BEST VIDEO SETTINGS ZV-E10 | Cinematic SLOG3 Workflow + FREE LUT
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This is a complete tutorial on how to get the BEST CINEMATIC SLOG3 footage from your ZV-E10 / A7C / Any Sony 8-bit camera. We go through the best camera settings, how to expose, and to edit.
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Sample Footage
1:27 - Best SLOG3 Settings
3:23 - How to shoot & expose SLOG3
7:45 - SLOG3 Disadvantage
8:22 - Editing SLOG3 (Free LUT)
17:21 - "1-Click" LUT Editing
20:33 - Footage Comparison
21:13 - Final Thoughts
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I forgot to put into the video to set your shooting mode as SHUTTER PRIORITY! That way you can set the exposure comp :)
Awesome video, one more subscribe!
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY :)))
When I change this I cant change the f anymore
@@enwhy yes, it goes automatic based on your exposure comp. If you go full manual, then you can't change the exposure comp. One needs to be auto for exposure compensation to turn on
Appreciate this man! This is pretty helpful for a beginner like me! props!
I found this video really helpful, thanks a lot.
Great info! Very helpful! Thanks:)
This was so good man, Highly informative stuff, Subscribed :))
Needed this!
Very clear information, Thanks
So clutch!!! THANK YOU!
Your video was very helpful man, thank you!
Glad it helped!
Nice work. Great information!!!
Thank you! Hope it helped shed some light on how to use SLOG3!
randomly checking slog3 tutorial and see my home town
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dude, this helped me SO MUCH. wow. thank you.
The legend himself! Haha Glad to hear dude!! Down to chat on IG if you have other questions!
@@VictorLaforteza hahahaha cool of you to say! I was always scared of using slog, let alone slog3, but i‘ve been trying it for the past few days to face my fears and so far it‘s been going well surprsingly! Slog 3 on my zve10 too! I do however use a +20 on saturation. And im still a long ways to go on the actual coloring, but i‘m feeling pretty good! Haha!
Thank you for this video, i used all the time my zv-e10 wrong, now i can make it better.
No wrong way to do it! Just different approach :) Enjoy! hope it makes a difference with this setting!
Wish I could get this camera really impressing
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the best video on s-log. I want to go back to crop cameras again) I'm from Kyrgyzstan, Bishkek
Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽 Also works on full frame!
Very good camera🔥
very good indeed
Hello I've just found this video. Does the auto-focus work with the photo shutter button when you recording a video with manual focus mode?
Which of your LUT's, exactly you used? Nice video! Can you do one about exposure compensation, logs, etc? Thanks!!
Sunset film - 1-Click LUT :) yes but it's gonna have to be another camera since I don't have the zv-e10 anymore :(
my camera actually i can set the manual exposure only at auto iso mode, how can i fix that
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Hey bro, im comparing whether to get this or the FX30 to start off my content creation journey. I love your grading vibes and wanted to follow something similar. Should i go for ZV E10 and then upgrade to FX30 later? Or should i just go all the way to FX30? I used A7m3 previously for work few years back but already sold it. Now im starting all over again 😅
Hey dude! Are you gonna use it for work too? If so, the fx30 should last you for years!
New to this. You seem like a really happy guy. I wasn’t until I noticed the big S, from shutter priority mode, lol. I assumed you had it on manual. I saw that and it was an aha moment. Your results are excellent. You have an eye for color. I like the idea of color correcting and color grading to get the best result. I checked out your product. So, is SLog only good for outdoor daytime shots? You said use PP off for indoor and evening. Thanks for making this😁
Yeah, I definitely forgot to mention to set it on Shutter priority mode!! For the ZV-E10 I do recommend slog for scenes with a lot of light so we can bypass the shadow noise. Low light we need to just use PP off or even HLG :)
Hi Victor, thank you for this very helpful video! I was wondering about when you said, "keep the ISO at 500." I understand going up will introduce lots of noise and "grain" to the image, but what about going down, like on a sunny day, going to 200, possibly 125, etc.?
Thanks again for this helpful tutorial!
You’re welcome! To expand on the base ISO which is 500 on this camera on slog, it gives you the best possible image in terms of dynamic range and noise. Every camera and picture profile is different! Going down the ISO values is okay but you might see a degrade in performance. Not a whole lot but it matters in post production when you have to fully utilize the dynamic range of a camera. Hope that helps! If you have any other questions feel free to ask 🙌🏽
@@VictorLaforteza Thanks a lot!
what is the native iso for slog2 ?
I'm on the lookout for my first mirrorless camera, upgrading from a DSLR. Currently, I'm considering the Sony a6500 or ZV-E10 (any thoughts on using Catalyst Browse with the ZV-E10?). My budget is around 400-650€ for a used or refurbished model. I'd prefer to stick with Sony for the E-mount, but it's not a deal-breaker if I find a better option elsewhere. My usage is roughly 60% video and 40% photography. It's important to me that the camera has good software and mobile support. I also want it to shoot 4K or higher video with IBIS or gyroscope support and preferably in 10 bit.
I'm planning to make the purchase around summer, so I'm open to waiting for new releases. Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! One last thing: I want to exclude the GH5. I know it's a great camera for the price and can shoot in 10-bit, but the Micro 4/3 sensor and poor autofocus don't suit my type of content, if the GH5 is only option in this price segment, then i might as well just pick it up.
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First off I loved the video and I’m really excited to try out slog 3 with my a6600! I do have a question. When I’m shooting in manual mode with the base iso of 500, I noticed that I can’t use exposure compensation unless iso is on auto and I currently don’t have a monitor capable of using false color. Am I suppose to manually over expose the image until it’s somewhere between 0.3 and 1.3 to get the proper exposure?
Sorry! I forgot to mention to put it on shutter priority mode at 1/50 :) that should activate exposure compensation!! Yes, it should be exposed to the right at 0.3 to 1.3. Always aim for higher value if you can do you have room in post and have cleaner shadows. I’d also like so recommend to test test test until you get the hang of it. Hope that helps!
Appreciate you clarifying this! Now what about when you are in bright light but want bokeh? I guess you just use a variable ND filter to make the aperture open wider again?
For SLOG3 settings - why do you set your exposure comp - then set an ISO after? Wouldn't you want the ISO on auto to make use of the exposure comp?
Yes and no, with SLOG3 on sony APSC cameras, you really want to set it on the base ISO which is 500 to get the best dynamic range and the best image out of it (noise levels are crazy with these cameras once you go above the 500 ISO).
The exposure comp is for the aperture only if you set the shoot mode on Shutter Priority Mode and set it to 1/50 (or double your frame rate), then the camera will be expose based on what exposure comp you set it to be. Good for run and gun filming and if you don't want to manually expose.
If you shoot fully manual, then you have the exposure comp set to 1.3 already and if you need to set the ISO to auto, it will be automatically be exposing for that set value.
Hope that makes sense! I guess I did leave out that I recommend shooting in shutter priority mode 🙃 any more questions, just ask! lol
@@VictorLaforteza gotchaaa - thank you SO much for that! man, I just recently got back into filming, picked up the a74, trying to find the best run and gun settings - im torn between slog3 vs hlg3, which one do you find yourself using more for vlogs/run and gun?!
I think SLOG3 is easier on run and gun filming now on a7iv! You can easily expose 0 to +1 on the in camera meter. The noise floor is much better and it’s flexible with the 10 bit. No need to overexpose to +1.7
Turn on gamma display assist and you’re good to go!
Would you recommend vlogging with these settings?
Maybe but it might take a while to get used to especially in the editing stage since. Try it out and see how you like it!
very helpful! My question may be off-topic but what memory card do you use for ZVE10?
any SD v30 card would work
do u think will work in indoor shoothead videos ?
as long as you have controlled lighting setup! Without proper lighting, it will have noise. I would recommend PP off if that's the case.
the bigger slog 3 disadvantage is that you are using slog 3 in a 8 bit camera, use slog 2
Slog2 is very similar and people have been using slog3 since the a7sii and older cams and that’s 8 bit with no issues. You just gotta know the limit of when to push the grade.
@@VictorLaforteza oh I see, thanks for letting me know!
and since you replied, can you tell me how slog 2 compares with no picture profiles and contrast, saturation and sharpness turned all the way down?
maybe you could send me a sample clip, I might be asking for too much here
but since I'm not very rich and it will be my first camera, I want to buy the right one.
and how different is the autofocus in the video when you have eye af enabled and disabled?
I'm looking to buy either the zv-e10 or a6100, I want the a6100 because of the viewfinder and the zv-e10 because of eye af and pp
Ok, I figured out the whole "set the camera in shutter priority mode"... but doesn't that mean that the aperture is now basically whatever the camera wants? Which means any depth of field I might be aiming for is basically out the window (and there's already not that much with the kit lens).
I do have another lens coming hopefully today (sigma 14mm lens yay)... I guess that will make a big difference? I'm finding that shooting in Slog3 atm works well when shooting scenes in natural light or really well lit environments, but when shooting my "talking head" style videos in my office, with a darker background, it is struggling to focus properly and "looks low res" and noisy even in 4k. I guess the kit lens is the problem?
You’ll need more light indoors as SLOG3 and the camera is exposure hungry.
Can you explain why I want to shoot with slog3?
I’m new to this, so a little info on that is appreciated.
Is there another setting option other than slog3 - and why should I use slog3 (is it the best setting)?
It’s all about additional dynamic range and maximizing the best footage for thr ZV-E10. A lot of people don’t recommend it because it is hard to work with but if you know how to use it properly and edit, it gives you a waaaay better footage than other picture profiles Hope that helps!
@@cilginflix I don't know about that, did you see the sample footage I shot? looks great imo.
@@VictorLaforteza Just look at details of sample footage that you shoot and you'll see colours break easily, especially if you need to colour correct something. E.g. Just look at 0:54. The shirt colour is completely broken up. I never recommend log footage in 8 bit. Even flat profiles aren't advisable if it is too flat. The only way to use S-log in Sony cameras is Mark10's method where you bump saturation and colours in-camera. Because that way the camera can do all the processing internally before the final compression.
Would you recommend this camera for a beginner content creator who wants to upgrade from a camera that only shoots 1080p 60 fps? Or should I wait a while to save up for a ZVE1
Both are great cameras. You’ll get better longevity with the zv-e1 though as it’s gonna future proof you. It’ll depend on your budget. Keep in mind full frame lenses are more expensive too for the zv-e1
Why is this channel only 5k subscribers 🤔 the content is very informative
Haha! Not sure as well but it’s steadily growing :) Glad you found the video helpful!!
@@VictorLaforteza I agree! Your videos are amazing👏🏼
Can you make a video on how you got super smooth video? Mine is always shaky with my zv-e10
Good idea! Essentially you can just tuck your arms to your side and hold the camera close to your chest and then move with your body not with your arms! Lens Optical Stabilization helps as well. And then add stabilization in your editing software. Hope that helps 🙌🏽
@@VictorLaforteza this was helpful! I’ll try it next time I film, thank you 😇
Is the LUT you mentioned in this video the Sunset or HLG3? Am I just confused? Would love to purchase!
Sunset Film! If you have any further questions, let me know!
Hey I'm having trouble finding the 1 click Lut you mentioned?
it's under sunset film lut pack :)
I have a question, ever since doing this setting, i have occasional red tints on my footage. Do u know of any solution to this ? Thanks
They’re artifacts! It’s because the footage is a bit sensitive so you’d have to put more light in without it clipping. Can be fixed with decent exposure or color noise reduction in post
Hey Victor, thanks for this! Question: i want to match the Sony A7IV and the ZV-E10. Would you recommend the fake S-cinetone or another method? I'm trying to figure out the color space to choose. Thanks!
Hey Ralph! I would recommend trying out the fake S-Cinetone to match. It's quite close and it's easier to completely match in post. Another method I would recommend is using a color chart. Davinci resolve has a colour matching feature with charts and it's almost a one click wonder. I'm not sure if premiere or fcp has it but I'd take a look at what's available.
@@VictorLaforteza Great! I'll try that out. Thanks for the tip!
Have you tried color matching ZV-E10 with the FX3/30/A7S III cameras?
yup! I have a tutorial on my channel!
@@VictorLaforteza what is the name of this video?
How you can adjust Exposure Comp while ISO set to 500 not Auto, my camera disable my Exposure Comp if i set the ISO
Sorry, I forgot to mention in the video to set the shooting mode to Shutter Priority! That way it'll open up exposure comp :)
Is the Sony free LUT applicable for Canon EOS model for editing?
I believe there’s a free one as well for canon
i dont understand the link to get your Lut. The link goes to a bunch of llut packs and dont specify ZV-E10
I am confused with your caption. So for night time, what do you recommend?
HLG3 for this camera
How do you set the exposure comp without ISO being on auto? My zve won't let me do that unless ISO is set to an auto range.
Sorry! I forgot to mention you have to put it on shutter priority mode (shooting mode) :)
@@VictorLaforteza thank you King. I've been looking for this comment on every channel and nobody talks about it.
Why i cant use exposure compensation when set to iso 500
It only can be turned on if i set iso to auto
set the shooting mode to shutter priority mode!
why I can't set exposure comp with ISO? I need to set ISO to auto if I would like to set Exposure Comp
Sorry I missed it in the video but you have to change the shooting mode the shutter priority!
@@VictorLaforteza thank you so much
I know this is an 1 year old vid, but it answer some questions I got in my mind. You mention don't use PP in Low Light - perhaps it's worse of making this same explanation for settings, filming, colorgrading, ..... in a new Video? Thx for the explanation !
Low Light I would use another PP like cine2 or cine4 - I can't remember if HLG is a thing for the ZV-E10 but that's a good one as well. I don't have this camera anymore so I wont be able to make a new video :(
@@VictorLaforteza but I think you own the A6700 like me
There’s a tutorial for low light and grading on my channel then 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@@VictorLaforteza thx - I found it couple days ago! exactly what I need.
I can only change exposure comp. when the ISO is set to auto. What needs to be done to set it like yours? My camera is ZV-e10.
I see. Shutter priority. Thanks
But now shutter priority wont let me set the aperture.
Yes shutter priority becomes auto
Was it shot by kit lens only ?
Yup!
why i cannot set up my Exposure Camp to +1.3. It shows thhat I need to turm my Iso to automode. Can you help me? Plz
Oh you have to put it on shutter priority mode :)
Can i use the luts on iphone vn
not on the iphone
Dumb question can I use this Picture Profile for photos and use the LUT for the same results for pictures on this same camera?
Yes if it's jpeg! It won't be the same result but it's close enough.
@@VictorLaforteza sure thank you!!
Hi Victor, when I move the ISO to 500 it doesn’t let me move the exposure compensation. How do I do it?
Sorry! I forgot to mention to put the camera on aperture priority mode! If not you’ll just have to keep an eye on the exposure compensation to keep it at +1.3-+1.7
@@VictorLaforteza thanks man!
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slog 2 looks better after coloring on 8bit
Have you considered selling the 1-Click LUT by itself at a lower price or maybe giving that one away for free for a limited time? Would love the 1-Click LUT but don't need the rest of the pack :/
Alright I love your content so much I said screw it and got the full pack! Excited to test this out! Thank you for this!
Thanks brother! 🙏🏽 hope you like it! I’m working on a free update this year as well so you pretty much get more over time. Come hangout in the discord group link is in the description.
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Anything below 600 iso is not good for slog3
depends on the camera. Each camera has different base iso for slog3.
As a Disney editor, please stop telling people to shoot log on 8 bit cameras. 10 bit is the minimum requirement for log footage. Just look at 0:54. The shirt is broken up into so many purple blocky pixels. Or 1:16 where the boat colours are pixelated. The only way to use S-log on Sony 8bit cameras is to have the camera do processing internally. Mark10's method th-cam.com/video/IK9Eg6qiArY/w-d-xo.html& is better because that way the camera applies saturation, contrast, before the final compression.
I won't stop because it's completely doable. What you're looking at is so miniscule that only "editors" that look into the flaws would see in a big screen. We're not shooting movies or tv shows with a Sony APSC camera. We're shooting home made videos and paid or unpaid online content. You're always at the mercy of a platform's compression too. I've used 8 bit slog footage long before 10 bit was introduced to the a7siii and no paying client of mine has said anything about tiny pixels breaking down. Yes, it's tough and a beginner could easily break it apart but in the right guideline and testing, it's doable for everyone.