Listen To The Sound of IndyCar's 2024 Hybrid Engines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2023
- The NTT IndyCar Series recently completed its first and final major test of its hybrid engine and energy recovery system before the ERS goes into mass production for 2024, and RACER's Marshall Pruett was there to document it.
Our first video is a simple audio celebration which answers the long-held question of what IndyCar's new hybrids will sound like when they debut next year.
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Cars sound just fine. Plus with 150 extra HP and a lighter aeroscreen on the way I cant complain.
Spot on, given the lower CG and how weight sensitive the cars are it could be a great mix up. As much as I am one wanting a new chassis the DW12/IR18 is going to be an icon for how flexible it has been.
Sounds exactly like 80 turbo F1 cars. That's amazing !
@@ulysse21no they fckn don't 😅
This is the least excitiled comment I've ever read. They are just fine.
We have lost the emotional excitement that Motorsport had in the V10 days of F1...
@@Emira_75 They do. I'm talking about the 80s turbo era, not the 90s ! Go and watch videos of the era if you weren't born yet back then !
I'm a F1 fan just watched this video they sound a hell of a lot better than F1. Well done Indycar.
The late 90s V10 will always be remembered, it was Dale Earnhardts favorite sound
It still sounds like a vacuum cleaner compared to the CART V8.
@@sulphurous2656good, we live in the 21st century.
@@Clangokkunerso in the 21st century we’re supposed to not like loud engine sounds on a race car. Your the type that will build a house near a racetrack then complain about noise.
Definitely not a racer, you sound like a liberal, just saying 😮😮😮
@@sulphurous2656 yes, but its leftist time... Vote right and we will get back to science, instead of ideology. :) Its the people, who want to believe crap...
And you got to give it to them, it sound a lot better, than these F1 carrera cars. :)
For me, it was a mixture of F1 from the 80's TURBO Era and current F1 cars. And without a doubt, it sounds much better than today's F1. Congratulations to Indycar.
Will F1 sound a bit more like this when they remove the MGU-H?
I hope so my friend. This vacuum cleaner sound is kind of annoying in my opinion!@@joaopinho2361
@@joaopinho2361hopefully they do
@@joaopinho2361 honestly V10s are what F1 needs right not. Not too much loss on power, big savings on weight, cheaper engine so more competition, more reliability since its simpler too, etc
@@R9naldo V10s and reliability can't be in the same room because they rev up to 19K RPM, they are simpler, sure, but remember that mechanical DNFs during that era is much higher than it is right now. I'm pretty sure it will be the same even now. Not that I don't like V10s but there's just nothing wrong with the current V6, it's the hybrid that making it look bad.
This kind of sound is fine, F1 only needs to ditch the MGU-H and maybe increase the displacement a bit although by the time I wrote this comment, only the MGU-H that's gone, nothing change except that.
Never understood why people thought it would change the sound. The hybrid is completely kinetically harvested from the drivetrain. It doesn’t interfere with the exhaust gases at all
because people are ignorant
@@The52car It's gonna be even more dangerous when it catches fire though.
@@MaLva500 If it's like the Hypercar/GTP cars in WEC and IMSA, the bigger danger is if the Hybrid system has a problem, and they need to extract the driver. In Prototype racing, they have to literally jump out of the car instead of stepping out as to not create a ground so they don't just... die. there will also have to be special gear to deal with the hybrid stuff because you cannot be touching the ground at all.
The only problem is weight but that is more a 2026 chassis challenge I guess.
I think most of it was either based on what they head on Formula E or what we're seeing in F1. Even though F1 and IndyCar are going going to V6 turbo hybrids the way the engines are laid out and formed are two very different things. I guess this is why technology is so interesting.
Definitely sounds better than current V6 hybrids in F1 IMO. But I will forever miss a V8 or an F1 V10
They do sound different, like an 80s F1 inline 4/v6 turbo especially at lower revs out corners under throttle. Very cool.
It’s because they were short shifting due to the wet conditions
that's the Honda PT for you.
they already sound like that
Maybe if just trying to hear something different but to me, in addition to the typical sounds, it sounds like there’s a bit of that electric engine whistle added in?
I like it. It’s definitely still raw and aggressive.
Its the same garbage, christ you'd think they'd like to do something different, really make 'um sing. But no, its the same vanilla crackers for another 15 years. Know wonder why this series is suffering and can't even put a full schedule together without double headers. Just keep doing the same.
I think that sound was already there, but we rarely get it from the onboard mics. it's from the straight cut gears. However, given it has MORE power on the gears without more noise from the motors, it could be louder indeed, but it doesn't mean it came from the hybridization.
That's the gearbox.
Sounds like a LMDH but there’s no problem with that(I’m talking about the whine from the hybrid)
They sound much better than the current Formula 1 hybrid engines. I really miss the glorious sounds of the 2.65 litre V8 turbocharged engines like the introduction sound of this video. The good old days of IndyCar!
THIS! ^^^^^^
Indycars already sound great and hybrids won't change a thing. Can't wait to see these beasts fly with the extra horsepower. I'm sure they'll get to 190-200 mph on straights depending on straight length, downforce configuration.
Hybrid is clearly not the bad guy here, it's all the MGU-X unnecessary gubbins that F1 insisted on. Shows what you can do when you keep things simple
Fantastic audio - almost like being there trackside. Thanks Racer!
80s turbo f1. well, might start watching indy now. absolutely insane 🔥
I wish I had your job, traveling to hear what the new hybrid Indy cars sound like. It's like me going to my local gray haired Corvette club event and listening to the exhaust sounds from the guys who just installed the latest and greatest aftermarket exhaust system on their Corvette. You produce the best videos, love them all. Wish Formula 1 would take a little bit of whats happening in Indy Car and put it fourth to F1 cars, they still sound like "dust buster"
The 2026 regs have addressed this
F1's current hybrid system is more advanced and harvests exhaust gas energy. thats why they sound quieter. Indy's system does not do that
I love it! Sounds so much better than the F1 hybrid power units.
Well... if you consider what this "hybrid" is indycar, its no different to KERS used during f1's v8 era, over 10 years ago. So like for like, no chance a 2.2 tt v6 compares to a 2.4 NA V8.
I mean, these really aren’t comparable to the power unit in an f1 car.
it actually sounds very similar to the current Red Bull engine, but slightly higher pitched and less grunt.
they do use Honda engines so there might be some crossover idk, but yes you are right!@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
Excellent news! Sound to me is a vital component of the spectator experience, and I am very happy that they sound basically identical to the current cars.
Sounds like an Indycar to me 🤷🏻 you can hear the electric components for sure, but it's buried underneath the V6.
Anyone who was concerned should have figured out we had nothing to worry about when IMSA showed up with their hybrid tech this year
This and IMSA's new cars are a great example of how to do hybrid race cars right.
I’m a British f1 fan of 30 years but it’s got so boring. Where as Indycar is so competitive & so exciting. Can’t wait to see those new cars race next year.
I just wish there were chassis options to got with power plant options.
The cars LOOK comically similar
Glad you've come to enjoy Indycar. I'm an American so I grew up with it and only got into F1 later. I don't understand people who think it's impossible to like both series because they each have their charms.
Much better than F1 sound.
Greetings from 🇧🇷
Where are all the Brazilian drivers that are supposed to be in Indycar? Brazil has more winners in the series except for the US so it seems weird that Helio is currently the only one. If Felipe Drugovich doesn't get an F1 seat I hope he comes to Indycar. He was impressive in winning F2 last year.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Very good question. I really dont know why we are "out" of Indy.
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Thanks for sharing Marshall!
Excelente sonido !!!!! Saludos de Argentina !!
I like the new taillights! And the thing sounds mad angry on decel.
I have not been to that many IndyCar tracks but the Toronto Molson Indy led the league in sound. As you entered the grounds you are walking right past the Princess(?) Where they have almost slowed to a stop to do their run up in a straight line all the way to a super tight right-hander where there's only room for one car.. they are barely moving.. the consequence is that they are working themselves all the way through the gears as quickly as they can to as fast as an Indy car can go and then almost as quickly downshifting all the way through the box in about 10 seconds. The song of those 1990s Ilmors winding it all the way up and then instantly downshifting all the way through the gears pop pop pop pop pop RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU was an absolute "eargasm" and exhilarating in the extreme.
Prince's Gate gate apparently. I've been calling it "Princess Gate" since 1978 only to learn I didn't pay attention on a field trip long ago
Sounds a lot like 80’s F 1 turbo’s and ten times better than current F1.
That sounds insane!!!! Love the pitch!!!
I have never heard a more beautiful engine
Congratulations, the sound is great🥳
Love the question mark after MEN on that building. So aggressive yet so relevant.
It’s sounds good. Just like what I imagine an IndyCar sounds like. Only thing I really don’t like about hybridization is it almost always raises costs by a decent amount
Yeah rip all the smaller teams, hope juncos can survive
hybrid systems keep a sport relevant.
@@_Mandolorianno they don’t. No one is saying “I’ll watch INDYCAR when they get hybrid engines”.
@@patrickwhite4449 i’m not talking about fans, im talking about manufacturers
@@patrickwhite4449they are I said that
I wouldn't say that's no different. You can definitely hear an electric motor at the lower gears.
I'm a 90s baby....I don't mind how they sound but until they go back to the sound I grew up with.... 93-2000 900HP screaming mini-jets...won't truly suffice my wants and needs 😢
Yup, the series is so mundane, dont change anything when ya can, just keep the same boring slogging sounds for the past decade+. indycar blew it.
Once in a while I’ll go back to DeFeran’s closed course record at California and just listen to it.
@CreamyCornCob I do like where the series is at from a excitement and on-track standpoint...but still feels like a little something is missing...keep the wind-screen on them..but it's gotta be a way to get the cars to get back to the 90s Reynard chasis look with updated safety features
@CreamyCornCob so continue on my 1st point...my biggest issue is schedule and lack of ovals...it's no way Michigan....Milwaukee...Pocono....Australia..and my biggest Cleveland isn't on the schedule.. especially with Roger being in charge...I thought since he took over he'd definitely be apt to bring some of those tracks back that made CART so great before and after the split...the field sizes are back strong again so that's covered..get the sound and tracks back mores races...then indycar I think would be back in popularity
I'll tell you what's missing. I'm someone as well who grew up watching much of CART/F1 in the mid to late 90's. An additional one or two engine manufacturers and chassis for IndyCar is what's missing.
Are they giving the teams/drivers the option to pit/launch on EV only like the LMDh?
Bring back a race a Pocono Indy! The crowd numbers were increasing year-over-year & the track was built for Indy cars.
And the catch fence was built to kill them.
No they weren't.
The video was about the hybrid engine
Stay focused
Right. 😮💨Thats why MP spent nearly a third of the video talking about the sound. You say its all about the engine, MP never talks a word about it, no description - nothing. He talked more about the sound then its performance, differences or anything. So you're wrong on both. @@brucebruce7816
@bmoney2011 ok Mr over dramatic. You mean like Jeff Krosnoff at Toronto? We’re getting way off topic the video, but Indy is the most dangerous track in the world with 230 mph speeds, square corners, and a pit wall that extends into the racing track. With your logic the 500 should be cancelled.
I expect the sound transition has been less of an issue in Indycar given it moved back to turbos slightly earlier than F1 and even while using NA engines the revs were a lot lower.
Meanwhile in F1 they moved from 18000rpm NA engines to 15000 turbos that rarely get above 11-12000 for efficiency reasons, so the change was way more jarring.
they sound almost the same but in a great way. something I noticed but they sound very similar to the twin turbo V6's in F1 but a little more of a higher pitch which is amazing.
Marshall, with the Adoption of Hybrid Electricity in IndyCar; you are going to need to update your Terminology to: Combustion Engine & Electric Motor. You will need to Stop using Motor, for both.
Thanks for your Racer Reporting.
{Bill in CA}
‘Power Unit’ would be the correct way to refer to both at once
Marshall, is there any plan for IndyCar to use the Green Firestone Tires; & where might that be??
{Bill in CA}
Sounds great. Reminds me of F1 years ago.
That V6 sounds beautiful with that whistle
Honestly they sound incredible
In one word : AWESOME.
Great video Marshall! Thanks again. Do you know when the first IndyCar Hybrid Package - Oval Test will take take?
Fantastic!
Now time to actually make a new chassis, isn't it? Over 10 years with the same base is just too long.
In fairness to Indycar that’s been driven by budgets. I agree but it would depend on teams being able to do to it and if they had the budget to purchase all new kit, and I think that’s partly the delaying factor, Indycar are worried about driving teams away who can’t afford it. However what I don’t want is a car that’s fallen behind in safety technology. Like you say, ten years of safety development would make a huge difference, they’d also be able to maybe blend the style of the aero screen into the chassis design a bit more. The new engine and hybrid package has probably pushed up costs by 20% over a year (or more) so maybe if this is stage one, a new chassis would be stage two?
Definitely time for a new car. Way past time. Same car for a decade... 😮
I love it!! sounds like combo of F1/F2 love it
Sounds good as ever!
so glad to hear !!!!!!!! 👌👌👌👌👌👌
I used to watch Indy in 93 & 94 when Nigel mansell was racing in it they showed highlights on tv (that’s what got me into f1 funnily enough) then some late 90’s stuff & some stuff in 07 & 08 but I’m not sure if that was cart or Indy I never understood the split. Thanks to TH-cam I’ve been watching a lot lately. It’s always been more competitive than f1. They didn’t always show it on tv here & any live stuff would be late night Sunday night Monday morning.
Sounds great
I love the cackling, off throttle sound at 1:26. I assume that’s an anti-turbo lag system kicking in?
I would say so, and you can expect these in F1 when the MGU-H goes in 2026.
Most importantly they finally have a starter on the car!
So they won't have to call a caution every time someone stalls it?
Now bring back standing starts. :P
Really?
WHAT A SOUND ❤❤❤
Love the sound! So excited for St. Pete
I agree no sound has been lost, but there’s something extra in there I can’t quite describe. Or maybe it’s just the audio quality of this video. Hard to say unless you’re actually there, but I’m hearing something that I’ve never heard, even in other videos of the current cars.
SONIDO INCREÍBLE , MUY BIEN HECHO INDY ! Ojalá la F1 tomé.nota
Very nice
Did they raise the limiter? Top end sounds a little higher than I'm used to, unless I'm just hallucinating.
Excellent sound. They did it right.
Wow. Great sound. Blows current F1 out of the water.
Thanks, Marshall, this sounds like good news. Wondering about the numbers, 22 & 93(?), just test car numbers?
So do these need to be bump started anymore with the hybrid system? Would cut down on yellow flag times tremendously.
Indy 2024 ... Well done.
Current F1 is in it's wake in terms of sound.
I love Indy because these 6 bangers arent like todays F1 cars. F1 is practically mute today, and these Indy sound GLORIOUS, reminds md of an MP4/4
I like it. I wouldn't even guess. They've nailed it.
I Hope one day IndyCar need a new chassis to accommodate with even more downforce from ground effect in the same manner as an F1/F2 car and 9X8 LMH, like 80% of the downforce come from the ground effect while only 20% from wings, but careful of porpoising.
At the beginning i was like, oh no, they sound quieter and like modern f1 hybrid engines, then i realized i had the volume low and it was a big relief
Well those sounds damn good
love it
actually, really nice sound, I like it.
The only thing i hope from this Hybrid is that NBC updated their graphic by putting battery percentage and electric braking regen.
Yep! That is an Indycar 🎉
These sounds are like those older F1 V6s in the 1985s
❤ it!
as F1 fan, I appreciate this
That's awesome. Do you think they will be able to get to 100% electric and keep the noise and sound?
Is it going to be spec on the hybrid stuff?
It almost has a deeper tone, I like it.
Sounds good
I wish my Roomba sounded like this!
Take notes FIA. This is how you do it!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
When they go hybrid does that change pitstop strategy, how often will they have to pit?
how will the hybrid system work on ovals because my concern is regen
Still sound better than 'Current' F1. They just need to rev higher. Say around 18K + RPM's an we'd be in the money $$ But I get it, reliability on the ovals. and what not...
That regeneration sound is evident listen closely as they slow down for the corners
Excessive sound remains the largest barrier to diversifyfiying and growing motorsports.
Imagine Mercedes-Benz coming back to IndyCar after their debut long in 1994. After all, what used to be Ilmor Engineering is now known as Mercedes-AMG High Performance Powertrain.
Mercedes came to motorize the Penske PC-21, which easily exceeded 1000 HP of power.
Sounds like 80's F1! Awesome! (But really, the 2.6 V8 still a masterpiece!)
How is this system going to work at a place like Indy or texas?
the best part about all of this will be the ability for cars to refire without needing a starter inserted into their rear by the safety crew. Will eliminate numerous cautions for simple spins that only came out because the car stalled.
Is this just the IC engine, or IC with ERS/electric?
Sounds better than my honda! And that's hard to believe 😏
Great to see Indycar learnt from the F1 hybrid introduction
Been hearing this since 2014 in Formula 1. Same basic concept, just added a hybrid system to achieve using electric power that hybrid technology allows.
@ 2:10, reminds me of the 80’s F1 turbo era! Sounds great actually
Speed kills. Sounds killer
Thanks Marshall! Nothing like the sound of an IndyCar.
sounds like a mix of the old school v6 f1 engines and the modern v6 ones
Unlike, F1, Indy did a great job preserving one of the best things about racing... the sound!
Sweet
Sounds fine.
I wanna see a Prius take on these bad boyz.
Awesome, But were they more quick? From what I read it’s push 2 pass 2.0
Likely though more due the lower CG from the lighter aeroscreen and torque boost.
Same sound with barely a added electrical hum. Hopefully its well designed and dependable.
The cars sound good. They sound like IndyCars :-)