Cast iron is extremely heavy, but it's also extremely brittle. I used to install tile, and occasionally during remodels we would have to remove old cast iron tubs for replacement, and we found it was easier to shatter them with a sledge hammer than to lug them down 1 or 2 flights of stairs.
It seems to me that the .40 hole was only slightly larger because the bullet hit a bit farther from the edge than the .45 did, so the cavity had room to widen to it's fullest, but since the edge is stronger, the .45's hole didn't have the space to get a full radius of destruction.
The .40 is a great round, but then again so is the .357 mag revolver round which nobody talks about these days. I prefer the .45 because I am very comfortable with it. Shoot what you are comfortable with. If it is a .22 LR then so be it. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with a .22 LR, and some of those guns are super-accurate. Peace, Love!!
Because it probably barely went through so most of the energy was dumped right into the pan. With good hollow point bullets, all 3 rounds will dump all energy into a human, and they all do comparable damage. Around 350-590 foot pounds for all 3 rounds. Max of 500 for 9mm and 590 for the other two. Average 430 for 9mm and 500 for the other two. Not a significant difference. They're a little more powerful but nothing significant and they are all just relatively "weak" handgun rounds, and all 3 have the capacity to easily kill a man.
Swinging (and movement in the direction of the shot in general) is the sign of momentum transfer (3rd law of Newton), not kinetic energy. Energy transfer destroys, momentum transfer moves. 40 have a bit more energy than 45 if loaded to the same % of SAAMI maximums and shot from the barrels of the same length. Simply because 40 has much, MUCH higher pressure while just a bit lower area of the cross-section of the bore. There is no magic,just basic physics. Energy = area of the cross-section of the bore multiplied by the integral of the pressure over the path of the bullet (path in the barrel being from the rearmost part of the widest part of the bullet - so not counting boat tail if present - to the muzzle if you are interested in muzzle energy).
@Jeffrey BoneMy pleasure, I really enjoyed his man with no name trilogy, based on Yojimbo from Japan. Now back in the day, those were great movies, Japanese or American.
I think the .45 hit closer to the edge which is why the hole it left was a bit smaller and lopsided. My bet would be if you hit them both well away from the edge the .45 would leave a bigger hole.
I think that all three rounds should have been fired at the center of the skillet... okay you would need 3 different skillets. But yeah had the .45 been on center it would have been larger.
I finally got one right! I thought all would penetrate through the pans but I was using your rifle video's penetrating 3 skillets as a reference point. Very interesting. Thanks!
I mostly expected the results you experienced. The iron in the average skillet is fairly brittle. My cousin worked for a cookware manufacturing concern; he told me that the iron is subjected to some sort of treatment once the skillet is formed to harden it. The spalling around each hole on the backside of the skillet and the lack of a concave quality to the exit suggests the metal is far less elastic than typical plate iron.
I guess theres differences in cast iron as we shot one about month ago with Ruger 22cal and penetrating was really close.Fastest rounds was sold out so we couldnt get fastest 22cal rounds.
I thought you were using a real cast iron skillet. That's a Chinese copy of a skillet. The real ones are almost 1/2" thick. A .22 would punch a hole in that one you used.
Would never want to be on the receiving in of a .45 ACP. DESIGNED TO REPLACE U.S.CALVARY COLT REVOLER 45 LONG COLT AND JOHN BROWNING DID IT. OLD WINCHESTER 240 SILVER TIP HOLLOW POINTS .45 ACP MAKE IT ABOUT PERFECT MATCH TO THE FAMOUS .45 LONG COLT.
Holy crap. I would have guessed 3 bounces just like you. I'm surprised at the results. Now you have me wondering what would happen with a .22 and a .380.
Excellent demonstration, thanks for taking the time to put this video together! I've yet to shoot a .40, but from everything, I continue to see I'm Very Impressed!
The reason the .40 made the same size hole as the .45 is due to the round you used. The .40 was a flat tip vs the typical round .45. As seen in 55 seconds into the video.
45 was closer to the edge. It would be interesting to see a closer shot with the 45 in the middle of the target. I think it would be bigger than the 40.
Can you try this again but please use a bigger thicker cast iron pan, like the one in PUBG. Please shoot the opposite side and use a fresh one for each bullet. It should be bulletproof if you shoot the opposite side.
I thought they would ricochet off. Boy was I wrong. And I thought the .45 would have won the 'hole size' contest if it had been hit closer to center. I think hitting so close to the edge kept the size down. jmo. Loved the video. Nice shooting!
Round per round the 45acp is always gonna be more deadly at handgun fighting distances if you can handle it. If your better w a 9mm then by all means rock it. It's a fairly adequate caliber and w less recoil and a little more capacity. I hate arguing calibers cause the die hard 9mm club always think your telling them that they got a small dick when u say use it if its better for you and they get offended. I like plinking w and carry a 9mm sometimes. But im 6,4 235 and stout. So the recoil on a 45acp isn't an issue for me and in a semi auto if a weapon holds 8 or more is plenty. Especially if you carry a spare mag. Most times I rock a 7 shot 357magnum w a speed load. And I'm not an old head. I'm in my late 30,s. To me its just common sense that bigger holes are better w semi,s. But all my Glocks I've ran the hell out of and they will occasionally jam. My quality revolvers never have.
I can shoot 9mm all day long. After about half hour with the 45, my wrist is telling me it’s time to stop, and I’m anticipating the recoil. And, frankly, I just don’t enjoy it. And I think that’s really what it comes down to. If you don’t like shooting your firearm, then you’re not going to practice with it. And although I’m a “woman of a certain age,“ I do love shooting shotguns. But 45s just hurt me. We are all different and weird. 😊
The only thing about the 45 shot it was on the corner of the skillet, which makes the metal stronger. For a better match U would have to have a shot closer to center.
I think that the .45 cal. Would of shown more damage if he'd hit the skillet further from the edge. The Skillet is thicker and also stronger on the curved edge.
This is true. If you notice the energy transfer with the 45 was much higher too. The strike point was closer to the edge thereby reducing hole size. Regardless, the 40 and 45 would have made equivalent holes. Most important part is not to get shot by either.
@@diarrheadan8088 Your ignorant opinion is as worthless as your name. The hole on the .45 is about as big as the one the .40 made, however, the difference in energy was enormous. The .45 slammed that pan against the fence, whereas the pan didn't even touch the fence with the .40. The .45 did exactly what it was designed to do.
I would not want to get shot with any of the three, but my service round for over 20 years of service was a .40 S&W .......I still own my old backup weapon a Glock 27 .......
I was thinking the same thing.. also that look like cheap cast iron pans... actually I kno they were bc of the symbol on the bottom... use a antique lodge pan, those super thick ones... good metal was used back then. 😎
Cast iron is kind of brittle to shock compared to the steels. Different cast irons will do differently and react differently to the shock of the bullet but I tend to think a 22 mag will put a hole it in. Like others have said, look at how the 45 hit closest to the rim. More important, look how the 45 moved the skillet--that sucker was in it's death throe. It's satisfying to know when the Skillet Zombie apocalypse happens just about anything will do. The 45 created violent skillet death throes as soon as it hit. Can you try throwing a hammer at the skillet next time?
I'm confused as you said they were similar bullets, and yes they all had fmj bullets. However the .40 had a flat point fmj the others didn't. This would make a different wound chanel (even in cast iron) compared to a round nose fmj don't you think?
@Dr Beechas "Moving" is momentum transfer, actually WASTE of energy as the energy wasted on moving the target cannot be spent usefully destroying the target. Basic physics, laws of conservation of momentum and energy.
Actually, a .22 lr CCI mini mag will blow through a cast iron pan! I’ve done it. So much for a .22 LR hollow point mini mag not being adequate for self defense.
GYPSY KING FURY, either one does the same thing. Actually, I’ve done the same thing with my break barrel .22 cal air rifle. At 20 yards my pellets blow through a new cast iron pan! One well placed head shot with my air rifle and you’re dead!
The placement of the shot is also a big factor. For the 40, the shot landed on the upper portion of the skillet and the skillet didn't move as much (little energy loss). For the 45, the shot landed on the bottom portion of the skillet and the skillet moved a lot (loss of energy). Next time, probably hold the skillet so it doesn't move and the result will be more consistent.
I think the .45 won really because you hit closer to the brim on that one and had you hit the center of the pan it would have been a much bigger hole. look at the widest point blown out on the .45 and it's a lot bigger than either the .40 or 9mm
Well done for getting 3 out of 4 from 20 yards. Many tests I see are from much closer. I wonder what the results would look like with non jacketed rounds.
The way the pan reacts when it is hit by the 9mm compared to how it reacts to the .45 makes me think there's something to the whole "knock down power" of the .45
The difference in the way the skillet bounced around is due the the difference in energy transferred AND the difference in shot placement. The 9mm bullet was only 115gr, the .45ACP bullet was 230 grams -- twice the weight, but the .45 bullet was almost certainly travelling slower. Although both mass and velocity contribute to the muzzle energy, the muzzle energy is proportional to the mass while proportional to the square of the velocity. The velocity of the bullet is a more important determinant of muzzle energy. For a constant velocity, if the mass is doubled, the energy is doubled; however, for a constant mass, if the velocity is doubled, the muzzle energy increases four times. In this case, we are not looking exactly at muzzle energy, but at the downrange energy of the round, however at 20 yards neither bullet will have slowed enough to make much difference. The TYPICAL velocity for the 115gr 9mm is around 1,246 fps. while the TYPICAL velocity for the 230gr .45ACP is around 850 fps. The actual energy of the 9mm round would have been about 10-12% GREATER than the energy of the .45 round hitting the skillet, but we don't know how much of the energy was actually transferred to the skillet. IF the faster 9mm round actually passed completely through the skillet it might not have transferred all of its energy to the skillet while the slower .45 round could have been stopped by the skillet (even while blasting a hole through it). Without a high speed camera to get ultra-slow motion video there isn't any way to see what happened as each bullet hit the skillet. As an educated GUESS, my guess is that both bullets transferred very similar amounts of energy to the skillet -- certainly NOT enough difference in energy transfer to account for the visible difference in how the skillet bounced around from the impacts. So, why did the skillet bounce around so much more dramatically when struck by the .45 round? I would expect that SHOT PLACEMENT had the most to do with it. The 9mm round struck barely off center so it had to try to move the whole skillet almost straight back. The .45 round struck way out near the edge, causing the skillet to spin around, which is what we saw happen.
Great video, I've seen similar videos kill some cast iron skillets. They made me wonder about the front doors of a wood stove. I have always wondered if a door would was body armor like Clint Eastwood, Michael J. Fox used.
Hey Mike! Tons of people commenting the exact same thing about Lodge Skillets. I have never heard of them but apparently they are pretty popular :-) thanks for watching!
The .40 round had a flatter nose than the 9mm or .45. If the .40 had a true round nose like the .45 would there be more of a difference in the hole diameter? Just curious. Also, shooting a similar thickness of steel or stainless, I'm betting they would only dent.
Something to keep in mind is that cast iron is surprisingly brittle despite it's density and weight. I thought that the 45 would have split or fractured the entire pan.
So why not add the 10mm in with a 180 or 200 grain bullet? I would really be in interested in seeing that. And the 10mm you can also shoot the 40 being the same caliber.
Only so much penetration is useful, then it becomes a liability factor. ALL these rounds have more than enough penetration, diameter after entry point and cavitation then become important
Deeper penetration can actually be more dangerous to others behind the target shot. Larger tissue damage to me is more important than smaller diameter penetrations. I go 40SW. over 9mm 24/7/365.
Cheap modern cast-iron is actually an alloy, also that pan is maybe 1/8 of an inch thick. Try using a cast-iron pan manufactured before 1950, real cast iron that’s at least a 1/4 of an inch thick. Also the Flatnose bullet on the 40 gives it an advantage, round nose bullets tend to slip and slide and deviate on impact.
You can still buy the real thing even ones made in the US but they are not cheap. Like everything else you can get cheap Chinese stuff that will be what you pay for.
It's a common mistake to think that .40 S&W is "between" 9mm (.357) and the thicker .45 ACP. Bore dimensions aside, the modern .40 has way more punch than a heavier .45 due to _practical_ cartridge Energy equations.
That's Chinese made cast iron use some American made cast iron and see if you get the same results. Try using lodge cast its heavier than Ozark trail cast
i have had the 380 and 9mm and now i have the 40 in high point there not bad guns for el cheapo it beats a pointy stick and stone in bear country i tell you what i love the 40 jcp high point there not bad great video as always
I have done this myself and knew the outcome... Cool video though. Somewhere on TH-cam there is a video of someone shooting at a cast iron water pump, same story there. Good times!!
GREAT Shootin WHO_TEE, Those skillets are heavy but pretty brittle. You can kinda see when you hold them up and show the holes. Great stuff as always my fellow American. Hey Wensday(4th) is my birthday. Maybe if you have some old appliances laying around you can see what those 3 cals will go through.
Understanding the properties of cast iron would tell one that these projectiles would penetrate it. Cast Iron is more brittle than steel, so sharp impacts will result in failure.
Should have lined the skillet with my wife's biscuits. Ain't nothing going thru them.
Lmbo 🤣
Burn!
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Damn...
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I think you should’ve used a separate pan for each shot. Each shot compromises the integrity of the pan weakening it, like a bullet resistant vest.
Good point, but then he would have to spend 3x as much.
sure are you buying the skillets ?
agree
Everyone knows TH-camrs are pulling in the big bucks. Buy 3 skillets.
The skillets can cost more than some of the guns he's using.
This is extremely important information for anyone hunting iron skillets, or if you are threatened by rogue skillets in your area.
Yup
Also a good way to punish stubborn and bad skillets.
mothman1967 😁
Placement is much more important than caliber when defending against skillets.
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Cast iron is extremely heavy, but it's also extremely brittle. I used to install tile, and occasionally during remodels we would have to remove old cast iron tubs for replacement, and we found it was easier to shatter them with a sledge hammer than to lug them down 1 or 2 flights of stairs.
Now you know you can just shoot them up into pieces or at least create holes to drag them by
Been there, done that. Waaaaayy easier, Brother!
It's a pain in the dick to stress relieve a huge bathtub, a pan not so much.
I tried sledge hammers with my cast iron tub and was afraid I would break the framing, so I switched to my sawmill and cut up the old tub.
Be Thankful You weren't the Plumber that had to lug them UP the stairs.
The first problem I noticed was, you didn't "season" the skillet. 🤠
😁😁😁👍👍 thanks for watching Ted!
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@@WHOTEEWHO I think you need to redo this test with a real Skillet a LODGE SKILLET!!!
Did that already...5 other videos with EXPENSIVE LODGE SKILLETS
Omg 😂 that’s what I thought too
It seems to me that the .40 hole was only slightly larger because the bullet hit a bit farther from the edge than the .45 did, so the cavity had room to widen to it's fullest, but since the edge is stronger, the .45's hole didn't have the space to get a full radius of destruction.
You're exactly correct. Corners are always stronger
The .40 is a great round, but then again so is the .357 mag revolver round which nobody talks about these days. I prefer the .45 because I am very comfortable with it. Shoot what you are comfortable with. If it is a .22 LR then so be it. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with a .22 LR, and some of those guns are super-accurate. Peace, Love!!
I just want to say that the second greatest killing implement in the history of warfare is 230 grain, .45 ball ammo!🇺🇸
Also because the 40 is flattened already so expands more on impact.
Also, the 40 was a flat nose
That's what you get when you bring a skillet to a gunfight.
Did you see the handle?
Only on PUBG 🤣
Did anyone else see how much more the pan swong when hit with the .45? That thing had a lot of kinetic energy!
The 45 definitely smacked it a lot harder than the others.
Chunking Missiles lol I’d love to see 10mm!
Because it probably barely went through so most of the energy was dumped right into the pan. With good hollow point bullets, all 3 rounds will dump all energy into a human, and they all do comparable damage. Around 350-590 foot pounds for all 3 rounds. Max of 500 for 9mm and 590 for the other two. Average 430 for 9mm and 500 for the other two. Not a significant difference. They're a little more powerful but nothing significant and they are all just relatively "weak" handgun rounds, and all 3 have the capacity to easily kill a man.
Swinging (and movement in the direction of the shot in general) is the sign of momentum transfer (3rd law of Newton), not kinetic energy.
Energy transfer destroys, momentum transfer moves. 40 have a bit more energy than 45 if loaded to the same % of SAAMI maximums and shot from the barrels of the same length. Simply because 40 has much, MUCH higher pressure while just a bit lower area of the cross-section of the bore.
There is no magic,just basic physics. Energy = area of the cross-section of the bore multiplied by the integral of the pressure over the path of the bullet (path in the barrel being from the rearmost part of the widest part of the bullet - so not counting boat tail if present - to the muzzle if you are interested in muzzle energy).
Yeah.45 extremely energy
Moral of the story .... "you just can't find a good bullet proof skillet these days
I think your right here, lol
No Ozark trail that’s for sure
Don't copy Clint in 'A Fist Full of Dollars', his vest survived, being the door of a wood store.
@Jeffrey Bone Very true, good quote, "sorry, make that 4 coffins". Definitely don't make good westerns like his any more.
@Jeffrey BoneMy pleasure, I really enjoyed his man with no name trilogy, based on Yojimbo from Japan. Now back in the day, those were great movies, Japanese or American.
I wish my Grandpa would just get TH-cam.
He used to do tests like this in his garage back in the day.
He would love this stuff.
Considering how brittle cast iron is I am surprised that the skillet was not cracked by the rounds as well as holed.
Word!! Same here...
Hell an air rifle could shoot a hole through a cast iron skeelet!!
...or shattered.
I think the skillet won here, even after you wasted all your ammo on it , it could still crack you over the head and kill you 😁
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Only at very close range. That’s the disadvantage. 😒
YES YES! And less wind drag having 3 vents now
Put a few more holes in it and you have the world's heaviest cheese grater
Yeah right, you can also still fry an egg in the lower right portion of the skillet. Lol
I’m torn here. I love my guns, but I also love my iron skillets.
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There can only be one 😈
I like to grab $1 skillets at yard sales. Fun times putting big ass holes in them.
You’re torn? You should see his skillet ...
I think the .45 hit closer to the edge which is why the hole it left was a bit smaller and lopsided. My bet would be if you hit them both well away from the edge the .45 would leave a bigger hole.
Yess sir was thinking same thing
U
Exactly
I agree
Agreed
Never use a cast iron skillet for body armor!
Nope!
Marty Mcfly would beg to differ
Yep that’s the real moral of this story. Not surprising that is the nature of cast iron.
I know now!
Big Faaaaact's 😎.
Who_Tee_Who flicks are always relaxing and entertaining. Often, they are also educational. I am amazed you never run out of things to shoot.
I feel like where the 45 hit on the edge that reduced the size of the hole. Look how round the 45 is compared to the 40
I think you meant how round the 40 hole was compared to the 45. The 45 hit closer to the crease so would have made a bigger hole. I fully agree.
I think that all three rounds should have been fired at the center of the skillet... okay you would need 3 different skillets. But yeah had the .45 been on center it would have been larger.
The 40 made a bigger hole because of the flat bullet
@@TomahawkChopa the 40 was only slightly bigger because the 45 hit the edge of the skillet...
.40 has more energy than .45.
Thanks for the comparison. It made me proud to know my 40 cal packs a nice wallop.
Thanks for watching Big Ron!
Heck man I just subscribed and rang the bell too. Stay safe
Hey thanks appreciate that! New video every day, quite a bit of awesome stuff coming out in the next couple weeks
Big Ron I carry a Springfield XD Mod. 2 subcompact 40. It's a little snappy for my taste, but I love it.
Springfield XD is a good choice
I finally got one right! I thought all would penetrate through the pans but I was using your rifle video's penetrating 3 skillets as a reference point. Very interesting. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Vic!
I mostly expected the results you experienced. The iron in the average skillet is fairly brittle. My cousin worked for a cookware manufacturing concern; he told me that the iron is subjected to some sort of treatment once the skillet is formed to harden it. The spalling around each hole on the backside of the skillet and the lack of a concave quality to the exit suggests the metal is far less elastic than typical plate iron.
It's stress relieved, not hardened.
Ya, no deformation, just pure shear force hole punch
I guess theres differences in cast iron as we shot one about month ago with Ruger 22cal and penetrating was really close.Fastest rounds was sold out so we couldnt get fastest 22cal rounds.
Though I'm sure the outcome would be the same, doesn't the skillet lose more and more structural integrity after each hole versus a new skillet?
J D WTW IS CHEAP AND A NUT JOB TO BOOT !!!
Absolutely true
Totally agree, skillet was compromised first round!
Thank you
Bottom line: Any of those three calibers will do....pick your preference and practice.
@Thomas Beaty What about 32 cal?
Yep, i agree! Practice is more important than engaging in my-caliber-is -better-than-yours debates
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Great video I enjoyed this. People don't realize how hard it is to hit a paper plate at 20 yards with a small pistol, good shooting.
we shoot .45 cal. black powder muzzleloading pistols and revolvers at 25 and 50 yards. 25 yds ain't that hard. 50 yds is a different story.
Do ever go back in time and watch your old content! Look how far you’ve come . Amazing
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My mom would shoot me with those guns if I even thought about shooting her cast iron skillet 😂😂😂
As she should
I thought you were using a real cast iron skillet. That's a Chinese copy of a skillet. The real ones are almost 1/2" thick. A .22 would punch a hole in that one you used.
Probably right there :-) Thanks Daniel
no doubt , definitely a factor to consider, my grandmothers old cast iron skillets could stop a tomahawk missile :P
Bahahaha... no skillet is 1/2 inch thick. None
You are right because the skillet my dad uses I would be amazed even if a .357 could bust it lol
Agreed.👍
No matter what happens, the 45 acp is my choice
Glock 21 gen 4, CCW for 2 years. No regrets
5 Wars ; it is a proven performer...Spanish American War...WW 1 and WW2 ...Korea & Viet Nam...
Would never want to be on the receiving in of a .45 ACP.
DESIGNED TO REPLACE U.S.CALVARY COLT REVOLER 45 LONG COLT AND JOHN BROWNING DID IT.
OLD WINCHESTER 240 SILVER TIP HOLLOW POINTS .45 ACP MAKE IT ABOUT PERFECT MATCH TO THE FAMOUS .45 LONG COLT.
yup!
.45 is my choice for a side arm. I feel more confident with it and it has been very reliable.
Every gun video I watch most people seem very knowledgeable and make lucid arguments on weapons and how to use them responsibly.
I have the 40 S&W and will stay with it.
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40 H&K here. Wouldn't swap it for any
Same here man the 40 SW SD all the way
Glock 22 .40 S&W👍
Love the Smith & wesson 40 also the Colt 1911 45
Holy crap. I would have guessed 3 bounces just like you. I'm surprised at the results. Now you have me wondering what would happen with a .22 and a .380.
Surprised me
The movement of the skillet when the .45acp struck it was all you need to comprehend.🤣
Same 40 I Carry every day. Just something about it I've always loved s&w
I'm no rocket scientist but I would have used 3 different skillets. 🐢🐢🐢
Thanks Anthony. Good point
He said they are expensive. At Walmart they are almost 5 dollars each. LMAO This nut is confused.
LOL. I think they are $8. $24 is a whole lotta money for me 🖒🖒thanks for watching!
Well, you will just have to decide what is more important, bullets or cooking implements?
It’s a open field . Calm your tits
Excellent demonstration, thanks for taking the time to put this video together! I've yet to shoot a .40, but from everything, I continue to see I'm Very Impressed!
Thanks for watching!
0:48 Hank Hill talking about a propane grills.
I get that comment a lot! Thanks for watching :-)
The reason the .40 made the same size hole as the .45 is due to the round you used. The .40 was a flat tip vs the typical round .45. As seen in 55 seconds into the video.
Standard 40 fmj is flat nose
45 was closer to the edge. It would be interesting to see a closer shot with the 45 in the middle of the target. I think it would be bigger than the 40.
40 and 45 are actually pretty close. Depends what brand of ammo. People just don’t like the 40cal , mostly because of these TH-camrs
In the event of a skillet apocalypse, I'm with you!
😂😂😂 thanks Ed!
I would be curious to see what a 125 grain .357 Magnum would do to Cast Iron.
Can you try this again but please use a bigger thicker cast iron pan, like the one in PUBG. Please shoot the opposite side and use a fresh one for each bullet. It should be bulletproof if you shoot the opposite side.
The chef in me cried a little 😂
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I thought they would ricochet off. Boy was I wrong. And I thought the .45 would have won the 'hole size' contest if it had been hit closer to center. I think hitting so close to the edge kept the size down. jmo. Loved the video. Nice shooting!
I thought they might bounce off too. Why I stood so far away 😂
Yup i like shooting the milk jugs!
Round per round the 45acp is always gonna be more deadly at handgun fighting distances if you can handle it. If your better w a 9mm then by all means rock it. It's a fairly adequate caliber and w less recoil and a little more capacity. I hate arguing calibers cause the die hard 9mm club always think your telling them that they got a small dick when u say use it if its better for you and they get offended. I like plinking w and carry a 9mm sometimes. But im 6,4 235 and stout. So the recoil on a 45acp isn't an issue for me and in a semi auto if a weapon holds 8 or more is plenty. Especially if you carry a spare mag. Most times I rock a 7 shot 357magnum w a speed load. And I'm not an old head. I'm in my late 30,s. To me its just common sense that bigger holes are better w semi,s. But all my Glocks I've ran the hell out of and they will occasionally jam. My quality revolvers never have.
I can shoot 9mm all day long. After about half hour with the 45, my wrist is telling me it’s time to stop, and I’m anticipating the recoil. And, frankly, I just don’t enjoy it. And I think that’s really what it comes down to. If you don’t like shooting your firearm, then you’re not going to practice with it. And although I’m a “woman of a certain age,“ I do love shooting shotguns. But 45s just hurt me. We are all different and weird. 😊
The only thing about the 45 shot it was on the corner of the skillet, which makes the metal stronger. For a better match U would have to have a shot closer to center.
The .40 Did the EXACT Same thing the .45 Did, BOTH on the edge of the Skillet.
Thanks for the video, 40cal looks better than expected.
Thanks for watching!
I think that the .45 cal. Would of shown more damage if he'd hit the skillet further from the edge. The Skillet is thicker and also stronger on the curved edge.
The 40 did just fine. Face it the .45 is a joke.
@@diarrheadan8088 excellent observation
@@ejmattdelacruz1358 Idk why people won't face it. The .45 just isn't that good.
This is true. If you notice the energy transfer with the 45 was much higher too. The strike point was closer to the edge thereby reducing hole size. Regardless, the 40 and 45 would have made equivalent holes. Most important part is not to get shot by either.
@@diarrheadan8088 Your ignorant opinion is as worthless as your name. The hole on the .45 is about as big as the one the .40 made, however, the difference in energy was enormous. The .45 slammed that pan against the fence, whereas the pan didn't even touch the fence with the .40. The .45 did exactly what it was designed to do.
I would not want to get shot with any of the three, but my service round for over 20 years of service was a .40 S&W .......I still own my old backup weapon a Glock 27 .......
The pan is a paid actor
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It looks like the .45 hit the rim of the skillet and was deflected. You really should have used three skillets
Should have huh. I dont think it hit the rim. May have tho. Thanks for watching!
Going the cheap way one skillet rot all three guns
Yep, the test was a flub dub failure.
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I was thinking the same thing.. also that look like cheap cast iron pans... actually I kno they were bc of the symbol on the bottom... use a antique lodge pan, those super thick ones... good metal was used back then. 😎
Cast iron is kind of brittle to shock compared to the steels. Different cast irons will do differently and react differently to the shock of the bullet but I tend to think a 22 mag will put a hole it in. Like others have said, look at how the 45 hit closest to the rim. More important, look how the 45 moved the skillet--that sucker was in it's death throe. It's satisfying to know when the Skillet Zombie apocalypse happens just about anything will do. The 45 created violent skillet death throes as soon as it hit. Can you try throwing a hammer at the skillet next time?
I'm confused as you said they were similar bullets, and yes they all had fmj bullets. However the .40 had a flat point fmj the others didn't. This would make a different wound chanel (even in cast iron) compared to a round nose fmj don't you think?
I have to say that the .45 may have made a slightly smaller hole than the .40, however the .45 certainly moved the skillet a whole lot more.
Yea because the 45 is slower , 40 went through quicker.
Accurate
@Dr Beechas "Moving" is momentum transfer, actually WASTE of energy as the energy wasted on moving the target cannot be spent usefully destroying the target.
Basic physics, laws of conservation of momentum and energy.
The .45 hits with the greatest energy!!! Hands down!!!!!!
All that matters here is they are both better than 9mm!
Actually, a .22 lr CCI mini mag will blow through a cast iron pan! I’ve done it. So much for a .22 LR hollow point mini mag not being adequate for self defense.
GYPSY KING FURY, either one does the same thing. Actually, I’ve done the same thing with my break barrel .22 cal air rifle. At 20 yards my pellets blow through a new cast iron pan! One well placed head shot with my air rifle and you’re dead!
The placement of the shot is also a big factor. For the 40, the shot landed on the upper portion of the skillet and the skillet didn't move as much (little energy loss). For the 45, the shot landed on the bottom portion of the skillet and the skillet moved a lot (loss of energy). Next time, probably hold the skillet so it doesn't move and the result will be more consistent.
Plus the rib on the outside adds alot of strength
Id love to see a couple skillets lined up and test how many would stop a bullet, same calibers used here!
I think the .45 won really because you hit closer to the brim on that one and had you hit the center of the pan it would have been a much bigger hole. look at the widest point blown out on the .45 and it's a lot bigger than either the .40 or 9mm
Well done for getting 3 out of 4 from 20 yards. Many tests I see are from much closer. I wonder what the results would look like with non jacketed rounds.
That's the thinnest cast iron skillet I've ever seen.
My US made Lodge skillets are thicker than this Chinese manufactured Ozark Trail junk.
I was saying that exact same thing.
It took a bit for the skillet to stop swinging after the 45. Wonder if it's just where it hit.
Great Video...That's Why I Cook on the " New oiless Stick Free Copper Pans with the Lifetime Warranty"
The way the pan reacts when it is hit by the 9mm compared to how it reacts to the .45 makes me think there's something to the whole "knock down power" of the .45
Me too! Thanks for watching!
The difference in the way the skillet bounced around is due the the difference in energy transferred AND the difference in shot placement. The 9mm bullet was only 115gr, the .45ACP bullet was 230 grams -- twice the weight, but the .45 bullet was almost certainly travelling slower.
Although both mass and velocity contribute to the muzzle energy, the muzzle energy is proportional to the mass while proportional to the square of the velocity. The velocity of the bullet is a more important determinant of muzzle energy. For a constant velocity, if the mass is doubled, the energy is doubled; however, for a constant mass, if the velocity is doubled, the muzzle energy increases four times.
In this case, we are not looking exactly at muzzle energy, but at the downrange energy of the round, however at 20 yards neither bullet will have slowed enough to make much difference.
The TYPICAL velocity for the 115gr 9mm is around 1,246 fps. while the TYPICAL velocity for the 230gr .45ACP is around 850 fps. The actual energy of the 9mm round would have been about 10-12% GREATER than the energy of the .45 round hitting the skillet, but we don't know how much of the energy was actually transferred to the skillet.
IF the faster 9mm round actually passed completely through the skillet it might not have transferred all of its energy to the skillet while the slower .45 round could have been stopped by the skillet (even while blasting a hole through it). Without a high speed camera to get ultra-slow motion video there isn't any way to see what happened as each bullet hit the skillet. As an educated GUESS, my guess is that both bullets transferred very similar amounts of energy to the skillet -- certainly NOT enough difference in energy transfer to account for the visible difference in how the skillet bounced around from the impacts.
So, why did the skillet bounce around so much more dramatically when struck by the .45 round? I would expect that SHOT PLACEMENT had the most to do with it. The 9mm round struck barely off center so it had to try to move the whole skillet almost straight back. The .45 round struck way out near the edge, causing the skillet to spin around, which is what we saw happen.
I 'll stick with the 9.mm and .45 they both have been WAR TESTED and the .40 is just one of the new fancy new comers like the 10.mm as well
i have a feeling a .40 or 10mm will do just as good if you are okay with the 9mm and the .45ACP
No doubt the .45 is THE go-to round for stopping/knockdown power
I was wrong again as I need not go to Vegas and do any betting...Cool testing....Good stuff...
For some reason, IDK why, this is my favorite of the 9v40v45 comparisons so far.
Thanks for watching David
Send that pan back.
Is it under warranty ???
It might be under warranty! :-) good idea!
It was cheap 15 dollar Wal-Mart skillet.lmao
More like $8. But I have 5 or so videos shooting mode expensive Lodge skillets which fell apart just as easily as these
With the 9MM use the Hornady Critical duty 135 Gr +p a huge difference you'll see
Mr. Pan Man,, bring me a dream ,, make it cutest 45 I've ever seen!! 😂
You better just knock it off with that hilarious comment 🤣🤣🤣
Hey buddy I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for taking the time to put this together and for posting. Mike, San Antonio Texas.
Thanks for watching!
I'd like to see clean shots ( not next to the skillet edge ) with the .40 and .45 as the 9 was.
Separate pans, too. The shots may compromise the strength of the pan changing the variables for subsequent rounds.
Great video, I've seen similar videos kill some cast iron skillets. They made me wonder about the front doors of a wood stove. I have always wondered if a door would was body armor like Clint Eastwood, Michael J. Fox used.
The rounds they used in that era may have been lower velocity. The cast iron may have been thicker also. We'll just have to try it. Right?
How about trying it with a Lodge cast iron, better quality.
Hey Mike! Tons of people commenting the exact same thing about Lodge Skillets. I have never heard of them but apparently they are pretty popular :-) thanks for watching!
ANY Cast Iron Skillet WILL BREAK, CAST IRON IS BRITTLE AS FUCK. MORON
The .40 round had a flatter nose than the 9mm or .45. If the .40 had a true round nose like the .45 would there be more of a difference in the hole diameter? Just curious. Also, shooting a similar thickness of steel or stainless, I'm betting they would only dent.
How the hell will I cook my bacon now?
Microwave
It works good in the microwave, get ye one o' them plastic microwave cookers.
Knowing how brittle cast iron usually is, I'm surprised it wasn't cracked into pieces with any of those three rounds.
Cool to see what happened in this one.Thanks for watching!
It was seasoned lol
Never try this with a forged steel pan.
Makes you appreciate the durability of AR500 steel targets
U should have added a .22 LR that would give us an idea of how strong was our target
Thanks for watching! Will put 22 on the next skillet video!
sir you will have to make your cornbread mix really thick now
Super thick ! Thanks for watching the truth! 😂🖒
Lmao
Something to keep in mind is that cast iron is surprisingly brittle despite it's density and weight. I thought that the 45 would have split or fractured the entire pan.
This is very true. You can split a cast iron skillet by dropping them.
@@dmscholl4 LOL. Been there done that. 😀
@@nickyp310 oh no!!!
So why not add the 10mm in with a 180 or 200 grain bullet? I would really be in interested in seeing that. And the 10mm you can also shoot the 40 being the same caliber.
Good season skillet , looks like nothing stuck
Brand new off wally world shelf 😂 thanks for watching!
I would say the 9mm hole was smaller because of its increased velocity. The others made a larger hole but the 9mm would have penetrated deeper
Only so much penetration is useful, then it becomes a liability factor. ALL these rounds have more than enough penetration, diameter after entry point and cavitation then become important
Deeper penetration can actually be more dangerous to others behind the target shot. Larger tissue damage to me is more important than smaller diameter penetrations.
I go 40SW. over 9mm 24/7/365.
Cheap modern cast-iron is actually an alloy, also that pan is maybe 1/8 of an inch thick. Try using a cast-iron pan manufactured before 1950, real cast iron that’s at least a 1/4 of an inch thick. Also the Flatnose bullet on the 40 gives it an advantage, round nose bullets tend to slip and slide and deviate on impact.
Thanks Aaron!
You can still buy the real thing even ones made in the US but they are not cheap. Like everything else you can get cheap Chinese stuff that will be what you pay for.
It looks like the bullets are flattening out then punching through the pan. Quite awesome.
Put a smile on that happy face skillet.. Thanks for that
😂 thanks for watching Bobby!
It's a common mistake to think that .40 S&W is "between" 9mm (.357) and the thicker .45 ACP. Bore dimensions aside, the modern .40 has way more punch than a heavier .45 due to _practical_ cartridge Energy equations.
Lol...uh NOPE...45 is superior in every way...with cheap ammo or expensive....you esses dont know guns
Bro, Ive punched a hole through a cast iron skillet with a CCI Mini Mag.
Cast Iron is brittle so any hard strike can crack it, every shot will punch through the skillet. I've seen 22LR actually go through them.
Guess cast iron would not make a good bullet proof vest armor.
The 45 had a LOT more movement.
That's Chinese made cast iron use some American made cast iron and see if you get the same results. Try using lodge cast its heavier than Ozark trail cast
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Thanks for watching George Washington!
i have had the 380 and 9mm and now i have the 40 in high point there not bad guns for el cheapo it beats a pointy stick and stone in bear country i tell you what i love the 40 jcp high point there not bad great video as always
So hanging some cast iron fry pans all over your body wouldn't be effective armor? Damn!
Nope probably a bad idea 😂 thanks Mark!
Real thick!
Mark...Ha, that's what I was thinking...LOL..!!
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Not in the least
I personally feel that if the 40 n 45 wasn't on the edge, they would have made a bigger hole with the 45 being the biggest.
also, you can see he hit the edge, the bullet probably split and only a part gets in the pan to make this hole...
Do you have a brother named Zac?
Iron is a brittle metal. None of these were a surprise.
Thanks for watching! All in good fun
I really thought it would shatter. It was just a guess, but it surprised me.
How much do you shoot a week good video
Shoot every single day so i can upload a video every day. A lot of work, but fun
I have done this myself and knew the outcome... Cool video though. Somewhere on TH-cam there is a video of someone shooting at a cast iron water pump, same story there. Good times!!
I served in vietnam and the colt 1911 45 acp did a great job for close in targets but my froveite to carry was the PIG (M-60_). pleiku 4th div.
The flat nose on the 40 is why it was biggest
Legend has it that he’s still trynna redeem himself for that first shot he missed .
GREAT Shootin WHO_TEE, Those skillets are heavy but pretty brittle. You can kinda see when you hold them up and show the holes. Great stuff as always my fellow American. Hey Wensday(4th) is my birthday. Maybe if you have some old appliances laying around you can see what those 3 cals will go through.
Happy early birthday Gary!!! We will shoot off some fireworks in your honor!
Gary Allen Happy birthday.
Darrell Blake Thank you very much for the Birthday wish my friend
WHO_TEE_WHO Thank you so much. I love your Videos. Yo ur vids keep getting better and better
Gary Allen happy birthmas...
Yes I think that would be a gay idea shoot up some stuff.
Understanding the properties of cast iron would tell one that these projectiles would penetrate it. Cast Iron is more brittle than steel, so sharp impacts will result in failure.
Gonna be damn difficult to make eggs in the morning with that!
Yes it is! 😂 thanks for watching!
That pan is for swiss cheese omelets.
James Cooper ... it’s now a strainer (colander). When you want to drain things greater than 2 inches in diameter.