9mm vs .40 Cal vs .45 ACP - Cast Iron Skillets
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Should have lined the skillet with my wife's biscuits. Ain't nothing going thru them.
Lmbo 🤣
Burn!
Wow 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Damn...
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This is extremely important information for anyone hunting iron skillets, or if you are threatened by rogue skillets in your area.
Yup
Also a good way to punish stubborn and bad skillets.
mothman1967 😁
Placement is much more important than caliber when defending against skillets.
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I think you should’ve used a separate pan for each shot. Each shot compromises the integrity of the pan weakening it, like a bullet resistant vest.
Good point, but then he would have to spend 3x as much.
sure are you buying the skillets ?
agree
Everyone knows TH-camrs are pulling in the big bucks. Buy 3 skillets.
The skillets can cost more than some of the guns he's using.
Cast iron is extremely heavy, but it's also extremely brittle. I used to install tile, and occasionally during remodels we would have to remove old cast iron tubs for replacement, and we found it was easier to shatter them with a sledge hammer than to lug them down 1 or 2 flights of stairs.
Now you know you can just shoot them up into pieces or at least create holes to drag them by
Been there, done that. Waaaaayy easier, Brother!
It's a pain in the dick to stress relieve a huge bathtub, a pan not so much.
I tried sledge hammers with my cast iron tub and was afraid I would break the framing, so I switched to my sawmill and cut up the old tub.
Be Thankful You weren't the Plumber that had to lug them UP the stairs.
The first problem I noticed was, you didn't "season" the skillet. 🤠
😁😁😁👍👍 thanks for watching Ted!
Lol
@@WHOTEEWHO I think you need to redo this test with a real Skillet a LODGE SKILLET!!!
Did that already...5 other videos with EXPENSIVE LODGE SKILLETS
Omg 😂 that’s what I thought too
It seems to me that the .40 hole was only slightly larger because the bullet hit a bit farther from the edge than the .45 did, so the cavity had room to widen to it's fullest, but since the edge is stronger, the .45's hole didn't have the space to get a full radius of destruction.
You're exactly correct. Corners are always stronger
The .40 is a great round, but then again so is the .357 mag revolver round which nobody talks about these days. I prefer the .45 because I am very comfortable with it. Shoot what you are comfortable with. If it is a .22 LR then so be it. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with a .22 LR, and some of those guns are super-accurate. Peace, Love!!
I just want to say that the second greatest killing implement in the history of warfare is 230 grain, .45 ball ammo!🇺🇸
Also because the 40 is flattened already so expands more on impact.
Also, the 40 was a flat nose
Did anyone else see how much more the pan swong when hit with the .45? That thing had a lot of kinetic energy!
The 45 definitely smacked it a lot harder than the others.
Chunking Missiles lol I’d love to see 10mm!
Because it probably barely went through so most of the energy was dumped right into the pan. With good hollow point bullets, all 3 rounds will dump all energy into a human, and they all do comparable damage. Around 350-590 foot pounds for all 3 rounds. Max of 500 for 9mm and 590 for the other two. Average 430 for 9mm and 500 for the other two. Not a significant difference. They're a little more powerful but nothing significant and they are all just relatively "weak" handgun rounds, and all 3 have the capacity to easily kill a man.
Swinging (and movement in the direction of the shot in general) is the sign of momentum transfer (3rd law of Newton), not kinetic energy.
Energy transfer destroys, momentum transfer moves. 40 have a bit more energy than 45 if loaded to the same % of SAAMI maximums and shot from the barrels of the same length. Simply because 40 has much, MUCH higher pressure while just a bit lower area of the cross-section of the bore.
There is no magic,just basic physics. Energy = area of the cross-section of the bore multiplied by the integral of the pressure over the path of the bullet (path in the barrel being from the rearmost part of the widest part of the bullet - so not counting boat tail if present - to the muzzle if you are interested in muzzle energy).
Yeah.45 extremely energy
I think the skillet won here, even after you wasted all your ammo on it , it could still crack you over the head and kill you 😁
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Only at very close range. That’s the disadvantage. 😒
YES YES! And less wind drag having 3 vents now
Put a few more holes in it and you have the world's heaviest cheese grater
Yeah right, you can also still fry an egg in the lower right portion of the skillet. Lol
Moral of the story .... "you just can't find a good bullet proof skillet these days
I think your right here, lol
No Ozark trail that’s for sure
Don't copy Clint in 'A Fist Full of Dollars', his vest survived, being the door of a wood store.
@Jeffrey Bone Very true, good quote, "sorry, make that 4 coffins". Definitely don't make good westerns like his any more.
@Jeffrey BoneMy pleasure, I really enjoyed his man with no name trilogy, based on Yojimbo from Japan. Now back in the day, those were great movies, Japanese or American.
That's what you get when you bring a skillet to a gunfight.
Did you see the handle?
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No matter what happens, the 45 acp is my choice
Glock 21 gen 4, CCW for 2 years. No regrets
5 Wars ; it is a proven performer...Spanish American War...WW 1 and WW2 ...Korea & Viet Nam...
Would never want to be on the receiving in of a .45 ACP.
DESIGNED TO REPLACE U.S.CALVARY COLT REVOLER 45 LONG COLT AND JOHN BROWNING DID IT.
OLD WINCHESTER 240 SILVER TIP HOLLOW POINTS .45 ACP MAKE IT ABOUT PERFECT MATCH TO THE FAMOUS .45 LONG COLT.
yup!
.45 is my choice for a side arm. I feel more confident with it and it has been very reliable.
The movement of the skillet when the .45acp struck it was all you need to comprehend.🤣
I’m torn here. I love my guns, but I also love my iron skillets.
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There can only be one 😈
I like to grab $1 skillets at yard sales. Fun times putting big ass holes in them.
You’re torn? You should see his skillet ...
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WHO_TEE_WHO why does evey 40cal holder use 180 grain.I prefer the 165 grain just think it's a better grain
Good question. Just what i happened to have
Well after seeing that....I know my very much loved cal. the 41. Mag. would most definitely punch through a cast iron skillet....Whooo Hoooo.
I am sure it would! Thanks for watching!
WHO_TEE_WH.
Great video I enjoyed this. People don't realize how hard it is to hit a paper plate at 20 yards with a small pistol, good shooting.
we shoot .45 cal. black powder muzzleloading pistols and revolvers at 25 and 50 yards. 25 yds ain't that hard. 50 yds is a different story.
Who_Tee_Who flicks are always relaxing and entertaining. Often, they are also educational. I am amazed you never run out of things to shoot.
Never use a cast iron skillet for body armor!
Nope!
Marty Mcfly would beg to differ
Yep that’s the real moral of this story. Not surprising that is the nature of cast iron.
I know now!
Big Faaaaact's 😎.
Considering how brittle cast iron is I am surprised that the skillet was not cracked by the rounds as well as holed.
Word!! Same here...
Hell an air rifle could shoot a hole through a cast iron skeelet!!
...or shattered.
Every gun video I watch most people seem very knowledgeable and make lucid arguments on weapons and how to use them responsibly.
Obviously you didn’t season your skillet before using it.
I wish my Grandpa would just get TH-cam.
He used to do tests like this in his garage back in the day.
He would love this stuff.
I think the .45 hit closer to the edge which is why the hole it left was a bit smaller and lopsided. My bet would be if you hit them both well away from the edge the .45 would leave a bigger hole.
Yess sir was thinking same thing
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Exactly
I agree
Agreed
I mostly expected the results you experienced. The iron in the average skillet is fairly brittle. My cousin worked for a cookware manufacturing concern; he told me that the iron is subjected to some sort of treatment once the skillet is formed to harden it. The spalling around each hole on the backside of the skillet and the lack of a concave quality to the exit suggests the metal is far less elastic than typical plate iron.
It's stress relieved, not hardened.
Ya, no deformation, just pure shear force hole punch
I guess theres differences in cast iron as we shot one about month ago with Ruger 22cal and penetrating was really close.Fastest rounds was sold out so we couldnt get fastest 22cal rounds.
Amazing! There is a big difference between cast iron and steel but I’m surprised at the results. Thanks 🙏🏻
My mom would shoot me with those guns if I even thought about shooting her cast iron skillet 😂😂😂
As she should
I finally got one right! I thought all would penetrate through the pans but I was using your rifle video's penetrating 3 skillets as a reference point. Very interesting. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Vic!
45 was closer to the edge. It would be interesting to see a closer shot with the 45 in the middle of the target. I think it would be bigger than the 40.
40 and 45 are actually pretty close. Depends what brand of ammo. People just don’t like the 40cal , mostly because of these TH-camrs
Same 40 I Carry every day. Just something about it I've always loved s&w
I feel like where the 45 hit on the edge that reduced the size of the hole. Look how round the 45 is compared to the 40
I think you meant how round the 40 hole was compared to the 45. The 45 hit closer to the crease so would have made a bigger hole. I fully agree.
I think that all three rounds should have been fired at the center of the skillet... okay you would need 3 different skillets. But yeah had the .45 been on center it would have been larger.
The 40 made a bigger hole because of the flat bullet
@@TomahawkChopa the 40 was only slightly bigger because the 45 hit the edge of the skillet...
.40 has more energy than .45.
I'm no rocket scientist but I would have used 3 different skillets. 🐢🐢🐢
Thanks Anthony. Good point
He said they are expensive. At Walmart they are almost 5 dollars each. LMAO This nut is confused.
LOL. I think they are $8. $24 is a whole lotta money for me 🖒🖒thanks for watching!
Well, you will just have to decide what is more important, bullets or cooking implements?
It’s a open field . Calm your tits
Good stuff really like your clay block testing .
Hey buddy I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for taking the time to put this together and for posting. Mike, San Antonio Texas.
Thanks for watching!
Bottom line: Any of those three calibers will do....pick your preference and practice.
@Thomas Beaty What about 32 cal?
Yep, i agree! Practice is more important than engaging in my-caliber-is -better-than-yours debates
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Thanks for the comparison. It made me proud to know my 40 cal packs a nice wallop.
Thanks for watching Big Ron!
Heck man I just subscribed and rang the bell too. Stay safe
Hey thanks appreciate that! New video every day, quite a bit of awesome stuff coming out in the next couple weeks
Big Ron I carry a Springfield XD Mod. 2 subcompact 40. It's a little snappy for my taste, but I love it.
Springfield XD is a good choice
Fun vid thank you for doing this for us.
It looks like the bullets are flattening out then punching through the pan. Quite awesome.
The chef in me cried a little 😂
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Though I'm sure the outcome would be the same, doesn't the skillet lose more and more structural integrity after each hole versus a new skillet?
J D WTW IS CHEAP AND A NUT JOB TO BOOT !!!
Absolutely true
Totally agree, skillet was compromised first round!
Thank you
Well done for getting 3 out of 4 from 20 yards. Many tests I see are from much closer. I wonder what the results would look like with non jacketed rounds.
The reason the .40 made the same size hole as the .45 is due to the round you used. The .40 was a flat tip vs the typical round .45. As seen in 55 seconds into the video.
Standard 40 fmj is flat nose
Holy crap. I would have guessed 3 bounces just like you. I'm surprised at the results. Now you have me wondering what would happen with a .22 and a .380.
Surprised me
Put a smile on that happy face skillet.. Thanks for that
😂 thanks for watching Bobby!
This was a great and informative video.
Nice video....interesting results. Thanks!
The pan is a paid actor
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In the event of a skillet apocalypse, I'm with you!
😂😂😂 thanks Ed!
There's got to be one of the best and funniest videos I have seen it sometime thank you thank you thank you
Thanks for watching Michael
It took a bit for the skillet to stop swinging after the 45. Wonder if it's just where it hit.
Excellent demonstration, thanks for taking the time to put this video together! I've yet to shoot a .40, but from everything, I continue to see I'm Very Impressed!
Thanks for watching!
GREAT Shootin WHO_TEE, Those skillets are heavy but pretty brittle. You can kinda see when you hold them up and show the holes. Great stuff as always my fellow American. Hey Wensday(4th) is my birthday. Maybe if you have some old appliances laying around you can see what those 3 cals will go through.
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Yes I think that would be a gay idea shoot up some stuff.
Pretty cool fun to watch
Nice shooting
I have the 40 S&W and will stay with it.
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40 H&K here. Wouldn't swap it for any
Same here man the 40 SW SD all the way
Glock 22 .40 S&W👍
Love the Smith & wesson 40 also the Colt 1911 45
Great video, I've seen similar videos kill some cast iron skillets. They made me wonder about the front doors of a wood stove. I have always wondered if a door would was body armor like Clint Eastwood, Michael J. Fox used.
The rounds they used in that era may have been lower velocity. The cast iron may have been thicker also. We'll just have to try it. Right?
Great show
It’s always interesting to see the usual calibers compared! Thanks for sacrificing a skillet. Next time get two skillets and.I have some additional calibers for you. I would like to see the 357Sig and the .357 Magnum added to the test. I’m fortunate to have an HK P2000SK which can shoot 9mm, .40SW, and the 357Sig round. My subjective feel is that the 40 and 357Sig are quite similar in the hand with such a small ‘subcompact.’
0:48 Hank Hill talking about a propane grills.
I get that comment a lot! Thanks for watching :-)
Probably would have been a good idea to turn the skillet around when shooting,the curved edges provide a perfect surface for stray materials to ricochet back in the direction of the shooter. This is why most hard targets for plinking are designed flat so as to expel the excess material parallel to the target rather than in the direction of the shooter.just food for thought :)
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If I can't get to my Ruger, I'll reach for my cast iron skillet, both hit just as hard LOL . Great video Who !!!
Great Video...That's Why I Cook on the " New oiless Stick Free Copper Pans with the Lifetime Warranty"
I was wrong again as I need not go to Vegas and do any betting...Cool testing....Good stuff...
This is about to be a really fun video
I agree
I shot a copper skillet with a 380 acp 95 grain fmj, a 9mm 115 grain fmj, a 45 long Colt 250 grain hp, a .223 remmington 55 grain fmj, and a 22 lr 40 grain. All of them punched through except for the 22 lr. The 45 long Colt left a huge buldge around the hole it made. The 9mm left a bigger buldge than the 380 acp, and the .223 left a buldge similar to the 9 mm.
I thought you were using a real cast iron skillet. That's a Chinese copy of a skillet. The real ones are almost 1/2" thick. A .22 would punch a hole in that one you used.
Probably right there :-) Thanks Daniel
no doubt , definitely a factor to consider, my grandmothers old cast iron skillets could stop a tomahawk missile :P
Bahahaha... no skillet is 1/2 inch thick. None
You are right because the skillet my dad uses I would be amazed even if a .357 could bust it lol
Agreed.👍
That's the thinnest cast iron skillet I've ever seen.
My US made Lodge skillets are thicker than this Chinese manufactured Ozark Trail junk.
I was saying that exact same thing.
For some reason, IDK why, this is my favorite of the 9v40v45 comparisons so far.
Thanks for watching David
You are very impressed with your shooting.
I would be curious to see what a 125 grain .357 Magnum would do to Cast Iron.
Something to look at about this test is the movement of the pan when hit the faster 9, and 40, move the pan,a little but, Mr 45, blow's it dam near threw the back stop,👍👍👍 pretty cool stuff
Thanks for watching!!! 45 put a whoopin on it!
kind of wild how the second and third shots both hit the rim nearly perfectly.
I'm confused as you said they were similar bullets, and yes they all had fmj bullets. However the .40 had a flat point fmj the others didn't. This would make a different wound chanel (even in cast iron) compared to a round nose fmj don't you think?
Bro, Ive punched a hole through a cast iron skillet with a CCI Mini Mag.
Mr. Pan Man,, bring me a dream ,, make it cutest 45 I've ever seen!! 😂
You better just knock it off with that hilarious comment 🤣🤣🤣
I was surprised. Cool video!
Do cast iron ( usually cast steel ) skillets attack people or is the handle there to grab them with to deflect them ?
I thought they would ricochet off. Boy was I wrong. And I thought the .45 would have won the 'hole size' contest if it had been hit closer to center. I think hitting so close to the edge kept the size down. jmo. Loved the video. Nice shooting!
I thought they might bounce off too. Why I stood so far away 😂
Yup i like shooting the milk jugs!
Love puttin' lead thru skillets! Great targets!
Yee yee! Fun targets! Thanks maniac!
WOW! i love the 4570
WOW....a disc harrow? that's one sweet projectile....
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Me three!
Thank you for the good and practical things you need to know if really want to "be prepared." I know, I am just a big boy scout too. Boys and their toys. Guns, cars and girls.
Hey brother! I really like your so
How a lot! I watch as much as I can. I have a question. Have you shot a 40 cal hollow point into the clay block?
So I had a nightmare last night and wondered why. Then I remembered there was a Hi-Point C9 under my pillow.
I keep a C9 by me in the kitchen. And a JHP 45 beside me in the bedroom. HP's are crude, but effective. I've got $250 in the pair. HP has great customer service as well.
Nothing wrong with hi point
@@devincruse6736 my wife bought me a 9mm hi point and it shoots flawlessly!!!! A good hot round and A hi point is all I need for the house. Well, besides my shotgun. Stay safe!!
How the hell will I cook my bacon now?
Microwave
It works good in the microwave, get ye one o' them plastic microwave cookers.
Your videos are great
SIG P 229 in .40. Great Gun 👍 that was my first and Favorite Handgun LOVE IT
The way the pan reacts when it is hit by the 9mm compared to how it reacts to the .45 makes me think there's something to the whole "knock down power" of the .45
Me too! Thanks for watching!
The difference in the way the skillet bounced around is due the the difference in energy transferred AND the difference in shot placement. The 9mm bullet was only 115gr, the .45ACP bullet was 230 grams -- twice the weight, but the .45 bullet was almost certainly travelling slower.
Although both mass and velocity contribute to the muzzle energy, the muzzle energy is proportional to the mass while proportional to the square of the velocity. The velocity of the bullet is a more important determinant of muzzle energy. For a constant velocity, if the mass is doubled, the energy is doubled; however, for a constant mass, if the velocity is doubled, the muzzle energy increases four times.
In this case, we are not looking exactly at muzzle energy, but at the downrange energy of the round, however at 20 yards neither bullet will have slowed enough to make much difference.
The TYPICAL velocity for the 115gr 9mm is around 1,246 fps. while the TYPICAL velocity for the 230gr .45ACP is around 850 fps. The actual energy of the 9mm round would have been about 10-12% GREATER than the energy of the .45 round hitting the skillet, but we don't know how much of the energy was actually transferred to the skillet.
IF the faster 9mm round actually passed completely through the skillet it might not have transferred all of its energy to the skillet while the slower .45 round could have been stopped by the skillet (even while blasting a hole through it). Without a high speed camera to get ultra-slow motion video there isn't any way to see what happened as each bullet hit the skillet. As an educated GUESS, my guess is that both bullets transferred very similar amounts of energy to the skillet -- certainly NOT enough difference in energy transfer to account for the visible difference in how the skillet bounced around from the impacts.
So, why did the skillet bounce around so much more dramatically when struck by the .45 round? I would expect that SHOT PLACEMENT had the most to do with it. The 9mm round struck barely off center so it had to try to move the whole skillet almost straight back. The .45 round struck way out near the edge, causing the skillet to spin around, which is what we saw happen.
I 'll stick with the 9.mm and .45 they both have been WAR TESTED and the .40 is just one of the new fancy new comers like the 10.mm as well
i have a feeling a .40 or 10mm will do just as good if you are okay with the 9mm and the .45ACP
No doubt the .45 is THE go-to round for stopping/knockdown power
Would like to see the same using Lodge caste iron skillets. Think they would be thicker than the one used here.
Might have to get some today
Great video
And grandmas across the world all cried out in unison, as a perfectly good cast iron pan was wasted!
Guess cast iron would not make a good bullet proof vest armor.
sir you will have to make your cornbread mix really thick now
Super thick ! Thanks for watching the truth! 😂🖒
Lmao
Muy bueno el video Tank
Great video, im a nrw gunowner and just joined a shooting club.
So to me its nice to see how different calibers work in real life. 👍
How about a bigger skillet or frying pan also cast iron, vs 44 magnum or .357?
So hanging some cast iron fry pans all over your body wouldn't be effective armor? Damn!
Nope probably a bad idea 😂 thanks Mark!
Real thick!
Mark...Ha, that's what I was thinking...LOL..!!
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Not in the least
I'd like to see clean shots ( not next to the skillet edge ) with the .40 and .45 as the 9 was.
Separate pans, too. The shots may compromise the strength of the pan changing the variables for subsequent rounds.
I did the same thing with cast iron and got the same results, I was hoping it would bounce off the make a cool ringing sound but after 5 or 6 shots it pretty much just shattered
This video does nicely. Still surprised with the 9mm though. Thought it'd just bounce off with no hole. Good shooting.
It looks like the .45 hit the rim of the skillet and was deflected. You really should have used three skillets
Should have huh. I dont think it hit the rim. May have tho. Thanks for watching!
Going the cheap way one skillet rot all three guns
Yep, the test was a flub dub failure.
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I was thinking the same thing.. also that look like cheap cast iron pans... actually I kno they were bc of the symbol on the bottom... use a antique lodge pan, those super thick ones... good metal was used back then. 😎
Never try this with a forged steel pan.
Great test, thanks for sharing, new fan here
I was watching and wondering how lethal the bullets would be after going through? Should do it with some ballistic gel block behind it to see if they are still lethal after. I’m guessing yes but would like to see.