Is Mewtwo a Homunculus? ...HoMEWculus? 🧬 Gnoggin - Pokemon Alchemy
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Is Mewtwo a Homunculus? Think about it, Mewtwo is a clone of Mew, yes, but Mewtwo is also SO much MORE!!!
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Chapters:
00:00 gnoggin.net promo
00:17 Introduction to Alchemy
02:39 Homunculus Among Us
07:16 Mewtwo Brute?
12:42 Conclusion!
Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out! - เกม
Alchemy: the science of understanding, deconstructing, and reconstructing matter. However, it is not an all-powerful art. It is impossible to create something out of nothing. If one wishes to obtain something, something of equal value must be given. This is the law of equivalent exchange; the basis of all alchemy. In accordance to this law, there is a taboo among alchemists. Human transmutation is strictly forbidden. For what could equal the value of a human soul?
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Man this is bringing back so many memories.
A battery plus you know actually having a list of correct ingredients would likely help
Such a good show
Did a marathon of it like a month ago
Uuuuuh.... how about 62 cents? Is that enough?
its interesting how the original game test seemed to imply that Mewtwo was born from mew and that they might have even fiddled with the embryo when Mew was still carrying it, the "horrific gene splicing experiments" but then later on they started calling Mewtwo a clone
Hmmmmmmm
peculiar
Granted that is from Your story.
But its pretty good
They changed It probably because Mew looks too Child-like
They probably just don't want people thinking about pregnant Mew.
@@rancorrage5646 but thats just how life is
i always liked the theory that mewtwo’s mega evolutions allowed mewtwo to tap more into his human(X) or mew(Y) dna
I've had the theory for years, glad someone had the same idea
Hm, haven't heard that one.
Mewtwo is the ONLY pokemon demonstrated to be able to mega evolve without external assistance from a human. Even Ryquaza needs prayer from the humans worshiping him to mega evolve, and just uses their faith in him as a sufficient enough bond. Mewtwo though? The female one that team plasma made can just zap back and forth between normal and mega forms on a whim, no human required.
@@animorph17 with the theory in mind, its probably because his human dna already bonds with his pokemon dna allowing Mewtwo to mega evolve with full control
...that would explain why one is more alien than ghe other
I always had a theory that the reason Mewtwo succeeded while Ditto failed is because they didn't have enough DNA from Mew so then used Amber´s (or any humans depending on the canon) DNA on Mewtwo. Since not having enough of the DNA Ditto would just be one half/being just a slime pile of DNA while with Mewtwo using the Human DNA as the second half to help it form but in the process making Mewtwo more humanoid and Intelligent and aware.
So your theory is they couldn't correctly clone mew due to the genetic instability, so they used human DNA as a stabilizer through hybridization. Enhancing the structure in the process and providing a more 'human' thought process, with out the more human moral compass.
I always thought they used Giovanni or Fuji, but along the same lines as yours. Sadly the ditto theory was disproven though. I also made a theory back when PE came out, after Green tried to catch me with a pokeball the gears turned... SHE'S THE GAME VERSION OF AMBER AND LIVED THE PROCEDURE! Especially after they stated Leaf and Green were 2 different people, that solidified my theory for me.
The hatred for humanity can be as a result of its human reasoning trapped in a pokemon body knowing it will be a slave to a child. Going more into this artificial pokemon like voltorb can be a result of trying to bring back the extinct hisuian one and made byproducts like multiple as a result. They could have did that to test out the process before making mewtwo.
@@seich-of-lacan-getter514 Yep! You hit it exactly on the mark!
@@Blaze4ification In the Adventures manga, they used Blaine's DNA.
Lockstin mentioning alchemy again? Say it with me, guys:
"IT ALL COMES TOGETHER!"
We all remember lockstins crazy sun and moon theorys
@@masontrudgeon8085 conspiracy theorist lockstin.
Really takes me back.
He's a modern day researcher on the matter tbh.
Kronk: "Oh yeah! It's all coming together."
8:55 "Mewtwo's height, weight, elongated fingers, and overall more humanoid shape could all just be the human DNA expressing itself in mixture with the Mew DNA." Also could explain the poor guys existential crisis.
So, Depending on the canon, Mewtwo can be a Pokeculus if it's mostly Pokemon DNA used, or a Homunculus if there's a significant amount of Human DNA used, lets say at least 33%
Pretty sure thats why it has two megas, X is enhancing the human side, while y enhances the mew side
@@seich-of-lacan-getter514 yooooooo you right
Pokemonculus sounds more fitting
@@yungjose3369 sounds more of a mouthful in my opinion. I shortened it to just pokeculus because of that when I posted.
@@seich-of-lacan-getter514 great perception
I wish the mailman question was that deep but sadly there’s just routes they deliver so everyone is covered, meaning they could deliver their own mail but they also might not
There is a similar paradox that comes up in set theory known as the Barber Paradox. It made it so that sets can't be self referential.
@@12jswilson curse our modern world for not allowing mundane activities to become paradoxical
@@CsSniper23 Vanilla coke is not vanilla coke. Happy?
It's a SpongeBob quote.
Just a few things that I noticed:
1. With Ambertwo and Mewtwo, there was also Charmandertwo, Bulbasaurtwo, and Squirtletwo (they all visited Mewtwo and Ambertwo in their dreams, but they died due to complications). They also had the same markings as their final form clones in the movies.
2. For the gene-splicing, for those of you who still don’t understand, think of it on how Ingen combined dinosaur DNA, but filled in the gaps with frog DNA; they had to do gene-splicing to create a full creature.
3. For your cages, I noticed one of them was a Lockstin hybrid combined with some Umbreon. What was the rest of it made out of? I know that’s a reference to that Full Metal Alchemist scientist who combined his dog and daughter to create that chimera.
Edit: Thanks for all the likes, and as for No. 3, I had no idea that I crossed a line. I sincerely apologize.
It looks to me like a hybrid between all of the eveelutions
WE! DO! NOT! TALK! ABOUT! SHOU! TUCKER'S! CRIME!!!!
Ed- ward
@@KamenRiderHellhound ….wow. Never thought that a comment could make my ears ring.
@@IsaPodrasky I've seen worse capslock rages.
8:16 I remember when I was younger, I discovered this very theory as the basis for a concept known as "pokemorphs" in the context of pokemon gentically modfied into humanoids.
This was long before "furbait" pokemon were more frequently introduced.
Thumbnail maker: so theres a lot of empty space next to Mewtwo in the thumbnail. We could probably fit some short word in there. Any ideas?
Lockstin: *looks at the month*
Lockstin: yeah, I have an idea...
Yeah. Im a big fan of lockstin but in this case i wish he opted for a thumbnail that didnt have the word homo pointing at a feebleminded mewtwo. I mean homunculus doesn't even start with homu.
Lmaooo
@@quiogallegos8412 honestly, I disagree. I'm bi and I think its kinda funny. It helps that the mewtwo looks adorable.
@@quiogallegos8412 i feel the same. I feel really insulted by this
that mewtwo is so goofy i love it
Everytime someone mentions alchemy, I just imagine the narrator from FMAB in a whimsical way... *Alchemy* like John Hammond saying "welcome to Jurassic Park" or Spongebob saying *"imaginaaaaation"* one of the greatest quotes in history. I'm not as much of an alchemy nerd as you, but I do love it still, the cross roads between magic and science.
I think lockstin is really smart for finding these connections, I wanted throw this out there: I think that the description of alchemy used in these videos is potentially inaccurate by modern scholors and spiritual beliefe systems. Where it is taken to be a pseudo-science, i beleive alchemy has been more recently redetermined to have been a primarily spiritual focus, used for differing purposes from modern science. At least this is my interpretation of some of the literature on the matter.
9:09 The manga had a _lot_ of weird stuff, at least in Gen 1. A fusion between the legendary birds, around half of the Kanto gym leaders being with Team Rocket, an eevee that could go back and forth between the gen 1 evolutions before naturally evolving into an Espeon and arboks had different patterns that gave them special abilities and Agatha's could outright _switch_ patterns.
-Also it was b*he*ded. It got better.-
3:16 is no one going to mention the "scientist" picture Lockstin used
I was hoping at least one other person noticed. I couldn't watch the rest of the video unless I found if someone knew.
If I remember correctly, in the movie they got Mew's DNA from a fossil. It would make sense that Mewtwo would have human DNA, not just as a stabilizer but also to fill in the blanks of what parts of the Mew DNA the fossil may not have had. I read another comment saying that this makes sense why Mewtwo has the ability of logic and reasoning, but they're stuck in a Pokémon body so it could be why their first reaction was to lash out at humanity. They may have human levels of reasoning, but they still have that animalistic, childish Pokémon side to them.
There have been a lot of comments making connections to Jurassic Park, and getting the DNA from a fossil just deepens the connections.
@@PansyPops Makes sense. That's probably the closest example, and the fossil Pokémon concept most likely came from Jurassic Park anyway.
Bill! Bill stumbled upon mixing his consciousness into a clefairy!! What if like in Jurrasic Park. Dr. Fuji used DNA from humans to fill in the empty space? And 100% still always excited when one of my favourite youtubers mentions one of my favourite anime (FMA brotherhood)
I would say sort of, MewTwo was still made with some human DNA (Blains DNA) and presumably mews DNA/RNA. So not a true clone but I'm hesitant to say it's a humunculi
Chimerculi
the blaine part isn't consistent being through all mewtwo stories.
@@christianlorre alright, so in the timelines where MewTwo has human DNA it's considered a Homunculi, and in timelines where MewTwo has no human DNA it's considered a Chimaera (similar to Type:Null), correct?
I know everyone is talking about the actual contents of the video but can we just talk about 1:37 which implies that all the former arts of Lockstin are different creatures and current Lockstin has just locked them away in a cell. And here I was thinking he was just evolving like a pokemon
5:28 obviously the mailmen deliver each other's mail. rather than a never ending chain of mailmen its more of a circle of mailmen
I mean kind of, born from a sample of Mew’s DNA so they aren’t exactly a copy of mew.
There is a Monster in My Singing Monsters that got released in June 2022 named “Monculus” It’s the monster that represents “life formula”. It does indeed have alchemy inspirations.
1) my singing monster is still receiving updates?
2) it’s honestly a bit scary(not a lot though) for a kids game.
While on the topic of alchemy, I'd like to see videos on chimeras and hybrids... which would line up WELLLLL with the next fossil video lol. For reference for those that don't know, the difference between a hybrid and chimera, a hybrid is only 2 animals mixing, your ligers, your mules. Meanwhile a chimera is 3 or more animals, the generic Greek chimera everyone knows with the lion, goat, and snake heads, the Indominus Rex from Jurassic World, THUS we come back to the gen 8 fossils, are they hybrids, or chimeras? Are there more mingled in besides the 2 fossils? Is there a more in depth sciency reason it's a chimera even though it's only 2 animals?
genetically speaking, a Chimaera is any organism that has more than one set of DNA. Physically one, but genetically two or more. For example a kitten absorbs one of its litter mates in the womb and the resulting baby has a split facial pattern in its fur. Even Humans can be Chimaera, through similar circumstances. For the Galar Fossil Mon tho, I wouldn't really consider them Chimaera or Hybrids. I'd consider them Mistakes.
@@nataliecoronado4206
I too would consider them mistakes, but that they are alive something fishy going on. Well that does make for some interesting science stuff, I suppose a liger has 1 set of DNA, what you describe having more than 1 set sounds more like mutants, but I suppose that could qualify as a chimera too. I know humans can, conjoined twins, or there have been cases of them absorbing their twins too, though didn't consider that angle for all this, so thank you for that. You can't even consider chimeras just a biological mistake because so are hybrids, it's more on a smaller level, which probably how Tucker was able... to do the things he did, otherwise you'd just call those... experiments hybrids. Hybrids are also probably capable because they're from similar families despite still being distant, like you wouldn't cross a wolf and a lion, but you can have wolfdogs, ligers, mules, Wholphins etc. Thank you for your contribution to the class.
The thumbnail got me thinking "damn this guy really thinking mewtwo is gay"
5:42 My mind immediately jumped to Gabe from Malignant. Just imagine if Mewtwo started moving and using its moves entirely backwards.
This got me thinking: What about the characters from Pokemon ReBurst, where people would be able to fuse with Pokemon that are in crystals to transform into a human with Pokemon attributes and abilities? Could they be considered homunculus?
Animorphs/Pokemorphs?
Nah, they all exist naturally, they have the ability to fuse together temporarily, but they exist naturally as separate entitys
The pokemon in question are complete, and separate individuals just trapped inside of a crystal and used as an object. They even gain experience for any battles the human gets into while using them as a power-up, can evolve while inside the crystal, and are able to chat with people holding them. But like, the ONLY way to get the pokemon out is to smash the crystal. I'd imagine these things are pretty rare because most not-evil people would eventually break the damned rock and just have a normal pokemon instead of a sentient skinsuit to wear.
Seems more like a chimera situation.
@@Sin_Alder chimera is a body with two or more different individual cells, meaning a hybrid(which only has one type a cell, a fusion of the different variety) is not a chimera, Frankenstein monster would be a chimera due to all the parts being to different humans. A natural example is when a woman is pregnant, the baby has loose cells that end up flowing through the mothers body for a time, these cells can actually help the mother after birth to, helping repair minor things in the body. Another is when a woman's womb actually had completely different then the woman herself, meaning her children weren't even her biological kids despite giving birth to them
Edit: I realize I just commented relating to reburst rather then mewtwo, apologies 😅, the Burst would be chimera in nature
I like this video. I'd say its more a Chimaera, at least by the modern use of the word, but as the ancient creature is very distinct lion goat thing and not like Mewtwo at all, I think calling it a Homunculus works just as well. I blame Fullmetal Alchemist for making me think any creature of mixed dna is a Chimaera lol
Null Type is a chimera. Mewtwo is a pokemonculus/humonculus
Nowadays a chimera is used to refer animals and people with more than one genetic code, also to a group of fish related to sharks and stingrays.
Is just the legendary Chimera was so famous we end to called any fused creature as one.
Anybody else have to do a double take when Lockstin started playing music used constantly in False Swipe Gaming's competitive pokemon videos? I'm sure it's a Pokemon track they're both using, but it took me a solid minute to figure out what my ears were hearing.
Great video Lockstin! I support the idea.
I immediately recognized it and was like "Woah, isn't that FSGs Theme?"
UNFORTUNATELY
One theory idea I’ve been pondering is Giratinas origin form. Notice how in comparison to Dialgas and Palkias it actually loses its legs whereas the other two, while they don’t gain any legs other than palkia they do become more equine like, like arceus. Giratina however, actually starts with legs and then loses them for those wing things that look more like arms. I just thought maybe it got rid of its legs to try and look less like arceus but I’m doing so it gains the spider legs/arm things and sort of ends up referencing the 1000 arms of arceus? Idk just some food for thoughy
I wouldn't be surprised if FMA's deep references and themes to alchemical lore influenced some of these alchemical references we've been seeing in pokemon for so long now, and you've been exploring on this channel for years now. It'd make sense! Either way, I love the nod to it in the intro. It's my favourite series and it's influenced me in a lot of ways.
Dude your vidoe editing is just... like WOW AMAZING!
"Is there a never ending line of mailmen!?" I was only a seasonal Christmas employee, but while I was there I worked in the back of one of the two post offices in town (Or rather, the big town closest to my rural one). Some of the carriers, I believe, lived on the other side of town, so the other office did their mail. But for those who lived on our side of town, they simply did not work the route their house is on. While rural post offices that have one letter carrier obviously cannot do that, I would suppose that they simply take their own mail home at the end of the day. I'll have to ask the post master next time I am there.
Crybabies: "The anime and the manga can't be used as a source! We have to go with what the games tell us, everything else is worthless!"
Sane person: "Okay, so what do the games tell us?"
Crybabies: "Absolutely nothing, they refuse to elaborate in any depth on any topic. Also mewtwo is completely helpless against a small shrub."
Something just occurred to me. Where mewtwo's tail begins, it looks to be about where the belly button is. What if its tail is meant to represent an umbilical cord or something?
God I love these videos. A solid 13 1/2 minutes, but it felt like a 30 minute dissertation. Great stuff as always.
1:37 I love how he put his older, more realistic avatars in a cage
I absolutely love when you talk about alchemy on the channel. Back when you were releasing all the Alola theories, Alchemy became a bit of a hyper fixation and I always found the spiritual aspects to it interesting. Fascinating mythos too.
If someone's wondering why you start talking about alchemy with Pokemon, they are very new here
Dude weren’t those theory videos like two years ago
When he started saying you're probably wondering why I'm bringing this up, all I could think was "because it all comes together."
Fun fact: I LOVE FMA, moreso brotherhood. I even have tge humunculus tattoo where greed has his marking. Left hand. I even often argue other sins are a form of greed, ultimately making greed the ultimate... As lust, gluttony, and even pride can be considered greedy sins.
Surprised to see there was no mention of Green, being a clone in the games, I think its kind of implied due to her weird connection with mewtwo, blaine mentioning her and also the number of pods in the basement in that game matching up with the movie special
On a whim, I was scrolling through my recommendations, then I saw a funny image of Mewtwo with the words "HOMO" in big bold letters
Your finding alchemy layered deep into the Pokémon lore is one of my favorite things in the series to date. I’ve been around since plain gameboy days. And all of these potential threads leading back through all of Pokémon makes my heart so happy! To see an underlying theme that could tie the entire series and it’s stories together is beautiful!! Simply beautiful!
I’m still laughing at the picture he chose for the “Scientist” at 3:17 😂
Mewtwo isn't a Homunculus. If Humans are Homunculus and Animals are animalculus then obviously Mewtwo is a Pokemonculus.
In all seriousness, fun video. I've missed FMA.
Humans are animals
@@seich-of-lacan-getter514 And, in the Pokémon world, humans are Pokémon.
Wtf dude.... "Is there a never ending supply of mailmen?!" I love the randomness of that. Then again, you have slowly been opening up throughout the years to be more comical in your videos. Keep up the good work.
10:40 “Why was a pail the first thing I thought of?”
Because, buckets are intrinsically tied to human comfort, reassurance, happiness, and stability. Just ask Stanley
technically genes expression by itself could explain the differences between Mew and Mewtwo, but mixing in some human genome is strongly implied in many sources
“All in an attempt to bring her back in some form.”
Sounds familiar in a way
Bonus points, Ambertwo actually had memories from the original amber. Just as most fossil pokemon are shown remembering their lives from before they died to become a fossil. It isn't JUST cloning devices these guys made, it's full on resurrection.
Yeah, the Animalculus sounds quite Ridiculus
The story with baby mewtwo and amber makes me cry every time I watch when she is fading away,, but as she was dying, she told mewtwo don't cry, and thst life is wonderful, a good prolife message that has always stuck with me.
1:47 "But don't think that it's just the recent Pokemon, look at Gen 5's Legendary Trio" the fact that Gen 5 is no longer considered recent makes me feel old, but Black and White 2 were 10 years ago
Probably should've put a warning on those tumors. That was fully disturbing.
There is a warning though, even flashing red ^^
6:56
I wonder what Spookymook was up to...
*Lillie wearing a lab coat studying Silvally note creates and freezes her very own mewtwo*
In an emergency you never know when you need somebody.
*She smile exactly like her very own Mother*
You never know when you need go Ultra or Ultimate too.
She would never freeze a pokemon!!!!!!
I like how at 6:47 Dobbs is a failed Lockstin clone. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, really solid video; the editing and sound are all so good. Great job you guys. :)
Mewtwo can't be a homunculus without a large [REDACTED]
Update: I was thinking of the wrong definition of "homunculus."
3:17 That Johnny Sins cameo was just so funny!
There's a possibility that there _is_ a Homunculus in the Pokémon Games - or at least in *one* particular reality...
In _Let's Go! Pikachu_ and _Let's Go! Eevee,_ the possibility that an 'AmberTwo' actually *survived* and exists: *[This is my personal explanation for her Survival]* In an inverse process to the creation of Mewtwo, Dr. Fuji's Daughter's DNA was interlaced with a small amount of Mew DNA from the very same Fossil, with the intention of increasing the chances of mental reconnection with her ingrained consciousness; this was different to how AmberTwo was made in the Anime Short, and could be why she didn't survive the integration process; because of this, Mewtwo awoke much calmer than in the Anime, with AmberTwo (later renamed to *Green!* ) keeping the Pokémon in check until it was picked up by Giovanni...
The two Clones never saw each other again - this led to a similar result in the other Continuities, where Mewtwo broke out of Giovanni's control and escaped to Cerulean Cave. *Green* (Amber's Clone) however, had some struggles with her new Life: the Mew DNA that helped her survive the Cloning Process also gave her Instincts and Senses more akin to a Pokémon, and explaining the reasons to her caused a misunderstanding that Humans were very similar to Pokémon in nature, and She was created stronger than natural Humans; when Green became of Age to become a Pokémon Trainer, her first instinct with any new encounter would be to throw a Pokéball at it!
Hearing of Mewtwo in rumours and Gossip, something long dormant in Green's memory clicked, and reawoke her connection with Mewtwo. She decided to become strong enough to be given entry to Cerulean Cave, and be the One who catches Mewtwo - so they could finally be together again for eternity...
1:09... is that a "thick" Alcremie?... (inner baker/chef kicks in) somebody needs to add more milk, needs more fluids otherwise the cream won't spread easily... no matter how I try to word that it sounds dirty.
At least you made an effort, a futile effort, but an effort none the less
@@crimsonemperor2219
Yeaaah, calling it a "thick" alcremie was the joke, and then I was going to play it strait laced with some serious stuff... but any words involved... yep nothing but futility, just kept spiraling deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.
A minor point of in game evidence for Mewtwo being a homunculus is that in the Let’s Go games (yeah I know they’re technically a spin-off and thus dubiously canon, but considering they’re the most current retread of Kanto I’m willing to say “close enough”) Leaf/Green/Blue depending on what you want to call her as her name varies across media, is heavily implied to be an in game substitute for Amber in the Pokémon movie. Seeing as she has little memories of life before meeting the player-perhaps Mewtwo attempting to cause her amnesia in order to hide better; you can fight her in Cerulean Cave-an area well known for Mewtwo and that almost no trainer goes there; she has the Mewtwo Mega stones that she gives to you upon beating her; and she cannot easily tell the difference between human and Pokémon by asking the player “would you like to be my Pokémon too?” likely due to being developed as a clone of Fuji’s daughter that grew up in a test tube with Mewtwo. A lot of this is explained better in MatPat’s Game Theory video of the same topic which I would recommend watching. All in all though, if Leaf IS meant to be an Amber stand-in it makes the likelihood of Mewtwo having human DNA much higher as Fuji could’ve used some of hers. This may even explain one of Mewtwo’s weird design characteristics-his massive thighs. There’s no real in lore explanation as to why his thighs are so big seeing as his Mega forms both have smaller thighs, Y especially with X’s being a little smaller but much more muscular meaning that such large thighs are perhaps a slight detriment in combat, something that Fuji would have probably genetically modified to not happen; that is, unless he took some of his daughter’s DNA to make Mewtwo and along with his more human attributes and intelligence the large thighs came as a slight side effect. It would also explain why such a feminine trait would be on such a masculine Pokémon (yes I know Mewtwo’s genderless but a LOT of media refers to him as ‘he’ and considering his VA for the original movie that seems to be the intent of the designers.) It’s honestly the only explanation for his thighs that makes sense other than some designer was just down bad one day-which given what Mewtwo’s original VA sounded like might’ve been the point-but isn’t a valid enough explanation for just one attribute of his body, especially when Pokémon designers want to do a more adult design like Lopunny or Salazzle they commit to it throughout.
Honestly it's been something I only notice every once in awhile with Mewtwo, the 'overly feminine' hips and thighs. And that's only because you can't avoid it on certain sites that we don't talk about in polite company.
The only problem with Mewtwo's design being evidence for female human DNA being used is you also have overtly masculine female Pokemon like machamp or Mr. mime. Its unlikely they thought that far when designing them, especially considering back then sprites were designed first, then they worked backwards to create the official art and such.
I do think however that its still likely Dr. Fuji used his daughter's DNA, or at least his own if not both. Not only does it make sense to if humans are considered a higher lifeform, but Fuji was also secretly working on cloning his daughter while using Mewtwo's creation as a means of research and testing.
Naturally the best way to do that would be to use actual human DNA so as to more easily extrapolate the process. If it worked for Mewtwo then it should in theory work for Amber.
Nah, is just Game Freak never acknowledge female players are a thing until recent years.
Those scientists knew what they were doing when they built MewTwo with a double decker BBL.
No Pokémon has any business being that THICC
"You're probably wondering why I'm bringing up alchemy in a Pokémon video."
Nah, I've been on this channel for quite a while.
I have the feeling that the thumbnail might not go over that well.
Ya
Yeah, for people looking for drama. Anyone who actually watches the video would easily be able to tell that the word Homo is referring to the prefix and not a slur.
@@k.d.2589 Not a slur, a clickbait
@@ciello1195 I can't tell what you're saying. Are you saying the thumbnail is clickbait or that some people would call it clickbait?
@@k.d.2589 I'm saying the issue about the thumbnail wouldn't be people think he used homo as a slur. If there's going to be an issue, it would be using the word homo during pride month as an attention grab when people are scrolling through
...You didn't mention Mewtwo's megas. This also plays into my theory for Green, why gamefreak stated her and Leaf are 2 different people.
I'll get to Green in a bit that's a whole other paragraph, this one is for Mega Mewtwo. As I always viewed its megas as awakenings for it, if it uses Y it accepts its Pokemon origins, and realizes it is unique, not just another clone of Mew giving it a new form, and while ironically this makes it shrink to Mew's size and look more like Mew, it is its own being, now far more powerful with its psychic powers than any other Pokemon, stat wise it even surpasses Arceus the God of Pokemon, the only other Pokemon to do so are Primal Groudon and kyogre that are slghtly weaker, and Mega Rayquaza who has the same stat total as Mega Mewtwo. Meanwhile Mewtwo X is it realizing its human attributes, thus it looks more human, gains the fighting type and grows in size (even though regular Mewtwo is already taller than average human).
Ok... my Leaf Green theory (pun intended)... Leaf and Green are the game equivalents to Fuji's daughter. Now originally this might have not been the case, Green was cut from the game because not enough data, however after many years and the movie, Leaf came out, and then even more time goes by we finally get Green in PE to which gamefreak explicitly states they are 2 different characters... thus multiverse and being Amber. Green was a successful Amber (or maybe Green is just her name in the games, I'm still going to utilize Amber for reference towards the failed clone), hidden away by Giovanni maybe, or Fuji, because they are still new to this world. At some point Green is released, or maybe she runs away, and tries to find Mewtwo, hence why you run into her in Cerulean Cave. She then tries to catch you, because she honestly doesn't know the difference between Pokemon and people, she thinks of them all as the same, she's naive, and like Mewtwo thinks anyone can be her friend. That you got to Mewtwo 1st she must catch you then you can both be her friend. Meanwhile Leaf is either a successful clone that is integrated and grows up like a normal human girl, or... maybe she is the original, she never died isn't a clone, which also means either Fuji could be Red's dad too, maybe Red himself is a clone since they're swaps, or the more likely, and because they 1 didn't think this thought through back then so they just have the same mom, or despite being the same NPC sprite they are 2 different moms, and Leaf exists in a world where Red either isn't born or lives elsewhere in the world...
wheeew, anyways, in summary Leaf exists when either Red doesn't or isn't in Kanto, and is most likely the original not cloned and alive, or (the least likely case) is a clone that grew up like any other regular person. Amber is the movie version and dies while Amber 2 also dies, and Green is the successful clone in the games that wasn't integrated into society, possibly hidden away for who knows how long. While I don't believe Red is a clone could also explain his lack of father, however... if Red is the son of Fuji then he wouldn't have had the motivation to make the clone.
How is this relevant to Mewtwo?... well aside from obviously the possible connection between Green and Mewtwo in PE like Amber and Mewtwo, like Mewtwo would this make her a homunculi? What other homunculi could be roaming around the Pokemon world? While seemingly disproven, that theory of Ditto being failed clones would that make Ditto a homunculi? Are there other human Homunculi? Other Pokemon? Could Kris be one because she didn't make it into the remakes and was replaced by Lyra.
I also know the irl reason Pokemon protags never have fathers is a reflection on Japanese society same with Earthbound why Ness' dad is a phone, why many Japanese games or anime don't have 1 or both parents. I was just using it for an in game theory possible reasoning.
My theory is that, perhaps due to “the war” surge talks about or due to some other pressure, what was originally a basic research mission became a mission to create not just the ultimate Pokémon, but the ultimate soldier. But even the smartest Pokémon, Alakazam, simply did not have the sort of brutality needed for a soldier. It could follow brutal orders, but it would not give them.
But what IF….
5:36 A question asked by both psychologists and poor men coming home from work early and finding their wife in compromising positions with the local postal service worker.
I know this is a bit nitpicky, but Mewtwo wouldn't be a homunculus, because he is definitionally not human. Even if he has dna, he's not genetically similar enough to fit into the reproductive species model.
2:40 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
In Detective Pikachu had Mewtwo also human DNA if I remember correctly. At least Bill Nighy was transormed into Mewtwo at the end. (what is funny because Bill Nighy fits soooo good in these monster roles. He also played Davy Jones in Pirates of the Caribbean and he played a Vampire Lord in Underworld)
I always assumed they used human DNA to make mewtwo by combining it with mew and ditto was a failed attempt and were creating artificial pokemon as a test or byproduct such as testing out making artificial voltorb trying to bring back hisuian ones and made grimer and muk as a result.
I love how mewtwo was just in your pocket
I saw this thumbnail and I got actually scared, most likely due to it being 2 in the morning
The thumbnail is homophobic!
Hmm. As interesting as this theory is, a friend of mine told me a different theory involving Mewtwo.
While it's easy to think Mew's DNA was spliced with other DNA to create a bigger, stronger creature, Mew (supposedly) has DNA in common with all Pokémon.
So... what if Mewtwo resembling a more evolved mew is because they stripped out the counter productive bits? Baby Pokémon, first stages, second stages- leaving just the DNA of fully evolved, far stronger Pokémon? It would also explain why Mewtwo lacks the absurd movepool of Mew (though it *does* have a longer list than most...).
3:19 That Johnny Sins so casually thrown in there.
Wow so glad mewtwo came out for pride month, based off of that thumbnail
Good for him, good for him
Can we just have a whole video With you just ranting about alchemy for a couple hours
11:39 This just shows how too many people conflate the concept of "canon" with "continuity". Just because it's not the same officially-made continuity doesn't mean the worldbuilding within said officially-made continuity is inherently meaningless.
I've seen various depictions of a concealed Mewtwo in a orb capsule, just like the homunculi in round bottles
A pokémon video mentioning foot fetish was not something I was expecting to watch ever, but ok
could type: nul and sivally also be a chimera homunculus
I forgot pokemon weren't real for a second and went, "wait i thought homunculuses were just a concept and didn't really exist"
Mewtwo, you looking a little... less psychic type today
Great intro, editing, content as always. Thanks for this awesome video!
My first thoughts of a video in pride month with the words "HOMO" and a arrow to Mewtwo, were "Good for them", then I read the title
Also notice lockstins heavy blue and pink aesthetic as of late.
Its "homo" with a derpy/stupid looking Mewtwo. I personally find it a littly offensive to be honest
@@TheEldritchKnight1317 I don't think he's trying to offend. The mewtwo is referencing cortical homunculus, and lockstin always does silly stuff with the thumbnails
@@limeyell0w945 Homunculus is spelled with an U. Homu. Making "homo" out of it in pride month is really questionable. I'm not saying he's homophobic or something but it's still a questionable and unnecessary choice
@@TheEldritchKnight1317 I think he's just making a silly pun, as it's not even referenced in the video
Mewtwo prime was the pre special split Mewtwo, op as all heck, every Mewtwo caught by players, by every player is a clone, Mewtwo recovered and kept the vats, keeping them at the bottom of the pool in Cerelean Cave!
6:21 also in the book the doctor used alchemical texts to help bring back the dead.
I suppose if clones do count then yeah 100% Mewtwo does, and you equally 100% used my theory. After I found out about the manga while sure not canon, I think them implying Mewtwo with human genes, makes think this was the intention, the question then becomes who's? My thoughts are obviously Fuji, or Giovanni, I think in the movie's case it was Fuji, the games could be either. Also while you said the english mistranslated this is fixed a bit in FRLG since there's a picture in the lab on Cinabar I think that has Blaine and Fuji, so I think they both totally made Mewtwo in the games, then in the movie just Fuji, and the manga it was just Blaine (I think I haven't actually read them yet).
You also didn't mention the megas, its possible connection to Leaf and Green the characters, I'll leave it in another comment otherwise this will be too lnog and no one will want to read it.
It’s a mutant clone made via the big wide world of bastardized science.
3:16 There's something familiar about that scientist, oh well, probably nothing.
curse my squeamish self for looking away from the video when the gore warning was there and then glancing back at the video at the absolute worst time x_x
this video is super interesting though, and that intro was amazing!
oh no hes talking about alchemy again
Homunculus? animalculous? ...Pokemunculus
There is a very basic problem with the concept that Mewtwo has human DNA in the anime version. It is very clear in the Japanese version that clones are horribly unstable and that, to advance the science, they realized they required the DNA of a pokémon with enough psychic power to stabilize itself as it is being cloned. In order to find such a powerful pokémon to clone, an expedition is needed to find the DNA and an expensive cloning lab. However, funds were running low.
So, Giovanni stepped up, with the request that, in addition to advancing the cloning research, the scientists would create a clone of Mew more powerful than the original. Something Fuji reluctantly agreed with.
With all of that set-up; Why would Fuji then decide, 'We're already taking risks with the stability of this mew clone by experimenting on it; Let's make it even more horribly unstable by throwing non-pokémon DNA in there too!'. I don't think it makes sense for the kind of experiment they were running. Maybe down the line, a human clone with mew DNA would be created to see if the psychic power of the mew parts of the body would stabilize the cloning process. But for Mewtwo, it just doesn't make sense.
Also, something else; It is suggested that Amber and Ambertwo were psychic. In the movie, Amber's pod contained only a glowing light, which was probably because a girl kept in stasis might have been too disturbing for the movie's audience, especially seeing how the movie already had some disturbing imagery. But Ambertwo, despite being only a light in the movie, is still conscious of everyone around her and Fuji is about to measure her brain activities, again creating the sense that Fuji is aware that Ambertwo is verifiably like Amber.
just came up with a theory, cloneing mew and getting dittos. if the ditto dna becomes sentient when the blob is big enough maybe mew and mewtwo were atempts that remembered when it was still a mew and it was practiceing and devolped a powerful form.
and mew eventully forgot how to transform back into itself and either and before they completly stobed the oldest non mew ancestor still reverted when it died, then pokemon evolve cuz they are adapting to there enviornment or or its decendents became a more refined version of itself.
what a title
SpongeBob Reference executed perfectly 👌🏾
The mystery gift of gen 3, faraway Island old Sea map, the only sign there says something like 'i hope the next human to step in this island is a kind hearted soul' which could imply mr fuji brought mew FARAWAY to hide it from humanity after all the research conducted on it as a way of atoning for his mistakes
So in Japan, Mewtwo and Shadow the Hedgehog have about the same backstory... huh. I wonder why.
It's also funny how in spinoffs (melee and all stars racing) both characters mumble out of context comments like "why am I here?" or "who are you? how do you know my name?".