The fastest SSD for gaming, and one big problem..
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ม.ค. 2018
- Intel Optane promises theoretical latencies up to 1,000x lower than NAND. Could it possibly live up to such a lofty claim?
Try Tunnelbear for free, no credit card required, at www.tunnelbear.com/LTT
Check out bequiet's Dark Base 700: geni.us/fQGJLpA
Buy an Optane 900p on Amazon: geni.us/ee1y (280GB) geni.us/S2Tl (480GB)
Buy an Optane 900p on Newegg: geni.us/h16eUSs (280GB) geni.us/4hXMAQ3 (480GB)
Discuss on the forum: linustechtips.com/main/topic/...
Our Affiliates, Referral Programs, and Sponsors: linustechtips.com/main/topic/...
Linus Tech Tips merchandise at www.designbyhumans.com/shop/Li...
Linus Tech Tips posters at crowdmade.com/linustechtips
Our production gear: geni.us/cvOS
Twitter - / linustech
Facebook - / linustech
Instagram - / linustech
Twitch - / linustech
Intro Screen Music Credit:
Title: Laszlo - Supernova
Video Link: • [Electro] - Laszlo - S...
iTunes Download Link: itunes.apple.com/us/album/sup...
Artist Link: / laszlomusic
Outro Screen Music Credit: Approaching Nirvana - Sugar High / approachingnirvana
Sound effects provided by www.freesfx.co.uk/sfx/
Special Music Tracks Credit: Warner Chappell's 2017 library disco edition - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
![[UNCUT] ฝันรักห้วงนิทรา | EP.8 (4/4)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RDYJYiDwsj0/mqdefault.jpg)
*I should start watching things that I can afford*
lmao
My life dude
Story of my life
Honestly it would be affordable for me, instead of the M.2 Version which would require me to rebuild the whole PC to even get an M.2 Slot
yeah same lol
no ssd can be as fast as me skipping through raid shadow legends ads
my finger becomes usain bolt during those.
I know right? Why do they even sponsor people if the know everyone just skips over them?
@Elloli because they get paid to. It's not about you not wanting to see the ad. Just watch the ad. I hope TH-camrs evolve to have posters of their sponsors in their video so you CANT skip! Hahahaha!!!!
You legend
spondour ad block (fyi)
"Traditional nvme"
TRADITIONAL.
It's been available how long?!
And here I am, still bashing rocks in SATAIII era
@@MrCh0o lol
Several years.
Traditional probably because it is based on NAND Flash that has been with use for over 35 Years now.
Born - 1980 in Toshiba R&D, Sold first in 1987 by Toshiba. It is getting quite old
@@nikhilpaleti3872 you've been doing meth instead of math.
Im starting to think all these product reviews are just setups for tunnelbear
this comment aged well...
@@tylercgarrison as did yours
Darb Stre did you just forget to swap accounts?
@@chockie8363 no aha.
just download more ssd
Ian Reeves but please don't forget to download the cpu first
i wish it was that easy, i would be downloading 4 gtx titan v's right now
Yeah, the problem is that we have to download a case too.
Hey! It's not that far. With fiber internet, there are almost no limit :)
Making an backup of 1TB right now. With 1GB/s up and down. It is as fast as my two hdd in raid 0 will allow it to go...
Carl Strandberg i get 8 mgb/s
So basically a product for virtual hosts that is targeted for gamers with a promo code for a game that’s never gonna be released
Typical Intel, I'd say.
By the time Star Citizen is released optane ssds will as obsolete as my floppy drive
You have no idea how true that statement is
@@sniper6823
You from the future?
actually no. that's vaporware and will never see the light of day.
@@meenamjah
2014 called. They want their joke back..
Aditya Waghmare 2019 called, this game has been in development for way too long
The name "Optane" always makes me think of propane and butane gas...
lmao dont remind me of chem pls
Optane and Optane accessories ;)
That's octane tho
Intel Propane™
@@jameslawson5237 At least it's not butane and butane accessories
Gaming on this is like selling the porsche for a ferarri when all you have are dirt roads.
*Porsche
Better say that it's like selling ferarri when roads have 60 km/h limit.
portch
Turbo Tutorials porch
Phorshe
I need intel on how to optane one of these.
Muhamed Ahmatovic *S T O P*
Muhamed Ahmatovic 😂
Muhamed Ahmatovic sakht launda
What happened to your brain when you wrote this?
Roger Murtaugh this guy doesn't get it.
It would be nice to have normal ssd's with ~32-64GB of Optane on board mapped as a seperate drive as a swap-drive due to it's high write endurance and IOPS
Actually genius
'one big problem' for me is always the PRICE
600$ for sillicon and microfibre tech is gay
aca en argentina cuesta como 1200 dolares el de 1TB
The high price is just a small price to pay.... it gets bad when selling both kidneys for gaming hardware. xD
is this considered studying
Osama Obama Yes. It’s preemptive studying for college.
i like your thinking
I need to write an essay and yet im watching this
Osama Obama lmao i have 2 tests tommorow and homework to do but fuck it ill just have to sleep late today
J Vilander Same dude
I'm here with the absolute cheapest 120 GB SSD I could afford
Also comment what videos (about tech) I should make (:
Dr. Dunk me too lol
I have a kingston its preatty cheap lol
Hard drive...
WD Green checking in
Dr. Dunk
I'm here with a 50gb hard drive.
We need fresh video on the fresh Intel Optane 2020 :D
Honestly I thought it would be more expensive. 600 dollars isn't cheap by any means, but considering the advantages, availability, and that this is super cutting edge, I thought it would be more expensive. Especially in this new era of pc parts where RAM costs as much as your kidneys and a GPU requires you to win the lottery.
polymerizedrecords True lol
Yeah same here. 600 isn't too bad.
my thoughtss exactly. I expected to hear something like "3 thousand bucks".
I was thinking RAID on SSDs as an answer. I don't know if that really improves the performance though. $600 is still a lot of cash these days. Maybe for gaming load times a RAID would be just fine at doubling the overall read speed.
+LDS Believer
for what? for games, on basically any SSD the storage isn't the bottleneck anymore. Seek Times of a couple Nanoseconds and transfer rates of "almost the entire game in a few seconds" solidifies that.
for professional work or server tasks? then you can find situations where faster responses and more speed can always be very useful.
Yeah but can it beat my Western Digital IDE HDD?
No you would need atleast 4 of those ssd's to beat it
Only 4? pffft... nahhh.. I reckon 2 of the PCI drives AND 5 Pro SSDs [but you can download them all thru your monitor... just pirate them! But you need at least 1 full internet. shh! Don't tell anyone!]
i still have quantum harddrive made in 90's that only spinning at 3600RPM!. i only get soemthing like 20-30MB during speedtest
JebThePleb yes because you can download storage and ram
Wellen Sittich r/wooosh
Man that whirlpool looks amazing
That moment when your internet can't even keep up...
Would look cool if it was on wallpaper engine
At 0.003 frames per second I would hope so.
Console: OMG NO LOAD TIMES AND WE FINALLY GOT SSDS
Pc:
Thanks for including a Houdini benchmark! That's my main usecase for my workstation :)
850 Evo Master Race
500 gigs!
Same
Jimbo Bimbo but it doesnt decrease loading times or anything because they are scripted, as seen in the video.
Pienimusta same, 500gb and a old 840 250gb,
Same here! i got 1TB SSD!
But if I buy this, how will I afford all the loot boxes?
Custos You can make it up with the sense of pride and accomplishment.
You could always just sell your soul to EA...
-T-X-M- he already sold 2 of the kidneys to Apple 😂
And his soul belongs to Alphabet Inc. like the rest of us.
EA butt coin. They f u in the butt.
that "you're winner" trophy. big rigs?
PenileAugmentation me too
Came for tech
*stayed for big rigs callback*
I was so happy to see it referenced.
I remember the time I weighed down the reverse key for half an hour and returned to see my truck hitting 100x the speed of light... ah, memories!
_You are winner_
Thanks for the offer on the case, I checked it out after this video and I now have it as my case for the PC. It's really sleek and I'm proud of my build!
thank you for including ram disk.
is it honestly really worth to use ram disk? I Have 12 gigs, play alot of games so to speak, which is why im asking :P mainly most of my games run on my SATA HDD and OS on SSD :P
for your use case no a RAM Disk will not be worth it as the noticeable difference between a SSD and a RAM Disk is very small so unless you load up a simulation of the universe game and it is set to simulate the entire real life universe but for most games really unless you also have 20 tabs on your internet browser up and a whole host of other apps you will never go past 10GB of system RAM just with playing games
now with making games 12GB is going to be super slow once compile time comes and renders will be slow unless you off load it to your GPU which not all programs allow for nor support
Ah, but mainly run my games on my SATA HDD tho, and not my ssd (very little games go on my ssd as its only 128gigs) :P so would it be worth it to run ram disk for my SATA HDD? I can understand its not worth it on the SSD, but thats not where I place my games xD
Honestly, no. At 12 gigs you don't have nearly enough ram to create a ramdisk that would be worthwhile for much of anything outside of extremely small niche circumstances. At a bare minimum I'd recommend 32GB total system ram before considering setting one up. Any less and you'll run the risk of starving the rest of the system of ram, which will hurt overall performance far more than however much the ramdisk can help.
also a motherboard that can support 128GB of system RAM is expensive compared to the normal ones only supporting up to 64GB of system RAM on top of that system RAM is expensive right now and will always be more expensive than a SATA hard drive of the same size though as they no longer make 128GB SSDs you will have to go with a 256GB or higher drive size
but can it run Meltdown?
Brolivia Wilde Mmmm fondue
And if you act now, they'll throw in some free speculative execution and indirect branch prediction.
And can it add Spectre for free?
But can it run divinity :original sin 2 fire blob level?
Can it run Quake 2?
One of the better LTT videos in the past year. Much better content and delivery of said content.
It's also nice seeing the use case for Optane explained.
This is the first video that I noticed the video quality. Awesome job guys and keep up the good work! I heard you folks shot on a Red Camera, is this it?
Buys best SSD, still falls through PUBG map ;)
what
what
lol this gave me flashbacks to when I played PUBG with the game on a hard drive. The buildings took 3 minutes to load. Thankfully I use an SSD now.
I like how it takes me three minutes to boot up but I still can go ahead and play without falling out of the map... I have a shitty 2TB hard drive
What
Wake me up when 1TB SSDs cost as much as 1TB HDD's now
leonthesleepy well good luck in waking up lol
Wake me in....5 years i think?
we will wake you up in the year 2030
$97.99
www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Performance-Internal-SP001TBSS3A55S25/dp/B07B4G19X3/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?crid=2VVY63ZZ4OVOA&keywords=1tb+solid-state+drive&qid=1555540254&s=gateway&sprefix=1tb+solid-state+drive&sr=8-9
wake up and get a WD Blue SSD, its cheap
great review. one fast ssd for OS and app boots-another for imaging and storage then a NAS for final backups.
Awesome you guys included Houdini in your benchmarks. It's the main software I use at work. Thumbs way up!
That Star Citizen card you tossed probably drove half of the sales for this SSD.
You really think so?
yeah, the Sabre Raven goes for 300 USD on eBay
It influenced by purchase of it.......
I think Thomas K meant "my" but wrote by
For sure. Planning on getting one for me and the misses, and that ship is about a 3rd of the reason why we chose these.
But will it fill the hole left by my kidney?
Killer Bratwurst It might fit yea
Killer Bratwurst no you need the Samsung one,
Oh, so you must have just bought a 1080ti?
Sickshooter0 no sadly ,I only have 760 gtx 4 GB edition,
Triple-way 1080ti SLI will fill both your kidneys and probably one lung too.
Have you tried running machine learning with that drive ? I think it's built for that. Could be a great test / benchmark to test machine learning capabilities of hardware. Love your channel!
This SSD with the Intel i5 1700 would be a great combo!
Star Citizen does know who to market. The person that buys an 600 dollar SSD for gaming also buys hundreds of dollars worth of fake spaceships.
so true xD
LOL
r/pcmr
_Star Citizen_
*4K Gaming*
*GABE NEWELL*
Honestly. They can add as many features as possible but unless they fix the fps for medium tier pcs, they're gonna keep pissing people off. Great alpha though. Love watching gameplay.
Virtual not fake.
To best honest, it will be better to use it as a system drive than gaming storage because of its fast random 4k r/w speed. Also $400 for 280G version of 900P isn't that expensive if you can fully make use of its potential. But marketing it as the ultimate storage for gamers are misleading, as normal sata SSD is good enough for average users.
I got one for a client, windows installed in just over 5 minutes, fwiw.
Open world games that stream data based on your view point benefit most. Thats why star citizen partnered with them as the random write speed is very beneficial.
It's really not going to make a difference. This is great hardware for something like a DB with thousands of accesses a second, but honestly an nvme drive will probably be faster for a desktop workload.
Eve online has been using drives like these for years.
As always very good and clear info. Regarding the Dark base, is it isolated?
I could see this working as an ultra-fast cache for a high capacity internal storage array. It's actually what I'm intending on using one for :)
Happy to see you guys picked Houdini to show the performance boost!! Finally proper professional software that can push any hardware to its limits. Great choice, keep up the good work !
thank you for doing houdini tests!
Not gonna lie, Ive begun really looking forward to these videos, and got legitimately EXCITED when I saw this one about SSD's. I learn SO MANY INTERESTING STUFF when I watch this channel!! :D
in practice, the Optane 900p has nearly 5x the 4K random read speed as the 960Pro
So I was thinking about setting up a RAM drive... Wanted to buy some extra RAM for that.
The same 16gb DDR4 kit I bought at the end of 2015 cost about 75€. Now it's at 160€. This is insane, if I had bought all the components for my current build a little later I would not have been able to afford 16 gigs O_O
This RAM and NAND shortage blows...
Just wait until you see the Video card shortage ;p I got my 1070 for 450 and now its close to 1000$.
Starfals Yeah, I saw that as well. Friggin' miners...
Good thing I don't game, they left the 1050 Ti alone! XD
What in the actual fuck happened to the price of them this is fucking crazy.
WTF where does it cost 1000$? My 1070ti only costs 500€
Crypto miners are buying all cards they can get their hands on. The 1070 seems to have an especially good value for them.
That is why a lower end card like my 1050 Ti didn't explode in price but everything beyond the 1060 did become very expensive.
This SSD is *T H I C C*
The faster SSDs get the lower the benefits seem to be. The difference between playing a game off a SATA-3 SSD and an NVMe SSD are barely noticeable, especially as many games these days have a countdown timer before the match starts anyway lol.
The difference between waiting 500ms and 50ms is noticeable, the difference between 50 and 5 is not. Even if SSDs doubled in speed again it wouldn't make a difference for anyone. pretty obvious
@@bobsagget823 it would only make a difference for people doing absurdly large file transfers
I saw a noticeable difference coming from my SATA 3 Samsung 860 Evo (523 MB/s read) to my now m.2 Samsung 970 Pro (3.8 GB/s read). .
Open world RPGs.
@@junkiexl86 I switched from SATA Crucial MX100 to 970 EVO and I noticed the difference too, it's like 60hz vs 144hz monitor, I can notice the slight difference in responsivness when I have too much stuff running.
It came with a $200 ship in Star Cit. I bought the SSD on sale for $240 and sold the key, I literally got the drive for $40
Let me guess big problem is PRICE.
If only I could buy one. I had to sell both kidneys to get a GTX 1080 and now whenever I run both my dialysis machine and my desktop at the same time the circuit breaker kicks in and my power goes out.
Way to show those miners who's boss!
one year later and with the advancements in gpus i bet you want your kidneys back lol
Really like the kitchen background , could you use optane for the petabyte project or have as a server rack , I am interested in how it works
that rendering of the whirlpool is awesome
When the SSD has more power than my PC
when is more expensive than my PC
peasant only applies to console this guy is just poor
I would have loved to see Database performance using Octane. That would have been a perfect test bed regarding Physical IO's bot Random and Sequential.
well some other or another people was still guessing the answer in your feedback but good thing you put that reply effects in there. at 3:17
The “brought to you by” part of the video always catches me off guard lol
I love it when I by chance skip both the sponsor and the intro with 1 click
0:05 please, i am watching youtube with tv in living room
very good video, thanks for sharing bro!
How does it rate compared to the Intel 750 Series pcie SSD
"Even your ISP can't track what you're browsing"
Oh Linus... Sandvine Technologies just chortled at you.
It would be 30% faster If It had RBG
Why do you want an optane ssd to have a previous Supreme Court justice?
Linus and your team.. thank you guys for every video you make.. really so awesome..
How does this work in terms of houdini? (
I wonder what security steps intel skipped over to make this.
whiplash_ , no fan boi here. Just love beating on intel.
star citizen: when your game loads so slowly that it becomes a feature
I see you do the same trick I do to secure a loose ssd...jam paper into it :) Love your vids
My 905P U.2 is still going strong in 2022. I am surprised this tech didn't go more main stream at over 7 PB of endurance for a 260 GB Drive.
I just got one too. Didn't receive it yet. How does it compare to a regular sata 3 drive in system responsiveness? I'm not too concered about sequential reads/writes as much as responsiveness.
Did y'all record the intro with a new camera. Image quality and focus looks alot better!? 🤔
Maybe you just had the quality settings down or slow internet.
Maybe the new studio has better lightning, or just plain looks better
They are using a set with a further away background and using a Fast aperture. This makes the background blurrier and what is in focus appear more sharp just by the greater contrast, even though the in focus area is just as sharp as it always is. Also good lighting.
The reason for it not making differences in a work tasks, might be a driver issue. An update for library and integrated API for a drive update would allow u to use optain SSD to its full potential instead on a work tasks or other task, that redunded read and write library codes ;)
Like so much the honesty in this video, a true review. Kudos, I believe what is said in this video.
That Big Rigs Over The Hills Racing reference. Wow.
Intel didn't advertise making gaming load speeds faster.... they advertised making a SPECIFIC game load faster... and sensibly so, as you said, its a 200GB game, compared to most normal ones on the larger end of that scale which are a mere 25-33% that size.
Zyndo actually it's a 40gb game. 200gb is what they think they game may end up being. Its more to do with loading things while ingame.
Fair enough Stoned Raider... I'm not at all familiar with that game. All I was trying to say was maybe there is something specific about that game (whether it's size, or design or something else unique about it's nature) where this drive provides tangible and meaningful improvements in that title specifically, rather than gaming as a whole. Intel wasn't advertising it as a gaming drive. they were advertising it as a "Star Citizen Drive".
And WarmSoftKitty, if the entire game is larger, it's also reasonable to assume that, in an intergalatic based game with explorable planets and great detail, that each area to load may be larger as well. warp into a system with a couple hundred ships flying around and there is suddenly a lot more for your system to load. Again, I know very little about this particular game so maybe none of that is happening, but game size can have a very direct impact on load times for sure 100%. Of course another reasonable argument is that a bigger game just has more areas rather than larger, or more complicated/intricate, areas in which case you're correct that load times would probably be unaffected.
"It also recommends a CPU that doesn't exist." I lost it.
they probably just meant "intel i5 *or* ryzen 1700"
@@DeSinc This is where I last expected you.
Can you guys post a solo video of the SideFX maelstrom? That rendering is AMAZING
03:32 it also recommends A10 APU in the same line as HD7990.
I wonder if we are getting close to a RAM-free world. The latency tests suggest *eventually* we may just be able to use a pagefile someday.
Pink Droid That would be good, wouldn't have to worry about loading anything but booting up anymore.
interesting notion! just imagine the storage of the future, I wonder if it could be fast enough to run directly on the cache bus attached to the CPU, meaning it wouldn't even have to go through a controller or anything.
I honestly don't think so. Ram speeds are increasing incredibly fast aswell. I mean nowadays you can buy 4500mhz ram with a quite low latency, which in itself is mind blowing. Just some years ago everyone sat at sub 1000mhz speeds.
Joakim Carlsen very true. I still think we may eventually be in a distant future where system-on-chips are the norm(made up of a few hybrid components), even if they are not the fastest available.
yeah. I don't mind, i just want the fastest :)
Touching pins
Touching pins
TOUCHING PINS
TOUCHING PINS
TOUCHING PINS
ToUcHiNg PiNs
ON CARPET
AAAAAAAAAAHHHH
Wow you would hate to watch me build a PC, I think you would have a fit....
It's okay if your grounded but sitting in a couch feet on carpet
No its always ok, Unless you have been skidding around trying to charge yourself up on the carpet then the first thing you touch is the pins... lol
One shouldn't touch electronics barehanded without being grounded. Now, depending on his shoes, he could be grounded at all times, but you are right, static is a component killer.
yea that hudini thing was amazing we need that tech for games one day hopefully soon.
Oh my god old LTT videos are so good
Seems we love Netherland if we use Tunnelbear ;P Greetings from Netherland!
Well, for gamer or other less important jobs, normal SSD will more than enough.
Very fast drive are only for big tasks, but even with fastest drive, there are other problems with memory, GPU and CPU...
You need almost whole new system for it! Don't forget some software are just not made for it too. :(
Yes yes yessssssssssss I need more stuff to fill PCie slots
The background music in this video sounds dope !
Can anybody tell me what track that is ?
The "Special Music Tracks Credit" in the description does not help
For server's this works great! (using 15) for a online game! So for using in server's, this Optane Mem. works great!
2:05
AAAAHHH oh jesus, don't throw that away, people will pay like $150 for that thing
3:34 "Quad core CPU *more that* Intel i5 1700" not only is there no i5 1700 but *"more that"* ??? what!??
W Bond i think he meant i5 and the ryzen 7 1700 hence he abbriviated it to "1700"
When some drunk QA tester who has no idea what Chris meant by "1700" because he hasn't heard about Ryzen yet
Obviously they mean R7 1700, I know this because that's what they have used in their demo machines at the past three press events they appeared at.
So the game need 32 gb of at least 3300mhz ram and 16 threads AND 200 gb of a modern ssd. Damn you really need to invest in that game in more ways then one.
@Word Kat They don't expect Star Citizen to release before 2020. So there's that to keep in mind.
The game also isn't done yet. These specs are based on the current high-end which is what they hope on being reasonable PCs by the time the game is ready.
Also, that line is still incredibly stupid. "Quad core"? 1700 ain't quad :)
If it isn't considered reasonable by then, well, back to Freelancer I guess.
Speaking of overflowing RAM, did you test After Effects?
love how he threw the star citizen flier away. just too good.
And I'm using a 5400rpm mechanical hardrive over here...
Raptor Bass gotta love the older stuff. storage kings
Ok seriously, whats wrong with you??
An SSD is just really cheap right now, 128GB is less than 50 us dollars....you have no excuse.
Morpheas , my laptop only supports nvme m.2 ssd which is kinda expensive.
Morpheas if i switch my hardrive to ssd i wont have enough storage tho.
+Morpheas Both SSD and HDD have both pros and cons.
Who else noticed the big rigs reference at 6:41?
who didn't?
too bad, there is no SSD on the market that is as fast as the trucks when they drive backwards
Quality content :)
Thanks!
that beQuiet case looks dope, makes me want to build a new pc
I would not mind having that starcitizen code if you dont want it ;)
I agree, me too!!
Was thinking the same thing!1
I sold my coupon for Sabre Raven for 145 $, basically got third of the price back ;)
Linus should do a giveaway if he is not using the code
Count me in
When can I Optane one of these?
Kush Shah never if you ain't Bill gates or have a lot of dank money
Does that speed comparison graphic take in to account the performance lost due to the cpu patches since xmas? How can you compare any SSD figures to anything tested before the patches fairly?
Ah the ol' Big Rigs Over The Road trophy
the one big problem is that gpu prices are awful ._. its $700 for a 1060
Ares5933 500* but ya I get what ur saying
Nvidia.com
$2100 for 1080 Ti? Holy shit, that is like the cost of my prebuilt 8700k with 1080Ti. which i got a prebuilt because of the gpu market.
How much faster than M.2 could you expect it be when it only uses 4 PCIe lanes? Those 4xM.2 RAID0 PCIe cards from ASRock, Asus, and High Point use all 16 lanes.
One fine Day the good old Game Cardridges will resurrect and take the Market by Storm. They will be directly accessed as Memory so there is no more loading Time, everything will just be there. The only Bottleneck is the PCIe X16 Connection to upload Stuff into the GPUs Memory.
How is it for programming? Like compiling a big C project?
Hey can you do a video where you test these using optane as a "replacement" of ram?, you can use these for swap for virtualized servers or desktops and measure performance.