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- ABC News' Michael Strahan sits down with John Oates to talk about his feud with Daryl Hall as the legendary music duo face off in court.
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Why not offer Hall the opportunity to buy him out!
Cost would be too high I would guess. There back catalogue is huge
The interviewer should have asked that….
agreed. I highly doubt hall could afford to purchase it. and hall probably knows this. so why is hall raising a big stink about it? I think these 2 probably hate each other. which is not at all uncommon. for some reason, people think bands and artist duo/trio's are like family. their not.
And i can't see how u sell only half of something that still has the partner in it? Like u can't sell the music with only Oates voice parts or videos with Hall blacked out etc .lol
@@wasatchm good manners I think. If you’re in a partnership then it should be discussed. Perhaps Hall would also have sold and potentially gained a higher overall price. I would be pissed off if I have ran a business for over 40 years only to find out my partner had sold out without me knowing. So moving forward I would think Hall will need to speak about using the music in advert etc for the new partner to realise some profit
If he wanted to sell, first person he should have called Hall and offered it to him.
There is something else in this.
Reading through the comments, and I'm remembering what I saw a few years ago from Daryl Hall, and I remember the disappointment I felt seeing him say the things he was saying.
And basically what he was saying, was the same thing John Oates is saying here. That their "brotherhood" is an illusion, their partnership is strictly business. And I remember hearing him say this, and thinking, well that's a shame. I can't point you to the interview in question, but it was years ago.
He was basically saying Hall & Oates is just a corporation now, their personal relationship was almost non-existent.
So NOW I can see why John Oates didn't bother saying anything to him.
Because their friendship has been dead for years. And it's Daryl Hall to my recollection that first started saying this to everyone. Not John Oates.
Did he give Hall the right of first refusal? That would have been the way to treat a partner of 50-years.
Exactly!
Yes, that was my first thought
That would be ideal. the question is, is it legal?
Oates never said he offered "Hall" the 50% of the partner share. Obviously he did not and hence the lawsuit.
He didn’t want Hall to know he was thinking of selling. In Oates defense, Hall is well known for being an a-hole, so he probably assumed that Hall would attempt to legally block him from selling. Which is what happened in the end anyway. There really isn’t any reason to not sell. Other than control. Many artists are doing it, once they know their hit making days are long over.
I worked backstage for 2 H&O concerts a few years ago. For both shows, John was there most of the day, working to make sure everything was just right. Daryl showed up shortly before he needed to be on stage. I never saw them speak to each other. It was sad to see.
You are 100% correct Daryl is a primadonna. I worked for them for a few years Daryl never made sound check.
@@katoosh1 Is it true only one of them gets $$$ from the merch sold at concerts?
@@katoosh1I’m a musician myself and to hear that Daryll never did a soundcheck is really shocking , that’s obligatory to make sure everyone and everything sounds just right for the venue.
Hall comes across as arrogant....super size ego. I saw him on an interview about this lawsuit and when interviewer said something about him suing his creative parter(Oats) Hall corrected him and said BUSSINES partner. I guess he was saying he is the one with the talent.
Money destroys a lot of beautiful things.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 If money didn't exist, would this be happening?
@@phaedrussmith1949 What do you think you're saying? You're sidestepping everything about their decades-long partnership and choosing to focus on money as though that's THE issue when it's a symptom/scapegoat for other problems, and clearly isn't the root of anything. The OWNERSHIP itself is a much bigger deal than just 'the money', but people like you only know how to spout goofy little slogans that you heard from people who have real ideas.
@@jamescarter3196 I see your an Internet arguer. In that regard my answer now to you is that I don't care about you, what you've said, your attempts at rhetoric or anything else about you, your thoughts or anything you've ever said or done and I likewise have no interest in arguing, debating, or speaking with you.
Lol..How was Hall and Oates beautiful? SMH
They earned their money, there is nothing wrong with having money
In Hawaii, I played bass for John Oats at a small concert and found him to be a very nice guy, as well as an impressive vocalist.
Notice you said "genuine nice guy" but not "as vocally talented as Daryl Hall."
@@jdmarr2259 John is also vocally talented. Just different than Daryl.
@@jdmarr2259 Notice you said "vocally talented" but didn't say "a genuine nice guy as John Oates"
In Montana I once pumped gas for Charles Nelson Riley😂
@@kenhobbs9251, was he a genuinely nice guy?
1994 I was starting a business and considering a partnership and the one thing my lawyer couldn't stress enough was - 99% of all partnerships end up in court...
My mentor is a successful composer/songwriter, and he says that in addition to a songwriter split sheet/royalty agreement, he always draws up a collaboration agreement for every collaboration.
Best advice! I had to take a law class back in the day in the early 90s and our professor's first words out of her mouth were that business partnerships are bad and that we should stay clear of them. I didn't take her advice unfortunately and lost a friend over it. I also saw other friendships destroyed all because of money and control. It's so sad. It's not worth it in the end.
From what I recall, and what I've looked for, Daryl Hall has been saying they're not partners for years. And in any interview discussing Hall & Oates, Daryl Hall makes as much effort as possible to dissuade the public that they're friends, and implores their relationship is strictly business.
And in one interview calls it like it is. OCTOBER 2022
"We’re very different personalities. One of the reasons we became friends is somehow in spite of being opposites we get along. I’m such an aggressive person and he is not. He’s a very passive, laissez-faire kind of guy and it serves him well. I think that perhaps he leads a happier life than mine because of it - certainly a less tempestuous life than I’ve lived, so it’s good for him."
Hall took out a restraining order on a passive, laissez-faire kind of guy, who says in this interview that the partnership was giving him a headache and stressing him out, so he just wanted out of it by selling his portion of it.
The person that turned it into a drama, is the person who has a very tempestuous life.
Totally true stay away from partnership including marriage lol
@@sammyvh11 LOL!
After hearing this little snippet of John's new solo album, I'd say he probably shouldn't have burned that bridge with Daryl.
Neither of them needs to work, and neither of them has had a hit in decades. You're just one more person with a bonehead-level idea of what 'musical partnerships' are.
@@jamescarter3196 The song sucks.
😂
@@harrycrowe7557😆😆😆 damn that’s harsh
Daryl was, and will continue to be the “voice” of Hall & Oats. He was the real talent, and didn’t really need John to be successful. He could have been successful as a solo artist from the beginning, and I think John knows this deep down. Still a shame they couldn’t patch things up between them.
Mannnn, I hate this! I saw Hall and Oates in concert 20+ years ago. It was by far one of THEEEE best concerts that I’ve ever attended.
Met them at a party after a show in Minneapolis back in the 70's. I don't remember much of the conversation (it was the 70's), but John was super nice to me.
All good things must come to an end
I saw them in the early nineties and thought they were the best band I had ever seen. Fast forward, and I had the opportunity to see them again about three or four years ago---- and they just weren't the same. Daryl Hall had pretty much lost his voice and I went away thinking----time for these guys to hang it up!
Saw them in 2018, amazing show.
Strahan: “Jon Oaths of Hall and Oaths”
It’s the teeth gap😂
😂😂
Lol
I still can't believe he's a broadcaster on TV lol
@Pango5697 The Teeth 😬 is his TRADEMARK! 😁🤣
It breaks my heart that they’re feuding. I’ve been following these guys since I was in high school in the 70’s!
Breaks your heart? Lol. WTF is WRONG with you?
Why do you waste your time commenting on other people’s comments with hatred? Get that anger out of your soul and leave these people alone. Grow up.
@@doobiewonkanooby As my friend's Chinese mother says, Hoo keh?
It’s clear that Hall does not regard Oates as his musical equal. Likely believes so because he became more popular doing those concerts at his house with many big name musical talents. And that he was the lead singer of their hit songs. It only enlarged his ego. In every interview Hall comes off as smug and arrogant. Oates is a humble guy and down to earth.
@@JohnDoe-lt3hi Actually it seems like Oates is bitter and resentful and has some issues with Hall. He should have at least gave Hall right of first refusal on the sale. That would have been the way to treat a partner of 50-years. Both should be appreciative of what each did for the other.
Oates is the prick in this scenario. He pulled a passive-aggressive move and it blew up in his face. #1) He COULD have informed Hall of his intention to sell off within a set time frame. A courtesy, but also works unofficially as a right of first refusal. #2) Oates already knew that Primary Wave (the buyer) was detested by Hall as they bought some of their rights 16 years ago and Hall regretted that. So, not just a matter of selling, but selling to "them."
Exactly and sitting there acting as if he’s in the right.
John Oates says: "Daryl Hall performed our songs without paying me royalties and -- I Can't Go For That". 😆
No can fucking do.👐
@@nathueil1He “did it in a minute.”
So he is out of touch and your out of time right 😂
@@thetruth1862 Right!
That's not the way it works. You don't get royalties for performances of songs. Venues pay a general ASCAP fee which covers that. You think every bar band is paying royalties to the songwriters
Interviewer: "Did you try to sell your half of the band behind Hall's back?"
Oates: "Yes, and I'll tell you why I did: cuz I felt like it."
Ohhh, well, now I understand completely! - That changes everything!
I mean, it all depends if this was really his right to sell it. If he wants to, why not? I can understand at his age just wanting the money and leaving the business aspects behind. Hard to really draw a conclusion or pick a side when we only hear one side of the story. Bummer either way.
It's his right to sell whatever is his to whomever.
What a sad ending .
Learned NOTHING from this interview
Who learned nothing?
You learned that John Oates could play an older Charles Manson in a biopic.
@@peterc4056 😂😂😂
Contract disputes as joint owners of the publishing for their compositions. In fact such ownership usually includes two parts: writers share and publishers share. Decisions have to be agreed to by BOTH parties. One cannot make an executive decision without the other's yay or nay.
Daryl Hall has been releasing solo music for years, while including his hits with Oates as art of his solo act (during live shows, for example). Some situations may not have been to Oates liking so he was tired of having to iron legal issues with his creative partner. So, he is pushing for a separation and dissolution of the publishing partnership so Hall can keep pursuing his solo work and Oates can focus on his own.
He should have told Daryl; wonder who the "certain third party" was? If it was Hipgnosis, they're pretty much dead in the water and have been bought out by Blackrock affiliated holdings.
@@peterc4056
I see it now. 🫡
Sad to see that both of them, who were so famous back in the day making music, are now separating from each other, even in their old age.
ESPECIALLY at this (final) Stage in Life!!!!
He stabbed Daryk in the back. What did he expect?! His argument is underhanded.
How exactly did he stab him in the back? What’s Hall’s beef?
@@kdbwiz They had an agreement about these things. John ignored the agreement that stipulated the terms of such sales, didn't tell Daryl of his plans at all. Daryl found out from a 3rd party. Daryl did the lion's share of the work all these years, and this is what happened. A real slap in the face. And you can see John being evasive about this at the start of the interview.
I am such a fan of these men. It breaks my heart that it has come to this…..🥺
Breaks your heart? Lol..WTF is WRONG with you?
@@BAKER22-l4u lol
A fan of these or a fan of these MEN? Because I doubt ANY of us know them as men.
1st answer was weird... (are Hall & Oates ever gonna perform together again?) *_"Not from my point of view, but you'd have to ask him"_* ???? huh??? if you say NO, then it's NO, right?? or does Daryl's YES somehow override your NO.... 👉🤪👈
Y'alls music was a very big part of my life. I'm now a 71 year old widow that still enjoys your music from a time gone by and I also enjoy your music of today. God bless you and your family and your music 🎶
👑🙏💞✝️🐾🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯
They won't see your comment
@@AhtoNajeebRashied
Why would you enjoy ruining an old widow's joy?
NOT TODAY OR TOMORROW SATAN! In the name of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, you have been rebuked 👑🙏💞✝️🐾🕯
@@maxinemcelroy8902I second that! As a 40 something year old man. The artists can do what they want, but the art remains.
”Y’all’s”
This is how a top Hollywood management team promotes a name client. Books basically an infomercial for Oate's new album release under the guise of a "fallout" interview where he basically says "I don't think it's a big deal and there's no fallout from me so let's move on plugging my album", then has abc play half the Hall and Oates hits to acquaint new fans to his old hits, then plug the new album complete with setup questions like "What can we expect from the new album?". I guess Hall will wait until his new album release for the response video and informercial.
Exactly lol
Bingo!
based
Textbook! Chaa-ching!
Sounds about right.
I was in high school in the early 80’s when they had all those great hits. They were my go to band along with The Police. This is sad to see both men now in their 70’s bickering like this.
If they do a charles manson movie, you’ve got him casted.
Right? Perfect.
LMAO 😂
Should have discussed it first.
Lol...Let us know when you LEAVE FANTASY LAND
It sounds like there weren't a whole lot of opportunities for discussion, and if you asked me to guess, I would say that Daryl was the one who was "Out of Touch."
Did you listen to him?? They are not best buds, they've done nothing new together in decades and they've done a few concerts of the hits. What he described is common in business. Oates strikes me as the down to earth one of the two, just IMO.
@@danc3693still should have discussed it first.
He should have given Hall the courtesy to let him know…. No one is a winner from this situation. Let go of the ego
@@1blessedchick37 i still think letting Hall know is not an obligation for him to sell his half cheaply. At least he did his bit and not blindsided him. Anyway, hope they will sort it out. They both did great music together.
@@1blessedchick37 Even if it had been cheaper, it would have been more honorable. Honor...I know I might be mocked for that. But there is plenty of money to go around for them both. It is just really sad.
Please reread my comment. I thought I was very fair and balanced. And everything people do everyday has everything to do with honor. I did not say anything about "owing" anything, including jack. No one, including you or me, knows the whole story. Really only the two of them do. In any case, just because someone has the right to do something does not mean it is the right thing to do. Here endeth my participation in this thread. @@1blessedchick37
He should have let Hall first crack at buying Oats half first.
I can understand not wanting to deal with a third partner.
what a great duo saw them play hammersmith palais about 22 years ago it was like putting a record on great voices can only imagine how good they were in the 1980s everything in life comes to an end but they certainly gave millions great music that they can be proud of
Offer your rights to Daryl and negotiate a reasonable price and move on. This type of airing your dirty laundry in the public forum is not the best way to solve differences.
First concert I ever went to in 6th grade (H20 Tour). This is sad to see.
Your parents sound quite liberal if they were letting you go to a rock concert at such a young age.
@@alukuhito I went even younger than that to see them. We are talking very tame stuff.
@@abertasso1298 I guess you don't know parents like mine. "Having fun" was frowned upon if it happened outside of certain limits. Going to a rock concert, no matter how tame, would be a big no-no until at least 16. Even then it would be like an inquisition. You'd have to state your case and show that everything would be OK.
Sporting the Charlie Manson look😂😂😂
😅 hahaha!!
Great Band - Come to a Fair Understanding & Business Deal. Best Wishes to Both Hall & Oates. Thank you both for the Legendary Music❤.
Oates New Music Sounds Great.
He's 76 and Hall is 77. I hope this doesn't jeopardize their future.
😂
😜
🤣
😂😂😂
Its about trust fund great grandchildren now.
Say it isn't so.
I can't go for that (no can do)
😅😂😂
I would love to see a Hall and Oates film spanning their entire lives. Such interesting content. Love these guys!
The latest Simon and Garfunkel.
The big difference is Garfunkel didn’t write the music but was the main voice so there shouldn’t be any dispute if Simon decides to cash in on the catalog. 6:16
Nonsense. Hall and Oates worked together for more than 40 years. Simon and Garfunkel did not come close to that.
@@Tank4Life I'm not saying this is an identical comparison. I'm saying it's just another musical partnership of two men who appeared to be best buddies who actually aren't.
Bridge over very troubled waters
I think people are forgetting (even I forgot this until I saw it mentioned in comments below)
Daryl Hall has given me the impression for at least the past ten years, that John Oates and he ain't friends, they're business partners. Anything we think about their relationship is incorrect, it was never truly that way.
Am I wrong about this? I don't think I am. I'm pretty sure I've seen Hall sweep Hall & Oates under the rug as a close, lifelong tie beyond blood, and instead paint a picture of two men who met, who are business partners. It's advertised as "brothers" for disclaimer purposes, but very much so is it advertised as a business arrangement.
So John Oates selling his shares of that partnership because he doesn't want to be part of it anymore, is absolutely within his rights. He doesn't have to confer with anyone, or anything first before doing so. If he does, its merely a courtesy to any other person, whether involved directly or non-directly with the sale. That's his half of the partnership to do with whatever he wants. If it was feared a third party may gain control of that half, then they should have put in place a pre-condition of no sale to outside parties. But I don't see why you would do that with someone you call a brother.
If my partner is talking about our partnership like it's strictly business and no pleasure, and that the relationship we have is not how people see it, why would I bother to tell them my decision. It's business. Not friendship. And my recall is saying Daryl Hall stopped saying John Oates was his friend MANY YEARS AGO. And I think this is why John Oates didn't bother telling him about the sale. Because Daryl Hall wiped his hands of any friendship long before any sale.
I'm trying to find what Daryl Hall has said before this sale ever went ahead
OCTOBER 2022
On his relationship with John Oates
Daryl Hall: We were friends first. He was the guitarist in the band and I was the singer. We were just getting out of school, and we said 'Why don't we try sharing the stage together?' As two individuals. And it's really all about that. So that's how it went.
We’re very different personalities. One of the reasons we became friends is somehow in spite of being opposites we get along. I’m such an aggressive person and he is not. He’s a very passive, laissez-faire kind of guy and it serves him well. I think that perhaps he leads a happier life than mine because of it - certainly a less tempestuous life than I’ve lived, so it’s good for him.
The truth is, we never really wrote together. We would write together, occasionally. But not that often. It was more separately. And I write a lot more.
The balance began to shift, and it became more and more my songs. And John began to be more in the background. And that's what we're all about. And we're very comfortable. We both feel comfortable in it as far as the Hall & Oates thing goes. It's a comfortable situation. It just worked out that way.
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"I’m such an aggressive person and he is not. He’s a very passive, laissez-faire kind of guy and it serves him well."
I think right there is telling you why this went down that way. And the person being called the villain, is not in line with the character Daryl Hall previously portrayed him to be. Hall is the aggressor. If we believe him in assessment about himself.
SEPT 2022
I can't read the full article
Daryl Hall seemed to break comedian Bill Maher’s heart a little when the singer revealed that his relationship with his longtime collaborator John Oates might not be what it seems.
During an episode of the podcast “Club Random with Bill Maher,” Hall was adamant that Oates was not his partner.
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And I'm pretty sure that would be a reason you wouldn't tell the dude you want out of the partnership.
MARCH 2022
When will there be a new Daryl Hall and John Oates record?
Well, that’s inappropriate to this conversation. But I have no idea. I don’t have any plans to work with John. I mean, whatever. Time will tell.
That’s surprising. I’ve seen recent stories where you said the two of you were working on a record together.
That was before the pandemic. Perceptions changed, life changed, everything changed. I’m more interested in pursuing my own world. And so is John.
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Talk about distancing yourself from someone as far as you can get.
SEPTEMBER 2017
"Because we don't have anything to say together creatively. How's that?" Hall bluntly told the San Jose Mercury News.
"We exist for what we did together in the past," he added. "But as one grows up, one becomes more individualistic in one's life. When you are 20 years old, you need a buddy. When you're ... 70 years old, you don't need a buddy as bad. So what we do is work separately. And we're very happy about it."
The singer added, "We always wanted to be looked at as separate people ... It's just one of those things. For the most part, people do relate to us as individual artists as well as for what we do together."
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From just this brief overview, every time Daryl Hall has had a chance to speak about his relationship with John Oates, he is going out of his way to distance himself from the man on any personal level, and keep things strictly business.
So I'm not sure why he feels betrayed in their friendship. Because he's on record saying for years they don't have one.
And no matter what Daryl Hall says about that partnership and its "equality", John Oates gave Hall & Oates their most successful song. "Maneater." It stayed on the charts longer than any of their other number 1 hits.
Greed destroys EVERYTHING
Two rock stars fighting over millions while millions of their fans struggle to get by. Talk about being tone-deaf off stage.
EGO destroys everything!
I could never understand what this guy contributed to the product, aka Hall and Oates. It always seemed that the one with the voice and the looks was Hall. In all their videos, Oats is simply there to constantly interpose himself as a pesky distraction in front of the guy who was actually carrying the show.
Your observation might be spot on
Kind of uninformed there. Oates is a songwriter
Hurts my heart; one of my favorite groups EVER!!
And I was just listening to their music..wow how sad great music duo.
I think John is pretty lucky to have been in a band with Daryl Hall...there is no comparison...talent wise.
If I remember correctly, one of their biggest hits was "Maneater."
That song came from John Oates.
@@DrTomoculus and if John Oates had sung it, it wouldn't have been a hit.
@@jdmarr2259 Writing is more difficult than singing. Singing is something you're (for the most part) born with, writing is something that takes years to hone.
@@jdmarr2259 It's actually their biggest hit. It was more successful than the number 1 hits that preceded it. It's kinda like Daryl Hall having a really good batting season, but Oates comes in with the season homerun that brings the championship home. They're a team right? I don't even like baseball but it's a good analogy. No matter what Hall put into that relationship, Oates gave it back. He just wrote less. That doesn't mean everything Hall writes is a hit either. My other posts in this video have gone back a few years where Daryl Hall downplays any friendship these two have, regards their relationship as business, but doesn't even consider them partners. Hall has been saying this for years now. That Oates sold his part in their partnership without any notification, is simply because Daryl Hall has been saying they're not partners, nor friends like we think they are, for many years now.
@@DrTomoculus Really nice sax solo. Heard it yesterday. Food idea for a song, Something about 'perfect jaguar" Much better in 70's than 80's.
WoW!!! “Reunion”!!!!! Jeeper’s!!! FABULOUS!!!
8 #1 songs! 💔I’m now 61 and love these men!
Hall doesn't NEED him
the ONLY REASON were playing together is that they weren't getting anywhere in the Philly scene with their own bands
but Hall is the WORDS, Oates is a PRODUCER
Interviewer: do you think Hall & Oates will ever perform together again?
Oates: I can't go for that, no can do
😂
I love these guys.....I wish them nothing but the best!
John Oates I loved the both of you guys. I played your music this morning. This is so sad that you guys can not work this out. ☹️
It’s just like most other relationships. You’re around each other for so long love gets pushed aside. Just ask the Beatles
Hall and Oates have been around for decades, not the Beatles. They were all still under 30 when they broke up.
I’m on Darryl’s side! He doesn’t want to turn on the TV and hear his music as background on a Bounty Paper Towel commercial!!! 🎶 Bounty’s makin’ my dreams come true! Ooh-ooh!! 🎶
I was always a tremendous fan of Hall and Oates. I saw them play live and also without back up, I always felt that John Oates was absolutely integral to the duo. He contributed equally to their music.
lololol
My favorite pop group alltime and had pleasure of seeing them perform a couple years ago. Absolute shame and I hope they can reconcile some day!
let Daryl purchase the music from you , and move on
thats what I was thinking
That’s what I was thinking!
Good interview by Michael Strahan. He showed respect for John and listened to what he had to say.
I understand where John Oates is at this point in his life. I hope you guys can somehow work this out. Everything shouldn't be about money. You heard Daryl he said he loves you like a bro. Please resolve this
before it's too late because we are here today and gone in a blink of an eye. You don't want something like this
hanging over you two. Sending you both Love & Light....Thanks for the great music you created together...
"he said he loves you like a bro" By the way John Oats described it, they never were. They were just music and business partners.
Im guessing Daryl Hall is like dont let the door hit ya.
It seems to me (unless I missed something) that IF you own one half of something and there is NOTHING in writing to stop you legally you SHOULD be able to sell your half to whoever you want. The only thing that would stop you is that you still have a legally binding contract with the labels who released the material in question, and your partner in writing can tell you NO.
Sorry John, contracts are always mired in legality. It's literally their purpose. If you don't understand the limitations of a contract, you should never sign it.
Had a friend who wondered why H&O didn’t sing country songs since he thought they were called Haulin’ Oats. 😂
😂 done a lotta Haulin’ dem boys😂😂😂
I find the name of his new album ironic.
John’s new album is AWESOME!!!
I think we know who had the most talent in the "duo."
Daryl certainly had vocal chops, no doubt. Arrangements and guitar chops, Oats was far superior (if you know music).
@@amybethhurst Still need a song, other wise you are only polishing and arranging a .......if you know music.
@@xxcelr8rs Uh-huh and John wrote some of their best songs but you don't know music
David Crosby and Nash can’t think of his first name hated each other for decades. Crosby died a year or two ago. They were just starting to be decent to each other. Hall & Oates needs to shake hands, whatever the crap is going on between them it’s called water under the bridge. One of you will be dead and you will regret not having made up that’s all I know.
Graham Nash
He can always tour with Garfunkel, Messina and Lisa
Two nice guys that wrote ànd performed some incredible music. I hope they have the wisdom to let their differences go.
Why didn't John speak to Daryl first?
Reading through the comments, and I'm remembering what I saw a few years ago from Daryl Hall, and I remember the disappointment I felt seeing him say the things he was saying.
And basically what he was saying, was the same thing John Oates is saying here. That their "brotherhood" is an illusion, their partnership is strictly business. And I remember hearing him say this, and thinking, well that's a shame. I can't point you to the interview in question, but it was years ago.
He was basically saying Hall & Oates is just a corporation now, their personal relationship was almost non-existent.
So NOW I can see why John Oates didn't bother saying anything to him.
Because their friendship has been dead for years. And it's Daryl Hall to my recollection that first started saying this to everyone. Not John Oates.
“He’s gone “. Could be a good song lyric
All good things must come to an end.....welcome to earth.
John’s been riding Daryl’s coattails since the 70s
Not true. The facts show your statement to be 100% false. Daryl himself said the number one reason they broke onto the music scene was John Oates wrote “She’s Gone” on his own, it became a huge hit and their career took off. They both wrote lots of their music. People always want to credit the “main singer”, who was Daryl, but they were co-collaborators on their music. No one rode the coattails of the other and neither of them has ever made that claim.
These are both very talented artists. But, both are almost 80 years old; at some point you just have to call it quits..
Enjoy, what they did together and now, for goodness sake enjoy life. There is so much more to life than making a record and going out touring..
Enjoy, the family and friends… life is just too short.
(And I used to be in music, and at one point my younger years I thought I
would always be involved in music.). I walked away over 24 years ago, and not looked back.
I realize everyone is different, but there is so much more in life. Being with family and good friends, that’s all that really matters.
You’re right they had success and they both should reflect back on their achievements and be proud. Time to call it quits.
Oates could play Charles Manson in a movie
Nah man Daryll would sue him if he tried that😂
Thanks for the fine interview.
Hey, John sounds pretty great in the new clips. Yes, siblings and family and friends change, fall out, move apart, move on. Might as well do so in peace and wishing each other well.
From Philly, been a fan since the beginning. From what I can see, Hall went out of his way to disrespect Oates in interviews. Can’t remember John EVER doing that. Hall’s voice definitely became their meal ticket. More power to them that they realized that and Oates was a big enough person to go along with it. Daryl’s ego is so totally out of control. I saw his solo show recently and, during the show, he was bitching about the monitors, couldn’t hear himself singing DURING THE SHOW! That’s what sound checks are for! I guess he felt he didn’t need to do that. Made him look like a jerk. I have lost all respect for Daryl Hall. Oates probably got sick of Hall’s belittling and said f him. I don’t blame him.
Ssssstrahan never even heard a Hall & Oates song before this interview.
No, he grew up on these tunes, that's why he asked to do the interview.
What a beautiful person
Met him at The Chicago Pavilion awhile back he handed my then young son his Christmas CD
MY SON NEVER FORGOT THAT JOHN!!❤
God Bless you in all you do ❤️
Hall without Oats is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes. He will never have another hit. Let the brother John Oates free.
and Harold Melvin treated that band horribly.
@@rondaallen7211 exactly
Teddy P sang all those songs, so I think it would be like "Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes without Teddy P." because they sure were nothing (globally-wise) without Teddy.
@@pillbug1657 they got another singer after Teddy. he was good too.
Hall without Oats is like Otis Day without the Knights 😅
Like Daryl's House really enjoy the music'
Looks like Charles Manson.
They need to bury the hatchet and do an album together before one of them passes away.
Daryl seems like a handful….always has.
I was staying in a hotel and asked where the dining area was for breakfast, the man said go down the Hall turn right and then you can eat your Oates !
SuperTalented Big Ego Daryl never gives Credit to what John Oates contributed their fantastic union. Neither will every achieve the peak of their popularity with their Solo Careers. Geez, the Guys are pushing 80. Take the money and enjoy what days you have left.
Daryl probably thinks the catalog is worth much more than what John can get for just his percentage of writing credits.
Also, Daryl may want to pass the publishing rights on to his children instead of cashing in on it now.
Either way John Oates should have had his lawyer(s) contact Daryl Hall(s) first to see if he was willing to go along with the deal first. 6:16
Daryl’s almost 80. His kid has some problems I think. Daryl Hall can not sell out Big Venues. Neither can John. Daryl has been putting John down in Interviews for years. Daryl Will sell. Also, read John’s book. He pissed through a fortune. He needs the dough.
Sad. But the music will live on.
Hall piping in with perfect musical timing…”I can’t go for that…no can do…” 😂
His voice is really awesome!
I remember hearing there new songs on the radio in the early early 80s
These men are absolutely legendary, what a sad story. Make up before it is too late..
Money changes everything and it’s no different when it comes to splitting a popular act.
I stand by John 100%. He should be able to do whatever he wants to w/ his half of things.
Despite the Recent troubles They made great Music. Both very talented musicians. I hope an outcome can be reached and they can both enjoy the rest of their lives.
I wish them both the best , and i hope they can get past this, there music was literally a soundtrack to my childhood.
Hopefully they can overcome whatever differences they have with each other. A lot of times you don’t get to say goodbye to the other person and express how you truly feel
I saw them at old Boston Garden late 80’s. They were visibly arguing the entire show. They OWNED the charts.
Swear to God, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was Charles Manson.
Same here
The Rolling Stones are a great source for learning about friendship
Hilarious that he thinks he was half of the operation. Hall GAVE him those rights as a gift. His excuse isn't even believable... he cared so little for the whole legacy (he was barely even a part of) that he had no problem offloading the rights with a shrug of the shoulders. Who does that with such an incredible catalogue!? Answer: no one. Hall (and a gal pal at the time) did EVERYTHING. Oates was nothing more than stage decoration. I would be surprised to discover his mic was ever even on. For most of the greatest hits, he contributed zero.. hell he wasn't even in the studio on many of the tracks, and was replaced by a competent musician. What arrogance. It must've been so hard for Daryl, for all those years, sharing the credit and spotlight with this 'extra actor'.
Has there ever been anyone in the history of popular music with so little talent who has benefited so much from others' inate talent?
Why didn't he offer to sell his half to Daryl? That would've been the question to ask.
Still have the classic hits
Watching from the State of Rhode Island-fan of H&O forever-wishing all the best to you Daryl-& John-for all the great vibes and music that you've brought us all for so long-PEACE ALL! 😇