Metal Gear's Future Without Kojima.
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Kojima was trying to get away from the metal gear series for a long time, he even received death threats when he announced he was leaving. Allow me to play devil's advocate here, what if kojimas firing was actually a plan to successfully get kojima away from Konami and in turn the metal gear series ? What if Konami decided they would be "The Boss", doing what was right in the long run but becoming the villain because of it?
Peak cinema plan
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Idk.. I actually think this falls apart when you realize he couldn't help but fill Death Stranding with Metal Gear elements.
Game 1, and he's making Metal Gear trailers for it full of Easter Eggs and nods.
Ds2 trailer comes out and it has factions and has Metal Gears in it that sing songs.
I think he may have felt kind of shackled to it at the time.. but he really isn't moving away from it. He may be trying, but he has not moved on and is struggling really hard trying not to make it another Metal Gear. I think dude was actually just fired and he's in his griefing stages still. 🤷 whether he knows it or not. It's like bringing up an ex during a new date.
I remember reading somewhere that MGS4 was supposed to be the last MGS game according to Kojima but Konami insisted that he make a fifth game. I think Kojima realise that if he stayed at Konami then this would be the the only series he would work on. The guy just wanted a new adventure creatively and he probably wasn’t going to get that at Konami.
Who knows maybe he had pitched the idea of Death Stranding years ago to Konami and they shot it down and just wanted him to make another MGS game.
@@sonofgotham3696 Yeah a reminder that Metal gear isn't entirely Kojima but him and a team to reign in his worst impulse. You see what happen when no one is there to tell him no
People be talking like they are Kojima. "Kojima is not coming back!". For me there's a little possibility, he's not angry at Konami. He literally said on record that he is grateful and thankful that KONAMI let him do what he wants. Only people are angry, give KONAMI some credit even just for reintroducing MGS to people. Kojima could come back anytime but not now, he's too busy.
BTW NICE VIDEO!
Kinda funny how you're wording this as if it's a awkward situation between friends and not a multi million dollar business. Not saying kojima can't come back, but if he does then the business decisions have changed.
It most definitely is possible will work with them again. Since he tweeted. Plus if a new CEO was hired he likely would. I'm sure he still has pride in Metal Gear to want to see it headed in the right direction
Kojima himself want it to leave the series since 2005
The legendary AmbatuPlay himself
That was just damage control the truth is hideo cuz she must started milking the franchise towards Konami he could have easily left the show after 2008
They closed Kojima's studio because he takes too much time and resources on projects, yes it was profitable in the end but probably took a while to make back the 80 million dollar budget for a game that took around 4 years or so to develop. I don't think they said they would never work with Kojima again, they just weren't going to give him a blank check and endless deadline.
I think the remake looks great, it should be fine without Kojima as long as they don't try to change the story, might even be better than if Kojima got involved honestly.
brainwashed☝
back then, kojima said, he would do something thats insane and that nobody ever did in the game industry. we never got to know what it was. then he left the company, and now we get a remake, after 9 years of coma. coincident?
I think he was talking about Death Stranding when he said something insane.
@@yourbarber6732I don't think it was that
I feel like death stranding is something that he's experimenting on
Not the delivery mission
but while playing the game I feel like he's trying a new mechanic idk what it is exactly
@@Spider10v Death Stranding was just him trying out a shared progression among players in a singleplayer game. It didn't turn out so good in the game, but then again, the game itself wasn't so good. But similar things have been done before well enough
There's an irony in certain Metal Gear fans habouring an animosity over events from 9 years ago.
Portable Ops and Ops+ were good, I like them.
MGS is bigger than Kojima.
More remakes please.
Mgs is nothing without kojima. Mg survive has proven that.
@@abradolflincler1563at the same time, Portable Ops 2 and Metal Gear Rising didn't have Kojima and they were good. It's possible to make good MGS games without him if they have the discernment to follow his blueprint.
@@abradolflincler1563Kojima cultist.
@@abradolflincler1563 Kojima is a legend when it comss to making video games but lets not say MGS cant be revived because he's gone
@@injusticejustice8973 Agreed, besides Kojima is not the only one who made MGS great, the rest of the staff involved in its development deserve credit too. Kojima had great ideas, but not all great ideas came from Kojima.
People are really going "if i can't be happy then nobody can!"
If I can play the twin snakes, I can definitely play this
For a remaster such as MGS delta, then I dont think it will make much difference if Kojima is involved or not.
As far as new releases, I will probably wait to see a few reviews before purchasing obviously. But I will also wait for reviews for Delta after the disaster release of the master collection lol.
In either case, I think MGS needs a new direction if they decide to make any new games, they should get away from the whole "Recruiting enemies" part of the game that was introduced in MPO and move more towards how MGS 1, 2, 3, and 4 are played where you play as Snake and sneak through the map with many ways of doing so. Im sure they can go back to that formula and change it up a little to keep things interesting (Buddy system, new cqc styles etc.)
If he comes back, he comes back.
Otherwise... chill.
Awesome video Jag!!
Issue: Konami does not care. Just look at Silent Hill. Pachinko is dying and video games' most valuable trait now is being apart of a known IP, which Konami has plenty of. That's not to say the people working on Metal Gear don't care for Metal Gear. So why the difference between the two? MGS has some original developers working on it and at Konami still. They don't have enough to actually make a game all on their own (they couldn't even do Master Collection alone) but they are there. Meanwhile, Team Silent was gotten rid of decades ago and are gone. Konami doesn't care. The people who made the games care. And that goes for everyone in the industry. No one cares the slightest about any game they didn't work on. That's why remakes are so bad, because they're almost always handled by people who didn't work on the original.
We need more metal gear solid games for new consoles new gamers are kids that’s don’t need a ps5 or ps4
That's why we're getting Master Collection. So that people can play Metal Gear Solid games. What do you mean by "kids that don't need a ps5 or ps4"? Like mobile ports?
I would rather respect Kojima's decision of going into a new direction of games rather than keeping his 30+ year old game running for so long. Kojima is an insanely talented person but he can only do and think of so much until the series he was building would begin to grow stale.
I bet they will get him as a consultant
Future Metal Gear remakes will still be good right? does anyone still feel faithful about the upcoming delta remake?
Remakes might because the base is there. MGS 3 remake tells the same story (God I hope so). So it should be good by writing standarts. If they don't x up the style of the game, that's a plus as well. If they port the gameplay from MGSV, that's a plus as well. So it might be good because of the already pulled in work. However I don't see how they are going to create new ones. Kojima was a visionnairy. He made the games after concepts like "meme" or "gene". Brought in Hollywood actors and style for cutscenes. Searched for suitable music.
Yes he was terrible at certain things, like being subtle. But without him there's just no soul in MGS.
Well said & great on the points.
The original msx metal gear needs to be remade - like a reimagined, massive version of it. Peace walker also needs to be remade
Honestly I’m really excited to play the remake. I want to get into the franchise of mgs but I also want to experience the older games so I’m not really sure where to start😅
I'm pretty sure he wanted others to work on MGS after 2 (possibly even after 1), he only kept working on it cause there was a demand. At least that's what I've been told.
The only thing I’m mad about is where’s the release date
There is no future, MGS is Kojimas game only. We can only hope they don't meddle with his art with the eventual remakes/remasters
eventhough several metal gear solid were not created by kojima...but still the very essence of MGS is associated well to Kojima becoz of he is the only person who could bring this game sequel to live. i have played mgs 1,2 3 and 4 for so many many times alread.. the craziest things is mgs 3... recently i used emulator to replay it... becoz it can be displayed in amazing graphics. Finished it for at least 50 times already. I can drscribe the fun of it..
Mgs 3 is undispute fun..while mgs 5 is totally superb and vast.
Kojima made this game. All their doing us updating graphics and mechanics. The story will stay in place and thats all I want them to do tbh.
If the MGS remake turns out to be good without Kojima, then give credit to the other developers that have worked on the past MGS games that nobody mentions.
MGS is not just Kojima.
I am so ready to hop back in the metal gear franchise. The top dog of the stealth genre.
Honestly, Kojima could've made DS less boring. I mean I get that his work on MGS was impressive but maybe MGS needs a change in direction. Phantom Pain was boring as well. No real story froms tart to finish. unfinished project and lots of other problems. I think despite the fact that Kojima is a legend, people need to stop making him the God of video game industry. From everything I have learned about Kojima, I believe his vision for today's gaming industry is getting a little old because he's so focused on metaphors, and meanings of video games than actually making a fun game to play. For example, in DS, his main selling point was what the game is about: "Making Connections" but through fedex delivery service. Not to put on his shoes but honestly, I think DS could've been a game where you could connect timelines. For example, creating paradoxes by fighting battles in the past to change the future. Something like that. But not just a boring game where there's almost no fighting, but deliverying packages. Sorry for the rambling but that's my two cents on this issue.
I think it was Konami's fault Kojima left cus they interfered with MGS5 making the last half feel rushed or unfinished
But I feel Konami is different now cus they even admitted the Master Collection was bad they said they are sorry and they are working on it the old Konami would never admit they made a mistake and they said they want us to keep them honest and they talk about Kojima kindly
100% agreed
Great video 👌
I'd agree, if Kojima endorsed this video... Just kidding, fair points all around.
One thing Konami doesn't seem to understand. I'm not dying on this hill. This hill is dying with me!
gimme a new direction with grey foxs ninja suit damn it D:
If kojima can come back to do a remake of metal gear solid peace walker I would be very happy
That’s the only MGS game I never played. Got the HD collection and been meaning to play it on there
@@Neo_Rain146 worth it , peace walker legit is absolutely amazing. That game 100% needs to be next after delta.
Good video
Isn't kojima still involved in the Metal Gear Solid movie?
I know nothing about that movie is certain but I know he has given input.
Dude that PW menu music was and still is such a basic but brilliant piece of music. Kept me in the menus quite a bit! Lol
I love metal gear solid games but personally and with everything that has happened in the gaming industry I would not be a 100% believer in this redemption arc I want to play metal gear solid delta but I won't until I see that the game is completely loyal to its roots and is not thirsty to please the "modern audience" just remember that konami like capcom are companies that in the end only want money and it is understandable, who doesn't?
You always have to doubt companies. We don't want another company that thinks it can do whatever it wants like Nintendo.
Konami new team could do remakes 1,2,3,4 but how to continue the story from mgs v, won't have the idea start mgs 6 where the story heading to
It has no future other than remakes
So here's how I see this, and I'm speaking as a lifelong fan of this series, started with MGS1 when I was 6 years old.
Personally, I think there's no possible way Kojima will ever go back to Konami after the sheer disrespect they dealt him. He produced arguably their most successful and beloved series and in the end as soon as they felt they didn't need him anymore they threw him out like trash. Konami doesn't deserve his return and I don't think he could ever be comfortable working there again.
That said, since a lot of the people he was beefing with are no longer at Konami (even the CEO is gone now) he may be open to contractual consulting work for them, perhaps assisting with the writing and story or overseeing the development of some new gameplay mechanics or letting them use a new engine of his.
If Konami asks for his help and he has the time and they're willing to pay him I can maybe see some light involvement from him but his days directing Metal Gear are over.
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I think the biggest problem is the fans itself, other person at KJP almost direct MGS4 but Kojima came back after Death Treats on the team.
As far i know Konami treat Kojima Poorly because the new CEO at the time made mobile games that make a lot of money and he didint like Kojima because of a debate between them back in 2010 before Peace Walker was release, so he put Kojima out, after all for him and others at Konami it is better to focus on Mobile games thsn Kojima becuase Kojima demands millions and milions more every year developing one game.
If i am not wrong P.T Silent Hills was release without Konami aproval, but i dont think this is true
Kojima might be tired of making new Metal Gear games, but it doesn't mean others can't do it in his place. The man's got a unique vision, no question there, but he's not the only one. It comes down to whether if someone can come close to match his vision, maybe even exceed it.
Like Final Fantasy for example, it's doing just fine even long after Sakaguchi's departure from Square Enix. Just because the original IP creator wants nothing more to do with their creation doesn't mean it's the end of the world for it.
I love what Kojima brought to the franchise but I like Portable Ops and Metal Gaer Riseing as well but people hate on them cus they are not made by Kojima
I am not personally interested in Delta till it has been out for a while so I can more easily afford to get it. I don't have a PS5, Xbox Series X/S, or a recent PC that can handle it. I can't justify over half a grand for mainly improved visuals. I see Delta as the same as TTS. Yet TTS gets lectured for being too close to MGS 1 with no big changes to how it plays, but Delta gets praised for being pretty much identical to MGS 3 with newer mechanics that it wasn't designed with like TTS.
bruh producer of delta literally said he wants to work to with Kojima if Kojima dont wanna make metal gear, exactly what should konami do ? use Yakuza?
This is just a remastered game, it's not like their making a new adventure or story.
Metal Gear doesn't necessarily need Kojima. Someone else can give it a shot. I didn't really even like Death Stranding.
Kojima made metal gear what it is. Konami may own the IP etc. But look at konami's track record. The main reapectable game was Rising and that was Platinum Games.
Metal Gear is like football, you can be considered a “hardcore fan” without ever having played it 🤷♂️
I'm not angry. But unless sorry is 1:1 with improved presentation, only Kojima can understand this particular brand.
They Cannot Make A "New" Modern Metal Gear Game. That Would Be Like Looking At Nikola Tesla's Notes, & Attempting To Pick Up Where He Left Off, & Making New Profound Inventions. NOT LIKELY. LOL 😂
Im one of those, but I dont have a problem with remakes, is new material what worries me, I dont think they will have the balls to continue in the same line, but we will see. Btw I thought it was well known what konami did while he was working and why.
nope i wont be playing this. i love metal gear but with how cocknami treated kojima and us fans, i refuse to give them anythin
although the game looks really nice, i think konami should make this game in a way like how kojima made the MGS franchise. the remake lacks the cinematic feels of the original game. that's why kojima fans are not so on board with this.
I get why people would be pissed at Konami as they didn’t treat kojima very well on the way out and also released that money grab dumpster fire MGS Survive to cash in on the MGS brand but when it comes to this remake I’ll keep an open mind. The MGS was my favorite series growing up and if this is done well and honors the original then it’s worth playing. I just wouldn’t support any new MGS titles that seek to expand story as there is no MGS universe without Kojima’s imagination.
Remake metal gear 1 and metal gear 2 solid snake
The remake is literally just a 1 to 1 reskin make, its pathetic.
Metal gear is not applicable in konamis hands I dont care how far you argue it the story was built and framed from an early 90s to late 2000s vision specifically tied to kojima.
If you think a remaster in konami's hands has half the original identity, premise, and themes without kojima you're just coping, forgetting with how badly konami treated kojima around the time of mgsV and why that specific reason is tied to mgsV being an incomplete mess when konami forced kojima out and retconned half the game and story...
Im sure you all remember metal gear survive but perhaps you dont...
Dont be fooled stop supporting konami its not just about kojima but the idea that youre supporting the idea publishers can do whatever they want with no responsibility.
without kojima is ok but why making the same thing like he did 20 years ago? idk man
Excellent video. The MGS community is so annoying and limited, they can't see the bigger picture even when things are going for the right way.
Honestly, if i was Kojima i would genuinely be ashamed of these people that are using my own name to trash talk at the projects of others. Kojima himself said multiple times that he didn't want to work with Metal Gear anymore since MGS2, so SINCE THEN the franchise should've been at the hands of others, these people are just so out of their minds to the point where they even sent DEATH THREATS to him, because they wanted MGS4. 🤦🏻
If you like Kojima that much, WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT THE GAMES HE'S MAKING RIGHT NOW?! Bro he's working at 3 major projects, one of them even being the spiritual successor of Metal Gear, so dude, why do you keep bitching around just because he's not involved with the franchise anymore? Honestly, KONAMI said everything she could to earn back the trust of the fans, if these people have not yet accepted the situation, then they will never.
What's funny is that if Kojima were to actually return, there is a high chance that he would want to add or change some stuff that would end up making the whole experience different or maybe even detrimental.
U cant compare capcom to konami capcom even on thier crap state they still do what fan want and released to all or alot of platform but konami game away exclusive many times that why some ppl call konami it a b1tch by not talked to justice about kojima
It's a 1 to 1 recreation.. So it's cool.. Same game , just newer graphics. It's basically a glorified remaster
If Resident Evil can thrive without Mikami, I think MGS can do it too
No one need Kojima. Fanboys are pathetic acting as if the world is empty of other great developpers
Portable Ops and MGR both show you can get good Metal Gear games without Kojima. The problem with why it's harder to do that now, isn't because Kojima is gone. Because Kojima couldn't make good Metal Gear games later on either for the same reason. MGS4 was the ending. Metal Gear is over and done. And remakes aren't the answer either. 99% of video game remakes are terrible. The few examples of good remakes are always remakes made by the original creator, because the original creator is the only one who can respect the work that went into the game. Look at every Bluepoint remake/remaster. Developers do not respect something they themselves didn't work on. They feel they have to make THEIR version of that game rather than an improved version of someone else's vision. We can already see that with MGS3R with the lack of any artstyle. "oH bUt ThErE's A fIlTer" and it looks terrible. MGS3 was not simply throwing a filter over a game and calling it a day, it's not that simple. Same as why Demon's Souls remake's filter doesn't work either.
The best thing any game series can get isn't a remake or a remaster. It's preservation. There's a reason remakes of paintings, movies, etc all get scrutanized rightly so and have their originals remembered. Gamers want video games to be recognized as art, as it is, but only because they want their hobby to be recognized. But those same gamers don't treat video games like art either, they still only treat it like a product.
so far the only problem i have is that The Boss looks like Carrot Top
"Kojesus" is a hackfraud these days
Cope
Metal Gear without Kojima is like Star Wars without George Lucas. It just doesn't work. It's not that everything they bring on table is a flawless masterpiece. The prequel trilogy was divisive as all hell and not everyone loves MGS V(which ironically was also part of a prequel trilogy) and Death Stranding. But the thing is their vision can't be replicated by anyone else. There is a good reason why everyone hated MG Survive but MGS 3 "Remake" has a lot of good will with it. Because it doesn't try to continue the story of the franchise, it just retells the same story that Kojima told 20 years ago. All the examples that you provided are spin-offs not mainline entries and none of them comes close to Kojima-directed games. So i don't think Konami will continue the story, instead they will concenterate on making remake/remastered games which is a good thing imo.
Konami does not need Kojima his last games MG 4,5 and Death Stranding were total trash
Metal gear survive is actually pretty good
Yeah but sometimes it can be boring easily since once you finish it there's nothing left on endgame
Original Snake looked like Christopher Walken.
Delta Snake looks like Bon Jovi.
Kojima is not a good storyteller. There, it needed to be said. The stories for his last two games were nonsensical. I was embarrassed to even sit in front of the TV watching the phantom pain and death stranding. The trailer for Death stranding 2 is ridiculous. His game designs and Innovative (though not quite complete) game systems are enough to deal with these lousy stories, but he offends me with those stupid plots.
No! Listen It's not time to move on, And I think you're failing to understand the reason why some fans are upset, I'm not upset That kajima is not making this game, He didn't move on He was fired, There's a couple of times in your video where you said he left the company He didn't leave he was forced out, But that's whatever I'm upset Because he deserves credit, Konami Did not invent this game They may own the IP and they can make as many metal gear games as they wish But Kajima Deserves credit Every single time they do With a created by hideo kajima Tag I don't want it buried in the credits I want it I want it upfrontupfront It's the same crap they did When they released 5They buried his name, It's like taking more to the rings And not once mentioning JRR Tolkien The creator Deserves credit! And as a fan I will defend his credit, I'm not interested in a metal gear solid 3 remake I think the original still holds up on it's own Just because you paint it with fancy graphics And maybe some new mechanics That will probably upset the balance of the whole game Is it much of much of a selling point on me But I will not support a company That does not give it's creator Credit, All this is a giant Cash grab It's very obvious I don't support this So no I won't be moving on He is the creator of this game He deserves more credit Then he is getting My opinion Konami wants to sell this game Better to holder fans They would have least tried to reach out to him and get his involvement not in the creating process not making the game But just support And putting his name front and center, I'm happy David haters getting work He's a great talent But he's not a good enough selling point for me Kajima Deserves All the credit
We didn’t need kojima he didn’t want to make metal gear anymore for a long time, went over budget and put things in his game for shock value but ended up not doing nothing and look where it got him paid out and making boring games with Sony kojima is overrated he should have stayed in his place and kept going but when you’re one of the highest paid video game creators you tend to get a big head about it look at Todd Howard I’m glad metal gear is coming back if it was still in his hands we would’ve had never gotten another one until Konami gave him a billion dollars just to get off his butt but hey at least it’s over now he’s making boring walking games and David Hayter is back as Snake
well its your opinion and I respect it..but it doesn't mean its the thruth
Your lack of punctuation has fried my brain. Have you not heard of full stops? Can't be expecting people to read that essay of yours with zero full stops, man
@@shush97 don’t care and you still read it so shut up
@@shush97 skill issue
he was texting a minor
Lmfao that what I thought happened too, given the recent events to a certain streamer.