, the Editor-In-Chief of US media Vanity Fair, appeared on “CBS Morning Plus” and discussed the site’s 2025 “The Hollywood Issue,” an annual spread celebrating Hollywood’s biggest names. Here, the editor mentioned Lisa’s appearance on the Hollywood feature, and explains why the decision to include Lisa was made. In particular, when asked how she made decisions for which stars to include, Radhika Jones answered, “Take someone like Lisa, who was a huge star in K-Pop world, um, less well known in Hollywood or with a Hollywood audience, but she’s going to be on the White Lotus in the new season. And that, you know, people love that show. So this is our way of saying. Lisa’s incredibly famous, but we’re going to introduce her in a new context, and it’s nice to be able to create that mix.” We love to put those kinds of people together and I feel like when you have a mix of people together, in different stages of their career, it lends itself to moments of discovery. You can discover somebody new to you, but you can also rediscover someone you thought you knew”, Vanity Fair’s Editor-In-Chief also added, effectively defending Lisa against criticisms that her appearance on the edition was “unfair” Funny thing is people try too hard to prove she is nugu idol Before met with her rumoured Bf..she is the one who beat 3,999 contests and selected under yg by her own HARDWORK and skills,she trained for almost 3-4 years before Official debut,im the small age moved from one country to another,Faced so many r@c!st comments She shine out of another members because of her own chiasma,stage presence and dance skills and become THE MOST POPULAR FEMALE IDOL in kpop,a foreigner who ruled the kpop,In 2022 she got her 1st international awards(2MTVs)Her solo lalisa and money was Major global hit on charts and made so many records,A Kpop soloist with most Guinness world records!!so how suddenly people act like she is nugu idol who need connections to Grow her career afterall People Try too hard to bring down sucessful womens!!
9: No tell me their own company ain't promoting them enough?! WHY TF IS IT SO HARD TO DO THAT?! These girls are obviously very talented and have huge potential. Such a shite company 😑😑
Rosé is literally feeding blinks, so far most of the songs I’m liking, I liked rockstar and new woman and Jennie’s mantra has been living in my head but I’m so excited for what Jennie will give.
5: I genuinely don’t get why you want a deeper meaning to the music you’re listening to have a deeper meaning some people genuinely like simple music and that’s okay. Most people who listen to K-pop don’t even know the meaning behind what it is
songs are just for fun i think this channel owner is deeply miserable inside and picks apart everything they dont like too much i mean are they even fan for the idols music anymore? no. they should move on if thats the case
1. In a room full of popular actors Lisa is definitely misplaced, BUT to go so far and claim her (alleged) billionaire boyfriend used his connections to get her there is a reach!
Lisa is huge and tries to market herself to the western industry, so it makes sense she would accept that offer.. People just hate successful women..
The hate on twt is so so obvious 💀💀 Like imagine being so pressed about LISA laughing that you gotta make tweets mocking her for it LMFAOO embarrassing 🤡🤡
sorry but when has she shown interest in acting? go on the cover of any other magazine then what is she going to do next? football? girl doesnt even play football or act
@@randomuser-nt9if she's literally the main cast of the TWL series, the editor of the issue has explained why she's on the cover. She has expressed multiple times in the past that she wants to try acting. Idk what more you want her to do.
TICK TACK is such a FUN and their second EP was definitely better than the first. ILLIT music may not just be for like BOYNEXTDOOR and that’s honestly fine
9. The fact that they comeback with LITERALLY 2 songs after how long? Idk anymore, it show how little they care about CLASS:y. Like so many contestant of MTG are doing so much better than them, like for example Yooyeon and Jiwoo of tripleS, Yunseo and Inhye (Hue) are in BADVILLAIN, Minami is in Rescene, I would also say Suhye of Madein is doing better than them. They are just wasting these girls talent, cause CLASS:y members have a lot of potential.
Same, I like Cherish more. Tick tack doesn’t have any substance. Seems like created out of nowhere using AI and make it sound catchy to gain attention.
@@user-riahmesphere idk why they named it that and didn't do a single thing with grillz or at least tooth gems. i don't even remember anyone wearing a chain or something since they said "ice on my tee," too. it's more disappointing because i'm pretty sure they do know what it means, wrote that dentist line first, and then forced themselves to write a whole song around it so they didn't have to shelve it. the tennis tennis thing felt like they were forcing themselves to make the first line work.
@@user-riahmesphere You are a casual listener who takes a simplistic approach when consuming Ateez material which is a pity. "Ice on my Teeth" is a play on words "Eyes on my Teeth" (notice how they drag the words; typical Ateez tip off that something "other" is up) and doesn't really involve grillz or black slang culture. When confronting Ateez please remember that they are proudly Korean and their lyrics are rooted in Korean culture rather than western culture. Only thing that is for sure geared toward attracting western interest is the beat and catchy chorus and the cinematic quality of the mv. When it comes to lyric meaning and symbolism scattered throughout the mv, that's going to have a heavy Korean slant and attached to the lore. Atiny respect this and know that a deep dive is required to really know and appreciate what is going on. If ever you are interested in the not so hidden rhyme/reason production, there are plenty of Atiny (check comment sections) and Korean based reactors around who can help. Just so you know, Ateez produced 2 music videos for the single "Matz" where Hongjoong and Seonghwa show that they very well know what grillz are and how they are used...again lyrics and both mvs have other meaning that what your international eyes and ears perceive.
3: moas are mainly annoyed bc if this were the other way around sm stans would have no problem yelling plagiarism especially since sm stans pulled the plagiarism card for less
2. That was the most obvious rage bait I’ve ever seen 4. I’m praying they don’t do this for NY 5. I’m actually surprised that this is the b side the general public liked the most. I thought IYKYK was more deserving of a music video 7. Saw the notification for her Instagram live and I couldn’t even watch it because I was at work 🥲
exactly they pickapart comebacks faster than going through used tissues without giving themselves enough chances to like what groups are doing its so toxic because its not letting their audience say anything different.
I don’t like these comments saying that Lisa got her spot on the Hollywood Reporter cover because of her billionaire boyfriend- misogyny looks ugly on you. When YG stopped giving Blackpink music promotions and had them flying out to every European fashion show, party, and red carpet to rub shoulders with wealthier, more famous people THAT’S where she made her connections. The European luxury fashion industry is the meeting ground of multiple entertainment industries- actors, film producers, western music artists, athletes, politicians, businessmen, wealthy socialites, influencers, etc, and the three members who speak English had the biggest advantages to network. Blackpink members largely boosted their international fame by establishing them as fixtures in the European luxury scene (because it definitely wasn’t through their barely existent music and lackluster performances that garnered them attention considering they were mostly inactive as a group for years at a time) and it’s now the blueprint of many 4th and 5th Gen Big 3 + HYBE idols today. Should she be on the cover? No. But let’s not act as if she NEEDED a man to get her there. It also remains to be seen if this PR stunt will get people to ask “who’s this girl? I want to know more” or if they’ll ignore her. Getting people to even ask about her identity is great PR. You may think it’s sneaky, but she’s clearly trying to breakout as a star in the west and this could boost her visibility. Even negative posts that asks “why is Lisa there?” is marketing her FOR FREE.
1. I'm not taking any of y'all seriously, The editor of the issue herself gave the CLEAR explaination as to why Lisa is there but yeah sure call her a nepo baby or wtv the fuck you want. The tweets showing their racism and misogyny is funny too.
The people who have the idea to call LISA was thinking: "We need to sell more copies of the magazine so we call LISA" and even if was her bf she can be called Nepo GF
@@miusy0924I get that yall mad cuz lisa not actress yet but they should be mad at HBO who sent and sponsored lisa to come there😭 they really thought about sending lisa to get more attention and you guys really paid attention to this😭😭
@@miusy0924 calling her a nepo gf becuz of her UNOFFICIAL bf is crazy. She herself denied the relationship rumors yet y'all still keep riding her ass with that lame excuse. You ppl act like its impossible for a rich and influential artist like Lisa can land herself this opportunity. Plus HBO themself have made it clear that they were the ones who sent lisa there and not her alleged bf's connections but SURE! whatever helps kppopies sleep at night.
Many of y’all in the comments lack information on the industry and it shows. Talking about paying your way and connections is funny cus your faves ALSO do that. People have connections and use them. That’s not a bad thing. She trying to get an audience that’s not just blinks. She also seems to be trying to go after the triple threat area. I think it’s smart. Even y’all talking bad about this is still giving her publicity which helps her.
It is literally taking someone else's spot. it is unfair, it proves she has connections for it. Put yourself in a similar situation where you apply for a job and have all the qualifications, you have done a lot to get it and suddenly someone without any experience hop on it and take it because of being someone's relative or something like that.
@musicinterest-dibthat applies to most of the industry. If you mad at Lisa be mad at a lot of this other A-listers too. Also I can put myself in that situation. Yea I would be hurt but I’ll move on and get my own connections. I like fashion. If I have a connection that can get my stuff on Vogue I would use it in seconds without a thought. If I had connections that got me on fashion week I would use it without a thought. Let’s be honest too, you would as well. If you had a connection that could help your dream career you cannot tell me you wouldn’t use it. Plus everyone else is using theirs too. Life isn’t fair. I like many actors and actresses who should be stars cus they are amazing but it doesn’t happen. I will still enjoy seeing them no matter they are on vanity or not.
Are u justifying the wrong thing since many do that?? Don't u think it is wrong! I'm not talking about Lisa here, I don't really know the story behind so I can't comment. But the way u say it 😢 It's wrong, cause u r stealing someone's spot who deserves that.
@musicinterest-dibNothing about careers are fair. Base off your example of applying for a job. Let’s choose a job for example. Let’s say I’m applying to be a lawyer and I have all the qualifications. That alone is an advantage. That would mean I had the privilege of having proper education and using it. What about the person also applying who doesn’t have an education but still could be a good lawyer? Wouldn’t that make me just as bad as the people who got in with relatives? Or is it using my resources? If you say it makes me just as bad I want you to tell me if you have a highschool diploma or a college education. If yes and you applied to jobs with that you are saying you are just as bad. All because you used your resources
@@Maazhimi I never said it’s right. I said it happens and everyone is privileged in some type of way over another. You will not always be the best there is always someone better than you so whenever you do well in any career you are doing better than someone more skilled. You got to get over it
How can you be on a cover for your acting skills before your acting debut happened?? It’s like getting on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine as a rising singer before any of your songs have been released.
Paid the way....
@@caz3107 couldn't answer the question could you. 💀
And out there Lilies and Blinks trying to convince us that this girl got a chance to perform in Victoria Secret because of her insane popularity, she won best Kpop award while her songs aren't kpop because of her popularity, getting a rolling stone interview when none of her songs did well with critics because she's successful, now she's a great actress because she's yet to make her acting debut in a big show and she's got potentials plus exploring like WTH, even blackpink didn't recieve such coverage or even her own biggest hit Money did not recieve such welcome, if some normal person believing this then they aren't normal anymore. She's clearly using connections through her bf. Did no one really find it odd when she suddenly stepped out of Celine and is now a Louis Vitton ambassador. For someone who's so innocent she's snatching someone else's spotlight.
Y'all act as if Lisa isn't famous at all. It's one thing to say she shouldn't be on the cover and it's another to throw away all her hard work and attribute it to someone else just because they may be dating. Everything you've mentioned she could definitely achieve on her own without her alleged bf. It's how agents and labels work. Jimin won Kpop without a kpop song too. I don't see y'all calling it out for anything. She has sold out fan-meets with large capacities but y'all want to claim you don't see how she gets deals and opportunities. Did he force or lure those fans to buy thise tickets? No... It was Lisa's own fame and capacity.
Just admit that you're jealous to see a women being successful by herself when you can't even show your face. Lol
@@justalittlefun5885 truuuuuue
@@Lia-yu6qc in Hollywood she is not known!! She hasn’t done remarkable things in kpop and not even in US charts . She is popular of curse but nobody knows her. Not even those ppl who attended victoria secrete ….,. Is paid. Just bc she has famous friends that doesn’t make her stablished in American industry.
@@yomarysanchez1808 She has achieved a lot in Kpop. There's a reason she was known as the most successful soloist before Jk broke her records and ppl still aim to have their favs surpass her and some idols even pick her for their role model. Not being known.... what are your authorities? Many models knew her and these gigs are usually secured by labels to promote their artists too and she is signed in partnership with one. Many celebs eg Cardi who attended knew Lisa and had even mentioned years before that Money was one of her favs songs. She has been attenind functions and brand promos for different stuff since what...2017, 2018 and brushing shoulders with some people in Hollywood. Hell she works with Zendaya and Anne Hathaway for Bvlg. Who's to say producers and directors can't know her from such events and the globalization of kpop. Because when it comes to medis, bts and bp esp bp in terms of promotion are more visible to the western media. Nobody knows her is a very big stretch. Her numbers in the US are good though she's yet to breakthrough there, again, which is why promotions through such gigs exist, she's just starting and people have to start somewhere and friens are always part of connections. I'm starting to notice a pattern in her hate train that ppl don't want to see this girl make waves and succeed. They had low expectations for heer and hate that she's actually doing smth for herself which is what has bred so much resentment.
All those Asian actresses that they could have been there and there’s Lisa………. Hello!!
Agreed
seriously there are so many talented asian actresses like cmon hello there's india too in asia
So, I wasn't the only one who found this awful!!
Which famous Asian actress who's been in American movies are you talking about?
I'm honestly fed up with Hollywood 💀 it's always ppl with no experiences that has the best place in projects just bc they either have money or connections or both. But what makes me even more annoyed is her obsessed fans always there to overrhype Lisa even when she doesn't deserve it esp they overhyped her at the VS Fashion Week performance where she didn't sing for shit but still get praised as "Queen of The world" or "angelic voice" like- 🤡. And honestly these behaviors are a big slap to actual artists who work their ass off and those who truly deserve the best opportunities and all these crazy amount of supports
exactly its interesting how she and jisoo seem to be getting the most out of not really having a lot of experience. even jisoo got solo before rose
I think people need to understand that saying Lisa shouldn’t have been on that cover isn’t hate at all. She hasn’t made her acting debut yet, therefore she isn’t classed as an actress. Even with that small role, she is still a Kpop star and not a full time actor like the others that the magazine was supposed to cover. Yes I’m happy for her but still think other actresses could have and should have had that opportunity instead.
Agreed blinks get so offended when anyone says a simple fact which is that lisa doesn't deserve to be up there
Totally agreed other actress deserved it more
she's promoting, that is why she's on the cover .-.
@@babyggukie3580 with all do respect girl, she could have done that with literally any other magazine. The Vanity Fair magazine is for actors/actresses who have *already* made an impact in the FILM industry to be appreciated. It’s not for promoting an upcoming and/or NEW actress.
Adding Lisa to this is great for HER, but makes zero sense and highlights her away from the others on the cover.
She is no longer a kpop singer, but is working as a Thai singer in her hometown of Thailand. What kind of kpop singer is she? Where are the kpop songs she is releasing these days??
1. Definition of PAYED HER WAY , like it's already bad that she used connection and stuff to get there but her fans saying it's her popularity who got her there needs to be studied, it's like shoving your popularity into people's throat.
Frr
I agree even tho I am a blink
@@elesyeen Blinks are like bunnies don't like that people call them out, don't accept the reality and throw a tantrum
or maybe vanity fair knew that regardless of how many acting roles lisa has had she has a ton of fans who will buy this magazine because of her it’s not that deep
@@nnnn-sc2im yes, it IS this deep. this magazine still has credibility and shouldn't throw, and usually doesn't, every other popular influencer on the cover. some people actually care about these last places of artistic integrity and promotions. i guarantee you the magazine is doing fine on its own and did not need lisas popularity for some sale push. the audiences dont cross at all. please stop downplaying or excusing shtty shady behavior. we know the grammys can be shady, but that doesn't excuse it or make it less bad if they were to give a grammy to the fckn skibidi toilet just because its popular rn and would trend on social media. as an art lover, this level or excuses and apathy is depressing to see.
1: She definitely must've had a good and strong connection with someone rich to be on that because how ELSE did she get to feature on there? Honestly, seeing Lisa with all those big-name Hollywood actors felt kind of strange-most of them have been in the film industry way longer than her, so it just seemed a bit out of place.
you can just say her french bf no need to act all coy
FA on the way
Honestly, almost everyone is saying that it is because of FA… but to be honest, it couldn't fully be FA- she definitely has many hidden connections rather than just FA. But sadly, it has always been like this. Or at least, mostly. People who have more resources, connections and fame all get pushed into the front lines even when they don't deserve it. Whilst the others who don't have much resources and connections as them are forced to walk behind them. It's wrong and unfair but the truth.
Yeah it's kinda unfair and it isnt deserving sorry if this sounds bitter but it's the truth
Actually it is fa because he is the son of one of the richest people in the world. All of hollywood are wearing his brands.@Sat0ru_Gojo_.
I don’t know how can they not understand that showing down Lisa everywhere it is not the way, she is already known, she just needs better management
1. That what i was saying! Like i'm not saying lisa isn't famous but seeing her in that picture with zendaya felt so off. She hasn't made an acting debut but is already getting praised for her acting skills?! Like girl where? You can't even use "The White Lotus" to judge her acting cause it isn't even released. I feel they should have AT LEAST waited for it to drop before posting that pic and her fans saying "Oh you guys are just jelous😒" like no its clear as day shes using connections
i must indeed be blind asf because i dont remember seeing lisa act ever.
@@-Fourth_Cat she can’t even form a whole sentence on interviews even though she speaks English……
@@yomarysanchez1808 i dont think its a matter of her english or lack thereof i think its matter of her wanting to be black girl, she just comes across as being dimwitted not having much ways of making a conversation interesting enough. says the word like so much that she clearly is trying too hard to be interesting when shes just an airhead as a lot of influencers are that way. theres no difference between her and a regular social media star. they couldnt even describe how they go about recording a song
@@randomuser-nt9if Don't let her fans see your comment or they might dox your ass 😂 😂
Lillies are STILL gonna say that "Y'all just jealous of how successful she is "
maybe cuz they are? there's no need to be so pressed it's just a magazine cover
@@sanainthesky Right
1. Exactly why Lisa is there. It's not even released yet.
I thought it was a known fact that she is using her bf you really think global citizen and VS will have someone like her who can't even sing Fred payed her way
Thank you for acknowledging she can't sing ....like...
I hate when Lillies go"Her mic is ON !! You can hear her breathing" yes I can ,but I can also hear bad vocal techniques and cracks in her voice .
She CAN'T sing,she can dance well ,and rap is good (acc to k-pop standards ,Western rap? She can't compare at all)
I really don't get WHY she is on that cover like it don't make sense wth-
@@fairiesarefair her fans/blinks really keep getting more and more delusional, its insane to see... i gave her the benefit of the doubt and watched some performances, its so obvious she's barely singing like 4 words at a time and lipsyncing the rest. i almost would excuse it if she had great dances, but this alleged "dance machine" is not doing anything interesting either, its all arm movements and body rolls, model poses or literally sitting down. its such a disconnect to what actual great artists and performers do... my god. its like she only cares about looking pretty and nothing else. and sadly thats all her fans care about as well.
Is it confirmed that he is her boyfriend at the end of the day they knew exactly why they put her there it is a company after all and honestly who cares? It would have been great if someone maybe from bts was invited.
It’s not that deep so maybe the company wanted a change we will complain as if they are going to pay us.😅
@taetaeoggi1947 why would it better if BTS was invited? Nobody from BTS has acted in a Hollywood movie,It literally would have made more sense if I saw Jennie in this magazine because she atleast DID star in a series.
Was waiting for y'all to realize a lot of things Lisa has been getting through lately is cuz of her alleged bf. It makes the actual hardworking ppl feel like clowns
Frr like there are way talented actors out there but they didnt make it all bc they dont have connections
Nah y’all just fucking misogynistic and that’s ok
you guys acting like the only reason she’s been getting success is because of her bf is reeking of misogyny
@@nnnn-sc2im you right , the reason this famous k-pop idol ( I know I know ,she isn't k-pop anymore BUT ,until NOW she is still only know as k-pop Lisa so) that still yet to show a single acting role , definitely got on this prestige magazine that only shows establish and popular actors because she deserves it and not because of her BILLIONAIRE bf with tons of family connections in the industry ( some that even money can't buy)
Bf? Isnt she with rosalía? She gives me bi vibes
i hope her fans will understand this. its normal to use connections *to an extent,* but lisa's appearances throughout this ENTIRE year are inorganic, forced and bought. its a shame she chooses to buy her way to the top instead of earning praise and credibility in honest ways. shes literally marketing herself as a FRAUD. shes a glorified influencer, and these moves make her look even less credible. as an artist, its frustrating to see millionaires just throwing money at you, forcing you to look at them. she hasnt proven herself in any of the categories shes claiming to be 'killing it' in, and accepting her money (freds money more likely) is just exposing these magazines/outlets for being untrustworthy (we already know the industrys fcked, but they usually dont show it so openly.) i need fans to understand that this comment is NOT hate, and that if lisa wouldnt be happily using these shady AF tactics, i wouldnt write a negative comment about her to begin with.
a certain bts member is also starting to feel like a fraud even if his solo songs do well chart wise but its not a popularity contest and they dont seem to realise this. popularity will only get them so far even with connections. that and the fact lisa and even jennie are getting a bit too careless with their lack of underwear choice i mean just give them a strip club tbh. she can have attention but got nothing to show for it
im sorry lisa highlighted with ACTORS. ACTORS as if in acting in tv/film to earn a living. name a show where lisa was acting, SCREAMSS loud and clear nepotism
It's showing NEPO all day long. This is embarassing for her. I thought she's better than this but nvm. T_T
@@fluffylonjini5486 this is all idol groups are nowadays, that or theyre luring kids in at very young ages more than ever before. idols my age often arent skilled enough but theres also lack of age variation at the same time. yet there is also nepo babies including other top groups who get everything handed too them especially with the likes of tiktok aiding to groups hardly having to do much compared to say before tiktok era. i really dont even know what happened to blackpink cause they started off well and i guess the fame went to their heads and they fell way off the rails. yet give them solos and they either eat it up or rely on lipsynch and twerking to get noticed. so i think its only fair to judge them based on the fact so many idols come from wealth and connections and some idols really need to admit that its not for them.
1: Atp I'll not be shocked if she wins a Grammy or an Oscar cuz of her connections 💀
Same💀
true
Bro frr but I dont want that bc she clearly doesnt deserve it (sorry if this sounds too bitter but it's the truth)
@@sanazamir8341 what you said is true
She wasn’t nominated for Grammy so it’s no longer possible
She hasn't had one role in Hollywood, mean while their are countless actor/actress who go years/decades and still can't get it. Her fans and her are crazy. I won't even watch the new season of White Lotus now.
💀 you’ll survive
then don't watch then
I really don’t understand how Lisa is there in the cover. She’s popular, I know, but to put her in a column WITH all of these esteemed actors and actresses really doesn’t make sense. Girl the only “acting” she has done is for her MVs💀 and I don’t think that justifies enough to be featured in such a column. Man the things money and in her case, a rich as well as influential boyfriend can do🙏🏼
i mean if shes hinting at what i think shes hinting at girl needs a reality check even if it is just a cover image. i dont get why shes on it what she do this time?n
Green eyed french guy working hard
ok misogynist
😭😭😭😭
the green-eyed French guy helped her to get there💀💀
💀
😭😭😭😭 real af
the one under the twilight right 😭
A song she didn’t write
Green-eyed zionist* French guy 💀
Fans act as if Lisa being on that cover is normal!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! It is all connections and she has taken someone else's spot here. Like Timothee for example. ALL THAT I CAN SAY IS THAT IN LIFE WE WILL MEET PEOPLE WHO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY WE WANTED IN A JOB OR ELSE AND IT IS BECAUSE OF CERTAIN CONNECTIONS OR MONEY. And trust me, it won't feel good. - said from a blink myself
No but it's clear as water it's all about her boyfriend's influence bcz I haven't seen her in Hollywood even as a side role!!?😭😂
Heart on the window by jin x wendy is best collaboration of the year periodt.
Exactly
Ikr, I was so into "spot" and thought that this is by far the best collaboration this year until seokjin dropped that masterpiece with Wendy 😭
REAL!! I am in love with this song, the album is incredible and this song is wonderful.
It's just so beautiful...
WHYYYYY? WHY CAN'T THERE BE AN MV FOR IT???????
They sound and look so good together!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed. It's one of my favourite songs. Favourite collab of the year. Jin and Wendy compliment each other very well. And the album is so good !!
Lisa is everywhere lol...her songs are not even good yet she was in VS like wtf?? & now this 😭😭 i know she is popular & talented but is she deserving?? Hell noo
funny when blackpink was on tour you guys said that she would be the only one with a stable career and that she deserves it the most and now that she is getting success as a solo artist you guys hate her again💀
its just so fake all around. yes she's popular, but not THIS popular. she's talented, but not that talented. i mean wherein lies her talent? its not singing. its barely rapping. she's not even dancing much, its all the same recycled moves and hand gestures. im failing to see the talent lately, its all just noise and money. its absolutely undeserving all around. she could've earned respect by working honestly, but alas, she did not want to.
@@nnnn-sc2im jfc stop spamming the same nonsensical comment everywhere, go love her, no one's stopping you from brown nosing
i agree, i guess this is her version of being an influencer without needing to actively use social media to promote anything imparticular if her names or face is on it it'll be a "success" whether its deserving i dont know about that i feel like she was just using blackpink to give her a leg up same with the others
@@nnnn-sc2im bc when she was in blackpink she was the best performer so people were hyping her up but now that she's alone her popularity doesn't rely on comparison
1. LISA on the cover is like: "Look at me I didn't even debut as an actress but I have influence so I'm here 😁";
3. The "gum" aesthetic is the classic reusable concept that anyone can do, you just can't say: "Oh someone copy my original gum delinquent concept";
5. Personally I liked Tick-Tack more than Cherish(My Love) because of the video game kind sound.
As a moa I am kinda disappointed in moas this Time our Fandom has really gotten more toxic 😞
i mean i get the obv similarity to nj's concept but to give them the credit for making the "youthful" concept big is cringe too.
I think Lisa should be focusing on establish a musical identity before doing anything else…
true but she doesnt care about music so i doubt thats her priority tbh, she just wants to be famous any way she can it seems
i wish some of the idols would just say they dont care and want the attention cause atp shes not hiding the fact she dont care
3:37 THANK YOU OMG kpop copying allegations are so stupid bc kpop literally takes from western music, trends, fashion and even aesthetics so nobody isn’t copying anyone and nobody owns any concept
people are still in denial that she's using her bfs WEALTH for all of this?
because she's not HBO WAS THE ONE WHO SENT HER THERE YALL MAD AT HER FOR WHAT
She and tyla have god level pr teams. Both of them are very new, have somewhat avg talent although tyla has a bit more, and are misrepresenting entire genres. Tyla winning all the afrobeats awards when she is so new, her music is mid tier and her genre isn't even afrobeats is indicative of how good her pr team is. Same with Lisa winning kpop awards for her new songs that are not even sung in korean or by a korean. This is also indicative of how America loves everything watered down so its not too "ethnic" including how the person looks. Not too black or Asian.
But I feel like right now, tyla is more popular than Lisa, so it kinda makes sense for tyla to be everywhere.
@@Purple_dolphin-m1xThe reason why she's popular is because of the reasons stated above. Same with Lisa. It's PR machines pushing you to like their product.
The only bp member i was interested in is Rosé. I can't wait for her album!
Fr shes the only real artist in bp she dances all the time with all energy, sings live, doesnt need to show skin for success❤
Blackpink members: Look at my smooth, snow-white skin. Look at me, I'm wearing next to nothing twerking on stage. Look at my hundreds of backup dancers, making me look like I'm a great dancer. Hear my singing, it's auto-tune and lipsynced.
I have two members of the group where I expect their album and one is clearly Rosè and with this comment I am not saying that the rest are less or the sound and musical direction they decided to choose or because some are more sensual and have confidence in themselves to show it, I mention this because there are some commenting all kinds of things by this act, which is offended and scandalized because it shows a little skin. 🫠
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaVwhat are you so offended by? dont like them, dont watch or listen or hate like this.
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaVur honestly so disrespectful
3: LITERALLY 💯 LIKE COME ON, that pose has been around forever-idols have been doing it for years. It’s hardly original at this point. But naturally, MOAs couldn’t resist jumping in to defend, like it was some groundbreaking move unique to Yeonjun.
girl if it was just the pose no one would care. But it's all the things combined together that makes the photoshoots look so similar, it's enough to have eyes to see it.
And yes Yeonjun's concept was unique, that's why nobody could say it looked similar to something else when it was released. If you look at the elements separetely of course you'll find gum or red hair in other photoshoots, but not all at once, like his interpretation.
Imagine if Yeonjun did something like this after Wavy, everyone would yell plagiarism.
No one is getting on SM bc of the pose… it’s the entire thing in general🤔
moas are mainly annoyed bc if this were the other way around sm stans would have no problem yelling plagiarism especially since sm stans pulled the plagiarism card for less
They took this for black culture also a lot of groups have been doing the gold/gem teeth this year .
5: Also, on the topic of ILLIT, apparently LLIT’s Creative Director has Sued Min Hee Jin. How many times has she been sued? Anyone kept count?
Too many times for anyone to defend her.
Around 15 lawsuits from what I've heard, now 16 ig 💀
sue her as much as possible
I am totally a huge Ateez fan and I really enjoyed Work and VERY much enjoyed Ice On My Teeth (especially that music video oh my god ❤). I can definitely see why a lot of people wouldn't like it though. It is a big switch from their old stuff which got me into them in the first place. I was thinking about it and I realized the big change in sound is partially because they are probably going for that more laid back energy like you said, and partially because of their lore/story. Their "diary version" albums basically have short story novella like things in each and it talks about what is going on in their lore which goes along well with why they sound like they do now. However; I can also see the pitfalls of that considering not everyone can be as invested as big Ateez fans and may just want to listen to them recreationally instead of having to keep up with like, the last ten seasons of episodes so to speak haha. Either way; I am excited to see where Ateez goes from here. Love your videos as per usual.
oh come on people like to look down on ateez for being small agency group or they just mad their faves dont have that much talent
Dev Patel is all the asian representation that was needed tbh
Not stirring hate but for a second I thought if this was someone like jennie or wonyoung or Yuna or even ahyeon
They would have been shredded to pieces by the same Lisa fans (not talking about her actual admirers but more like people obsessed with her)
When there are Oscar winning actress and amazing actresses who contributed to Hollywood then why Lisa?
If it was related to performing or kpop then no body would've said a thing
A different opinion or criticism doesn't mean hate
Just like you who is doing this same thing as (Jennie or others bias)you claimed Lisa fans are doing 🤭okey dragging in her like how her(a/to you )obsessed fans doing to others like jennie, wonyoung etc. Nothing different except some added pity /victimizing towards you fav😌
Not any hate towards any one just opinion. Just read comments you will know how much she getting hates too like others
@messenger042 None of the idols I mentioned are my biases...I only stan seventeen
Lisa has her fan base which justifies anything but others doesn't have THESE many obsessed fans who will go any lengths
And yes it's not their fault or Lisa's fault for having a fan base
But these kind of fans are not good for any idol cause they develop a parasocial relationship with them thinking they're a victim and needed to be saved or pitifully stanning or even thinking they'll date them or they'll love them personally
I'm not saying the hate she gets is any less but this time the criticism is highly valid
i personally love tick tack
Me too ❤
1. Idk how she got the chance to be in the same frame as the most iconic actors out there lisa didnt even make her acting debut and she didnt even work in the hollywood and she is already there lol what a joke and dont get me started on her fans defeding this by bringing her hardwork in the industry like tf yall dont get the point she might have worked hard in the kpop industry but not in the Hollywood this is a joke this might sound bitter but hollywood wont even pay attention to her as she isnt that famous to be featured in vanity fairs hollywood issue so idk how she made it up there
8. Running wild wasnt ny fav either it was an average song but the other songs were pretty good especially heart of the window wendy and jin both slayed
Im glad that Rosie is releasing music. Her theme is needed in this kpop age of "following the trends". Absolutely genius
Lol Lisa's sugar daddy is working so hard😂😂😂
kpop stans never beating the misogynist allegations
i'm so excited for Rosie, she has always been my fav in blackpink bc of how artistic she is. she's now the most successful kpop soloist and I hope her album does really good.
Same i fully support her
The most successful female soloist or in general? Because if female soloist, i believe thats Lisa. If in general regardless of gender, then thats 1. Jungkook, 2. Jimin then possibly 3. Lisa (maybe there is someone else before her). BTW, I'm not trying to sh!t on your parade, I'm just sick of kpop stans spreading misinformation. You know how fast misinformation spread especially since kpop stans tend to never do their research. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@SEFIKURAGAL Lisa is not more successful than Rosie anymore, just bc she had her moment with money (which trended by luck bc of squid game) doesn't make her this untouchable kpop soloist and what I said isn't misinformation rosè literally still charting top 10 on all charts. And she's STILL on hot 100, still no. 1 on bb200 for 3 weeks and def next week too. Charted better than blackpink and the list can literally keep going. So yes she is the most successful after Jungkook. Not even a fan of bp but you guys have always underestimated her and she finally proved y'all jenlisa solo stans wrong.
@Bangch4nslaptop I am not a fan of BP at all. I actually dislike them. My problem is that you claimed she was the most successful K-pop soloist, which she is not. And I said (Lisa is possibly 3rd because I wasn't sure). Lisa is not untouchable because her brand is weak (a strong fanbase, but a weak solo discography. Charting doesn't mean anything if the music is trash. Aka weak brand). "Lisa is not more successful than Rosie anymore, just bc she had her moment with money (which trended by luck bc of squid game)." That same rule can apply to Rosie. Just because she is having her moment with ATP doesn't mean she is more successful (which trended because it's a collaboration with Bruno Mars). I wouldn't have had an issue with your original state if you didn't say that she was the most successful soloist when, in fact, she is not. I did look it up, and the most results would be BTS members (mostly 1. Jungkook, Jimin, V) and BP with Lisa and possibly Rosie. Rosie has nothing to prove to me because I don't listen to BP or any of the members solo music. I do not have any expectations for them. This is just one song. If she is consistent with her multiple future works and continues to climb like ATP did, then you can claim she is the most successful (even more than Jungkook). All I care about is misinformation, that's it.
@ definitely NOT reading all that. But APT is VERY successful and way more successful than any other kpop female soloist. She’s second most successful after Jungkook so yeah. Apt is trending AND charting very very well not just trending that’s what sets it apart. It literally beat blackpink in so many achievements and apt will easily be most streamed bp solo in a few months. Don’t call that misinformation bc ur lazy to do research
I feel like when bts members collabs with korean artists their vocals blends the more and sounds more artistic like look at jin x wendy ,jhope xyunjin ,rm xpark ji yoon ,suga x iu and through these collbas with bts some of these underrated artists they give other's chance to acknowledge their talent i love this about them
In Lisa's case, if her releases kept up with the hype, the blatant use of connections would be overlooked. Even propel her to greater success and acclaim. But it isn't happening, because the actual content doesn't keep up with the hype.
I loved Jin and Wendy's Heart on the window. It was a very fresh breath of air in kpop.
About that Izna controversy, I agree with belift lab CEO's comments that every kpop (both boy and girl group) debut after new jeans has been affected by them. They brought about a shift in the type of music being released (more focus on easy listening) and concepts (less girl crush and more fresh).
That isn't plagiarism. It is the same as every new gg doing girl crush after bp success and every other group singing about self love after success of bts love yourself series.
Izna are definitely blatantly creating buzz. Otherwise it is difficult to get on kpop radar these days if you aren't from big agencies. Not their fault. Just recognize the marketing tactic when you see one.
Lisa’s sudden success can only be justified by her bf, I’m sorry but there’s no way she got all of this when she’s only famous inside Kpop culture…
omgg yesss like she started performing at a lot of western shows suddently, like wth??
@ fr! It’s like nepotism but through her boyfriend. Why she, out of other singers performed at VSFS? Why is she suddenly on EVERYTHING?
Like no one of her solo songs became a smash hit, even though it was through tiktok, money was her biggest hit that too yrs ago@@rosykissmelater
the obvious misogyny and racism is crazyy. Y'all act like LIsa is not rich or famous enough to pay for these things or even earn it
@@sanainthesky racism for exactly what? Misogyny for exactly what? I agree she’s got her money and her own success, but the sudden appearance in many things where it would be more obvious to have other people participating is weird. I stand by that.
ICE ON MY TEETH = EYES ON MY TEETH is pretty much a diss track, there is a lot of word plays I am sorry those lyric songs don't translate thar part, many fans that follow them more closely know that reason why we always wait for videos from Handsome Sausages and ItsAndyandJas cause they pretty much explaim many of the things they do that can't be translated due to cultural references and slangs. The lyrics are not cringe, those lyric videos are uselless, Ateez is one of the few groups that is 100% korean, they always use stuff that is not easy to translate to english cause they are very witty. So I am sorry maybe you didn't know that but really there are no grills on the MV, so isn't rreally about it, right? About the style, their music follow their storyline, always did so we are getting the style that fit the current lore situation. I mean, I am fine with their songs, I really like their twists in many different genres. People assume Ateez has a certain style but their music change everytime they start a new series of albums. I am fine with that, they do all styles well.
2: Let’s be real-it’s not hard to see through WAKEONE Entertainment’s play here. They needed a way to get people talking about their new group, so what did they do? They went with an album design that’s practically a carbon copy of NewJeans’. It’s like they thought, "If we can’t beat the buzz, let’s just borrow it."
And then, once people caught on and started calling them out, they went ahead and changed it. Classic move-push the boundaries just enough to get noticed, then backpedal once the heat’s on.
Simple. 😂
Kpop Stans need to stop all this copy plagiarize drama it's just unecessary
1: YG did half the work, the rest she paid her way through.
ps: (I'm about to get attacked)
Just out of curiosity where does YG come in this?
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ I mean, making her a little bit known with BP.
No your not getting attacked literally one comment asked a question
When she was under YG her deals was literally getting canceled wym? She only now getting her name out there without being attached to blackpink
@starcrossed4ever let's be real, she is getting major public exposure due to the fact that she has a connection to rich and powerful people.
Lisa is overrated af ! Like whats the next step after the acting ? Maybe shell run the president next term?
Take a chill that’s way to much
Y’all bitter as hell
Lisa is going after the triple threat line and it’s obvious.
Triple threats can sing dance and act. We all know Lisa can dance amazing so that’s no problem. She is a pretty good singer but can improve, and we will see how her acting is but she is talented so she will probably be fine
@@AUGHHHHHBBGtell her to sing live first
@@arshk8814 she been did that
@@AUGHHHHHBBG what do you mean?
4: They didn't even bother to give us KISSY's an explanation and made us stay in curiousity. We deserve an explanation.
S2 must explain what's happening because fans deserve it. I saw that this is related to Taylor Swift concert in Toronto
8: I LOVED HEART ON THE WINDOW. IM DYING TO HEAR THIS SONG SUNG LIVE 😩🤧♥️♥️
Frr both wendy and jin slayed
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if Ateez had done yet another hard hitting high energy song like what they're known for, you would have again critisized THAT and claimed how they are so one note and incapable of creating a "new" sound. You'd have accused them of being generic boring or repetitive. I personally think Ice on my teeth gave us diversity/ variety
exactly the problem is people arent simply enjoying idol group songs as much as they used too or theyre being too picky with it and fhats ok i guess if they want to be that miserable. i genuinely enjoyed their cb. its totally my vibe
This. I remember they were complaining that Ateez are not versatile and all they did was "noise music". Now that Ateez has switched it up, they're complaining again. Humans are just insatiable you should know. The album is doing great on charts and otherwiss and I'm seeing lots of new real fans so, I don't think Ateez is doing anything wrong. Music is art, it's meant to evolve.
8. He's not here for the numbers but his fans and that's how you know his love for his fans , like man had 5000+ songs to choose from but choose to work with the sound which he loves the most ,rather than using popular sounds 💗
Yeah the songs in his album are made for art not for charts and fame
I got my 7/7 perfect album from BTS soloist now i will wait forever for them 💜.
They tried to explain why they put her on that cover which made no sense actors works years perfecting their art just for some idol who has one role which has not even been out yet to get a cover it makes no sense that shes on the cover like what is she doing next to nicole and zendaya like please wait until she debuts on screen believe it or not she was choosen coz of connections its has nothing to do with popularity there a many established actors from asia who a making it right now but weren't featured now this just makes all the people who have worked years acting look dumb miss girl has had 1 one freaking acting role and all of the sudden shes on vanity fair what is this nonsense so please blinks or lilies keep quit coz she definitely doesnt deserve to stand next to this people so dont feel when people say it's coz of FA coz please explain why she deserves this cover without talking about her Instagram followers or delusional fans name one thing she did that deserves this vanity fair cover
I feel like the only member who's independently running her career is Jennie, her own label, no connections like this, just making music of her own style, no copy , no sampling, no payola, no ads, only real views with real viewers. just enjoying what she likes.
she definitely also has connections, they all have. its just that lisa turned it up to 100 so everyone else seems genuine in comparison lmao. i definitely got ads/recommendations for jennie when i dont follow her at all, and she had huge playlisting. but yeah, its not comparable to the mess lisa is creating.
whats payola?
Not only Jennie even Jisoo and Rosie too....I know Rosie doesn't have her own label but she is working hard and making music of her own,No promotion,No fake messages just fun music with real views and achievements 😊 jisoo is working hard on her acting career so i will not add her here 😊 Hope you understand and No hate to anyone just Love to everyone 🤗
@@Namjoons_Destroyed_Kitchen77 no ,rosé song has Been recommended by TH-cam to me uncountable times, it just randomly shows up on my feed ,she has sponsored TH-cam or her label has
Waiting for rosé album , i think i'm going to cry for whole week 😭 and today her 11 track name just revealed which is too bad for us
yes then lisa shes having a full album then jennie shes having i think 11 too a full album then jisoo
1. lisa fans do you really think from all blackpink members like rosé & especially jennie with her style, lisa would be the one to randomly by "solo success" & popularity go on the victoria's secret show when there are (you gotta swallow this) singers who can really sing and srsly have an admiration for fashion? and stop with the global popularity thing, kpop idols, yes, have the big influence to market the brands but aren't taken as serious as having musical collabs with these brands on stage before.
Bernard Arnauld has already donated 10mil for her crazy horse performance. nepo arnauld babe.
time's article says she acts in white locus to "increase the show’s viewership in Asia, a region where WarnerMedia is actively trying to make inroads." yes influence, acting no.
Real. I’m not a Lisa hater or anything but her popularity is so forced it’s annoying and her stans are even worse. They’ll say Lisa is the greatest rapper in K-pop when J-hope, So-yeon and even Jennie is better than her. They say that she has the best voice when Rosé is literally singing live, hitting her high notes nearly perfect, they say that she’s a great actress when Jisoo has been acting longer than she has and is very good at it. They can’t accept that Others are better than her and start to push her down people’s throat and it doesn’t help that Lisa is pushing herself too just as much as her stans especially with her boyfriend’s money. it’s getting annoying now.
100% true.
Even when the editor in chief came out to speak out why lisa was in the cover... all I had was that...... she said lisa is famous so we gonna put her on… Its a slap in a face for lisa and she doesnt even know it…
Entire world knows Lisa's there only for copy sales. Funny how world works.
What do you think about THE BOYZ officially leaving IST Entertainment to join One Hundred? Also, there’s a chance they might change the group's name since the new company applied for a trademark (but it all depends on the agreement between IST and One Hundred).
6: I don't know...ICE ON MY TEETH, is slowly slowly growing on me 👀😬😳
for reals its actually so catchy. i think people just dont let themselves enjoy a different group anymore theyre almost becoming too nitpicky on this channel
9:44 never in my life did I think you talking about class:y I have never seen you make a video about a Nugu group, but I do agree classy is wasted potential
3. All of the things you said would make sense if the concept itself didn't have so much similarity to Ggum. I don't care if you break it down to seperate elements and then say "it was done before" when you have to look at the concept as a whole. You could say this abt anything. The overall picture shows a clear similarity between the two photoshoots.
You cannot deny they have the same poses, colour palettes, hairstyle, gum elements etc. So Wavys interpretation of these elements is very close to Yeonjun's approach, where the other examples you show are clearly different and unique. That's how you can tell the difference between common theme and copy.
And also, you are talking about Xenophobia against YangYang leaving out the ridiculous amount of hate Yeonjun got from Wavy fans too . Don't take sides now. Fanwars don't benefit anyone
If Lisa does not succeed, it cannot be said that it is not because she tried, because let's be honest, she has done much more promotions and bigger than her teammates and even so I think she has been overshadowed by them. In the future we will see what holds for her, but it is clear that if she wants to succeed in the west she has to improve her vocal quality asap.
she can try but girl has to have sometning noteworthy about her that sets her apart from say taylor ssift or sabrina carpenter, shes more influencer than anything else i dont really get what shes about not saying she cant do all that she wants and has her own version of success but is it really genuine effort of her own? i dont know anymore
I wish indian actress alia bhatt or Deepika Padukone or priyanka were there . They have contributed so much to acting and as a asian representation. Don't even talk about srk , he is bigger than those awards or oscars.
@@theCOMMENTofficial1 Priyanka Chopra would have made so much sense , I'm just so mad that they chose LISA over HER, someone who has actually done so much in the world of Hollywood AND bollywood.
5: Tiktok has ruined kpop songs.
I wanna ask how, coz tiktok is one of the most used apps and ofc kpop idols will promote their songs there and pple seem to have fun doing kpop tt challenges, so how has it ruined kpop songs?
Kpop is a gimmick. Its headed for ruin anyway
I think if u don’t like illit rn you’re more than likely going to never like illit. it’s clear to me that this is their genre and I personally enjoy it, vocal chops lots of synth and heavy production, I find it fun and cute. I do wish their songs were longer and I really enjoy their youthful yet eerie aesthetic, overall I really enjoy illit
- I like the Jin album. (Wish the title was longer). The B-sides really shine and show so many layers.
- I appreciate Ateez for constantly evolving their sound. Although I like this comeback, it doesn’t have the lasting power that I expect from them. Compare to the Treasure, Fever, and The World Series, I’m still trying to piece together the direction/lore in golden hour.
Coukd you share your opinions on Seunghan coming back to SM as a soloist? I can't wait for dis one 😂
You don't ask my op but in my view it's the classic SM response for this like: "Shut up dogs here's Seunghan but not in RIIZE. I need to continue to have cash" the Bittersweet ending 💓
@@miusy0924I was thinking the same. The definition of ✨Bittersweet✨
F SM
1 - I completely agree I don't know why LISA is there next to those amazing actresses when she has contributed nothing to the acting world as of yet. A more likely person would have been Jisoo given as she has actually starred in something (Even Jisoo though should not be on the cover vs other asian actresses and actors who have been working their asses off) LISA must have had a very good connection.
2- WAKEONE definitely took inspiration and copied the debut album of NEWJEANS for IZNA's debut album. I completely agree they were gonna go for the any press is good press vibe because how else can you explain suddenly changing an entire album and managing to get all the units out before the debut in less than a week. Something fishy is there.
3 - As much of a MOA as I am can we stop being delusional, YEONJUN didnt make the edgy concept at all and I have seen so many others in K-Pop use that type of "bad boy" vibe for their concepts (NCT DREAM) has a concept photo where they literally have mini characters and are in gum with graffiti so idk why MOA's are tripping when NCT fans can easily say YEONJUN copied NCT. They both were different vibes with school delinquent boy and Y2K streetwear.
4 - Im so sad about KISS OF LIFE's tour being canceled in Toronto because I was supposed to go see them and was actually so excited because they are one of the only girl groups I have really stanned since debut (besides BLACKPINK) so to hear just 5 hours before the show that it was cancelled and with no reason as to why was kind of heartbreaking. We call it the Toronto curse because it happens to a lot of artists when they come here but any explanation would have been nice. It definitely wasn't VISA issues because like you stated NATTY would not have been able to do the MONTREAL show tonight so im just wondering what happened. I know rightfully myself and a lot of Toronto KISSY's are very upset but we hope to see the girls soon. Toronto is always waiting for them 🇨🇦
5 - ILLIT's second mini album was honestly not it for me, some songs were okay but it did not have the groundbreaking impact that SUPER REAL ME did and I also think that the controversy with MHJ and NJ being entitled brats and bringing up plagiarism issues with ILLIT any chance they get hindered their success because it did happen at such a crucial time for them to be gaining support (their debut) but I hope their next comeback does better.
6 - No comment as I haven't heard the song yet!
7 - I am VERY excited to see ROSÈ's solo debut outside of YG she is doing something I am so ready for her to make a splash in the music scene again because after hearing those teasers, she is definitely going to be charting. I totally 100% agree with the Taylor x Avril x Olivia comparison, I have always stated that ROSIE is the Taylor Swift of K-Pop and I am so happy that she is staying true to herself & doing genre's that will make people feel nostalgic while also adding a updated touch.
8 - Haven't heard JIN's new album yet so I cannot comment!
9 - Never heard the comeback so I cannot comment either!
2024, the year plagiarism 😂😂😂 i hear this word at least 20 times in K-pop now
Her rich boyfriend is doing amazing shoving her everywhere
It's very telling how having a billionaire bf can get you ahead. It'll be interesting to see what he literally buys her into next.
She's photoshopped into this. Those actual actors would all be so shocked to see her placed so prominently on the cover. (She only actually met the Dr Who actor)
Okay, let's see what's next Mr Arnault for your overly ambitious, shameless gf, Lisa 😊
you sound slow know your information first HBO was the one that send her there not her fake bf
@@BellJohnson-p1p You may believe that I "sound slow", but I'm clearly more educated than you. If you *have* to reply, please check your spelling and grammar first.
@@maramac42 there's nothing wrong with my grammar all I put was HBO which is HBO MAX IF YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND because if you did you wouldn't be saying her fake bf did it for
@@BellJohnson-p1p On the contrary, there's nothing *right* about your grammar.
Now, go away!!
Duh their relationship is not even confirmed.
lisa is totally piggybacking off her "boyfriend". its not even from her own genuine effort anymore and i think thats why there is such backlash, its like how in le sserra of all the trainees they couldve picked and they picked sakura who still cant even sing well. imagine how many others wanted lisas position?
7: My ranking of her snippets:
"Toxic till the end": Although most of Taylor Swift's songs don't really resonate with me, I can't help but feel that the song feels so Taylor Swift coded. I KNOW I'm going to have this on repeat
"2 years": Same as before.
"Number one girl": WHO THE HELL BROKE THIS GIRLS HEART?! 😭😩😔
"Gameboy": I really love the beat. It's something you can bop too.
"3AM: *cries* 😪😓😔
"Not the same": It's not my FAVOURITE one, but I love the instrumental. At first it kinda felt like an OST for a K-drama, but that changed immediately for me when she begun singing. It kinda felt like a SZA song idk anymore ¯\_(☯෴☯)_/¯
Whats your opinion on Sunwoo from THEBOYZ getting assaulted?
Bro saseangs are getting too crazy rn do they really think idols will fall in love with them if they act like that
According to vanity fair, they put her in the issue cus they want her to be able to reintroduce herself. Not as a kpop idol but as an actress.I think it’s good and personally I don’t really care that much she is on it. People will claim its connections (which connections isn’t a bad thing… you need connections in this business) directly the addiction to say it’s her alleged boyfriend.
I agree but people dislike cristal clear nepotism, specially when the nepobaby has yet to prove her/his worth.
@@belaytriks thats the point, the editor said she wants Lisa on the cover as the next big thing for the upcoming year hence TWL
HBO WAS THE ONE WHO SEND HER THERE
I agree she shouldn't have been on the magazine but they like to feature what they think is a new artist upcoming in the industry, so they consider lisa the next big thing to look out for that's why she's on the list. But I have to say it does seem to me like they just wanted an Asian face in the magazine, which is just sick and disgusting, but that's the industry wouldn't be the first time they did that
I think everyone can agree with the lisa one cause that's just hilarious, but the illit one is just you being a hater. Their discography is one of the most exciting and innovative in kpop right now. The songs may be on the shorter side, but they still manage to deliver a cohesive album that highlights each member's vocal strengths and performance abilities. I don't really understand the negative reactions to tracks like "Magnetic" and "Tick Tack." It's possible those songs just aren't everyone's cup of tea, but overall, Illit has crafted a sound that feels fresh and distinctive, and I think that’s something worth appreciating.
ain't it kinda weird saying jin shouldn't take a popular producer song,caused i wanted it all about jin sound,what does it even mean.like there are others song too.
Just nitpicking to find something "wrong" 🙄 Running wild is a good song ✔️
“Cameo” 😂This how I know you haven’t watched the “the white lotus” and the editor of Vanity Fair said why’s she’s there if you seen it 😒
Like literally 🤣🤣🤣 a manager as a cameo in the white lotus?🤣
I literally cried in joy when you mentioned answer being ateez best song. I really didn't love their newest releases compared to their older songs. Answer was such such good song...
exactly why i love kpop spy. shes so real 😭
For jin opinion running wild was kinda like a pt for the Astronaut so i can get where you coming for
Heart on window is a masterpiece
You should also check falling i think it fits a little more but tbh its amazing the lyrics seems very personal (as jin explained its about his irl situation) but overall happy as a debut album is amazing am sure as time goes we will see jin finding his sound just like other members did 😊
Saying that the concept is generic and used by many is okay but that's literally deviating from the plot. The fact that it was all used together and not scattered shouts how much ggum was on the moodboard. Even if they wanted to go that way then why specifically pink ggum, ggum on the shoes, or even the pose everything together?
The way SM stans were so on hating yeonjun when ggum was out, literally sending de@th threats but no one gave an eye on that. If you watch ggum's behind of making, yeonjun was part of everything from lyrics, choreo, fits, sets etc. He poured in his heart, soul, blood, sweat and everything but the amount of hate he received was heart breaking. kpop stans don't even give the same amount of energy to a criminal.
So, moas defending ggum was logical as if good boy gone bad, lovesong and now ggum are all coincidences?
Mind you none of the moas were saying anything about the idol or group but the company only and then their words get twisted and made the main villain.
sm should hire new creative teams if they are getting short of ideas now
this is not an unpopular opinion at all, literally everyone has been saying this
Lisa included in vanity fair because the same reason why white lotus feature her.
On November 15, Radhika Jones, the Editor-In-Chief of US media Vanity Fair, appeared on “CBS Morning Plus” and discussed the site’s 2025 “The Hollywood Issue,” an annual spread celebrating Hollywood’s biggest names.
Here, the editor mentioned Lisa’s appearance on the Hollywood feature, and explains why the decision to include Lisa was made. In particular, when asked how she made decisions for which stars to include, Radhika Jones answered, “Take someone like Lisa, who was a huge star in K-Pop world, um, less well known in Hollywood or with a Hollywood audience, but she’s going to be on the White Lotus in the new season. And that, you know, people love that show. So this is our way of saying. Lisa’s incredibly famous, but we’re going to introduce her in a new context, and it’s nice to be able to create that mix.”
We love to put those kinds of people together and I feel like when you have a mix of people together, in different stages of their career, it lends itself to moments of discovery. You can discover somebody new to you, but you can also rediscover someone you thought you knew”, Vanity Fair’s Editor-In-Chief also added, effectively defending Lisa against criticisms that her appearance on the edition was “unfair” Funny thing is people try too hard to prove she is nugu idol Before met with her rumoured Bf..she is the one who beat 3,999 contests and selected under yg by her own HARDWORK and skills,she trained for almost 3-4 years before Official debut,im the small age moved from one country to another,Faced so many r@c!st comments She shine out of another members because of her own chiasma,stage presence and dance skills and become THE MOST POPULAR FEMALE IDOL in kpop,a foreigner who ruled the kpop,In 2022 she got her 1st international awards(2MTVs)Her solo lalisa and money was Major global hit on charts and made so many records,A Kpop soloist with most Guinness world records!!so how suddenly people act like she is nugu idol who need connections to Grow her career afterall People Try too hard to bring down sucessful womens!!
9: No tell me their own company ain't promoting them enough?! WHY TF IS IT SO HARD TO DO THAT?! These girls are obviously very talented and have huge potential. Such a shite company 😑😑
Rosé is literally feeding blinks, so far most of the songs I’m liking, I liked rockstar and new woman and Jennie’s mantra has been living in my head but I’m so excited for what Jennie will give.
me too and jisoo to lisa coming out with full album cant wait to see
5: I genuinely don’t get why you want a deeper meaning to the music you’re listening to have a deeper meaning some people genuinely like simple music and that’s okay. Most people who listen to K-pop don’t even know the meaning behind what it is
songs are just for fun i think this channel owner is deeply miserable inside and picks apart everything they dont like too much i mean are they even fan for the idols music anymore? no. they should move on if thats the case
1. In a room full of popular actors Lisa is definitely misplaced, BUT to go so far and claim her (alleged) billionaire boyfriend used his connections to get her there is a reach!
Lisa is huge and tries to market herself to the western industry, so it makes sense she would accept that offer..
People just hate successful women..
The hate on twt is so so obvious 💀💀 Like imagine being so pressed about LISA laughing that you gotta make tweets mocking her for it LMFAOO embarrassing 🤡🤡
sorry but when has she shown interest in acting? go on the cover of any other magazine then what is she going to do next? football? girl doesnt even play football or act
@@randomuser-nt9if she's literally the main cast of the TWL series, the editor of the issue has explained why she's on the cover. She has expressed multiple times in the past that she wants to try acting. Idk what more you want her to do.
TICK TACK is such a FUN and their second EP was definitely better than the first. ILLIT music may not just be for like BOYNEXTDOOR and that’s honestly fine
9. The fact that they comeback with LITERALLY 2 songs after how long? Idk anymore, it show how little they care about CLASS:y. Like so many contestant of MTG are doing so much better than them, like for example Yooyeon and Jiwoo of tripleS, Yunseo and Inhye (Hue) are in BADVILLAIN, Minami is in Rescene, I would also say Suhye of Madein is doing better than them.
They are just wasting these girls talent, cause CLASS:y members have a lot of potential.
5: I didn't like TICK-TACK. The chorus is kinda annoying. I prefer CHERISH more than TICK TACK. (no hate)
Same, I like Cherish more. Tick tack doesn’t have any substance. Seems like created out of nowhere using AI and make it sound catchy to gain attention.
Same
I love it❤❤🎉
I liked Ice on my teeth. I think it's a great song.
It’s sounds weird like ice on my Wrist. Trying to use slangs from black people without knowing what it means
@@user-riahmesphere idk why they named it that and didn't do a single thing with grillz or at least tooth gems. i don't even remember anyone wearing a chain or something since they said "ice on my tee," too. it's more disappointing because i'm pretty sure they do know what it means, wrote that dentist line first, and then forced themselves to write a whole song around it so they didn't have to shelve it. the tennis tennis thing felt like they were forcing themselves to make the first line work.
@@user-riahmesphere You are a casual listener who takes a simplistic approach when consuming Ateez material which is a pity. "Ice on my Teeth" is a play on words "Eyes on my Teeth" (notice how they drag the words; typical Ateez tip off that something "other" is up) and doesn't really involve grillz or black slang culture. When confronting Ateez please remember that they are proudly Korean and their lyrics are rooted in Korean culture rather than western culture. Only thing that is for sure geared toward attracting western interest is the beat and catchy chorus and the cinematic quality of the mv. When it comes to lyric meaning and symbolism scattered throughout the mv, that's going to have a heavy Korean slant and attached to the lore. Atiny respect this and know that a deep dive is required to really know and appreciate what is going on. If ever you are interested in the not so hidden rhyme/reason production, there are plenty of Atiny (check comment sections) and Korean based reactors around who can help.
Just so you know, Ateez produced 2 music videos for the single "Matz" where Hongjoong and Seonghwa show that they very well know what grillz are and how they are used...again lyrics and both mvs have other meaning that what your international eyes and ears perceive.
@ you’re a very nice person who explains with details and I respect that. But you still haven’t told me that”ice on my teeth” means
@@ithoughtiwascishet1316 ✔️💯 💯 👏👏
3: moas are mainly annoyed bc if this were the other way around sm stans would have no problem yelling plagiarism especially since sm stans pulled the plagiarism card for less
2. That was the most obvious rage bait I’ve ever seen
4. I’m praying they don’t do this for NY
5. I’m actually surprised that this is the b side the general public liked the most. I thought IYKYK was more deserving of a music video
7. Saw the notification for her Instagram live and I couldn’t even watch it because I was at work 🥲
exactly they pickapart comebacks faster than going through used tissues without giving themselves enough chances to like what groups are doing its so toxic because its not letting their audience say anything different.
I don’t like these comments saying that Lisa got her spot on the Hollywood Reporter cover because of her billionaire boyfriend- misogyny looks ugly on you. When YG stopped giving Blackpink music promotions and had them flying out to every European fashion show, party, and red carpet to rub shoulders with wealthier, more famous people THAT’S where she made her connections. The European luxury fashion industry is the meeting ground of multiple entertainment industries- actors, film producers, western music artists, athletes, politicians, businessmen, wealthy socialites, influencers, etc, and the three members who speak English had the biggest advantages to network. Blackpink members largely boosted their international fame by establishing them as fixtures in the European luxury scene (because it definitely wasn’t through their barely existent music and lackluster performances that garnered them attention considering they were mostly inactive as a group for years at a time) and it’s now the blueprint of many 4th and 5th Gen Big 3 + HYBE idols today.
Should she be on the cover? No. But let’s not act as if she NEEDED a man to get her there. It also remains to be seen if this PR stunt will get people to ask “who’s this girl? I want to know more” or if they’ll ignore her. Getting people to even ask about her identity is great PR. You may think it’s sneaky, but she’s clearly trying to breakout as a star in the west and this could boost her visibility. Even negative posts that asks “why is Lisa there?” is marketing her FOR FREE.
1. I'm not taking any of y'all seriously, The editor of the issue herself gave the CLEAR explaination as to why Lisa is there but yeah sure call her a nepo baby or wtv the fuck you want. The tweets showing their racism and misogyny is funny too.
The people who have the idea to call LISA was thinking: "We need to sell more copies of the magazine so we call LISA" and even if was her bf she can be called Nepo GF
@@miusy0924I get that yall mad cuz lisa not actress yet but they should be mad at HBO who sent and sponsored lisa to come there😭 they really thought about sending lisa to get more attention and you guys really paid attention to this😭😭
@@IconicClip Not mad at her just at Vanity Fair and her "allegedly" BF because this must be a joke her with other legends in cinema
I swear, you're the definition of a TOXIC BLINK. You're always on here whining and crying about every little criticism about your idols.
@@miusy0924 calling her a nepo gf becuz of her UNOFFICIAL bf is crazy. She herself denied the relationship rumors yet y'all still keep riding her ass with that lame excuse. You ppl act like its impossible for a rich and influential artist like Lisa can land herself this opportunity. Plus HBO themself have made it clear that they were the ones who sent lisa there and not her alleged bf's connections but SURE! whatever helps kppopies sleep at night.
Sometime, people like to cheat.
Many of y’all in the comments lack information on the industry and it shows. Talking about paying your way and connections is funny cus your faves ALSO do that. People have connections and use them. That’s not a bad thing. She trying to get an audience that’s not just blinks. She also seems to be trying to go after the triple threat area. I think it’s smart. Even y’all talking bad about this is still giving her publicity which helps her.
It is literally taking someone else's spot. it is unfair, it proves she has connections for it. Put yourself in a similar situation where you apply for a job and have all the qualifications, you have done a lot to get it and suddenly someone without any experience hop on it and take it because of being someone's relative or something like that.
@musicinterest-dibthat applies to most of the industry. If you mad at Lisa be mad at a lot of this other A-listers too.
Also I can put myself in that situation. Yea I would be hurt but I’ll move on and get my own connections. I like fashion. If I have a connection that can get my stuff on Vogue I would use it in seconds without a thought. If I had connections that got me on fashion week I would use it without a thought. Let’s be honest too, you would as well. If you had a connection that could help your dream career you cannot tell me you wouldn’t use it. Plus everyone else is using theirs too. Life isn’t fair. I like many actors and actresses who should be stars cus they are amazing but it doesn’t happen. I will still enjoy seeing them no matter they are on vanity or not.
Are u justifying the wrong thing since many do that?? Don't u think it is wrong! I'm not talking about Lisa here, I don't really know the story behind so I can't comment. But the way u say it 😢 It's wrong, cause u r stealing someone's spot who deserves that.
@musicinterest-dibNothing about careers are fair. Base off your example of applying for a job. Let’s choose a job for example. Let’s say I’m applying to be a lawyer and I have all the qualifications. That alone is an advantage. That would mean I had the privilege of having proper education and using it. What about the person also applying who doesn’t have an education but still could be a good lawyer? Wouldn’t that make me just as bad as the people who got in with relatives? Or is it using my resources?
If you say it makes me just as bad I want you to tell me if you have a highschool diploma or a college education. If yes and you applied to jobs with that you are saying you are just as bad. All because you used your resources
@@Maazhimi I never said it’s right. I said it happens and everyone is privileged in some type of way over another. You will not always be the best there is always someone better than you so whenever you do well in any career you are doing better than someone more skilled. You got to get over it