Horikoshi is know for his insane amount of foreshadowing. This season the random background villains who attacked Midnight showed up again fifty chapters later in the manga, and you understand why they were siding with Machia.
@@celinho68 The doctor showing up in the first episode as Deku's pediatrician, implying Midoriya really had a quirk but it was stolen from him? The fact we still don't know anything about Deku's father beyond his fire quirk (a very common one, like Dabi just said in this episode)? Ashido inspiring Kirishima to become a hero by facing Machia in highschool?
@@TheZapan99Deku didn’t have a quirk. That’s not what the doctor was doing. Somebody would’ve caught on that a bunch of kids just went to this doctor and somehow all of them didn’t have quirks? Especially when being quirkless isn’t that common? The doctor DUPLICATES quirks, he says it in the show. That’s why his position was such a clever idea. Being in the medical field and coming across people with quirks allowed him access to duplicating the quirks.
@@Matty13808 You've got it wrong. The doctor's quirk is Life Force, it slows down his aging process. At some point in the past, AFO took the doctor's original quirk to extend his own life, leaving him with only a duplicate. The ability to duplicate quirks for his research is listed under genius intellect, it is not a quirk. Being the chairman of Jaku hospital, the doctor had access to dead patients (it's implied he euthanized some of them) for his Nomu creation program. There is nothing to confirm or deny he stole Deku's potential quirk beyond his appearance as his pediatrician, it is just a fan theory at this point. Source : MHA wiki, Kyudai Garaki.
And the desperation of that final attack for the dub VA is exceptional. Don’t get me wrong I loved the sub’s performance a lot this ep, but the prominence burn scene felt a little too casual and I much prefer the demented sound you get in the dub.
@@Phasmania Prominence Burn sounded a lot better in sub when Endeavor did it at the end of season 4 as well. Japanese VA's seem to have mastered emotional yelling to a degree english VA's just can't match.
@@robertcampbell8070 You might have misread my comment but I’m trying to say I preferred the English dub’s “flashfire fist prominence…” that Dabi did, and I actually think the dub also went harder on the S4 finale prominence burn too. I really do love both, but Patrick Seitz is just insanely good imo. Obviously just my opinion here tho
@@Phasmania Yes, I'm disagreeing lol. I don't think ultra emotional moments pack nearly the punch in dub as in sub. The S4 Prominence Burn was FAR worse in dub IMO. Personal opinion of course. Great job here, but I'd take the japanese VA any day, personally.
You are kidding me, the dub version is bad and i watch dub versions for many animes. This case is bad asf, this VA for dabi is so out of place, jesus. For me, at least, is ruined the scene.
Props to you Normies for not having this reveal spoiled for you. The Dabi is Touya prediction has been popular with the fandom for years now, even after it happened in the manga
Nobody's mentioned this but give it up to Endeavors dub VA when he said "I believed you were alive" it really captured the panic and despair Endeavor was in seeing his son who he thought was dead charge straight for him
You guys missed the point. Endeavor didn't try to fix his family issues because he was finally #1. He tried to fix his family issues because he became #1 and realized how much of his life he had wasted pursuing something so meaningless. He saw how it didn't change anything and he felt remorseful for everything he did in his pursuit
@Funt Nugget it's not at all the same thing. Nor is it semantics. When this is part of the narrative within the story. Both implied and stated by the character.
@@FuntNuggetThe nuance is important here. It's not that Endeavor got his goal and changed for the better, it's that reaching the top by default and realizing not only how empty he was in doing so, but also realizing the weight All Might carried as a pillar of society caused him to look inward. Hell, two episodes back All Might outright says it: Endeavor had to focus on hindsight to see his flaws. You're focusing on the catalyst to his change and thus missing the forest for the trees.
Definitely lol. "I'm Touya Todoroki. Oh? Don't believe me? Here's the test results to prove it!" Maybe it's a little weird, but something about the whole thing with the DNA test struck me as kind of funny.
@@whitneybennett4857It's a relatively mundane thing in a huge pivot point in the story. I think the relative simplicity is what gives it some comedic edge
Best Jeanist doesn't just control Denim, he controls FIBERS. He has some OP abilities-it probably can't work on organic life, since proteins are fibers. But those chains that dropped down with him are probably made out of Carbon Nanotubes. OP.
Don't they explain that in those powers explanation things. People downplay him and I always thought his powers were good. He just uses his denim cause why not. People hate those power showcases and flash backs but forget how they are useful outside bingeing.
Even though we sorta knew, the revelation is executed amazingly. The way Dabi just casually greets them to revealing the secret and backstory to straight out chewing out Endavor with a reason you suck speech to straight out declaring his gonna send him to h###, it was epic, shocking, and somewhat funny. There’s no way Endavor is gonna recover after this. 😁It moments like this is why MHA is one of the best manga/anime’s in recent years.
It was always in the back of my head since season 3 so the reveal didn’t catch me off guard at all. I’m kinda surprised it surprised so many other people tho
@@ShervierJ Same here it was the eyes that gave it away for me and the way he just taunted Todoroki. I asked my friend who reads the manga if they were related and he gave me the conformation 😅😅. Season 3 kinda made it obvious
My hero is good, but if you think it's one of the beat in recent years, you gotta broaden your horizons when it comes to anime and manga. Plenty of things have done what my hero bas done, some better, some worse
@@ShervierJ I always felt that the effectiveness of the reveal was more so how Touya revels in utterly destroying the hope of a return to the status quo. The man near-singlehandedly dealt a mortal wound to hero society and owns the moment. Enji losing it to a panic attack and Shouto's desperate pleas to get his father back in the fight also help sell the emotional impact. Tl;dr, I enjoy the reveal for the emotional impact rather than the fact that it is a narrative "twist" on paper
Fun Fact: Rana accidentally predicted the "Dabi is a Todoroki" thing waaayyyy back in their season 3 episode 7 reaction, around the 5:07 mark Edit: Another fun fact, the first time we see Dabi/Toya he is in front of a hair salon
Toga’s quirk makes her want to drink ppl’s blood which isn’t an excuse for her actions but you can also sympathize with how she was ostracized by her family and society and ended up running away at a young age and joined up with the only ppl that accepted her for who she was.
@Cosmic Lionheart It does exist they’ve literally said multiple times that kids receive quirk counselling when they first develop their quirks. Again it’s a case of people falling through the cracks
@@TheJjcczz In particular, Toga's therapist wasn't qualified to treat her and implicitly she wasn't ever given another therapist to try out any other method than *repression.* A tragic figure to be sure
@Cosmic Lionheart i agree,i mean isnt the reason enji didnt train touya is because he was worried that touya couldnt handle the flames and that touya might burn himself (which happened) and did the anime state it yet that rei was actually the one who wanted more kids and not enji
@Mega [MegaSamX10] dont get me wrong,enji still abusive and toxic as shit but like im only pointing out that enji genuinely worried abt his son(touya) and he atleast didnt force rei to give birth to more children
@@sweetnumb fans rejoicing. Plus it happened on Nov 5th 2020, so it was just another thing happening that day that was making people go insane. Dabi/Touya trending over the US elections just made everything more surreal Edit: for perspective, this was a 5 or 6 year long fan theory that was confirmed. Yeah it was obvious, but having it confirmed in such a satisfying way is what made it so great
20:52 We literally see the scenes where Endeavor learns how All Might really is and their conversation about what it means to be number one. Marketa makes it sounds like he started changing out of selfish gain and not a shift in mindset. 😅
Heres the thing about Dabi, Endeavor is by all technicality no different than a cop who beats his wife. Its a real world statistic that police are more likely to be domestic abusers. Its not the fact that he is not doing his hero job effectively, its the fact that if we put Overhaul( who everyone agreed did monstrous things to Eri) in Endeavor place they should be treated the same. Why i don't agree that Dabi is being manipulative, he is just putting everyone on blast at the same time. And Hero society is corrupt for trying bury information from the public just because it damages hero work as a whole. If a EMS in your city was abusing his family you would want him locked up. Even if he has an amazing rescue record.
@@anusaukko6792 So they should essentially be held to an even higher standard. So you agree with me I don't actually think Endeavor should be fired and only his family can press chargers. But the public should be aware that heroes are willing to bury wrong doings, whether it's for the greater good or not.
@@ljeans531 You're not wrong but you're not right either. The manga covers all of this. The anime just hasn't caught up yet. But they delve into this specific issue you're bringing up.
The villains pulled a "So much for the tolerant ______" after doing vile crap and seeing the other side strike back with some force. It's akin to the bully mad cause the picked on kid kicked his face in when given the chance and otherwise doesn't. It's silly. But akin to what rana said. When a president needs to be squeaky clean or their called out as bad, like obama, vs someone who's like yeah i grab the ___ssy, so what move on im doing some sketch over here too...that's old $h*t, and people are like yeah this guy did so much i don't care and i support him because he doesn't care...like biases in all society exist. A society functioning on just heroes and villains, so much was bound to break under scrutiny. Hard to be absolute and perfect. It's why the symbol of peace mattered so much...he never failed in the people's eye and always keeps a smile but had to by being OP in society making villains try to up the ante, like balancing the force lol.
12:42 Actually, that kid is the “Look at him!” kid from the end of Season 4 who was hyping up Endeavor when he & Hawks were fighting the Nomu Dabi sent to them.
Yeah, I love how Dabi's just like "Look at this 'hero' stab a guy in the back!" when they had to show a freeze frame because they had to edit out all the blue fire that was burning Hawks XDDD Also, pretty sure Best Jeanist is using carbon fiber cables to restrain Machia and the others.
I was spoiled about this last year. Tbh what Dabi said about fire quirks being common is why I didn’t see it coming. I didn’t expect him to release it to the public the way he did, that was crazy
I had the Dabi reveal spoiled for me, which was totally gutting when I saw how they did it as such a massive thing. It was great to see your reactions as people that were totally unspoiled, so thanks guys Also, I thought they did a good job of explaining that Endavour didn't assume Dabi was dead. The fire crew told Endevour that he was probably dead, and that his bones had burnt to ash, but endevour refused to believe it and kept looking for him, only accepting it after they couldn't find any further trace of him
Dabi's Prominence Burn would have turned Shoto and Endeavor into Ash 100% Edit.: Well Dabi would have also turned into Ash but I dont think he cares about this.
Shoto would've had a chance to survive if he put up an ice wall as it would have formed both a protective barrier and launched him farther away from Dabi.
21:36 That's such a disingenuous take from Marketa. Because of the way the story is told, we've constantly had access to Endeavor's internal monologue and thought process from the moment he took center stage back in season 4, so we know for a fact that his desire to better himself comes from a place a sincerity, and we've seen exactly what was it that made him want to change.
To be fair, she got cut off and didnt get to explain it. She also doesnt like him much like many people for that flash back, it clouded judgement. I can see a woman having a bias against a character that beat his wife. :( Not saying she's right or wrong just trying to see her point. I just take it for a story and move on.
yesh Marketa does this all the time in MHA, chainsaw man, Code geass etc.. she is first to condemned and ignore anything good if the person does one bad thing in their life or even try to change their life(according to her its not sincere)
Cuz before he became number 1, He was obsessed to get the title, hurting everyone in his way. Now that he got it, Not only he realized the title is pretty meaningless, He now has no choice but to look back at all the terrible things he did to get it and wants to make amends. Also that talk with all might helped realize what it truly means to be Number 1@@quantumwitcher9376
The thing about 3rd party facts is that there isn't really a 3rd party everyone in the Dabi situation would be biased in the view so pretty much theirs Dabis side and endeavors and Dabi got his story out first so damage has already been done.
20:52 *Manga Reader Opinion* When All Might retired, Endeavor was the next strongest hero to replace him as number one. With that being plainly obvious to everyone, peoples faith with Endeavor as the number one was shaken knowing his personality and how he differs from All Might. Hence, he wanted to ask All Might what it meant to be a symbol of peace and he told him to look at what he wanted to protect. This, coupled with Suraj point of how he became number one led to self reflection on his actions. Honestly characters like Endeavor and Bakugo are the best parts of this series just seeing how they start and where they end up
Endeavor earned his second spot by putting in the work. Despite never beating All Might in the roster (most likely because of the popularity poll) it was said in one of the earlier episodes of the show that he had the highest rating in villain take downs which means higher than All Might’s. He got the job done. Was he an absolutely terrible father and in which made him a terrible person(at the time)?? Absolutely, however, that did NOT and tbh SHOULD NOT diminish the lives he’s saved and the villains he’s stopped. Most of the Top 10 heroes are in there from popularity. Heroes like BJ and that Wash hero don’t have the power level to take down so many top dog villains BUT they’re good with people and get a huge boost from the popularity poll. Endeavor made second being one of the most fearful and arrogant and rude and not very liked heroes out there, he was not carried by the popularity poll, he simply got the job done better than anyone else and made second place then first when All Might stepped down.
He became number 1 because he was the only hero actively trying to be better than All Might. That level of effort, in return, made him more qualified than anyone else.
So, a couple things. Endeavor did love his wife, as we've seen hints to that, but he did have kids with her for the purposes of quirks, but also they have said it's not all that uncommon for quirk marriages to happen in that world.
its nice to see ppl actually surprised at the dabi reveal lol, i started interacting with the fandom just before season 3 came out and the dabi is a todoroki theory was already gaining popularity haha
Idk if anyone else noticed this. But when Dabi was heating up and falling towards Endeavor powering up his attack. He was burning so Hot, That he was melting the ice that shoto put on him, to keep him cooled down.
It's really great watching you all present... and reacting to MHA... If you liked this episode, remember, there are still a couple of episodes left before the end of the arc...
This arc has had its ups and downs, but I still looked forward to seeing how the anime would adapt Dabi's Dance from the manga, and it did not disappoint. Dabi's voice actor went absolutely ham this episode.
Poor endeavor. He finally sees the error of his ways and starts being better and it blows up in his face. I guess it’s true that this is a disaster of his own making, it just sucks that it happened right when he started being better.
True but this will also help in his redemption, I've seen men change over time even when things blow up in their faces. He is getting what he deserves but this is honestly to much for one person. Dabi is the true piece of shit
Killing a villain is still illegal in this world. That's why there's so many rules with becoming a hero. Why the students go through so many training arcs.
I think you're ignoring the reason WHY he became the way he did. It was because of his obsession with all might. He didn't want to become a better person because he's now the number one hero. He wants to become a better person because the thing that he was chasing that created his mindset is now gone so he can actually think about what he was doing instead of having tunnel vision. It was about never being good enough
My sub watching ass just stood up and applauded for such an amazing dubbed episode👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Dabis VA did amazing, sounds like he could use something to drink
Chris's criticism of the villains is pretty funny in Dabi's case because Dabi is pretty self aware about what he's doing he just doesn't really give a fuck lol
Dabi being Endeavor's son was as much surprising to me as the 4th Hokage was Naruto's dad. When the entire couch was screaming I thought they did that out of sarcasm. Can't believe they didn't see that coming.
I predicted the 4th being Naruto's dad in the first 2 episodes because of the picture of Minato they had on the wall. I still don't understand how people don't notice that while watching.
Yea, I get what you're saying about heroes and villains. I think the reason these villains get defended so much is because so many of them are direct victims/results of things heroes did. They're hurting and heroes did nothing to help them. Because heroes and mainstream society are basically the same thing, it's easy for some to see the villains as more of a rebellious army against an oppressive government than real villains. Like, the American Revolutionaries committed war crimes, but of course here in the US they're lauded as heroes against against the villainous British Empire. Plus, I've seen a lot of people who relate heavily to the real life traumas these villains have. Abuse and mental illness are unfortunately very common things and people connect their own emotions to those they see on the screen. They of course feel validated by that experience and want others to understand where they're coming from, I think. Now, I'm not a villain stan. I empathize with them deeply, but I'm not going to go on defending the things I do. This is just what I've noticed after half a decade in this fandom.
Dude Chris is always spitting facts! No matter how sympathetic a villain can be it’s important to remember that they are still doing bad things. You can’t use your pain to justify burning the world. Keep being awesome Normies!
Best thing about Endeavor is how much SJW readers hate him, Horikoshi keeps trolling them with his gruelling redemption arc, because all they want is to see him dead.
Lmao it might be silly but for me I had my suspicions about Dabi because every time he ran into shoto or endeavor he would say their full names in this tone that kinda pointed to them being the reason he joined the leauge or that they were his goal is some kind of way
14:31 Notice Shoto calling Endeavor dad? He always just calls him Endeavo, I’m pretty sure this is the first time we actually hear him refer to him as “dad”. What’s that mean exactly? I’m not sure but I feel 100% intentional and significant
My one super tiny grip. It’s very minuscule. Shotos first line being “Damn he’s fast. Ready dad?” Doesn’t sound as impactful as the subs line of “Dad, He’s coming Dad”. The sub felt more panicky and him trying to get his dads attention. Overall fantastic work from the dub team. That was literally my only singular itch with this episode.
Same 😭 but idk why it seems to be cool to shit on dub in the anime community, it's all about preference and by popularizing the notion that dub is bad is knocking the hustle of the talented dub VAs
“We need to lock her in her cell” did you not just listen to what she JUST said? All for one revealed previously quirks have an affect on personality yet you don’t correlate her fixation of blood is out of her control because of that quirk
You guys are right that the villains are being somewhat hypocritical with their level of crimes. I think Dabi was just pointing out the hypocrisy of Endeavor being hailed as a hero in public, while in private he was a villain to his family. Dabi doesn’t deny or excuse that he’s done messed up shit himself. Only showed that he’s the product of abuse and neglect that his father carried out in secret. Similar to Shigaraki’s backstory. He believes heroes will “sacrifice” others for notoriety and call it heroism. That’s why he follows Stain’s ideology, because he believes Endeavor was a fake hero. Not saying he’s not a changed man, but in Dabi’s eyes the man who physically and mentally tormented his family shouldn’t have risen so high. Him being a decent dad is RECENT honestly. Hell, Endeavor was bullying Shoto at the tournament like six months ago or something.
I mean,between Dabi's interest in Endeavor,him sending a high end nomu to kill him back in season 4,the Endeavor internship arc, that season's ending and this season's opening,Dabi being Touya was heavily hinted at,hell im surprised anyone even got surprised by the reveal at all. That being said,it was an amazing episode and i wish Best Jeanist didnt interrumped Dabi's suicide prominence burn.
THE REACTUONS WERE HILARIOUS;;! LOL THE MIX OF SCREAMING AND LAUGHING AT THE REVEAL!!! Also ppl were theorizing a lot about dabi being touya before the release of this ep
Dabi's VA popped tf off this episode. Both sub and Dub. I honestly can't decide which I like. The Raspy hate filled goads of the Dub, or the insane giddy filled taunts of the Sub.
@@narukunn5152 It's different in the sub but it's still obvious that he is reference to Natsu because when he was first shown he was wearing Natsu's scarf.
And even Endeavour hasn’t found a way to prevent his body from overheating which is why there probably isn’t a way for Dabi to not burn himself while using his quirk which is even hotter then Endeavour’s
Bro chill, you are the worse viewer. Always worried about the dumbest s***, like you are some god viewer who catches every dialog and easter egg in everything they watch, first time without flaw.
All these MHA characters are developed. Which means there are positives and negatives to every character, and I always love the discussion the Normies have about all the characters, especially the different viewpoints. I don’t agree with everything y’all say, but I appreciate the discussion and appreciation for MHA and look forward to your reactions
Endeavour is the most misunderstood character 1. Dabi didn't had abusive childhood, to understand dabi equate him with the Tai Lung of kung fu panda 1, actually he had a perfect and most loving childhood, and his feelings toward endeavour is same as Tai lung had toward master shifu. 2. Endeavour neither forced marriage neither abused or forced his wife to bear kids, actually it was endeavour's wife idea to have more kids, all this idea of endeavour being abusive and only caring about his ambition comes from the shoto's perspective who suffered the most among the siblings, remember the middle siblings lived a wonderful life. 3. Endeavour wife was already in depression due to loss of Toya, thats why she blamed endeavour for lighting that thirst of becoming best hero which ultimately consumed Toya. 4. Once Endeavour saw shoto potential, he didn't wanted ir so at best he was super strict on him, its not uncommon for parents to fulfill their dream through their children, only one point where endeavour is wrong is he didnt talked, was more than strict, had no one to talk about Toya so constructed a boundary around himself, was suffering from constant inferiority complex from all might and had a rude outfront.
Many people knew that dabi is Toya ( but they used to forget everything so i am not surprised that they never saw it coming ) but they executed this reveal in a good way that's what made it amazing
Fun fact: You weren't supposed to know the guy on the copter was Best Jeanist before the reveal; both the animations show too much in the cold open and the captions here even named him, lol. What a mess.
Best jeanist coming in with the badass main character energy had me hype lol. Also to be fair dabi has literally the least to complain about, he was the favorite until it was discovered that his fire hurt him then Endeavor tuned down on his training. Then when shoto showed up he was being ignored like the other kids. Bro literally became this because he lost his favorite son spot.
Endeavour did try to change & succeeded in most aspects but due to his position & potential negative effect on the masses, he chose to move forward instead of revealing & atoning. Dabi is a villain & is not looking for sympathy really, even when he says he is. He wants to burn down everything Endeavour has built. Undoing all that was done while he believes he was cast aside. He called himself Stains true successor because he is the stain that Endeavour left on the world. He will continue to spread & dirty his father's legacy until the world decides to throw Endeavour away instead of cleaning it all up. Reveling in it every second of the way. Because the attention/focus is now back on him. Also don't forget they have all manipulated by AFO to different degrees. Both directly and indirectly. Impressionable kids that went very wrong, very early. They're villains but we sympathise because they could have been saved at one point.. If they weren't overlooked. Toga being the youngest, is shown to have that last straw moment in this episode. Something I think was intentionally aligned.
The only villain I actually felt bad for is Twice because he wasn’t even really evil. He was a good guy who met bad circumstances. All the rest of them minus lizard man and compress are just asstastic individuals
My god seriously best reaction I've ever seen 😂 and also give dabi...no I mean toyas VA Jason liebrecht a platinum medal, ive been waiting for this for quite sometime now
You guys need to understand that if society didn't first fail these villians, they never would have become villians in the first place. This is one of the main points in the show
Fun fact: For those who remember or go back to see, Dabi's first appearance in the anime was him standing in front of a hair salon
Horikoshi is know for his insane amount of foreshadowing. This season the random background villains who attacked Midnight showed up again fifty chapters later in the manga, and you understand why they were siding with Machia.
@@TheZapan99 There's literally no insane amount of foreshadowing lol
@@celinho68 The doctor showing up in the first episode as Deku's pediatrician, implying Midoriya really had a quirk but it was stolen from him? The fact we still don't know anything about Deku's father beyond his fire quirk (a very common one, like Dabi just said in this episode)? Ashido inspiring Kirishima to become a hero by facing Machia in highschool?
@@TheZapan99Deku didn’t have a quirk. That’s not what the doctor was doing. Somebody would’ve caught on that a bunch of kids just went to this doctor and somehow all of them didn’t have quirks? Especially when being quirkless isn’t that common? The doctor DUPLICATES quirks, he says it in the show. That’s why his position was such a clever idea. Being in the medical field and coming across people with quirks allowed him access to duplicating the quirks.
@@Matty13808 You've got it wrong. The doctor's quirk is Life Force, it slows down his aging process. At some point in the past, AFO took the doctor's original quirk to extend his own life, leaving him with only a duplicate. The ability to duplicate quirks for his research is listed under genius intellect, it is not a quirk. Being the chairman of Jaku hospital, the doctor had access to dead patients (it's implied he euthanized some of them) for his Nomu creation program. There is nothing to confirm or deny he stole Deku's potential quirk beyond his appearance as his pediatrician, it is just a fan theory at this point. Source : MHA wiki, Kyudai Garaki.
Dabi trying to take them all out in a suicide Prominence Burn was animated beautifully
And the desperation of that final attack for the dub VA is exceptional. Don’t get me wrong I loved the sub’s performance a lot this ep, but the prominence burn scene felt a little too casual and I much prefer the demented sound you get in the dub.
@@Phasmania Prominence Burn sounded a lot better in sub when Endeavor did it at the end of season 4 as well. Japanese VA's seem to have mastered emotional yelling to a degree english VA's just can't match.
@@robertcampbell8070 You might have misread my comment but I’m trying to say I preferred the English dub’s “flashfire fist prominence…” that Dabi did, and I actually think the dub also went harder on the S4 finale prominence burn too. I really do love both, but Patrick Seitz is just insanely good imo. Obviously just my opinion here tho
@@Phasmania Yes, I'm disagreeing lol. I don't think ultra emotional moments pack nearly the punch in dub as in sub. The S4 Prominence Burn was FAR worse in dub IMO. Personal opinion of course. Great job here, but I'd take the japanese VA any day, personally.
Yeah it sounded amazing in Japanese not really that good in dub tho the “HA!” Really wasn’t needed
Both the sub and dub performances for Dabi did AMAZING this episode. Props to their voice actors!
Yes
In my opinion subbed just has more emotional energy. Dub not bad tho surprisingly
But still the sub is miles better
I agree both made me tear tf up 😭 I just really love Dabi
You are kidding me, the dub version is bad and i watch dub versions for many animes. This case is bad asf, this VA for dabi is so out of place, jesus. For me, at least, is ruined the scene.
Props to you Normies for not having this reveal spoiled for you. The Dabi is Touya prediction has been popular with the fandom for years now, even after it happened in the manga
How is it still a prediction after the reveal
@@randomaccount4950 think they meant before which it was a big thing around season 3
I mean its a pretty obvious "plot twist". Blindwave figured it out long time ago. Its just normies being normies.
@@PicaroAnimations Exactly, thank you
its kinda the most obvious reveal ever
Nobody's mentioned this but give it up to Endeavors dub VA when he said "I believed you were alive" it really captured the panic and despair Endeavor was in seeing his son who he thought was dead charge straight for him
Endeavor's dub VA has been killing it this whole season, but omg he was really breaking my heart this episode!
Patrick Seitz.
He’s also the voice of Franky in the English dub of One Piece.
He's also Dio in JOJO 😍
Patrick Seitz is also the VA for Thorkell the Tall in the English Dub of Vinland Saga. He does a masterful job.
Man Jiren's VA got range🔥
You guys...he isn't stealing his Father's moves....Endeavor TAUGHT him everything. PS never read the Manga, but as a Dad, this scene broke me...
You guys missed the point. Endeavor didn't try to fix his family issues because he was finally #1. He tried to fix his family issues because he became #1 and realized how much of his life he had wasted pursuing something so meaningless. He saw how it didn't change anything and he felt remorseful for everything he did in his pursuit
Agreed, I’m surprised that they don’t realize this
It's semantics and basically the same thing.
@Funt Nugget it's not at all the same thing. Nor is it semantics. When this is part of the narrative within the story. Both implied and stated by the character.
@@FuntNuggetThe nuance is important here. It's not that Endeavor got his goal and changed for the better, it's that reaching the top by default and realizing not only how empty he was in doing so, but also realizing the weight All Might carried as a pillar of society caused him to look inward. Hell, two episodes back All Might outright says it: Endeavor had to focus on hindsight to see his flaws. You're focusing on the catalyst to his change and thus missing the forest for the trees.
Apparently, in the manga (not sure if its the same in the anime) the first time you see Dabi he's standing outside a barbershop. Thats crazy.
That's also the case in the anime, although it's in front of a beauty salon. Season 2 episode 18
i think it was a salon (there’s a difference lmao)
@@joe_the_goatt You're right, he was in front of a beauty salon (in the anime, not sure about the manga)
@@rajaajaz669 i don’t think they showed this in the anime
@@joe_the_goatt They did, season 2 episode 18. Around the 8:20 mark
Easily one of the best episodes in mha so far! Fun fact: when this chapter of the mha manga came out, it literally out trended the US election!
Woah, that’s quite an achievement for MHA!
Holy shit that is amazing.
More bots posting about this shit than the election? Huh. That's worth knowing I guess?
Was there when the spoilers came out! I freaked out!
Shiggy got the heroes in the legs and arms.
Dabi got them in the Heart.
11:56 gotta give it to Toya he covered all his bases 😂 he really thought it all through for this very moment
Definitely lol. "I'm Touya Todoroki. Oh? Don't believe me? Here's the test results to prove it!" Maybe it's a little weird, but something about the whole thing with the DNA test struck me as kind of funny.
@@whitneybennett4857It's a relatively mundane thing in a huge pivot point in the story. I think the relative simplicity is what gives it some comedic edge
Best Jeanist doesn't just control Denim, he controls FIBERS. He has some OP abilities-it probably can't work on organic life, since proteins are fibers. But those chains that dropped down with him are probably made out of Carbon Nanotubes. OP.
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Don't they explain that in those powers explanation things. People downplay him and I always thought his powers were good. He just uses his denim cause why not. People hate those power showcases and flash backs but forget how they are useful outside bingeing.
@@nichescenes Then again, his quirk takes a lot of practice like Mirio's
Even though we sorta knew, the revelation is executed amazingly. The way Dabi just casually greets them to revealing the secret and backstory to straight out chewing out Endavor with a reason you suck speech to straight out declaring his gonna send him to h###, it was epic, shocking, and somewhat funny. There’s no way Endavor is gonna recover after this. 😁It moments like this is why MHA is one of the best manga/anime’s in recent years.
It was always in the back of my head since season 3 so the reveal didn’t catch me off guard at all. I’m kinda surprised it surprised so many other people tho
That’s what makes the moment so great: the execution
@@ShervierJ Same here it was the eyes that gave it away for me and the way he just taunted Todoroki. I asked my friend who reads the manga if they were related and he gave me the conformation 😅😅. Season 3 kinda made it obvious
My hero is good, but if you think it's one of the beat in recent years, you gotta broaden your horizons when it comes to anime and manga. Plenty of things have done what my hero bas done, some better, some worse
@@ShervierJ I always felt that the effectiveness of the reveal was more so how Touya revels in utterly destroying the hope of a return to the status quo. The man near-singlehandedly dealt a mortal wound to hero society and owns the moment. Enji losing it to a panic attack and Shouto's desperate pleas to get his father back in the fight also help sell the emotional impact.
Tl;dr, I enjoy the reveal for the emotional impact rather than the fact that it is a narrative "twist" on paper
Fun Fact: Rana accidentally predicted the "Dabi is a Todoroki" thing waaayyyy back in their season 3 episode 7 reaction, around the 5:07 mark
Edit: Another fun fact, the first time we see Dabi/Toya he is in front of a hair salon
It was pretty obvious for anyone that paid attention that he was Toya. They kept mentioning it in prior seasons
@@CoutureThug Except they didn't, lol.
@@CoutureThug yea but they're the normies, that's why it's impressive
Everybody predicted Dabi is a Todoroki. Well, not everybody but like four fifths of the audience.
what episode was dabi in front of a hair salon?
Toga’s quirk makes her want to drink ppl’s blood which isn’t an excuse for her actions but you can also sympathize with how she was ostracized by her family and society and ended up running away at a young age and joined up with the only ppl that accepted her for who she was.
Yeah she should have gotten the proper help to ease it. Actually provide blood, therapy and develop a medicine to counter the urge.
@Cosmic Lionheart It does exist they’ve literally said multiple times that kids receive quirk counselling when they first develop their quirks. Again it’s a case of people falling through the cracks
@@TheJjcczz In particular, Toga's therapist wasn't qualified to treat her and implicitly she wasn't ever given another therapist to try out any other method than *repression.* A tragic figure to be sure
She still a killer.
@@Nekotaku_TV Except Toga doesn't want any normal blood, she wants the blood of those she likes.
Even though I expected Dabi to be a Todoroki I was still mesmerized by Dabi's theatrics this episode
I love how they recognize half truths being told but forget they haven’t actually heard the Mom’s side of the story.
@Cosmic Lionheart i agree,i mean isnt the reason enji didnt train touya is because he was worried that touya couldnt handle the flames and that touya might burn himself (which happened) and did the anime state it yet that rei was actually the one who wanted more kids and not enji
@Mega [MegaSamX10] dont get me wrong,enji still abusive and toxic as shit but like im only pointing out that enji genuinely worried abt his son(touya) and he atleast didnt force rei to give birth to more children
@@definitelynotdrei9561 no enji was the one who wanted kids
@@definitelynotdrei9561 yes he did
@@bruhhh8326 no, he did not lmfao how many times does the story, and the author himself have to point this out to you grognards?
Words truly cannot summarize the pure insanity that was happening in the manga community when this chapter came out
How could there have been pure insanity if it was apparently so absolutely obvious beforehand? At least according to half the comments in here.
@@sweetnumb fans rejoicing. Plus it happened on Nov 5th 2020, so it was just another thing happening that day that was making people go insane. Dabi/Touya trending over the US elections just made everything more surreal
Edit: for perspective, this was a 5 or 6 year long fan theory that was confirmed. Yeah it was obvious, but having it confirmed in such a satisfying way is what made it so great
Y’all's reaction from Dabi's reveal to the end is priceless!!! Can’t wait for y’all to see the rest man you guys are not ready for it
Micky looked so excited to see Best Jeanist return! Loved his lil' happy dance!
The Todoroki story just keeps getting better.
Dabi's voice actor completely owned this episode and this character! It was his stage, literally, and he nailed it!!
Dabi: You reap what you sow Endeavor: The sins of the father Shoto: Am I my brother’s keeper
the reveal in anime is much better than the manga reveal than when he starts dancing it gets even better
When Dabi said "Its cancelling time!" and proceeded to cancel Endeavor, its truly become one of the most anime moments of all time
As much as I've been waiting for the reaction to this ep, I really can't wait for the episode 12 reaction as well. Awesome video as always
Damn right, when a certain someone showed up, I legit couldn't contain myself from sheer joy
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We literally see the scenes where Endeavor learns how All Might really is and their conversation about what it means to be number one. Marketa makes it sounds like he started changing out of selfish gain and not a shift in mindset. 😅
Heres the thing about Dabi, Endeavor is by all technicality no different than a cop who beats his wife. Its a real world statistic that police are more likely to be domestic abusers. Its not the fact that he is not doing his hero job effectively, its the fact that if we put Overhaul( who everyone agreed did monstrous things to Eri) in Endeavor place they should be treated the same. Why i don't agree that Dabi is being manipulative, he is just putting everyone on blast at the same time. And Hero society is corrupt for trying bury information from the public just because it damages hero work as a whole. If a EMS in your city was abusing his family you would want him locked up. Even if he has an amazing rescue record.
@@ljeans531 I'd argue that heroes are much more impactful than EMS or police, they are the pillars of society lmao
@@anusaukko6792 So they should essentially be held to an even higher standard. So you agree with me
I don't actually think Endeavor should be fired and only his family can press chargers. But the public should be aware that heroes are willing to bury wrong doings, whether it's for the greater good or not.
@@ljeans531 You're not wrong but you're not right either. The manga covers all of this. The anime just hasn't caught up yet. But they delve into this specific issue you're bringing up.
The villains pulled a "So much for the tolerant ______" after doing vile crap and seeing the other side strike back with some force. It's akin to the bully mad cause the picked on kid kicked his face in when given the chance and otherwise doesn't. It's silly. But akin to what rana said. When a president needs to be squeaky clean or their called out as bad, like obama, vs someone who's like yeah i grab the ___ssy, so what move on im doing some sketch over here too...that's old $h*t, and people are like yeah this guy did so much i don't care and i support him because he doesn't care...like biases in all society exist. A society functioning on just heroes and villains, so much was bound to break under scrutiny. Hard to be absolute and perfect. It's why the symbol of peace mattered so much...he never failed in the people's eye and always keeps a smile but had to by being OP in society making villains try to up the ante, like balancing the force lol.
12:42 Actually, that kid is the “Look at him!” kid from the end of Season 4 who was hyping up Endeavor when he & Hawks were fighting the Nomu Dabi sent to them.
Wow it’s so interesting hearing the dub after the sub, both are completely different but absolutely amazing. MHA is killing it this season bro.
Yeah I've been watching both even though I normally watch dub for MHA and I got to say both have been very good.
Yeah the dub is emotional and the sub just kinda glosses past the important lines
The va for the dub for dabi did amazing!!!
No wonder, he also does the dub voice for Zeke from Aot
Yeah, I love how Dabi's just like "Look at this 'hero' stab a guy in the back!" when they had to show a freeze frame because they had to edit out all the blue fire that was burning Hawks XDDD
Also, pretty sure Best Jeanist is using carbon fiber cables to restrain Machia and the others.
I was spoiled about this last year. Tbh what Dabi said about fire quirks being common is why I didn’t see it coming. I didn’t expect him to release it to the public the way he did, that was crazy
Fun fact: Dabi's voice actor is the same guy who voices Zeke from Attack on Titan and Qrow from RWBY Volume 7 and 8. I freaking love his performances.
Lol man it's so funny they mentioned the fire at sekoto peak was because endeavor pushed him too hard but really its because he stopped pushing him.
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I had the Dabi reveal spoiled for me, which was totally gutting when I saw how they did it as such a massive thing. It was great to see your reactions as people that were totally unspoiled, so thanks guys
Also, I thought they did a good job of explaining that Endavour didn't assume Dabi was dead. The fire crew told Endevour that he was probably dead, and that his bones had burnt to ash, but endevour refused to believe it and kept looking for him, only accepting it after they couldn't find any further trace of him
Dabi's Prominence Burn would have turned Shoto and Endeavor into Ash 100%
Edit.: Well Dabi would have also turned into Ash but I dont think he cares about this.
Considering what we’ve seen, he’d have oneshot them and then some lol
Your right he wouldn’t care
Shoto would've had a chance to survive if he put up an ice wall as it would have formed both a protective barrier and launched him farther away from Dabi.
21:36 That's such a disingenuous take from Marketa. Because of the way the story is told, we've constantly had access to Endeavor's internal monologue and thought process from the moment he took center stage back in season 4, so we know for a fact that his desire to better himself comes from a place a sincerity, and we've seen exactly what was it that made him want to change.
Just ignore dumb people
To be fair, she got cut off and didnt get to explain it. She also doesnt like him much like many people for that flash back, it clouded judgement. I can see a woman having a bias against a character that beat his wife. :( Not saying she's right or wrong just trying to see her point. I just take it for a story and move on.
yesh Marketa does this all the time in MHA, chainsaw man, Code geass etc.. she is first to condemned and ignore anything good if the person does one bad thing in their life or even try to change their life(according to her its not sincere)
She has a point that the timing was suspicious, like whyd he wait to become number 1 hero to make amends with his family.
Cuz before he became number 1, He was obsessed to get the title, hurting everyone in his way. Now that he got it, Not only he realized the title is pretty meaningless, He now has no choice but to look back at all the terrible things he did to get it and wants to make amends. Also that talk with all might helped realize what it truly means to be Number 1@@quantumwitcher9376
The thing about 3rd party facts is that there isn't really a 3rd party everyone in the Dabi situation would be biased in the view so pretty much theirs Dabis side and endeavors and Dabi got his story out first so damage has already been done.
Todoroki screaming for his dad to help always gets me 😢Their family is so tragic.
This is the first time shoto called Endeavor his dad
Jeanist’s quirk is Fibre Master btw not jean or cloth control. The cables he came with are Carbon Fibres (which are durable as all heck).
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*Manga Reader Opinion*
When All Might retired, Endeavor was the next strongest hero to replace him as number one. With that being plainly obvious to everyone, peoples faith with Endeavor as the number one was shaken knowing his personality and how he differs from All Might. Hence, he wanted to ask All Might what it meant to be a symbol of peace and he told him to look at what he wanted to protect. This, coupled with Suraj point of how he became number one led to self reflection on his actions. Honestly characters like Endeavor and Bakugo are the best parts of this series just seeing how they start and where they end up
Endeavor earned his second spot by putting in the work. Despite never beating All Might in the roster (most likely because of the popularity poll) it was said in one of the earlier episodes of the show that he had the highest rating in villain take downs which means higher than All Might’s. He got the job done. Was he an absolutely terrible father and in which made him a terrible person(at the time)?? Absolutely, however, that did NOT and tbh SHOULD NOT diminish the lives he’s saved and the villains he’s stopped. Most of the Top 10 heroes are in there from popularity. Heroes like BJ and that Wash hero don’t have the power level to take down so many top dog villains BUT they’re good with people and get a huge boost from the popularity poll. Endeavor made second being one of the most fearful and arrogant and rude and not very liked heroes out there, he was not carried by the popularity poll, he simply got the job done better than anyone else and made second place then first when All Might stepped down.
He became number 1 because he was the only hero actively trying to be better than All Might. That level of effort, in return, made him more qualified than anyone else.
So, a couple things. Endeavor did love his wife, as we've seen hints to that, but he did have kids with her for the purposes of quirks, but also they have said it's not all that uncommon for quirk marriages to happen in that world.
Micky's love for Best Jeanist makes me... so happy 🤣
its nice to see ppl actually surprised at the dabi reveal lol, i started interacting with the fandom just before season 3 came out and the dabi is a todoroki theory was already gaining popularity haha
Idk if anyone else noticed this. But when Dabi was heating up and falling towards Endeavor powering up his attack. He was burning so Hot, That he was melting the ice that shoto put on him, to keep him cooled down.
I love when surge clarifies things in discussions. He’s so good at that ❤
It's really great watching you all present... and reacting to MHA... If you liked this episode, remember, there are still a couple of episodes left before the end of the arc...
This arc has had its ups and downs, but I still looked forward to seeing how the anime would adapt Dabi's Dance from the manga, and it did not disappoint. Dabi's voice actor went absolutely ham this episode.
Poor endeavor. He finally sees the error of his ways and starts being better and it blows up in his face. I guess it’s true that this is a disaster of his own making, it just sucks that it happened right when he started being better.
True but this will also help in his redemption, I've seen men change over time even when things blow up in their faces. He is getting what he deserves but this is honestly to much for one person. Dabi is the true piece of shit
Killing a villain is still illegal in this world. That's why there's so many rules with becoming a hero. Why the students go through so many training arcs.
I think you're ignoring the reason WHY he became the way he did. It was because of his obsession with all might. He didn't want to become a better person because he's now the number one hero. He wants to become a better person because the thing that he was chasing that created his mindset is now gone so he can actually think about what he was doing instead of having tunnel vision. It was about never being good enough
Endeavor had a moment of clarity when he almost died fighting that Nomu. The episode His Start. Best Jeanist can control fibers lol
Fun fact: while you guys were watching season 3 episode 7 of mha rana actually guessed that dabi was endeavor’a kid
Dabi's true identity was teased many times in the manga, to the point everybody saw "secret Todorokis" everywhere, like with Geten the ice villain.
My sub watching ass just stood up and applauded for such an amazing dubbed episode👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Dabis VA did amazing, sounds like he could use something to drink
12:43 I think his appearance is also a reference to Natsu from Fairy Tail; he even has the same voice actor in the dub.
I think none of them have seen Fairy Tail so they don’t really know about Natsu
Chris's criticism of the villains is pretty funny in Dabi's case because Dabi is pretty self aware about what he's doing he just doesn't really give a fuck lol
I love the deep conversation you had at the end!
Keep up the good work!
Dabi being Endeavor's son was as much surprising to me as the 4th Hokage was Naruto's dad. When the entire couch was screaming I thought they did that out of sarcasm. Can't believe they didn't see that coming.
I predicted the 4th being Naruto's dad in the first 2 episodes because of the picture of Minato they had on the wall. I still don't understand how people don't notice that while watching.
Ikr
Yea, I get what you're saying about heroes and villains. I think the reason these villains get defended so much is because so many of them are direct victims/results of things heroes did. They're hurting and heroes did nothing to help them. Because heroes and mainstream society are basically the same thing, it's easy for some to see the villains as more of a rebellious army against an oppressive government than real villains. Like, the American Revolutionaries committed war crimes, but of course here in the US they're lauded as heroes against against the villainous British Empire. Plus, I've seen a lot of people who relate heavily to the real life traumas these villains have. Abuse and mental illness are unfortunately very common things and people connect their own emotions to those they see on the screen. They of course feel validated by that experience and want others to understand where they're coming from, I think. Now, I'm not a villain stan. I empathize with them deeply, but I'm not going to go on defending the things I do. This is just what I've noticed after half a decade in this fandom.
Dude Chris is always spitting facts!
No matter how sympathetic a villain can be it’s important to remember that they are still doing bad things.
You can’t use your pain to justify burning the world.
Keep being awesome Normies!
Normies and awesome are mutually exclusive
Endeavor is actually one of my favorite characters due to multiple reasons, but most of all, because he has had sooooooo much character development.
Same, he's changed so much and it's a good read when you hear his entire story later on
Best thing about Endeavor is how much SJW readers hate him, Horikoshi keeps trolling them with his gruelling redemption arc, because all they want is to see him dead.
@@TheZapan99 and he should
Rana forgot she predicted this when Dani first appeared hahaha
I was so glad when I heard Rana watched them on Twitch. I've never watched anything on Twitch before, but THIS I have to see xD
Lmao it might be silly but for me I had my suspicions about Dabi because every time he ran into shoto or endeavor he would say their full names in this tone that kinda pointed to them being the reason he joined the leauge or that they were his goal is some kind of way
Dabi never said he joined the League because of Endeavor, lol.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 lol never said he did that was just my theory before the reveal
14:31 Notice Shoto calling Endeavor dad? He always just calls him Endeavo, I’m pretty sure this is the first time we actually hear him refer to him as “dad”. What’s that mean exactly? I’m not sure but I feel 100% intentional and significant
My one super tiny grip. It’s very minuscule. Shotos first line being “Damn he’s fast. Ready dad?” Doesn’t sound as impactful as the subs line of “Dad, He’s coming Dad”. The sub felt more panicky and him trying to get his dads attention. Overall fantastic work from the dub team. That was literally my only singular itch with this episode.
The extra “ha” sucked lol😅
It always amazes me that no one figured it out before this moment.
Both VAs were amazing but personally I enjoyed the dub more.
Same 😭 but idk why it seems to be cool to shit on dub in the anime community, it's all about preference and by popularizing the notion that dub is bad is knocking the hustle of the talented dub VAs
“We need to lock her in her cell” did you not just listen to what she JUST said? All for one revealed previously quirks have an affect on personality yet you don’t correlate her fixation of blood is out of her control because of that quirk
You guys are right that the villains are being somewhat hypocritical with their level of crimes. I think Dabi was just pointing out the hypocrisy of Endeavor being hailed as a hero in public, while in private he was a villain to his family. Dabi doesn’t deny or excuse that he’s done messed up shit himself. Only showed that he’s the product of abuse and neglect that his father carried out in secret. Similar to Shigaraki’s backstory. He believes heroes will “sacrifice” others for notoriety and call it heroism.
That’s why he follows Stain’s ideology, because he believes Endeavor was a fake hero. Not saying he’s not a changed man, but in Dabi’s eyes the man who physically and mentally tormented his family shouldn’t have risen so high. Him being a decent dad is RECENT honestly. Hell, Endeavor was bullying Shoto at the tournament like six months ago or something.
This is a wild episode but I can't wait for the next episode!!!
I mean,between Dabi's interest in Endeavor,him sending a high end nomu to kill him back in season 4,the Endeavor internship arc, that season's ending and this season's opening,Dabi being Touya was heavily hinted at,hell im surprised anyone even got surprised by the reveal at all.
That being said,it was an amazing episode and i wish Best Jeanist didnt interrumped Dabi's suicide prominence burn.
Riding at the bus near the window. With shower rain and listening to your mini podcast is the best. 😊👍
THE REACTUONS WERE HILARIOUS;;! LOL THE MIX OF SCREAMING AND LAUGHING AT THE REVEAL!!! Also ppl were theorizing a lot about dabi being touya before the release of this ep
Dabi's VA popped tf off this episode. Both sub and Dub.
I honestly can't decide which I like. The Raspy hate filled goads of the Dub, or the insane giddy filled taunts of the Sub.
+1 for Todoroks
Goddamn seriously. Dabi is the perfect friggin' villain, and I fucking love it.
Even watching you guys react to this episode gave me mad chills
The fact Dabi's "Dance" was skipped is void in my heart that can never be filled
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The kid with pink hair is supposed to be a reference to Natsu from Fairy Tail, they even got his voice actor 😂
Is it the same for the japanese?
@@narukunn5152 idk
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It's different in the sub but it's still obvious that he is reference to Natsu because when he was first shown he was wearing Natsu's scarf.
Curios to compare the Dub, Dabi’s VA put on the performance of the year in the sub
I might have to give it to Grisha's VA in Memories of the Future, but both are peak
Yeah not bad but not close
And even Endeavour hasn’t found a way to prevent his body from overheating which is why there probably isn’t a way for Dabi to not burn himself while using his quirk which is even hotter then Endeavour’s
Did they notice that Shoto called Endeavor dad or were they just too overwhelmed with what was happening at that moment?
Bro chill, you are the worse viewer. Always worried about the dumbest s***, like you are some god viewer who catches every dialog and easter egg in everything they watch, first time without flaw.
All these MHA characters are developed. Which means there are positives and negatives to every character, and I always love the discussion the Normies have about all the characters, especially the different viewpoints. I don’t agree with everything y’all say, but I appreciate the discussion and appreciation for MHA and look forward to your reactions
Endeavour is the most misunderstood character
1. Dabi didn't had abusive childhood, to understand dabi equate him with the Tai Lung of kung fu panda 1, actually he had a perfect and most loving childhood, and his feelings toward endeavour is same as Tai lung had toward master shifu.
2. Endeavour neither forced marriage neither abused or forced his wife to bear kids, actually it was endeavour's wife idea to have more kids, all this idea of endeavour being abusive and only caring about his ambition comes from the shoto's perspective who suffered the most among the siblings, remember the middle siblings lived a wonderful life.
3. Endeavour wife was already in depression due to loss of Toya, thats why she blamed endeavour for lighting that thirst of becoming best hero which ultimately consumed Toya.
4. Once Endeavour saw shoto potential, he didn't wanted ir so at best he was super strict on him, its not uncommon for parents to fulfill their dream through their children, only one point where endeavour is wrong is he didnt talked, was more than strict, had no one to talk about Toya so constructed a boundary around himself, was suffering from constant inferiority complex from all might and had a rude outfront.
I can’t wait for Marketa’s biased defense when Rei tells her story
I mean if you’re just going to defend Endeavor and act like he did nothing wrong then just say it.
I felt physically ill during the Dabi dance scene and I ALREADY KNEW! I got it spoiled and it STILL made me feel sick
glad Rana and micky were on the couch for this one
FINALLY OMFG I KEPT REFRESHING UR CHANNEL FOR THIS REACTION I love yall!!
Many people knew that dabi is Toya ( but they used to forget everything so i am not surprised that they never saw it coming ) but they executed this reveal in a good way that's what made it amazing
Fun fact: You weren't supposed to know the guy on the copter was Best Jeanist before the reveal; both the animations show too much in the cold open and the captions here even named him, lol. What a mess.
Because he's talking, hard to hide it there.
Bruh it's because they know mha very well it wasn't the same case with other reactors they didn't knew it
@@willfanofmanyii3751 They wouldn't recognize his voice. Not only should it not be in the subtitles, but also weird to have subs on for a dub!
Rana called this the very first time she saw him.
Best jeanist coming in with the badass main character energy had me hype lol. Also to be fair dabi has literally the least to complain about, he was the favorite until it was discovered that his fire hurt him then Endeavor tuned down on his training. Then when shoto showed up he was being ignored like the other kids. Bro literally became this because he lost his favorite son spot.
Endeavour did try to change & succeeded in most aspects but due to his position & potential negative effect on the masses, he chose to move forward instead of revealing & atoning. Dabi is a villain & is not looking for sympathy really, even when he says he is. He wants to burn down everything Endeavour has built. Undoing all that was done while he believes he was cast aside.
He called himself Stains true successor because he is the stain that Endeavour left on the world. He will continue to spread & dirty his father's legacy until the world decides to throw Endeavour away instead of cleaning it all up. Reveling in it every second of the way. Because the attention/focus is now back on him.
Also don't forget they have all manipulated by AFO to different degrees. Both directly and indirectly. Impressionable kids that went very wrong, very early. They're villains but we sympathise because they could have been saved at one point.. If they weren't overlooked.
Toga being the youngest, is shown to have that last straw moment in this episode. Something I think was intentionally aligned.
The only villain I actually felt bad for is Twice because he wasn’t even really evil. He was a good guy who met bad circumstances. All the rest of them minus lizard man and compress are just asstastic individuals
Put Spinner in that camp, as he's the only mentally stable person in the group and never did anything wrong.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 facts, Spinner is just the friend that is just around observing while everyone else is doing the wild shit
“All Might is Obama and Endeaver is Bill Clinton”
How dare you insult All Might and Endeaver by comparing them to corrupt politicians.
Favorite episode by far. The realness of the Todoroki family is easily the number 1 i've kept up with the series,
My god seriously best reaction I've ever seen 😂 and also give dabi...no I mean toyas VA Jason liebrecht a platinum medal, ive been waiting for this for quite sometime now
You guys need to understand that if society didn't first fail these villians, they never would have become villians in the first place. This is one of the main points in the show
No child left behind!!!
Agreed