U.S Forces Invasion of Russia
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- U.S Forces invaded Russia at two different locations in 1918. Why was this decision made for military intervention boots on the ground in Russia? Well....there's a lot to the mess. In this video about US American history we cover the woodrow wilson invasion of Russia. Why it happened right after the great war. It went down between 1918 and 1920 before soldiers were finally brought home.
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Fiancée? Congratulations on your engagement, Cappy!
Thanks ! This video was her idea she knows history better than me haha
@@TaskPurpose1stSquad you hiding her from us, Cappy? 😂
@@CharliMorganMusicshe's a looker
@@chickenfishhybrid44 and a book-er. Great to have a partner who loves history!
I hear we are all invited
The Allied intervention in the Russian civil war is so interesting, the US and Japan almost went to war in Siberia during this time.
They were there for different reasons
Japan was the weirdest part of the whole intervention - they apparently sent far too many soldiers and everyone wondered what the heck they were up to.
In 1917, the Japanese navy also began patrolling the Mediterranean to help defend against German and Austrian submarine warfare.
Japan was there for different reasons
Fun fact: Bolshevik just means "Dude from the big group of dudes" and it's the best piece of spin in the entire 20th century
More formally, "Bolshevik" means "from the majority" and "Menshevik" is the opposite meaning "from the minority."
cuz they started out smaller
Yeah, Lenin knew how simple minded the Russian people were.
@@YawehthedragondogofELpeople in general are
The Allied Intervention in the Russian Civil War 1918-20 was poor coordinated by the Western Allied the US soldiers was complaining about the British handling of Arctic campaign.
Do a video on if the US could functionally pull off a foreign legion!
So pumped you started using this channel again 💪
It’s Fun to be able to upload here and talk about history and whatever . Foreign legions are really interesting I’m working in covering French one soon .
The marine corps already is the foreign legion 😂 United States’ Mexicans Corps
Possibly we do get a ton of immigrants and they represent about 5 percent of the total us active military
your entire military is foreign legion lmao
The storage of Allied aid was in ArchAngle where it was shipped not on the railroad, they only took the railroad to try and secure passage for the CzEch legion but failed in both objectives
Czechoslovak legion was already in Vladivostok when Allies came there.
@@jakubkopecky9878 They had to go back. They were ordered to go back to the front after they got to vladivostok.
Loving this format, and happy to hear of your engagement. Thanks Cappy!
Canadian troops didn’t leave Vladivostok until January 1919.
Polar bears... Trained military polar bears. Forget drones and AI.
Yes, please. Make C&C Red Alert a reality
That’s terrifying… Raytheon is probably close 😂
I first learned about the US Intervention in Russia back in the early 1990s while listening to the G. Gordon Liddy Show on the radio. It was a question about a US soldier's grave in Arizona who belonged to the 27th Infantry Regiment and Siberia Russia inscribed on the head stone. I was in Hawaii at that time, so I went to Schofield Barracks 25th Infantry Museum to do some research out of curiosity. Reason the 27th Infantry is one of the regiments belonging to the 25th Infantry. I found out that the regiment was sent to Vladivostok in 1918 after WWI ended to guard US interests in Russia along with the 31st Infantry Regiment up until 1920. There was also an infantry regiment from the Michigan National Guard who were supposed to be occupation troops in Germany but ended up in Archangel Russia. Those US units did fight in combat against the Red Army. After they were pulled out of Russia in 1920 they became known as the Polar Bear Expedition, the 27th became known as the Wolfhounds from the Siberian Wolfhound, the 31st as the Polar Bears, along with the Michigan National Guard Polar Bear Regiment. This was never taught in history class in high school and simply forgotten. There are a few monuments dedicated during the 1920s to the men from Michigan in Detroit.
"was sent to Vladivostok in 1918 after WWI ended to guard US interests in Russia" Such nice words instead of "invasion and occupation".
as a french speaking russian, every city name and your pronounciation of memoire felt like a blunt impact the the head. Lovely and interestinngvideo though
I had sadly forgotten about this. Thanks for reminding me!
Never heard this, great footage
fascinating! i honestly knew nothing about this, so i really appreciate the video.
So you just got engaged, and she's already telling you what to make videos of?
Kidding of course! Great video of something I didn't know of occurring. I may have to read the book as well!
Polar bear Expedition- I have a monument south of me in Michigan dedicated to the men who went over there to assist
And people thought Vietnam was stupid. This was so stupid no one even remembers it. Thank you for talking about it.
Pretty cool fiance to recommend a book like that. You're a lucky man Cappy. Congratulations
I don’t remember the name of the book (I read it about 10 years ago), but it documented that several American missing soldiers from the polar bear expedition were actually POWs in the Soviet gulag system in the 1920s and even the early 1930s.
I served in the 4th Battalion 31 infantry regiment. The 31st fought in Siberia. Our mascot was a polar bear named George. It's funny how we were taught a different history prepping for promotion boards. Lol never did a lot of research into the conflict. Will now. Thanks for the video. I will try to pick up some of these books.
Great work Cappy. Again the SPA deserves representation at cabinet level. I’d read the Max Boot account of the Archangel “intervention.” Certainly not history that is still taught in public schools, if ever.
Love the barney style reference 😂, love expeditionary force, Joe, and Skippy
Very cool. Thanks
It's not always corruption that buries the best stories, but wow I have not heard of this!
Idk that you can call this "buried".
This is one of those deliberately omitted stories, because if we start admitting this, you have to start admitting that we’ve been incredibly shitty to Russia, despite them having never invaded nor wronged us, over haps they even are right to be paranoid about not only us, but the rest of our allies given our history of mistreatment, and even invasion of them.
"The Polar Bear Expedition" is a great book about this. It really captures how multinational the force fighting in Russia was. One chapter has the eager and experienced Canadian artillery unit pushing their guns up to the firing line to blast the attacking Bolos with canister shot at point blank range. Also has interesting tidbits like the American made rifles issued to the men were refitted with the russian units of measurement for their iron sights instead of the meters they were trained on, so nobody could hit a damn thing
White Chapel Cemetery in Troy, Michigan is where the Polar Bear memorial is. There is 56 ish solders buried there. Plus the plots close by are from those who survived. But wanted to be layed to rest with there brothers.
If you fought there the story was passed down to your children, so it would never be forgotten.
59,000 US troops also died for nothing in Vietnam. But USA still learnt nothing. Meanwhile, someone is laughing all the way to the bank.
It’s a long ruck from Vladivostok to Moscow. Congratulations on your engagement. I think you’re punching above your weight there but what the heck. Have to admire high standards.
did any of the military stores get evacuated?
We need a film based on the allied intervention, especially the polar bear expedition.
sort of they were a handful of australian soldiers but we never officially were directly involved, they were allowed to volunteer. though the australian navy did have some ships involved.
I believe there were about 150 men of the Australian Imperial Force who were still in England awaiting repatriation following the end of World War I enlisted as infantry in the North Russia Relief Force (NRRF), where they were involved in several sharp battles. Two were awarded the Victoria Cross for their actions.
Anzacs in Arkhangel. The Untold Story of Australia and the Invasion of Russia 1918-19 by Michael Challinger, gives an excellent insight into this little known episode of Australian military history.
Also as part of this a bunch of the US soldiers died on the way from England to Russia on the transport ships and once they arrived before combat started from the Spanish flu going on then. So that likely would increase the casualty numbers from what was mentioned. They were ill prepared and did not have a lot of medical supporting personnel or medical supplies.
I need to read this book
The Australians who fought there only qualified if they had previously been wounded. Just too bizarre.
This was a good documentary on WW I history.
We need a movie based on this
i learned this back in high school but that was in the late 90s thanks for the recap cappy!! 😎 👍
Keep these coming! Hope Fat Electrician can make an occasional guest appearance.
Same with Americans in the Finnish/Soviet war, the US had a Volunteer corp involved typically driving ambulances etc
I also recommend the book Hubris
It's a good read with some food for thought. Military historian Alistair Horne covers the bad assumptions and decisions in I think 6 battles 1900-1950s. Not super deep analysis but it's only one book.
I remember an event in the 1980s. I visited a nursing home where my wife (later ex-wife) worked. I met a former soldier there who was sent to 😊
Siberia. All he could recall was the extreme cold and the kindness of the Belgian nuns.
Nice. SECOND CHANNEL I AM IT FOR IT!!!
14:07 LOL
Check out Lions Led By Donkeys podcast on this topic. Absolutely crazy.
I love the Lions Led by Donkeys podcast.
This reminded me of
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It's the most ridiculous and infamous Russian naval blunder. It has everything accidentally almost starting several new wars, bring wild animals like monkeys and crocodiles on ships for fun, friendly fire, new cults developing on ships, and much more.
Same as it ever was; US troops dying over special interests that make no real sense to most of us and money always has it's role. I wonder if Smedley Butler had any comments on this campaign.
Stupid Wars... Best name ever
@ 0:49 What does "Barney Style" mean?
so that Barney from the Simpsons gets it
Oversimplification
@eskimo05w “Break it Down Barney Style” is military slang used when you’re about to explain something to someone in very basic terms because anything too complex will confuse them, or already has confused them.
@@HollywoodMarine0351 OK, thanks for the explanation.
Gotta mention the 15th marines and shore detachments of marines in Russia.
This and the our WW1 participation fueled the hesitancy of many to get involved in WW2. The Red Scare in the US 1917 to 1920 probably influenced Wilson to send the expedition. Its collapse coincided with Wilson’s illness and the 1918 congressional elections that gave control of congress to the Republicans.
Never learned this in school
You should check out Lions Led By Donkey's s podcast episode about this topic. What a giant clusterfuck.
Go Michigan
8:57 minor upsie
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I bet they haven't forgotten. Where we mostly don't know about it.
Мы это помним.
И мы имеем полно право поддержать например Народную Техасскую Республику в вашей гражданской войне
At one time Czechoslovak legions were holding all Trans-Siberian railway and major cities near it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_the_Czechoslovak_Legion
One thing worth noting is that because of the Russian expedition, Joseon's independence army fought against the Japanese Empire and won the battle, and as a result, Japan, which was a crusading country in World War I, approached the Soviet Union, and Korea's anti-Japanese armed forces were deceived by the Soviet Union's trick. The point is that they have collapsed.
The Czech army, part of the Russian Expeditionary Force, withdrew through Vladivostok and sold its weapons to the Korean Independence Army, and the independence army armed with those weapons fought against the Japanese army and won. In order to take revenge, the Japanese army roamed all over Manchuria and massacred Korean civilians indiscriminately, and the independence forces at the time gathered in response to the Soviet Union, which had extended a false helping hand, and then the Soviet army (at the time, it was a ghost army called the Far East Republican Army). It suffered great damage from communist independence forces sympathizing with the Soviet Army and collapsed.
Hbomberguy has everyone citing these days lol
Reason number 5) the imperial Russians, the white Russians, owed the allies a lot, and the Bolshivics stated early and often they wouldn't pay. So it was in the allies' interest to support the whites.
Yes, my family lived there at that time. The USA Britain and Germany financed the Bolshevik Revolution and we are deeply pist.
Cappy it sounds like you better sleep with one eye open after what you said about the book she got you
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The U.S. Army unit I was in from 1992-95, 1st Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment which has been part of the 25th Infantry Division since the Hawaii Division was split into the 24th and 25th Divisions early in WW2, was part of the American Siberian Expeditionary Force. It was nicknamed the “Wolfhounds” by the Russians because of their speed and tenacity. The Borzois dog breed was our mascot, which was named “Kolchak” after Russian General Kolchak.
there is a book. i havent read it for about 15 years so i might be details wrong
it is called "the next 100 years" and it was published in like 2010 or ish
it discusses a nato invasion of russia through nato turkey, nato ukraine, and nato japan
lol. well turkey is nato. ukraine is like "on the list" and japan opened their nato liaison office in 2023
yeah. we are in dangerous times. i am an optimist though. i invest in lockheed and in russian arms manufcturers ;)
by the way, the planned invasion was on a schedule of 2025ish
I remember seeing something on this pre youtube during the 70s. Its really a footnote to that era, but Putler has used it to mouth off about the US, Nato and the West
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Its strange - for a nation that has been so hellbent on defeating communism, you would think they would care a little bit more about shutting down the communist revolutionary factions before they dismantled the empire.
In fact, there were a lot of private investor supporters from the US helping the Bolshevik party, the US most definitely could have done the easy intervention there - but did not.
Famous author Aleksander Solzhenitsyn goes into pretty good detail about this in one of his two-volume books that for some reason has not been allowed to be translated or sold in most of the western market
The US declaration of war had public and congressional opposition, not a Pearl Harbor moment. The US almost totally focused on the Western Front in WWI. After the Armistice nobody wanted to stay overseas longer than what appeared immediately necessary.
Which books are those?
That is US international politicas for you, if communism was so bad and inferior why even bothering intervening at all?
This war was for two purposes either we were just getting the troops and stores of ammo loaded for a bigger invasion that honestly should have happened according to Patton. Or, i mean its always possible that we were trying to tell Napolean that he was a pus and couldnt' keep his army together when we could keep it together north of where his adventures ended.
Was anyone keeping a close eye on whether woodrow wilson suddenly started driving a lamborghini at the same time this invasion was slowed and called back? Im sure that definitely wasnt' a factor either.
The thumbails on this guy's videos are looking more and more worried as time goes on, and hes talking about the time the USA invaded Russia. Should I be concerned?????
Stealing from one source is plagiarism. Stealing from multiple sources is called research. From a PhD I worked with.
Sounds like history repeats itself.
Woodrow Wilson personally signed Trotsky and Company's passport and supported Communist Revolution in order to oust the Tsar ( as WW1 facilitated the end of Royal rule throughout Europe)
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Roger dat
Canadians revolted in British Columbia when told they were to be deployed to Vladivostok.
When CANADIAN VOLUNTEERS wont go, you should rethink your war.
Yes Australia was involved - because Britain was
So History doesn’t repeat but it certainly rhymes…
San Francisco is a world class city. Stop pandering to your proud boy base with your subtle dig at it. I bet it's a lot better than their trailer park near Gary, Indiana.
>Invades *_Russia in winter_* while there's knee deep snow
>It goes so poorly as to be considered the worst foreign intervention ever
how many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man?
I only know about this because of an anime I watched 😂
Sauce?!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 I think know it but I forgot long time ago!😅🤣😂
you say or suggest that the reasons for US intervention were unclear (or at least some people felt that way), but you actually articulated many excellent reasons for the US intervention. for a relatively low cost investment of lives and treasure, had the US and others succeeded in returning the white russians to power and overthrowing the bolsheviks, history might have been very different. or maybe not - it is hard know, because russia is currently a US adversary but is much more like a white (imperial) russia than a bolshevik one.
Imperial Russia might be more powerful and dangerous. Or they might have lost ww2
I wonder if the Russians now know about this bit of Russian history?
Russian know about their well unlike western countries.
@@OSTemli is that what Putin told you?
We have long memories, and no pity.
@@ecchioni memories of millions people that were senselessly killed by the Tsars and the Soviets?
Although the American troops didn't take sides in the Civil War, the Bolsheviks presented this as a major invasion in which they fended of the enemies of the motherland and used this narrative in countless propaganda pieces, famous songs, films, etc. Actually no shot was fired between Americans and Red forces, they never even met, since Archangelsk and Vladivostok were far out of reach of the Red Army back than.
If a country is falling apart, don’t be surprised when others get involved to secure their own interests-the Ukraine is a great example.
It is, but it isn’t. The reason I say this is because of the mass hesitancy to supply aid to Ukraine. And officially French forces will soon be coming to Ukraine, which officially will be the first NATO forces on Ukrainian soil. But at the same time you are not wrong.
@@starwarsstuff8926 No one is going to fight for Ukraine. The best thing the country can possibly do is cut the losses and negotiate. It should have done two years ago.
But obviously you’re going to tel me that Ukraine is going to win! Well let’s wait and see…
@@maxbounce5736Did you apologise to Iraqis, yet? ;)
@@maxbounce5736 I will say that in my opinion, you are completely wrong. I do believe eventually, Ukraine will win this war. The reason Ukraine is not being supplied with much a currently is because they’re on their back foot and haven’t made any major breakthroughs. Along with dementia and public support around the world. Everybody’s waiting for the major breakthrough but it’s not gonna happen because Ukrainian needs more aid. And I 100% disagree with you that they should’ve cut your losses two years ago. That’s basically like saying (I’m going to assume you’re American, but correct me if I’m wrong) I, the revolutionary army of the United States, should’ve gave up after the first battle against Britain. I am a major Ukrainian supporter and I hope you also support Ukraine. Not only is it just another country maybe it is to you. But I am Ukrainian so it’s much more than just a country to me. I don’t know about yourself, but I keep myself very educated on the Ukraine war. And I don’t think hopefully I think realistically.
@@ldkbudda4176 damn, you got them there
Wilson was our 4th worst president.
Hilarious that the White House Spokesperson keeps saying the US does not intervene in foreign governments.
Just stop.
"Stupid Wars" - let's hope the U.S. doesn't repeat this mistake. I'm tired of the stupid wars my country starts.
Woodrow Wilson has been smiling in his grave for the past 3 years knowing he is no longer the worst president in US history.
George W Bush is the worst president in modern America history: No Child Left Behind, 9/11, Patriot Act, Started ICE, tax cuts on major corporations and billionaires, started two illegal wars, and 08 financial crisis to top it off.
In contrast, not only has Russia never invaded America, but they have either been our allies or even come to our rescue on a number of occasions.
1780 - Russia declares they will not permit meddling in the ongoing American revolution, protecting merchant shipping coming into the colonies, including that of French support for the revolution.
1862 - Russia sends its navy to protect against the Confederacy, gaining European allies against the Union. On numerous occasions, the Russian Navy repulses Confederate attacks against Union harbors and shipping.
1917 - We are on the same side of World War I.
1941 - We are on the same side of World War II. 80% of the fighting in the European theater takes place between the Russians, and the Germans not only protecting the rest of the world from further not the expansion, but also sparing millions of Americans their deaths of fighting Nazis, allowing America to battle Fascism better in North Africa, and especially the Pacific.
1975 - America and Russia begin working in space together for the good of all mankind in development of sciences and knowledge.
2004 - Russia and America join form a counterterrorism joint initiative together.
2009 - Russia permits American military planes to fly through Russian airspace to supply the Afghanistan War.
2013 - with the retirement of the space shuttle, all American astronauts going into space fly aboard Russian craft.
The Russians have done us no harm and mean us no harm.
I'm sorry, I am ignoring all that because the looneytoons cartoons tell me Russia is bad
That's some very selective reading of history. From 1945 to 1990 Russia and the United States fought proxy wars all over the world. Communist China is a threat to the US now precisely because the Russian's proxies in China defeated the American's proxies. The only reason that the whole world, including the United States is not ruled by communist dictatorships now is that the US spent vast amounts of blood and treasure fighting Russian communist imperialism all around the world.
Either you're very ignorant of Russia's duplicity or you're a Russian troll. Russia has instigated numerous conflicts and directly fought against Americans.
Russia started WWII as Germany's ally to seize half of Poland. After successfully concurring Poland, Hitter betrayed Stalin, and Russia was forced to switch sides. They were the enemy of our enemy; not an ally.
Russia colluded with China to start the Korean War. They provided arms and directly fought in the conflict. Most of the MIG's were flown by Russians.
In an attempt to address their embarrassing lose in Korea, Russia and China again conspired to start a conflict in Vietnam and directly fought against Americans.
America was forced to bring supplies through Pakistan because Russia refused to permit passage in the Afghanistan conflict.
Russia did ferry Americans to the ISS, but it was at extortion levels of costs. We have treated them much better, and this has been a rare exception of bi-lateral cooperation.
Your last claim is so ludicrous that no response is necessary.
@brianmead7556 partially true on WWII. In reality China and the Allies did most of the fighting against Imperial Japan while the Soviet Union waited until 7 August - 2 September 1945. So while the Western Allies fought in Africa, Pacific theater, Atlantic, and Western Europe. The Soviets focus was on Eastern Europe.
@@EDesigns_FLyou’re correct on your assumptions. brianmead7556 profile photo is proof he is a clueless, Russian sympathizing, troll.