The bigger the tv, it takes away the real immersion of being in a car. If you're in the cockpit of a car and you have a sim rig, TV should be 3 to 4 feet away from your face. That simulates looking out a real window. 8ft . feet back is arcade. You're not simulating anything. There's websites you can go to that shows the distances and measurements of your legs. Your arm. your body to simulate being in a real car. Ideal TV is 32 inch to 42 inch. No bigger. This has been proven so the bigger the TV not good
to be honest i don't care for the console after the ps5. The pro should be focused on more storage, processing and how efficient it is overall. this is a budget console. no purpose to hype up the games on there when the console has no general upscaling, unless they're willing to make it a whole new gen console. in the end it's just an overpriced ps5.
2t not good enough for u bra . Yes install depends on Internet sometimes hard ware may msd will be needed but will not know until it is show never delt something that has been released yet
thank god, glad you are speaking sense. VR in gt7 is really really really bad, i wasted money buying a psvr2 and it was a disappointing experience, a complete opposite to what people make it out to be online. GT7 had to compromise on the lack of GPU power & usb c bandwidth limitation which had a detriment impact on the graphical quality. Anything beyond the dash is just a blurry mess. psvr2 lenses itself has such a small sweet spot, any slight movement just kills the immersion. it’s the reason why i moved to the pc using pimax crystal. sure its expensive but there is zero video signal compression and you plug it straight to the GPU using a displayport cable which produces pinsharp visuals with a massive sweet spot, comparible to playing sitting in front of a 4K display. it’s a thing of beauty if you love sim racing. i love GT7 and once the PS5 pro or ps6 hardware can support 32:9 aspect ratio, i will just have to give it a miss.
@@RellyG100 yeah agreed. It’s immersive enough to have a better experience than playing on flat IMO. Just needs fine tuning and once you have enough run time it’s really not all that horrible.
yea pc initial cost is ofc hmuch higer but you can upgrad eover time and kinda do bits of parts end eventually you have a beast gaming pc that will be so much more powerful than ps5pro
@JelaniSuper That's your opinion, but people are still buying the PS5. I understand you want a new game every month, but they all been telling that lie for decades, so I never believe anything these companies say, I will get what I like when it gets released.
@@RobertJackson-sl1mk I wanted to say that, but I was trying to be nice. Gamers act like everyone is broke, and everyone doesn't deserve to have everything they see. I'm also buying one, because for one" I didn't get a series-x, just a PS5 and that took 2-years. I had saved for 2-years before they came out to pay cash for all three system, so I'm good.
I'll be here when you review GT7 VR on PS5 Pro, Kireth! I have no interest in getting a PS5 Pro unless there's a large benefit in VR gaming. Respect for helping the community out.
@@mrhellahammer8097 on X I heard in the future PSVR 2 will be able to take advantage of PSSR that comes with PS5 pro basically PlayStations version of DLSSR or FSR
Personally nothing the PS5 Pro impressed me. They showed side by side comparisons and kept talking about the big difference, but I couldn't see anything drastically noticeable. Pro is a waste of money IMO.
But, to answer you there is actually an option! You could use any simagic gear on PS5 with a Sigma Cortex Converter (ps4/ps5) just google Sigma Cortex Converter and read about it! Not the cheapest option but it's not a Fanatec at least!
I'd rather have 4k at 120 fps than ray traced. Basically, the ps5 pro is slightly increased res and more solid frame rates... Which are a fractional increase so not worth upgrading in my opinion.
Need VR improvements. Need online accountability, even worth monthly GT7 Pro subscription with deeply detailed stat tracking. Need unlimited automatic near real time replay saves. Local and online for all to spectate. Need UI enhancements, telemetry enhancements, all selections remembered, replay display preference. Need car log books of every collision, car wash, oil change, modification, tuning etc. Need 30+ cars in races.
Ui change? Gtfoh. You never play GT games before??? What track stat tracking you need??? Car log books? For what? Selling? The value is already there. Ever bump and accident doesn't make sense recording if the damage system on the game doesn't even allow your car to be destroyed?? No lose no gain.
@@vimtobill4156 clown boy child, HUDs and the UIs should be able to be created just like liveries and in simhub and shareable in showcase, just like tunes.
Nice one, your style reminds me of Ariel Helwani (who took MMA reporting main stream). Very clean, informative and professional. I bought my whole ps5/sim VR rig just for GT7, I love the community and breadth/depth of the GT7 experience. What PS5 Pro does for GT7 in VR2 is critical, fingers crossed they deliver
Had playstation since the PS1, i wont be getting the pro. To me this gen has been the most disappointing. Its games that make a console good and the PS4 catalogue blows the PS5 out the water. GTA5, GoT, Witcher 3, RDR2 and so on, wheres the PS5 answer to it? Far too many remakes and remasters and hardly any good new IP's. Now thats not strictly Sonys fault but wheres my incentive to buy a PS5 pro? I know i havent mentioned GT7 on this but its good enough on the PS5, ingame ray tracing is not a selling point lol
if they remove reprojection for PSVR2 GT7 & bring the graphics up to parity with the flat version, I'm getting one. Won't happen, but would be my wish to add triple screen support.
The stuff we want is more CPU bound, and the Pro isn’t touching that. Still getting one, since I got crazy trade in amounts at GameStop on my ps5 and an extra series s I had. Pro is 100% paid for already 🤷🏻♂️
@rover1374 people still believe whatever they say I personally think consoles should have been targeted to 1440p. We are not ready for full-on 4k 60fps on every single title, especially AAA titles
@MagicAyrtonforever oh yea if they take raytracing out of the picture for sure we can but they're not gonna do that they want all of it 4k 120 with raytracing and due to simple hardware limitacion it can't be done all at once
I will not be buying the PS5 Pro because my standard PS5 slim disk edition works perfectly fine and I totally agree with PSVR2 in GT7 it needs the visuals improving to the same high standard as Resident evil village / Call of the mountain or No mans sky.
I use my PS4 to play DVDs .Not much else . I have GT7 and about 500 cars . What would spark interest in me getting a PS5 would B Spec in GT7 and a console that I could play DVDs with in the future .
people getting all crazy about raytraced reflections on cars in a racing game with a fixed camera is so alien to me. i tried to enable raytraced car reflections for example in forza horizon and i wholeheartedly can say that i can't notice them when i am not paying attention to them. And i can't pay attention because i have to focus on the driving, so i am sorry that i can't spot a raytraced reflection for a second while passing a car or something, its just a gimmick. what would impress me more would be raytraced ambient occlusion or raytraced global illumination, this would indeed be a gamechanger in terms of how it affects the overall visuals.
They still have capped it to 20. When are we going to get 24 if it isn't online or 30 in that one GT Sport mission? Hell, 32 would suffice for more chaos and fun.
What I hate is when they release GT8 on ps6, that it's going to be for ps5 as well. Don't get me wrong, I know that's a lot of money to leave on the table but, I want a GT game only for THAT generation, not all of this cross crap. We need to see what these systems can do and GT7 isn't (technically) even a PS5 game.
@@SolaricSage116 Agreed, they need to leave previous generations behind at some point or... Someone needs to create a racer specifically for that generation of consoles.
It def could. Between the pro and TM’s new DD this pretty dope thing. Glad I don’t have to go through the hassle of upgrading my pc rig now with the confirmation of the pro
Man I actually will buy it for gt7 psvr2..because I am fed up of blurry..foggy and unclear image..and its not my headset..I actually bought a playseat logitech g and a fanatec dd pro for this game..jeez..£1.7k puf..out if its not enhancing the graphics of gt7 in vr..I will most probably send it back
I play gt7 in a 85 inches vrr 120fp and looks massive. Anyway i.prefere play it in VR2. WHAT ABOUT GT7 IN VR2.running from a ps5 pro? Are we gonna see a gt7 inside vr2 like what we see in tv???
I just want them to Bring Back the Tire Smoke b4 the 1.49 patch, I use to be able to do a full length power skids up the front straight of Bathurst with my 65 Mini-Cooper with killa smoke, now it just sounds & looks like the car is in pain.....................
Thé biggest différences that you Will see without a DF review is on psvr2 i Guess....on my projector it seems less detailing maybe because of the big screen so 8k or better 4k 120hz Ray tracing in game could be appreciated in my opinion if you play vr and this one really upgrade psvr2 in that way with better graphics it could be a game changer in all ways
I am using ps5 only for GT7 vr so if VR will be noticeable improve yes it’s will be wort to upgrade. Also I believe this is Sony chance to showcase its exclusive title in its VR glory 🙏
Car reflections are not present in ray tracing replays on regular ps5, at least not in the current gt7 version. Not sure if it is a software lock or current ps5 is not capable to draw these reflections even on replays but I can say for sure that they do not make gt7 gameplay better in any shape or form
Ray tracing is only good for pixel peepers like Digital Foundry. I can tell they are going to have an 8 hour video counting every reflection while stepping through each frame.
It's all about the hunger when comes about Sony! Money is all they see... 120fps for PSVR2 + info data would be a change; realistic mode(no gosting, hard damage, no assist in ranked races) with good penalty system in GT7 also...
Pemalties wich include desqualify from race when pilots doesn't respect the racing ettiquete... That's what is needed! Instead of solving all these they're releaseing a new product... 👎
Makes me think back to an early reveal of ACC with ray tracing promoting RTX ON that never came about and was only a tech demo. Currently the most affordable 8K TV is the Samsung 55" 700C which I believe is now only available from 65" on the current D series. Its much harder to see any difference with a small window of the extra detail 8K will bring, espically from a YT video of it being viewed not in 8K or on an 8K display. Does this mean we will also see a Sony 8K Mini LED TV at CES 2025?
I'm not sold on the ps5 pro until we know vr enhancements. Just incase I get one I ordered the disc drive now. I heard the disc drive could sell out and I could at least sell the disc drive for a profit.
I’m with you … I need someone to confirm what the difference in VR is as I only play in VR so they should come out and explain if gt7 will have a VR update otherwise I can’t commit to it
I bought the ps4 pro originally for psvr improvements (not sure if there were any in the end) but the fact psvr2 improvements are scarcely mentioned means it's a hard pass for me, especially at that price.
I loooovvvveeee GT7 in VR2 to the point I cant play gt7 without it, I have a few videos up online but dont really know what to expect with the pro am I thinking of getting it on launch....... maybe, maybe im tempted but like everyone is saying, is it worth the money??? That is the main question.
I’m confused… I still have my PS5 Box and it clearly says 8k on it!… on a PS5! I always assumed it was limited by the fact I didn’t have an 8k TV? So can someone explain how the PS5 Pro 8K is different to the 8K advertised on the PS5 Box? 🤷♂️
I wish they would make gran turismo more like forza where you could go into like free roam and like be more things to do than just race all the time like halfway in between midnight club
You're asking for things that a mid-gen console refresh just isn't designed to do. GT7 is an already finished game... you can't expect a mid-gen refresh to fix or vastly improve/change aspects of a game usually reserved for sequels when devs can apply larger gameplay changes. What a mid-gen refresh does accomplish is apply improvements on the edges... especially when it comes to games already out.
The Efx in replay is probably going to be realtime in-game. I would absolutely love raytracing real-time because I love playing rally and snow rally. It looks pretty bad ATM they've even made it worse over the last couple of updates. But no I would not pay for a new little difference that I expected to be there already.
GT7 is the only reason i even still have a ps5, i really wish they release it for pc, but i sure hte hell not gonna pay 700 for little bit raytracing can hardley tell the differance when your racing anyway, i leave the raytracing to my 4090pc
The PS5 Pro CPU is the same as the PS5 CPU, PS5 Pro is all about the graphics upgrades as a GPU upgrade will do far more for gaming performance than a CPU upgrade, but would be nice if even if its the same CPU they could at list try and get it like 200/300mhz faster at least.
Anyone who says GT7 is not a sim, doesn't know what they are talking about. All of these games are just that, a game, they are not real. They're all a "simulation" of the real thing. Every company or programmer have their own version, and some are liked more than others. Too much of people knocking others of what game they prefer to play.
The best Sim Racing Game? With no tripple Screend or Ultrawide support? Not enough Wheel Support? Come on Kireth, did you really need that money so much with such click bait titles?
@@HCPietthe new physics have improved this game a lot… it’s closer to alot of current sim then ever was before after the update.. explain to me what make a true sim, the physics… or are you referring to the racing experience.. because the new physics is very simmy if you ask me
The ps5 cant even handle 4k most of the time and not even a 4090 which is way stronger then this GPU is handling it Good so you really think the Pro version is gonna handle 8K lmfao yeah sure... Same marketing BS with the Ps4 Pro 4K
@@rover1374 yeah most people are so easy to get lol i have a highend PC so i know what im talking about thats why i dont play 4k cause upscaling programms always take alot of inputdelay. The best option for ps5 is 1440p cause its a native resolution on most games and mot even that is 100% native the best of the best would be 1080p but who plays that nowadays lol 8K graphics is a complete joke right now not gonna buy this console cause its not worth its only gonna be worth when they finalls RIP last Gen consoles which is gonna happen when Ps6 drops.
Long and short of it. It doesn't matter. Its just graphics, are you really going to notice. No. Are you racing or saying oooo look at my reflection in that car
Sony really messed up. They doubled the price of the discless ps5. For a tiny boost in resolution and frame rate. I don’t get it. You could almost buy 2 x PS5 discless. That’s 32GN RAM, 2td SSD, Double GPU compute units, double ALL the caches, 32 cores of Zen 2 etc etc. They had a chance here to make a huge mark on the world of console gaming. Instead took the greedy route. The PS5 Pro should have been 20% more max
Deffo looks better but it still has fake shiny lens flare on cars and the physics are still PD,s weird take on car grip and no looseness on back end which is not even close to real🤷♂️
imo, RT is useless, I focus more on the gameplay than looking at a reflection, but that's just me. I care more about consistent 60fps at 4k, hell, I'd play 120 fps at 1080.
I'm already subbed but big yes from me for bigger lobbies. I feel like for the ray tracing they should just work on it in gt7 and release it to the public with gt8... assuming gt8 won't have compatibility on ps4
GT7 on PS5 Pro will still be the same game with its issues. Will just look better. Don't think PS5 Pro will fix the penalty system or give us more public lobby multiplayer options.
I think it is more important that there be more variety in the game, for example in the competitive mode, that it looks more real, that it looks more real, I am not interested, I am interested in it being more real on the track, not that the trees look real and that It looks like a car simulator with penalties, it is better to ban dirty people, put more cars, more track, more race. You would say that it is not monotonous and long races of more than 1 hour, more wear and tear, more consumption in the race. and less graphic that gives a shit to the people who want to compete
The biggest hypocrites are PC community, this is literally what they bragged for for years to be able to upgrade constantly to get crispier looking games. Now that consoles are doing it its bad. Nobody forces you to buy one and also you cant get the same PC without doubling in the price.
Im on the fence for ps5 pro. I only play vr games. So if there is not allot to impress me, ill skip. I feel like i wasted money getting psvr2, compared to my quest3 with QGO, psvr2 is a fuzzy mess with horrible reprojection.
I don't need 8K that bad. I just got 120 HZ last year. I wish their priorities centered around a more lifelike AI, rather than reflections. Artificial intelligence is doing amazing things in the world, and I can't wrap my mind around why it has an advanced here in 20 years. I've been checked off course by sophie. It's better, but not great. The rooftop emojis are ridiculous.
What are we basing that on....just graphics? Because GT7 isnt really a TRUE sim. So it cant be the best of something that it isnt even. The gameplay itself cannot elevate it to such a level.... especially when some basic elements of racing arent in the game. I cant speak for GT franchise like i used to back in the day... because i can see how great GT could be if they REALLY wanted to be serious about elevating
So for most of us will be playing on a 42" TV so 8k would make little difference. And as others have stated why would we spend £700 for a pro for very little return. I will not be buying a PS5 pro like I did with the ps4 pro. Plus since I got the portal and play mostly on the sofa with the Mrs watching TV and me on my portal it won't change the way my game will look. It won't be long until they will be asking £700+ for the ps6 which would mean you are in the Realms of a good gaming PC.
I would prefer they listened to psvr2 owners about simple stuff like allowing us to see the time gaps in race. 🤬 like you get on screen non vr mode
You know what's more immersive than playing GT7 on an 80 inch tv?
Being in the F'king car in a PSVR 2.
By God VR is a game changer 😃, it's the tech people should be spending there money on
Niche product
@@antjones2281 the graphics are horrible in VR. it’s a real downgrade coming from 4K
displays.
Vr gt7 is the tits!!!❤
The bigger the tv, it takes away the real immersion of being in a car. If you're in the cockpit of a car and you have a sim rig, TV should be 3 to 4 feet away from your face. That simulates looking out a real window. 8ft . feet back is arcade. You're not simulating anything. There's websites you can go to that shows the distances and measurements of your legs. Your arm. your body to simulate being in a real car. Ideal TV is 32 inch to 42 inch. No bigger. This has been proven so the bigger the TV not good
to be honest i don't care for the console after the ps5. The pro should be focused on more storage, processing and how efficient it is overall. this is a budget console. no purpose to hype up the games on there when the console has no general upscaling, unless they're willing to make it a whole new gen console. in the end it's just an overpriced ps5.
2t not good enough for u bra . Yes install depends on Internet sometimes hard ware may msd will be needed but will not know until it is show never delt something that has been released yet
@@SVJ804 ? bro the ps5 pro in their showcase is a budget console. this is a waste for now but we'll see
Need improvements in VR.
Not spending $700.
it will cost 850 in norway i will buy it
thank god, glad you are speaking sense. VR in gt7 is really really really bad, i wasted money buying a psvr2 and it was a disappointing experience, a complete opposite to what people make it out to be online.
GT7 had to compromise on the lack of GPU power & usb c bandwidth limitation which had a detriment impact on the graphical quality. Anything beyond the dash is just a blurry mess. psvr2 lenses itself has such a small sweet spot, any slight movement just kills the immersion.
it’s the reason why i moved to the pc using pimax crystal. sure its expensive but there is zero video signal compression and you plug it straight to the GPU using a displayport cable which produces pinsharp visuals with a massive sweet spot, comparible to playing sitting in front of a 4K display.
it’s a thing of beauty if you love sim racing.
i love GT7 and once the PS5 pro or ps6 hardware can support 32:9 aspect ratio, i will just have to give it a miss.
@@t0x1cde6tit’s not really bad, it’s actually very immersive. Can it be tweaked? Yes an update is due. But calling it bad is a reach
@@RellyG100 yeah agreed. It’s immersive enough to have a better experience than playing on flat IMO.
Just needs fine tuning and once you have enough run time it’s really not all that horrible.
@@lxiong1077 Its the best experience I’ve ever had with a racing game my whole life tbh lol
My next upgrade will be, to PC!
yea pc initial cost is ofc hmuch higer but you can upgrad eover time and kinda do bits of parts end eventually you have a beast gaming pc that will be so much more powerful than ps5pro
There’s barely any games for ps5. wtf does anyone want to a pro for
"Bu..but muh Astrobot...🤣😆"
@JelaniSuper That's your opinion, but people are still buying the PS5. I understand you want a new game every month, but they all been telling that lie for decades, so I never believe anything these companies say, I will get what I like when it gets released.
Talking out ya arse mate. I got bout 30 vr games on ps5 let alone all the flat screen games. No games... behave yourself🙄
@@riansillett2771Exclusive games
@@RobertJackson-sl1mk I wanted to say that, but I was trying to be nice. Gamers act like everyone is broke, and everyone doesn't deserve to have everything they see. I'm also buying one, because for one" I didn't get a series-x, just a PS5 and that took 2-years. I had saved for 2-years before they came out to pay cash for all three system, so I'm good.
I'll be here when you review GT7 VR on PS5 Pro, Kireth! I have no interest in getting a PS5 Pro unless there's a large benefit in VR gaming. Respect for helping the community out.
PSVR 2 may benefit from the Pro, but they hardly mentioned this when scrolling on X for info
I would also like to know more about how it will effect psvr2 in in a positive way as well since thas the only way I play Gt7
@@mrhellahammer8097 on X I heard in the future PSVR 2 will be able to take advantage of PSSR that comes with PS5 pro basically PlayStations version of DLSSR or FSR
Personally nothing the PS5 Pro impressed me. They showed side by side comparisons and kept talking about the big difference, but I couldn't see anything drastically noticeable. Pro is a waste of money IMO.
Changing the topic. All I want is an affordable direct drive wheel for PS5 and GT7 that is NOT a Fanatec. lol. No ray tracing or nothing.
GT DD Pro
@@andsoitwas3046 You know what I'm gonna reply :)
@@andsoitwas3046can't find anywhere in Canada ,
@@asmrkudasai3468 Good thing you said NOT fanatec right 🤣 People can`t read past 10 words nowadays!
But, to answer you there is actually an option! You could use any simagic gear on PS5 with a Sigma Cortex Converter (ps4/ps5) just google Sigma Cortex Converter and read about it! Not the cheapest option but it's not a Fanatec at least!
I'd rather have 4k at 120 fps than ray traced. Basically, the ps5 pro is slightly increased res and more solid frame rates... Which are a fractional increase so not worth upgrading in my opinion.
but the unlocked framerate fidelity mode without raytracing should be able to give you a locked 120fps now right?
Still got my ps4 pro and good enough for gt7!
also have ps4pro and gt is incredible optimized game
Need VR improvements.
Need online accountability, even worth monthly GT7 Pro subscription with deeply detailed stat tracking.
Need unlimited automatic near real time replay saves. Local and online for all to spectate.
Need UI enhancements, telemetry enhancements, all selections remembered, replay display preference.
Need car log books of every collision, car wash, oil change, modification, tuning etc.
Need 30+ cars in races.
love the idea of log books - thats a great idea.
Ui change? Gtfoh. You never play GT games before???
What track stat tracking you need???
Car log books? For what? Selling? The value is already there. Ever bump and accident doesn't make sense recording if the damage system on the game doesn't even allow your car to be destroyed?? No lose no gain.
@@vimtobill4156 clown boy child, HUDs and the UIs should be able to be created just like liveries and in simhub and shareable in showcase, just like tunes.
PS5 pro has the same cpu as ps5.
Keith, I'd rather have ray-tracing during replays, especially TV cameras. Ray-tracing during the game is pointless.
this looks stunning, pre ordered my ps5 pro today
I am waiting to see what you say. It depends how you like it, mainly in the VR. If it shows on screen timing then a yes for sure.
Nice one, your style reminds me of Ariel Helwani (who took MMA reporting main stream).
Very clean, informative and professional.
I bought my whole ps5/sim VR rig just for GT7, I love the community and breadth/depth of the GT7 experience.
What PS5 Pro does for GT7 in VR2 is critical, fingers crossed they deliver
Thank you!
@@Kireth Qq how are you recording and exporting psvr recordings? Native on device > usb export > YT upload?
Capture card bro
@@Kireth cheers, will have ganders, I use a M1 Mac Pro Max
Had playstation since the PS1, i wont be getting the pro. To me this gen has been the most disappointing. Its games that make a console good and the PS4 catalogue blows the PS5 out the water. GTA5, GoT, Witcher 3, RDR2 and so on, wheres the PS5 answer to it? Far too many remakes and remasters and hardly any good new IP's. Now thats not strictly Sonys fault but wheres my incentive to buy a PS5 pro? I know i havent mentioned GT7 on this but its good enough on the PS5, ingame ray tracing is not a selling point lol
if they remove reprojection for PSVR2 GT7 & bring the graphics up to parity with the flat version, I'm getting one.
Won't happen, but would be my wish to add triple screen support.
The stuff we want is more CPU bound, and the Pro isn’t touching that. Still getting one, since I got crazy trade in amounts at GameStop on my ps5 and an extra series s I had. Pro is 100% paid for already 🤷🏻♂️
They need to upgrade the Psvr2..need to get rid of the reproduction.. agree with you scrap rays and make gt7 vr more amazing than it already is.
8k? I seriously doubt that is going to be the case it is hard enough to run 4k. Imagine 4 times the resolution
Exactly. Can’t even run 1080p upscaled to 4k at 60fps on triple A titles… 8K…
@rover1374 people still believe whatever they say
I personally think consoles should have been targeted to 1440p. We are not ready for full-on 4k 60fps on every single title, especially AAA titles
@@LYG4F yeah I agree. 1440p at stable 60 fps would have been better. PS4 pro been 4k for 10 years….
@@LYG4FWe are if they scrapped Raytracing which is a system hog, they need to start putting some real effort into making games look good.
@MagicAyrtonforever oh yea if they take raytracing out of the picture for sure we can but they're not gonna do that they want all of it 4k 120 with raytracing and due to simple hardware limitacion it can't be done all at once
I will not be buying the PS5 Pro because my standard PS5 slim disk edition works perfectly fine and I totally agree with PSVR2 in GT7 it needs the visuals improving to the same high standard as Resident evil village / Call of the mountain or No mans sky.
I use my PS4 to play DVDs .Not much else . I have GT7 and about 500 cars . What would spark interest in me getting a PS5 would B Spec in GT7 and a console that I could play DVDs with in the future .
people getting all crazy about raytraced reflections on cars in a racing game with a fixed camera is so alien to me.
i tried to enable raytraced car reflections for example in forza horizon and i wholeheartedly can say that i can't notice them when i am not paying attention to them. And i can't pay attention because i have to focus on the driving, so i am sorry that i can't spot a raytraced reflection for a second while passing a car or something, its just a gimmick.
what would impress me more would be raytraced ambient occlusion or raytraced global illumination, this would indeed be a gamechanger in terms of how it affects the overall visuals.
I'm very, very interested in seeing what this is going to do for the VR headset
I agree on the more cars on track.
They still have capped it to 20. When are we going to get 24 if it isn't online or 30 in that one GT Sport mission? Hell, 32 would suffice for more chaos and fun.
This bodes really well for the PS6 and GT8...
What I hate is when they release GT8 on ps6, that it's going to be for ps5 as well. Don't get me wrong, I know that's a lot of money to leave on the table but, I want a GT game only for THAT generation, not all of this cross crap. We need to see what these systems can do and GT7 isn't (technically) even a PS5 game.
@@iPromoteThatThen I feel like GT9 will be like GT7 with a crossplatform PS6, PS6 Pro and PS7... if the consoles are those by then.
@@SolaricSage116 Agreed, they need to leave previous generations behind at some point or... Someone needs to create a racer specifically for that generation of consoles.
i'm most conserned about zbuffer and resolution in pvsr2 than ray tracing
It def could. Between the pro and TM’s new DD this pretty dope thing. Glad I don’t have to go through the hassle of upgrading my pc rig now with the confirmation of the pro
Man I actually will buy it for gt7 psvr2..because I am fed up of blurry..foggy and unclear image..and its not my headset..I actually bought a playseat logitech g and a fanatec dd pro for this game..jeez..£1.7k puf..out if its not enhancing the graphics of gt7 in vr..I will most probably send it back
I'm going to take 'the hit' here
And buy this brand spanking new console for the channel 😉
touché
I play gt7 in a 85 inches vrr 120fp and looks massive.
Anyway i.prefere play it in VR2.
WHAT ABOUT GT7 IN VR2.running from a ps5 pro?
Are we gonna see a gt7 inside vr2 like what we see in tv???
I just want them to Bring Back the Tire Smoke b4 the 1.49 patch,
I use to be able to do a full length power skids up the front straight of Bathurst with my 65 Mini-Cooper with killa smoke, now it just sounds & looks like the car is in pain.....................
Thé biggest différences that you Will see without a DF review is on psvr2 i Guess....on my projector it seems less detailing maybe because of the big screen so 8k or better 4k 120hz Ray tracing in game could be appreciated in my opinion if you play vr and this one really upgrade psvr2 in that way with better graphics it could be a game changer in all ways
I am using ps5 only for GT7 vr so if VR will be noticeable improve yes it’s will be wort to upgrade. Also I believe this is Sony chance to showcase its exclusive title in its VR glory 🙏
Tomorrows video: why GT7 on ps5 pro is the biggest failure yet
Do you have access to my draft videos?
Car reflections are not present in ray tracing replays on regular ps5, at least not in the current gt7 version. Not sure if it is a software lock or current ps5 is not capable to draw these reflections even on replays but I can say for sure that they do not make gt7 gameplay better in any shape or form
Ray tracing is only good for pixel peepers like Digital Foundry. I can tell they are going to have an 8 hour video counting every reflection while stepping through each frame.
More cars on track, fix psvr hud, up to date gr cars.
yes!!
It's all about the hunger when comes about Sony! Money is all they see...
120fps for PSVR2 + info data would be a change; realistic mode(no gosting, hard damage, no assist in ranked races) with good penalty system in GT7 also...
Pemalties wich include desqualify from race when pilots doesn't respect the racing ettiquete...
That's what is needed!
Instead of solving all these they're releaseing a new product... 👎
Makes me think back to an early reveal of ACC with ray tracing promoting RTX ON that never came about and was only a tech demo.
Currently the most affordable 8K TV is the Samsung 55" 700C which I believe is now only available from 65" on the current D series.
Its much harder to see any difference with a small window of the extra detail 8K will bring, espically from a YT video of it being viewed not in 8K or on an 8K display.
Does this mean we will also see a Sony 8K Mini LED TV at CES 2025?
Should support ultrawide 100hz
I'm not sold on the ps5 pro until we know vr enhancements. Just incase I get one I ordered the disc drive now. I heard the disc drive could sell out and I could at least sell the disc drive for a profit.
Where is the new update . No August or September. No one is talking about it ?
I’m with you … I need someone to confirm what the difference in VR is as I only play in VR so they should come out and explain if gt7 will have a VR update otherwise I can’t commit to it
I bought the ps4 pro originally for psvr improvements (not sure if there were any in the end) but the fact psvr2 improvements are scarcely mentioned means it's a hard pass for me, especially at that price.
I loooovvvveeee GT7 in VR2 to the point I cant play gt7 without it, I have a few videos up online but dont really know what to expect with the pro am I thinking of getting it on launch....... maybe, maybe im tempted but like everyone is saying, is it worth the money??? That is the main question.
please add leader board. what is their problem. i hate the delay by them if they ever do it. i live in VR on GT7 nothing like it! :)
I need to know PSVR2 improvements!
I wonder if one day it will be possible to play on a ultrawide resolution and/or triples (as they do VR I don't see why it's still not possible)
I’m confused…
I still have my PS5 Box and it clearly says 8k on it!… on a PS5!
I always assumed it was limited by the fact I didn’t have an 8k TV?
So can someone explain how the PS5 Pro 8K is different to the 8K advertised on the PS5 Box? 🤷♂️
I wish they would make gran turismo more like forza where you could go into like free roam and like be more things to do than just race all the time like halfway in between midnight club
I would just hope it will work better with tmobile 5G My ps4 wont even let me race other people
You're asking for things that a mid-gen console refresh just isn't designed to do.
GT7 is an already finished game... you can't expect a mid-gen refresh to fix or vastly improve/change aspects of a game usually reserved for sequels when devs can apply larger gameplay changes.
What a mid-gen refresh does accomplish is apply improvements on the edges... especially when it comes to games already out.
The Efx in replay is probably going to be realtime in-game.
I would absolutely love raytracing real-time because I love playing rally and snow rally.
It looks pretty bad ATM they've even made it worse over the last couple of updates. But no I would not pay for a new little difference that I expected to be there already.
Hey m8y are you getting the VOTAR ADD ON WHEEL... logitech pro
GT7 is the only reason i even still have a ps5, i really wish they release it for pc, but i sure hte hell not gonna pay 700 for little bit raytracing can hardley tell the differance when your racing anyway, i leave the raytracing to my 4090pc
2:25 subscribe and hit like are you serious
The PS5 Pro CPU is the same as the PS5 CPU, PS5 Pro is all about the graphics upgrades as a GPU upgrade will do far more for gaming performance than a CPU upgrade, but would be nice if even if its the same CPU they could at list try and get it like 200/300mhz faster at least.
Anyone who says GT7 is not a sim, doesn't know what they are talking about. All of these games are just that, a game, they are not real. They're all a "simulation" of the real thing. Every company or programmer have their own version, and some are liked more than others. Too much of people knocking others of what game they prefer to play.
Your point is perfect. So well said.
i get your point
but no
it is not "The real driving simulator"
never was and probably never will be
You're a simcade player, that's ok. But gt7 its not a sim
@sandroinocencio1623 like I said before, they are all Sims. I don't need your correction and I will not repeat myself again
The best Sim Racing Game? With no tripple Screend or Ultrawide support? Not enough Wheel Support?
Come on Kireth, did you really need that money so much with such click bait titles?
The old GTs had le Screend or Ultrawide support????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@RDR12344 GT was never a Sim Racer so dont know. I would bet no.
@HCPiet it is a Sim just like iracing. Gran Turismo is the real driving simulator after all more like real Tire simulator lol
@@RDR12344Yes. Older versions of gran turismo had support for multiple screens.
@@HCPietthe new physics have improved this game a lot… it’s closer to alot of current sim then ever was before after the update.. explain to me what make a true sim, the physics… or are you referring to the racing experience.. because the new physics is very simmy if you ask me
I wanted ray tracing so bad I bought the real Corvette C7 and enjoyed it more than in GT7
is there any info whether it will
1) support triple screen or one 32:9 7680x2160 display
2) native support for PC only wheel base (ie Moza)
1 no
2 no
To both of those questions, neither of them are yeses.
The ps5 cant even handle 4k most of the time and not even a 4090 which is way stronger then this GPU is handling it Good so you really think the Pro version is gonna handle 8K lmfao yeah sure... Same marketing BS with the Ps4 Pro 4K
Huh? I have a 4090 and 4k is nothing for me.
Agree. PS5 can barely upscale 1080p to 4k at 60fps for Triple A games.
@@rover1374 yeah most people are so easy to get lol i have a highend PC so i know what im talking about thats why i dont play 4k cause upscaling programms always take alot of inputdelay. The best option for ps5 is 1440p cause its a native resolution on most games and mot even that is 100% native the best of the best would be 1080p but who plays that nowadays lol 8K graphics is a complete joke right now not gonna buy this console cause its not worth its only gonna be worth when they finalls RIP last Gen consoles which is gonna happen when Ps6 drops.
@@Christaz9 yeah I’m focusing on PC (iRacing and other games) and will keep the PS5 for PS exclusives I really want.
@@rover1374 same im quite happy with the standart ps5 i dont need more if i want higher quality then i have my Pc ready to go lol
Kireth do you know if Gran Turismo 7 will eventually come to PC?🤔
Long and short of it. It doesn't matter. Its just graphics, are you really going to notice. No. Are you racing or saying oooo look at my reflection in that car
Sony really messed up. They doubled the price of the discless ps5. For a tiny boost in resolution and frame rate. I don’t get it. You could almost buy 2 x PS5 discless. That’s 32GN RAM, 2td SSD, Double GPU compute units, double ALL the caches, 32 cores of Zen 2 etc etc. They had a chance here to make a huge mark on the world of console gaming. Instead took the greedy route. The PS5 Pro should have been 20% more max
Deffo looks better but it still has fake shiny lens flare on cars and the physics are still PD,s weird take on car grip and no looseness on back end which is not even close to real🤷♂️
imo, RT is useless, I focus more on the gameplay than looking at a reflection, but that's just me. I care more about consistent 60fps at 4k, hell, I'd play 120 fps at 1080.
All I want is them to take the already existing Custom Race interface and swap out the god awful Catch-Up on AI for GT Sophy
When you said best Sim racing, did you mean looking?? Cause they still need to improve on physics, damage with ranking with no ghosting.
I'm already subbed but big yes from me for bigger lobbies. I feel like for the ray tracing they should just work on it in gt7 and release it to the public with gt8... assuming gt8 won't have compatibility on ps4
GT7 on PS5 Pro will still be the same game with its issues. Will just look better.
Don't think PS5 Pro will fix the penalty system or give us more public lobby multiplayer options.
I have been waiting for the PS5 pro. I still plan on getting it with its hefty price tag. As I am still on PS4
It would be nice to do away with the pinball effect!
I think it is more important that there be more variety in the game, for example in the competitive mode, that it looks more real, that it looks more real, I am not interested, I am interested in it being more real on the track, not that the trees look real and that It looks like a car simulator with penalties, it is better to ban dirty people, put more cars, more track, more race. You would say that it is not monotonous and long races of more than 1 hour, more wear and tear, more consumption in the race. and less graphic that gives a shit to the people who want to compete
Maybe Kaz should fix the lobby situation that is still rubbish and cant touch GT Sport
The real question is will it run tdu properly
Gonna need a PS12 for that
The biggest hypocrites are PC community, this is literally what they bragged for for years to be able to upgrade constantly to get crispier looking games. Now that consoles are doing it its bad. Nobody forces you to buy one and also you cant get the same PC without doubling in the price.
Ok now pay pls for graphics settings, only 10 bucks!!
Where are the psvr2 improvements!!??
Im on the fence for ps5 pro. I only play vr games. So if there is not allot to impress me, ill skip. I feel like i wasted money getting psvr2, compared to my quest3 with QGO, psvr2 is a fuzzy mess with horrible reprojection.
Because cpu is the same they can't increase the drivers.
Things like this needs more cpu power.
That about 120fps and no reprojection in Psvr2? 🤔
Waiting for your review of GT7 on PSVR2/PS5PRO
More cars on track 👍🏼
I want psvr upgrade gt7 no reprojection
yes, in Finland the pro costs 849 €
Converting that to here is $915. Here in the states is $700 (649€). I feel sorry for you folks in Finland that it costs $215 (200€) more there.
I’m fairly sure that replays on PS5 run at 30fps with ray tracing on, so it’ll be 60fps with PS5 Pro. Not worth spending £800+ on that’s for sure.
Does any of it improve gameplay. Its not wll about graphics. Just want fun games.
plz add ps5 support for super ultrawide monitor 32:9
GT7 on PS5 Pro will be the graphics king.
8K resolution 458 GT3, Vantage GT3, Corvette C7.R, and McLaren 650 GT3 😂
Get him to just fix the ridiculous penalty system before adding anything else 🙏
I don't need 8K that bad. I just got 120 HZ last year. I wish their priorities centered around a more lifelike AI, rather than reflections.
Artificial intelligence is doing amazing things in the world, and I can't wrap my mind around why it has an advanced here in 20 years. I've been checked off course by sophie. It's better, but not great. The rooftop emojis are ridiculous.
What are we basing that on....just graphics? Because GT7 isnt really a TRUE sim. So it cant be the best of something that it isnt even. The gameplay itself cannot elevate it to such a level.... especially when some basic elements of racing arent in the game. I cant speak for GT franchise like i used to back in the day... because i can see how great GT could be if they REALLY wanted to be serious about elevating
i dont care about ray tracing or 8k i just want to race 100 cars on the nurburgring in the rain
kinda stretching the performance of the ps5 pro
So for most of us will be playing on a 42" TV so 8k would make little difference. And as others have stated why would we spend £700 for a pro for very little return.
I will not be buying a PS5 pro like I did with the ps4 pro.
Plus since I got the portal and play mostly on the sofa with the Mrs watching TV and me on my portal it won't change the way my game will look.
It won't be long until they will be asking £700+ for the ps6 which would mean you are in the Realms of a good gaming PC.
that ray tracing makes everything to saturated and to shadowy..whole picture looks to dark
will get ps5 pro for betyer performance in game such as grand turismo 7