Great vid, so helpful. Suspension upgrades, tuning etc can be very confusing for the average joe bike rider, as I am, so this helps bring clarity. I especially like your point of checking in with yourself and asking what are you really looking for in suspension. Bringing intention into the process is a key ingredient imho. Keep up the great work on your videos!! I look forward to seeing more. Thank you!
Great presentation and visuals. Covered everything you need to know about shocks :mounting, hardware stroke etc.. Sad to say I don't make a lot of adjustments on my bike but I did change the rear token to Red and added 3 tokens to the 34 Rhythm. Rides way better now and I can get the sag I want. Cheers to you also.
To tune my suspension on the trail, my number one tool is my eye glasses! I can't tell you how many times I have screwed up my settings thinking I remember which way to turn my adjustment knobs and ended up way out of tune.
Very informative video kudos. For me I typically leave the rear and front suspension per manufacturer (unless I was racing and the rear and front needs fine tuning based on the course). What I notice between Rockshox and fox, rockshox tent to be more plush at the beginning of the stroke where as fox is after. Maybe it is just me. The biggest will be like you explained sag…rider weight, riding style play a big part on fine tuning the fork and rear shocks
Perfect timing. I’ve been pondering upgrading my bike’s suspension. All things being equal what would you say is the best bang for your buck, a fork or shock upgrade?
@lovemtb awesome video!, I was waiting “patiently” for updates on this bike since you bought it! Did you order the shock directly from Fox? Did they send it tuned already or the shim service was aftermarket? I am waiting for a epic Evo myself and I want to order the fox shock with a remote. Looking forward on the AXS transmission videos.
Hi, can you help me that to upgrade the old Brain Rock Shox installed on Spec Epic Expert 2012, with a new rear shox ad example Rockshox model RockShox Monarch RT3 Rear Shock, 7.25x1.75" (184x44mm), D1 can you support where i found a drawing? because in the website of Sram i dont found anything
nice video, i juste buy the same bike to upgrade it. For the rear suspension, i want to buy a Rockshox SIDLuxe Ultimate 3P RL Solo Air but i don't know if i need some bushing or other stuff to swap it ? Do you have an idea ?
I’m curious between RockShox Deluxe Ultimate C1 vs Fox Float DPS performance elite are they comparable or is the deluxe ultimate noticeably better? As far as Performance reliability and durability?
@@LoveMTB I did a bunch of research on RockShox and fox racing suspension and from the reviews I hear differences are personal preference which I believe I understand but the main thing that sold me was foxes service ability compared to rock shocks Fox suspension resale value much better, and their service life is also longer whereas SRAM doesn’t support their shocks for the amount of time Fox would for example, sram is more innovative to where they don’t support the products as long compared to Fox from what I read.
@@LoveMTB and thanks for the recommendation I’m going to get a fox 36 performance elite 27.5” 44mm offset last on my bike upgrade list since my marzocchi bomber z2 is working fine
Thank you for shedding some light on this rather confusing subject!!! I book marked this vid for future use...I recently got an email from a lbs in my area on suspension service and tuning and for the 100hr service and custom tune it was like $800 to do my enduro e-bike does that sound about right?(holy expensive) and by the way I loved your t-shirt!!!
I own a 2020 Canyon LUX and the system used by Rockshox with DU bushings is the worst ever and less performing. In fact, this system damaged my frame because the total absence of rotation of the spacer meant that the carbon frame wore out, fortunately replaced under warranty. Now I mount the RS shock absorber with the FOX bushing system. The FOX system, even if it lasts less, safeguards the components and therefore the life of the bicycle. Now Canyon uses all FOX components and you can explain yourself why.
Great vid, so helpful. Suspension upgrades, tuning etc can be very confusing for the average joe bike rider, as I am, so this helps bring clarity. I especially like your point of checking in with yourself and asking what are you really looking for in suspension. Bringing intention into the process is a key ingredient imho. Keep up the great work on your videos!! I look forward to seeing more. Thank you!
Great presentation and visuals. Covered everything you need to know about shocks :mounting, hardware stroke etc.. Sad to say I don't make a lot of adjustments on my bike but I did change the rear token to Red and added 3 tokens to the 34 Rhythm. Rides way better now and I can get the sag I want. Cheers to you also.
Thanks Don, love to share my knowledge and understanding 🤘
To tune my suspension on the trail, my number one tool is my eye glasses! I can't tell you how many times I have screwed up my settings thinking I remember which way to turn my adjustment knobs and ended up way out of tune.
Haha good one! Always remember clockwise is slower!
WoW!!! That's great!! A lot and rich information! Thanks a lot for sharing with us!
My pleasure!
Great video very simple and informative, thanks
You’re welcome
Very informative video kudos. For me I typically leave the rear and front suspension per manufacturer (unless I was racing and the rear and front needs fine tuning based on the course). What I notice between Rockshox and fox, rockshox tent to be more plush at the beginning of the stroke where as fox is after. Maybe it is just me. The biggest will be like you explained sag…rider weight, riding style play a big part on fine tuning the fork and rear shocks
Noted, I'll see what I can do :)
Perfect timing. I’ve been pondering upgrading my bike’s suspension. All things being equal what would you say is the best bang for your buck, a fork or shock upgrade?
Good question. Why do you want to improve the suspension? What limitations do you run into? Answer that question and you have your answer😊
@lovemtb awesome video!, I was waiting “patiently” for updates on this bike since you bought it! Did you order the shock directly from Fox? Did they send it tuned already or the shim service was aftermarket? I am waiting for a epic Evo myself and I want to order the fox shock with a remote. Looking forward on the AXS transmission videos.
Yes they did just have to order from their service department and you have all the details of the shock in this video. Enjoy your Epic!
Nice video…just to confirm, I believe you mentioned to “multiply by .30” we talking about FOX shock on sag 😉
Where was that in my video?
Hi, can you help me that to upgrade the old Brain Rock Shox installed on Spec Epic Expert 2012, with a new rear shox ad example Rockshox model
RockShox Monarch RT3 Rear Shock, 7.25x1.75" (184x44mm), D1
can you support where i found a drawing? because in the website of Sram i dont found anything
Thank you for the best explanation.
Hello, I just ordered the same shock for the same epic evo. Do I also need to order the mounting hardware or is this already in the box of the shock?
Unfortunately nothing is in the box. It is bike specific as you see in the video
Is there a proper directional that must be fallow? or can you install in any direction?
It will only fit one way most of the time if not 100% of the time, frame designer decides that.
nice video, i juste buy the same bike to upgrade it. For the rear suspension, i want to buy a Rockshox SIDLuxe Ultimate 3P RL Solo Air but i don't know if i need some bushing or other stuff to swap it ? Do you have an idea ?
Just use this guide and make notes of what you see, it eas just the top bushing that was needed.
I was just looking for a replacement for my Epic Evo as well.
Could we install 190x45?
Probably mot, 42.5 is all inwound go for with 130 fork
i have a cheap full suspension bike from canadian tire can i switch out the cheap shock?
I would not touch that, nothing is standard
Fox nylon bushings work fine with Rock Shox as well in my experience
They do and I would use them 10 times out of 10 vs the RS DU bushing. Just for ease of service.
@@LoveMTB definitely
ever heard of M10x54mm bushing? cant seem to find them
Take a look at this list, all that FOX mades is in there - shop.ridefox.ca/products/mounting-hardware?variant=40477314089039
May I know what model of the fox rear shock ..
@@jrtaup4139 that’s the discontinued Fox Float that we use with 3 positions damper lever
I’m curious between RockShox Deluxe Ultimate C1 vs Fox Float DPS performance elite are they comparable or is the deluxe ultimate noticeably better? As far as Performance reliability and durability?
I would go for FOX...
@@LoveMTB I did a bunch of research on RockShox and fox racing suspension and from the reviews I hear differences are personal preference which I believe I understand but the main thing that sold me was foxes service ability compared to rock shocks Fox suspension resale value much better, and their service life is also longer whereas SRAM doesn’t support their shocks for the amount of time Fox would for example, sram is more innovative to where they don’t support the products as long compared to Fox from what I read.
@@LoveMTB and thanks for the recommendation I’m going to get a fox 36 performance elite 27.5” 44mm offset last on my bike upgrade list since my marzocchi bomber z2 is working fine
I got a megneg on my rockshox deluxe, definately didn't fit it myself though 😂
They exist as a kit!😉
Curious on the status of your Woodsprite!
Not mine unfortunately...
I Hope to see an Upgrade update on that spez evo epic. looks sick
or a Bike review?
Will be a bike review...soon!😊
My eyelet has to be at 90° but i want to put a coil shock but can i twist it as well??😊
Should be able to
How do you get one eyelet to be 90 degreee from the other eyelet for mounting on an Epic evo?
remove all air will be easy to twist afterwards
I have a m8 by 20 but Fox does not have that exact size what size should I get
They definitely have a 8x20 it’s lower in the list - shop.ridefox.ca/products/mounting-hardware?variant=40477314089039
Thank you for shedding some light on this rather confusing subject!!! I book marked this vid for future use...I recently got an email from a lbs in my area on suspension service and tuning and for the 100hr service and custom tune it was like $800 to do my enduro e-bike does that sound about right?(holy expensive) and by the way I loved your t-shirt!!!
You are so welcome Glenn! Check out Vorsprung Suspension in Whistler and S4 in Montreal for more quotes...
So all mtb shocks have 12.7mm (1/2inch) eyelets ID?
For the ones that we use these days yes.
Nice info, thanks. Now I really understood that I know nothing about rear suspensions!!😂😂
Happy to help!😂
pro tip for fox shocks with a lower roller bearing mount, if your bike creaks on suspension compression it's probably that 😂
Thanks for sharing! Mine is still ok...
This is pro league production now.
Thank you
In other words...don't mess with whatever comes standard on your bike, you'll have to be as resourceful as Mr. LoveMTB to get it right!
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To be honest, you make it seem so straightforward yet i understood nothing lol.
Ask away if you have questions 😊
I own a 2020 Canyon LUX and the system used by Rockshox with DU bushings is the worst ever and less performing. In fact, this system damaged my frame because the total absence of rotation of the spacer meant that the carbon frame wore out, fortunately replaced under warranty. Now I mount the RS shock absorber with the FOX bushing system. The FOX system, even if it lasts less, safeguards the components and therefore the life of the bicycle. Now Canyon uses all FOX components and you can explain yourself why.
Not a fan of SRAM's either...
Shocking.
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у меня задний амортизатор fox factory auto sag, их не найти моего размера
Какой это размер? наверное имперский? Обычно можно найти метрику, близкую как по размеру, так и по штриху.