Pistols vs Concrete Blocks .22lr .380acp 9mm .40s&w .45acp
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Was hoping you were using the 380 xtp+p when I clicked on this! Still a neat test.
Honestly it probably would have done a better job busting through (as I think you are suspecting), seeing as how those federal barely did anything more than the .22lr did.
@@BuckeyeBallistics +P xtreme penetrators and defenders would be neat too, but those are very pricey and i know youre on a budget.
It would definitely be neat to see what the +P XTPS do since that is the exact setup i carry with an LCP max. I have some cinder blocks maybe I should shoot some and post it. lol.
Appreciate all this testing man!
I'm plannin some penetrator videos. The way these videos seem to be going (views), I might be able to do it somewhat soon.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Awesome, glad it's going well for you. I've switched over almost entirely to shorts. My full length videos might get a couple hundred views, but my shorts get thousands.
Well that explains why I haven't gotten a notification in forever. Only problem with shorts is that you don't earn revenue from them once you're monetized (no ads). But it's a good way to reach out and bring people to the channel.
If you do that XTP +p on a cinder block: 1- let me know when it's up. 2- be careful!
22lr is for training/plinking by many but if it can down a deer, it can and will down a bad guy. Not replacing a 9mm by any means but only fools laugh at a 22lr imo. Great comparison between these popular calibers!
.22 is vastly underestimated and very lethal ... not ideal for self defense but it’s definitely sufficient...
@@pabloescobar7802 they are also available in a bunch of different configurations, the rounds he used were "high velocity" 40grain copper plated lead @1255fps (prob less from pistol), you can get "hyper velocity" 40grains (like a cci stinger) which are around 1400-1500fps and then stuff like the CCI coppers which while alot lighter are also alot harder and are advertised as ~1800+fps, i think they would be a very interesting comparison.
I agree 100%
Haven't seen many people volunteer to take a round when they 'poo-poo' any of the smaller calibers. ;)
Yep, that Richard Ramirez, a.k.a the "Night Stalker", killed six of his victims using a 22 cal. revolver, and another three more while using a 25 acp pistol.
Good stuff!
I know .40 gets a lot of "hate", but, it is my favorite carry caliber...
I don't understand why .40 S&W gets so much hate, it's a very effective round to be honest. But haters are gonna hate. Heck, I love my Glock 22 almost as much as my Glock 20.
@@bdr32965 it gets hate because it was a compromise cartridge for people who could not decide between 9 mm and 45.
@@Valorius actually it isn't truly a compromise cartridge between 9mm and .45 ACP, it was a compromise of its bigger brother 10mm. The FBI wanted to switch to 10mm after the Miami Dade shootout in the mid 80's because they felt that 9mm and .38 Special wasn't effective at stopping a target, the only problem was that many of the agents could not handle the extra recoil of the 10mm. The idea was to cut down the case of the 10mm to give a bit better recoil control to make it easier to handle. In this day and age due to improvements in bullet technology 9mm can be a capable round, but still, .40 S&W can outperform 9mm in penetration and it does have a flatter trajectory than 9mm.
@@bdr32965 I am familiar with how the whole history of ammo and guns was altered by one freakish outlier shoot out.
If the feds wanted deep penetration and a controllable round they could've just adopted 45 ACP. But they wanted high capacity too. Boom....the 10mm then the weaker 40 S&W was born...as a compromise between 45 and 9mm.
@Freedom - These days they could just adopt the extreme defender lehigh bullet in any caliber and there you go...
I personally like the 9mm but the .40 and .45 results were very impressive.
I personally like the price of .22 lr
But in ammo carrying capacity and accuracy point of view 9mm and.30 is far better than that caliber's
I agree. I prefer 9. But the results do speak for themselves!
The 9mm using only 115gr that's not a good round that's a training Round..I use in my 9mms Buffalo bore 147gr +p hard cast and seismic 185gr Rounds huge difference..
@Davy - 115gr is higher velocity lol. The lighter the bullet is, the faster it will go with the same powder charge behind it...
I enjoy your caliber comparison videos more than other people’s. You cut through the bullshit and get straight to the point, showing us what the ammo can really do.
Awesome, thank you. Check out the caliber comparison playlist on the channel then 👍
Don't worry, some people will complain no matter what you do lol 40cal is king!
Oh I know it! (the complainers)
.45 is the King's King though. 😁👍🏼
The 40 and 9mils never disappoints
40 S&W for the win. I don't understand why everyone loves the 10mm but hates the 40. The 40 will out preform any 9mm made in the same sized gun so why not.
I don't know y either they almost identical rounds the 10 and 40
Most .40s&w loads are in the 400ft-lb energy range, up to a maximum of about 600ft-lbs. Very few 10mm is in the 400ft-lbs range (cheap target ammo), most are 500+ ft-lbs and up to nearly 800.
@@BuckeyeBallistics The people who are 9mm fans don't like the 40 because it's to powerful, hard to control, and is hard the firearm. They also start looking for the most powerful 9mm they can find as soon as the get home from the gun shop. The same people will also tell you they love 10mm but 40 suck, it's a bit nuts.
@Large Larry Yeah I've never understood the "short and wimpy" designation myself, considering .40s&w typically trumps both 9mm & .45acp on energy, a.k.a. power.
.40 S&W all day every day that's why I own 3 and I'm not done yet.
Nice impromptu real world experiment! Impressed that the 380 impacts were split between 22 lr and 9mm. Also the 40 a very impressive difference over the 9mm.
.40 S&W once again proving its capability. Stronger performance with only 2 less rounds per magazine compared to 9mm.
Hey off 40s dick
Great way to save ammo!😂
Big .40 fan myself. Nice demonstration of caliber differences.
Greetings from the UK.
I very much enjoyed this video, it moves along without any unnecessary chit chat before getting started. Thank you for posting a great series of tests.
Great test ! The 40 did the best in my opinion. But I was impressed with the 9mm.
Speaking from experience, a 22lr can do some damage for sure. I was unfortunately shot in the ankle twice and one hit my knee, took almost a month to fully recover. Ever since then I’ve had the utmost respect for 22lr for sure
I bet you stopped whatever you were doing right then and there, too.
Man you gotta think about the comparable damage if you were shot with a 9mm though
@toaster3822
Yes, but his point was that it didn't take a 9mm hit to get his attention right then and there.
@@Just1American1966of course not a gun is still a gun even a BB gun can do damage
@@nnightkingj
What?
Those were some great comparisons there bro.. Don't worry about missing here and there or about things not going quite right all the time. These things happen and we all understand completely. You did a great job in those comparisons. I came here to do some "shopping." I'll be buying a new carry gun soon and wanted to see what you had. After watching you and some other guys, so far, I'm sold on the .40 and you helped me make that choice. And for that I thank you. Keep pluggin' away bro.
Le 9 luger de 115 grain et 147 grain n'ont que des avantages plus léger plus de cartouches plus de pénétration un pouvoir d'arrêt excellent 147 grain flat nose etc etc heureusement que les européens vous ont tout appris citez moi une chose que vous ayez créée sans l'avoir au préalable volé
Love the 40 and respect for the others 👍🏻
I love this stuff! I'm not surprised by performance of the Ruger LCP 2 (380 ACP); I have one in 22LR and with it's iron/fixed sites it's all over the place (no discernable pattern at distance). But for a 64 yr old it's a great close-in carry gun for me.
Also it has a real short barrel, but small enough that it isn't a pain to carry and one can recover aim and reshoot alot faster than a larger caliber.
Havent met anyone yet who is volunteering to take 2 or 3 .22s point blank to test if its valid for self-defense...any gun is the best gun when you need somethin
Great comparisons
Pocket guns are easy to conceal; the 22 & 380.
I've been in the criminal justice field for over 40 years now.
Should you need to stop a threat the smaller 22 and 380 will do the job.
Watching the concrete effect of those rounds would preferably not KILL someone, but stop the threat.
In Court or to police who arrive... you shot to stop the threat of serious bodily harm and death to yourself and loved one.
Conceal Carry association has a site to sign up and have legal representation should you need to stop a threat.
Killing people is TV bullshit with Clint Eastwood and such.
COVER YOUR ASS (CYA)
should you need to use deadly force.
😊😊
.380 glock42 the best
Great video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. The .40 and .45 seemed to have substantially more impact (as expected). But it was interesting getting to see the results.
Emotional damage for .40 the haters.
Great video and great information… glad you use the 165gr .40 instead of the 180gr like others do.
Nice demonstration. Thanks for posting.
Man your shooting range is beautiful!! Lucky!
Love when .40 is used with 165s. It’s honestly what should be represented, it’s directly in the middle for caliber weight 135-180gr. 165s moving at 1100+ are proper handgun rounds
You can get 200gr from double tap 1100fps I get 1135fps
@@Edmondson_Avenue I haven’t looked much lately but I grabbed a box of 135s at 1400 and 155s at 1300. 200 @ 1135 is impressive, it’s not over pressure for standard.40?
Nice video! the grain of a bullet makes a big difference, I likes the set you have for shooting!
I have a Taurus .357 mag revolver, a Glock G19 (don't like it), a Remington 11-87 12 gauge, Century Arms AK, but my very favorite that will be with me till my last breath is my Colt 1911 .45 ACP series 70 competition ss.
I just simply LOVE the 1911 .45 ACP!
Especially this Colt. The 5" competition barrel sure seems to make me shoot better.
I didn’t see the block actually penetrated by the .45, just a deep cavity in the front. So, .40 wins, again, in all videos. .40 and 10mm win every time😎👍🏽
I shot some cinderblocks with a 500 like a month ago and wow its awesome. Great video keep up the good work
@Peter Angles got a few videos up shooting the 350 grain fmjs at blocks
Your content is great. I enjoy all of the pro 2nd
I personally have always had bad luck with Federal ammo, but have never had any problems with Remington ammo when using the regular bulk/non-special ammo. My Bersa Firestorm .380 shoots accurately with Remington 95gr and with Aguila ammo too. I use it for concealed carry because that gun is small enough to fit in my pocket if I am in a hurry to go somewhere and don't want to put on a holster while wearing shorts.
That’s why I carry 40 caliber for many years it is always impressive
Another vote for the 165gr .40S&W..!!! The G35 is an outstanding handgun.
I have a .22LR Marlin 60, a Sig C3 .45 1911, a 12 Gauge Winchester SXP, and a .308 Mossberg Patriot. I plan to get a 9mm, a .357, and a 5.56 AR next. I love my .45, even if others complain about it's weight. I still think it's a good round.
People kid about the 22 but I wouldn't want to be shot with one
I learned about 22 when that Simeon kid died from the he was ranked better than Jordan he got shot ina chest w a 22 and it came out his fucked his insides up he died from internal bleeding
Ask Ronald Reagan what he thinks of the .22lr cartridge.
40 is my overall favorite of these calibers. Also, kinda glad to see that you're LCP is also all over the place from beyond 10ft or so lol
Honestly, as I stated in the video, it had to of been the ammo. In my review video of the pistol with different ammo, it was much more accurate than that. That said, I have certainly shot more accurate .380's than the Max. But you can't beat that capacity and concealability which is why I bought it...
Damn glad I use 22lr,9mm and 380ACP! Great job 👏 love it
380 is pretty small and weak
@@Rhino5.0 but it will do the job when you need it
@@Rhino5.0 I guarantee you if you got shot with a .380 you would not find it small and weak.
You already know this but the 38&357 you can use the same revolver & even a lever action can do the same.
I’m an old man who likes the old style & I use them.
Thank you for your video
22LR and 380 are plenty powerful enough to be called man stoppers. But the 45 is amazing.
.40 s&w is the ideal cartridge caliber for full-size/duty semi-auto handguns for self-defense/preservation, but 180gr was always too heavy for the .40 s&w, great for the 10mm auto though! between 135gr minimum and 165gr maximum parameters is best, with 155gr/150gr bullet weight being ideal!
How is 180 too heavy? Isn't it dependant on the task at hand? Like I think 180 grain or higher would be better as a loading for when your in the woods for bears/exc. What do you think?
@@skysthelimit6495 you have a point, but i am focused on self-defense in civilization against humans and light to medium barriers, and also the internal ballistics and wear/tear and recoil also to a degree, especially scaled up 9mm handguns instead of handguns built for or around the .40 s&w, and also external ballistics
@@ethanmac639 Ok because I just think .40 cals biggest advantage is being able to get grain weights of 60 grains all the way to 200 grains! I know 60 grains sounds insane but yeah I seen them at sportsman 60 grains advertised at 2000fps in a jhp. Basically a completely hollowed out bullet more jacket than lead/brass!
@@ethanmac639 btw the company making the 50 grains (I think it was 50 but I know it was at least between 50 and 60 grains no more) 40 call at 2000fps is Civil Defense. They make those kinda hyper sonic light weight loads for 9mm exc. But that doesn't change the wide variety of grain weight options of the 40!
@@ethanmac639 ok sorry to bomb you with comments! 🤣 The 40S&W Civil Defense was 60 grains at 2000 fps!
Kinda raises the question of what "cover" is! Probably best not to need it or at least don't stay stationary!
Great Shot young fella
Merci et bravo. Vraiment impressionnant. Cordialement.
.40 S&W for the win 🥇!! Specifically 165gr! It imparts more energy than .45 ACP with almost the same ammo as the 9mm.
Energy is not a good metric for cartridge effectiveness. But penetration, expansion, momentum, all in concert, are a beautiful orchestra.
@@vlogfriendsutopia 🤔Energy definitely makes a big difference … What’s the difference between 38 and .357 ? Energy. The energy is what dictates terminal ballistics or the penetration, expansion, etc; especially when you start going to micro-sized pistols, or having to shoot at range. I haven’t seen a single .40 cartridge doesn’t penetrate at least 11+” while giving almost 100ft-lbs more energy on target than the similar (light or heavy for caliber) weight 9mm, and while retaining that energy more at all ranges.
@@TooManyChoices1 Energy actually isn't the best metric for measuring a cartridge's effectiveness. In fact, unless velocity supercedes 2,200 FPS, wherein you cause plastic deformation, you're not going to get any sort of extra damage from that energy in tissue, as the body is very elastic. In fact, what dictates wound channel is projectile diameter and penetration depth. A .45 caliber projectile that punches clean through a target will always create a bigger hole than a .357 caliber projectile that passes clean through, regardless of energy, assuming neither projectile is faster than 2,200 FPS. Now, where I have seen that energy makes a difference is bone. Lower energy projectiles tend to poke a caliber sized hole in bones, whereas higher energy ones can break or even shatter bones.
But to answer your question of 38 Special vs 357 Magnum, the typical 38 Special loads tend to sit between 200-350 foot pounds of energy, but I have seen them up to 450. 357 Magnum tends to sit between 550-800 foot pounds of energy, so you can see there's quite a difference.
My personal preferences for a round are as follows; expands to at least 0.71 inches, penetrates at least 12 inches consistently in ballistics gel, and the not so important following factors, but factors that I personally like to see, are that it starts at least as a .40 caliber projectile, so that even if it doesn't expand, it still leaves a reasonable hole, and at least 500 foot pounds of energy, as that's where I've seen bones start to shatter. If a round has the first two requirements of penetration depth and expansion, that's a good round in my book. But if I can have the other two, I'll gladly take them.
I agree. The .40 is the winner here. And, no. There's no place to excuses such as " grains" ( you can't pick up 165 grains 22LR ammo or 220 grains .380 ammo for instance); barrel length ( the 45 usually has longer barrels than .380 for example), type of points ( there's no .40 high speed shape point as it does exist for 9 mm)...
@@vlogfriendsutopia “And at least 500ft-lbs of energy”, so energy matter to you too then 😅! I made a video talking about how I also prefer rinds that start with a .4 and at least 400ft-lbs (preferably closer to 450+) for my carry guns. Ft-lbs matter more than people think, and your criteria seems to indicate you agree. I also agree that bone penetration and ability to do work on the other side is the reason I prefer more energy in my carry rounds.
I painted the front sight on my LCPII with a white stripe, helped aiming considerably. But the short barrel limits velocity and sight radius makes them harder to shoot at distance. My Bersa Thunder regularly clocks the same ammo at 100 FPS faster than the LCP II
I like the Thunders, used to have one.
My Bersa 380 cc will splode some red jello !
@@ericschneider8524 The Bersa 380 has enough extra barrel length to get those light bullets to do their magic, lol. One of the most accurate pistols I have.
I’m a Tried & True M1911 .45ACP Bubba myself… I do have a .22LR Pistol for training & for my wife & teen son to learn/practice with. I would NEVER laugh at a .22LR… a .22LR can do some damage too.
I use the exact same ammo. lol. thanks for this presentation. it was fun
I noticed the .40 hit the top of the cinderblock on the first shot and created two cracks. The second round blew the block apart at the cracks. I would like to see that again on a new block. Love the .40 BTW
Yeah I couldn't see that from behind the trigger, but that is part of the reason I had the gopro down there. But the fact that the glancing shot cracked the block, that tells me a single shot would have the power to penetrate the first layer like the .45 did...
I've shot cinder blocks with .45acp fmj's, they get through the first layer and mushroom out quite a bit.
Sounds reasonable
Cinder blocks are lighter and weaker than concrete blocks.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Technically they flatten out, but they are much larger than the original diameter.
@@OddTimeMan I've done a lot of masonry inspections and I've never seen "concrete" used in blocks, only cement, water and sand.
@Peter Angles Concrete has aggregate (rocks) in it. CMU's (Concrete masonry units) cinder blocks don't.
It's significant that many of these tests omit the 10mm. When I shot blocks with my S&W 1006, they consistently shattered, front wall and back, on the first shot.
You would correctly expect the larger calibers to be more devastating, but I still cannot get over what a leap there is from the .380 up to the 9mm. I carry a .380 and think it's adequate, but it's certainly not a 9mm, in spite of the very small difference in case size and bullet weight. The .380 lingers down there with the .22, not up there with the 9mm. Nice shooting.
Yeah 9mm is nearly double the energy/power of .380, but the same is true for .380 compared to .22lr from a pistol. There was a huge difference between .22lr and .380 in my watermelon video that I posted...
@@BuckeyeBallistics Thanks for the response. This really illustrates the differences in the downrange effect. Thanks again.
@@jbj27406
Look into Buffalo Bore or Underwood ammo for your 380 self defense rounds. They are both +P loaded, and it’s impressive compared to off the shelf ammo. I keep my .380 loaded with Buffalo Bore, and I alternate between the hollow points and the 100 gr hard casts ammo. There’s a few videos on TH-cam regarding those hard casts.
They are very proud of their ammo, so don’t get sticker shock when you see the prices on their website. It’s worth it though. It’s excellent ammo, and it really wakes the .380 up.
This ammo is for carrying only. I shot the ammo through my Springfield 911 to check for cycling and feeding reliability. I didn’t have any issues. So I use this stuff for self defense ammo only. It’s too expensive for taking it to the range, plus, it’s hot.
I like the size of my .380 pistol, so that’s why it gets the nod over everything else for my EDC. With the Buffalo Bore ammo, I don’t feel under powered at all.
@@jimedick9496 Thanks for the tip. I'm loaded with +P hollow points at this point, but the Buffalo +P hollow points and hard cast look very interesting. Thanks again.
Guys I have a bunch of .380 gel tests on the channel and have another posting Monday (and more comming). I have already tested *some* Buffalo Bore and Underwood...
It ain’t the ammo. It’s your grip and squeeze guaranteed. Love the .45. My favorite EDC.
No it's not, garunteed...
Thats what i saw too, he does not have thumbs as high as should , then has his right thumb withing palm of left hand,so any variance in different palm grip will affect accuracy,especially further he gets out, i use to do that when first started shooting pistol,but once learned how to properly hold it then accuracy is 10 times better
Or you guys could go watch 100 videos of me shooting pistols accurately including 100 yards on the channel, but instead you speculate. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself...
@@BuckeyeBallistics I reload bullets, and one day I bought some Winchester 38 specials. Cheapest stuff I could find, lead cast. Those bullets seemed they had a 12” spread at 15 yards. It’s the cheap powder that is used, coupled with the twist rate of the gun and bullet weight.
@Crazed 357 - These guys that say it's me haven't watched me shoot very long lol. I shoot 9mm .45 etc 100 yards accurately, proven on the channel in multiple videos. If it was me then I wouldn't even have a chance at ringing steel at 100 yards over and over...
good content, no filler 👍
I shot in a local pistol competition years ago where we shot 5 bowling pins off a table for the fastest time. As many shits as you wanted/n you needed, but the pins just didn’t have to go down, they had to be cleared/removed from the table.
I shot different runs - with my 9mm and with a 45. I was amazed at how much more authoritatively the 45 cleared the pubs than did the 9. The 45 would one shot clear a pin where the 9 might knock it down but require a second shot to clear the pin. I used my Smith 29 in the revolver category, where I got a two fer (hit a bowling pin that flew sideways with enough energy to also knock another pin from the table).
I love my 9’s, but tough to beat power and energy.
When I shoot the steel targets at my local range's pistol bays, you can clearly see that .45 knocks them down with more authority than 9mm. However, standard 9mm 124gr ball ammo actually has slightly more energy/power than standard .45 230gr ball ammo (364ft-lb energy vs 356), but that heavier slug of the .45 carries it's momentum better after impact. That said, I have noticed that .40s&w with a 180gr projectile does an ever better job of knocking the steel down than .45 does, thanks to it's higher velocity and still heavier than 9mm projectile. It also has more energy/power than the other two...
.40 is a beast
Only thing keeping me from carrying a 22lr is my worry that I might be chased down by robots or Men in Black with armor if they come to take me out for knowing too much or something😂 Need those robot penetrating rounds… Im serious too, never know…
You have used the Scientific Method better than anyone else I've seen on the Internet. You're a rocket scientist in the making. I hope you get the degrees. Starting pay about $55k rising to about $155k at age 55.
The .40 S&W is a beast! Way more powerful than a .45 ACP, every ballistic chart shows that. But I know guys who swear by the .45.
"Bigger hole" they say...
Not really, 45acp on average 375 ft/lbs & 40s&w 400 ft/lbs on average.
Cool video. I agree, 9mm115 gr FMJ probably won't be all that much different than 124 gr FMJ. The big surprise for me was the 380. I thought it would penetrate better than it did. Although the round used may be lightly loaded? Definetly an accuracy issue with that load in that gun. It's also hard to tell just how close in structural integrity each block is to the next as I'm sure the manufacturer is less concerned with a bullet impact test and more concerned with weight load. I like the extra safety equipment and the warning. It's important to stay safe.
I too was surprised that it didn't seem to do much more than the .22lr...
@@BuckeyeBallistics That's what I thought too. All I can figure is maybe they're slower than normal speed . I would have thought more than double the bullet weight would make a bigger dent but then again maybe not. Maybe that's all we get with 380 95gr FMJ
I looked them up and it says only 980fps, so it's probably less than that from my little LCP. From a pistol, the .22lr I used would be in the 900fps range as well. The .380 definately still has more power/energy, so it must have something to do with the larger surface area.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Cool. Agreed. Maybe it does have something to do with diameter.
Ocassionally the velocity is rated higher than what can be achieved even in a longer barrel. A chronagraph will tell the true velocity.
I bet this was a fun little test, The smith & wesson 40 was impressive.
I recently won a M&P 40 at a gun raffle and have yet to bring it to the range.
Nice to know people actually win those
Taking cover behind a plastic table.... Earned my sub LOL
one time when i was around 17 or so i went shooting with my dad(investigator) and my dads cop friend, i shot a cinder block with a 380 and hit it every time putting little dimples on the surface, my dads friend smirks, grabs TWO 1911s, and dual wield mag dumps them and practically disintegrated the cinder block, pretty badass
😅
I've seen several of these vs blocks videos. Never Fails. .40 Kicks @$$.
What did I gather? 22lr > 380 because being able to hit what you’re aiming at is far more important than anything else. What would be really awesome is 22WMR from a Walther WMP to see how that does.
James Bond used a 380.
The 380 which was used has poor sights, a extremely short barrel and a mediocre trigger. The 22lr that was used was basically a full-sized gun. The small guns are harder for people to notice if you carry, but are also harder to hit with. I don't think the inaccuracy was the round, I think it was the shooter. It is hard to be consistent with those pocketguns.
Take one of each to the range yourself. The 22lr is a good practice round since the cost per round is so low. But, a half decent 380 is better at protecting yourself. I've tried a SW bodyguard and a browning 380-1911. The trigger on the SW is very poor. The Browning is a delight to use, but is slightly larger. Even a trigger job on the SW did not make it close to as easy to use as the Browning, but it did improve accuracy a fair bit. But, the SW is extremely small and does not print. And while the browning is much better, it still won't be as good for nightstand use as a 45/1911.
A 22lr is not > than a 380. A big gun is > than a little one (when it comes to accuracy).
The two 380's I referenced:
www.handgunhero.com/compare/smith-wesson-m-p-bodyguard-380-vs-browning-1911-380-black-label-pro-compact
James Bond is a fictonal character lol
@@BuckeyeBallistics yes but a cool one. Larger 380's were used by many actual police, military, etc. Not my favorite caliber, but certainly one capable of good accuracy and damage to the bad guy. And, better than a 22lr, which was my point.
@@bjornlovoll8972 your pocket gun argument may hold water for a novice shooter. For a seasoned shooter not so much. With my NAA Black Widow at 10 yards two hands unsupported I can drop all 5 in an area the size of my hand. I'm sure shooting supprted I could probably tighten that up a little. So I can't fault the shooter on this but either the ammo or gun seeing as how he was able to properly place shots with every other pistol.
@@rjakiel73
I good quality .380 pistol shots just as accurate as the .22LR. My Springfield 911 is very accurate, and I can keep my sights on target for rapid fire.
With that said, I wouldn’t snub my nose at any of those two cartridges.
I own both for self defense, but mine serve a different purpose. I love both my .22 revolver and pistol. The revolver is more of my brush gun while I’m in the desert. Snake shot in .22LR works terrific.
My only issue with the .22, especially with the pistol, is failure to ignite the rim fire primer. With my .380 acp, I never have that problem. Plus, the .380 +p loads packs a bigger punch.
Between the two, I’m grabbing the .380 over my .22LR. I still trust my life with using the .22 though, but I’m apprehensive due to the failure to fire that seems to sneak up every so often.
I've used several varieties of .380 ammo. The worst (accuracy wise) was armscore fmj which hit extremely low even at seven yards. The best have been Hornady American Gunner (xtps) or my own handloads. The factory Hornady stuff has been very accurate in my guns (expensive, though).
My Bersa Thunder works extremely well with Winchester white box. Never jams and very accurate
@@brianfitzpatrick1183 I've also used WWB. It was ammo. Didn't jam, was reasonably accurate, no hangfires.
Love the TAURUS TX22 and the g3 taurus good quality reliable guns
And thats why i like the 40s&w so munch for carry. Put also like a good 380 for a small gun.
Hey glad to see you around again
Yes, I carry 40 s&w in Kimber Custom Shop 3” CDP2, 9mm Walter P5 124 gr MagTech Soft point, and rarely Kimber SS Gold Match 2 with full house hand loads of 200 gr Gold Dot. Since the MagTech is a super load in the Walter, I conceal carry it by far the most. P-5 retains the military spec P38 feed ramp and refuses to feed hollow points, must have round nose form as with military ball ammo…hence the MagTech 124 gr RN soft point.
The 22 shot placement was very impressive..so was the effect..great test ,the table and crash helmet..😂
Don't carry the 380 too inaccurate .thanks for making the video
.380 Glock42 way more accurate
@jose - P238 😉
I think 380 is just like that mine sucks with some ammo but is dead accurate with others
Are you actually adjusting your point of aim on the 380 based on the point impact of the .22lr from a different gun??
Excellent job.
.40S&W did it with only one shot
This testing is important concerning the need to shoot block heads.
Thank you for the effort. I’ll stay with my 9mm Beretta 17+1
Nobody ever said you had to change..I'll stick with my glock26 gen 3..I can go from my flush 10 round all the way up to my 100 round drum filled with fmjs...my 8 shot 1911 is my bedside gun..loaded with Winchester white box 230gr fmj.
Fun 👍 I'll stick with the 1911 45 ACP. I think you would have had a much bigger hole if you'd been using some kind of expanding bullet I'm surprised it didn't go through the back side. Be interesting to see what a 357 Magnum or a 44 Magnum would do or even an old school 45 Colt. Thank you 👍
I used fmj because I was trying to get through both sides. Hoping to do a revolver version eventually when I can afford to buy them all...
@@BuckeyeBallistics I would have thought a fmj 230 45 ACP would have passed through both sides I guess not. I think all of the magnum revolves will. Good luck with the collection 🤠 My first will be the S&W model 19 combat Magnum 357/38
45 ACP doesn't have the highest velocity but it has heavy knockdown power and is more likely to stay inside the attacker and do more damage than a lighter caliber with higher FPS that penetrates better and does a cleaner through & through.
40 for the win…..more damage
Why is it that I have seen videos upon videos of caliber comparisons but I still enjoy watching
It's like watching your favorite movie over and over lol
good vid i have been getting into my 45 again
The .380 didn’t hit consistently, but all were deadly !!!
Interesting results. The 40 & 45 certainly appear to hit a good bit harder than 9mm. Fun stuff for sure.
On cinder blocks for sure. I'm assuming the exta weight is what carries them through...
@@BuckeyeBallistics or, it could be the 5 inch barrels.
True. Allthough in my gel testing, I will say that the heavier bullets (.40 &.45) tend to penetrate further, even with fmj. It's like trying to stop a car compared to a truck (with a barrier)- even if the car is going a little faster, it's still harder to stop the heavier truck...
@@BuckeyeBallistics that's because heavier bullets in a given cartridge have a higher sectional density. As I mentioned in the watermelon video, when comparing different cartridges, you need to match sectional densities. This is easy to do by Googling "handgun sectional density chart."
I was speaking to a retired police office who had been in more than one shootout. After unloading a 9mm into a guy without stopping him, he would only carry a 45 afterwards.
Can't wait for the revs 😍
Revs?
@@BuckeyeBallistics revolver
Ahhh ok, gotcha.
@@BuckeyeBallistics keep it up👍👍
Good aim. you hit the same spot 6 times a row.
9 short is a good round, it gets a lot of crap but +P in my P365 and I feels safe, I had an LCP and its a piece of sh*t. I carry 9 when it gets cold out. But most of the year 9 short is plenty. Im not planning on shooting concrete blocks. But that 40 my goodness, sure is a good round isnt it. That’ll knock your head clean off. I never shot one of those.
That 22 is accurate as hell
100 yards: th-cam.com/users/shortsN1RDJSWpVO0?feature=share
I knew right away the 40s&w & 45acp would pass through the first wall.
Your 40 ammo is optimized at that Bullet wt for mnear ax ft-lbs and should therefore have heaviest impact on target. A 180 would not have done as well. The 45ACP with a 200 grain LaserCast set at max loading would have performed better than the 230gr FMJ.
First people complained when I used the 180gr saying it wasn't fair, now you're saying 165gr isn't. Lol, I give up...
@@BuckeyeBallistics I’m a long term (55 years ) handloader who has worked as many performance angles for over 50 personally owned firearms that I could afford. What can I say? I’ve used many manuals, ballistic data charts, chronographs, and test media. I make my own 30 cal projectiles with the Corbin dies & press, many designs jacketed (and bonded core) rebated boat tail spritzers to flat base flat nose or hollow points from 140 gr thru 210 gr. Plus I’ve got a 1971 BS in Science as my general tune-up for frustrations found in the physical world.
Nice work! Thanks for bringing us all along! Good Video! 🤠👮🏻♂️🐉🇺🇸👍👋👻🍀🌚😉. B9USA Sr.
Ahh yes, the issue is clear to me, you weren't using a G21 on your last attempt. Great series bro, just messing around, dig the content dude.
Good shooting! Nice grouping
Great way to cut blocks for home construction
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True, but I think a masonry saw blade is still a cheaper alternative for cutting blocks LOL
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Very impressed with the .22LR , it did some damage from pretty far away. Imagine from 7 yds away . 👍
Not a good round for self defense at all.
@@SoWavvyy depending on if you know what you’re doing
nice video, keep them coming.
In order of success it looks like 40, 45, 9, 22 then 380 was the least effective (if you can't hit the target it is what it is.) The tx22 was on point
Nice video ! What do you say about a colt 1911 45 ACP ? Will buy one ! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
Colt makes nice 1911's...
I buy every 1911 I can get love them.
@@USMC-1911 which one is the best ?
@@xZerbersteRx Wilson combat makes great 1911s. They are expensive though.
Will the .40 haters stand up please?
Love your content
What brand and model of guns were you using? Really good real world test.
Why didn't you use the 230 gr .22 LR to be fair? lol. 165 gr .40 is good stuff.
Lol you know how it is in the comments section brother.
Great stuff buddy i love it !!!!!
Different rounds, brands, barrel lengths, different guns. It’s not really comparable but I still enjoyed the video verrrrry much
I disagree. You shot what was common for each caliber in a common gun for each caliber. Nobody carries a 4 or 5 inch .380. That wouldn’t be realistic. Thank you for your test. It is what I was searching for. GOD Bless!!!!!
Love that CZ and HK!!
Good shooting and if that is your property that is dope! So green and open. I live in AZ amd its WAY different even though its Northen AZ.
They say the .40 is dead but for a dead round it performed very well and if the "dead" 357 Sig had been tested it would likely outperformed all of them. Seems the dead rounds are very much still alive and doing well.
Being a "dead round" is only about how popular it is, not how effective it is. The .38 super is dead but is pretty hard hitting round. I never liked the .40 as it recoils a bit hard due to high chamber pressures. I just prefer the good old .45ACP.
@@ms.annthrope415 The 9mm luger and .40 have the same SAAMI pressures. The snappy recoil is attributed to the heavier bullet weight. Shoot a 135gr .40 vs a 124gr NATO round and the recoil is very close to one another.