@@jeffreycarpenter8048 I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Tacky is what I meant. Id rather my firearm not be a billboard. But I think you were just trying to be a jerk for attn more than anything. So there's that.
Within the last 3 months I had a Sig P320 XCompact slide cut for the Holosun 507C and also put 507Cs on the optic ready CZ P10S and P10F but they needed a mounting plate. I assumed the optic ready P365 XL would also need a mounting plate for the 507K but after watching your video I see that is not the case. Now I know what my next gun and red dot optic will be. 😁 Thank you! 👍
@@cheyenneobregon184 The "K" is for thinner, smaller (subcompact type) firearms like the 365 XL. The "C" is for full size and most compact size firearms.
I went with the Romeo Zero on my P365XL and no complaint. I have a 407K on another handgun. No complaints there either. I liked the 507, but just wanted to keep things as simple as possible.
@@rich1958 I wasn't talking about mounting. I just wanted a dot, that's all. I didn't want a circle and a dot or just a circle or a dot. Just a dot. That's all.
I am really interested in this optic for my Springfield Hellcat optics ready model. I'm a fan of green dots and circle with dot reticles. I'm glad you showed that the slide needs to be removed. i would probably have scratched my ass for a few minutes to figure out what what I was doing.
Thanks for sharing! Suggested for your next video is to shoot on a light background like a cream colored towel. The black gun, the black sight, and the black tool against the black background makes for more of a video that values your audio than any real "showing." Keep making the vids and best of luck!
I bought mine with the Romeo Zero…and I’m replacing the Zero with a 507…so good choice. That battery life with the need to remove the Zero to install the battery is a deal breaker for me.
@@mike34744 Love the XL! Have ~500 rounds thru it, very shootable for a small package. My trigger was 4.5 lbs out of the box, with a little break-in and MCarbo spring kit its about 3.5 now. Still waiting on a Holosun 507k....
Keep in mind its not 15lbs it is 15 inch LBS . Use a proper torque wrench like the wheeler fat wrench. Its 50k battery life on level 6 with just the 2moa dot and 10k battery life with cirlce/dot.
I didn’t sorry. I went and they didn’t allow recording at my range. Shoots great and has kept zero for over a year now though. Hopefully one day I can get some land at a reasonable price and go shooting on it.
In case anyone else came to this video hoping to see how to remove the sight screws because the little Allen wrench it comes with doesn’t cut it... Here’s what I did to get them loose: I went to the hardware store and got a set of impact wrench hex bits. I fit the 5/64 bit into a 1/4” socket and used my socket wrench to be able to apply pressure downward onto the screws (head of the socket wrench has plenty of real estate for that). The long handle of the socket wrench gave me plenty of torque to loosen them. Came right off after that.
The cheap little allen wrench that came with my Sig P365X was utter garbage and I didn't even attempt to use it when removing my sight plate when installing my Holosun 407k. For the amount of money we spend on these pistols you would think Sig Sauer could at least include a decent allen wrench.
one of the 2 screws on my p365 plate will not come off. The first one came right one but the 2nd feels like its welded in place. It wont budge at all..
do NOT use the bit from holosun to remove sig optic plate. find a t10 bit for a better fit to the sig factory screws, then use the holsun bit with holsun screws!
@@mike34744 I have a Romeo Zero on my 57 & I'm not a huge fan of it. I have Burris, Holosun or Trijicon on most of my stuff & that's the 3 brands I will probably stick with.
That's interesting. the screws that came with my holosun 507k are no where near small enough diameter to work. Yes there were 2 bags with a different size in each.
It could be the blue thread locker on them...i had trouble using their screws with a 507c on an Arisaka AR mount.... maybe try a couple times to get it in, then take them out and try and brush/peel off that nylon threadlocker, then use regular loctite on them
Ordered a 507K from Osage this morning. I initially was going to get the Romeo Zero, but I feel the 507k is a better choice for me. Looking forward to your review. Hope mine arrives Saturday since I opted for 2 day shipping.
Just sent my holosun 507c back for warranty. Won’t change reticals , I understand it’s 3 days old! Chasing the forums around, pretty common problem. When I get it back, it’s for sale!
I thought I had the same issue when I got mine. Turns out I held the + button for 3 seconds and locked in the settings. I couldn’t change anything and then realize what I did. Did you check that before you sent it out?
I am going to get my glock 43x milled for the 507k. Does this small optic co witness with regular sights? Is a rear sight necessary with the small built in one there?
It seems to co witness, but I’lll know for sure how accurate it is when I go to the range. I’m not sure how it’ll look if you leave the Glock rear sights considering it has built in rear sights. The ones built into the 507k will do just fine if the optic ever fails.
Kevin Tiemann I paid about $280 out the door. They always give me good pricing because I buy a lot from them. When it’s something that’s brand new and hard to find I don’t expect to get a big discount because supplies are very limited. I think the reason for not finding anything online might be the fact that their locations are so busy lately that they’re selling most the stock in store. I’d stop in if you can. They have 3 locations and have great customer service.
Your excellent video is very timely. I just ordered my Holosun 507K for my Sig P365 XL. Question: When one is sighting-in their Holosun 507K at what distance does the process begin?
I believe it comes already zeroed for 25 yards so I’d start with that and move closer or further. I adjusted the wrong direction when zeroing and it took me 300 rounds to get it back to zero. Overall it’s an amazing optic for the size.
I don't have mine yet, but have zeroed nine pistol optics now (three Holosun) and most of them were pretty close from the factory. You may find a slight change from one ammo to another. I usually zero mine at 10 yards (even on my competition set up), dot turned down to where I can barely see it and off hand, not from a rest.
@@mike34744 Have you shot a yet?. I mean it should shoot as good as the P365 Xl with the bigger grip. I installed the plus 2 kit and base plate from mag guts yesterday. The base plate is just a few mm bigger than the stock 12 round one. So now it's 14+1.
@@mike34744 Yup, way smaller. And only one round less. It looks soo much better than the 15 round magazine. I haven't tried it yet, but I've heard that the mag guts +2 is reliable. It's about $35 plus shipping. Not a bad price.
First time for concealed carry and red dot optic here. I really wanted the Trijicon SRO. However I will be purchasing this one because I heard the Romero is garbage.
Read the Manuel it came with or download it online. Basically a couple left or right clicks for wind age or elevation to zero it in. I’m horrible at Zeroing in and it took me a lot longer than it should’ve because I tried to do too many clicks the wrong way without reading the manual.
I tried to use the same kind of hex set you show in the video, a well as the one they include with the 365, but the dame screws are so tight the heads are striping out and they have not budged. I wish they would use something less prone to fail... but I guess that's asking to much for my $600.
I’ve heard that from a couple people. If it has any locktite on there heating it with a hair dryer will loosen it. I can’t remember if mine had it on there or not because I didn’t have that issue when I tried to take them out
If you have a soldering iron you can heat the screws by putting the tip of the soldering iron directly on each screw to break the bond of the loctite, that way you're not having to heat the entire slide and you're putting the heat exactly where it needs to be.
@@scottamy6496 good tip, but heat from a blow dryer won’t hurt anything in that slide and if it does, I’d rather find it that way than when I’m using it.
Waiting on mine from Optics planet as well.... they aren't always the quickest, but I have ordered a ton from them and they have always been great on warranty and returns.
Optics Planet said 2-3 week backorder when I ordered it, now at 8 weeks and no sign of it, not even an update. Crickets from Optics Planet.... But think it'll be worth the wait.
Just to let folks know I used a H2.0 bit to remove the sight plate. I believe this is the same as a 2mm hexagon bit. If anybody knows please confirm. I used my Wheeler precision micro set.
Thank you sir, this is exactly what I needed! Side note; does anyone know if it messes with the zero or damages the optic if you rack the slide by pushing back on the front of the red dot sight?
I’ve got the 407K on my 365XL. I don’t make a habit of it, but I’ve done it now and again and it’s been fine so far. Most reviews I’ve seen say it’s been pretty stable. The 507K is every bit as sturdy. I wouldn’t do it with something like the RomeoZero that’s made of polymer though. Holosuns are way more rugged.
@@Matrim42 hope you don't mind my asking but what is the difference between the 407 vs 507? Thanks for any help. Getting ready to buy one and trying to make my mind up.
@@donniegombel370 The big difference is that the 407 has a 6 MOA dot while the 507 has a 2 MOA dot and a 32 MOA ring that can be used in tandem or individually. Otherwise they are the exact same. I prefer the 6 MOA dot for pistols, and the 407 is less expensive, so it was a no brainer for me. Some people really like having a ring reticle, so if that’s your thing it might be worth the extra $80 or so.
@@Matrim42 thank you very much my friend. That's perfect. 507 for my son's .45 gift I'm putting together. Hope the best for you and your loved ones in these trying times.
Went to Optics Planet to order the Holosun but said it was discontinued by the manufacturer. Do you know if there was a change in model or another red dot other than the plastic Romeo optic?
Do you have to sacrifice having backup irons when running this sight? I know the Romeo Zero is an inferior optic but if it allows for cowitness and this one doesn't that's a tough choice for me for a carry gun
Mine weren’t that tight. I did take them off once before to see how the Romeo Zero looked so maybe they were a little easier, but either way they were never that tight. Do yours have Loctite? If so heat it and it’ll be easier.
If you’re not looking to carry and don’t have to worry about concealing it something like a p320, Glock 19, or M&P sized handgun would be great because they’re a little easier to shoot. If you’re looking to carry it the Glock 43/43x, P365/365xl, M&P Shield. If the gym is a little bigger it helps to minimize recoil, but 9mm doesn’t have a lot of recoil either way. There’s so many good options for handguns and you can’t go wrong with a 364.
@@mike34744 I concur! As a brand new shooter, I made the mistake of trying to learn with a subcompact and really struggled. If shooting with iron sights, a 5" is going to be easier to to align than a 4" and the sights themselves can make a difference for some people. For example if you are cross eye dominant, you may prefer blacked out rears and a fiber optic or bright front as opposed to a white three dot. Most of my gains were made shooting a full sized m&p, and then once I started learning the fundamentals I was able to train to shoot a smaller (Shield 9mm and Glock 42 mainly) frame proficiently
@@justinofboulder i am fairly new (started around march/april) and I am having such a hard time with the G42, but am pretty good with the full size m&p and even the G48.. cant figure out what I'm doing wrong any tips? :(
@@edxlee hand size could be a factor? The G42 is fairly small (I have small hands so I can adapt). Also I use a pierce grip extension to enable my middle two fingers to grip the frame and I focus on a firm squeeze and a stiff wrist. That is probably the largest factor for new shooters (firing small handguns), keeping their wrist stuff while gently pulling the trigger. The other issues some have is overriding the slide lock and pinching their palm on reloads. There really isn't a perfect gun out there and everything is a compromise with CCW. Rarely can one shoot a smaller handgun better than a larger one, but most people don't want to carry a full sized pistol around all day.
You do think the holosun 507c would look good in the p365 xl? Or it would look to big for the gun? I’m going to put the 507k on it but it’s just a question…
What size Allan wrench did you use the one I got with the gun doesn't fit and I've tried some other ones but I feel like they stripped the screws I can't get mine outside
No it’s not from what I understand but never tried. You’ll want something like the Holosun 507C but even with that you might need an adapter plate. I have a 507c on one of my p320s but I don’t think it’s a direct fit on the M18. Only the pro cut slides. The Delta point pro and Sig Romeo Pro are direct fits though.
It’s not compatible, but who knows if someone makes something to make it fit. I have the 507C on my Glock 45 MOS and honestly I think it’ll be too big even if you were able to attach it.
Gah where are these sights????? I’ve been waiting since shot show. Optics planet screwed me too many times so I’m waiting on Kenzie’s optics now. They say they’ll ship the beginning of August 🤷♂️
I heard they’re behind because of being produced in China and Covid slowed production. I don’t know if you gosh but even certain fishing poles are hard to find because everything comes from China nowadays.
@@williamthompson9262 Trijicon has the patent on buttons that go up on to the hood portion of red dots...so they sued holosun, holosun is having to change the button layout, But i guess they can still sell whats been made cause i just got one of these through Amazon (Botach was who sold and shipped it)
Ryan Peck yeah I’ve had two of the 507ks for a couple months now. I’m glad I did because they are fantastic. The bottoms work flawlessly and I like the layout I wonder how it will change after the lawsuit?
Mmmmm....I ordered mine from a very well regarded company. I am # 302, and they got 65 in. Bang my Head against the wall. So I emailed them and they are supposed to bet the balance in by the end of July here. I'm not holding my breath on that. I figure Sept. at the earliest.....Grrrrrrrumbling here !!!
I’m undecided on the Romeo zero and this optic. For pricing and look I think I might go with Romeo zero, since i don’t like the engraved logo but I’ve heard from comments that the Romeo zero the lenses is plastic and cuts easily while this one is glass. Anyone have both or any recommendations?
I have both & the Holosun is way better. If you want to save money, get the 407k. That's the one I usually buy, because I don't care about the circle around the dot.
I took the plate off prior to test it, but they were never too tight by any means. Others have told me theirs were very tight too. Have your shot your XL yet? The heat loosens the Loctite from what I hear. Or use a blow dryer and it might help.
@@mike34744 thanks for advice, I've only put a couple hundred through it. I did just pick up a screwdriver style allen set thay will hopefully give me the leverage I need. Also will probably try a couple shots of some wd40 I suppose. Edit: actually, trying right after shooting is a really good idea... Not sure if it gets very hot under the plate but definitely worth a shot
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I really wish theyd engrave their logo into the metal so that the majority of the optic stays black. That white is too flashy imo.
I hear ya!
Ooooo, you might get spotted. 🙄
@@jeffreycarpenter8048 I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Tacky is what I meant. Id rather my firearm not be a billboard. But I think you were just trying to be a jerk for attn more than anything. So there's that.
@@SCBCshorts 😂😂😂 relax
@@SCBCshorts get some black model paint.
Within the last 3 months I had a Sig P320 XCompact slide cut for the Holosun 507C and also put 507Cs on the optic ready CZ P10S and P10F but they needed a mounting plate.
I assumed the optic ready P365 XL would also need a mounting plate for the 507K but after watching your video I see that is not the case. Now I know what my next gun and red dot optic will be. 😁 Thank you! 👍
I know it was so easy to instal and I love the way it looks and shoots. Have fun when u get yours.
Supermike I don’t know anything about holoson but what’s the difference between the C and the K?
@@cheyenneobregon184 The "K" is for thinner, smaller (subcompact type) firearms like the 365 XL. The "C" is for full size and most compact size firearms.
Easy peasy! This is a sweet dot/circle sight. And so easy to install. Thank you for your straightforward video.
Thank you!
Thanks for the no nonsense easy video. Just grabbed a 507k for my 365X, next up is a Wilson Combat grip.
Thank you !
I bought a 365xl with the Romeo sight and hated it, because of this vid I picked up the Holosun and loved it. Thank you
Night and day difference between the Holosun and Romeo. Have a great day.
I went with the Romeo Zero on my P365XL and no complaint. I have a 407K on another handgun. No complaints there either. I liked the 507, but just wanted to keep things as simple as possible.
How can direct mounting a 507K not be simple? Good luck with the Romeo. I hear many are having problems. Holosun owns the market at this price point.
@@rich1958 I wasn't talking about mounting. I just wanted a dot, that's all. I didn't want a circle and a dot or just a circle or a dot. Just a dot. That's all.
Great video. No fluff... straight to the point! Love it! Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks man I appreciate it.
Thank you. Very helpful. My Holosun 507K X2 went on without a problem.
My pleasure.
Just what the doctor ordered. Just received mine and will be installing it today.
Enjoy!
I am really interested in this optic for my Springfield Hellcat optics ready model. I'm a fan of green dots and circle with dot reticles.
I'm glad you showed that the slide needs to be removed. i would probably have scratched my ass for a few minutes to figure out what what I was doing.
I love the circle in dot too.
Thanks for sharing! Suggested for your next video is to shoot on a light background like a cream colored towel. The black gun, the black sight, and the black tool against the black background makes for more of a video that values your audio than any real "showing." Keep making the vids and best of luck!
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks and have a great day.
Very nice! Just picked up the 365XL. I think Im going to go with the 507K.
I picked up the 509T for my HK VP9 which I love.
Do it!
Put the 507K on my 365XL. Great little sight and easy to install. 👍🏻
I know I love mine. I’m typically rotating between the XL with the 507k and the regular 365 with a Lima365 laser depending on my attire.
Im waiting on the shooting video of this im thinking of pulling the trigger on this setup but specifically the k 2 version.
I bought mine with the Romeo Zero…and I’m replacing the Zero with a 507…so good choice. That battery life with the need to remove the Zero to install the battery is a deal breaker for me.
Agreed!
Just got mine in today and installed thanks to your video!
Thanks for watching. Enjoy shooting it.
Great overview, thanks. Just picked up a 365XL and have a 507k on backorder, so I appreciate the tease!
How do u like the XL?
@@mike34744 Love the XL! Have ~500 rounds thru it, very shootable for a small package. My trigger was 4.5 lbs out of the box, with a little break-in and MCarbo spring kit its about 3.5 now. Still waiting on a Holosun 507k....
Your video was just what I needed, thanks bro!
Glad I could help.
Solid video. Thanks for posting.
Thanks John.
Keep in mind its not 15lbs it is 15 inch LBS . Use a proper torque wrench like the wheeler fat wrench. Its 50k battery life on level 6 with just the 2moa dot and 10k battery life with cirlce/dot.
Quick question if I may? I’m assuming by your comment you can turn off the outside circle and just use the dot?
@@Tetleyb Yes, 3 functions @5:45
Did you ever do your follow-up range video for this set-up? I looked in your video list and didn't see it. Thanks.
I didn’t sorry. I went and they didn’t allow recording at my range. Shoots great and has kept zero for over a year now though. Hopefully one day I can get some land at a reasonable price and go shooting on it.
Great review, Really starting to love your videos, appreciate your expertise
Thanks Chad!!
Did you have to Zero the 507
I got the remeo zero on mine. Nice video. The remeo zero has the rear site notch in it also.
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In case anyone else came to this video hoping to see how to remove the sight screws because the little Allen wrench it comes with doesn’t cut it...
Here’s what I did to get them loose: I went to the hardware store and got a set of impact wrench hex bits. I fit the 5/64 bit into a 1/4” socket and used my socket wrench to be able to apply pressure downward onto the screws (head of the socket wrench has plenty of real estate for that). The long handle of the socket wrench gave me plenty of torque to loosen them. Came right off after that.
The cheap little allen wrench that came with my Sig P365X was utter garbage and I didn't even attempt to use it when removing my sight plate when installing my Holosun 407k. For the amount of money we spend on these pistols you would think Sig Sauer could at least include a decent allen wrench.
I stripped my screws so bad I had to send the slide to Sig for them to get the plate off. Good times.
Great, great, great review and installation instructions....thanks!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Terrific video. Thanks!
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one of the 2 screws on my p365 plate will not come off. The first one came right one but the 2nd feels like its welded in place. It wont budge at all..
I’ve been hearing that a lot. Try heating it. Or if possible shoot it and when it’s hot remove it. Tends to help. Good luck.
Thank you for the video Sir. have a good one too!
do NOT use the bit from holosun to remove sig optic plate. find a t10 bit for a better fit to the sig factory screws, then use the holsun bit with holsun screws!
Nice review! Good friend of mine is having issues with his Romeo zero cutting off wile firing on his 365 so I'm looking into the 507k
100% get the 507k. I had both and didn’t like the Romeo zero.
@@mike34744 I have a Romeo Zero on my 57 & I'm not a huge fan of it.
I have Burris, Holosun or Trijicon on most of my stuff & that's the 3 brands I will probably stick with.
So I don't need a special adapter plate to mount the 507k on my 365X?
No plate needed. Perfect fit.
That's interesting. the screws that came with my holosun 507k are no where near small enough diameter to work. Yes there were 2 bags with a different size in each.
Wow that’s strange. Mine were perfect. I wonder if they just sent you the incorrect screws? I’d call them.
It could be the blue thread locker on them...i had trouble using their screws with a 507c on an Arisaka AR mount.... maybe try a couple times to get it in, then take them out and try and brush/peel off that nylon threadlocker, then use regular loctite on them
I got the 407, which has the same screw set, the screws were a bit tight due to the locker, but they went in with mild persuasion.
What size are the stock screws? When I tried taking them off to get the stock plate off, it keeps rounding out.
great video! by the way, can you permanently set the dot to dot circle or do you have to set it manually every time you use it?
You can permanently set whatever reticle You want and change it at any time.
@@mike34744 thanks my friend.
Ordered a 507K from Osage this morning. I initially was going to get the Romeo Zero, but I feel the 507k is a better choice for me. Looking forward to your review. Hope mine arrives Saturday since I opted for 2 day shipping.
The Holosun feels solid and I like the option for multiple reticles.
was it in stock there? I've been waiting on one forever.
It was then , watch their FB page , they will post when they get more.
I put the remeo zero on my 365xl. But the holosun looks nice also. Nice video.
Thanks. I might get my regular 365 cut and try the Romeo zero out in it.
Just sent my holosun 507c back for warranty. Won’t change reticals , I understand it’s 3 days old! Chasing the forums around, pretty common problem. When I get it back, it’s for sale!
I thought I had the same issue when I got mine. Turns out I held the + button for 3 seconds and locked in the settings. I couldn’t change anything and then realize what I did. Did you check that before you sent it out?
What platform are you running your 507C on? I just ordered the 507C v2 for my P365 XL but I’m worried it’s not going to fit.
Good job! The Romeo Zero is a piece of plastic junk. Like training wheels. Can’t wait to upgrade! Love my P365XL. What an awesome li’l gun!
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Very informative I was debating between the two now I know thanks
Would like to see versus the M&P Shield Plus Performance Center.
I had an M&P shield plus, but ended up selling it. The new Plus has a great trigger, but I think the 365 series still edges it out.
I am going to get my glock 43x milled for the 507k. Does this small optic co witness with regular sights? Is a rear sight necessary with the small built in one there?
It seems to co witness, but I’lll know for sure how accurate it is when I go to the range. I’m not sure how it’ll look if you leave the Glock rear sights considering it has built in rear sights. The ones built into the 507k will do just fine if the optic ever fails.
@@mike34744 that's cool. I actually stay in central florida, how much did The Amories charge? Couldnt pull anything up on their website.
Kevin Tiemann I paid about $280 out the door. They always give me good pricing because I buy a lot from them. When it’s something that’s brand new and hard to find I don’t expect to get a big discount because supplies are very limited. I think the reason for not finding anything online might be the fact that their locations are so busy lately that they’re selling most the stock in store. I’d stop in if you can. They have 3 locations and have great customer service.
Once you turn it on does it stay on until you turn it off or is it motion activated how does it work?
It’s motion activated.
Your excellent video is very timely. I just ordered my Holosun 507K for my Sig P365 XL.
Question: When one is sighting-in their Holosun 507K at what distance does the process begin?
I believe it comes already zeroed for 25 yards so I’d start with that and move closer or further. I adjusted the wrong direction when zeroing and it took me 300 rounds to get it back to zero. Overall it’s an amazing optic for the size.
I don't have mine yet, but have zeroed nine pistol optics now (three Holosun) and most of them were pretty close from the factory. You may find a slight change from one ammo to another. I usually zero mine at 10 yards (even on my competition set up), dot turned down to where I can barely see it and off hand, not from a rest.
I use a laser bore sight at the house and zero to approximately 7 yards then go to the range to check it out and it’s usually pretty durn close.
Did you have to have to adjust your windage or elevation?
A little bit, but for the most part it was on point from the factory.
Nice. I'm about to install my Holosun 407k x2 on my sig p365x so this video was helpful. Thanks! I already installed the tlr6 on it. Subscribed.
Awesome. I got the X2 version too and installed it in my p365X.
@@mike34744 Have you shot a yet?. I mean it should shoot as good as the P365 Xl with the bigger grip. I installed the plus 2 kit and base plate from mag guts yesterday. The base plate is just a few mm bigger than the stock 12 round one. So now it's 14+1.
@@joseCalderon1976 so with the Maguts it’s still smaller than the Sig 15 round mags?
@@mike34744 Yup, way smaller. And only one round less. It looks soo much better than the 15 round magazine. I haven't tried it yet, but I've heard that the mag guts +2 is reliable. It's about $35 plus shipping. Not a bad price.
@UCrFY6TsK6slHqNvu2kaE6zg thanks man! I watched some of your videos and now I want an RC car. 😂
I’ve got a Romeo Zero on my XL currently, but should have my 507K in Saturday. Hoping I like it as much as others seem to.
Let me know your opinion between the two once you get your 507K.
Supermike I will do it, I know I like the Zero, but when you hear it scratches easily that is a very true statement.
Did the 507k fit right on the p365xl no plates needed ?
No plates needed. Perfect fit.
First time for concealed carry and red dot optic here. I really wanted the Trijicon SRO. However I will be purchasing this one because I heard the Romero is garbage.
Anyone know if 320 is same no plate install
Great video. Really help me make my decision.
Thank you.
The Romeo Zero and 507k share the same footprint?
Great video Mike, very informative!!!
Thanks brother 🙏
I really like the holosun and want to get this sight for my 365xl.... but is it worth the price tag?
If you’re going to get a red dot then my opinion this is the one to get. For my 100% worth it.
Very helpful video....thanks!
Thank you I appreciate it.
Just came across this video. I saw the armory's hat on your table and was curious if you were in central Florida area.... I go to the one in Oviedo
😂 yes I go to the Kissimmee location.
Nice video, easy to follow for step by step. 👍 What other pistols do you have that you use red dots with? Thanks.
Currently I have a Holosun on 507C on my Glock 45.
how do you go about zeroing the sight? thanks for the video btw.
Read the Manuel it came with or download it online. Basically a couple left or right clicks for wind age or elevation to zero it in. I’m horrible at Zeroing in and it took me a lot longer than it should’ve because I tried to do too many clicks the wrong way without reading the manual.
I tried to use the same kind of hex set you show in the video, a well as the one they include with the 365, but the dame screws are so tight the heads are striping out and they have not budged. I wish they would use something less prone to fail... but I guess that's asking to much for my $600.
I’ve heard that from a couple people. If it has any locktite on there heating it with a hair dryer will loosen it. I can’t remember if mine had it on there or not because I didn’t have that issue when I tried to take them out
If the screws end up stripping, you can send it in to Sig and they'll remove the plate for free including free shipping.
@@benwalker6795 Yep I had to send it back to Sig!
If you have a soldering iron you can heat the screws by putting the tip of the soldering iron directly on each screw to break the bond of the loctite, that way you're not having to heat the entire slide and you're putting the heat exactly where it needs to be.
@@scottamy6496 good tip, but heat from a blow dryer won’t hurt anything in that slide and if it does, I’d rather find it that way than when I’m using it.
That is awesome. I just bought this sight for my P365X. Did you have to zero in the sight?
I had to zero it slightly , but for the most part it was on target from the start.
@@mike34744 Awesome Thank You!
Did you use a plate? Or can you get away with not having a plate like you did?
It’s a direct fit you do not need a plate to mount it.
So are mounting plates not required to hold a zero? About to mount this on a Canik METE SFX
I’m not sure with the Canik, but on the P365 no mounting plate needed.
There is no need for an adapter plate, right?
No it fits perfectly.
@@mike34744 Thanks.
Which allen wrench size did you use?
Honestly I can’t remember what size it was.
Where did you order your optic from? I'm still waiting on mine I ordered from Optics Planet :(
I got mine from The Armories in central Florida.
@@mike34744 Opticsplanet keeps jerking me around. They've pushed the shipping date back four times already.
Hopefully they get more inventory soon. It sucks waiting.
Waiting on mine from Optics planet as well.... they aren't always the quickest, but I have ordered a ton from them and they have always been great on warranty and returns.
Optics Planet said 2-3 week backorder when I ordered it, now at 8 weeks and no sign of it, not even an update. Crickets from Optics Planet.... But think it'll be worth the wait.
Hi. No locktite on the new screws needed?
I didn’t need Loctite, but it might not hurt.
We’re did you order your 507K from?
The Armories Kissimmee. Google them. They still might have some in stock
Just to let folks know I used a H2.0 bit to remove the sight plate. I believe this is the same as a 2mm hexagon bit. If anybody knows please confirm. I used my Wheeler precision micro set.
When you switched to the 2 moa dot did it turn green? In the video the dot looked green.
No it is only red.
I think you were seeing the green front sight.
It definitely looked green there on my screen for some reason (and it was the dot not the front sight...but yes i know its only red
Thank you sir, this is exactly what I needed! Side note; does anyone know if it messes with the zero or damages the optic if you rack the slide by pushing back on the front of the red dot sight?
It hasn’t messed with mine, but I would imagine at some point you might have to re-zero it in.
I’ve got the 407K on my 365XL. I don’t make a habit of it, but I’ve done it now and again and it’s been fine so far. Most reviews I’ve seen say it’s been pretty stable. The 507K is every bit as sturdy.
I wouldn’t do it with something like the RomeoZero that’s made of polymer though. Holosuns are way more rugged.
@@Matrim42 hope you don't mind my asking but what is the difference between the 407 vs 507? Thanks for any help. Getting ready to buy one and trying to make my mind up.
@@donniegombel370 The big difference is that the 407 has a 6 MOA dot while the 507 has a 2 MOA dot and a 32 MOA ring that can be used in tandem or individually. Otherwise they are the exact same. I prefer the 6 MOA dot for pistols, and the 407 is less expensive, so it was a no brainer for me. Some people really like having a ring reticle, so if that’s your thing it might be worth the extra $80 or so.
@@Matrim42 thank you very much my friend. That's perfect. 507 for my son's .45 gift I'm putting together. Hope the best for you and your loved ones in these trying times.
Does the 365XL come with the mounting plates that work for the Holosun?
You don’t need a mounting plate.
what tool do i need to take off the plate on the XL?
Just a regular Allen wrench. I can’t remember the exact size.
The Armories? Huh I was just looking at their site to go buy this gun.
Buy it!
Went to Optics Planet to order the Holosun but said it was discontinued by the manufacturer. Do you know if there was a change in model or another red dot other than the plastic Romeo optic?
Yes they changed it because of a lawsuit I believe. I believe the new model is the 507k X2
@@mike34744 Thanks so much. That's going to be a good fit for the XL.
@ The perfect fit
How tight was the bolts when you first removed the plate did they have loctite
For me it wasn’t too bad. I’ve had a couple people commenting that it was really right for them.
Do you have to sacrifice having backup irons when running this sight? I know the Romeo Zero is an inferior optic but if it allows for cowitness and this one doesn't that's a tough choice for me for a carry gun
The Holosun has back up iron sights built into the optic
You lose the rear sight no matter what optic you put on the XL, but it dosen't matter because the optics have a rear sight cut into it.
Having trouble finding a holster for this combination. Need suggestions. Thank you.
Tier1 concealed 👍
I went with Vedder Holster and love them.
How did you get the screws off so easy
Mine weren’t that tight. I did take them off once before to see how the Romeo Zero looked so maybe they were a little easier, but either way they were never that tight. Do yours have Loctite? If so heat it and it’ll be easier.
Supermike I dunno I can’t get them off n I tried heating them up but now there stripped. So I don’t know what to do
Supermike I feel fucked I tried heating it up but now there really stripped
That’s horrible
I have been on the edge if I should get the sig p365 but want to know what the best gun for a beginner would be to start learning with?
If you’re not looking to carry and don’t have to worry about concealing it something like a p320, Glock 19, or M&P sized handgun would be great because they’re a little easier to shoot. If you’re looking to carry it the Glock 43/43x, P365/365xl, M&P Shield. If the gym is a little bigger it helps to minimize recoil, but 9mm doesn’t have a lot of recoil either way. There’s so many good options for handguns and you can’t go wrong with a 364.
@@mike34744 I concur! As a brand new shooter, I made the mistake of trying to learn with a subcompact and really struggled. If shooting with iron sights, a 5" is going to be easier to to align than a 4" and the sights themselves can make a difference for some people. For example if you are cross eye dominant, you may prefer blacked out rears and a fiber optic or bright front as opposed to a white three dot. Most of my gains were made shooting a full sized m&p, and then once I started learning the fundamentals I was able to train to shoot a smaller (Shield 9mm and Glock 42 mainly) frame proficiently
J 100%
@@justinofboulder i am fairly new (started around march/april) and I am having such a hard time with the G42, but am pretty good with the full size m&p and even the G48.. cant figure out what I'm doing wrong any tips? :(
@@edxlee hand size could be a factor? The G42 is fairly small (I have small hands so I can adapt). Also I use a pierce grip extension to enable my middle two fingers to grip the frame and I focus on a firm squeeze and a stiff wrist. That is probably the largest factor for new shooters (firing small handguns), keeping their wrist stuff while gently pulling the trigger. The other issues some have is overriding the slide lock and pinching their palm on reloads. There really isn't a perfect gun out there and everything is a compromise with CCW. Rarely can one shoot a smaller handgun better than a larger one, but most people don't want to carry a full sized pistol around all day.
if i tun a red dot can i israel regular sight too in case something happens to the red dot i have another option ?
Yes there is a rear sight built into the 507k optic. You can use it as a back up just in case the red dot goes out.
Did you use a allen head bit or a star bit?
I used an Allen wrench to remove the plate and the Holosun tool with the star bit to install the red dot.
You do think the holosun 507c would look good in the p365 xl? Or it would look to big for the gun? I’m going to put the 507k on it but it’s just a question…
Way too big in my opinion. I have the 507C on my other full-size guns, for the 365XL I would definitely stick with the 507K/407k
@@mike34744 ok yes.thank you so much!!!
The 507c won't even fit.
It's a different footprint.
These will only fit K Series Holosuns.
@@pewpewTN thank you bro
@@JustplayingGames17 No problem man.
Hope you find the optic you're looking for.
Does this fit on p320?
As far as I’m aware not unless someone makes an adapter plate.
What size Allan wrench did you use the one I got with the gun doesn't fit and I've tried some other ones but I feel like they stripped the screws I can't get mine outside
Honestly I can’t remember what size.
@@mike34744 I got them out..... thanks though
This video was helpful
Is it a direct-install with the M-18?
No it’s not from what I understand but never tried. You’ll want something like the Holosun 507C but even with that you might need an adapter plate. I have a 507c on one of my p320s but I don’t think it’s a direct fit on the M18. Only the pro cut slides. The Delta point pro and Sig Romeo Pro are direct fits though.
@@mike34744 thanks!!
Thanks for the review
Thanks for watching 👍
Will this fit the canid elite tp9 sc?
I don’t believe it will without an adapter plate. Not 100% sure though.
Yes it will
Was box sealed?
It was new in the box. I can’t remember how it was sealed.
Any chance you would know if the holosun 507c v2 is compatible with the 365xl??
It’s not compatible, but who knows if someone makes something to make it fit. I have the 507C on my Glock 45 MOS and honestly I think it’ll be too big even if you were able to attach it.
Supermike awesome thanks! I went ahead and ordered the 507k instead of the 507c.
I wish I'd gotten a Holosun I don't really like the Romeo Zero.
I didn’t like the zero either.
Can u still use the sights with this optic?
No you have to remove the rear sights, but the optic has rear sights built in.
Gah where are these sights????? I’ve been waiting since shot show. Optics planet screwed me too many times so I’m waiting on Kenzie’s optics now. They say they’ll ship the beginning of August 🤷♂️
I heard they’re behind because of being produced in China and Covid slowed production. I don’t know if you gosh but even certain fishing poles are hard to find because everything comes from China nowadays.
they're getting updated to HS507K-X2. Probably due to the lawsuit. Looks like they're changing the button arrangements
ph00ny1 interesting, honestly the buttons seem just fine to me🤷♂️
@@williamthompson9262 Trijicon has the patent on buttons that go up on to the hood portion of red dots...so they sued holosun, holosun is having to change the button layout, But i guess they can still sell whats been made cause i just got one of these through Amazon (Botach was who sold and shipped it)
Ryan Peck yeah I’ve had two of the 507ks for a couple months now. I’m glad I did because they are fantastic. The bottoms work flawlessly and I like the layout I wonder how it will change after the lawsuit?
Mmmmm....I ordered mine from a very well regarded company. I am # 302, and they got 65 in. Bang my Head against the wall. So I emailed them and they are supposed to bet the balance in by the end of July here. I'm not holding my breath on that. I figure Sept. at the earliest.....Grrrrrrrumbling here !!!
Hopefully it ends up being the end of this month. I hate waiting for things too. It’s worth the wait from what I’ve experienced so far.
similar experience - showed in-stock but the day after I ordered from Optics Planet I got the "order update: backordered 24-33 days" email. Ugh.
how did it end up shooting?
Shot great. I went to the range to film it, but forgot my tripod and didn’t get any footage. Once I got it zeroed it was dead on.
Supermike great to hear, thanks for the update.
Get yourself an inch pound torque driver, them screws need to be at 15 inch pounds for a perfect zero
I’m going to order one today. Thankfully it’s held zero pretty good, but time will tell.
I’m undecided on the Romeo zero and this optic. For pricing and look I think I might go with Romeo zero, since i don’t like the engraved logo but I’ve heard from comments that the Romeo zero the lenses is plastic and cuts easily while this one is glass. Anyone have both or any recommendations?
507k is superior imo...
I’ve had both and Love the 507k. I didn’t like the Romeo Zero. Also I love having more reticle options with Holosun
I have both & the Holosun is way better.
If you want to save money, get the 407k.
That's the one I usually buy, because I don't care about the circle around the dot.
He says: "Hold this down?"
I ask: What is "this"?
the guy who said the sight hangs over more on one side prob had his slide milled incorrectly.
Thanks!
Man, my factory set screws are WAY tighter than what yours seemed to be. Did you preloosen them prior to this video?
I took the plate off prior to test it, but they were never too tight by any means. Others have told me theirs were very tight too. Have your shot your XL yet? The heat loosens the Loctite from what I hear. Or use a blow dryer and it might help.
@@mike34744 thanks for advice, I've only put a couple hundred through it. I did just pick up a screwdriver style allen set thay will hopefully give me the leverage I need. Also will probably try a couple shots of some wd40 I suppose.
Edit: actually, trying right after shooting is a really good idea... Not sure if it gets very hot under the plate but definitely worth a shot
so this is only for the new p365xl.. I have the first gen P365 and there's no screw underneath my slide..
The 365 XL is cut for this. If you have the original you’ll have to have your slide cut to put a red dot on it.
Now they have a P365 slide with the cutout on the Sig site