"Do NOT support UHS-I" means they don't support the higher-speed microSD modes. UHS-I cards are require to work in non-UHS bus microSD slots. It means that it'll work, just not anywhere close to the rated speed for the card.
+Super Smash Dolls: and if he used quality SD cards, it would be a lot better performing. Some cards rated UHS-I do fine with that interface but are abysmal in standard mode. Other cards, like "Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s," which will still only give the full rated speed only when using UHS-I, do very very well in standard mode.
I really dont know, maybe someone, somewhere was really into photography but stopped and now has 20 SD cards lying around. That dude might be really happy to have found a purpose for his cards? lol
It is the population order. If you install 2, 4, or 8, you have to populate the SD sockets labeled 1&2, 1-4, or 1-8, none of which are physically next to each other. There is no order of course for which of the to be populated sockets you populate first. (power is off)
If I may explain, the point is that if you have LESS THAN 10, you must do it in that order to populate the readable ports in the order that they will be accessed by the controller (it will use certain ones 'first' and so you must have cards in those 'for sure', for it to work - if you have less than 10..). HTH ~T
@@cyberspino6277 hardly a human will give 64gb sd cards into a recycle place in hope they will recycle them, and the performance is terrible so no point either lol
Hey, if the controller would be much smarter, if it would have DRAM cache on it, if it would support like 256 fast SDcards in raid 5 and if it would be connected to a pcie4 slot - then you could have a super-fast super-resilient SSD that you could repair if one SD card fails ! THIS IS NOT A BAD IDEA IF IT IS SCALED UP !
Thank you Linus tech for simply taking ads out of your videos and manually adding your own ads. It's actually funny and I love the personalized experience.
With the last five years, I've accumulated 8 Micro SD cards from four different phones. That's what products like these are made for, data storage, not an OS. Instead of having them laying around they can be repurposed.
It seems it would be good for storing a backup of a downloaded TH-cam channel you are migrating to another platform like Bitchute or Brighteon, while making use of old cards just sitting there.
I can see that being a really good way of keeping files incredibly secure. Save your super-secret files > remove the SD cars > send them to 10 separate locations around the world.
I mean, I guess if your super secret data isn't particularly important... I pull my photos off my SD cards as fast as possible, and those aren't hardly important.
I'm imagining a bad late-nite infomercial. "You have SO MANY Transflash cards lying around! They're EVERYWHERE! What can you POSSIBLY do with all of them? Well, now there's a great new product..."
It looks like it's great for a backup drive because that requires no random-access performance and you can get ten not-great-capacity cards super cheap. Makes the resilience irrelevant too. So it's crap as a hard drive but it is nice for one thing. I might even get it.
I'd dare say resillience isn't irrelevant, since the device employs a raid0-tactic any failure in a single sd card results in all data (likely) being gone.
I work at a cellphone company, we get sd cards that customers left in their phones when they traded em in or returned their phones all the time, we usually just throw them out, I have a whole drawer full of them.
I use an internal multi card reader in my desktop to run multiple sd cards at once for just that reason. For me they take the place of floppies. Of course, I wouldn't be able to hold a big file without a RAID configuration.
CGFrog cuz, I just let my 8year old and four year old tear down our old and very faithful single core celeron base 1.5 gig of ram , billy goat of a computer. That old clunker would surf the net slower than Snell mail. It thought AOL dial up CD's were going too fast. And lord forbid you try looking at ............ You get the top half of a pic about five minutes before the important parts down below.
voltare2amstereo That already exists in arm cpus. I think it had something to do with the rasberry pi, but i recall it was a atx sidez board full of tiny arm chips with heatsinks in a grid on both sides i think. It was a cluster in a board so they all had to boot from the network which was hardwired in the board itself
I've designed an SD controller on an FPGA, so I've read the SD spec. The UHS-1 thing isn't an issue because UHS-1 cards still support all the slower modes. The board just doesn't support the faster UHS-1, so the cards aren't being used at their full potential
SOMEONE ALERT HOLLYWOOD! You could use this to send sensitive information offline. If you send the micro SSDs seperatly, someone would have to intercept all of them to get the world changing data stored within.
.....and you probably fail to change the world while you never get the entire sensitive information as a careless postman who lost a single piece of your SD cards.
Once upon a time, world changing data was stored on a state of the art hybrid highly unstable SDSSD. The good guys thought the only way to protect this data (from the bad guys) would be to split the 10 individual SDs and send them to the four corners of the globe :/ Unfortunately the bad guys overheard the cellphone conversation and have already collected 9 of the 10 SDs :o In an unforeseen turn of events, your Hero fights hard to secure the last SD; for the good of humanity! He fails. All hope it lost. The bad guys acquire all 10 SDs, make back to their secret hide out, boot up the SDSSD only to find that the world changing data is....Corrupt. Disaster averted. Good job Hero. Your hamster didn't die in vein.
I want hdd manufactures to make their bloody drives faster!!!!!!!!! Simple to most hdds have 4 platters and can be read from both sides so 8 readable sides. So i want an internal raid 10 4 sides is for raid 1 and 2 lots of 4 platters for the raid 0 So 4x read performance forth the capacity I would rather a 400mb’s 500gb hdd than a 560mb’s ssd because you would save about £40 per drive meaning for every 2 500gb ssds you could get 3 hdd. And when your like me and use raid 1 you would get more speed and a third more space for the same price
I would like to see a similar product review or project build of a PC HDD/SSD made out of something absurd like cassette tape, VHS tape, or something similar
Uh, no. UHS-I cards are required to support legacy bus modes (3.3V, up to 50 MHz) in addition to the UHS-I modes (1.8V, up to 208 MHz). "Do NOT support UHS-I" doesn't mean "we don't support UHS-I cards", it means "we don't support UHS-I bus modes, only the crappy legacy modes".
Just because there is backward compatibility doesn’t mean it would be optimized to their system. Especially when it says “do not use this type of memory”.
There have been a lot of tests done on this "drive". The "drive" controller is bad. Lots of negative reviews. This able to be purchased on Amazon, aliexpress, eBay to name a few. Look at online reviews
Well it a good skill to practice, especially when working with this type of technology. The moment you start thinking your doing things correctly and taking short-cuts, may end up into headache territory later.
Sure you can. It just looks like a normal SATA drive to the OS, so ordering two and RAID-0ing them together will net you a massive 1MB/s random write time!
You need no special driver. Most motherboards have a built-in RAID controller so you could use that. And each SD Frankencard is recognised as a normal SATA drive. darkSorceror said it all :) (don't get me wrong, perfomance would suck, I suggested it just for the fun of it)
Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. The PCB does have a RAID-0 controller between the 10 SD card slots, but it is fully self-contained, with no drivers required or likely even possible. The unit as a whole connects only by SATA, and is therefore managed by whatever SATA/AHCI/RAID controller you plug it into. Unless the drive has proprietary commands over ATA protocol, the performance Linus got out of it is as good as it will get. And even then, those proprietary commands would make OS and application compatibility a nightmare, unless the driver itself is translating standard commands to the special "make it work fast" commands, which defeats the purpose altogether.
And that is why you're wrong. There is no RAID controller visible to the PC here. There's nothing to run a driver for. It's not possible if it's ATA standard.
this product sounds fun, it definitely exists for people like me who happen to have a dozen extra micro SD cards from over the years. combining all those shitty, small SD cards into one larger drive actually sounds appealing, since I have no use for all these 4 and 8 gb micro SD cards anyway.
No These sata to micro sd adapters have been around for at least 15 years, and the whole reason they existed is because they were created BEFORE Sata SSDs became mainstream, that's why it makes no sense to linus, because you're taking a 15 year old product that is obsolete now and incorrectly imagining it's new or something..... They weren't made recently or for people with a "bunch of micro sd cards hanging around"
NAND performs better when a bit warm. The controller is the only part that needs cooling. And according to Linus, the controller on that thing is crap anyway, so cooling it wouldn't help it much.
SDG Danny I just calculated....for that price ($50*10=$500)...you can get a 2 tb SSD...on top of that its raid 0..so,pretty much doesnt make any sense.
These types of videos are actually a great idea. People like me do want to see impractical things like that in action. It give you some good nuance, intuition, and context for where technology is these days and how some types of hardware are performing in relative contexts as it relates to the way some things have worked in the past. Keep on doing these types of videos. 👍
Come on.. Its very useful to secure your data.. Just save your very important files on it.. Then shuffle the ssd cards.. No one ever figure out how to get access on it.. No need to do encrypt or decrypt no password, no software / hardware lock .. Whenever you want to access your data reinstall ssd on correct place. Make sure that you remember right order otherwise u have to play musical chairs with those cards unless you get correct order
Got one in my phone... According the manual of my LG X-Cam, it supports up to 2TB SD card lol... I've searched in amazon and I couldn't find one above 512MB... And that 512MB one was worth twice as much as my LG X-Cam...
Step 1: get top secrets from Area 51 Step 2: save them on this and label all cards 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Step 3: hide them all over the world Step 4: go to Ecuadorian embasy Step 5: tell everyone what is on them Step 6: be forever remembered as someone who gave world the most epic geocaching adventure ever
If I was the company that made those useless card I would do that but with an alleged million dollars price. Then tada.. Ton of people buying them to be ready when they found all the cards
lamebubblesflysohigh ahh! That’s what I was thinking... except random people all get it from all over the world: 1- they meet up at the coordinates they found in one of the files 2- they arrive and a man was paid to collect the SD cards on a certain day, when all of them arrive 3- each card had a portion of the data for one video- an old man leaves his fortune to whoever can survive a battle royale between them
No. Does not support UHS-1 means it falls back to slower speed. Like plugging USB 3.0 device into USB 2.0 slot, it just drops speed and goes (slowly). +LinusTechTips should have figured that one out. ;p
UHS-I cards are required to support legacy bus modes (3.3V, up to 50 MHz) in addition to the UHS-I modes (1.8V, up to 208 MHz). "Do NOT support UHS-I" doesn't mean "we don't support UHS-I cards", it means "we don't support UHS-I bus modes, only the crappy legacy modes".
This "SSD" has the best safety measure! You go to work and take out one of the SD cards, so your wife can't check on 1TB of "collected movies" :D **suspicious thumbs up**
If it uses any common RAID techniques, swapping cards shouldn't change anything. The controller will figure it out. That said, they might have skipped that feature to save complexity in the controller. If it runs RAID0 only, then they might not care about data integrity.
I really love how people who understand this start to stick their noses into it and start their "what if"s :D as mentioned swapping may not help her, but she can also take a bite (SD card) for herself :D on the other hand this requires some knowledge as to where does the cable from the monitor go to and so on :D this is not an insult, this is my experience with majority with women :)
If someone has a bunch (ten or more) of micro SD cards around and is playing around with PC building then this will fit. Thanks Linus good video as usual!
No its *illegal* in about 38 states of America, southern parts of Ukraine, NSW & ACT Australia, 13 European countries but only frowned upon in Canada. New Zealand has no restrictions though.
What I do like with Linus, is one day he will review a 10000$ monster server, and the next day he would review few micro sd on a cheapo SATA chinese board with the same enthusiam. :D
This thing depends entirely on the (RAID?) controller on the card like SSD's do, as well as the controllers built into the individual micro-SD cards - that all together will govern how fast the whole thing is. And these are being sold for cheap on eBay so the controller on the card won't be great, which is bourne out by the benchmarks in this video and the lack of UHS-1 support... Still, interesting topic for a TH-cam video!
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the sequence to insert sd card applies only if you will be using 8 or less sd cards otherwise you can just fill up all the slots irrelevant of any sequence.
The random performance is worse of course because most NAND SSDs use DRAM for that burst & random higher end performance. DRAMless TLC SATA SSDs would do just as bad. This doesn't have DRAM of course. Then the controller & firmware is optimized for the specific NAND chips & DRAM. This one uses a controller that has to kinda-sorta-handle various SD cards. So, it's still kinda impressive that it actually works and maybe someone out there has a use case for it if they have old SD cards sitting around. Linus is assuming someone is straight up going to buy this as some main drive and spend money on top dollar best SD cards. It's just an extra thing for some hobbyist.
Plus he starts by saying it shouldn't accept the cards he's using in it but then says 'oh but they seem to work' meaning it's really just a bodged up test. Why not use actual compatible cards? I' not saying it'll make a huge difference but surely he should give IT and the company a fair chance at seeing optimal results. I think it's innovative and with firmware could get better and, like you say, is great for maybe a hobbyist with cards knocking about. Linus, if your going to test stuff at least please do it right and to manufacturers specs otherwise it just makes you look biased. It may be no good but doing it your way make your test not matter.
+redrooster303 you're right, that the appropriate SD Cards should get used i suppose - but the performance and cost will definitely be terrible compared to your other options either way. this isn't some secret trick to building a computer for 32 cents or anything. SD Cards that perform like you want an SSD to perform are just as expensive as they are!
I know man, I love Linus' vids. He's one of the best out There for this kinda stuff. Just wish he had done it to the optimal specs so we could (still) see how bad an idea it is. Someone, ie hobbyist/hoarder with loads of cards, will make good use of this. Don't think it will light the world on fire though lol.
Certain caching applications may benefit from this, where you are writing and reading large files continuously. This sort of application is hard on SSDs, so the ability to swap out damaged drives might be helpful … except that 128GB SSDs cost the same as Flash cards and anyone who needs that kind of performance would likely already have a solid RAID. Nevermind.
*well, I made the math, it's gonna be cheaper to buy one than DIYing a 640GB SSD with SD cards, cuz the price of the DIY will be around $238 including the adapter and a 640GB ssd would cost around $204 and would be much faster soo... yeah*
\ XxRabyPower00xX / lol those sd cards are $60 a piece on Amazon. So that is $600 in as cards alone when bought separate, plus the board. Just get an SSD
I'd guess this is going to be bought buy the kind of people who use SD cards all the time in their life and end up upgrading over time. So they have a collection of them just sitting around doing nothing. I've got a few and I'm a super casual user. I've also got a bunch of thumb drive and smaller HDD's. I'd consider a product if it were cheap that let me just hook them all up. At no point would it be worth buying cards but if you already have them. I'd give it a thumbs up just for the niche audience it would please even if it still wasn't very practical having a hobbled together SSD. It's better than having them laying around in drawers ya know?
\ XxRabyPower00xX / Maybe you could get them cheaper if you were a distributor and could get them at a far lower price. You could sell the drive with them already installed and make higher profits at a lower margin and make it profitable of a product. Its still gonna be a shitty ssd and i doubt you could sell them a lot cheaper than a regular low end ssd
I'd say it makes sense if you have a bunch of extra SD cards laying around and just need some storage. Eg: you have a bunch of 16GB cards laying around after replacing them with 64GB cards, and a 160GB SSD is more useful than a bunch of 16GB cards.
I think it's better suited just giving those SD cards to family and friends, because if you are using these like a mass storage device, just get a hard drive for 10 bucks more.
yes, that is the exact same thing a lot of people have been doing for years with the PhotoFast adapter on their PSPs, it is a dual slot microSD to Memory Stick Pro Duo adapter. I have one with a 16gb+2gb pair of microSDs and theyre holding 68 games at the moment, plus 8 different emulators with loads of roms
But you don't realize that in a different raid system, you could use a single SD card for parity, and have 9/10 of the price/preformance compared to 5/10 suggested by yours
TeknoSquirrel imagine walking into Samsung hq and stomping into the ceos office and he’s on all fours, *ASS IN THE AIR* giving dome to a random squirrel
"Do NOT support UHS-I" means they don't support the higher-speed microSD modes. UHS-I cards are require to work in non-UHS bus microSD slots. It means that it'll work, just not anywhere close to the rated speed for the card.
Yup, backwards compatibility.
+Super Smash Dolls: and if he used quality SD cards, it would be a lot better performing. Some cards rated UHS-I do fine with that interface but are abysmal in standard mode. Other cards, like "Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s," which will still only give the full rated speed only when using UHS-I, do very very well in standard mode.
Ruel Tmeizeh still doesn't avoid the fact that this is a pointless piece of hardware.
I really dont know, maybe someone, somewhere was really into photography but stopped and now has 20 SD cards lying around. That dude might be really happy to have found a purpose for his cards? lol
the funny party of this is... someone who name herself "linus tech tips" should know this basic informations about memory speed ^^
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Gets SD cards from Kingston,
Recommends SSD from Crucial & WD.
WD SSD's are overpriced, lmao
Crucial make really good SSD's but WD aren't that great iirc
You know how Linus feels about dram-less ssd's. He'd never recommend one.
Prithvi Raj Because Kingston supplied the SD cards for him.
Ol l
You have 10 slots and 10 SD cards. There IS no order.
Imagine doing 2, 4, 6, or 8 but missing the first slot
It is the population order. If you install 2, 4, or 8, you have to populate the SD sockets labeled 1&2, 1-4, or 1-8, none of which are physically next to each other. There is no order of course for which of the to be populated sockets you populate first. (power is off)
If I may explain, the point is that if you have LESS THAN 10, you must do it in that order to populate the readable ports in the order that they will be accessed by the controller (it will use certain ones 'first' and so you must have cards in those 'for sure', for it to work - if you have less than 10..). HTH ~T
@@tesityr6722 that makes me wonder if it will be actually faster if would you only use 2 cards?
@@mitchbogart8094 bed
"Mom can we get SSD?"
"We have SSD at home"
SSD at home:
i dont get it
Mom'S SpaggheDdi?
@@justinstover5168 The vid shows the ssd that this guy says his mom says to use as the new one is expensive
12 TERA BYTES
lmao xD
I work at a recycling place that doesn't recycle electronics, so I always find free micro SDs so this is actually amazing for me.
not really
@@slavb0i646 it costs 20$ and if he has 10 64gb sd cards he can use them and get 640gb of storage for 20$
@@cyberspino6277 hardly a human will give 64gb sd cards into a recycle place in hope they will recycle them, and the performance is terrible so no point either lol
it depends some people just throw away their phone when it's broken, or the phone is dropped and etc.
@@slavb0i646 my work is Murphy's law on steroids. It happens
SDSSD. This is a terrible and impractical idea. I love it!
Snazzy Labs yep typical Linus tech tips content
SD cards as SSDs make so little sense in so many ways, more expensive, slower, not M.2, what could possibly be a better video starter?
What if you have a bunch of SD cards laying around you you want it to be bigger. Sata to USB
What if you run them in raid?
As funny as it is, it’s such a terrible idea that I can’t even understand what the creators were thinking.
I remember when 1GB was around $100. Tech goes down on price pretty fast
Only when you dont pay attention
True. I just bought a 128gb micro at walmart for 15 dollars
Brute Hunter I still have an old 1TB HDD with the price tag of 3k+€ on it.. nowadays it’s like 40€?
Really insane how the price dropped
I think my first hdd packed 21 mb.
Lasse Hjalmarsson I remember i had a 8 mb one
10 years later: *_"DIY SSSD made of SSD Cards!"_*
*Super-Solid State Drive*
@@brotnjanin same thinking lol
You can get PCIe to M.2/SATA cards.
SSSD Made of SSDs made of SDs
@@pizzoo ah yes an underrated comment
Linus: "I'm going into this with no expectations" *gets results* "They were better than I expected"
Well to be fair, it's technically true 🤔
well, if you expect nothing, it's always better than you expect
yup lol
Annihilate all expectations.
I was literally expecting it not to work at all so by that metric (and only that metric) it passes
Hey, if the controller would be much smarter, if it would have DRAM cache on it, if it would support like 256 fast SDcards in raid 5 and if it would be connected to a pcie4 slot - then you could have a super-fast super-resilient SSD that you could repair if one SD card fails !
THIS IS NOT A BAD IDEA IF IT IS SCALED UP !
Okay
Good luck convincing someone to make a PCB like that
@@nemtudom5074
ok, 64 SDcards would probably be more than enough considering the best SDcards are fast and huge now.
Thank you Linus tech for simply taking ads out of your videos and manually adding your own ads. It's actually funny and I love the personalized experience.
Save money on Dollar Shave and buy a proper SSD
@MIF what
"I have no expectations"
"It worked better than I expected"
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WHAT IS IT LINUS?!?!
LEDtherebelight it works better than nothing (???)
can't trust him anymore
if he had 0 expectation, any small positive would be better than he expected.
@@SyukriLajin He didnt say he had 0 expectation. He said he had no expectations.
Being a note 7 camouflaged as an ssd.
5:15 - "I'm coming into this with literally no expectations whatsoever"
5:38 - "Performance is actually.....better than I expected"
"No expectations"
The funny about "no expectations" now-a-days, is that means you are in some deep shit, because typically you expect what you buy to work.
Expect the unexpected with no expectations
Hey man, what's that book you're reading? "*Great Expectations*" I read it, not what I expected.
i mean he expected nothing, and he got something, so... it's better than expected?
Hunter Killer II iigg
With the last five years, I've accumulated 8 Micro SD cards from four different phones. That's what products like these are made for, data storage, not an OS. Instead of having them laying around they can be repurposed.
i have that same problem as well- this thing makes them useful again
@@jub8891 I had at a time like 20 diffrent Micro SD cards sized from 128MB to 16 or so GB wounder if that could be run.
It seems it would be good for storing a backup of a downloaded TH-cam channel you are migrating to another platform like Bitchute or Brighteon, while making use of old cards just sitting there.
I can see that being a really good way of keeping files incredibly secure.
Save your super-secret files > remove the SD cars > send them to 10 separate locations around the world.
Definitely Not Dan thank you. I can now sleep at night
Glad I could help. If you need any more strange and elaborate ways of hiding things, you know where I am. ;)
Your hiding somewhere.
I mean, I guess if your super secret data isn't particularly important...
I pull my photos off my SD cards as fast as possible, and those aren't hardly important.
Take em all out and zap carry em
He should use 10 1 TB sd Cards
to get a 10 TB SDSSD
Radictor *512 GB
@@od3stroyer771 sandisk has a 1tb card
Shadow Fall NEVER USE WISH FOR THAT STUFF
ANNHIRO DAIOH still it depends on reading and writing speeds of sd cards
sandisk i heard has 1tb sd,kingston made 1tb usbs some years and and now has 2tb usbs
It’s for the guy who accidentally bought a bunch of micro sd cards and wants to use them...
I'm imagining a bad late-nite infomercial. "You have SO MANY Transflash cards lying around! They're EVERYWHERE! What can you POSSIBLY do with all of them? Well, now there's a great new product..."
It looks like it's great for a backup drive because that requires no random-access performance and you can get ten not-great-capacity cards super cheap. Makes the resilience irrelevant too. So it's crap as a hard drive but it is nice for one thing. I might even get it.
I'd dare say resillience isn't irrelevant, since the device employs a raid0-tactic any failure in a single sd card results in all data (likely) being gone.
I work at a cellphone company, we get sd cards that customers left in their phones when they traded em in or returned their phones all the time, we usually just throw them out, I have a whole drawer full of them.
I use an internal multi card reader in my desktop to run multiple sd cards at once for just that reason. For me they take the place of floppies. Of course, I wouldn't be able to hold a big file without a RAID configuration.
In this case, "SSD" means "Simultaneous Secure Digital"...
Hey ooo
Linus, let me send you my laptop's hardrive and you will never call anything slow again.
Buy a new one, your's is dying
CGFrog cuz, I just let my 8year old and four year old tear down our old and very faithful single core celeron base 1.5 gig of ram , billy goat of a computer. That old clunker would surf the net slower than Snell mail. It thought AOL dial up CD's were going too fast. And lord forbid you try looking at ............
You get the top half of a pic about five minutes before the important parts down below.
Is that a meme? Or is it soon to be a meme? Google only finds dying pet results hahah
Buy a new one, your’s is dying
Buy a new meme, this one died. Or did it!? *dun dun dun*
What the fuck is next... making an 80 core cpu with tiny cpus???
Nemroz 80 core cpu with 10 cpus
Nemroz I'd like to see it done with a ton of ARM7's
voltare2amstereo
That already exists in arm cpus. I think it had something to do with the rasberry pi, but i recall it was a atx sidez board full of tiny arm chips with heatsinks in a grid on both sides i think. It was a cluster in a board so they all had to boot from the network which was hardwired in the board itself
That would be called a server
Lga 1567
When he says "I'm literally doing this with no expectations" and later says "the performance is better than I expected"😂
He had zero expectations, so when the performance was above zero, it was technically better than his expectations.
@@mihirmutalikdesai nOiCe 😄
I've designed an SD controller on an FPGA, so I've read the SD spec. The UHS-1 thing isn't an issue because UHS-1 cards still support all the slower modes. The board just doesn't support the faster UHS-1, so the cards aren't being used at their full potential
Soon Linus will have a full DIY pc which he may finally drop
ManulTheCat
So.. building a PC? Lol
Hey man, nice picture you have there, what a handsome cat.
AsaAkirasDarudeSandstorm what about mine
A twin! Now neither of us will be virgins!
Technically, building a new PC from parts is a DIY process, so Linus has done that countless times already.
Your "ssd" is slower than my sata 2 harddrive lol
Oof
It's 2x slower then my IDE drive lol
it's 2x slower than my makeshift CD-RW hard drive , lol
+Revan Onarsi
Why does everyone say ''Oof'' recently?!
It's meme that came from roblox.
SOMEONE ALERT HOLLYWOOD! You could use this to send sensitive information offline. If you send the micro SSDs seperatly, someone would have to intercept all of them to get the world changing data stored within.
The real question is, why you ignored spellcheck.
@@mematron booooo
could just use normal encryption
.....and you probably fail to change the world while you never get the entire sensitive information as a careless postman who lost a single piece of your SD cards.
Once upon a time, world changing data was stored on a state of the art hybrid highly unstable SDSSD. The good guys thought the only way to protect this data (from the bad guys) would be to split the 10 individual SDs and send them to the four corners of the globe :/ Unfortunately the bad guys overheard the cellphone conversation and have already collected 9 of the 10 SDs :o In an unforeseen turn of events, your Hero fights hard to secure the last SD; for the good of humanity! He fails. All hope it lost. The bad guys acquire all 10 SDs, make back to their secret hide out, boot up the SDSSD only to find that the world changing data is....Corrupt. Disaster averted. Good job Hero. Your hamster didn't die in vein.
SD is evolving...
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Congratulations! Your SD has evolved into SSD!
Now for the SSSD and SSSDD
@@loop5720 wait for next update , this feature will be implemented soon
Still no update....@@itseasy1861
knowing SD cards I can imagine the reliability on this is... not great
the number of writes is lower but SD cards can hold data far longer then an ssd.
lasest2 that's probably why one of my sd cards failed then
I've had a bunch fail but I do tend to drop my phone from time to time.
@Linus it say, "do not support."
Not, "does not support."
They are telling us not to support that evil memory type
Once you put your top secret data on this hard drive you can take it apart/ or assemble it like a puzzle. ;)
Easy solution for the Raid 0 problem. Just use two of them in Raid 1!
KOrbiid
"Mind blown"
Raid-ception!
Easy solution, but an expensive one.
Raid 10**
I want hdd manufactures to make their bloody drives faster!!!!!!!!!
Simple to most hdds have 4 platters and can be read from both sides so 8 readable sides.
So i want an internal raid 10 4 sides is for raid 1 and 2 lots of 4 platters for the raid 0
So 4x read performance forth the capacity
I would rather a 400mb’s 500gb hdd than a 560mb’s ssd because you would save about £40 per drive meaning for every 2 500gb ssds you could get 3 hdd. And when your like me and use raid 1 you would get more speed and a third more space for the same price
I heard you like RAID, so I put some RAID inside your RAID.
These are getting used to rebuild high capacity classic iPods with up to 1tb storage.
@DankPods ftw...
Why do you care about order of putting them? You have 10 cards there is 10 slots, power is off... so screw the order! #Anarchy
On point hahaha
Not to mention the instructions don't even say anything about order of insertion. There's just a list of slots that should be populated.
Turbulencje exactly, the order only matters if you aren't filling all the slots
James, I'm not accepting what you said. Autism has nothing to do with how he operated. If your going to say otherwise, Prove it first.
I was thinking that lol
0/10 No RGB
I think that makes it 1000/10 for not having it lol
Forget RGB..we have SD! It's like RGB, except dark and extremely slow.
Stfu
RGB = better random read/write speeds? xP
does not matter buy led strips off ebay and bam rgb
*INSTALLING WINDOWS ON THE DRIVE SINCE HOURS*
disconnect the drive like nothing happened
Not really any better, sudden power loss during a write to flash memory can trash it.
30mins so who cares
I would like to see a similar product review or project build of a PC HDD/SSD made out of something absurd like cassette tape, VHS tape, or something similar
go chec action retro he literally ran a site off of 30 floppy disks raided 0
Why not try it with non UHS-1 cards? It could be better...
Uh, no. UHS-I cards are required to support legacy bus modes (3.3V, up to 50 MHz) in addition to the UHS-I modes (1.8V, up to 208 MHz). "Do NOT support UHS-I" doesn't mean "we don't support UHS-I cards", it means "we don't support UHS-I bus modes, only the crappy legacy modes".
I agree, however, the creators did put that warning up for a reason. I think it's worth a try.
I'm guessing the reason is to deflect people from buying UHS-1 cards and not getting the benefits you'd expect from UHS-1
Just because there is backward compatibility doesn’t mean it would be optimized to their system. Especially when it says “do not use this type of memory”.
There have been a lot of tests done on this "drive". The "drive" controller is bad. Lots of negative reviews. This able to be purchased on Amazon, aliexpress, eBay to name a few. Look at online reviews
Linus: The board has 10 slots and I have 10 cards and I'm gonna put them in sequence
Yeah I guess sometimes the logic part of your brain just turns off.
Well it a good skill to practice, especially when working with this type of technology. The moment you start thinking your doing things correctly and taking short-cuts, may end up into headache territory later.
Linus you disappoint me mate! The least I expected from you was to order 2 of those babies and then RAID 0 them for a RAIDception......
Sure you can. It just looks like a normal SATA drive to the OS, so ordering two and RAID-0ing them together will net you a massive 1MB/s random write time!
You need no special driver. Most motherboards have a built-in RAID controller so you could use that. And each SD Frankencard is recognised as a normal SATA drive. darkSorceror said it all :) (don't get me wrong, perfomance would suck, I suggested it just for the fun of it)
Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. The PCB does have a RAID-0 controller between the 10 SD card slots, but it is fully self-contained, with no drivers required or likely even possible. The unit as a whole connects only by SATA, and is therefore managed by whatever SATA/AHCI/RAID controller you plug it into.
Unless the drive has proprietary commands over ATA protocol, the performance Linus got out of it is as good as it will get. And even then, those proprietary commands would make OS and application compatibility a nightmare, unless the driver itself is translating standard commands to the special "make it work fast" commands, which defeats the purpose altogether.
And that is why you're wrong. There is no RAID controller visible to the PC here. There's nothing to run a driver for. It's not possible if it's ATA standard.
There is no RAID controller driver running here. As far as the PC is concerned, it's a single disk.
"Drive Letter K... Because it's special" that cracked me up. Thank you, I needed this
it stands for kludge
SSD=some sds
this product sounds fun, it definitely exists for people like me who happen to have a dozen extra micro SD cards from over the years. combining all those shitty, small SD cards into one larger drive actually sounds appealing, since I have no use for all these 4 and 8 gb micro SD cards anyway.
No These sata to micro sd adapters have been around for at least 15 years, and the whole reason they existed is because they were created BEFORE Sata SSDs became mainstream, that's why it makes no sense to linus, because you're taking a 15 year old product that is obsolete now and incorrectly imagining it's new or something..... They weren't made recently or for people with a "bunch of micro sd cards hanging around"
512 mb sd cars for the win....
How would it perform watercooled tho?
NAND performs better when a bit warm. The controller is the only part that needs cooling. And according to Linus, the controller on that thing is crap anyway, so cooling it wouldn't help it much.
it was a joke Nmotsch
I both hate and love this comment ha!
Why ? Oh just for the lols...maybe tiny bit better but immeasurable
g g yea rgb would boost about 200 gb a Second
It probably exists so that you could manage files from many raspberry pis. If not then it is pretty cool decorative storage.
It’s a pretty cool concept. Modularity ftw!
too bad it doesnt make sense
SDG Danny I just calculated....for that price ($50*10=$500)...you can get a 2 tb SSD...on top of that its raid 0..so,pretty much doesnt make any sense.
Except it's raid 0 so the modularity is far less useful.
I'm not a fan of easy-to-screw-up storage
but otherwise, sure...
if it wasn't raid0 it might be a bit more useful, though, even slower
Pretty dumb concept. Stupidity ftl!!!!!
These types of videos are actually a great idea. People like me do want to see impractical things like that in action. It give you some good nuance, intuition, and context for where technology is these days and how some types of hardware are performing in relative contexts as it relates to the way some things have worked in the past. Keep on doing these types of videos. 👍
Come on.. Its very useful to secure your data..
Just save your very important files on it.. Then shuffle the ssd cards.. No one ever figure out how to get access on it.. No need to do encrypt or decrypt no password, no software / hardware lock .. Whenever you want to access your data reinstall ssd on correct place.
Make sure that you remember right order otherwise u have to play musical chairs with those cards unless you get correct order
Hamir Bharwad this is genius
I´m gonna put 9 SD in place and the other one is gonna be in my mini-chest keychain
Nobody is gonna erase my memes again
Hamir Bharwad brilliant
Biswajeet Singh 10!
Rohan kumar nope. Way more than that.
watching this while unboxing a micro sd card from micro center
8:10 "and you know what else is cool ?"
That would have been a good intro for an Air Conditioner advertisement.
But is it VR READY?
Algol Yes.
needs RGB too.
Algol also 4k Ready at a whopping 1/2 frame per minute
Or can it play crisis lmfao
VR READY but no RGB :(
The SD cards cost more than the SSD, something you don't see everyday
Not if you already have a bunch of them laying around
Karl Anthony Margate good point but still
Not in Turkey, where SD cards are in surplus and SSDs are in shortage.
Linus: I expect nothing.
Also Linus: It's better than what I expected.
TEN 128GB SD cards 😍 I've never touched one in my life
I've owned one. Nothing particularly special about them.
You've never touched because you don't need it :P
@@jabkowy6107 my Nintendo switch begs to differ
Got one in my phone... According the manual of my LG X-Cam, it supports up to 2TB SD card lol... I've searched in amazon and I couldn't find one above 512MB... And that 512MB one was worth twice as much as my LG X-Cam...
Should’ve used 10 512 gig micros
I have seen this product before on google I just never thought it worked.
Quack products usually DO work, just not in any useful fashion.
UNSTOPABLE40 congratulations want a 🍪
we all thought the same thing about the $1,000 HDMI cable
Thank you for taking the bullet on that one. I always wanted to know how this would work.
on GOOGLE? or the internet.
Quality.
Pyry 1 I
we must find a way to harness the energy from his hands and facial expressions. we can have sustainable power for years.
Step 1: get top secrets from Area 51
Step 2: save them on this and label all cards 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Step 3: hide them all over the world
Step 4: go to Ecuadorian embasy
Step 5: tell everyone what is on them
Step 6: be forever remembered as someone who gave world the most epic geocaching adventure ever
If I was the company that made those useless card I would do that but with an alleged million dollars price. Then tada.. Ton of people buying them to be ready when they found all the cards
devilwarriors what is this, the dragon balls?
Now thats the best 6-step innovation I saw the entire week. Cheers
lamebubblesflysohigh ahh! That’s what I was thinking... except random people all get it from all over the world:
1- they meet up at the coordinates they found in one of the files
2- they arrive and a man was paid to collect the SD cards on a certain day, when all of them arrive
3- each card had a portion of the data for one video- an old man leaves his fortune to whoever can survive a battle royale between them
Maybe its slow Because u used the wrong sd cart type
well linus needed to spank this video out in one sitting so I guess the ssd is faster than him.
No. Does not support UHS-1 means it falls back to slower speed. Like plugging USB 3.0 device into USB 2.0 slot, it just drops speed and goes (slowly). +LinusTechTips should have figured that one out. ;p
lol, i thought you were calling him a faggot. "jeez fella,no need for tha....oh."
Yeah, we need another test...
UHS-I cards are required to support legacy bus modes (3.3V, up to 50 MHz) in addition to the UHS-I modes (1.8V, up to 208 MHz). "Do NOT support UHS-I" doesn't mean "we don't support UHS-I cards", it means "we don't support UHS-I bus modes, only the crappy legacy modes".
This "SSD" has the best safety measure! You go to work and take out one of the SD cards, so your wife can't check on 1TB of "collected movies" :D **suspicious thumbs up**
What happens when the wife swaps two random sd card positions while your at work o.O
Frustration
Ateneiro good use for the word wife in a phrase, people in this channel are unfamiliar with that
If it uses any common RAID techniques, swapping cards shouldn't change anything. The controller will figure it out.
That said, they might have skipped that feature to save complexity in the controller. If it runs RAID0 only, then they might not care about data integrity.
I really love how people who understand this start to stick their noses into it and start their "what if"s :D
as mentioned swapping may not help her, but she can also take a bite (SD card) for herself :D on the other hand this requires some knowledge as to where does the cable from the monitor go to and so on :D this is not an insult, this is my experience with majority with women :)
6:26 my father after seeing my report card
If someone has a bunch (ten or more) of micro SD cards around and is playing around with PC building then this will fit. Thanks Linus good video as usual!
I have.... so many 2GB micro sd cards... i am totally doing this LMAO
You can get a 20GB drive with them!
@@kuasocto3528 And then put 2 20gb drives together in a raid 0 again so you get a 40gb drive.
oooo la la
I want one SD card
@@cherryfx8239 Make a raid 10!!!
Is it *legal* to have such a big screen?
No its *illegal* in about 38 states of America, southern parts of Ukraine, NSW & ACT Australia, 13 European countries but only frowned upon in Canada. New Zealand has no restrictions though.
Uuugh . Why is it illegal ? Kinda dumb law
I think not.
Lol its an LG SmartTV mounted on a wall
I hope this question is a joke
Honestly now with the 1tb cards out.. this isnt so crazy to me.
"I have no expectations."
*minutes later*
Its faster than I EXPECTED.
I guess you could call it an Sdssd. (Awkward Silence)
Barely A Parody i get it
Suprise linus didnt say that.Thats their idea of humour.
You can turn an SD card into an SSD, all you need to do is add an extra S at the front.
...
Exactly... And this 'S' stands for 'Stupidity'
Very Brilliant Idea bro...
actually, i loved Chaz's comment.
SSD card
Linux: ''That's quality''
Me:''Slav engineering...''
You know it
I purchased this today too from China, thanks for this review.
But why?
Dávid Kertész just mainly experimenting i have hundreds of sd cards and this only costed me $12. so why not.
Im interested in the results, good luck !
what are you going to use it for?
Chinese computer magazine did this 6 years ago.
What I do like with Linus, is one day he will review a 10000$ monster server, and the next day he would review few micro sd on a cheapo SATA chinese board with the same enthusiam. :D
This thing depends entirely on the (RAID?) controller on the card like SSD's do, as well as the controllers built into the individual micro-SD cards - that all together will govern how fast the whole thing is. And these are being sold for cheap on eBay so the controller on the card won't be great, which is bourne out by the benchmarks in this video and the lack of UHS-1 support... Still, interesting topic for a TH-cam video!
Would be funny to have that thing run in raid 6. So you could have an ssd with an internal failsafe
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@@stevethea5250 Australia is a bit far though.
Advertiser: so how many ads do you want to take?
Him: yes
*sees title*
Linus, no, we've talked about this
the sequence to insert sd card applies only if you will be using 8 or less sd cards otherwise you can just fill up all the slots irrelevant of any sequence.
We need that thing for DDR 4 RAM
There are 1TB Sd cards available now. Make a similar video with all the slots filled with 1TB Sd cards. IT WOLD BE DOPE 🔥
So a 10tb ssd
1:53 to 2:00 sounded like Jared from Silicon Valley lol
xSplayd sweet lord he does haha
WOW how did you catch that LOL
that laugh sounded like sprinklers
Had to turn the volume off - wow this guy is annoying.
Jared from Subway
So it doesn't support 6 sd cards, but doesn't not support 6 sd cards
a DIY SSD made of DIY SSD's made of SD cards
Diy hdd made of diy ssds made of diy ssds made of 1tb sd cards
Can use 1, 2, 4, 8, or 10. Not 3, 5, 7, or 9......WHAT ABOUT 6??
Lol
No one has exactly 6 spare micro sd cards, so that number doesn't matter.
They're afraid you'll use 6 three times and bring about the apocolypse. ;)
I can buy a 240 gb Kingston ssd for the same price as the BOARD.
But, this board is expandable.
@Scorplanet whats nigas??
is that the ssd???
The random performance is worse of course because most NAND SSDs use DRAM for that burst & random higher end performance. DRAMless TLC SATA SSDs would do just as bad. This doesn't have DRAM of course. Then the controller & firmware is optimized for the specific NAND chips & DRAM. This one uses a controller that has to kinda-sorta-handle various SD cards. So, it's still kinda impressive that it actually works and maybe someone out there has a use case for it if they have old SD cards sitting around. Linus is assuming someone is straight up going to buy this as some main drive and spend money on top dollar best SD cards. It's just an extra thing for some hobbyist.
Plus he starts by saying it shouldn't accept the cards he's using in it but then says 'oh but they seem to work' meaning it's really just a bodged up test. Why not use actual compatible cards? I' not saying it'll make a huge difference but surely he should give IT and the company a fair chance at seeing optimal results. I think it's innovative and with firmware could get better and, like you say, is great for maybe a hobbyist with cards knocking about. Linus, if your going to test stuff at least please do it right and to manufacturers specs otherwise it just makes you look biased. It may be no good but doing it your way make your test not matter.
+redrooster303
you're right, that the appropriate SD Cards should get used i suppose - but the performance and cost will definitely be terrible compared to your other options either way.
this isn't some secret trick to building a computer for 32 cents or anything. SD Cards that perform like you want an SSD to perform are just as expensive as they are!
I know man, I love Linus' vids. He's one of the best out There for this kinda stuff. Just wish he had done it to the optimal specs so we could (still) see how bad an idea it is. Someone, ie hobbyist/hoarder with loads of cards, will make good use of this. Don't think it will light the world on fire though lol.
Yes, some will love this and like you say it will be era speed stuff.
Certain caching applications may benefit from this, where you are writing and reading large files continuously. This sort of application is hard on SSDs, so the ability to swap out damaged drives might be helpful … except that 128GB SSDs cost the same as Flash cards and anyone who needs that kind of performance would likely already have a solid RAID. Nevermind.
I'm super late to this one but i died laughing to Anthony's reaction to "Special K Drive"
This thing is about as fast as my old SanDisk SSD which is just dangling off it's cable because I didn't even bother to buy a 2.5" mounting kit.
Schrader zip tie it
Schrader duct tape it lol
i doubt there are any moving parts in a ssd, so it should be fine...
Sebastian N. There aren't any, it's fine hanging as long as the cable isn't getting pulled hard
*well, I made the math, it's gonna be cheaper to buy one than DIYing a 640GB SSD with SD cards, cuz the price of the DIY will be around $238 including the adapter and a 640GB ssd would cost around $204 and would be much faster soo... yeah*
\ XxRabyPower00xX / lol those sd cards are $60 a piece on Amazon. So that is $600 in as cards alone when bought separate, plus the board. Just get an SSD
I'd guess this is going to be bought buy the kind of people who use SD cards all the time in their life and end up upgrading over time. So they have a collection of them just sitting around doing nothing. I've got a few and I'm a super casual user. I've also got a bunch of thumb drive and smaller HDD's. I'd consider a product if it were cheap that let me just hook them all up.
At no point would it be worth buying cards but if you already have them. I'd give it a thumbs up just for the niche audience it would please even if it still wasn't very practical having a hobbled together SSD. It's better than having them laying around in drawers ya know?
\ XxRabyPower00xX /
Maybe you could get them cheaper if you were a distributor and could get them at a far lower price. You could sell the drive with them already installed and make higher profits at a lower margin and make it profitable of a product.
Its still gonna be a shitty ssd and i doubt you could sell them a lot cheaper than a regular low end ssd
\ XxRabyPower00xX / Um, No, I can get 512gb MicroSD for 9$, do 10 of those is 90$, then 40$ for the Adapter, 130$ Total, and a 5TB SSD.
Clorox Beach Whoa?! 512gb of sd cards for 9 bucks?! show me da wae! xDD
been waiting for this one
DanielRichards644 beceause of instagram?
NO I don't use no fucking instagram, i'm not a teenage girl
DanielRichards644 tween*
WAN Show
instagram for loser kids
The space of an SSD for the speed of an hdd
Less hana montana, more miley
I'd say it makes sense if you have a bunch of extra SD cards laying around and just need some storage. Eg: you have a bunch of 16GB cards laying around after replacing them with 64GB cards, and a 160GB SSD is more useful than a bunch of 16GB cards.
Makes sense until you realize you can pick up a used 256GB SSD on Ebay for $70.
I think it's better suited just giving those SD cards to family and friends, because if you are using these like a mass storage device, just get a hard drive for 10 bucks more.
Got my samsung 840 evo 256gb vor like 60 euro New.
Doesn't make sense when a gener usb 2.0 flash usb have better performance than that thing.
yes, that is the exact same thing a lot of people have been doing for years with the PhotoFast adapter on their PSPs, it is a dual slot microSD to Memory Stick Pro Duo adapter. I have one with a 16gb+2gb pair of microSDs and theyre holding 68 games at the moment, plus 8 different emulators with loads of roms
That big guy is da real mvp, he Comes and knows everything. Like Liam Nielsen.
Don't know who Liam Neilson is, he's probably a Liam Neeson wannabe... 😅
He needs to do repeated weekly liver cleanses. Shedding at least 100 pounds would increase his life by a lot.
@@s4rg380 Rob Roy
Y'know how 7 ate 9? Why did it do that? Because it needed three squared meals a day.
I don't get it
nine is three squared
See someone gets it
reported
Shroom2018 A square meal is a balanced meal. And 3² is 9
Linus: * joins several sd cards to form a ssd *
My brain:
POWER RANGERS, MORPH !!!!
"Lose one SD Card and your data goes..." -- Pfff. Just buy two and RAID for redundancy. Everyone knows that.
Keep funding the lunacy you have created for yourself! Woooooo!
Yay! Let's make it into an even more expensive endeavour into the absurb xD
But you don't realize that in a different raid system, you could use a single SD card for parity, and have 9/10 of the price/preformance compared to 5/10 suggested by yours
Whoosh!
Don't ever stop killing it Linus .... Love your videos. God Bless !!!
Samsung makes sd cards.
Samsung makes ssds.
Coincidence?
*I think not.*
Princess SparklySequins Samsung can S my D
TeknoSquirrel imagine walking into Samsung hq and stomping into the ceos office and he’s on all fours, *ASS IN THE AIR* giving dome to a random squirrel
6:56 Me struggling through college
I enjoy your “special “ product reviews. I enjoyed the Chinese converted laptop to desk top CPU review.
It exists for frankenputers
Or applying one image to multiple MicroSD cards at a time.
The performance reminds me of the low end jmicron controller based ssds from close to a decade ago
It's great when you have lots of cameras and you want to pull the data off