What is Intel Optane?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Intel Optane is a new storage technology that can be used as either a super-fast SSD or additional system RAM! Learn all about it right here.
Squarespace link: Visit squarespace.com/techquickie and use offer code TECHQUICKIE to save 10% off your first order.
Techquickie Merch Store: www.designbyhumans.com/shop/L...
Techquickie Movie Poster: shop.crowdmade.com/collection...
Leave a comment with your requests for future episodes, or tweet them here: / jmart604
Follow: / linustech
Join the community: linustechtips.com
Image at 3:58 credit Julian Herzog. Used with permission under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International.Julian Herzog. Used with permission under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International. creativecommons.org/licenses/... - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
![เกิดใหม่ทั้งทีก็เป็นสไลม์ไปซะแล้ว ซีซั่น 3 - ตอนที่ 58 [ซับไทย]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TgNEbYSTY0Y/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Teaser EP.2] “MasterChef Junior Thailand Season 3” วันอาทิตย์ที่ 9 มิ.ย. นี้ 6 โมงเย็น ทางช่อง 7HD](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KojBzrifbWg/mqdefault.jpg)
Too expensive for me to Optane.
That pun sure was Fast.
this is an underrated comment
Love the word play!
Imma call PCIelice on you
Mars Deimos nice one
10 years later
10TB optane drive for $30 in scrapyard wars
Comrade Stalin lmao bet?
If this were Reddit or 9GAG, one would say, "You, sir, to the top".
@@saifsterosman that would be accurate, as on these platforms retarded and inaccurate comments usually get voted to the top
@@RandomUser2401 not reddit
caner's memes music and more yeah definitely reddit
Oh boy, can't wait to see what the future has in store for Optane memory!
Yeah watching this after the cancellation feels… ironic
Hahahahah nice
Bruh
@@24mmfilm40 what does that happen to be
@@OperationMadeInHeavenit ded
Still waiting for Intel Propane.
vavra222 taste the meat not the heat.
I sell XPoint and XPoint accessories
I sell intel propane and intel propane accessories
I want intel ethane
I'm leaking the Intel Methane.
Ah, 1TB Xpoint RAM...enough to finally handle Chrome.
What, no more external USB1.0 2 TB harddrives for chrome-acceleration needed?
Chrome expands to devour all RAM available.
There can never be enough to satisfy the chrome.
I was going to say that!
It's not enough to run minesweeper on 360p 24fps
Scorpio: it is not about crashing but Chrome eating ungodly amounts of Ram.
Just now i looked at my chrome memory footprint. Oh, only 217 MB - for a single tab.
Even a simple Reddit Text page needs 30 MB. the same page opened with other browsers can be as low as 2 MB.....
Chrome just does it the simple way - "You got memory? give ti to me. i might need it sometimes".
You need to do a follow-up on why they failed.
5 years after this videos release, optane is still superior in many ways even when comparing it to the latest PCIe 4 SSDs.
indeed
Lol 2:22
My name is Barry Allen, and I'm the fastest PC component alive.
Tuna Animations until his fight with zoom.
Tuna Animations I just watched tonight's episode
Tuna Animations w
Tuna Animations Barry Is savitar
I'm just afraid that Barry Allen will screw up the PC industry.
Now Apple will "invent" this
Sukhman Sekhon will cost 4000 quid my dude
introducing world first opt*ene* drive
Sukhman Sekhon wtf
for the low cost of $3.999 for 3gb or $9.999 for 6gb you can now own the apple ifast, plug it to your macpro and experience programs 149 times faster. buy now
Nae...they stopped caring about about their non-iOS products years ago
SSDs are already obsolete?
I'm going back to punch card storage and magnetic loop RAM, this is ridiculous.
No...they won't be obsolete for at least 30 years worst case.
Even hdd aint obsolete yet
Idiot Electronics Iam using rope memory.
Lucky, I'm using stone tablets marked with binary. My eyes can handle tablet data read requests at the blistering speed of 3 bytes per second.
Write performance is considerably slower though, 1 bit per second.
I want angry linus again, best video of the year
Esg876 So I'm not the only one that loved that one
Esg876 which vid was that ?
CWplayer Video on the Red Dragon 8K camera
Sebeki 2 I can't find the video :/
me neither man
"if you don't like the video, PUT IT UP YOUR BUTT" that was the best line so far.
InuYasha86000
I think many skipped the end but yeah, just watched it because of your comment and it's hilarious :-D
5 years later... WD sn770 is faster than the Optane drive and only costs 100 bucks for a terabyte... Man how fast computers change!
It is a really fun hobby/interest for that reason! Would have been really incredible to have been using these things since the 80s like my step dad and seeing what is possible today. I got really into PCs around 2003, and I gotta say even those 20 years have been insane to watch. I remember back in 2004 or so, I learned what RAID was and I set up a RAID 0 array on my PC with two HDDs, and feeling really great about my performance uplift lol...
NVME IS 2Gb/s faster and has permanent storage. DDR5 RAM has bandwidth of 32-64GB/s while optane has 4GB/s. Optane also can't store stuff permanently. This is just like those weird Intel professors arcs they made that turned out to be bad
now I can finally have 1 tab open in Google chrome
Jesus Meza why couldn't I use Ram to accelerate a hard drive it's really not that much more expensive
because it's volatile memory so you can't store anything in there
if the power went out and you didn't save anything, everything in the ram would be erased
Lol!
Michal Litecký I made it to 70 tabs on Firefox on Linux before it started paging lol
@Michal Litecký it was a joke
this aged well
why did he wink at me
Yes
will be great for your black midis tho...
4:06
Hey Linus! Could you do a video about using optane regularly? Like maybe a video about how it feels to use it for a week compared to a typical SSD? That would be awesome!
spoiler alert
Doh I just upgraded my PC with an SSD and I'm already outdated 😶
For fuck sake, reduce the price of SSD. It is still way too expensive.
Shoeb Adnan Please do, I barely make money (due to being a teenager) and I'm looking forward to buying a 240Gb SSD, but it's $80 or more. Come on, for 240Gb? Seriously lower the price, just hopefully Optane will lower SSD prices.
I think Samsung is the main culprit here. If you wanna buy a Sam Evo 500gb, you have to spend around AUD200 to 250!! It's fukin outrageous. They have created a perception in market that ssd is some kind of hightech technology only to justify their price. And other companies are following them as well.
Shoeb Adnan i thought you were talking about the optane one wich costs 2k for 250gb or something
Shoeb Adnan I can get a 1tb hard drive for $69 and 120 gigabytes for $79 at my nearest computer store
dw it will go down. remember the old days when PC were not affordable by regular people. they used to cost millions of dollars.
Your vids always make it easy to understand. Thank you and never change
Before asking my question, I must thank you for that presentation ! It's clear, concise though informative, and dynamic (thanks to you we just can't fall asleep). On another topic, at 6:25 there's an interesting chart comparing Google Chrome and MS Edge...Is there a Benchmark also involving Firefox (and others for that matter)?
Wow, my stock illustration got into the video of my favorite channel.
Can we get like an updated version in 2021 or something. This tech is quite intriguing especially Dimm.2
Update : it gets axed by intel
The way the media all moved in staggered at 1:45 was extensively satisfying
Hi Linus I’ve been seeing a lot of rigs out there for sale with for ex. (250GB SSD with 1TB HDD) and I was wondering could I install optane memory into the M2 slot to increase the HDD performance or will this cause compatibility issues and etc with the SSD? cause Ive heard its not good to mix optane with SSD or theres no point in it cause SSD is just as good as Optane.
It was a poor time for youtube to reccomend me this...
same
algorithm rubbing salt so intel's wound XD
Only Intel could take such a revolutionary technology and make such a boring product with it...
I want 3D-Xpoint Memory in Dimm form to replace both DDR and NAND!
DeputyChuck
Thats exactly what they're gonna do its just getting started. You should see their dev event from 2015- now
Yeah I know...I just... you know... I want it NOW!!!! :P
A product that accelerates mechanical HDs ... only on a platform that typically doesn't have them is not an exciting product.
Is nothing really new is basically crossbar re-ram
ehh..
why do you want your ram replaced ? the technology is still slower than RAM. and well, its volatile nature is also useful in many situations.
optane memory is NOT as fast as ram when it comes to latency; rendering standard memory still relevant. Dont chuck your dimms out yet, optane is just very good at bridging memory and standard hardrive disks for legacy user(which was always its intended purpose due to intel owning it). The teck wont replace standard memory anytime soon since it is proprietary and must compete with the open market.
LMAO @ 7:52 Finally a bare, sincere, genuine all-youtuber finale speech! #linusmeme
As always, great video linus!
RIP
So if I buy this am I purchasing a ram or storage upgrade?
Thanks for the explanation on this. I just purchased a new HP Envy I7 11th gen 2 in 1 laptop with the Intel Optane+ssd included. After looking up prices, it's quite expensive. It's being used for audio and video editing and it's super fast! Thanks again.
So, does it automatically cache information from applications that you commonly use across all of your drives? or do you have to choose to store your cache files there manually (like when installing a game, for example). How much memory do you need with optane?
Blake K It's automatic.
From what information i have gathered, it only store info used on the C: drive, But without testing it myself I don't want to state that as fact. weird bits of information like that are hard to track down. But i could see this being kinda useful if you have your games stored on a large HDD. But then again, if you have a decent sized SSD for the boot, it stores that date on the C: drive.....
From the information I have been reading the Optane cache is in reality a small NVMe drive and the Intel Software 'concatenates' its to the hard disk. Then the software manages which files are actually store on the Optane portion of the drive. So the questions I have are:
1) does optane cache writes as well as reads ... performance I have seen during Windows updates indicates it does not
2) is Intel Optane really faster than NVMe drives like the Crucial P1
3) The overhead of the Intel software has to significant as well
4) Optane Cache can speed up hard disk access on older computer with a mechanical hard drive but if you can not use it on older computers then what is the point?
In the end the only 'advantage' to Intel RST is that one can only run a Microsoft Operating system and the only ones that benefit are Microsoft.
Linus, this video may be a bit dated but you need a 'real world' comparison between Optane Cache and NVMe drives to really "learn all about it".
Did you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off?
He's all right now.
Banana ahhahahaha
Rektaali Reiska intel is right. Amd is left. The video has to do with intel? I tried
And now, nothing's left.
Do you reckon Optane could be used to improve battery life in mobile devices as it's non-volatile?
I wonder if it would use less power over a 24 hour period than LPDDR4...
Its fun looking at the promotional material for something like this. I worked on this stuff back in 2011 when it was still experimental. Its both dramatically more complicated than this, and also simpler.
Tech intel decided to ditch on July2022
Intel Optane is useless right now for consumers. Just buy a SSD...
Dan L Dude, it's meant as a cache for your hard drive. You keep everything on your hard drive, but you get a speed boost.
Dan L lol I have 1 gigabyte of WiFi data I won't be getting cod wwll
yeah because its being marketed to data centers first nub
Deon Spates Intel want to get hold of their users. By using Optane you are bound to use Intel's processor.
thecouchtripper
Linus tested the optane on his other channel. The only thing it did was make a HDD work as fast as an SSD, but barely made any change to the SSD.
By the end of the testing, Linus himself said the same thing: for now, considering the availability of this product, what it changes within your system, and the platform required to run it (only Intel stuff with kabylake, nothing AMD), you're better off buying an SSD instead.
3:57 I did not know that CRAY was still in business, boy, i remember their old SuperCray whole floor super computer with 128 processor cores!
Can you make a video about Xeon Phi and how I could use it for rendering?
RGB Optane FTW 🙋🙌🙋🙋🙌
The TH-cam algorithm is so Effin smart
whats the better option ssd and hdd with intel optane or ssd with a firecude from Seagate?
Cool... Thanks for sharing your experience. I was just curious on if the Optane would be a replacement to the SSD or N.2 formats. You said no.... So thanks for answering my question... Happy techying....
Linus are you still angry?
I want to see someone use NOR flash xD
linus has been giving a lot to charity lately
Better be EXNOR flash since EXNAND/EXAND hasn't discovered.
How about a mixture of all the TTL gates out there?
Im wondering if this will also improve external hdd speeds. I have a 3TB WD external hdd connected via micro b cable to my computer.
Does 3D Xpoint have the P/E cycle limitation as with NAND technology?
Let me see, get optane, and be required to be tethered to Intel, or live with my "slow" 960 EVO and be able to choose Ryzen? Hmmm, thanks Intel, but I will keep my Ryzen R7 1700 and 960 EVO.
After what I can see Intel Optane is actually half speed of most M.2 drives...
when your early but you don't have a joke
Uttiya Dutta your early what?
thecouchtripper I like you and hate you at the same time
#relatable
You need to optane it
@@FREAKBUS Shut up. Get out :)
these quick videos are extremely useful I didn't even know that Intel optane existed
how many times you have promoted optane already?
Everyone is saying intel made optane boring but fail to relize that its JUST THE BEGINNING!
Elijah Nemr
Yeah! Imagine when AMD reverse engineers this, make their own cheaper and usable on any platform (like their Free-sync)! THAT is the future!
They cant its patented by micron and intel. But I meant they will improve it.
TwilightWolf032
Though samsung is working on a similar solution. Dont worry intel will have enough competition.
Elijah Nemr And that's exactly what I want - competition!
TwilightWolf032
Ik
The only problem is 05:27.
the product was designed to push the limits of computing, not be affordable.
The problem here is that you want the fancy tech, when no one is forcing you to buy it.
Just buy the cheaper stuff; your problem solved.
I'd have to disagree with you on that, Intel is selling 16gb versions of this at or around 50USD, and I can see this being a nice cheap way to make newer cheap laptops/All in ones have SSD like performance while still putting a cheap but large HDD inside them. From that perspective, I'd say Intel is positioning this in the consumer market as a cheap solution to make a newer PC "Faster". I think PCper came to the same conclusion as that too in their coverage of the product. I can see it now, 399USD computers with an extra fancy sticker saying "Intel Optane Inside", Demo station setup just to turn on and off and show people how much faster these new computers are. The sheeple will eat that up all day. Going in Mac computers for sure, and the'll say they invented it, then jack the price for a 16gb drive to like 200USD.
*Edit: For celerity, What im talking about are Intel based systems with Z270 or newer Supported Chipsets.*
Naouta Optane doesn't apply to pre-Kaby Lake generation computers and any motherboard that lacks a M.2. This has no retroactive benefit, only for future Intel computers, most likely pre-builts.
I see I didn't make it clear I was talking about newer computers, intel to be more exact. So for clarity, i was referencing that OEM's would be putting these in Z270 or newer chipset computers and laptops. As a cheap way to make them seem like a better buy over a computer with a good SSD in it.
Cash Rules Everything Around Me, C. R. E. A. M., get the money, Dolla Dolla Bill y'all
Tanks for the tip
Can the cache system from optane be full? And if it's full can it reset automatically?
why is Intel making propane to run my grill and cook steaks! what is best Coleman vs Intel please tell me?
Ethan Reinsch AMD. Self heating.
Ironic.
I'm glad i can watch this video in 4k now, thanks to Red
Your videos are really helpful
Oh im early I better post a funny not generic comment to let everyone know!
Ryan Holm the irony of this comment is paradoxical
THE BEST KIND OF DOXICAL!
your comment is well underrated!
Lol I still cant believe it has 71 likes!
Uhh... Orange hands, anyone? :)
IKR? and part of his face too. Smoking with both hands? lol
works intel optane only for one hdd or when i have two 2 tb hdd in one pc this speeds up both?
4:00 lol I see what you did there ;)
just use firefox.....it's way faster
It's sponsorship bait.
He's covered the Optane in at least 2 videos on LTT. I'm surprised it took so long to show up here.
You just described the whole channel.
Thought this all sounded familiar...."Turbocharge your SSD for $40??"
3d- and/or sandwiching/layering techniques are the single one improvement all of future chip technology can benefit from big time... I'm eagerly waiting for the first multi-layer cpu architectures to emerge...
The T-shirt is of Linus Tech tips and I am watching Techquikie. Wrong upload?
Anyways awesome video as usual.
The consumer market for this is virtually non-existent. Any buying those boards and CPUs would hopefully NEVER consider a spindle drive as their OS drive therefore making this product pointless as it ONLY caches the OS drive. Now if it were opened up to any platform they MIGHT get some older systems to benefit but it sounds like their market is corporate cloud servers etc. The benefits to typical home users would be negligible over just an SSD HDD. A spindle drive in a properly configured system is used for storage, not the OS making this product utterly useless for 99.99% of the consumer market meeting their prerequisites. IE waste of money.
how come you couldn't use this for other than your os?
very good point!
Why does Linus tend to touch something by his front right pocket every once in a while? Does anyone else notice that?
Peyton remote for his teleprompter
Ahh, thank you!
Page turner. He is reading of scripts on a screen in front of him.
The clue is in his orange palms...
He’s making sure his weed doesn’t fall out of his pocket
I would like to see a techquickie on what "Que Depth" is. I generally understand what IOPS are, i understand what sequential speeds are, but I don't understand what the difference is between Q1 or Q32, or why your IOPS go up the deeper the que.... or if any of those statements are even accurate. Would be a nice video to see.
Does it work alone or in combination with other SSDs and HDDs.
It learns what you frequently use from your storage and holds the best required data in itself for your CPU to access them more easily due to it being faster than normal storage solution specially Hard Drives. A regular storage is required but it smartly stores the best part of it to reduce latency and increase performance in your most frequent tasks.
In a nutshell, it just makes things smoother.
I lost you at 1/4 of the video
SEE GUYS I TOLD YOU HE WOULDNT SWITCH TO THE S8
James Bailey
You dont know when this was filmed.
James Bailey He probably carries both
go to linus tech tips! he made a video saying he was switching
He did
The specs for pcie 4.0 just got released...im curious to see what they can do with that.
6:41 That hesitation... I think he was going to do their "how to steal dogs" running gag, but decided SquareSpace wouldn't go for it. 🐶
Optane was being created by 2009. Source? Retired intel employee who worked in intel for over 20 years
Doctor Velociraptor damn.
If it was released in 2009 it would actually be successful and mainstream. Now it is quite unnecessary when SSDs are affordable now.
dead and buried
hi Linus i have a question
before updating the windows version 1904 to version 2016 i still can use RST (HDD) but after it has a lot of windows update my RST wont read the HDD so i need to uninstall the RST program.
And recently my Intel RST wants to be updated to "Intel RST optane(but i dont have the hardware "intel optane") so when i update it my laptop doesnt read the HDD, And what if i change my SATA AHCI to SATA Intel RST (but without intal optane hardware) ?.....
thank Linux
This seems compelling for use as extra memory - finally, page files might not be useless!
Ok AMD, it's your turn...
I'm seeing so many optane videos from you guys it starting to make me suspect that you're not very unbiased/independent of the companies you cover (specifically Intel in this case).
He openly says that it's a very small use case and even advocates skipping buying this at all in other videos.
We need a video update on consumer intel after 2019 CES. I am most interested in updates on CPUs, VROC and Optane. I want to build a bootable RAID VROC machine.
does transfer speed from hdd to usb is faster with this optane ?
wow, I knew from my childhood that X is pronounced "cross"...
I actually am an AI scientist :(
Now I am curious there is now X2 M.2 so can you install a M.2 SSD & Optane Memory?
Asrock b365m pro4 has 2 slot m2
what meant with transaction in "cost per transaction"...?
Ahhh... the good ol' milk 5 videos out of one product that doesn't apply to people with SSDs, who happen to make up quite a bit of the target audience...
KofPrussia yep specially since it won't work on the pentium kabylake chips just i3 kaby and up so most people in those budgets most likely have a small SSD boot. kinda sad optane only works for boot drives
@@Demon09-_- I have a 350 dollar laptop with i3 7th Gen it came with a hdd and plenty of room for RAM and one m.2 slot. Optane looks pretty good now that it has higher Gbs
@@Inertia888 just make sure that m.2 slot is an nvme one as optane needs nvme to work. and its not amazing it is just an ssd cache so things that are used alot will get cached but some people will be better served by just an ssd. optane is very fast but its only fast if what you use is on it when you click to open it. its not horrible now that you can speed up secondary large drives as I currently have my 5tb secondary combined with a optane module
@@Demon09-_- i am trying to decide optane or samsung 970
Can you imagine how much money and time you would've saved by being into books and sports lol
Patrick lol ok
Patrick lol ok
Read "The Slight Edge" by Jeff Olson.
seems like this in combination with pcie 4.0 would give systems another big boost, considering this as an m.2 x4 drive
Should do an updated vid on this
Wow another Optane video from LMG, I count 3 in less than 2 months.... Seems like intel has their hands firmly in LMG pockets.
Drider dude just fuck off. Intel made cool shit. If any other co. Did it they would do the same.
Can you speak english please?
Where can I download this Optane that you speak of?
Linus, I swear your hands are STILL golden from that thermal paste video
Im Fat
BigFat im fat32
comon.. you're Not That Fat Seriously...
This guy really annoys me.
How does it differ in functionality from ECC memory?
pls make a vid explaining what a hell is queue depth and iops