2021 Toyota Sienna | MotorWeek Road Test
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- When looking for a daily driver to haul your brood and their friends around, it’s hard to beat a minivan. And while they continue to get a bad rap, they also soldier on, being the most practical vehicle on the road. While innovating and changing the segment along the way. And here’s the latest game changer: the new Toyota #Sienna. All aboard!
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There's absolutely no reason to buy an SUV over a minivan, unless you do heavy towing. This thing can carry the whole family, some friends, and a lot of stuff, all while consuming substantially less fuel than an SUV with similar capabilities.
Ground clearance, awd system differences, handling, luxury options, power, and of course like you said towing are all differences. Not everyone needs to seat 8 people all the time and just need the third row once a month for a quick trip.
@@shanet7511 @Shane T Fact is that most 4x4s and especially SUVs spend their entire lives doing shopping trips in urban environments, which means their capabilities are wasted. Having a 4x4 while living in the forest or mountains is of course justified.
It doesn't matter whether a person needs 3 rows all the time, because the Sienna will still be more fuel efficient than other vehicles with similar capacity.
Power etc. is a matter of taste, but I've never felt the need for a V8 when I'm sitting in traffic.
@@Tuppoo94 Most modern crossovers aren't even offroad capable, it's really a shape. The Highlander hybrid gets the same mpg.
@@shanet7511 If you have 3 or more kids you should go minivan. The interior space as well as cargo space behind the third row is so much better. You’d have to step up to a Suburban to get similar amounts of space.
A SUV is only appropriate if you plan on towing over 3500 regularly. You’re passengers will be much happier in a minivan.
Toyota did an awesome job with the new sienna, smart on them for going all hybrid, even though I will miss the v6 so much
The might have left it as an option.
For those who actually tow with the mini van the V6 option would be welcome.
@@stephenpowstinger733 nope all hybrid
MotorWeek does not know the difference between CVT and Toyota's e-CVT, they are completely different. The e-CVT is way more reliable and better.
Alex on Autos does a great job of explaining the ingenious design of Toyota’s electric generator unit drivetrain. I think if Toyota didn’t market it as an E-CVT they’d have even more interest. Not to mention citing the mileage that taxi drivers get on one drivetrain.
I had a 2016 Sienna. A very reliable and good vehicle.
This new one is kind of ugly compared to my old one.
I was just thinking the previous toyota van was ugly and this one actually looked good for once. Body style is super subjective. Id never pay 35k for a family car though
The 90s Minivans rocked!!! The Previa and Lumina MPV were my favs!
Chevy AstroVan 4.3 v6 awd :)
My favorite older minivan is the Mazda MPV. For current models, the Honda Odyssey.
My Grandparents had a blue Lumina APV LS. It was in such good condition when they traded it in 18 years after purchase.
Whenever Motorweek gives the annual "barrels of oil" and "CO2 footprint" information, it's always useless information. I always think, Compared to what?? Motorweek should show HOW those numbers compare to the AVERAGE for the vehicle segment. Telling me that this van will produce 4.1 tons of CO2 in a year doesn't help me unless you compare it to something.
Apparently the second row is not removable due to there being seat mounted airbags to better protect children. Allowing people to disconnect airbag systems in seats doesn’t seem like the best idea so they made them fixed in the sliding tracks. Personally, I’d much prefer my kids, which will be riding in the car WAY more than long building supplies will, to be a bit safer from side impact crashes. Historically, side impact crashes were a weak point for vans because of the massive gaps between pillars A&B due to the sliding doors. You could probably cover up the 2nd row seats with thick blankets and slide 4x8 plywood in on it’s side, resting between the 2nd row seats anyway. I’d love to get one of these after they’ve been on the market for a year or two.
Personally, I don’t like manufacturers deciding for me what I can or can’t do when it is technically possible and I know what I’m doing with respect to safety.
For example, I could always release my emergency break as needed. Now the car “tells” me to depress the brake pedal first and leave it in firmly.
I feel that the lack of removable seats will mostly be an issue once these hit the used markets as lots of businesses buy Siennas as work vans second hand, but I hear it's only a few bolts and a connector to disconnect to remove the seats semi-permanently. Also bear in mind a 3,500 lbs. towing capacity means it can handle towing a 5x8 utility trailer, which are cheap to rent and can take more of a beating than the interior trim.
@@stephenpowstinger733 Does it matter if the car suggests for you to slow down?
@Stephen Powdexter: Totally get that, I don’t like the car telling me what to do either. In a perfect world, I’d have a manual in my family car. Maybe I should go the other way and get a classic family car. I love Jay Leno’s Garage video of his Plymouth Suburban. That’ll make you wish for simpler times every time.
I remember that first Toyota van in the United States. Shortly after Mitsubishi and Nissan came out with models based on exactly that same design. They were Asian market cars rushed into the US. They did not do that well. The Mitsubishi version was called the wagon. Cargo versions of each was also available
@@emeyer6963 they were actually recalled for repeated fire issues. Most stemmed from dealers not bothering to perform recalls, but claimed they did.
@@bluefever02 You are absolutely right.I was selling Nissan's back then too.Must be getting old
the shift console should bei removable.
The heated steering wheel is only heated on 10 and 2 position! Why so cheap Toyota?!
That is utter garbage
@@atl3630 yup! TMC is on the cheap. I have heard Lexus is the same...crap company!
Please tell me what's wrong with a CVT. Does everyone like to feel the jerkiness of gear changing?
No, they hate the rubber band feel if it.
Is this the cvt Toyota bought from Ford?
@@stephenpowstinger733 What does that mean exactly? I drive a Nissan Murano and I don't feel any "rubber band" working in the car!
@Frugal Family Living Oh, I see. I don't get that in my Murano. I always get instant power and acceleration.
You'll need to research the toyota eCVT. The only thing it has in common with belt style CVT is three letters. It does not use belts. It is based off of a variable ratio planetary gear system. No clutches, no belts. Pretty ingenious design.
also if Toyota can make the sliding doors more reliable.. they eventually break and cost a ton to fix.. just give us a manual door
I'm glad the Sienna still looks good. What Toyota did to the new Highlander should be illegal. They took what was just about the best looking SUV in the segment and made it look like a fuglier Rav 4.
Since there was no mention of a V6 option I'm going to guess that was dropped. Based on the 1/4 mile performance I'd say a tire swap would get the FWD version to 60 in about 7.4 seconds which isn't too bad. I'll be interested to see what the AWD model can do, hopefully under 7 seconds due to the rear motors.
The 2nd row is no longer removable?!?!? No!!!! I’ve had the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation sienna. I only buy siennas. Not looking forward to this like I thought
420dportkid due to airbags
Although I haven’t watched it, there is a TH-cam somewhere that shows how the Sienna hybrid middle seats can be removed (and disconnected).
Four bolts, two plugs. Ten minutes.
Although you need to put in a resistor to keep the airbag warning light from turning on. Additionally from my understanding is the overall vehicle airbag system will not work if the warning light is on.
A lot of the new tng architecture vehicles while bigger on paper, feel smaller in person on the inside a lot of times.
This new Sienna looks huge outside but it is not on the inside. The rear looks a bit cramped if anything and the lack of removable 2nd row seats is a problem.
I told the salesman, as I looked over a pretty XLE, I was interested in the XSE. He downplayed the idea. I guess they didn’t have one on hand.
2. No removable 2nd seats? A serious problem for heavy cargo users.
3. Compares to Highlander. Should compare to Odyssey.
4. Then he compares mpg to Camry. Should compare it to Chrysler Pacifica hybrid.
5. Anyway, I like Motorweek. Sienna has some strong selling points.
Damn bro, why does it matter who he compares to, motorweek themselves compared 20% more cargo room than Highlander. You’re over there wasting that poor kids time I think you should stick with online research.
Hey, Motorweek has always been my favorite vehicle reviewer. I’m just messing with them ...and all vehicles are imperfect.
@@stephenpowstinger733 the Pacifica does get 83 mpge.
It is also Consumer Reports No. 1 minivan.
That 'grille' ugh.
Agreed. Too much plastic. Bring back the bumper.
Parkwaypro uhhh...the bumpers are also plastic.
1:34 why do car manufacturers think that it’s so smart and space saving to give you a hole in the center console? Just make it a bench front seat with a fold up center console and you have room for another passenger!
Safety regulations. Auto makers have to deal with a lot of safety regulations. Some times it might not be what they want but what regulations allow
Because they have actual collected data on what buyers want.
Who the hell would have 3 across in the front? 1960 called, they recalled your brain
@@citationbob LOL I have a 2015 F-150. We use it to tow our boat and we are so glad to be able to carry 6 people.
36mpg combined for a minivan is fucking impressive honestly
Then PacHy has been here for years with 83 mpge.
@@normt430
The Pacifica Hybrid is impressive but it drops to 30mpg after the battery is drained
@@CrazyWeeMonkey perfect for most of us.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey the Sienna Hybrid is only averaging 32.9 on fuelly dot com right now. That is over 3 mpg less than EPA combined. Conversely the PacHy with Attikinson V6 and 32 miles of battery range is seeing 60-120 mpg on fuelly. That is double or quadruple the Sienna Hybrid for daily tasks.
@@normt430 Better do your research, man. You're hallucinating
I'm sure the rear seat will come out with basic tools, it just wont be an easy click lock system.
And disconnecting the airbag wiring...
@@Kevin-ch4qo it should be a clip unplug
5:20.............Could you post the tests of the Previa, original Sienna, & Wonderwagon/Van as RR's soon?!!!!! This COULD be my new ride soon!!!
Testdrivejunkie
I saw one of these on my dealers lot and standing next to it you can actually look down on the roof! They shrunk sienna at least 3 or 4 inches in height for efficiency. I never got inside but was astonished how small it now looks!
Looks more like a sports car than a regular soccer mom's van! I love the interior, and now comes with the center console separating both front passenger, and driver.....talk about social distancing eh? 🤣
Wow, that is ugly. Why such a huge grille on a hybrid?
Is it me or does this car look like a Lexus
The Pacifica Pinnacle is a Lexus Sienna!
My 2005 Sienna has 150 cf of cargo space when the 3 middle seats are removed which is very easy for me. It can easily fit 4ft x 8ft objects.
My Sienna is still running flawlessly like new at 303K miles without having to rebuild or replace anything major. Yes, struts, shocks, fuel pump, iced cold AC, paint, electric windows, fuel injectors and power steering are still original.
I dont like "VANS" but this is NICE😏
Why the brand new 2021 Sienna review made me think this is a 90's video, like the color, the video quality, and the tone all belong to the last century, nice content though.
that’s MotorTrend’s style lol! very retro
That's why we love watching these videos
@@evdanielsson7 MotorWeek
We just rented a minivan and I’m totally ok with buying one.
Insurance rates are better also.
I was surprised to learn that the new Sienna comes with ventilated rear brakes. Why is this? Do other minivans do? are they expecting big break loads? Being a hybrid I would expect most of the brake load to be done by the electric motors.
My guess, and it's just a guess, is that during regen, most of your FRONT braking is done by the electric motors and somehow they figured the rears would have to be vented. Well, that and this thing weights around 4700 without anyone sitting in it. It's a pig, but it's an efficient pig.
Very nice. Excellent road vehicle. Basically where this van tips out is where big SUVs start out. I guess considering all wheel drive and the efficient hybrid system, it is a bargain.
need this one in Sweden
no, not all aboard
i want my v6, traditional automatic, and attempt at looking good back
Why did you leave out the obnoxious noise levels the engine makes at full throttle? And why does tOYota refuse to put the 20” wheels on awd versions?!
Why 2nd row is not removable? That’s stupid
Airbag built into the 2nd row seats - Toyota doesn’t want you disconnecting airbag wiring
For one, air bags, two; heated seats, and ottomans (certain trim levels) plus this van seems to be target it towards family, most families are not going to be taking out the seats. There are commercial vans for those that need more space back there, sure maybe you will do a trip here and there to the hardware store, but it's not something you might do on a regular basis and it's not like every time you head over to the hardware store, you buy large items, I would think, because if you did, you would have a truck, commercial van, or other large vehicle to accommodate. This mini van is not targeted towards commercial use.
Who's the redhead?
I'll take the pacifica for two reasons stow n go seats , 3.6 engine for styling also
If only it had Toyota's reliability.
@@mtnx7 Ha! 😅
And it will lose 95 pct of its value in 4 years and will fall apart after 50000 miles
@@citationbob I've had more Chrysler, dodge's all over 250thousand miles no problems had a ford product lasted 4 yrs , Forester lasted 2 yrs ! I'll stick with mopar family
@@mtnx7 Consumer Reports rated No. 1 is the Pacifica!
Love the v-6 and 6 speed tranny! and been waiting for this review. PI yes ecvt is a great technology . I am waitng for the vaccum to come out then we will see. also waiting for bugs to be worked out. Not sure it has great passing power in the hills of the NE. I have watched video's. Interesting! I would get AWD. If it has electric motors in the rear does it also have that center driveshaft bearing?
The rear motor is just that...a motor. There is no mechanical linkage to the front, just 3 wires to feed the juice to the motor.
Great minivan. Weakest point will be the CVT transmission.
This man is amazing
Omg there is no way I'm touching the fwd model after that burnout... just imagine making a right hand turn into traffic in the rain😳
So who floors the accelerator in the rain, especially during a turn?
@@bechtoea people with AWD.
@@thebaddestogre-3698 Great, you can get both ends losing traction at the same time....wonderful.
@@bechtoea did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Or is this the normal you speaking?
Oo oo ahh oo oo ahh Oo oo ahh goes the minivan 🚐
36 mpg is all well and good but what is that Hybrid system going to do to my Nurburgring lap times?
Slower because all of the fuel stops compared to PacHy which can make it around twice on a single charge!
Toyota owners are so blind to style they wont see the ugly until after purchase, then head to a body shop asking what happened to their front bumper.
So we're going backwards (literally and figuratively) to the 90's with vans having 4 cylinder engines? No way.
Volt meter?
Definitely will miss that sweet 2gr v6 and i could buy a 2010 sienna without thinking twice if it was in good shape , less so a hybrid.
That much tire squeal during acceleration - do they come from the factory with efficiency tuned tires?
I wonder if anyone puts limited-slip differential on FWD.
@@stephenpowstinger733 only performance FWD like golf GTI, fiesta/focus ST, Mini Cooper S. Many of which you STILL have to option for if they are sold. I’d be happy to pay another 1k for a mechanical LSD even in a economy car.
It has a lot of torque...well over 300 ft lbs if some of the other online reviews are to believed. AWD is needed just to get the power down.
The middle seats don’t come out?!?!?
Damn, his style hasn't changed in 30 years. He is like a small block just chugging along.
Try 40 years.
That's annoying, I would really be constantly annoyed at not being able to remove the second row. even to clean something, removing the seats helps. also for Cargo and Tools and other stuff. That's pretty sucky. I'm glad I read that because the second row needs removed for motorcycles and bricks and whatnot.
So buy something else, no one is forcing you to buy a Sienna.
Ford Transit Connect?
I think they figured the demographic of the typical family has a crew cab pickup truck or SUV as a 2nd car and that would be a fair assumption, judging from what I see these days.
You're barking at the wrong fence. Really, you need pick up truck.
on the fence 0w16oil???? not sure if my dealer has loaner . dealer 40 miles away/ question prime on the radar?
Awesome van review & Happy 40th!!!
What do you think of Toyota not offering a gas version for its updated and new look Sienna and Venza? I think it would have worked. It would be about $3,000 to $4,000 lower on the gas version, and then keep the Hybrid as an option.
Some folks may see that 160MPH speedo limit and laugh, but throw a Lexus V8 in that engine bay, strip out the interior, lower it four inches, and put some lightweight wheels on it and I'd be fairly confident that a shape that aerodynamic could peg that needle!
And where exactly are you going 160mph or even 100mph Einstein?
Zazur house 🏠
If this only comes with a four cylinder, I'm not paying 51,000 dollars if I can't get a v6 with at least 300hp.What a joke
Starting price is $35k
I'm wondering if they fixed the rust issue on the rear wheels????
Which makes it the world's largest Prius.. LOL
If I had kids and a family, I would get a minivan. Who am I trying to fool?
1st
..but no voltmeter or oil pressure guage?!
The voice like prayer’s in church.
I am glad that Toyota is doing it's part to help save our world, even during a pandemic too. But, plug-in hybrids no good for someone like me, I would not be able to plug it into a regular outlet in my parking spot, due to the auto sense outlet....the one made only for block heaters, and no way I would be able to run an extension cord to the van....I live in a condominium....already had a cord stolen by someone. Otherwise, the best looking interior yet for Sienna....and, I rode in them before.....very powerful, quite, and smooth ride! I bet the CVT makes the gear shifting type of drive even better.....no shifts at all!
Why are Toyotas deliberately designed to be ugly? Does Stevie Wonder head their design studio or something?
Could be why Toyota salesmen act embarrassed when you ask to see the product.
Help. I still need to watch this (Netflix binge in progress). Looking forward to buying Sienna, but worry it is first generation. But I reassure myself by saying it’s components have been proven in Toyota's other models. Am I wrong or am I right?!
Toyota is very reliable, even with an all-new generation, for many reasons. Many parts are shared across multiple models and they go through an insanely long and strenuous testing process to make sure every part on the vehicle is up to their standards. I have a 2020 Corolla (the first year of the 12th generation) and have had zero problems with it (in March I will have had it a full year.) I also drive a lot, and would only ever trust a Toyota to get me where I need to go every time. Anyway, the new Sienna’s power train and platform are greatly shared with the 2020+ Highlander Hybrid; so, you can expect the kinks to have been worked out already, if there were any to begin with.
I agree. The first gen is a lure. Betterto hokd off u til next year when they will most likely bring baxk the v-6
Don’t like the fixed glass on front doors
Spending 50K+ on a car and getting a 4 cylinder. PASS.
I've driven vans as rentals. Most have v6. I drove the new sienna and I could not tell the difference on acceleration, other than the engine getting a bit noisy because it's a 4 cylinder. The electrical motor has enough torque to make it feel as if it were a v6. If you think about it, how many times are you really going to need all the torque? But I understand that some people prefer to just have a v6. One thing to keep in mind, eventually v6 engines will start going away, just like v8 engines have. As technology and efficiency is pushed to have auto makers by all these fuel regulations.
It needs Honda’s Civic Type R four-banger at 300 hp.
...and only heated steering wheel at 10 and 2.
The Previas, to this day- while odd, finicky to maintain and likely under-powered- still have major cool points for a minivan.
Will it drift like the Supra?
Agree, we need it in Europe, please Toyota, Please! but in 8 seat conf.
Glad to know we have some vehicle advantages in U.S. Why do Europeans not use pickups?
@@stephenpowstinger733 we use them but there are much smaller. US cars seems to be too big for our roads and cities. when You have 3,4 kids minivan is the best. On Europe we have little choice, mostly diesel based on comercial vehicles, do we pray for Sienna Hybrid :)
Losing the V-6 was the one redeemable aspect of this vehicle, and now it is gone. Special thanks to Toyota that seems to hate enthusiasts.
@Allen S Forget the tire chirp. Slower than the Honda Odyssey with the V6.
@@digitaldoc100 we bought the 2020 odyssey exl mainly bc the sienna seats don't come out. It's also quite fast w the 10 spd auto. Oh, and the much higher price of the sienna.
It is not all Toyota's fault for getting rid off the V6. Thank regulations and regulators, all toyota is trying to do is meet those regulations,
@@asertiv1 Guess that goes back to "You get what you pay for." My issue with Toyota is not that they offered a hybrid four in the Sienna, it is that they took away any other option.
Quite a buzz-bomb in such a big car!
that nose looks huge
Looks like a road scraper!
Wonder how it does in snow
Leah MacDonald Toyota warning
NO, don't buy a Sienna. I paid full price new 47,500.00, at 20,000 km had to replace transmission (a rebuilt on warrenty) and at 89,000km had to replace engine. Paid 8000.00 for a rebuilt when I picked it up they giggled and said " I am just here to take her money". Problems with sliding door sensors, you end up using them on manual. Issue with water pump, huge blind spot when driving.
No more v6 😩
I4+CVT hybrid, no thanks. I’d much rather get a V6 mini van.
Are you concerned it can’t tow as much as the old V6? The hybrid engine is rated to tow 3,500 lbs which is the same rating as the V6
@@ikelee definitely a concern especially for those who live in very hilly and mountainous areas. That and I just don’t like having to rely on the e power side of things. For what I’d use a mini van for I’d rather a slightly thirstier under stress v6 then a juiced up I4.
Can Ford now bring back the Aerostar as an EV minivan?
Agree
That grille is almost as big as the windshield. What a hideous vehicle.
TOYOTA SIENNA 🤩 PERFECT
Except that heated steering is only 10 and 2?
cvt lol
John Davis is amazing
So what was your MPG?
The PacHy gets 83 mpge!
I got 38.1 on my last tank and with over 250 miles driven on this tank I'm getting 40.3 at the moment in my sienna hybrid. I drive about 160 miles a day with it. My previous best was 36mpg but then the temp went into the 50's and my mileage went up with it. Climate control not used much now
@@occckid123 with the Pacifica Hybrid and 33 miles free on battery and 30 mpg on gas it is using similar gasoline. But come the weekend or running errands around around town the PacHy would excel. Plus plugging in at.your local shopping center provides upfront and close to the door parkkng!
@@normt430 I was interested in the Pacifica Hy, especially with the attractive rebates they've had the past few years. but some owners have told me that mechanical issues, namely transmission issues, make it not a recommended buy.
@@cassysamel3914 there really no modern day minivan without reliability concerns. The Consumer Reports history actually show the Sienna since 2016 as being worse than Pacifica in reliability.
Following the PacHy Facebook page the discounting along with fed credit($7,500) make a good financial decision to sell and repurchase the PacHy every other year so just to get the current updates. You cannot do that with any other SUV or minivan today as they were breaking even or coming out ahead.
Plus the Honda Odyessy is lease only abd do not buy for a few years now.
I would like a large, black grille with a minivan attached. Toyota- we got you.
The new Kia Carnival is seeming more and more like the better buy. As compared to the older models the new Sienna has much less space, no bench seats on the second row, weak power, and the third row isn’t removable. Oh, and the heated steering wheel is on,y heated at 10 and 2.
I can't pinpoint it but Motorweek's scripted presentation style makes watching them a chore. I'd love if they updated their presentation style as I want them to succeed going forward.
Only Dumb as a cow would buy any ICE/hybrid 🚗....unless you have no choice.
Why?
It's freaking ugly, thats the best Toyota could do, look at the Pacifica, really a pretty minivan, or the Honda . The Sienna is not desirable ( in my opinion)
True. But the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I do like the Pacifica over the Honda. But Chrysler Fiat products don't particularly have a good reputation for being reliable. That's the only reason I would not purchase a chrysler Pacifica.
So much cheap plastic, front end looks like a vacuum and ugly bloated back end. Honda Odyssey looks way better.
Clearly "designed" to sweep the competition.
Did he mention the range or did I miss it?
18gallon fuel tank gives you 648 miles unladen. With 1,000lbs of family... probably a lot less
5:30 Better hope you don't blow the motor and shoot a rod through the block lol
Don’t worry, it’s not a Land Rover.
@@edrcozonoking or subaru lol
Looks better in person, but wow the interior quality has tanked compared to previous generations. Really cheap feeling. Would definitely not call it luxurious.
Say what I want? Okay, I’ll say what I want. I wouldn’t be caught dead owning a minivan and I’d rather be in Guantanamo than drive a CVT. Imagine how slow that van is going to be loaded to the brim with kids and cargo. If they can make an electric RAV4 with 300 hp do a 0-60 in 5.8 seconds then they can engineer a minivan that way.
They already make it. It's called the RAV4 Prime.
@@CynicalBastard511 You’re telling me as if I don’t know!
@@mervinprone Yeah, because you did sound like you didn't know.
5:28
oh cool, my van!
400,000 miles still running.
You can't remove the center rows????? Genius. Does the more expensive package have better AWD? That price difference for AWD between the trim levels.
4:47 That was nice.
@Frugal Family Living Looked cool from the outside.